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Jaguars Happy Hour | Recapping Jags' Dominant Performance vs. Browns · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's Victory Monday, September 14th. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans. And now,
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  Speaker 1: a gal with callous disregard for the microphone from.
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  Speaker 2: Sticky Wing Fingers.
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  Speaker 3: Kainani Stevens.
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  Speaker 4: Saucy wings are delicious, but when we have to do things,
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  Speaker 4: it's a little difficult to eat. So I hope you
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  Speaker 4: all were at home and were able to have wings
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  Speaker 4: and watch that beautiful Jaguars victory. And I know I
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I got my wings after the game. That
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  Speaker 4: was clutch. I'm Kainani Stevens, and for Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans. And of course, coming up today,
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  Speaker 4: we have a ton to talk about from the Hyundai
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  Speaker 4: studios because the Jaguars got to win our first victory
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  Speaker 4: Monday of the 2026 season. And they did so in
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  Speaker 4: decisive fashion. Smooth operator Trevor Lawrence looked absolutely smooth as
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  Speaker 4: butter yesterday. Got four touchdowns. completely dominated and just looked
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  Speaker 4: so comfortable so you'll certainly talk about that we'll keep
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  Speaker 4: it real all about what we saw in that game
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  Speaker 4: and we'll answer your fan questions a little bit later
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  Speaker 4: on so i want to welcome in cbs sports senior
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  Speaker 4: writer pete frisco and former jaguars offensive end austin lane
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  Speaker 4: and happy victory monday boys happy.
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  Speaker 3: Talk Happy Victory Monday, the first lock of the season,
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  Speaker 3: and we all got it right.
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  Speaker 4: And we got the triple lock is now not an
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  Speaker 4: issue anymore because this was the correct game to use
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  Speaker 4: to fix it.
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  Speaker 5: The other guy was the other guy was the most correct.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here now. Triple locks are now allowed. But that
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  Speaker 4: was fun to watch, especially because we haven't seen the
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  Speaker 4: starters in so long. It's been since the Buffalo game
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  Speaker 4: that we've seen them play. So it felt like finally.
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  Speaker 4: All right. This team worried at all about a slow start.
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  Speaker 4: No problem.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, again, you're playing against a team that's not
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  Speaker 6: very good. So you're at home on opening day. If
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  Speaker 6: this had been a game in the middle of the season,
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  Speaker 6: I might have think they'd look past them and look
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  Speaker 6: to Denver, but that didn't happen. And because it was
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  Speaker 6: on opening day and they did what they had to do.
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  Speaker 6: You put that game away and then you, you know,
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  Speaker 6: sit down guys that need to sit down and move
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  Speaker 6: on to next week. So it was a dominant performance
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  Speaker 6: against a bad football team, but a dominant performance.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yes, it was against a bad football team.
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  Speaker 3: But week one, I think it kind of shows you
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  Speaker 3: you can't take anybody lightly.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, if you told me the Chargers get
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  Speaker 3: beat by the Cardinals, I would say you're crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But lo and behold, that happens.
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  Speaker 3: And this is what I think good to great teams
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  Speaker 3: can do. They win the games they're supposed to win,
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  Speaker 3: and they win it in decisive fashion. And my biggest
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  Speaker 3: question mark going against the Browns was, okay, you didn't
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  Speaker 3: really play any of your starters in the preseason and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to come out flat, right? It will
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  Speaker 2: take some time to acclimate and everything.
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  Speaker 3: They hit the ground running, you know, the Foyer-Luke and interception,
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  Speaker 3: and it was pitting their ears back after that. So,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess going forward, if Liam Cohen wants
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  Speaker 3: to rest these guys for the entire preseason, cancel joint practices,
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  Speaker 3: give them four weeks rest, I mean, this team came
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  Speaker 3: ready to play against the Browns. I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: a great showing overall.
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  Speaker 6: You had to admit, though, the first couple plays, you're
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  Speaker 6: sitting there going, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland's going down.
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  Speaker 4: The field right away. I did think. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's, you know, a new team, new coordinators, new coaches, right?
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  Speaker 4: So you don't entirely know what you're going to see
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  Speaker 4: out of the Browns. So I was like, maybe that
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  Speaker 4: first script will get them a little bit. But then
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh. Ventero Miller doing a cartwheel and
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  Speaker 4: then Foye getting the pick. So I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: we're fine. We're back where we were last time, getting
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  Speaker 4: turnovers and getting after the quarterback. I was impressed with
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  Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker. Pete, I know you were. The defense really disruptive.
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  Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson is what he is, but they were in
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  Speaker 4: the backfield all day.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and again, it's an offensive line that was starting
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  Speaker 6: five new guys. And so two.
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  Speaker 5: Of them were rookies.
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  Speaker 6: One of them was a backup who wasn't supposed to play,
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  Speaker 6: who played really well, by the way. Barber, the guard,
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  Speaker 6: he played guard. He's a tackle at Florida, but he
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  Speaker 6: played guard. He did a nice job. But it's five
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  Speaker 6: new guys. This defensive line took advantage of that. And
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  Speaker 6: this is a great play by Trayvon Walker. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: if you watch this play, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: we have the end zone copy or whatever of it,
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  Speaker 6: but he gets chopped.
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  Speaker 5: And gets up. and chases down Watson. A, it tells
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  Speaker 5: you about his effort. B, it tells you about his
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  Speaker 5: ability to run. And C, it tells you he'll take
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  Speaker 5: a cheap sack any way he can get it. Because
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  Speaker 5: that was a sack. He had a lot of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 5: But I thought he was outstanding all day.
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  Speaker 6: And I thought he rushed well from the interior, which
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  Speaker 6: is something they've talked about for a long time. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: I think he's, I said it last week on the show.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's in for a monster year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pete, you call it.
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  Speaker 3: And if we see that play one more time, cause
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  Speaker 3: I want to point something out here. Not only does
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  Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker do his job, but then he also does
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  Speaker 3: the safety's job as well because Cisco, um, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's Cisco behind him, right?
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 4: It's AJ.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, AJ.
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  Speaker 2: My bad.
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  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad.
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  Speaker 3: Cisco. Antonio Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: We just went back in time for a second.
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  Speaker 5: Cisco was there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cisco.
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  Speaker 5: I see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. My bad. Antonio Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: But he essentially does Antonio Johnson's job as well because
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  Speaker 3: not only does he get underneath the puller, but then
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  Speaker 3: he's an athlete enough where he gets around the puller
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  Speaker 3: takes antonio jobs uh johnson's gap and essentially makes that
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  Speaker 3: play so not only did he do the defensive end
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  Speaker 3: job of crashing down and getting underneath the puller or
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  Speaker 3: the the you know the the guy that's coming through
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  Speaker 3: but he also got to the outside and took care
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  Speaker 3: of antonio johnson's job as well i thought that was
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  Speaker 3: a great job by trey.
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  Speaker 6: They did a nice job covering for cisco yeah great
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  Speaker 6: job covering for cisco.
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  Speaker 4: There's always someone i don't know where's.
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  Speaker 2: Cisco at he's a new york jet okay there it
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  Speaker 2: is man yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This and tackles for the new york jets not.
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  Speaker 4: Our problem uh offensively, Trevor, 18 to 23, 245 yards,
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  Speaker 4: didn't play in the fourth, four touchdowns. Pete, he looked
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  Speaker 4: about as confident, cool, collected as we've seen him.
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  Speaker 6: And when he gets back into the pocket and he
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  Speaker 6: lets that go, he wasn't taking little baby shots either.
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  Speaker 5: He's taking them down the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 6: He's hitting some big ones. And I think he just
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  Speaker 6: has a read on this offense now. A year ago,
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  Speaker 6: he was learning it. And he struggled early in the season.
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  Speaker 6: And he I'll go to the touchdown to Strange. The
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  Speaker 6: touchdown to Strange tells you how different Trevor Lawrence is.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we're all wowed by the throw to Cameron.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that throw was amazing.
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  Speaker 5: But the touchdown to Strange, right, right, back to the middle, boom.
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  Speaker 5: It's his third read. And he stood in there, and
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  Speaker 5: a year.
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  Speaker 6: Ago, he might have taken off after the first read
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  Speaker 6: isn't there, or he might have checked it down. Now,
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  Speaker 6: he's so confident in the way the offense plays that...
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  Speaker 6: and the way it's being run, that he comes back
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  Speaker 6: to his tight end on the third read. And I
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  Speaker 6: thought that play right there kind of exemplifies where he is.
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  Speaker 5: As a quarterback. Right, right, right, boom, back.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you could see that on the TV version
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  Speaker 6: of it. So I was impressed with how he played.
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  Speaker 6: This is who we're going to get from Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 6: this year. He knows he's arrived.
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  Speaker 5: You could just tell it the way he's been all
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  Speaker 5: summer and all offseason. He knows this is his offense
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  Speaker 5: and this is his team.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and this is where the personnel groupings come into
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  Speaker 3: play as well, because on that play, Travis Hunter was
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  Speaker 3: looking for the ball, right? So if I'm the Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: Browns and if I'm calling defense, I see Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 3: on the field.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't play that much on offense right now. The
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  Speaker 2: ball is probably going to him.
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  Speaker 3: And if you saw the guy that was supposed to
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  Speaker 3: take strange in that zone coverage, he actually cheats down
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  Speaker 3: to try to help out and take Travis Hunter because
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  Speaker 3: everyone thinks the ball is going to Travis Hunter. Lo
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  Speaker 3: and behold, Brenton Strange has got a new contract for
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  Speaker 3: a reason as well. Makes the easy catch, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's an easy play for the Jags touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: Spreading the wealth around.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I can't figure out, though, on that, Austin?
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  Speaker 5: I think they were faking.
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  Speaker 6: The bubble screen to Travis Hunter to try and throw
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  Speaker 6: over the top, and they kind of came off of him.
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  Speaker 6: You know how they fake the little bubble screen and
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  Speaker 6: try and hit the shot over the top? Well, they
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  Speaker 6: couldn't hit that, so then he comes back to the
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  Speaker 6: middle to Strange. I think if you look at it again,
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  Speaker 6: Travis thinks he's getting it on that screen right over
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  Speaker 6: there on the right-hand side, and then I think they're
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  Speaker 6: really faking it.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to throw the wheel, see?
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  Speaker 3: No, for sure, because it does make it seem like
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  Speaker 3: this is the third option right now to Brenton Strange. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was that corner out in the end
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  Speaker 3: zone where up on top that they were trying to
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  Speaker 3: go for.
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  Speaker 2: The Jacoby. The Jacoby, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But then, obviously, Strange appears open. And this is a
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  Speaker 3: classic example, too, of Liam Cohen setting this all up, right?
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  Speaker 3: Because he ran that jet bubble before, right? So you're
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  Speaker 3: showing the look once again, and now you're showing a
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  Speaker 3: different wrinkle towards that. Same thing happened on the very
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  Speaker 3: first touchdown of the game as well, where they ran
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  Speaker 3: with Chris Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like they're going to run with Chris Rodriguez again.
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  Speaker 2: The play action, touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: It just feels like we've talked to Cohen in the preseason. He's,
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  Speaker 4: he's feels like he has the players that he needs
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  Speaker 4: to run what he wants to run now, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: Borkature playing, you know, a ton of snaps in this
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  Speaker 4: game where when they're running a little bit bigger or
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  Speaker 4: what they have in the running back room now that
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  Speaker 4: they're pleased with, it feels like he, all of the
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  Speaker 4: bags of tricks is open. Like he can touch anything
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  Speaker 4: he wants to, and that's allowing him to be creative.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, you kind of really, it's, you see
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  Speaker 2: what the power of the run game can do.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, and, give pete some credit man he's being a
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  Speaker 3: he's been a big guy tooting you know uh supporter
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  Speaker 3: uh he's been propping him up and everything and tooting
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  Speaker 3: got the majority of the reps and and i'll say
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  Speaker 3: this much like didn't really have that that breakout long
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  Speaker 3: run that we're looking for with his speed but a
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  Speaker 3: surprising thing that i saw from tooting that really helped
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  Speaker 3: this offense out even when he got hit like at
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage or a couple yards after he
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  Speaker 3: fell forward every single time and i play with one
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  Speaker 3: of the best guys to ever do that maurice jones
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  Speaker 3: drew And that makes all the difference in the world.
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  Speaker 3: If you can get hit behind the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 3: you just get hit at the one or two yards
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  Speaker 3: into the play, and you can fall forward and get
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  Speaker 3: an extra two or three, that makes all the difference
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  Speaker 3: in the world for Liam Cohen and that offense. So
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  Speaker 3: instead of going to a second and nine or second
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  Speaker 3: and eight, now you're talking second and five, second and four,
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  Speaker 3: opens the entire playbook up.
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  Speaker 5: And you could.
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  Speaker 6: Tell by Liam Cohen's comments after the game that that
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  Speaker 6: caught his attention. the fact that he was falling forward
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  Speaker 6: and taking shots and making.
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  Speaker 5: Plays out of it.
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  Speaker 6: And I thought the little screen pass that he had,
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  Speaker 6: 22 yards on that play, that was.
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  Speaker 2: A really good play by him because it wasn't blocked
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  Speaker 2: very well.
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  Speaker 5: He just got out there and made a play.
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  Speaker 6: So that speed is going to be a problem for
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  Speaker 6: defenses coming forward and I do think he needs to
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  Speaker 6: get more carries I really do.
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  Speaker 4: Did you feel, Pete? I mean, I guess this is
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  Speaker 4: one of those games where it kind of got out
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  Speaker 4: of hand quickly, so you don't maybe see the amount
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  Speaker 4: of carries you'll end up seeing going forward in the
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  Speaker 4: season because it was kind of in hand. But did
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  Speaker 4: you feel like Tootin got enough of it earlier, or
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  Speaker 4: would you like to see them run it a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more?
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  Speaker 5: He's got to get more. And look, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: Rodriguez is a plotter. He'll get you the tough yards.
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  Speaker 6: When they had to get the short yardage in this,
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  Speaker 6: in the wildcat, he was the one that took the snap.
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  Speaker 6: So clearly that's the role they have for him. But
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  Speaker 6: if you want big plays in the run game, those
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  Speaker 6: are coming from tootin. And I think he, he showed that,
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  Speaker 6: like you said, he can, he can grind too. That
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  Speaker 6: was the unknown with him. Could he handle it when
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  Speaker 6: he's getting hit? Will he break tackles and will he
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  Speaker 6: lean forward? And I think we saw that from him.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the first step. What do you have? 66 yards.
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  Speaker 5: Is that what it was? Let's see.
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  Speaker 4: He had 66 yards on 15 attempts. Some of those
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  Speaker 4: are the garbage time ones, because I don't think they
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  Speaker 4: threw it once Nick Mullen came in.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think now that the attempts go up
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  Speaker 6: a little bit, I think the yardage will go up.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's going to get a couple of big plays.
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  Speaker 5: And when you get a couple of big plays, then
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  Speaker 5: your yardage numbers go up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it was a great idea to
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  Speaker 3: kind of keep him in the game throughout even like
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  Speaker 3: the third and fourth quarter simply because we haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: enough of him. Like, you know what Chris Rodriguez is
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  Speaker 3: bringing to the table, right? He's going to lower his shoulders,
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  Speaker 3: deliver punishment, get you four or five yards. But with Tootin,
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  Speaker 3: you know, going into his second year, like you still
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  Speaker 3: want to see more of what he's capable of, get
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  Speaker 3: him his rep. So I did like how it was
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  Speaker 3: kind of split up in the first half between Rodriguez
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  Speaker 3: and then Tootin in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: It was mainly the Tootin show.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, when they got it out of– they had
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  Speaker 4: it comfy. They were like, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how refreshing is it to be Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 3: week one not knowing what exactly you have? You can
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  Speaker 3: kind of treat the Cleveland Browns game like you're like
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  Speaker 3: a little league coach.
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  Speaker 4: It was like a preseason game.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a tester.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's interesting about that, though?
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  Speaker 6: We did think that their defense might be competitive and feisty,
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  Speaker 6: so they weren't.
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  Speaker 5: They were not at all.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's just because James Schwartz isn't there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think James Schwartz. Yeah, because it was– Vers had, like,
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  Speaker 4: nothing on the stat sheet, like– You didn't feel it
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 6: He got blocked, and Schlesinger had a terrible game, and
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  Speaker 6: he was the defensive rookie of the year last year.
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  Speaker 5: They did not play very well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very uninspired, for sure. I was a little surprised
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  Speaker 4: by that, that they didn't have a little more push
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  Speaker 4: from the defense. Parker, Washington, Washington, how about that?
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 4: How about that? A little catch in the statement. Well,
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  Speaker 4: first touchdown of the game. I've seen him do that
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  Speaker 4: at training camp a couple of times. He does a
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  Speaker 4: little barrel roll after he grabs it. And so it's
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  Speaker 4: not surprising. He's certainly capable of, and that's why Trevor
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  Speaker 4: put it right there. But, uh, every day, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: that cha-ching, cha-ching.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a great catch. Cause it wasn't a
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  Speaker 5: great row.
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  Speaker 4: It's not.
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  Speaker 5: You got your receivers open like that.
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  Speaker 6: You got to, you know, you don't want to make
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  Speaker 6: them lay out to make a catch like that, but
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  Speaker 6: a fantastic catch by him. And then, uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: everybody says it's the price going up every time he plays.
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  Speaker 6: And look, that deal is going to get done. If
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  Speaker 6: his camp is smart, they get done. If the Jaguars
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  Speaker 6: are smart, they get it done. They can tag him
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  Speaker 6: next year. That's in their arsenal. And so I think
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  Speaker 6: you've got to look at it from that standpoint, from
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  Speaker 6: his people. And I think they're really close, and I
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: think they will get it done. But right now, every
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: time he makes big plays... he could sit there and say, Hey,
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: you know what?
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: Look at me. I need more. But again, what's the number?
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: Where do you want to go to with him?
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: Do you, you know, we talked about Michael Wilson and
• 13:40
  Speaker 6: we talked about Christian Watson and those are 25 ish.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: But as he and Zay flowers in his mind, is
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: that where he is?
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: He's not. No, he's not.
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: In fact, Christian Watson had a two touchdown game and
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: was running wild yesterday for the Packers. So, Look, he's
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: in that group with those guys, so where do you
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: go to? And I said this all along, too. The
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: risk is with all the people around him, there are
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: going to be games maybe where he doesn't get those
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: numbers that he's going to get.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: And what was his numbers yesterday? Because he had a
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: big first half.
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: Five receptions, 83 yards, and the 30-yard touchdown.
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: Okay, so if he has five receptions every game, that
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: gives you 75, right?
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: Isn't that right?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Or is that, no, 517.
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: 60 times 12. Math live on air.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: Let's just prove that I know not what's happening. It's
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: 5 times 35 plus the 10.
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: So it's 85.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: So if you get 85 and the yardage will be
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: 1,300 or so. Is that is that Pete Megan?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: If he's getting touchdowns, it absolutely is.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're doing it by choice.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: He's not going to have 17 touchdowns.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: He's not probably not. But I think that that first half, obviously,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: when the game was a little more competitive, it showed
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Trevor's first look.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: It felt like it was going to Parker Washington.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: And and I told John Osher this like. I got
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: so much scar tissue from that catch by Parker Washington
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: for touchdown. It was a great catch. It was a
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: great throw. Trevor's getting pressured a little bit. He gets
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the ball out. Parker Washington makes a great catch. That
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: feels like last year where that ball's just a little
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: to the right. The wide receiver drops it, and then
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden the next play is going to
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: be a false start, and it's going to snowball, and
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's going to be a competitive
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: game against the Browns.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: That's the old Jags.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: That's the old Jags.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: This new Jags, you have a great throw by Trevor Lawrence,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: even a better catch by Parker Washington, and after that
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: catch and after that celebration and everything... It was over.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: What did you say he had? It was 87?
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Five catches, 83 yards. 83.
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: So if you multiply that out, it's 85 catches, right?
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: That's darn good if he has 85 catches on a
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: roster where there's that many people who can catch the football.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: And then you multiply. He had 83 times 17.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: That'll get you to 1,400. And then say he has
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: half the number of touchdowns. You're not going to catch
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: everyone every game. So say he has 10. So if
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: you have 85, 1,410. That'll do it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Welcome to 30 million, huh?
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: We're not the money people. We're not the math people.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: We just like to talk football around here. And a
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: lot to talk about today after a really good Jaguars win.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll hone in on what the
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: defense was able to get done. This is Jaguars Happy
• 16:30
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• 16:35
  Speaker 7: And that was an absolute dot through four defenders to
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: trust Josh in that moment. He had Josh and Jacoby
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: were kind of the either-or there. We scored on that
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: exact play in the joint practice against Carolina, and.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: He threw it to Jacoby.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: And the safety happened to be kind of leaning that way.
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: Jacoby didn't have great leverage on the play, and I
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: thought he did a really nice job coming off the
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: action with his eyes and then just making the decision
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: right now, no hesitation, put that ball in only one
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: spot that we could make the play, and then Josh
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: obviously being strong hands, protecting himself away from the safety
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: on the throw. That was high-level football. I mean, that's
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: an NFL– you know, open touchdown.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going to apologize. The fact we made it through
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: that whole first segment without showing that, which is what
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: my favorite play of the day yesterday was an absolute dot.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is correct. I've been talking about this nonstop
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: because every angle is crazier and crazier. There's four people
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: he threw that through, put it in the only place
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: he could put it. I can't imagine Josh Cameron could
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: even see it when he put his hands up. And
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: kudos to him. The catch is great as well to
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: be able to take that down and keep it when
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: you had someone coming in at your head as well. So, Austin,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that throw and catch.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And I was sitting in the 100 section of that
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: end zone. And when that ball was released, I'm like, what?
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were prepared to almost be mad.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh! Here goes a.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Deflection or something. Hopefully it doesn't get tipped up for
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: an interception. But yeah, definitely threaded the needle. And give
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: all the credit to, number one, great play call, but
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: also Josh Cameron in selling that. Because he actually sells
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the run, right? Like, you have a rookie out there.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: If I'm a cornerback, I'm thinking, OK, well, Rodriguez is in.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Probably going to be another run play. That play action,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Josh Cameron sells the run brilliantly and then releases on
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the inside, and a perfect throw by Trevor gets the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: job done.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: What I liked about it, once he turned his head
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: after the play fake, he looked in the middle, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: he kind of held that safety.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that safety that sheeted over to Jacoby, which is
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: where the original, I think, play is.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and by holding that safety, he gave him that. Look,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: right back, he came back over there and just hit
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: that shot. That was one of the best throws all
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: day around the league.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: That's chef's kiss. Just perfect. I, I think that's the
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: epitome of Trevor feeling comfortable and just owning that moment to,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: to the nth degree. Just like I'm going to, I can,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: he's always had the ability to make those throws, right?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: We've seen him do amazing things. Then he'll do something
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: that you're like, what are you thinking? And it worked out.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: So I'm not saying, what are you thinking? I'm saying, wow,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: that was amazing. And that was, that's a quarterback throw
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: an NFL throw, like Liam Cohen was saying.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: And let's say, can we play that one more time?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Because he's really shortened up his motion.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Has he?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I think if, yeah, he was, if you go back
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: to this, look, boom.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: He was much longer wind up a year ago than
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: what we're seeing now. And I think he's done a
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: great job of working to marry his feet to the
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: release of that ball.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: And there it is. Once it's up, boom.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Compact.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's much more, it's smoother. It's much more compacted.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: And it just looks like he's done a lot of
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: work Oh.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: On that motion. Remember, he had a long windup. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: when you have a long windup, long strider, long windup,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: what does that do?
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: That gives defenses a tell. And I think this version
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: doesn't give you quite the tell. They have tells still,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: but this one doesn't give you as much of a tell.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Pete, let me ask you this about Josh Cameron, because
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to me, that wide receiver group, he just looks different.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Like this is a big looking guy, obviously showcased his
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: hands right there. Do you get the sense that– and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to compare him because he's got a
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: long ways to go to get to this level. But, like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: could he be like a Puka Nakua is to the Rams?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Just in terms of that big-bodied receiver, get him on
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: slants and everything, get the ball in his hands, lower
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: his shoulder, and be hard to tackle. Like, that's the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: way I can– like, that to me right there is
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: a Puka Nakua.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Puka runs such great routes.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: And we don't know if Cameron does. But again, Puka
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: runs such great routes.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: But just the size and stature.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: But you're right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: He's different than everybody else. He's a big body receiver.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: And he gives them big targets. And the other guys don't.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: And I think that's the biggest difference with him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: And again... You know, we talked about the receiver room
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: last week. We didn't include him much, did we?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Nope. Another mouth to feed.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Now you got catches. Now you got catches. Touchdown catches
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: going to somebody else. So now you got, well, what
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: about me?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's coming.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: They did a pretty good job. Nine different people. Trevor
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: completed a pass to in that game. So he spread
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the wealth all the way around because.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I was thinking of you. What if Jacoby doesn't catch
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: the touchdown?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I was thinking of
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: you saying that, and I was like, oh, they haven't
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: really got Jacoby anything because I think one just kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of went awry. He didn't get the catch, and then
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it was a touchdown, so it's fine.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: That was the only one he had, right, was the
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: touchdown catch.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: There was another target he didn't come down with, right?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: He had a jet sweep.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: He had the jet sweep on third down. It was
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: third down or fourth down.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: They didn't go for it on fourth, did they?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think he had the jet sweep on
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: third down.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Well, they went for it on fourth down with Rod.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: No, that was third down with Rod. That was third down.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I think he had a jet sweep.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: The jet sweep, you know how much I love that play.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure. Wildcat was in there, too.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: One of my favorites.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Pete, I mean, do you think that Liam Cole is
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: listening to you because 14 points up, fourth and one, and.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Opted to kick a field goal? Take the points.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Kick the field goal.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think they're listening to you?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Because to me, that's uncharacteristic of Liam Cole and at
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: home up 14.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: He heard you, Pete.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what? I get in all their heads.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: That's my job. I tell you what, he called a
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: great game. He really did.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: And he put his quarterback into a rhythm. He is
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: brilliant when it comes to offensive football. I really believe that. And,
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: and I think Trevor now believes in all of it
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: and understands all of it. It is the most, again,
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: having spent time talking to Liam Cohen in the spring
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: for that story I worked on, it is so complicated
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: what these defenses do and young quarterbacks heads spin. And,
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: but he, Trevor's head was spinning a year ago. It
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: ain't spinning anymore. The only spinning it's doing is when
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: he goes from one, two, three. That's the spinning it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: doing now. It's not a nasty spin. So I think
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: Liam Cohn knows he has himself a quarterback that can
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: run his offense, and he's going to play with a
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: lot of toys, and he's got a lot of toys.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: In fact, next week at Denver, you might see more
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: tight ends.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: For all we know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: We don't know what he's going to do.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: And it almost seems like a paradigm shift, too, because
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: last year, like, yes, Trevor had a great year MVP candidate,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: but it almost seemed like it was the Liam Cohen
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: story last year, right? Like, wow, this guy came in,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: turned around this offense, won 13 games, right? Like, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: feel like he was getting all the headlines. And it
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: seems like it's been a pretty quiet offseason in terms
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: of Trevor Lawrence. Like, we weren't breaking down every single
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: practice of training camp just because we expect so much
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: more of him now. And it seems like this season
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: is going to be the Trevor Lawrence season. And, like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen almost takes a step back, which I think
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: is what you want as a team.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. And it's because the back half of the season,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: he was comfortable in knowing what the play calls were
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: and knowing that he's in control of the situation. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: feel like so many years before it was Trevor going
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: up to the line of scrimmage, repeating what was said
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to him and just running that play. And there's so
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: much more put on his shoulders. And he's risen to
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the challenge. Credit to Trevor. He's really risen with what
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the responsibility has been given to him. And he's taken
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: a charge of that. And it's showing right now.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: You know what else we didn't see? We didn't see
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: looking around for a play call, rushing to the line
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage and having the play clock going down. We
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: didn't see that, did we?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: No, he was ready, calling the plays.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: That tells you that he understands. Yeah, he gets the
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: play call, calls it, comes to the line. Has kill,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: by the way. He has kill potential there. He has
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: two plays at the line of scrimmage.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: And he just looked like he was in a real
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: rhythm and a groove. And he knew where he was
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: going with the football. That's what you want from your quarterback.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, look... again it's cleveland we got to slow
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: the roll a little bit we'll know a lot more.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: About this team next week you go on the road
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: remember last week last year they went on the road
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: they beat the daylights out of that team and that
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: team we'll know more about them next week when they
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: go to denver and it's it's the marquee game on
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: cbs on sunday so.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah so hopefully everybody gets to see it um Fans,
• 25:06
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• 25:08
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• 25:17
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• 25:19
  Speaker 4: it out. When we return, we're going to preview a
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: little bit of that Broncos matchup and also talk about
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: what the defense was able to do yesterday because I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: think we definitely got to give them their props as well.
• 25:30
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• 25:51
  Speaker 7: At that point, I felt like points were necessary. You
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: want to just continue to score points and, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: would I have loved to, part of me wanted to
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: go for it?
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: But I felt.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: Confident making the decision. I know the offense wanted to
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: stay on the grass, which I appreciate. But I think
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: early in the year, just, man, let's go get some points.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: We're up 14-0. Let's get Cam involved. Let's get him
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: going a little bit. And the way the defense was playing,
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: I felt confident we'd get some more ops to be
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: able to score some more touchdowns.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen not going for it on fourth down, you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: maturing a little bit, listening to Pete Prisco and John Ogier,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you know, not taking every risk just because he can.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Taking the points sometimes.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: By the way, guys, why give him any chance to
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: get momentum in that scenario?
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: And there we are. Take the points sometimes. Keep it rolling.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: The defense was doing great. The offense was doing great.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: There was no concern going forward. It's not like you're
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: trying to prove something to anybody. In that situation, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: fully agree.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Can we stop saying on the grass, too? Because doesn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: the sideline have some grass on there, too?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Turf on the sideline, technically. If we're going to be technical,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it's turf on the sideline in Jacksonville.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: There's no grass over there? There's no grass at all?
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: There has to be some grass there. No, it gets
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: all scorched.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: They only do the grass where they actually play, at
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: least for right now. We don't know what it'll look
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: like soon.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: But on the grass has become the buzz phrase in
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: the National Football League.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: When toe meets leather and they're on the grass.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony has started saying that, and he says it,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: and now around the league, people are saying it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Austin, nobody ever said that when you played.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I've never heard it until these past couple years, I
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: feel like.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on the grass.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's like in basketball, it's like on the court,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: so maybe it's like they're just kind of transferring it over.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You know, field, I think would suffice.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: On the field.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: On the field, out on the field, out on the field.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: We're on the practice fields, not on the grass. We're
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: on the practice fields. And I told Basile, I go, Tony,
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: you never said that. You know, I used to say,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: you never said it. I covered you for years. You
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: didn't say it on this show ever. He never said it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: We've got a tiny verbiage around here. We hear a
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff. So on the grass.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: And by the way, the other thing all coaches do.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: What you got?
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: They say, right. They say, right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: When you, so if I'm talking to a coach, he's right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: You're listening to me, right? So we went out there
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: and we played the game, right? It's like they all
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: do it. I watch college interviews. I watch pro interviews.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: They all do it now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Trying to keep you engaged. Right?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Making sure you're on the same page, right?
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Or that I feel confident in what they're saying. See,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: I always think that when people say right, they're not
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: confident in what they're saying.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Sure. See, I'm confident when I say it. I wouldn't
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: say that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Andre Sisco, right?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Do you say it?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: You don't say it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: No, no, no. I've never heard you guys say it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I'd probably say some other things,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: but I don't say right after I say it. Let's
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: talk a bit about our player of the game from
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Publix as well, where shopping is a pleasure. It has
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: to be Trevor Lawrence, of course, but we saw some
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: good defensive efforts there. We're going to talk about Trevor
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: all day, so I'll move back to the defense a
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: little bit because I do want to touch on this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker, you could argue. Ventrell Miller was one of
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: the best players out there because talk about that. We
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: were concerned about the linebacker room, and Ventrell was very
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: much proving the point. And also, I'll give some credit
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: to Coach Camp for coaching him up. He looked great,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: and it didn't feel like he had not been out
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: there before. It felt very comfortable. Foye-Lewikin, obviously, the same
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: as he's always been, which is excellent. But Ventral Miller
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: really surprised me with how well he played and was
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: not making mistakes. He understood his assigned role very well.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Not that he didn't before, but it's just different kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: of playing time for him, obviously, with Devin Lloyd out
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: there most of the time. So I was very impressed.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're an off-the-ball linebacker for the
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars, and you're going in a contract year, you
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: got a contract coming up.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: This is your year, though.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and call your agent and say, hey. Back
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: up the brink struck because Coach Kemp's going to put
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: me in position to make plays. And you saw it
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: with Ventro Miller, right? I mean, we never questioned his physicality.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: What I was skeptical about is how can he blitz?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: How can he drop back into coverage, cover those tight
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: ends and those running backs? And once again, I get it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: It's the Cleveland Browns and everything. It's week one. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: pass with flying colors as far as I'm concerned because
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: this interception right here, it doesn't happen anywhere. if Ventro
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Miller doesn't get home, cause some chaos, and also does
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a great job of disguising the blitz where they had
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: no idea he was coming to the very last second.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Center couldn't see him coming. Sean Watson didn't check out
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: of it. It was a great call. It was a
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: great blitz ran by Ventro Miller and a great play
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: by Boya.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Luke in here.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Got chipped in a cartwheel.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because it's a point I made.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: And by the way, I wasn't one of those guys
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: that was concerned about the linebacker position.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Because I didn't think they lost much in Devin Lloyd.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: I didn't. I mean, he made a lot of splash
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: plays last year, but he was hard to line up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: He didn't line up well. And I didn't think he
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: was that good as a linebacker. I thought he was okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: But he didn't do much yesterday in Carolina.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: They got run over for 270 yards. And he made
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: a lot of tackles, but he didn't play very well. HN, ETN,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: whatever you want to call him, didn't do a lot
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: in New Orleans.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: And so all offseason, the whole perception around the Jaguars
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: was they suffered two major hits.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: They lost guys. No, they didn't. And that's all I
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: ever said. I said, I didn't think they lost anybody.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: And I still don't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And what Ventrell Miller did yesterday and what Tootin did yesterday...
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: kind of backs that up that they really didn't.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: And okay. It's only one game and it's against the Browns,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: but that's a good start.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: So I thought he was as, he was as good
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: as ever, anybody on the defense yesterday.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: And I loved her.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: I thought Trayvon Walker was fantastic, but I thought he
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: was as good as, as anybody on that defense.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the entire defense in general was,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: was great. And I'm going to say this much. If
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you got Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines, Alan right next
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: to each other and those third and longs pass rushing
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: and best of luck to you if you're a quarterback.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe make some business decisions and go down because that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: going to be like that duo right there next to
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: each other. You see it right here. That's going to
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: be an issue. And this is the beautiful thing about
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it too, Pete. I don't think we even saw close
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: to the full arsenal of this defense. Like I think
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: they got up a little bit. They started running a
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: little more meat and potatoes of this philosophy and this
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: scheme and everything. But I think they still have a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: lot of things left in that playbook that they can
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: kind of unveil as the season progresses.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I think those two, and Josh had a good game too.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Those two guys give you so many options on how
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: you can rush the passer. Like you said, they move
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Walker inside and he rushes next to him. Or you
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: move him inside and have another tackle next to him, Armstead,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: and you rush him from the other side. There's so
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: many things you can do with them. And I think
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: camp is going to be really creative with them. And
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: I think that helps the defense as well. And I
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: love what I saw from the defense. And we'll get
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: to talking about the secondary too, because they might be
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: headed for.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: A problem as well. I like pinpointing problems. I mean,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: look who played. Everybody.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They didn't seem to be, we'll talk about the
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: exact snap counts a little later in the show, but
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: they definitely, we talked about what that secondary was going
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: to look like now that everybody was healthy and they
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: really did rotate it around. And, and I was, I
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: was trying to figure out if it was scheme or
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: if they just were trying to, it felt like they're
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: trying to get everybody in at least from the broader picture.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Early in the game, even they had like 60, we
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: talked about that last week.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: They're going to play a lot of six DBs. I mean,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: and Ransall was on, it wasn't like he played in
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: garbage time. He was on the field.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Early yeah and we didn't even know what that third
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: safety was going to look like right we were talking
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: whether it's going to be Caleb Ransaw or if it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Jalen Husky and Husky didn't dress they went with Ransaw
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: and he was out there quite a bit.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: He was, and he made some plays. He showed up.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: He showed his speed. I think that's what they want
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: to see from that spot. They would bring Johnson down
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: and play him as like a linebacker in the box
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: and then play Ransaw and Murray at safety. I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: he was creative again. And again, I'm with you.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: I don't think he showed a whole hell of a
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: lot like he will next week against Denver.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I just go back to training camp. I remember talking
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: to Trevor Lawrence and him saying that he was most
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: impressed during training camp with the wrinkles that camp has
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: added to his defense. He was saying as a quarterback,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: it's really difficult to, to understand what you're looking at
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and get a read quickly and get the playoff and
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that he's excited to see it put into work against
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: other quarterbacks going forward. So I am excited to see
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: that against the, if you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: If you know, if you don't know camp and you
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: see him out or whatever, get to know him because
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: he ain't going.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: To be around next year.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: And I thought I saw some to the very first defense,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the very first play of the game where you had
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Josh Hines out on the right side, And you had
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Trayvon on the left side. And if you watch Josh Hines,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I was almost he was it wasn't a four point stance,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: but he was like head up on the tight end.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Get ready to stop the run. It looked like a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: little bit. And to me, that shows. And this is
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: a new wrinkle. I feel like of this defense this year.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Last year, I felt like they had a strong side
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and they had a weak side.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: You had Trayvon Walker playing that strong side. Josh Hines
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: down playing the weak side. now it seems like they've
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: shifted a little more towards matchups because they're confident that
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: josh hines alan can do the exact same dirty work
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: that trayvon walker did last year in terms of stopping
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the run and kind of playing with that you know
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: two hands in the ground and playing run first and
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: then transitioning into your pass rush and if you can
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: do that now there's no strong side weak side there's
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: the left and there's the right and when you can
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: when you can just set it and say okay they're
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: going to go in motion josh move over get in
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the four point stance or oh trayvon your time like
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: That means everything because Trayvon Walker, yes, this quarterback sack
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: numbers were low last year. And yes, maybe like the
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: stats didn't pop off the page, but he was doing
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: all the dirty work. You see what happens when he
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: gets on the edge and that can actually pin his
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: ears back a little bit. He was causing chaos. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I expect that going forward now, too, as well, where
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: sometimes Josh will be playing that four.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I are stopping the run and sometimes it'll be Trayvon.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Make a good point.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: By the way, speaking of stopping, sorry, but speaking of
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: stopping the run.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: All 52 does is he gets no, nobody ever thanks
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: that guy.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: He's just a, it's just a plug in the middle.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It's a thankless job, man.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It's a thankless job.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: But I know they're, they always saying their hat, not
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: allowed in a hundred yard rush or kind of keeping
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: everything in check. And they certainly did that yesterday. When
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: you're talking about Josh and Trayvon. They are both healthy,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: and they both play well when they're playing together at 100%.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: You very rarely see one of them have a breakout
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: without the other one also playing well. And maybe it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the dirty work, so maybe it's not in the box score,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: but physically watching the tape and seeing both of them
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: out there having success, it's a combination of the two
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: of them. It's going to make them really dangerous if
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: they continue to do that. Let's see. What else haven't
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: we talked about? Well, let's talk a little bit about
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Denver because, I mean, we're going to see them tonight
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football. We haven't played yet. So a
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: little bit of a short week in that regard for
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: prepping for them. Obviously, last year they had a big
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: game late so they can talk about that. But Pete,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: what have you seen from them? What do you think
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: we'll see from them tonight from the Broncos?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Well, they played the preseason. They played their starters in
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: the preseason. So they've they've showed some stuff. Getting Jalen
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Waddell involved in that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Passing attack will really help them. I mean, he gives
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: them juice in the middle of the field.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's got the ability to take a short
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: slant and go to the house. So that changes who
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: they are. One thing about them, they won a lot
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: of close games last year.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: I think they were 11-2 or something like that in
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: close games, decided by, you know, seven points or less
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: or whatever. Well, if that's the case, usually, and the
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: history tells you that because a year ago, the Chiefs
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: won a lot of close games and then came back.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: To the norm. You usually come back to the mean
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: when that happens.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: So I'm not saying it's, and we'll know more tonight
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: when we see him, but usually if you win a
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: lot of close games, the next year, you usually lose
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: those games and you come back to the mean some more.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see how they play tonight.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: By the way, underdogs on the road to the Chiefs.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, you think about that. I don't know what
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: that says about, because the Chiefs have injury issues at
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: some spots. They're starting an undrafted left tackle. So I'm
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: curious to see how this plays out. But also, here's
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: the other thing. Bo Nix is coming off an ankle injury.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: an ankle injury he's injured before where is he in
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: terms of his health i think that's something to keep
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: an eye.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: On yeah to me that there's a couple questions with
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: with the broncos right now obviously you think the defense
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: is going to be still pretty stout and be pretty
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: solid but on offense you know like payton loves to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: run the football and he's been hellbent on getting 100
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: yard rusher game in and game out you have jk
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: dobbins which sounds like he's gonna be the starter going
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: forward doesn't really offer you a lot i feel like
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: in the past game but it's like that between the
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: tackles runner that they like They have R.J. Harvey, who
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: showed some glimpses as a little better receiver. But, like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're really confident with him being
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the lead back. So they kind of have, like, it's
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: going to be a running back by committee.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Well, the rookie they like a lot, too.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: The Coleman kid.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: So it's curious to see him with this Kansas City
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Chiefs game coming up, how they're going to rotate. Because
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: right now I feel like Dobbins is the guy. even
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: though he's not really diverse in what he can do
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: as opposed to the other two. So that'll be something
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: to watch. And also, like you said, Jalen Waddle, I mean,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: you spend a first round pick on him. How are
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: you going to use him?
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: And here's the other part of it. Sean Payton's not
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: calling plays.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Davis Webb is calling the plays now. So for how long,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: for how long is he.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Going to take it back?
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: I'm taking that damn thing out of his hands. It's mine.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: I'm doing it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: And so it'll be interesting to see how, how that
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: works out because he's calling plays for the first time.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: And look, everybody I've talked to says he's brilliant and
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: he will be a head coach in this league. But again,
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: it's the first time you're calling plays and you go
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: to arrowhead to play the chiefs.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: And then you got the Jaguars a second week. That's
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: a tough way to start. All right.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: That week, to match up on Sunday is going to
• 39:31
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• 39:35
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• 39:39
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• 39:42
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• 39:45
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• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Time to ask Copilot a question. We're going to check
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: in with Microsoft's Copilot because why not? So today we're
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: going to talk about Trevor a lot. So I had
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: to ask the question, how many NFL quarterbacks have thrown
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: for 100 touchdowns and run for 20 touchdowns before they
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: turn 27? And the answer is four. Trevor Lawrence now
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: joins Josh Allen, Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson as the
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: four quarterbacks to get it done with their arms and
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: with their legs. Trevor still got about a month of 26,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: which is crazy to think about because he feels like
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: he's been in the NFL forever in a day. But
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: that's the best I've seen him maybe since the Chargers
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: game was good to Pete. But that was just in
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: terms of operation. In my time here, that was the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: most confident, clean, just smooth production I've seen out of Trevor.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: There was only that one jumping in front of the
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage try to play he had. There's always
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: going to be one little thing, but everything else is perfect.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: That was a quarterback who told the world, I know
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: what I'm doing. I know the offense. That's what that was. Again,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the next step, go on the road and do that
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: against a good Denver team.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: You know, if you go on the road and you
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: go to Denver and you don't play well and you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Throw three interceptions, then all of a sudden you're going
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: to go, oh, wait a second, we have to slow
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: the roll.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: That was against the Browns. So that's why this is
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: a big week for him and for the offense. But
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: I'm not worried about it because I think what I
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: saw on Sunday is what we're going to see for
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: most of this year. What's he on pace for, 68 touchdowns?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: We're killing it with the math today, so we might
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: as well give him 68 touchdowns.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: The confidence to me, it was obvious, but like, look
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: at that. Talk about that Josh Cameron play again. You're
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: making it extremely difficult throw. And there's a lot of
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: trust in your receiver as well. Cause he could easily
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: get hung out to dry there. And it's a rookie.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Like he's now so confident. He's like, Oh, well, whoever
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I throw it to, I'm going to throw up so perfectly.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: They can't possibly mess it up. And I think that's
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: a new place for him to be. Cause he's never
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: going to be cocky. He's never going to talk that way,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: but with his play, I feel the confidence is coming through.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Well, the guy's taken a lot of abuse, let's be real.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Over the first, you know, part of his career, there
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: were people calling him a bust.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, number one overall pick, he's a bust, which
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: was absurd to begin with. But anybody who doesn't mention
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: him as a potential MVP and talks about him being
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: a bust.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Is just misguided.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: Now you're not even close to the truth because he
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: has arrived. And, you know, Damian Harris, who works with me,
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: last night on our show, last year, he was very
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: critical of Trevor early in the season. And then last night,
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: he said this Trevor reminds him of the Trevor who
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: torched his Alabama team in the national championship game.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Converted him.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: He did. Trevor converted him.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: And, you know, of course, I had to bring up
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: the fact that last year you buried him, so I
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: don't know if we can get him out of the
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: hole anymore.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: But.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that to me, he's making a lot
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: of converts of people who doubted him.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: And not that he cares about that, but you can
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: say all you want, you don't care. Deep down, it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: nice to shut up people.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's always going to be a motivation, right? Like,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you're not going to come out and say it. You're
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: not going to come out and say, I see people
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: on Twitter or anything like that. But, you know, deep down,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: nothing's better than shutting somebody up. And I think now, like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I guess the question is then what's the next step
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: for Trevor, right? Like MVP candidate last year and everything,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: like hopefully he's in the conversation.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Win it. Yeah, win it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: But also I think now we can start– because I
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: think this Josh Cameron play that Kai mentioned, I think
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: now we're starting to talk about he's elevating the guys
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: around him, right? Where it almost doesn't matter who he's
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: throwing to. Like the ball is going to get there.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It's going to be on target. And he can elevate
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: whoever he's throwing to. And I think you look around
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: the NFL, there's a very few amount of quarterbacks that
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: can do that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Like Mahomes.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I remember Aaron Rodgers in his prime could do that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: But that's that's a very rare trait that I'm not
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: ready to call and say Trevor Lawrence is there yet.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: But I think that's going to be the next step
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: When you talk about national coverage of Trevor and I
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: think part of, you know, it can be laziness. There's
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff to cover. I understand that. But
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: for Trevor, it's the consistency of it. You can't look
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: at that game and pick out anything and say he
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: made some grievous error. Before, there was always, hey, he
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: made a great throw, and then there's something else that
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: people can latch on to. If every week you're going
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: to look at the tape and Trevor's going to look
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: like that, it will become difficult for anybody to think
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: anything else. They've seen the interceptions, stuff like that, in
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: the past. And that's what they remember. And we talk about,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: you know, the Jags get overlooked every time because no
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: one they don't come to mind. People just kind of
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: gloss over it. And so now I think when he's
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: putting week to week, you'd have to go probably back
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: to even before like midseason last year to find consecutive
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: tape of him looking. confused or not looking confident not
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: knowing what's going on he's now in the last at
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: least nine regular season games even in the bills game
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: he's confident he knows what he's doing he's not making
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: dumb decisions you know things are not going to go
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: perfect and i think this week coming up will be
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: an example of a very tough test for them but
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: if he can consistently do that and have people remember
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: that i think that monday night football game did a
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: lot for him last year i know it wasn't pretty
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: but finding a way to win i think people remember
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: that and that's what gets in their minds and that's
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: kind of the reputation you get going forward well and
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: that's kind.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Of been trevor's mo i feel like where it hasn't
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: always been pretty right it hasn't always been aesthetically pleasing
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: but he finds a way to get the job done
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: this cleveland browns game was aesthetically pleasing with some of
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: the throws that he's made right and and he needs
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: to do that to get that national spotlight because he's
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: not a joe burrow where he's driving around in a
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: batmobile and and you know dating all these supermodels and
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: everything right he's not josh allen where he's gonna probably
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: run for 100 yards truck people run people over have
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: the human highlights lamar jackson the same way like trevor's
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: a quarterback and and he's an even-keeled quarterback that he
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: has a personality but like he's not going to go
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: above himself you know like a baker mayfield and dance
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: and do all this crazy stuff like he's calm cool
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: and collected so if he can go out there and
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: just keep on threading needles and making plays the world
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: will be forced to talk about.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Him unless he plays in jacksonville which hurts him Exactly.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: And I think with MVB campaigns, as we all know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: it's popularity contest. But if you have tape you can
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: throw out there and you can show me that Josh
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Cameron catch a million times, anybody's going to be impressed
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: with that. When you have throws like that, not only
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: just getting the stats up, but things that look difficult,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: a high degree of difficulty that he's completing, that will
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: help you and help your case. And having this early
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: in the season for him to put forth, because last
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: year he did great end of season, but that wasn't
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: enough to overcome anything.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: By the way, real quick, I feel better about my
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl pick today than I did.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: A week ago.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I would hope so.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Not just for what they did.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Just looking at some of the other teams in the
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: league and what they did, I really feel good about
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: that team and where it is.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Now, those Dallas Cowboys, we'll talk about that later.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a minute. Early.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Early. Early. Stay with us.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: We've got a whole other second hour. We've got a
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. We're going to get
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: to all of that and much, much more. And we'll
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: see you then on Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Digital Network in a minute. Welcome back to the second
• 47:29
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• 47:31
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• 47:33
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• 47:36
  Speaker 4: but let's do our opening drive presented by Target Zero.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Let's get everyone home safely. Blowout yesterday, Jaguars get the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: 34 to 10 win over the Browns and Trevor Lawrence
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: looked pretty flawless with four touchdowns, 245 passing yards, not
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: a ton of penalties. They were about 50% on third down,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: didn't turn the ball over. Check, check, check. Things look
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: pretty good. Yes, it is the Cleveland Browns, but going
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: in there. not playing around, not playing down to anybody,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: not letting the week one weirdness get to them because
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: the starters hadn't played at all in the preseason. They
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: went in and operated like, I don't know, this was
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: mid-season form for them, which Austin wasn't sure if we
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: were going to see that, but it was a nice surprise.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I was skeptical. I was getting ready to come in
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: here and say, well, see what happens.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: You guys don't practice or you don't play in the
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: preseason game. Hey, take your time off. Play the threes
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: and fours for the entire preseason. I'm not going to
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: say anything else because yes, okay, it was the Cleveland Browns,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: but It's how efficient that they looked, right? Because you
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: go back to last year, there was a pre-snap penalties,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the illegal motions, everything didn't get really cleaned up until
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: like week five, week six. I felt like you didn't
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: really see it. Was there any pre-snap penalties?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I think there might have been. Did Hainsey have one?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: There might have been an offensive line, one or two.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, it might have been, but it was minimal.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because this time last year, it was every single play.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: Every snap, and then they were late with the play
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: clock all the time.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: That was another problem.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: It was tough to watch, and that's why you know
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Trevor has more control of the offense.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: Cause you didn't see that on Sunday. And I think
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: that that's the bet. One of the best things, by.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: The way, where any of the defensive players, man, that
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: they gave up that late touchdown.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Did anybody say anything? in the locker room? Josh is furious.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, Josh Heinz.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Foye is furious.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: He did. All of them.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, very upset. Because they were... I mean, they were.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: First of all, watching that game is the latest touchdown,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: so it made it 10 points. They should have held
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: them out of the end zone. It was one explosive. Yeah.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: And that's something they are very keenly aware of is
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: limiting the explosive and to have that one touchdown. Yeah,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I heard it from I think everybody that spoke.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: That was Monteric, wasn't it, on that?
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: That was Monteric Brown, yep.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he got caught in man coverage, which is not–
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: that's not his strong suit. That kid can run, by
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: the way. That kid from– the rookie from Washington can run.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: And so he got caught trailing him, and he just
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: ran by him.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: It's okay. It's all right. There's got to be something
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: to improve upon. Well, special teams– Coverage, too, probably. There's
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: a couple of things. There's always something you've got to
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: work on, right? You've got to have some teach tape somewhere. But, yeah,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: they were, other than that, a great defensive effort from them.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: And early, we talked about that kind of first drive.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: It was going along, and you're like, oh, wait, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: then to get the turnover. So I thought that was key.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: And I know Coach Campanelli focuses a ton on takeaways.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: You always say that, but they really do focus on
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: having their eyes towards the football, being aware– presence and
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: knowing where they need to be on the field, but
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: just being aware of where the ball is as well.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: And a couple of takeaways in this one. So clearly
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: they're trying to get back to that style that they
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: had going last year. Do they need to keep getting
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: those takeaways to have success? Cause those can be in,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: you know, they can come in waves, but I feel
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: like it helps so much with getting the offense back
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: on the field.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: Well, it's great to get takeaways, but sometimes takeaways can
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: mask the fact that your defense isn't very good.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Like, I'll give you an example.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: The Chicago Bears all last year got a ton of takeaways,
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: but their defense wasn't very good. And on Sunday, their
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: defense wasn't great again, and they got a bunch of takeaways.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's great to get them. Nobody's going to
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: complain about them.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: But that doesn't necessarily translate to you being a dominant defense.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, yeah, if you have a good
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: pass rush, it contributes to that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: So i think ideally they'd like to be a better
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: defense all the way around against the pass they were
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: great against the run last year but you got to
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: be better against.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: The pass pete here's the phrase that gets echoed way
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: too much on defense it's ben don't break right we
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: want to bend but we don't want to break well
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: i mean i think you know the jaguars were a
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: little bit of an example but ben don't break defense
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: last year i think they want to improve upon that
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: like i think josh hines allen generally being pissed off
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: for giving up 10 points against the cleveland browns it
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: shows like expectations now in the bar has been raised
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: even more where it's not bend, don't break.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: It's we're not bending at all.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Like we're, we're going to enforce our will on you
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: cause turnovers and get the ball back to the offense.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: It's a good point.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: Those guys weren't on the field then though, if I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: not mistaken, that was at the end.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: I didn't, I didn't, by then. Yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think that was like two, three minutes left.
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: It was late.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, they hang, they love the fact that they
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: didn't allow a hundred yard rusher last year. That was up. They,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: They hear it. They pinpoint it in their minds. You know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: they have things that motivate them, of course. I think
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: it's a good point you're saying about Josh. They they
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: turn the page quickly at times in the past. And
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: this is, you know, because notoriously Jacksonville have a good
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: season and they fall off.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: As of recent, that's kind of the M.O. and what
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: people talk about. To me, the mentality of the team
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: having a really great season under new leadership, probably overachieving
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: last year, they've moved forward and truly embody the fact
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: that they expect to win. It was not always that way.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Even at times last year, it was like they were
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: more excited, happy to win. Yes, it's becoming an expectation.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: You feel like they hate losing more than they like
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: winning sometimes, and that's what good teams are. I don't
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: think they had that before, and I feel like it's difficult.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I know Liam Cohen hates losing more than he likes winning.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: but now it's getting down to the players and you
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: feel it a bit more. And Josh, I'm down. Who's
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: been here for a long time and was with some
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: of those teams. Now hearing him in an answer, be like, yeah,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: we want all that. That's great. I'm talking about Denver
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: next week. Like we're already post game on Sunday talking
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: about the next one.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Well, and here's the beautiful thing about week one. And
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: once again, a thing that's overset a lot, but I
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: do agree with you make your most improvements from week
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: one to week two. Okay. But the importance of week one,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I always felt like is, You can tell what teams
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: have bought in through training camp that trust in their
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: coaches and what teams that are kind of still teeter-tottering
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if this is really going to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: be us or not, right?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Like, I think the Jaguars, for as flawless as they
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: were with cleaning up the penalties and everything, I think
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: it goes to show that they bought all in, right?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Now, is that going to equate to 13, 14 wins?
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: But I think it shows that this team is playing
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: together from week one on. And this team is, you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: they have unfinished business, let's just say, from Buffalo. I
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: thought the game last night, the Giants game, for instance,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of questions in New York
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: about what they're going to look like, right, what that
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: defense is going to do, what Jackson Dart's going to do.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: That Giants team showed, you know what, they kind of
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: bought in to what John Harbaugh is selling.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: So I get it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: It's a hodgepodge of what you can tell, what you
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: can't tell from week one. But I think what you
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: can really get a good inkling on is what teams
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: are buying and what teams are still on the fence
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: And I think with a new coaching staff, with like
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: what Liam Cohen's saying, it's easy to get the rah-rah
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: in the first year. But then, you know, are they
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: going to keep? buying into and making it a standard
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: because there's places there's certain franchises or teams you go
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: to and you know what is expected of you you
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: know what the standard is and liam cohen is trying
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: his very damnedest to make it a winning standard in
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: jacksonville and coming here and understanding you're going to be
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: a physical football team and we're going to win football
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: games and it's trickling down and you're feeling it a
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: little bit more this season i think oh.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: And by the way one one thing we haven't talked
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: much about the offensive line oh yes i thought colvin
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: lannan For a guy that coming off a major knee surgery,
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: he was outstanding.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: And didn't really hit in practice until last week. He
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: came out.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Of the game early. I don't know how many snaps
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: he played, but he came out early.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Walker Little came in, I think, third quarter at
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: some point, later in the third quarter. I mean, it
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: was well in hand by that point.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: And Walker wasn't good. Walker was Walker. He wasn't that good.
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: But Colvin Atlanta was very good. I thought the right
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: guard was solid. I thought the center was okay, not great.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: The left guard is a rookie in pass protection.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: He's a square.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: He had some pancakes, too.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: And he's good in the run game.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: Once he understands his assignments a little better and the angles,
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: he's going to be really good.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: In the run game. And the left tackle was really good,
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I thought.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you didn't hear Jed versus name at all.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a big zero on the stats sheet
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: pretty much.
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Anton shut it down. I know that defense looks a
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: lot different than what we expected, but still just to
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: have that clean of a day when you have so
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: many people familiar faces, but in different positions.
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: This line looks nothing like what it looked last year
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: in terms of where these people are playing.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And if Harrison can keep on doing he I mean,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about the Parker Washington deal and everything. Well,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Harrison's going to be in line for another one as well.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: So they're going to have some problems on their hands
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: in terms of how they're going to divvy up all
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: the cash. But it's great to see because and I
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: get it. There's a lot of returning players on offensive line,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: but there might have been a question of, OK, can
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Anton Harrison play left tackle in the NFL?
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: And I thought he passed with flying colors against a
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: guy like Jared Burse and pregnant is still pancaking people.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: Don't you love Austin, though? He wants to pay Ventrell Miller.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: He wants to pay Harris.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: It's not our money. It ain't my money. It's easy
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: What do you want me to do? ETN slash HN.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I will donate plasma if I have to to help out.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: What do you want me to do? I want to
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: pay everybody, man. This is a form of player speaking.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I want to see players get paid.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Austin, some guys you just got to let go.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Pete, let me ask you this then real quick,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: and Kyle, feel free to play along here. If you
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: could franchise take one player and try to work a
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: different deal with another player, are you going to franchise
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: take Anton Harrison?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Are you going to franchise take Parker Washington?
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: How many years? He's got a year. Anton has another.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Year on his field. He's a first-round pick, so he
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: has the fifth-year extension, right? Isn't that how– But OK,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: so it'll be a crazy number, I'm assuming. So they'll
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: probably want.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: To look it up. But I think that's OK.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Then scratch that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: He was the same year as Parker, but he has
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: the extra year for the extension.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: I'd much rather have the left tackle if he's good.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: What's a franchise tag number on a left tackle, though?
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Is that like crazy?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think a wide receiver is crazy now, too, though.
• 57:30
  Speaker 8: True.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I don't. Parker, you got to situate that.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He's got one more year left.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. Gotcha.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Cause they picked up the extension on him. Gotcha. Okay.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So he's fine then, but he'll, I'm sure be asking
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, you know, you know how that works.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. He's going to be, cause he's going to
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: be like Parker. Cause Parker has the year, this is
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: his year and he's barking about a contract. And so, yeah,
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: of course he's going to be barking about a new contract. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: When you have this much change on the line, I
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: didn't know what it was going to look like in term.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: It's the same players are in different spots, but that's change. Um,
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: not only did they do well in pass protection, they
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: got the run a little bit when they chose to
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: do that. Trevor was comfortable with it. I mean, another
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: comfort thing with Trevor, like he could have easily been like,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: all right, let me like, I got a rookie over here.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Anton's like, you know, he was not looking around at all.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: He's fully trusting in that.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: And I feel everybody.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: He didn't have anybody near him for most of that game.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: He had no, he had clean pockets.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: You know, to throw those balls down the field, it
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: takes time. He's going to have to stand there.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: And they were good. I mean, that line was good.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, they had some leaky stuff here and there,
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: but for the most part, it was good.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Pete, let me ask you this.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I haven't really been following Denver too closely. Are they
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: returning a bunch of their guys back on defense? Obviously, like,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: they're still going to be pretty solid getting after the
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: quarterback and everything. Yeah, everyone's coming back.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: That pass rush was impressive last season. So that'll be
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: a different kind of test.
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: And, you know, But again, when Jacksonville went there last year,
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: they beat them up pretty good, I thought.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: They got up early and then it was quiet. And
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: that was, if you've ever been in the press box,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: good because it shakes. It's not like.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: The old mile. The old mile high really used to shake.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: It is loud it is a great environment if you're
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: the home team uh it will be important for the
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: jaguars to once again you know get things going early
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: i think that that that always helps when you're on
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: the road in a tough game but i feel like
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: this was a marquee game last year it really put
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: The Jaguars on the map a little bit because Denver
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: was really good. I mean, they were made as the
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: AFC championship. They're a great team, but they were, you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: whatever their record was at that time in the season,
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars were trying to win out to continue to
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: win the AFC South because the Texans were neck and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: neck with them. I wasn't surprised they went there and
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: did that, but to do it in really dominating fashion,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: how important is it for them to do it this
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: year too? Because Not just necessarily because of what people say,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: but schedule-wise, it's not an easy schedule. It's not a
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: first-place schedule. It's tough. A win at Denver, I feel,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: would take them a long way.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: A win at Denver serves notice to the– depending on
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: what happens tonight. I mean, if Denver goes in and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: lays an egg at Kansas City, then we're going to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: sit back and say, okay, maybe they're not as good.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: But if Denver wins or plays a competitive game at
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: Kansas City, then you're going to sit there. If Jacksonville
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: goes to Denver and wins, then I think it opens
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: up the eyes. And I think a lot of people
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: are starting to get on to Jacksonville a little bit.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: I've heard a lot of the national media come around
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: a little bit. So a win at Denver would be
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: enormous for them. And we talked before the season when
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: we played it out, this four-game block– It's what it's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: it's Denver and then it's New England. Well, New England.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the Bengals.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a tough four game stretch. They got
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: to come out of that with at least two, if
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: not three of them.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Well, and here's why I think it would be impressive
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: if Jacksonville can go to Denver and once again, take
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: care of business like last year.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: And once again, it's the NFL, right? Anybody can win
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: any given Sunday and everything.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: But I guarantee the guys in that locker room and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos locker room are going to say, okay, well,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: we didn't take Jacksonville seriously. They're the small market team,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. Well, NFL players have short memories, but
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: they also have long-term memories, right? And I guarantee every
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: single player in that Denver Broncos locker room remembers how
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: that Jaguars game went, right? So there's going to be
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: some bad blood there. There's going to be a little
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: bit of a payback, a little comeuppance. And if the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Jaguars can show up and beat the Broncos with the Broncos' best– Yeah,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: then I think you put the whole NFL on notice.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: I do too.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: And by the way, I still think had they gone
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: there in the playoffs, they would have beat them again.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: The way they were playing in the end. Yeah, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: feel the matchup for them.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: I think they would have beat them again.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Favorable. A lot to talk about here on Jaguars Happy
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Hour on a victory Monday. Coming back, we're going to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: keep it real about the cornerbacks and the playing time.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: A lot to talk about there. Jaguars Happy Hour today
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• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: Feel really comfortable, really confident in what we're doing. I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: think last year at this time, I knew what we
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: were doing, but it was still, you know, you're still
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: getting used to the game plan and the moving parts
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: of the offense, which is a lot, which is a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: big change for me. So I think there was that
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: dynamic of still trying to get completely comfortable in it.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: So I think all that stuff, I feel, feel really good.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: And like I said, we got to have short memory and,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: you know, enjoy it tonight.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: It was awesome.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: We get to win a week one, but just excited
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: now to, we got a big challenge next week and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: we got to turn the page and, go put together
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: another great game plan.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: We're already turning the page to next week. That includes
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: the matchup against Denver, of course. So if you want
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• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: going to be in town. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Kai, Austin, Pete,
• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: keep it real, but this one is presented by ServPro
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: like it never even happened. We're going to talk about
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: the cornerback situation because a lot of being made of
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: what Travis Hunter's snap count was going to be. Did
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: not play a ton on offense. Had four offensive snaps,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: two targets, I think. And on defense, he only played
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: 26 snaps, which we thought CB1 would be on the field.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: And yes, there was some later in the game, wasn't in,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: of course. I mean, Mark Tarek Brown was in, so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: there's an argument there. But the snap count was a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: little maybe misleading. So I'll read off some of the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: DB playing time. Antonio Johnson had 45 snaps. Buster Brown
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: had 38 snaps. Jarrion Jones had 37 snaps. Rand saw
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: the rookie, or not rookie, the second-year player. He didn't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: play last season. He had 33. Murray also had 33.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter had 29. Jordan Lewis had 28. So, Pete,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I know you watched the film. Is some of that scheme?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Are they trying to keep everyone happy? What's going on?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: Well, they took him out late, so he didn't.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: That was, for him, that was, you know, he's coming
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: off a knee injury, so you take him out. That
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: makes sense. So that's why his were down a little bit.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: But they're in a situation where, They.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Got a lot of guys.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: That's a pretty even split.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: You can't play them all. How many guys did you mention?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: So I had a bunch of the DBs. So Antonio Johnson,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Monterey Brown, Jaron Jones, Caleb Ransaw, Murray, Hunter, and Lewis.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: That's seven.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: And you're not going to play seven a lot of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: the time. So that means somebody or some bodies.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Are not on the field.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: And they did use a lot of defenses where they
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: had six of them on there. They had Ransaw and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: Murray at safety and kind of dropped down Antonio. A
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: couple of times they dropped Ransaw down and played him
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: up there. And so they, you know, Jordan Lewis played
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: in the slot. Jari and Joe's played both spots. And
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: I think that that's what you're going to see from them.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: And in talking to people around that team, one of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: the things they said to me was they all tackle.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of teams don't have a corner
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: who doesn't tackle. And they have corner, you know, Jordan
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: Jones will tackle. Jordan Lewis will tackle. Hunter will tackle.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: They'll tackle.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: And so if you've got guys that Monteric will tackle.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: So if you have guys that are willing to tackle,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: you can do different things with that.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what you're going to see this year.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not buying too much into the 26 snaps
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: on defense, right? This is what happens when you play
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, right? I expect a lot more snaps
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: against the Denver Broncos. Assume the game is going to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: be a lot closer than what it was yesterday. And
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: people got to keep in mind, this is a marathon,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: not a sprint. And they're all healthy right now. They're
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: all healthy. Obviously, coming off a major injury last year,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: didn't play any of the preseason games. Yeah, let's go
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: ahead and ease Travis Hunter along. Now, I didn't have
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Josh Cameron getting a touchdown before Travis Hunter did, if
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I'm being 100% transparent. But I think they're going to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: sprinkle him on in the offensive part of the game
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: as well. And then on defense, that's your starting cornerback.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: And as long as the game's competitive... I expect to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: see him out there covering one receivers a lot more
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: than what we saw against the Browns.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: Cause there were, and I thought he did a nice
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: job in the coverages he was asked to do too.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, he could cover, there's no question about that.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: He's a natural at that. I feel that's his obviously
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: natural position, but it doesn't seem as it's effortless almost
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: like that's where you see his talent shine the most.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: And I think his B comes a little more comfortable
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: as an NFL cornerback, you know, understanding what he can
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: maybe get away with, you know, the push and pull
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: of it. He's going to only progress to be even better.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: That's where he can be a shutdown. And I think
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: it'll take a little bit more time. I think, I'm
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: not sure if we're fully there yet with Travis Hunter.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: And as you mentioned, he is coming back from a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: knee injury.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: So by the way, when.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: He came on the field on offense, they handed him
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: one of my favorite little, uh, you know, jet sweepers.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: The little jet sweepers. And then they threw a, what
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: they threw a bubble screen from that. Right. Didn't they?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: Come on. Oh no.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: True.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: But then that bubble screen, we just talked about it. The,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: like the second break of the show, that bubble screen
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: opened up the touchdown and, Um, yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: To Brenton strange.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: That would have been, well, no, because the idea, the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: idea of part of that play is to open up
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: the one down, you know, you fake it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: And then you hit Jacoby.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: It was a fake.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: So it didn't work.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Trevor just worked it to the, coming back to the middle.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Trevor threw and completed a pass to nine different players yesterday.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Parker Washington, of course, Brian Thomas jr. We haven't even
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: touched on what he was able to do yesterday. Jacoby Myers,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: who had a touchdown catch. Brent Strange, who had a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: touchdown catch. Josh Cameron, who had a touchdown catch. Tootin
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: caught a pass from him. Nate Borkature, your rookie tight end.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. Amir Abdullah had one. And they also threw
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: one to Quint Morris.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Almost had one.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Almost had another one. So he almost had 10. They're
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: not afraid to spread the ball around. That is clear.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: But they won, so no one's upset yet, Pete. Is
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: it just too early?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: Well, at least we don't know about it yet. If
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: Jacoby hadn't got his touchdown, I bet he wouldn't be happy.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: He was.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Strange, maybe, too.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: But what did he have, though?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: He had one he dropped, didn't he? Yeah, so he
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: had three targets, two receptions, 23 yards.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't imagine everybody's thrilled with their usage yesterday,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: even though they won. But, again, guys got pulled out
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: of the game. So you're not going to do that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: It's hot. They want to chill out. It was a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: lot yesterday.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's a problem in a game.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: That's not a problem in a game like that. But, again,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: it could be. And I thought Borkic's reception showed that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: he could run away from some people. I mean, that's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: a good sign.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: And he played a ton, Pete.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he can block.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: They like his blocking ability. I mean, he's a good blocker.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: They have two tight ends that now can block. That
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: gives you flexibility there. And both of them catch the football,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: And Morris, not the best receiver, but Morris had some
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: great blocks yesterday as well.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: He did.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: They all can block. You're right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: All those tight ends can block. So that gives you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: some flexibility there. But you wait when these receivers start complaining.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: I know it's coming. Okay, but real quick, though.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: So when you say they start complaining, are we going
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: on Twitter? Are we doing this in the press conference?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: How's it going to happen?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know how it's happening, but it'll happen.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Are we going to hear Adam Schefter?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: When you have that many, when you have that many,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: it's going to happen.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: It's going to be like an Adam Schefter exclusive. We're
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. They're undefeated. They're 5-0, but they're not happy
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: with who's getting the ball. Is that what it's going
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: to be?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Well, if someone gets sent out, you might notice. If
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: somebody gets sent out of the way.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: If they're 5-0, nobody's squawking.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: If your team's good, they're not going to squawk.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas, who we haven't talked about, he had a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: couple good catches.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Went to the middle of the field.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Nice catch.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: He had a couple good catches in the middle of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: the field, set up that Josh Cameron. It was on
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: the same drive as that Josh Cameron touchdown. And, you know,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: for all we've said about him as well, for him
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: to do that. And I think by spreading it around,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: you're not depending on him as much for every single thing.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: It's allowed other players to get open. And in this example,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: setting up the Josh Cameron touchdown, BT, I think, excels
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: best like this. I don't know if it'll continue in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: the same split as the season goes along or if
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: he'll be happy with it, like Pete says. But I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: like how they're utilizing, and we say this all the time,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: they're playing to everybody's strengths, right? So they're putting them
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: in positions to succeed. And Brian Thomas Jr., I've been
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: pleased with what I've seen. from him so far.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: Well, he's had a great offseason.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: And he looked, I mean, on the field on Sunday,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: he looked like a different guy. He looked like he
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: was back to being the guy we thought he would be.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: He's got to be a guy that's a field stretcher.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: He has to be.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: And whether you stretch the field, then you break those in-breakers,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: because he loves throwing those in-breakers.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: We know that.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: Liam Cohen loves the in-breakers.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: And look, that's where you get a lot of your
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: chunk plays is on those passes.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: He told me that. That's where you get a lot
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: of chunk plays out of the in-breakers.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: Brian thomas had to be able to go prove to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: people we can go across the middle and he did
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: on sunday that's a good sign going.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Forward and i think just mentally too because you saw
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: when he when he had that catch across the middle
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: and he yeah he you know he flexes up the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: crowd got him back he was flexing to 20 000
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: people on twitter saying that he can't go across the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: field and catch the ball and he's scared right like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: that that was for them now you know had a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: little bit i think it was a shoulder if i'm
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: not mistaken where he went out a little bit but
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: then came back.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: In so And he's had that kind of unfortunately on
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: and off where he, cause he goes up and he
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: comes down on his shoulders pretty hard. I think he's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: this training camp last year. He dealt with a shoulder,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: but this training camp as well, he got a little
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: banged up.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: So I thought, I thought Austin was saying he was
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: flexing to the 20,000 people on the crowd.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Oh no, there's more than 20,000 people.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: Pete.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: No, it was, it was, it was, it was a
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: good turn. So it's limited capacity. Upper deck is closed.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Was it sold? Was it sold out to 40,000?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear the announcement, but I will just visually
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: for me, because those September games are brutal, and I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: don't blame anyone that doesn't want to sit outside in
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: that temperature. I understand it. And with the opponent, it
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily a huge marquee game. It was really full, Pete.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people in the bud zone, whatever
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: you want to call it, upstairs, kind of in the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: shade and everything.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Or you'll see the Jacksonville side full with the shaded areas.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: I would say the whole bowl section that was open
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: was pretty full.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: If they beat Denver and come home, that game will
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: be packed against New England.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: It's going to be packed anyway. It should be. That's
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: going to be a great matchup.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: If they lose, you never know.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Nah, I think we're past it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: If they want to give out like a... Because we
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: got free hats, so we're all excited about those.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: We'll have free gifts.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: If you want to give out like a complimentary IV
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: for the next home game, because it was.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Gatorades or something.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: It was rough.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: It was a rough one.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: It was bad, and it's that... As you're familiar, Pete,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: it's that like Florida rain a little bit, then steamy
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: and just steamy.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, I can't only.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm very happy.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: Well, that's not going to be an issue in the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: new stadium, right? It won't be an issue.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: I'm happy for pace of play because it poured exactly
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: like five minutes after the game ended. So we made it.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: We didn't have to do a rain delay like we
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: did or lightning delay like we did in the opener
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: against the Panthers last year. So all is well.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Well, the way the Browns look and just call the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: game with the preseason, we'll go home.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I would have.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: Usually the Browns have a lot of fans that go
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: with them or they're not.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: There was a little bit, but I believe the situation
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: they're dealing... I don't know if... Watson as the QB
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: is inspiring anybody to travel. There was a little. There
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: was a little.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: So it was funny because the Browns fans that did
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: travel that we talked to after the.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Game, and they were, I mean, I felt kind of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: bad because they're just getting ragged on, right?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jaguars have been there.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: They know.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: But the Browns fans are just like, yeah, we're just
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: happy to come to Florida and hang out. Have a
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: nice weekend. The exact quote was, we're actually going to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: away games better than our home games. So this was
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: a nice vacation for us. I'm like, okay.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: I thought the Jaguars would make them wear brown.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: I said the exact same thing in the pregame show
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: because when I, and I don't know if it's the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: rules changed or not, but back when we, when I played,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I remember we played Tennessee, 2011 opening game at home.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: We made them wear the blue. We went all white.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: We went white tops and white bottoms because yeah.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: Jacksonville picked that. So they could now somebody said the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: jerseys are so light now.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: It really doesn't matter anymore. Hmm. You tell me.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: It might be a mental thing.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I haven't worn a jersey, Pete, in 15 years, man.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but if you felt any of the new ones,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: go feel one of the new ones.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: You tell me if you feel like when you're next
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: time you're in the field.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I'll get back to.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: You on it. It doesn't matter that Jacksonville Heat.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: You know that. Same. Same.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: The Browns' brown jerseys look heavy.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: Don't they? Yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I said the exact same thing in the pregame show.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know why they're going teal today.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: It could be a mental thing. Who knows? It's hot
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: down there for everybody. I'm not even going to.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: But also, there's some gamesmanship, too. And I don't know
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: if the rules changed, where if you're the home team,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: you can decide to have fans on the sideline. And
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: if you have fans, then the away team gets them.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Just like if you play in colder weather, if you
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: get a heated bench, the away team gets the heated bench.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: But if you opt out of a heated bench, the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: away team doesn't get it. So I remember playing in
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: a cold weather game in Tennessee where they didn't want
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: the heated bench because it was an advantage.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: So we didn't get it.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: They had the fans on there, fortunately. I don't think
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: anybody's not going to do it in week one.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: We'll see with New England.
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  Speaker 4: first fan question is. Ah, here we go. Do the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: kickoff problems have more to do with kicker timing his
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: kicks or is it the coverage unit? Probably the only
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: thing you can nitpick from yesterday. Pete, what's going on
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: with that?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked like coverage unit to me.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: So how do you fix it? I mean, was this
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: a problem last year? Is this just a personnel issue?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: What's going on? Heathrow will handle it, I'm sure, but
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: where do you think they could fix things?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a lot of young guys that
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: are just playing special teams. You're learning how to play
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: special teams, and it takes a little time to adjust
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: to that. So I wouldn't panic after one game. I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: think that might be a little.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Bit of an overreaction.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Well, and this is really the one play that you
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: can't mimic In training camp.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: That you can't really mimic in practice.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, sure, you guys can run down and everything,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: and you can go, you know, eight-quarter speed, seven-quarter speed. But, like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: to go full speed and then to try to hit somebody, like,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: you're not going to simulate that in practice, right? So
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: the only time you get it is in the game. And, yeah,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: like Pete said, I mean, hopefully it's just a one-off
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: and then they clean it up and everything. But if
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: this starts to be a problem, then maybe you guys
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: start looking at personnel in terms of getting some other
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: guys in there.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: Or kick the damn thing out of the end zone.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Or kick it out of the end zone and go
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: to 35.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: Take Pete's advice.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: All right, Van Diver wants to know, he says, I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: know it's week one, but can Josh Cameron be a
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: dark horse offensive rookie of the year candidate? You have
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: to imagine he's going to be a big red zone
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: target for Trevor because he's big in there and he'll
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: go up and get it. I think it's early, Pete,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: but is this possibly... Something to keep an eye on
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: going forward.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: He's not going to get enough catches. He's not going
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: to be involved enough. I mean, let's look at it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: on the surface. Technically, he's the fifth receiver.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: Yes. If you count Hunter. And so fifth receiver is
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: not going to be an offensive rookie of the year.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: So I would be astounded if he had more than
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: four touchdowns.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: That would shock me.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think when you talk about Offensive
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year, it's all about volume, right? You
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: got some running backs out there like Love in Arizona.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: That's going to get the volume if he can stay healthy.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: So I just think, I mean, listen, I think Josh
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Cameron's a great story. He's got a bright future here. But, like,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to get the targets and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: the reps needed to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: He won't either be Offensive Rookie of the Team because
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: Pregnanz is starting left guard with him.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: I mean dude keeps getting pancakes maybe you can nominate
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: him who knows i mean he might be a household
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: name like quentin nelson was remember quentin like remember quentin
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: nelson for a while was the only guard i ever
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: heard of in the nfl it seemed like for the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: right couple years.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah sometimes it's good when they don't say your name
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: though especially i.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: Tell you what cameron that's a good story because you
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: were drafting him where you drafted him and the fact
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: that they raved about him all off season in the
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: summer i mean that it tells you that they did
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: a nice job picking him.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah Let's move a little long. Tartan Teal wants to know,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: how many sacks do we think Trayvon and Josh Heinz-Allen
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: will have this season?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: This is the Basselli question from last year.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: They each have one and a half so far through
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: one game.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: You know that?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: This is the Basselli question from two years ago. He
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: predicted the 26.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: I think it was. I think they got to it.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Okay is that the year josh had 17 and a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: half and trayvon had like 10 or 11 because that's.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: How they got to so austin you pick it all
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: right so this is gonna be combined uh sure yeah
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: let's go ahead what did tony guess it was 27
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: he called the 26 i think he guessed 26 okay
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: and i said if they got the 27 and a
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  Speaker 5: half They'd be in the championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Half right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, then I guess I got to do
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: them one better, which I think it's feasible if they
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: can both stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: But also there's going to be a lot of blitzing, right?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to say 27. All right.
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  Speaker 4: We're on record.
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  Speaker 8: 27.
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  Speaker 5: How do you break it down?
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  Speaker 3: I think you're going to give... I think Heinz Allen
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: gets the advantage. So I think you're going to give
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: him 15. Okay. And then you're going to give Trayvon Walker,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: it would be 12.
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  Speaker 4: 12.
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  Speaker 2: There there's that.
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  Speaker 6: Math 15 and 12 by the way yeah they get
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: 15 and 12 they will be in the super.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: Bowl all right book it book it and book it
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  Speaker 4: check mark we know you we know you already called
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: the super bowl shot so that's fine so we'll just
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: add it we'll add it to the list dutch brewmaster
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: wants to know is ventrilo ventral miller looking this good
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: a surprise to anybody else campanile absolutely cooking for us
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: which we talked about this earlier in the show but
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: Ventrell was one of the best players out there on
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: defense and did not miss a beat. And Coach Campanile's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: system certainly supports that. I don't think, I wasn't shocked, Pete.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: I know you weren't.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: No, I was not. But I will say this. He
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: looks leaner.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: He looks like he's trimmed down a little bit. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: he's faster, which I think he needed to do. I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: think they all.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: Looked a little bit faster on the defensive side of football.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: But I look at his body composition, he doesn't look
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: as square as he looked a year ago, and I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: think that's helped him with his speed.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: He's always been a violent player.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, he throws his body around, but he needed
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: to be faster, and I think he did so. It
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: just looks that way to me, to the eye, and
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: I know you guys have been around him.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: Does he look leaner to you?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: No, actually, I agree with you, because that was, going
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: into training camp, that was my biggest question. It was like, man,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: you know, he always kind of seemed like a heavier guy,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: maybe even like a middle linebacker type more than the
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: off-the-ball linebacker, but.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: He showcased his speed yesterday, and you mentioned it, Pete,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: and I agree with you. I think Ventra Miller, his
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: biggest asset is the physicality. It's the violence that he
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: plays with. And any position, but especially linebacker, you can't
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: teach that. You can get leaner, you can get in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: the weight room and get a little faster, but you
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: can't get more violent. Either you're born with that or
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: you're not. And he's born with that with spades, obviously.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: So if you take that and couple that with his
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: speed now, you got something.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: I was impressed. I was not shocked. Hush now. We're
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: talking about Ventrell. We're talking about Ventrell. All right, let's
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: hit our last break because I think there's a bunch
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: of stuff to talk about around the NFL. So when
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: we come back, we'll talk about what went on in
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: the NFL over the week and what we're looking forward
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: to next week in week two. This is Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 4: what that looked like, but let's check in because it
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  Speaker 4: We don't have enough Pete in our lives.
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  Speaker 3: Just football.
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  Speaker 5: Just football. Just football every day. I'm on Monday, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 5: and Thursday.
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  Speaker 6: And then postgame, the postgame, right after the game, we
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: just go final.
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  Speaker 5: 7 to 9 every Sunday.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: So, Pete, you get to watch all these games. Let's
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: start off with that Super Bowl repeat. Unfortunately, it looked
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: like the Patriots had the same game plan they had
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: the first time around, and it did not go well.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: Drake May, wild fourth quarter.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: Well, Drake May in his last five games has not
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: been very good.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: He's not. That defense was amazing in that playoff run,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: but yeah, he wasn't lighting it up.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: He struggled, and they said he was hurt in the playoffs,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: but he didn't play very well the other night either.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: It was the decision-making.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: Drake May has to go out this week against Pittsburgh
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: and prove to people that he can get over all
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: this bad football he's been putting up out there.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: A.J.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Brown, too, can be out for a little bit.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: And Sam Darnold got hurt.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: He was loafing around anyway.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Did you see that clip of him mic'd up on
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: the sideline telling a line to.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: Block for him? I was like, you're not going to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: make friends with Doug that way.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Don't tell the big boys up front what to do, man.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: That ain't your job. Not good.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Uh another of the earlier games this week the 49ers
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: and the rams in australia rams went down for a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: whole day and it uh did not go as it
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: did in london it backfired this time around and then
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: also crazy miles garrett had that knee injury all camp
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: now he's getting surgery on it that's crazy to me
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: It's a young man's game never ever forget that it's
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: a young man's game Miles Garrett's not a young man.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald's coming off two years not playing.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: Not a young man. Matt Stafford, who didn't look good,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 6: not a young man. It's a young man's game. And
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: they're also slow. The Rams are slow. They can talk
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: all they want about the travel and everything else. If
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: that game was played anywhere and anytime, they would have
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: lost the game. The 49ers were better that day. They
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: would have won at home, at San Francisco, at the Rams.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Is it panic mode for LA, or is this weak weirdness?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: They'll figure it out.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: No, but it's funny how everybody... crowned them before this.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: They're an on paper team. You're like, Oh, this looks
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: really good.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: You know what? Four times.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: I think it's in the last 30 years that the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: team that was crowned and was the heavy favorite has
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: won it four times.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: Doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: We're QB situation in Atlanta. We've been talking about who
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: to his name starter, right? Then all of a sudden
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: there's practice footage where he just sits down and then
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: we don't see him again. And then he's not playing.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: Then Cooper rush, who we didn't even know was around
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: has back spasms. He's playing. It was, it was, What's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: the situation there?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: Look to the college ranks, because that's where their quarterback's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: going to be for them. Look, Tua's not it. Michael
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: Penix isn't it. Cooper Rush certainly isn't it. I mean,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: if they had any sort of quarterback play, they would
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: have won the game against the Steelers on Sunday. The only,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: you know, the Steelers didn't light it up. They had
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: a touchdown, you know, an interception.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: By TJ Watt.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Otherwise they, you know, they might not even win that game.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: So Atlanta's got quarterback issues. They're going to have quarterback
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: issues all year long.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Shout out to the NFC South trying to find the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: first team to win eight games to win their division
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: and have a losing record once again for the playoffs
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: just to make me lose my mind.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: It was a tough watch. Some of those were tough
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: watches for sure.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: NFC South is down a little bit.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: They might be. I don't know. I mean, the Saints
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: kind of did their thing a little bit against the Lions,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: just couldn't finish it.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: Well, they should have tied. They should have taken the tie.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: I appreciate going for two, though.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Nobody likes a tie.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: In week 17, I guarantee you they're going to want
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: that tie.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: They are. They're going to want it back. But I'm
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: all for going for two. I don't like ties, and
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm a little Liam Cohen in that regard.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: I would want to go for two. When they're 8-8-1.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Are they going to win the division or not? You
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: know what?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: They might. That division.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: Another weird quarterback situation in Minnesota. Kyler Murray was named
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: the starter. He got hurt. Obviously, he had to go out.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: Carson Wentz comes in, and then he's just throwing it
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: up all over the place. Austin, you watched that game.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. He threw a long touchdown pass on a
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: free play. I usually say they don't count because there's
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: no risk involved with it. So he got a free play.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: Then he threw one of those touchdown passes to Jefferson
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: on one of those little easy flick plays where he
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: came in motion and nobody.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: Went with him. Just let Jefferson go.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: And so it was okay. That's a great choke job
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: by the Packers. They had no business losing that game.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: Think about this.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: Did you see it, Austin? Yeah, of course. They were
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: up 22-17.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: They had a fourth and six or fourth and five
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: and a half. Kicked a field goal to go up
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: eight in the fourth quarter. They're off sides. He decides
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: to take the points off the board and go for it.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: Gets stuffed on a quarterback's knee. They never scored again.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Whole game changed.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: The Vikings get dumb move by LeFleur. Really dumb move.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Whole game changed right there. Not taking the points.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: What happened? Did J.J. McCarthy not play in Minnesota?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: No, they hate him. No, he's the serve keeper.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: They're over it?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: But he's going to have to be the backup now
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: because Murray had a concussion, so we don't know how
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: long he's going to be out.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: Probably a couple weeks.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: They got a new GM there right now? Yeah, they do.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was going to say. Yeah, he came from Seattle.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, got you.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: Let's look around the AFC South because why not? The
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: Jaguars are solo in first place because everybody lost. And
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: Texans did it in interesting fashion with a fumble at
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: the end of the game against the Bills. That was
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: a back-and-forth affair.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: Well, what happened to the 85 Bears? Because everybody all offseason,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: all we heard about, they're the 85 Bears. Got the
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: greatest defense since the 85 Bears. Nobody's going to score
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: on them. You can't score on them. And all Josh
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: Allen did was go there and light them up.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: And I thought it was really telling, too.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: They ran pretty decent against the Texans, but they went
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: against away from the run and just said, hey. Josh Allen,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: here's DJ Moore.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Go get it. Tossing it up. Crazy.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: And I was okay with that because they protected well,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: and that team needs to give the ball to Josh
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: Allen and let him go.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, Cook led the league in rushing last year.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: I'd rather play Cook getting carries than Josh Allen throwing
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: it all.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: Over the place.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Pete, I feel like the Texans have blamed the offensive
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: line for a long time, but Stroud's decision-making, it's both, right?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: It's a combination. of the two.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: And he actually was okay for little parts of that game.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: But you get the ball in crunch time and you're
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: inside the 20, you can't take two sacks.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: You just can't. You can't take those.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: And so, again, you sit there and you say, okay, well,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: Stroud looks like he's better now. You know, he's getting protected.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: He's got some shots down the field. And then you
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: get into crunch time.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: You can't take... And he turned into who he was, right?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, so... I don't know.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: We'll see. We'll see as the season plays on. But
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: that defense, they were blocked. They got blocked. And when
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: you get blocked, they give up a ton of big plays.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Ravens new head coach blowing out the Colts, went in there,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: handled business. We didn't know necessarily what Baltimore was going
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: to look like, but they looked really good yesterday.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: Well, Lamar Jackson's history on a fast track is– you
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: go look at his numbers on those kind of surfaces,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: he goes nuts. And he went nuts. He went crazy.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: And the Colts couldn't stop him.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: The Colts looked– they took the opening kickoff right down
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: the field, made it 7-0 to the Colts.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: And then from that point on, it was all Ravens.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: They dominated that game.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: So Ravens are going to be a tough out. You know,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: Jacksonville goes there on that Thursday night. That's going to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: be tough. Tough sledding.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: Jets beat the Titans, so the Jets get a win.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: The Titans, I was– Curious if they would. I mean,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: last year was real ugly, so I didn't have overly
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: overconfident hopes, but not great out of the gate just yet.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: Cam Ward looked bad. He looked bad. I mean, he
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: was getting pressured and stuff, but he was leaving clean pockets.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: And I haven't watched the tape, but on the TV games, TV,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: it didn't look good at all. And that's not a
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: great Jets team. It's a better Jets team. But you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: got to be better than that if you're the Titans.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: You know, you get Dable to run the offense. You know,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: you think you're going to fix that thing?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: That was bad.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: They're not good.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: They're not that good, but they also, you know, they...
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Cut out all the seed oils. It takes a couple
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: of weeks for the fat to actually reap the benefits.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: So let's go talk to me about five, six weeks
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: from now in terms of cutting out the seed oil
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: is what this team looks like.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Did you hear about that, Kai?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's going to fix them.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: They took the uncrustables from them and they took their
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: heart with it.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: It's just terrible. How about the Bears putting up a
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: college score, 59 points. I mean, neither of them played defense.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: It was 59, 37, but on fourth, he went for
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: it on fourth and one from his own 21.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And basically he didn't divert it.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: He gave him a touchdown and put it back in
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: the game.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: What you're basically doing is telling your defense, you stick.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: That's what he said. He said, you stink. We're going
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: to score a ton. We don't think you're good enough.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: You stink. We're going to go try and score here.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: And again, at some point, he's got to get out
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: of that habit because he's going to come back and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: really cost them a game.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: But they scored, man. They ran the ball for 270 yards.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, that doesn't happen. And of course, the linebacker
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 6: in the middle of that defense was Devin Lloyd.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Duval DNA in the desert. Cardinals get that 26-14 win. J.P.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: Shadrick on the call. And Dewey Winger with the interception.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't have done it any better.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: I wish we could have heard that call.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: I'll find it for us next week. I'm sure it
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: was a doozy. The Chargers, I feel like, always get
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: the love for no reason. But here, we're seeing it.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: I came up with the Charger ring, I call it.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: Anytime they look like they're ready to.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: Chargering, anytime they look like they're ready to.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Go to real high places, they make some of the
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: dumbest decisions and lose some of the worst games. It's
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: been their way in history.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: If you go back and look at the Chargers, back
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: in the day, they used to be the high-flying Chargers
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: with Dan Fouts, and he'd throw the ball all over
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: the place.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: And you know what? They'd go somewhere. They'd come to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: Miami and win a game in the heat in the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: longest game. Remember that game? It's in history. It's a
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: famous game. And what did they have to do the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: next week? They went to Cincinnati and played in like
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: 30 degrees below and they couldn't throw the ball.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: Something always happens to that team. It's called chargering. They
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: either do it or it happens to them.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Pete, real quick, if you're going to start an NFL franchise,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: are you taking Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: Probably John.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: John?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: Probably John.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Probably John at this stage.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: John's not as weird as Jim. Jim's weird.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like Jim's like the quarterback whisperer. Well,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: it wasn't against the Cardinals, I guess, but I feel
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: like he's more of like the offensive friendly guy.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: And let's not forget they also have Mike McDaniel who's
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: supposed to fix the offense too, and the offense was bad.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: He's probably got his cool sneakers on and doing whatever
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: else he's doing. Pete, anything else stand out to you?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: Lions sneak out a win over the Saints. Anything else
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: stick out to you?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if I were the Saints, I would have kicked
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: the extra point and taken my tie. That's what I
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: would have done. Because I think in that division you
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: might need that tie.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: The Bucs turned the ball over a boatload against Cincinnati,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: and that really cost them. One was a three-run for
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: a touchdown. One was Baker Mayfield going in. So the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: Cincinnati defense looked better. And if they're better, that makes
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: that a tougher team. Because they didn't do a lot
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: on offense on Sunday, and they still scored.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: A boatload of points.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: And the Giants pull out a win on Sunday night
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: football against the Cowboys.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: Dallas looked like crap.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: What's up with that? That was your other Super Bowl pick.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: Pickens dropped balls early in that game. Didn't help. Never
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: got into a rhythm.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: And defensively, they had so many missed assignments. And they
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: play young guys on that team, and it's all kind of.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: A new group. But you saw guys open the whole game.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: And then they kept running that little dump off to
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: the back where nobody would get over there at the
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: end of the game, and they couldn't stop them.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I get it's an offensive-driven league, but
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: I do have some concerns with that Cowboys defense. And
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: I get it was more of an assignment than talent,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: I think. But they tore it all down, Pete, to
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: try to fix the problems from last year. They haven't
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: fixed anything. It's the same song and dance right now.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: But again, it's one game, just like the Rams and
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: the Niners. Everybody's burying the Rams.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: It's one.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: The Raiders went to New England last year in week
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: one and beat them.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: And their season went very differently after that, so there's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: still time. All right. Tonight, under the bright lights of
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Arrowhead Stadium, the Denver Broncos take on their division rival,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs. Two quarterbacks coming back from injury,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: looking to lead their team to victory. Bo Nix, Patrick Mahomes,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: who you got?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I'll let Austin go first.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I was trying to avoid that football coming right
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: at me.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Kyle, you got to be careful.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: It's going to hit you right in the head.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: Head on a swivel.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: I know. It's like a punch in the ring.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to take the Broncos out. My son
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: in the other room, he's a big Broncos fan. He's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: a big Oregon fan for Bo Nix.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: All right, we won't count it against him next week.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: Oregon just got beat, and I expect an apology from
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning because my son came home from that game
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: after watching Oregon and got out a soccer ball.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: Apparently, football's not even a thing in the Wayne house.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: He switched sports because Oregon got beat by Oklahoma State,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: but nevertheless, I'm taking the Broncos.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: I'm taking the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs... I can't.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: Wait to see Mahomes. What he's done is incredible. Eight
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: and a half months... He put in so many hours.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was like 10 hours a day, they say,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: at the facility. And I just think he's Jordan. And
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: when Jordan gets back out there and puts the cleats
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: back on, he's Jordan.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: I want to see it again.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: You see him say he was so competitive, he's trying
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: to beat his toddler to walking again when he had
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: his surgery.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to beat my.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Toddler and walk first.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: I love every bit of that. That's the kind of.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: Crazy you need in your quarterback, I think.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: And anytime Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are together, they're
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: going to be in games. Now they are starting a,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: they are starting an undrafted free agent at left tackle tonight.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: So that is concerning against Nick Benito.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: The chiefs to me are like some of those Patriots
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: teams where they didn't even have a ton of time.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: They find a way. They just, they find a way
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: to do it. And they're, they're so good. They can
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: figure things out on the fly.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, they got
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: young talent on defense though.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of good young talent on defense. Our
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: Mason Thomas, keep an eye on, remember the name tonight.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: He might have his coming out party.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Kyle.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: If you have the quarterback and you have the coach,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: you always got a chance to do something special. And
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: they got both those there in Kansas City.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: You can figure everything else out. I don't know who's
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: going to win, but I hope Denver does because I
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: want them both to be 1-0 going in.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Storylines.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: Set things up for next week.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: Because if they lose, they'll be much more focused than
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: if they win.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: That's just the nature of the beast, don't you think?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think. Yeah, but once again, it's a short week.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: I think if Denver wins, they're still going to remember
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: They're still pissed about last year.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: They're still going to be pissed off.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: Coming off a short week kind of negates the fact
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: that Jacksonville has to go all the way out there
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: and play them a little bit.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: It does equal things out in terms of travel, I think,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: because Monday night football always makes it tougher to prep
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: once you get back in the building, kind of lose
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: that day off. All right. That was Jaguars happy hour.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Pete. Awesome.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: Anybody lock in this week? Anybody lock in anything?
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: I'm going to lock it on the way out. I'll
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: lock it on the way out.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: Winning mile high.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: We'll see you next week on Happy Hour.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: Okay.