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10/7/26 | Don't Say They're Somali, David Zimmer and John Phelan Join · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

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  SPEAKER_12: Today is today.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_12: And yesterday was today yesterday.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_12: Tomorrow will be today tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_12: So live today.
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  SPEAKER_12: So the future today will be as the past today as it is tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_33: The best part of the wagon is going to try.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_29: Hey guys, Brandon Country Girls again.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_29: Um just wanted uh remind everyone, 629 this morning, three years ago, a horrific attack took place in Israel, um, killing over a thousand innocent people that were just everything out and have a good time.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_29: Um just to really really bring in our own personal stuff.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_29: You know, we just have the anniversary of 9-11 and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_29: So we can continue to memorialize these people that were lost during the horrific attacks and yet build a better community for us in the United States, and especially here in Minnesota, where we so greatly need accountability, employee, and real leadership.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_29: Great show so far.
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  SPEAKER_29: Have a great Wednesday.
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  SPEAKER_06: Brandon, hear, here.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_06: I'll give you a hear here, and I'll give you an ad.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_06: So where do we start?
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_06: I got a lot of different options this morning.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_06: It's Wednesday, it's the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_06: I've been up since 1.45 in the morning.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_06: So I even the mini leaf night gummies at this moment couldn't help me.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_06: I got up, I ended up going on Fox News last night.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_06: I'll share with you uh the audio from the from the hit.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_06: It's pretty it's pretty quick.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_06: That in and of itself was an a a whole project that we can we can talk about.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_06: So that was that was that was an entire day's w uh ordeal, all things being relative.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_06: So went on last night uh to talk with Laura Ingram about uh Noah's Ark.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_06: No, it was about the Somali gang uh problem.
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  SPEAKER_06: So uh I was buzzing a little bit when I went to bed last night, uh just going off of that, uh, off of that hit.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_06: And I thought it went okay.
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  SPEAKER_06: You can check it out.
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  SPEAKER_06: You can check it out here uh here in just a moment.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_06: I ended up having to do it from home, and I'll get into that coming up in a bit.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_06: So uh at one point I woke up, actually, I'd slept through.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_06: I'd slept through until uh until 1.45.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_06: And as I got back into bed, my stupid brain got it got an idea, and then I and then I couldn't and I couldn't let it go.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, gosh darn it.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_06: Now it just the creative juices are flowing and for as hard as I tried.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_06: I ended up lying in bed.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_06: I think I fell back asleep for maybe like, I don't know, 20, maybe, maybe 15, 20 minutes.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_06: Uh ended up waking, and then I ended up uh waking up uh after that.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_06: That is thanks to the nightgummies from uh from Mini Leaf that I was even able to fall back asleep for any short uh period of time.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_06: So I will share with you uh my inspiration coming up uh here uh shortly uh on the show.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_06: I'll share with you that Fox News hit.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh we do have a lot to talk about today.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_06: Uh more information regarding uh the Somali gang uh issue.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_06: Uh there are concerns about stereotyping.
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  SPEAKER_06: I will be addressing those concerns in a very creative way.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_06: You know, liberals, they use, you know, song to protest often.
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  SPEAKER_06: They're really bad at it, though.
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  SPEAKER_06: They really, really are bad at it.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm trying to take it back here on the show.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_06: I'm trying to grab on to the power of song and lyrics, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: To go and make political points and to spread common sense and rational commentary, but I'm doing it in a better way than the those that go out there beating drums and doing chants.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_06: And so for you early listeners to the show, you'll get a preview of this.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm not gonna uh I'm not gonna make you uh I'm not gonna make you wait.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_06: We also got mail, so we're gonna read some mail coming up.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_06: You never know what you're gonna get with mail when it comes in.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_06: I never know.
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  SPEAKER_06: Somebody, because that's different.
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  SPEAKER_06: Somebody goes and takes the time to sit down and actually write.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, this is a writ if you're watching on the on the you can see right here, look at that.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_06: You can see it right here.
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  SPEAKER_06: They actually took the time, paper the whole nine yards, wrote me a letter.
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  SPEAKER_06: So I took the time to read it this morning, and I am glad, I am glad that I uh that I did.
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  SPEAKER_06: So we'll share that with you uh coming up here in uh just a moment.
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  SPEAKER_06: Remember, you can listen to the show live on the Mix LR app.
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  SPEAKER_06: You can also uh watch the show on my uh X feed, you can watch it on Facebook and uh YouTube as well.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_06: And the podcasts are always loaded uh after the show in case you missed any portion of the show at any point uh during the day.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_06: So let's go ahead and uh we'll start here, though.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_06: Um I have not had a chance to listen to this yet.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh this came in uh overnight, uh came in at 1149 p.m.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_06: last night to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_06: I've read the transcript, but um, you know, often uh the program that I use has uh difficulty.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh and so because of that, I'm I couldn't really figure out what it was they were saying.
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  SPEAKER_06: So let's find out together here on a Wednesday and the John Justice show.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_24: Hey, John DJ.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_24: D.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_24: As in dog J.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_24: I'm not a well, I won't go there.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_24: Anyways, you called me something else, but the name is D.
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  SPEAKER_24: J.
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  SPEAKER_24: from St.
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  SPEAKER_24: Michael.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay, DJ.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_24: Your commentary catching up on the show here this evening.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_24: Your commentary about Michelle Tefoya having John Toon John Thune, the ballless rhino.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_24: I don't I don't quite understand why that's a John Toon sucks.
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  SPEAKER_24: Money can only help the baby killer Michelle Tafoya.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_05: Hmm, okay, there we go.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_24: Now we're getting to some kind of strange argument for not giving her money.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_24: She's doing good.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_24: But it would only help if there's actually a chance to turn a seat red in Minnesota if every penny should be poured into it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_24: I will not give the baby killer a health away a penny.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_24: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_24: I have donated to Lisa Damas.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_24: I can hear her race.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_24: But I don't understand the lack of money being how I didn't work to adjust with only to help, I think.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_06: So um that's what happens when I don't preview uh blasts before I play them on the air.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_06: I felt like, see, I've got all the transcript here, so I know that he had more to to say.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_06: So that's why I was waiting as he was talking.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_06: But as George Lucas uh famously uh said, uh faster, uh more intense, that would be the most helpful uh thing that you could that you could do.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_06: So let me just address for for for for what it's worth uh DJ's comments there.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_06: No, the point was is that as John Thune had said, regardless of how you feel about uh regardless of how you feel about John Thune and what's happened in the Senate.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_06: He came here to town as others have to support Michelle Tefoya, and he mentioned, and he is correct, that this is an incredibly competitive year.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_06: They have a lot of money that needs to be spent.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_06: This would be a pickup here in Minnesota, but there are other seats that they absolutely have to go and defend, given the fact that Michelle Tefoya is all tied up with Penny uh Peggy Flanagan, and more than likely, typically, that means that the GOP candidate is probably leading in the polls.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_06: Then the GOP is trying to figure out where do we best go and spend our dollars at.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_06: And so with that, they've decided listen, we'll show up here to Minnesota in support, we'll fly out, we'll do press conferences, rallies, keep her in the news, because that's what it does.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_06: See, John Thune arriving, regardless of how you feel about him his coming to Minnesota, and I can tell you this firsthand ends up garnering a ton of news.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_06: There was coverage all over the place of John Thune visiting here to support Michelle Tefoya.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_06: That's the point.
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  SPEAKER_06: So the GOP has to spend their money appropriately.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_06: They don't have infinite amounts of cash.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_06: So they're doing what they can to support the campaign to hopefully flip this seat.
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  SPEAKER_06: That's their goal, while at the same time taking their dollars and putting it into those competitive races that they absolutely need to uh hang on to.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so there you so so there you go.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_06: And I learned a lesson.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta make sure that uh you you preview those first.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_06: I think a lot of people thought that the Mixler app was going down because of all the pauses between when he was talking.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_06: So it's that's that's what was going on, guys.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_06: Just wanna I just want to let you know.
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  SPEAKER_06: Also, when it comes to the just a just a little a little point of um point of clarification on this, when you switch, if you are attached to a Wi-Fi and you go to switch and you walk away from the Wi-Fi and it goes to the over L uh over-air LTE network, you know, like you use your phone when you're out in public, you're gonna lose the mix LR feed for a period of time until it goes in resyncs.
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  SPEAKER_06: So I don't know if a lot of people realize that.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_28: Hey John, did you see the footage on uh I think it was Alpha News or Daily Caller?
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_28: It might have been local Fox.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_28: Um Bloomington, the same night as this last Eden Prairie, Bloomington had a shooting.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_28: They had ring video footage of it.
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  SPEAKER_28: And then uh I I'm almost positive Alpha News, Bloomington Please was on talking about um the problem with the Somali games is that they're not like the games of the 80s and 90s.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_28: Something about they're uh they're not looking for drugs, they're not looking for money, they're not looking for power, they're beefing over social media views and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_28: They come from well-to-do families and buying guns legally and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_28: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_28: I don't know if you saw it, just wanted to let you know.
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  SPEAKER_28: Have a good day.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_28: Hey, it's uh 519.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_28: Great shows remark.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_28: Talk to you later.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_06: Um, yes, no, I did see it, and we actually have the audio to share with you coming up uh next hour.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_06: So, as a further preview of the show today, I feel like I gotta get the momentum going here.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like DJ just ground everything to a screeching halt.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_06: So uh on the show today, uh our um policy fellow who covers crime here in Minnesota, David Zimmer, will be joining us on the comfy sofa uh coming up in studio at 7:30.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_06: And then we're gonna have John Phelan, our economist, here at the Center of the American Experiment.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_06: He will be taking a seat.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_06: On the comfy sofa in the studio, we're gonna talk about how the uh former attorney, uh former state's attorney uh reiterates the billions of dollars that has been stolen via fraud here in Minnesota.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_06: We're also gonna talk about the DFL's plans relating to uh taxes as well.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_06: So we'll have that audio of the Bloomington police chief uh coming up a little bit later on this morning.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_29: Okay, D as in dog Jay.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_28: Shut up.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_29: Michelle Tafoya has the best chance of beating Petty Flanagan.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_29: Um get on board and stick with the candidates that are gonna make the change.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_29: Come on, dude.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_29: Great show so far.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_06: So hopefully he catches up with the podcast because I'm pretty sure that DJ is probably still passed out right now.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_06: That would be that would be my that would be my guess, is that DJ is probably still uh sleeping.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_06: So as I uh as I mentioned, uh I did do a hit on Fox News last night.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna share that with you in just a little bit, and my creativity that was um inspired by my time talking with Laura Ingram.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_06: We will get more into the Somali gang of violence coming up a little bit uh later on this hour.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_06: I do want to share some mail that I received, though, from uh from overnight.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_06: So I will read to you this letter here in uh just a moment on the John Justice show.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_06: Before I do, though, I want to remember.
• 14:14
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• 14:16
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• 14:22
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• 14:32
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• 14:41
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• 14:45
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• 14:47
  SPEAKER_06: Devin's here, by the way.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_06: Good morning, Devin.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_06: Glad you're here.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so they kind of poof out a little bit, you know, and so it kind of hides the fact that I've lost all the weight.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_06: You know, but I'm walking around the house, I don't care.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm not that vain.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_06: But I walked upstairs and Kyle Kyle went, hey dad.
• 15:00
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• 15:01
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• 15:02
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• 15:03
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  SPEAKER_06: Coming up in just a moment.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_06: I'm going to share with you that letter, my time on Fox News last night, and we'll get back to more of your comments from the Blaster line at 651-964-0295.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_34: You've heard about Education Minnesota, the statewide teachers' union that's affiliated with Randy Weingarten's American Federation of Teachers?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_34: Well, they're at it again.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_34: They have endorsed their slate of candidates in the Eastern Carver County School Board race.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_34: To see whose campaigns Education Minnesota and the local teachers union, the Chaska Education Association, are funding, visit reelectjoeescott.com and check the blog section.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_40: Hi, I'm Joe Scott, and I'm the only conservative on the Eastern Carver County Schools Board.
• 17:04
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• 17:16
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• 17:18
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• 17:23
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• 18:07
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• 18:12
  SPEAKER_06: So I got I walked in this morning and sitting uh here on my uh studio desk was a uh letter.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_06: It came from Mr.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_06: Daniel.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_06: I'll just leave it at Mr.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_06: Daniel.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_06: And again, you never know what you're gonna get, but I always appreciate when people take the time to go old school.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_06: And uh have you ever seen a letter, Devin?
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_06: Is this is this new to you?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_06: Have you seen this before?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_06: You can write on paper and then send messages to people?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_06: I certainly have seen it, not for very long.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_06: So uh I'll just read it to you, verbatim.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_06: You ready?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_06: Uh in the uh summer of 2024, I put a Trump bumper sticker on my Ford truck.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_06: My thoughts were if you don't stand up for your beliefs, who will?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_06: Daniel's right.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_06: That came with the truck being keyed and made more than a few women ask, how could I vote for that doing that thing with my fingers?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_06: Horrible man.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_06: One day I was pushing my uh grocery cart back to the truck and loading the last bag at the Walmart in plain on 65.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_06: Hey, that's our Walmart.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_06: I see a woman step out of her car, her own car, and head straight for me.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_06: Exclamation point.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_06: I thought she's been waiting for me.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_06: Exclamation point.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_06: I'm really gonna get a tongue lashing this time.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_06: She walked up and she shook my hand and said, Thanks for having the courage to have that bumper sticker on your truck.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_06: Next, she said, My husband has a radio program.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe you listen to him.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_06: His name is John Justice.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_06: We talked for a minute and she went on her way.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_06: It was so refreshing to see a woman who was actually proud of her husband.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_06: You are a very lucky man.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_06: I always wanted to share this story with you.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, Dan, I am a very, very lucky woman.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_06: Brings a tear to my eye.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_06: So uh thank you for that.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_06: I know Melinda does that often, and I uh more than appreciate it.
• 20:12
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• 20:49
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• 20:53
  SPEAKER_06: So yesterday, I got a uh I got a text as I was driving home from uh the uh producers for the Laura Ingram show asking if I was available.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_06: And I said, absolutely, I'm available.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_06: I'll get into the further story of what transpired afterwards because the studio we used to use downtown apparently closed, which was shocking, shocking to me considering that everybody used that studio.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_06: One of the last times I was in there, I warmed the seat for Amy Clovishar for crying out loud.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_06: So we ended up having to figure out how to do it uh to do it from home.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_06: But we did.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_06: And uh I had a few minutes to talk with uh Laura about what's been going on here in Minnesota regarding the uh Somali gang problem.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_06: Here is a portion of that hit.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: So banning guns.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Now, where have we heard that before?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: A nice way to deflect the issue of a refusal to assimilate and to import crime in communities, and I know both towns well.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: These are beautiful, wonderful suburbs of Minneapolis, St.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: Paul.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: I have never heard of any crime like this in either place.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: But it's getting worse by the day.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it is, Laura.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up this morning to text messages because one of our staff members was right down the street from where that shooting took place at that gas station where they suspect it was Somali gangs.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_06: And Laura, that was five minutes away from where the high school was.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_06: Community leadership seems more concerned about how people are talking about the Somali gang violence than actually looking to solve the problem.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_06: And the reason they're doing this, it's all political.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_06: The races here, the statewide races in Minnesota, they're all tied up.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_06: The Democrats are flailing over what they're going to do to try to shore up their flagging poll numbers.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_06: This new rash of violence that we're dealing with that the Democrats have caused.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_06: Democrats in Minnesota have fostered a climate that perpetuates not only rampant fraud, but these violent Somali immigrant gangs.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_06: And they're too afraid to tackle the issue because they're too afraid of the impact it's going to have in a few weeks on this election.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_06: High schools are suffering, and our communities are suffering for a lack of calling out what is happening right now, Laura.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_06: So that was a portion of uh my time last night.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_06: If you want to see the uh video, you can head on over to uh my X feed.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_06: I posted it uh this morning.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh always appreciate being able to go on and talk with my good friend uh Laura, Laura Ingram.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_06: So, in light of that, I go to bed, as I mentioned, I wake up and uh I was struck with uh inspiration.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_06: Because as we talked about yesterday on the show, and we'll get into this more uh next hour.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_06: I do have some items to uh talk about this hour, apart from uh the Somali uh gang uh problem that we're dealing with right now when our guests go and join us in the studio.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_06: But as I said, for you early risers, I want to give you a bit of a uh preview.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_06: So I woke up and I was inspired by the fact of part of the commentary that I gave to Laura and what I said yesterday, and that is you have this community leadership that is more concerned about talking, how people are talking about the issue than they are about tackling the issue.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_06: No, I'm I'm happy to see that we have task force forces that are being convened.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, we have the commentary from the Bloomington police chief, we have uh Ramsey uh police, uh Bob Fletcher.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_06: We'll get into his comments next hour as well.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_06: Be that as it may, uh, you know, like I said, I was I was inspired.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_06: So I decided, you know what?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_06: Let's do a little yacht rock.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_06: Talk about our problems that we're faced with, and provide a little bit of clarity here on the John Justice show by American experiment.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_06: Sad Milkshake Weekend.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_06: Don't dare say that they're Somali.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_06: Like, how can you get mad at that?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_06: Like, that's what I'm like, I think you know, there's come those circumstances where people like you want to get offended.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_06: But at the same time, you go, yeah, but it's such a smooth, smooth jam.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_06: If you uh head on over to my X feed, I actually uh put up a little video clip, a little uh lyric video for Don't Dare Say It That There, Somali.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_06: You can uh check that out again at uh at John Justice J-O-N on uh X.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: All right, John, you did it again.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_31: This new one above those who must not be named.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_31: That is a banger.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_31: Toad happened all the way out the door this morning.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_31: Thank you, John.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_31: Bye.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_06: Well, thank you guys uh for listening early to the show.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_06: You get the bone, you get the benefit.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_06: You get the benefit of hearing it first before everybody ends up arriving right around uh seven o'clock this morning.
• 28:51
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• 28:57
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• 29:04
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• 29:06
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• 29:20
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• 29:22
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• 29:24
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• 29:31
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• 29:32
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• 29:37
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• 29:39
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• 29:43
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• 29:45
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let's get caught up on some news uh from uh overnight.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the Twin Cities marathon ended in frustration.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_06: You a runner, Devin?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: You have a runner, you're tall and you have a runner's physique, if you don't mind my saying.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_06: So I would not have been.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_06: Do you jog?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_06: No?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_06: I've never been a long distance person.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_06: Basketball?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, there you go.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_06: That's my thing.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_06: Knew I had to, yeah, and had to land.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_06: And you were fit for fit and tall for a reason, my friend.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_06: So uh the Twin Cities marathon ended in frustration for a lot of individual confusions for dozens of runners and spectators who discovered their vehicles were towed from the old Sears parking lot near the finish line on Sunday.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_06: The Minnesota Star Tribune uh detailed the episode, which funneled the dozens of upset runners to Guardian Recovery Services and their lot on Randall Avenue to retrieve their cars after the marathon.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_06: One woman told the newspaper she had to pay almost 400 bucks in cash to get her car back.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_06: Ended up costing her even more due to the transaction fees charged on the by the on-site ATM.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_06: Now, the Rondo Community Land Trust, Rondo CLT, which owns the old Sears parking lot, said in a statement that it wasn't aware that the site was being used for marathon parking or that the cars were being towed during the event.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_06: Like if you So who called and who didn't stop to realize that everybody had parked there for the marathon?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_06: Now, according to Rondo CLT, it did not charge higher rates or change any parking rules or operations because of the marathon.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_06: The organization also said it receives no financial benefit from towing fees, but leaders have decided to end their relationship with the towing company based on the recent situation.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_06: Event organizers did not contact us before or during the event, and we were not contacted by the towing company.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_06: Any special circumstances relating to the event, the organization said.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_06: You know, maybe they just thought it was a bunch of, you know, carjackers that have dumped their cars there.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's what it was.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_06: The organization concluded uh and continue that the uh future events will they'll welcome organizers, community groups, and partners to reach out to us in advance so we can work together on parking access, site expectations to help avoid situations like this in the uh in the future.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_06: That'd be with uh anything with my car.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_06: I I just like having my car towed, I would be furious if that were to be the if that were to be the case.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_06: I can only I can only imagine how frustrating that must have been for the uh for the runners.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_33: Don, I love that song.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_33: My only issue is that you blew the post.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_05: Have a good day.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_05: You're 100% correct.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_06: I totally blew the post on that song.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_06: I was so close to.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, in my defense, I had only heard it maybe three times before I before I played it.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_06: I think.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_06: So I was I was awfully close.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_06: By the way, for those that don't know what it what she's talking about, uh post is when you talk up a song and you stop talking right before the lyrics start.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_06: Um I'm pretty good at it just from my years of doing of doing rock radio.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_06: You know, and when you're in radio and you hit the post, it feels really good.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_06: You get a you get a nice solid dopamine hit, right?
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_06: It's just like, yeah, I hit that post.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_06: Postmaster general.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, unfortunately.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't get that feeling this morning because I screwed it up.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I'll try again a little bit later on when I play it.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, from the New York Post, a drunken woman allegedly rubbed passengers the wrong way when she took off her pants and then began, oh, goodness gracious, began a little party of one on a flight from Baltimore to Miami last month.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_06: Katie Inzer, 46 years old, committed a lewd act shortly after takeoff on the American Airlines evening flight on September 11th.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, of all days, for crying out loud.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_06: A fellow passenger had complained to the flight attendant that Enzer had removed her pants and began to actively get busy while making inappropriate sounds.
• 33:58
  unknown: St.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_06: Paul Mayor coolie her can relate.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_06: You know, maybe this woman was just fingering it out.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, figuring it out.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_06: Sorry, that's the slip of the tongue there.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_06: When approached by the attendant, Inzer stopped, according to the New York Post article, beating her in the bush, she put her pants back on and fell asleep for the remainder of the flight.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_06: I think maybe she was successful in her endeavor.
• 34:28
  unknown: Perhaps.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, let's see.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, when officers approached Inzer in Florida, they noted that she had the strong odor of alcohol, bloodshot eyes, and did not remember the alleged sexual misconduct because she fell asleep, the report said.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_06: The incident was first reported by the smoking gun.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_06: That website's still around, which noted that the case was forwarded to the FBI because the jurisdiction of the alleged offense was unclear.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_06: The post had reached out to the feds for an update a week before Enzer's alleged mile-high rub.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_06: See when they did their ass.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_06: It was clever.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's right.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_06: You know, she was just exhibiting some of that uh they fem energy.
• 35:10
  unknown: They fem energy.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_06: The U.S.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_06: Department of Transportation urges anyone who observes sexual misconduct on a plane to report the incident promptly to the flight crew or law enforcement at uh uh the destination.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_06: Last year, the FBI said it investigated 104 incidents of sexual assault and misconduct on board commercial aircraft in 2024.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just too I don't like flying, so I'm too terrified to be doing anything like that.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_06: I think Jesse Kelly went for the uh went for the win on that one, and he said uh he posted the story.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's actually where I found it online yesterday.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_06: Um my friend Jesse Kelly, he posted the story and said um that uh he never sits next to uh anybody interesting on a flight.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_06: So he was very disappointed by that.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_06: I think I'm I think I'm good though.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let's get uh back to some of your uh comments from the blaster line this morning.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_26: Yeah, the song is awesome.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_26: Love it in relation to that.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_26: Let's just in the phase of it after the phrase that the Tamale community is the fabric of our community.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_26: The fabric of our community is the one that has built the community, that has put in the time and the effort to use that fabric to build something great.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_26: The finales have been here for the communities were built long, long before the tamales showed up.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_26: And now the thing tamales are shooting holds in that fabric.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_26: So let's get a grip.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_26: I want to see positiveness, I want to see assimilation from the Somali community, but I'm not seeing any of it.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_26: I know.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_26: I really wish I could.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_26: But I can't.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_26: Show me some of it.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_26: Yeah.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_26: And the left can't even give me any example.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, the fabric, this whole the whole idea, and and this is not me pushing back on the comment at all.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I appreciate the inspiration.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_06: But this whole the the terminology, I I'm just I'm so sick and tired of all this terminology that gets thrown around that it's it's just all meaningless.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_06: So often it's just designed to deflect away from the from the issue or to provide um relevance to a particular controversy for one side.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_06: The whole fabric of our community.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_06: It's just it's meaningless.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's just the community, it's just society.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_06: That's all that it is.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_06: And again, this is not against at all what he's what he's saying there.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_06: I completely understand what he is what he is saying.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_06: But it is just the community.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_06: There is no fabric apart.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_06: We are all a part of this community.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_06: We should all be following the laws as they are as they are laid out.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_06: We should understand the foundations and the pillars of this country, what our values are, what you do in the privacy of your own home, what you teach your children, what you go, and you know, whatever religion you follow.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_06: That's all that's all up to you.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_06: However, you live your life personally.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_06: All right, that's your decision.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_06: That being said, you do need to understand that the United States of America is great because of everything that came before it.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_06: And that shouldn't be changed.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_06: We have individual laws, we change those, we morph them depending on the needs of the community.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_06: But unfortunately, we've been so welcoming as a country that we've reached a level where we've become too welcoming.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_06: And we've seen what happens in other countries that are too welcoming, that end up ignoring.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_06: And we had it happen here in the United States and end up ignoring the immigration laws and just allowing individuals to flood in who have no respect, who have no desire to better their lives by taking advantage and adopting everything that America has to has to offer.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_06: And how hard would that be?
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_06: How hard would it be for community leaders in any it doesn't you know?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not even even specifically pointing to the Somali community.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying most other immigrant communities have done what a portion of the Somali community has failed to go and do.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_06: You don't see the rampant fraud coming out of different immigrant groups.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_06: We had some great talkbacks about this yesterday on the show.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_06: If you missed it, be sure to check out the uh the podcast.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_06: You don't see these issues.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_06: No, this there is a very specific issue tied to a portion of this community that needs to be specifically addressed.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_06: And that's what's happening now.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_06: There's so there's so much to compare when it comes to the fraud and what's taken place.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_06: The comments that I had on Laura Ingram last night, just to sort of dovetail off of that, the mechanisms and the turning a blind eye to the fraud, the things in this state done by the leftists to enable and allow the fraud to continue at a rampant, exponential pace, costing us pace, costing us billions of dollars, they echo in what we're seeing now in the rising Somali gang violence.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_06: It's the same rationale.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_06: It's not about helping the community, it's not about helping these individuals.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's all about the left trying to take advantage and exploit one particular demographic for their own political gain.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_06: And what you're seeing now is exactly the same thing: a lack of doing something comprehensive.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_06: We'll see what these tasks, uh, these task forces do when we talk about it next hour, and we have David Zimmer, uh, David Zimmer joining us, see what his thoughts are.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_06: But that being said, the initial focus on all of this, which is concern over how people were talking about it, it tells you just how politicized and how fearful the left is that this is going to be damaging to their electoral hopes here in the next few weeks.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_06: All right, so let's go here.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_06: Um I there's a local angle on this that I want to share, but first I need to lay out some of the some of the details that for those that aren't following the controversy at uh Cornell and the Cornell 7.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_06: Earlier this week, Cornell's main administrative building was splashed with graffiti and a glass door was broken overnight as student groups planned a protest over the university uh university's handling of an alleged 2024 fraternity house gang rape that has ignited a firestorm of anger on campus and beyond.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_06: Holes were knocked into one of the administration halls, glass doors, and the walls beside them were marked with red painted messages condemning the patriarchy and the Ivy League school's handling of sexual assaults, news media photos showed, uh showed.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous place where your post-action regret can reframe and remove the personal responsibility of your actions.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_06: A Cornell spokesperson, Kyle Kimball, said in a statement that the university was investigating and that the damaging uh property is not the answer.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_06: Campus uh police referred questions to his office, declined to provide more detail on the incident.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_06: Meanwhile, a roster of student organizations planned a late afternoon Justice for Survivors demonstration to push for changes in the university's process for handling sexual assault complaints and for more punishments connected to the one that followed the party at the Chai Phi fraternity in October of 2024.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_06: So, as I mentioned when I talked about this earlier in the week, um, everybody involved in this situation, they are responsible for their own debauchery and are now paying the price for that debauchery.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_06: The woman identified in court documents as Jane Doe recently sued the university, seven former students and for the fraternity and others.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_06: Her lawsuit said that she became fully incapacitated as fraternity members assaulted her, and that one man sent to others a message inviting them to participate.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_06: Lawyers of the two former students denied they participated in the event.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_06: Attempts by the AP to reach the other men were unsuccessful.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_06: The suit has drawn national attention to what Cornell, its police force, and the local district attorney did after she told campus police in November of 2024 that she can say with 100% confidence I was raped.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_06: However, in the immediate aftermath of what had taken place, there are text messages.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_06: And comments that she made to friends and dormates where she never mentioned rape, where she talked about hooking up with multiple guys, even emailing and texting those multiple guys, talking about how much she enjoyed their time together.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_06: But it's a situation where as time went on and she talked to more people, she began to regret her decision and decided to change her tune and start calling the whole thing rape.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_06: Now you have individuals, the males involved, that are saying that they were raped because they were incapacitated and she went and did stuff to them.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_06: Newly released text messages from the Cornell accuser suggest that she consented to the sexual activity and did not believe a crime had occurred.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_06: However, after being disinvited from a fraternity Halloween party, she claimed that she was assaulted.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_06: Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_06: Retroactively withdrawing her consent.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_06: And that's the dangerous place that we're entering right now.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_06: It's just like Lindsay Clancy.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, she felt bad for it.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_06: She felt bad for what she did.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_06: So we shouldn't hold, you know, oh, she's we're all Lindsay Clancy.
• 45:13
  unknown: Okay.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_06: The slew of text messages from the Cornell accuser have now been released.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_06: And according to this article that I have from the Daily Wire, they have erased all doubt of what happened.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_06: This woman, according to her own statements, consented to deviant sexual activity in a frat house, and after the fact, she firmly believed that no crime had been committed.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_06: She even stated everyone needs to grow up, grow up because sexuality and sex is changing, meaning that she saw her behavior as enlightened, as a feminist expression of her own freedom and empowerment.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_06: Then, not long afterwards, she began experiencing shame and humiliation.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_06: And when the entire campus found out about what she did, she stated that her reputation was destroyed, accused a fraternity member of telling everyone what she had done, and then went and changed her tune to saying that she was raped.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's a horrible story.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_06: With no winners in this whatsoever.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_06: That's the great tragedy in all of this.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_06: There are no winners in any of this situation.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_06: Let's get to a couple of your comments.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_06: There's a local angle on this.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_06: This is why I'm bringing it up on the uh on the show.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_06: I've been hesitant to go down too far down this road.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_06: I'm kind of waiting for the story to continue because it's going to continue to explode and get more attention.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, but because of this local angle, I wanted to bring you some details.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_06: And with that, let's get to uh some of your thoughts from the blaster line at 651-964-0294 here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_26: Oh, graffiti down with the patriarchy with this Cornell thing.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_26: Okay, enough of that crap.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_26: These are the same people that were calling people terrorists who wanted to get uh, you know, cross-dressing men called who called themselves transgenders out of girls' locker rooms because they were raping the girls.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_26: And uh, oh, that was terrible.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_26: How could you do that?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_26: I'm sorry, you invited the patriarchy into the locker room so they could do it, and then you cover up their activities.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_26: And now you're out there with the Cornell thing.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_26: Just go after the criminals.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_22: I mean it cranks me up kind of because now that we're getting more text messages between her and the guy proving that they did nothing wrong.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_22: Where she told them they did nothing wrong.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_22: Like, I don't understand how people can still be like, oh my god, she's a victim.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_22: She actually victimized one of the other guys because he said he was incapacitated and she performed an act on him without consent.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_22: Yep.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_22: He should sue her and Cornell for allowing it to happen.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_06: But see, here but herein lies the problem.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_06: Herein lies the problem, because too many people immediately go and put a situation like this into a political box.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_06: And I have a perfect example of that here in just a moment.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_06: If I had gone and taken a different direction on this story, I guarantee you that what you are about to hear right now would be completely opposite.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_06: But because I'm looking at this with a rational, common sense lens and stating that there are no winners in this story.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_06: She clearly changed her tune.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_06: But these dudes should have known better than hooking up the way that they did, multiple guys at the same time.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_06: It's gross, it's deviant behavior, if they all consented, it doesn't rise to the level of rape.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_06: But again, they also screwed up in this whole thing.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_06: If I had said differently and defended the woman, I guarantee you that what you're about to hear would be the polar opposite.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_06: But because the foes at the show don't like me, and yet they listen to every single moment of everything that I have to say, if they see an opportunity where they can turn the tables on me, regardless of how rational and common sense I am deploying on the show, they're gonna take the opportunity.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_06: Let me stop here really quick.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_06: That's not even I you know, no, I'm not gonna stop.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let you know.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_15: Just for your audience, if a woman drinks or is promiscuous or has sex, uh that doesn't mean she deserves to be gang raped.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_15: All the evidence She wasn't, though.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_06: He's about to say, she's about to say, Mildred's about to say all the evidence, but the evidence actually shows that in the aftermath there were example after example text messages, conversations, where she was I just I just read how she talked about personally saying, I don't know why everybody's making a big deal about this.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_06: This is the new sexuality.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_06: Get over yourself.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_06: But they live in a people like these foes of the show, they live in an alternate universe.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_06: They're so blinded, they're so blinded in their hate.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_06: Again, if I had come to defense of this woman, I guarantee you that Mildred would have been saying completely opposite of what they're saying right now.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_15: This points to that she said no and she was brutally, brutally raped.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_15: The rape kit was She didn't say no.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, you know what?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not playing your garbage anymore.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_06: It's such a colossal waste of time.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_06: She didn't even say she sent texts.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_06: One of the guys texted her and said, Hey, sorry the way things went down last night.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_06: We were all drunk.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_06: They were doing, they were all, they were on ketamine, they were drinking, they were smoking out.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_06: And she texted him back and said, No, it's all good.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_06: I really enjoyed being with you and whatever the other guy's name was.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_06: So, no, I'm not wasting any more time on this ridiculous clickbait.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_06: The whole reason why I brought this up, St.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_06: Paul's Highland Park Senior High School has canceled a planned visit from a Cornell University recruiter this week amid the pushback due to the ongoing national controversy over the rape allegations against the fraternity members at the Ivy League.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_06: What a ridiculous thing to do.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_06: This incident has only to do with the individuals involved and not anything greater when it comes to the university of Cornell University.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's got nothing to do with the university itself.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_06: This is happening on college campuses all over the place.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_06: This type of behavior is happening all over the place.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_06: And you watch this story as it gains more attention, you're going to see similar circumstances where you had men and women hooking up consensually, maybe multiple times, for as deviant of behavior as it is.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_06: And in hindsight, they're going to be coming back, and these women are going to be coming back and trying to take advantage of what's happening here because of where we are right now.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_06: The Me Too movement did not go away.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_06: It's just morphed and changed, and now it's back in all of these different circumstances that we have been sharing on the show over the course of the past couple of weeks.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_20: Hey, John, to your point about Lindsay Clancy.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_20: I think those young men at Cornell, clearly, they were just overtaken by their hormones.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_20: Hormones is just a very strong thing, you know, and they can't be held responsible for their actions.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_20: Just like Lindsay Clancy.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_20: Have a great day.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_20: Bye now.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, use the same logic.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_06: Hans is absolutely right.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_06: Turn the tables on the whole thing.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_06: The whole story is sad.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_06: That's the part of this.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not defending these dudes.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_06: These dudes acted completely inappropriately.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_06: What a bunch of morons.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_06: But it's another great example of where society is right now in certain circumstances.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_06: You know, when you don't align yourself with something beyond you, you can rationalize every anything.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_06: If you think that when you die, that's it, it's over or you're done.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_06: If you think if that's the case, and if you do, that's fine.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_06: You know, you can have your you can have your opinion.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_06: We can agree to disagree.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_06: It's all good.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_06: But if you think that when you die, that's it, it's over, and then just everything goes black, okay, done.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_06: Then you can kind of justify however you want to go and live your live your life while you're here.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_06: Why not have the best time all the time you can possibly have?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_06: This is the reason why.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_06: This is why.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, let's get back to some of your uh thoughts on the blaster line 651 964 uh 02 uh 94, and let's go here.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_25: Good morning, John aftermath of Allen.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_25: It's amazing how the left, when a person voluntarily goes somewhere, does something that's deviant, then blames everybody else involved in the deviancy.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_25: That they can claim that that's the moral high ground.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_25: It's really bad.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_06: But thank you so much uh for the uh for the comment.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_26: I'm confused about this whole thing because whether it's Mildred or whoever it is, the left is the champion of deviant sexual behavior.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_26: But then something like this comes up and you are going full force defending the the woman and what happened and misrepresenting facts and yada yada yada.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_26: You're the people that champion every deviant sexual act that is out there, and you defend it to the nth degree.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_26: What's up with you people?
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_06: Let's get to uh some of your uh texts that have rolled into the blaster line.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Chad from Anoka says, Does Mildred even listen to facts?
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_06: They're proof that the left only talk about what supports their narrative.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_06: Just stop playing them.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_06: Doesn't bring anything to the show and they will go away.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, they're not going away.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, trust me.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, I you have no idea how many uh different uh blasts that I get on a uh daily basis from uh Mildred and I don't play for you.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_06: Because I'm convinced they're just a clickbait.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_06: And if they are if they are legitimately that irrational, uh then I holy cow.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_06: Just wow.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-02 uh 94.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, one more here.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, never mind.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_06: Sorry, I was looking at uh some comments that rolled into the uh blaster line.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_06: I want to know if I wanted to share them.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go here.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna get into uh more of the fallout from the violence that has been taking place in Eden Prairie, also in other parts of the city as well, that we did not get a chance to talk about yesterday.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, before we do, though, right on cue, I saw this story this morning.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_06: Fox 9, feds spent millions stockpiling chemical munitions ahead of Operation Metro Surge.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_06: I knew it was going to happen.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_06: With all this attention about what's been going on with the Somali gang activity, I was just waiting to see which news outlet locally was going to bring forward an Operation Metro Surge story to try to go and change the conversation.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_06: It's like the only thing that the leftists have to run on.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_06: They can't talk about the fraud.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_06: They're stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to this uh Somali gang issue that we're now dealing with because there's a fraud component that ends up getting brought up given the demographics of the community involved in this.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_06: So, some, you know, someone somewhere made a phone call to somebody to get a headline story out to help the Democrats deflect from the recent rash of violence.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_06: And I give you a study by the physician, the physicians for Human Rights Center at the University of California, Berkeley.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_06: So you know that this is quality, a quality study right there.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_06: You got Berkeley, you got physicians, you got human rights, all in the title.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_06: You know it's all thumbs up.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_06: They found the federal agents allegedly misused MK9, a powerful pepper spray, during Operation Metro Surge.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_06: The study documented 44 cases of alleged misuse, including close-range spraying, resulting in injuries such as corneal ulcers, chemical burns, and respiratory issues.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe you shouldn't get in the way of lawful uh law enforcement, perhaps.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_06: Might be a good idea.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_06: The Department of Homeland Security also spent millions on chemical munitions, including MK9, in the lead up to the operation.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and it was money well spent.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_06: You know, it would it may not have been money well spent if uh individuals hadn't gone out and gotten in the way of lawful law enforcement requiring ICE agents to actually go and use the MK9 pepper spray.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_06: All right, we'll give you more details coming up.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna get to more of your thoughts from the blaster line.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_06: That's 651-964-0294.org.
• 59:06
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• 59:10
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• 59:14
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• 59:25
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• 59:32
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna get into uh nearly 100 evidence markers found after Somali gang-related shooting in Bloomington.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_06: Bloomington police chief says uh Somali American gang activity is funneled by a social media beef.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_06: Also, David Zimmer.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, he uh covers crime here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, policy fellow.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_06: He'll be joining us on the comfy couch coming up just after the uh the bottom of the hour this morning.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_06: Right now, Fox 9 doing their best to uh help the left to keep Operation Metro Surge in the news.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_06: A new study by the Physicians for Human Rights Center at the University of California, Berkeley found that federal agents misused chemical munitions during OPMET surge.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_06: MK9 was used heavily in Minneapolis, St.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_06: Paul, Fort Snelling, other locations, 44 documented cases of alleged misuse of the chemical spray.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_06: At least one manufacturer's guideline recommends deploying MK9 from a minimum distance of at least six feet.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_06: These ICE agents, they really should have had their measuring sticks with them so that they could go, okay, hold on, hold on.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_06: I know you're about to assault me because I'm arresting illegal aliens, but just give me a moment.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_06: I need to make sure that I'm six feet away from you before I just I deploy this pepper spray to your face.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_06: So if you just give me a minute, just just hang on.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_06: I I know I know you got stuff to throw.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_06: I know you're spitting on me.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_06: I know you got frozen water bottles, I know you have bottles filled with your urine.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_06: I see all the dimdos.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_06: Just wait, though.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_06: Because I wanna, I wanna I want to fight back because you are obstructing lawful law enforcement.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_06: I just gotta make sure that you're six feet away before I do that, or else the Physicians for Human Rights Center at the University of California, Berkeley is gonna do a study and then tell everybody that I didn't maintain a safe distance.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_06: Because MK9 is more powerful than consumer grade pepper spray and has more volume.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_06: Reminds me of like a conditioner.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_06: It's capable of reaching much further uh distances.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_06: Cell phone video captured uh the moment when Katie's story was sprayed in the face by MK9 by a federal agent in Minneapolis shortly after Alex Predy was shot and killed.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I'm not gonna uh I'm I'm not gonna uh wait to tell you this little detail in case you're curious.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_06: In all of these circumstances in the Fox 9 story, do they tell the story of why these individuals ended up having to face these chemical munitions and other defensive items from immigrations and customs enforcement?
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_06: It is just uh ice bad, ice bad, ice bad.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_06: All of these people, as far as you know, and anybody reading the article, they're just standing around watching what was going on.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_06: They're just shooting it with your cell phones.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's the takeaway from this.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_06: They want you to believe that all these people were just innocent bystanders and that ICE was just walking around just spraying everybody in the face.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_06: The video shows the agent spraying story from a short distance and without a direct audible warning.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_06: What did I tell you?
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_06: Just hold on pepper spray's coming, lady.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_06: It's got a lot of volume.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_06: It's gonna sting really bad.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_06: Hold on, I gotta make sure you're six feet away.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_06: Have you seen the video?
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_06: There's a it's one of my favorite I don't know, it's a meme video, I don't know what you want to call it, but it's one of my favorite videos.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_06: It's a woman uh working for she's a she's a journalist, a reporter, and she's in a vehicle and she's demonstrating how to get yourself loose from an attacker if they happen to gain entry into the backseat of your car.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_06: Have you seen this, Devin?
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_06: Do you know the video?
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_06: I don't believe I have.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_06: So the woman's in the front, she's she's in the driver's seat.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_06: And then they have the camera right facing her, and she's doing her little so listen, if there is an attacker who's in the backseat of your car and you are unaware, and they go to attack you, and then the guy pops up, right, and he goes and puts like a belt around her neck, and the woman keeps talking.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_06: She's like, what you need to do is you need to put two fingers underneath where it is, and then move to the side and lower the seat back so that you can get free and then break free from your attacker.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_06: And you're thinking, well, that's really good advice.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_06: This woman has shared.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody went and did a recreation of the actual event.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_06: It's the most ridiculous thing ever.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_06: Like, like you have the wherewithal and the time.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_06: Like the attacker is just going to sit there in the middle of while they're trying to kill you in your automobile from behind and just wait for you to do all of these parlor tricks to get out from what it is you're you're doing.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_06: That's the expectation that you get from articles uh such as such as this.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, Katie went on to say it was just like pain or something sour.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_06: It's a chemical in your eyes and on your face.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_06: Story's account is more than 100 sworn declarations filed as part of the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota lawsuit against the U.S.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_06: Department of Homeland Security.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_06: You know, if I have any complaint over Operation Metro Surge, and it really isn't even a complaint, it's just in hindsight.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_06: You see, the problem here, and what what the federal government and immigration and customs enforcement is facing now is the fact that we didn't have enough resources to go and deal with all these on-the-street insurrectionists.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_06: Because every single one of these individuals should have been arrested, booked in the jail, charges, and should have gone to a judge or gone to trial.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_06: But we didn't have the resources in order to handle that in the midst of going and, you know, arresting the real rapists, murderers, and thieves that were here illegally.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's the whole reason why ICE was here in the first place.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_06: We didn't have the we didn't have the resources to go and prosecute all these individuals.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_06: So unfortunately, they were all set free if they were even taken into custody.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_06: And you can apply this, I mean, this is so incredibly eerily similar to what we're dealing with right now when it comes to the Somali gang problem.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_06: Because in these stories, one there's what stories account is more than 100 sworn declaration uh filed as part of the ACLU's lawsuits.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_06: And yet they don't go into any detail at all of what these individuals did to come face to face and to Have to face the consequences of trying to obstruct lawful law enforcement from going and doing their jobs.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_24: In socialist countries, humanist countries, you exist the authorities from the lot better in America or a lot better.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_17: I don't know what's more thickening.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_17: The fact that Fox 9 is carrying the water for the DFL and clearly were told that you need to put the story out to distract people.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_17: Or the fact that they keep calling it heifer spray, which is exactly what it is.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_17: They keep calling it MK9.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_17: Ooh, that sounds good.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_17: That sounds very good.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_17: Ooh, that's horrible.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_17: No, it's pepper spray.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_17: It's the same type of heifer spray you find anywhere.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_17: It's just called MK9 because it just happens to be a bigger canister.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_17: That holds you know sprays a little further.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_17: But no, keep calling it MK9, because then people are gonna, oh man, that sounds that sounds like that must be like Nate Palmer.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_17: That must be like Agent Orange.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we'll get a uh we'll get a uh a blast from uh the foes at the show saying, you know, if this had just been MK1 through three, that would have been one thing.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_05: I'd even give you MK7, but this was MK9.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_05: You MAGA people in your MK9.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_06: Sorry, just doing my best worst Mildred impersonation.
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  SPEAKER_26: Yeah, they're worried about quote chemical munitions, end quote.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_26: Yeah, I I think we're in the middle of an insurrection, whatever, but you know who was really heinous is all those uh protesters improperly using those dildos.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_06: I mean it's yeah, and we're gonna stop there because it gets a little graphic after that, and I know we are a streaming show and it's allowed, but I try my best to keep it clean.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_31: Good morning, John.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_31: You know, if only those ICE protesters would have maintained their COVID-era six-foot distancing rules in a super spreader protest event, would the MJ9 have been misused?
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_31: It's their own fault.
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  SPEAKER_31: They didn't follow the science, John.
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  SPEAKER_06: They didn't do it.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's right.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_06: Well, you know, how do you expect any Minnesotans, especially recent graduates, to follow the science when only 26% are even proficient in science?
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, come on, let's uh let's keep our expectations in check.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_06: Hey, speaking of money, the outside investigation into the allegations against St.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_06: Paul Mayor Cooley Her cost the city nearly forty-four thousand dollars.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_06: Forty-four thousand dollars for uh the St.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_06: Paul Mayor Horney Her to put on full display just uh how juvenile she actually is.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_06: That's really what it comes down to.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, ultimately, like I understand the police chief, you know, and Henry Axel's Axel Henry's, you know, complaints here.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_06: I get it, and I think the lawsuit, I'm curious to see how this plays out based off of his if his allegations are true.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_06: But at the end of the day, it really is.
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  SPEAKER_06: This is just an incredibly juvenile woman.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_06: And listen, I'm a juvenile man.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_06: I don't I I got a brand new parody coming up that proves that point here in just a moment that you might not have heard unless you were listening in the first hour of the show.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_06: But I'm also not the mayor of a major, major metropolitan area either.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_06: So the investigation conducted by Resolute Losses uh substantiated the claims, of course, of the inappropriate behavior towards the police department personnel, but found no evidence of sexual harassment towards police chief Axel Henry, which has now brought about the uh lawsuit and a story that we continue to follow with great interest.
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_06: All right, coming up in just a moment.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_06: Somalia gang-related shooting in Bloomington resulted in one injury, nearly one hundred evidence markers found at the scene.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_06: The shooting, believed to have been fueled by social media disputes, involved approximately 100 rounds fired.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_06: A separate shooting in Minneapolis left a man with non-life-threatening injuries after a uh fight broke out.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna bring you some of the audio of the Bloomington police chief, Booker Hodges, uh, coming up in just a few minutes here on the show.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_06: There's also uh another story from uh overnight.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_06: Recent shootings raise concerns over stereotyping.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_06: The recent shootings in Edina, Eden Prairie, and Bloomington involving Somali American gangs have raised concerns about community stereotyping.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_06: So we're gonna uh draw some attention to that.
• 1:10:49
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• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_06: We do we do protest songs better than the left does here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm looking forward to sharing uh this new uh parody coming up on the show in case you haven't heard it yet, if you weren't listening earlier.
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  SPEAKER_26: Over 100 rounds fired in Bloomington in this exchange.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_26: Think about that.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_26: We keep on telling police officers, why don't you shoot the gun out of their hand?
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_26: Why don't you shoot them in the leg to stop them?
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_26: Why do you have to injure them by shooting them in the center mass?
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_26: They do that because there's no guarantee you hit that very narrow target and that round goes somewhere.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_26: No, in this case in Bloomington, there's a hundred rounds going somewhere.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_26: We don't even know where it's going.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_26: There was only one person that was slightly injured.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_26: Where are those rounds going?
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_26: That's what we have to think about.
• 1:19:00
  SPEAKER_26: This is getting stupid.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_26: So if you're gonna be there and think this is a big deal, there's a hundred rounds out there somewhere.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_26: We don't know where they went.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_26: In the homes, in the cars.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_26: Maybe victims we don't even find yet because they went through a window and hit somebody that doesn't have a lot of family members.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_26: We don't know.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's gotten beyond stupid.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_06: Five eyewitness news arrived uh early Tuesday morning, and they saw at least 97 yellow evidence markers on the ground with the bullets next to them.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_06: The scene was just a few houses away from an at-home daycare center.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_06: Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher confirmed during a press conference yesterday morning about the shooting, saying that it involved Somali gangs.
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_06: The Bloomington police chief, Booker Hodges, was joined by the Hennepin County Sheriff Dewana Witt, the Edina police chief, and the uh Eden Prairie Police Chief for a press conference on Tuesday to detail the shooting.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_06: Officers believe the gunfire stemmed from Somali gang disputes driven by social media.
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  SPEAKER_06: 100 rounds in our community.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_06: You come to Bloomington, and we are going to find you.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_06: We are going to lock you up, Hodges said to reporters.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_06: I actually have some audio uh to share with you from the uh Bloomington uh police chief.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh first off, uh regarding the over 100 rounds uh that were fired.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_09: They're coming from two parent homes, living in apartment buildings with thirty five hundred dollars a month rent, driving beamers and Mercedes, and all these luxury cars, they when you hit their house, um they don't, they're not dealing with um money, there's no drugs in the house, they're purchasing legal firearms.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_09: So this is not the 1980s, 1990s, 2000 gangs.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_09: These kids are different.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_09: So when I hear people talk about youth programs and all that, that's 2000.
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  SPEAKER_09: When these that's them except for their violent.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_09: These kids have come from good homes and they have money.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_09: They're living in houses that cost more than my mortgage.
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  SPEAKER_09: So they're out here simply shooting each other based on social media beef.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_09: Period.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_09: That's it.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_09: They're not there's no money involved, there's no drugs involved, it's all about social media beef.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_06: There was also some pretty pointed words regarding Hennepin County attorney uh Scary Moriarty, coming from the Bloomington Police Chief.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_10: Emerging adults, yes.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_06: This emerging adults is a terminology that the Hennepin County uh attorney has used uh in the past.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_06: And let me just give you just a quick reminder of what she had to say um a matter of weeks or months ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: There are no roving gangs of Somali people in this community harassing, threatening, doing anything to any of our community members.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_03: And let me repeat that again because I've heard this often.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_03: There are no roving gangs of Somalis targeting or harassing or doing anything inappropriate to any community members.
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Those are simply lies.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_03: It is not true.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that a uh aged poorly.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let me get back to uh the Bloomington police chief's uh comments from yesterday.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_06: And again, the terminology being used by the Hennepin County attorney.
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_10: Emerging adults, yes.
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_09: Um I'm really trying to re-cause I don't want to I I don't want to fight with her.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_09: That's never been my my my goal here.
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_09: But this term that she has, emerging adults, I think is what from 18 to 25, where these people are gonna get special consideration um for prosecution because her terminology, the research, shows that the brain isn't developed yet and whatnot.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_09: Um so yeah, so those people in that age group, they do look at a little bit differently than people who are older.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_09: I have a concern with that because these bullets in my gun don't care if they're fired by an emergent adult.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_09: You know, if your house gets hit by one of these bullets, you ain't gonna care if it's an emergent emerging adult.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_09: And where is I don't know where that term came from.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_09: Um probably someone made it up.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_09: It's a lot smarter than me, but I don't know.
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_09: But I do have an issue with that one.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna be talking with David Zimmer.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh he uh writes issues regarding crime here in Minnesota in the Twin Cities, a policy fellow who will be speaking to him in just a moment with some questions that have rolled into the blaster line that I'm sure that uh David will be able to uh help us uh out with.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's go here before we talk with David Zimmer on the show.
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_35: Hi, John, it's Chris.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_35: I cannot believe that that police chief in Bloomington said the quiet part out loud.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_35: Where do you think all of these gangbangers are getting the money from to drive beamers in Mercedes?
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, geez, let me think.
• 1:23:54
  SPEAKER_35: Could it be a learning center?
• 1:23:57
  SPEAKER_06: Well, and this is why last night on uh on Fox News I was expressing, you know, my frustration uh over this essentially, you know, language policing, more concern about how the issue is being talked about than actually going and addressing the problem and trying to find a solution.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Now, where have we heard that before?
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Nice way to deflect the issue of a refusal to assimilate and to import crime in communities, and I know both towns well.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_02: These are beautiful, wonderful suburbs of Minneapolis, St.
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Paul.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_02: I have never heard of any crime like this in either place, but it's getting worse by the day.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it is, Laura.
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up this morning to text messages because one of our staff members was right down the street from where that shooting took place at that gas station where they suspect it was Somali gangs.
• 1:24:46
  SPEAKER_06: And Laura, that was five minutes away from where the high school was.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_06: Community leadership seems more concerned about how people are talking about the Somali gang violence than actually looking to solve the problem.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_06: And the reason they're doing this, it's all political.
• 1:25:02
  SPEAKER_06: The races here, the statewide races in Minnesota, they're all tied up.
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_06: The Democrats are flailing over what they're gonna do to try to shore up their flagging poll numbers.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_06: This new rash of violence that we're dealing with that the Democrats have caused.
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_06: Democrats in Minnesota have fostered a climate that perpetuates not only rampant fraud, but these violent Somali immigrant gangs.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_06: And they're too afraid to tackle the issue because they're too afraid of the impact it's gonna have in a few weeks on this election.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_06: High schools are suffering, and our communities are suffering for a lack of calling out what is happening right now, Laura.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_06: So uh I was inspired.
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_06: We'll talk with David Zimmer here in just a moment on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
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• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see if we can't uh get to the bottom of uh some of that.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_06: Because I have questions too.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_06: We've invited a policy fellow and covers crime uh safety here in uh the Twin Cities in Minneapolis.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh David Zimmer joins us here on the comfy couch of the Center of the American Experiment studio.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_06: Good morning, David.
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_06: Morning, John.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for uh coming on the show uh this morning.
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_06: So did you have a chance to see what the Bloomington Police Chief uh Booker Hodges had to say yesterday?
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  SPEAKER_06: And I'm curious to get your to get your thoughts.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_36: I did, and he's always refreshing to listen to, isn't he?
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_36: He's uh he speaks the truth, he speaks plainly, and um he doesn't seem to be too concerned with political correctness.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah.
• 1:29:47
  SPEAKER_06: Um He calls it as it is.
• 1:29:49
  SPEAKER_06: He call he he he c he calls it he calls it as it is.
• 1:29:52
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah.
• 1:29:52
  SPEAKER_36: And so does Sheriff Fletcher does uh much the same over in Ramsey.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_06: So can you sort of differentiate here the clips um we played them earlier and the comments that he had yesterday, and I was even talking with my wife Melinda about it too.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_06: This so the police chief had talked about how a lot of these individuals, if they get involved in crime, they're not being charged for certain misdemeanors, and so therefore they're able to go and purchase firearms legally.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_06: There's nothing blocking them.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um but there is the terminology here that sort of is confusing people of referring to certain individuals as kids.
• 1:30:26
  SPEAKER_06: I think a lot of people have a mentality that's people that are under 18.
• 1:30:30
  SPEAKER_06: They're also talking about 15, 16, and 17.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_06: So can you kind of parse that out and uh make some sense of what the police chief and others are saying about the age groups and who's able to go and purchase these firearms?
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_36: Sure.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_36: It's um it's still within uh the courts right now.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_36: Uh there was a a court ruling earlier, I think earlier this year, maybe late last year, that ruled in favor of the the legal age for purchasing and and possessing a firearm to drop down to 18 for Minnesotans.
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_36: But that is being challenged.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_36: Um so it's tied up in appeal.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_36: But during the challenge period, uh as I understand it, uh individual sheriffs can uh can base their uh issuance of permits to purchase and permits to carry based on the 18-year-old uh criteria.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_36: Okay.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_36: So I just looked at the Hennepin County permit uh to carry website, and they're using the 18-year-old uh threshold.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_36: So you at 18 you can apply if you have all the uh prerequisites and the training and you have a clean record, you can apply and receive your permit to carry uh at 18.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_06: So is there just uh you think there's just a a bit of um a bit of confusion because some people will refer to an 18-year-old as a as a kid.
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I think he did that a few times during his press conference yesterday.
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_06: Do you think it's just kind of a confusion in terminology and the way that he is describing the individuals?
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_36: Okay.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_36: It's just not precise language.
• 1:32:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I don't want to get too stuck on that, but I know that's caused some confusion for uh for people.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_06: So let's back let's back up even let's back up even further.
• 1:32:18
  SPEAKER_06: We had this event that took place.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_06: You have a new piece up at AmericanExperiment.org that I uh encourage everybody to go and uh and check out.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_06: Community frustration mounts over the Somali youth violence.
• 1:32:29
  SPEAKER_06: And in it, uh David, you cover uh the community meeting that took place.
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_06: We have some audio that we'll share a little bit uh later on in the show uh from those in the community that were speaking up on this, uh also talking about how and what steps we can take for action.
• 1:32:43
  SPEAKER_06: But let's back up further.
• 1:32:44
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, with your experience, your your prior experience in in law enforcement, um, based off of what had taken place at the high school on Friday, like what was your own instinctive reaction to that?
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, specifically when you began to hear, we began to hear that this was more than likely involving uh Somali gangs.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_06: So what were your what were your thoughts when you first saw the story?
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_36: You know, I it it brought me back to uh my days as an officer or as a deputy or as a commander, where I was in charge of uh securing a large event.
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_36: And that is it's very complicated.
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_36: And the payoff is if just nothing happens.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_36: You know, that's your reward is that nothing happens.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_36: And um, so I remember how challenging securing a large event could be.
• 1:33:33
  SPEAKER_36: And um yeah, I've been to large football games here in the metro area.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_36: I live down in Lakeville.
• 1:33:40
  SPEAKER_36: They'll regularly get uh 5,000 people at a game on the campus, and it is a challenge uh to prevent something like what occurred last Friday in Eden Prairie, um, especially with the the norm of what resources are put towards a uh securing a high school football game.
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_36: In the past, we haven't had to uh you know uh invest a great deal of resources.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_36: You have a few officers walking through the crowd and some community service officers and such.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_36: I think that's going to change going forward here.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_36: I think this Friday night's going you're gonna see a real robust presence of law enforcement throughout the metro at all these games.
• 1:34:25
  SPEAKER_06: We you may or may not know.
• 1:34:27
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just curious.
• 1:34:28
  SPEAKER_06: Was there do we know if there was any prior expectation that there would be violence at this game on Friday, wherein there would have been more law enforcement there?
• 1:34:38
  SPEAKER_06: Or do you think it was just a matter of, you know, they weren't aware and this whole thing erupted and chaos ensued?
• 1:34:43
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah, I'm not aware that they had any pre-knowledge of what was going on.
• 1:34:48
  SPEAKER_36: Um, but that might come out.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_36: Uh, I know, you know, we have robust intelligence units out watching social media now, and there has been some talk that a lot of this violence is being, you know, it's been being talked about in advance on social media.
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_36: That's how they got on to the potential problems that would have ensued at the state fair and were able to prevent that.
• 1:35:13
  SPEAKER_36: Um, but I haven't heard specifically that law enforcement knew in advance so that there would be a problem in Eden Prairie.
• 1:35:20
  SPEAKER_06: I had to imagine that it's a lot more difficult.
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_06: One, if it's an unexpected situation that you need to go, that law enforcement needs to go and and um get involved in.
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_06: And then two, I imagine this it being on a campus and then also a public event just adds layer upon layer upon layer of difficulty, correct?
• 1:35:42
  SPEAKER_36: Right.
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_36: And that's how you approach a situation like that is through layers of security.
• 1:35:48
  SPEAKER_36: You have officers several blocks away, um, kind of monitoring traffic coming in and showing a police presence uh blocks away.
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_36: And then maybe at the parking lot, you have officers uh visually present and watching cars and watching out for potential problems, and then you have uh perhaps turnstiles or something as you get closer to the stadium, and then even a more robust layer of security to get into the stadium.
• 1:36:21
  SPEAKER_36: And so that's how you approach these things is by establishing layers of security that tend to deter people from uh you know committing violence.
• 1:36:32
  SPEAKER_06: The Bloomington police chief um yesterday was talking about how these Somali gangs are different than the gangs that they've dealt with in the in the past.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_06: Um he had specifically mentioned how you know these are not gangbangers that are out there um, you know, dealing in in drugs.
• 1:36:52
  SPEAKER_06: A lot of them, you know, have a lot of money.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_06: And so you're you're looking at a different form of gang activity than we've dealt with in the past.
• 1:37:00
  SPEAKER_06: Is how new how new is this?
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_06: Is this something, is this type of gang banger something that you experienced in the past when you were working in law enforcement?
• 1:37:10
  SPEAKER_36: No, when I was working, it was largely focused on drugs and and drug territory.
• 1:37:16
  SPEAKER_36: That's that's where the gangs were involved.
• 1:37:19
  SPEAKER_36: Um so yeah, this is somewhat new.
• 1:37:22
  SPEAKER_36: This is a more of an affluent group of people that uh like Chief Hodges and others have identified.
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_36: They're really getting into it based on personal beef and you know status and ego and that type of thing.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_06: Well, what kind of difficulties can arise with the with the with the difference?
• 1:37:40
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, it maybe get into you know, how do you go about combating, you know, gang activity in and of itself?
• 1:37:47
  SPEAKER_06: And that's a difficult one to deal with.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um and just a little bit of background on my on my end.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_06: Like I was born and raised in Southern California.
• 1:37:56
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, the height of the Crips and the Bloods and the movies that were made.
• 1:37:59
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I was living right in that area.
• 1:38:01
  SPEAKER_06: And I remember all those conversations way back then of trying to deal with with the gang problems.
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_06: That this seems to be, you know, a whole new facet.
• 1:38:10
  SPEAKER_06: What kind of complications could it potentially bring where old tactics may not have worked before?
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_06: Or are there old tactics that could still be applied in in this sort of new dynamic of gang activity?
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah, I think in the short term you use the tried and true method of you they the police know generally who these groups are and who the members are.
• 1:38:32
  SPEAKER_36: And police on in the short term, police need to make it uncomfortable for those guys.
• 1:38:39
  SPEAKER_36: They need to be the ones who are afraid to leave their house, get in their car with guns, you know, get into beefs out in the in the community or on the freeway or at a football game.
• 1:38:51
  SPEAKER_36: They need to be terrified that if they do that, they're going to jail or going to prison.
• 1:38:57
  SPEAKER_36: Um, that's not happening right now.
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_36: They're very emboldened.
• 1:39:02
  SPEAKER_36: Um, I'm I'm guessing you've shown the video or at least the audio of the Bloomington shots fired Monday night.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_36: I mean, that is that's straight out of third world country.
• 1:39:15
  SPEAKER_36: You just hear this automatic gunfire, and it's in a southern Bloomington neighborhood.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_36: Um, so they are very emboldened right now, and law enforcement in the short term needs to really go on the offensive and make life uncomfortable for these guys.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_36: And there's very it's all legal.
• 1:39:34
  SPEAKER_36: Uh all of these guys have driver licenses that are probably, you know, I'm I'm guessing quite a few of them have driver license issues.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_36: Um maybe some are on conditional release from a previous incident, so they have very strict conditional release criteria that they need need to be following.
• 1:39:57
  SPEAKER_36: Um, some of them probably have petty warrants out for their arrest.
• 1:40:01
  SPEAKER_36: There are legal ways that you can really turn up the heat on groups like this.
• 1:40:06
  SPEAKER_36: Um, and then pretext stops.
• 1:40:09
  SPEAKER_36: I I think a lot of people they've heard that term and they just believe that it's illegal.
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_36: Pretext stops are not illegal, they're an appropriate law enforcement uh technique.
• 1:40:21
  SPEAKER_36: And and you know, for your audience, a pretext stop is using a legal means to stop a vehicle, even though what you're really trying to get at is to prevent you know some sort of violence or you know, search for guns or that kind of thing.
• 1:40:36
  SPEAKER_06: Talking with our policy fellow here at American Experiment at David Zimmer, we've got a couple of uh comments that have come into the blaster line.
• 1:40:42
  SPEAKER_06: Let's get to uh those.
• 1:40:43
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• 1:40:47
  SPEAKER_06: We'll start here.
• 1:40:48
  SPEAKER_33: John, good morning.
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  SPEAKER_33: Can you ask your guest if this is different than um the violence that we've seen at graduation parties or graduation ceremonies, um, even as early as like uh this last spring?
• 1:41:04
  SPEAKER_06: Um Yeah, and I think what she's driving at too, uh, and I'm sure you're aware, is that you know, we've had this these varying degrees of different crimes that have been taking place, and what we're hearing from the from the police chief in Bloomington, it it reminds me a lot of what's happened with fraud.
• 1:41:21
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, the dynamics of the individuals involved in this crime are very much behaving in the same way that the fraudsters were behaving in terms of going out and using the money, not hiding purchases and you know, buying lavish homes or cars or clothing.
• 1:41:36
  SPEAKER_06: And it seems as if these individuals are as well.
• 1:41:38
  SPEAKER_06: But then we also have this violence that's been breaking out at these various other events, graduation parties and ceremonies.
• 1:41:44
  SPEAKER_06: So are we talking about the same group of people or is this a different group of people?
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_36: Well, law enforcement leaders have been pretty clear.
• 1:41:50
  SPEAKER_36: This is all this is all the same.
• 1:41:52
  SPEAKER_36: This is a continuation of uh what we've been seeing.
• 1:41:55
  SPEAKER_36: And unfortunately, now we're into the retaliation phase.
• 1:42:00
  SPEAKER_36: So all of these shootings are because of a shooting that happened last week or a month ago or or whatnot.
• 1:42:07
  SPEAKER_06: Of the gangs of the of the basically the clans of gangs that are that are battling each other.
• 1:42:11
  SPEAKER_36: Right, right.
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_36: I'm kind of landing on click as uh as a that works, yeah, maybe a new term because they're not that traditional gang.
• 1:42:21
  SPEAKER_36: They're more cliques of groups of friends.
• 1:42:24
  SPEAKER_06: So it's interesting, David, because this provides a little bit more perspective as to what happened at the Minnesota State Fair.
• 1:42:32
  SPEAKER_06: I wish that we had had because I'm assuming we're talking about the same group of people.
• 1:42:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 1:42:36
  SPEAKER_06: Like the Muddy and the Ville, we're all talking about the same group of individuals involved in the the same cliques involved in this gang activity.
• 1:42:44
  SPEAKER_06: This information that the police chief provided yesterday, I don't remember hearing at the time when they made this agreement through this lawsuit to keep them off of the Minnesota State Fair, out of the Minnesota State Fair, but it begins to make a little bit more sense now that we, the public, are more aware of the background of the individuals.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's not saying that I am in support of what took place.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_06: I will say that we didn't have the violence at the state fair, but it certainly does provide a little bit more perspective into the difficulties of dealing with groups like this and how do we keep them from getting involved in in gang activity.
• 1:43:18
  SPEAKER_06: Am I am I on a am I on a right trajectory there?
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:43:22
  SPEAKER_36: Um what I'll say about the state fair uh tactic that was used, I I was in support of it, and I wish more people on our side would uh would be a little more open to what took place there.
• 1:43:35
  SPEAKER_36: Um that was uh, in my opinion, a really uh an appropriate and a brilliant use of uh available laws and and methods to prevent violence in the first place.
• 1:43:48
  SPEAKER_36: Um you know they so it's a a little used, a little known law that allowed law enforcement to proactively put these gang members on notice before they committed violence.
• 1:44:02
  SPEAKER_36: Sure.
• 1:44:02
  SPEAKER_36: That if you show up uh you can't associate with one another.
• 1:44:07
  SPEAKER_36: If we see you walking around together, even making eye contact, you know, giving each other the nod anything, you can be arrested for it just for that.
• 1:44:16
  SPEAKER_36: And so that uh that was an appropriate um uh method to prevent violence at the state fair.
• 1:44:25
  SPEAKER_06: There was a comment that came in, and they just asked, did they pay the gangsters not to terrorize the state fair?
• 1:44:29
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think money was exchanged in any of this, right?
• 1:44:32
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:44:32
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I think the fear was, and and I appreciate your perspective because I wasn't that keen on what had taken place.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_06: Now, again, hindsight being 2020, we didn't have violence at the fair.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_06: Um I think my fear was echoed in a lot of the listeners' fears, and that was that we were providing legitimacy to these organizations.
• 1:44:49
  SPEAKER_06: Um let me stop with that first.
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_06: So, to that criticism that, well, by moving forward with these legal means, you're basically establishing, you know, even further the existence of these of these warring cliques of of gangs.
• 1:45:05
  SPEAKER_06: Um uh do you not see it in that in in that way?
• 1:45:09
  SPEAKER_36: Well, I can see the argument.
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_36: And and sure, I'm I'm guessing that there are people within these cliques, within these gangs that are they kind of take some uh pride in that, that oh, hey, we're getting noticed here.
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_36: Um but ultimately the goal is we had a and the outcome was that we had a state fair where you didn't have sure roving gangs shooting at each other or running through the fair assaulting people, that kind of thing.
• 1:45:37
  SPEAKER_06: So I think the other fear was that this was going to be, you know, um something that would be applied in other circumstances.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I don't know how that would be.
• 1:45:45
  SPEAKER_06: This seemed like a very unique situation wherein they could use this particular this particular law, correct, uh David?
• 1:45:51
  SPEAKER_36: Right.
• 1:45:52
  SPEAKER_36: It was uh within a you know short time frame and a small geographical area.
• 1:45:57
  SPEAKER_36: It was very specific to the fair.
• 1:45:59
  SPEAKER_06: So what do we do?
• 1:46:00
  SPEAKER_06: So what do we do now?
• 1:46:01
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, how how do we go about dealing?
• 1:46:04
  SPEAKER_06: Like if you were serving in law enforcement now, um, you know, what would you like to see happen?
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_06: What would you do to combat this new type of gang activity that we are we're currently dealing with?
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_06: Let me add another element to this to this really quick.
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm sorry for that.
• 1:46:20
  SPEAKER_06: It's like I was teeing you up.
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_06: But because I it it sounds to me like there's a wholesale mentality change with this type of with this type of uh individual involved in the gangs as well, based on their background.
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_06: It seems very different than the individual who's out there who is conducting illegal activity, dealing drugs like we've seen typically in the past.
• 1:46:38
  SPEAKER_06: You know, these are individuals that actually have money and with it probably a different mentality as to why they're going about their actions.
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_06: So how do we how do we combat this?
• 1:46:50
  SPEAKER_36: So there is a little bit more of a challenge because when a traditional gang is making their life, you know, making their living by dealing drugs and doing something illegal, you can go after them for that.
• 1:47:03
  SPEAKER_36: You can use that that way of life to prosecute them, to go after them.
• 1:47:09
  SPEAKER_36: Um you can't really do that on social media beefs, right?
• 1:47:14
  SPEAKER_36: You can't but you can be aware of what's going on and you can identify the the people that are most likely involved in this ongoing violence.
• 1:47:24
  SPEAKER_36: And so, in my opinion, it's a multi-layered approach.
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_36: Um, and as a law enforcement official, my layer is the immediacy of getting out and, like I said, making life uncomfortable for these guys.
• 1:47:41
  SPEAKER_36: They cannot feel emboldened to drive around our freeways and shoot at each other.
• 1:47:48
  SPEAKER_36: They can't feel emboldened to go to a high school football game with five to ten thousand people and get in a shootout.
• 1:47:55
  SPEAKER_36: Um, that just has to end.
• 1:47:57
  SPEAKER_36: And then there's more long-term um you know, social issues that need to be addressed.
• 1:48:05
  SPEAKER_36: Um uh, but that's really not on the law enforcement plate.
• 1:48:10
  SPEAKER_06: We had um we had a shooting that took place over near St.
• 1:48:14
  SPEAKER_06: Louis Park on 100.
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_06: I passed by there uh often.
• 1:48:17
  SPEAKER_06: It was a it was uh an altercation between automobiles.
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_06: Is this connected to this as well?
• 1:48:21
  SPEAKER_06: I'm kind of diving up.
• 1:48:23
  SPEAKER_06: It's the same thing.
• 1:48:24
  SPEAKER_36: That's what I'm hearing.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_36: That's what I'm reading.
• 1:48:26
  SPEAKER_06: So there's a couple there's a couple of different things here as we sort of unpack this.
• 1:48:30
  SPEAKER_06: I'm beginning to see the larger picture uh emerge in what we're what we're dealing with.
• 1:48:34
  SPEAKER_06: And again, there's a lot of parallels to what's happened with fraud.
• 1:48:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's almost as if, you know, wherein with the fraud that was taking place, you saw individuals taking advantage of a system and a lack of oversight that allowed this to happen, right?
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_06: Red flags raised, those are ignored.
• 1:48:49
  SPEAKER_06: Only when the issue got so big and it couldn't be ignored anymore, did we start doing anything about it relating to the fraud?
• 1:48:55
  SPEAKER_06: It sounds like when it comes to these um to these gangs, uh, they've been doing something similar.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_06: They're not involved in typical gang activity, therefore it's harder to go and and stop them.
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_06: Um all of it points to sort of the same solution, though, and that I would think would be if there is an individual involved in these gangs and they are involved in any illegal activity whatsoever, we have got to throw the book at these individuals.
• 1:49:20
  SPEAKER_06: We cannot in any way, shape, or form be allowing them to skate by with lower sentences or social justice tactics.
• 1:49:29
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that seems pretty, pretty clear.
• 1:49:30
  SPEAKER_06: What are your what are your thoughts, David Zimmer?
• 1:49:32
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah, I think the system, the the criminal justice system needs to come together and have a unified front on how are we going to uh proceed with this?
• 1:49:43
  SPEAKER_36: Because if it's only the police that are that have a plan and and take any action, but then at the county attorney level or the court level, all that effort just gets thrown away, that's kind of a waste of time.
• 1:49:59
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• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_36: Backup.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_36: It's not a waste.
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_36: Again, the police do need to send a message, and that message would have a really important impact on this whole uh speed of violence that we're seeing.
• 1:50:12
  SPEAKER_36: But again, on the long term, if if people aren't getting charged after they're arrested, or the charges are being downplayed, and then once they go to court, the the courts accepting unacceptable plea bargains, what a waste of time.
• 1:50:30
  SPEAKER_06: Is this recent uptick is there is there something going on?
• 1:50:35
  SPEAKER_06: Do we know if there's is there something going on within these rival gangs right now that is causing this recent uptick?
• 1:50:41
  SPEAKER_06: Because it all seems to have broken out over the course of the past week.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_06: And as we talk about this group, as we talk about their background, the difference from previous gangs, again, there seems to be a narrative forming, and I just want to make sure that I'm forming the right narrative, that the uptick is directly related to the violence between the rival gangs that has also been increasing as of late.
• 1:51:01
  SPEAKER_06: Is there tr is there truth to that?
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_06: Because that's what it's that's what it's sounding like.
• 1:51:05
  SPEAKER_36: This has been going on for years, actually.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_36: And so Ramsey County has kind of been leading the effort, and they have some investigators over there that have focused and become experts on these Somali cliques.
• 1:51:18
  SPEAKER_36: And they're the ones that put, you know, they put pen to paper and uh in 20-page affidavits leading up to the state fair effort.
• 1:51:28
  SPEAKER_36: They documented all of this tit for tat uh violence going back and forth.
• 1:51:33
  SPEAKER_36: So it's been going on for years.
• 1:51:36
  SPEAKER_36: Um at the as your caller noted, um, all of these graduation ceremony shootings and violence that took place this past spring.
• 1:51:46
  SPEAKER_36: It's all related.
• 1:51:47
  SPEAKER_36: Um so I I think that answers your question.
• 1:51:51
  SPEAKER_36: It's not it's not just something that popped up this week.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_36: That's all retaliatory.
• 1:51:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I guess I guess what I guess more of what I was speaking to, and you know, I and you you may not be privy to this, and you know, perhaps individuals in law enforcement, if they want to leave us a message or anonymously, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org or on the blaster line, and we'll get to some of your thoughts coming up in just a moment.
• 1:52:13
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 1:52:16
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just wondering, and I know this has been ongoing for a long time, but I'm wondering as of late, if these these rival gangs have just been increasing their activity amongst each other, which is why we've seen this recent rash.
• 1:52:28
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just wondering if there's something specific that's happened in these groups.
• 1:52:31
  SPEAKER_06: We may or may not know, but that's kind of what it sounds like.
• 1:52:34
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, when you have a shooting that takes place on a freeway, and then it's followed up by a shooting that takes place at a high school, and that's followed up by a shooting that takes place at a gas station, and in the middle of all this, you have the shooting that takes place over in Bloomington.
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_06: If these are all the same factions, then it feels like the the their war, whatever war they're dealing with seems to be ramping up as of late.
• 1:52:52
  SPEAKER_06: At least that's what it that's at least that's what it looks like.
• 1:52:54
  SPEAKER_36: Absolutely.
• 1:52:55
  SPEAKER_36: It is ramping up and it's all retaliatory.
• 1:52:58
  SPEAKER_36: So the within the last few weeks, there's been more and more shootings and more and more uh attempts to retaliate for yesterday's shooting.
• 1:53:07
  SPEAKER_06: Well, and this is, you know, this goes back to my frustration and why I made my my latest goofy parody.
• 1:53:13
  SPEAKER_06: Um to uh and I and you point this out in your article.
• 1:53:17
  SPEAKER_06: I'll just if you don't mind, I'm gonna go ahead and just quote you here.
• 1:53:20
  SPEAKER_06: Um you see some of the messages that have come from elected leaders uh and the and Somalis include uh the violence is gun violence.
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_06: It is dangerous to label what is happening as Somali violence, uh more youth programming and other resources are needed.
• 1:53:34
  SPEAKER_06: You said each of these narratives have some truth, but overall they serve to deflect blame and responsibility from those carrying out the the violence.
• 1:53:42
  SPEAKER_06: And I totally agree.
• 1:53:43
  SPEAKER_06: Um and to the point of talking about the issue and being specific, this is what the public needs to be aware of.
• 1:53:50
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, how are we going to, as the public and the community, be able to identify what's going on and deal with the problems and support whatever efforts are going to be made if we don't have a full understanding of what is taking place?
• 1:54:03
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, just in the middle of the 20 minutes that I've been talking to you, David, I have a completely different perspective on everything that's been happening right now.
• 1:54:08
  SPEAKER_06: And now I'm beginning to see the larger picture.
• 1:54:11
  SPEAKER_06: It's been piecemealed in stories.
• 1:54:13
  SPEAKER_06: I've heard about this retaliatory action going on.
• 1:54:17
  SPEAKER_06: But when you step back and look at the broader picture of rival gangs that have a lot of money, right, that aren't doing other typical types of crime, and there's a war between them that's ratcheting up, it provides a level of perspective that I think the public needs to hear more comprehensively.
• 1:54:34
  SPEAKER_06: And this is just another way to me to push back on individuals saying that, well, you know, we can't talk about what community it is.
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_06: No, we kind of we kind of have to.
• 1:54:42
  SPEAKER_06: There's a way to do it without being offensive.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_36: Absolutely.
• 1:54:45
  SPEAKER_36: Um, that was what I came away from watching the Edina uh city community meeting on Monday night.
• 1:54:54
  SPEAKER_36: Is there were a lot of well-spoken, well-meaning people that came forward from all communities, uh, but a common narrative was emerging, and that is we can't call this Somali violence.
• 1:55:07
  SPEAKER_36: And we have to.
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_36: We have to be able to label where the violence is emanating from.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_36: And then the Somali community, the law-abiding, which I agree is the majority of the Somali community needs to join the larger Minnesota community and and reject the violence and condemn it.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_36: Um we we can't get in our silos here and and protect our individual communities.
• 1:55:35
  SPEAKER_06: You know, the unf the unfortunate truth about that though, though, is um, you know, it like it never happens.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_06: And I've been through these situations.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_06: I was in, like I said, I was in Los Angeles when the you know, when the Rodney King situation happened, uh, when the riots took place.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_06: I was, you know, miles away from when all of it was going down.
• 1:55:53
  SPEAKER_06: There was a lot of similar conversations just with the gang activity leading up to that, and people saying the same thing.
• 1:55:59
  SPEAKER_06: And it's it's so unfortunate that it just seems like there is this stumbling block that people have of going and talking about their own community and and being tough with their own community.
• 1:56:09
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 1:56:09
  SPEAKER_06: It's uh it's unfortunate.
• 1:56:11
  SPEAKER_36: Yeah, the these narratives of well, we can't call it Somali violence, and we need to call it gun violence, is really uh it's it's troubling because let's say you had a group of skinheads that were running around the metro area at football games and such and beating people with baseball bats.
• 1:56:29
  SPEAKER_36: Would we call it baseball bat violence?
• 1:56:32
  SPEAKER_36: Of course not.
• 1:56:32
  SPEAKER_36: Right, no, no, no, no way.
• 1:56:34
  SPEAKER_36: It would be skinhead violence, and rightfully so.
• 1:56:36
  SPEAKER_06: I know I gotta cut you loose.
• 1:56:37
  SPEAKER_06: You got a busy morning.
• 1:56:38
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, one last question, though, and actually it's a question I was gonna ask you.
• 1:56:42
  SPEAKER_06: Um, if we're not if they're not dealing drugs, what are they do we know what they're fighting over?
• 1:56:46
  SPEAKER_06: Do we have any is it is it a territory situation?
• 1:56:50
  SPEAKER_06: Do we have any idea what the what these warring gangs are are all you know uh going after each other about?
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_36: It sounds like it it is it's all status stuff, you know, like um my my car is better than your we're we're better than you.
• 1:57:04
  SPEAKER_36: We have more nicer cars, we have computer girlfriends, whatever.
• 1:57:09
  SPEAKER_36: It's all status and ego stuff.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh just makes it even more unnecessary.
• 1:57:14
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, it's because it's completely and totally unnecessary, you know.
• 1:57:18
  SPEAKER_06: I just you know, have your gang, but just follow the law and don't go shooting each other.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_06: I whatever.
• 1:57:23
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 1:57:24
  SPEAKER_06: I uh anyway.
• 1:57:25
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 1:57:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh David Zimmer, I encourage everybody to head uh to head on over to um uh AmericanExperiment.org.
• 1:57:31
  SPEAKER_06: Uh check out uh your latest piece.
• 1:57:33
  SPEAKER_06: It's a fantastic read, uh, a lot of great ideas, solutions, and your commentary as well.
• 1:57:37
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for spending time with us this morning.
• 1:57:39
  SPEAKER_06: I appreciate it.
• 1:57:39
  SPEAKER_06: Thanks, John.
• 1:57:40
  SPEAKER_06: All right, we got a lot of comments that have rolled in uh to the uh blaster line that we need to get to.
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_06: Again, 651-964-0294.
• 1:57:49
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go ahead and uh start here.
• 1:57:52
  SPEAKER_27: Morning, John Gonzo.
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_27: I know you're gonna have David on soon.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_27: Um there's gonna be a task force, and they're gonna pull all the police troops together and the social workers and everybody else.
• 1:58:03
  SPEAKER_27: They're gonna talk about what they can do.
• 1:58:06
  SPEAKER_27: But it seems one of the one of the key elements that they always miss to leave out is collective information officers and them on the committee.
• 1:58:17
  SPEAKER_27: We see these people every week, we see them several times a month, we see them for years.
• 1:58:22
  SPEAKER_27: We know what will change their their mind.
• 1:58:25
  SPEAKER_27: Accountability.
• 1:58:27
  SPEAKER_27: Until you allow accountability in the court, nothing's gonna change.
• 1:58:33
  SPEAKER_27: Thank you, David on.
• 1:58:34
  SPEAKER_27: Have a good day.
• 1:58:35
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you, Gonzalez.
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, let's go on to another friend of the show.
• 1:58:39
  SPEAKER_27: Good morning, John.
• 1:58:41
  SPEAKER_26: I think we would mention this because I don't like to generalize an entire population of people based upon the actions of you.
• 1:58:50
  SPEAKER_26: Um one of my vehicles can be the MW, the figure range is part of one of the home people.
• 1:59:00
  SPEAKER_26: And then they come out.
• 1:59:07
  SPEAKER_26: I guess what they call them now.
• 1:59:10
  SPEAKER_26: Uh with uh taking photos of it, and uh he came out and talked to me and you're having a nice conversation.
• 1:59:18
  SPEAKER_26: Like, yeah, like I'm looking at one of these, you know, I came into a bunch of money and in the back of my mind I'm going you're an emerging adult, and you just came into enough money to buy my forties, man.
• 1:59:38
  SPEAKER_26: I bought this thing when I was in my late 30s.
• 1:59:43
  SPEAKER_26: Worked hard for it.
• 1:59:45
  SPEAKER_26: Um I don't know.
• 1:59:46
  SPEAKER_26: As far as all this game violence and shooting and emerging adult nonsense, you know what really forms that frontal lobe real quick?
• 1:59:55
  SPEAKER_26: Consequences.
• 1:59:56
  SPEAKER_26: Yep.
• 1:59:56
  SPEAKER_26: Accountability for your actions.
• 1:59:59
  SPEAKER_26: Yep.
• 2:00:01
  SPEAKER_26: This is wild junk.
• 2:00:27
  SPEAKER_06: Presented by American Experiment as community frustration mounts over Somali youth violence.
• 2:00:33
  SPEAKER_06: We just got done talking with uh David Zimmer, uh writes on uh issues of crime and safety here in Minnesota and the Twin Cities.
• 2:00:41
  SPEAKER_06: He has a brand new piece up at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 2:00:45
  SPEAKER_06: Community frustration is growing over the recent violent incidents involving Somali youth in the Twin Cities area.
• 2:00:50
  SPEAKER_06: Law enforcement leaders are calling for an aggressive response, including a regional task force to remove violent individuals from the street while acknowledging the need for long-term solutions and the immediate focus on deterring the violence protecting the public.
• 2:01:04
  SPEAKER_06: Um, listen, let's back up and look at this picture.
• 2:01:08
  SPEAKER_06: Because the the picture has now formed, and it's one that I hadn't put all the pieces together yet until we talked with David Zimmer.
• 2:01:15
  SPEAKER_06: So as the police chief in Bloomington mentioned yesterday, let me go ahead and set the stage on this because there's a solution to this problem.
• 2:01:26
  SPEAKER_06: It's long term.
• 2:01:28
  SPEAKER_06: There's a short-term solution, in my opinion, and there's a longer-term solution that we're already tackling, but we need to tackle more.
• 2:01:35
  SPEAKER_06: But first off, let's go back and reset the stage on there's here's some comments from uh Booker Hodges, the Bloomington police chief yesterday.
• 2:01:42
  SPEAKER_09: They're coming from two-parent homes, living in apartment buildings with$3,500 a month rent, driving beamers and Mercedes, and all these luxury cars, they when you hit their house, um, they don't they're not dealing with um money, there's no drugs in the house, they're purchasing legal firearms.
• 2:02:03
  SPEAKER_09: So this is not the 1980s, 1990s, 2000 gangs.
• 2:02:09
  SPEAKER_09: These kids are different.
• 2:02:12
  SPEAKER_09: So when I hear people talk about youth programs and all that, that's 2000.
• 2:02:17
  SPEAKER_09: When these that's them except for they're violent.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_06: These kids have come from good homes and they have a so in that moment he held up a picture of uh of a group of well-dressed individuals during the press conference so people could have a a visual of who he was speaking about regarding these Somali gangs.
• 2:02:39
  SPEAKER_06: And I know a few of you got kind of up in arms over David Zimmer's terminology of calling them cliques.
• 2:02:46
  SPEAKER_06: What what he was doing there was trying to differentiate between the different factions within these gangs that are causing the problem.
• 2:02:53
  SPEAKER_06: When we were heading into the Minnesota State Fair, the flyers were posted by these various gang members.
• 2:02:59
  SPEAKER_06: The most um familiar were the ones that we talked about the most on the show, the Muddy and the Ville, but there were a whole other list of gangs that were listed, their names that were on there, these different clubs.
• 2:03:10
  SPEAKER_06: So when he was talking about cliques instead of clans, I'm kind of with him.
• 2:03:14
  SPEAKER_06: We're still talking about gangbangers.
• 2:03:16
  SPEAKER_06: He's just talking about the different cliques within the gangbangers.
• 2:03:18
  SPEAKER_06: I just wanted to point that out because a few of you were uh were giving David a hard time for that.
• 2:03:22
  SPEAKER_06: And I kind of feel like his differentiating was necessary as we lay out uh a better narrative of what's actually happening right now.
• 2:03:32
  SPEAKER_09: They're living in houses that cost more than my mortgage.
• 2:03:35
  SPEAKER_09: So they're out here simply shooting each other based on social media beef.
• 2:03:42
  SPEAKER_09: Period.
• 2:03:42
  SPEAKER_09: That's it.
• 2:03:43
  SPEAKER_09: They're not there's no money involved, there's no drugs involved, it's all about social media beef.
• 2:03:51
  SPEAKER_06: Which is what makes it all the more frustrating is that this is all just status, superficial garbage nonsense from a bunch of apparently affluent uh individuals who have no respect for the Twin Cities, have no respect for law enforcement, the community in which they reside.
• 2:04:11
  SPEAKER_06: So the short-term solution is one, making sure that we acknowledge what the problem and we address the problem appropriately.
• 2:04:19
  SPEAKER_06: You see, for far too long, you've had individuals in positions of power who have been straight up lying to the public.
• 2:04:25
  SPEAKER_03: There are no roving gangs of Somali people in this community harassing, threatening, doing anything to any of our community members.
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_03: And let me repeat that again, because I've heard this often.
• 2:04:40
  SPEAKER_03: There are no roving gangs of Somalis targeting or harassing or doing anything inappropriate to any community members.
• 2:04:48
  SPEAKER_03: Those are simply lies.
• 2:04:50
  SPEAKER_03: It is not true.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I wonder why she hasn't done any of her hostage vig hostage uh videos uh as of as of late, based off of that comment.
• 2:04:58
  SPEAKER_06: And people have said, and as I mentioned when I played it earlier this week, you know, when was that audio posted?
• 2:05:03
  SPEAKER_06: I don't care.
• 2:05:05
  SPEAKER_06: Because she knew at the time that she was lying, because she was it was recent, it was over the course of the past few months.
• 2:05:10
  SPEAKER_06: She knew at the time that she was lying because this has been going on for a long time.
• 2:05:14
  SPEAKER_06: David Zimmer just mentioned it.
• 2:05:15
  SPEAKER_06: We've had people that have been leaving Blast talking about the time that their kids have spent in high school when they've been dealing with this for years.
• 2:05:23
  SPEAKER_06: So the short-term solution that we mentioned with David is making sure that one, we arrest these individuals.
• 2:05:29
  SPEAKER_06: You need a robust police department.
• 2:05:31
  SPEAKER_06: We don't have that in the city of Minneapolis, but now it's spread into the suburbs.
• 2:05:36
  SPEAKER_06: So these, you know, these superintendents at schools, these police chiefs, they better get away from this whole idea of the language police and the frustration that they have of pointing out that these are Somali gangs and start getting to the root cause.
• 2:05:49
  SPEAKER_06: On top of that, because even I'm seeing a much different scenario than what I was talking about earlier this week.
• 2:05:56
  SPEAKER_06: You have the issues within the schools that is fostering individuals to go and join these gangs as they get older.
• 2:06:03
  SPEAKER_06: That absolutely rings true.
• 2:06:05
  SPEAKER_06: But this is more tied to my belief, based off of the amount of money that the individuals had, it's directly going back to the fraud that's been taking place.
• 2:06:14
  SPEAKER_06: So, one, you arrest these individuals, you throw the book at them as strong as you possibly can, dispense with all this social justice, restorative justice garbage.
• 2:06:25
  SPEAKER_06: Charge them with every single thing that you can possibly charge them with so that it becomes incredibly uncomfortable and people think twice before they go out and start shooting at other individuals over the one guy having a better Gucci jacket than the other guy, or a nicer car, or a newer vehicle, or better rims on their ride.
• 2:06:48
  SPEAKER_06: Give me a break already.
• 2:06:49
  SPEAKER_06: You throw the book at them when they do their illegal behavior, and then the long-term solution?
• 2:06:56
  SPEAKER_06: We tackle the fraud.
• 2:06:59
  SPEAKER_06: We take away what essentially could be the funding source that's bringing about all of this petty bickering going back and forth between these gangs.
• 2:07:13
  SPEAKER_06: I think that would be a step in the right direction.
• 2:07:17
  SPEAKER_25: John from Apple Valley.
• 2:07:20
  SPEAKER_25: Uh good morning.
• 2:07:21
  SPEAKER_25: Uh when Mary Moriarty says there are no roving gangs going after things, I think he's just saying that the gangs aren't going after, you know, they're not they aren't harassing people.
• 2:07:33
  SPEAKER_25: Their gangs are out there, you might admit, going after each other, but they're not going after other people.
• 2:07:40
  SPEAKER_25: So if he's trying to create a fine line, John to go and handle Earth.
• 2:07:50
  SPEAKER_19: This is actually uh clan violence.
• 2:07:52
  SPEAKER_19: These are uh Somali clans that go back generations and they brought them over from Somalia and it's being caught by the parents.
• 2:08:00
  SPEAKER_19: So uh hope that helps out you soon.
• 2:08:04
  SPEAKER_06: Well, and where is all the money coming from?
• 2:08:07
  SPEAKER_06: That's the question that I have.
• 2:08:10
  SPEAKER_06: So whether or not it's directly tied to the billions of dollars in fraud, and something we'll talk about when John Phelan uh joins us here in the American Experiment Studio just after 8:30 or not, it seems to me that you could just basically take that whole equation and question out of the conversation if we continue to comprehensively go and tackle the fraud here in Minnesota to cut off the money that might be funneling in and inspiring these individuals to go out and commit their crimes and battle against each other.
• 2:08:41
  SPEAKER_06: I want to share with you some comments, the community meeting that was held in Edyna City Hall on Monday night discussing the recent violent incidents.
• 2:08:48
  SPEAKER_06: I have a couple of clips uh to uh share with you, and we'll get to those in just a moment on the show.
• 2:08:54
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• 2:08:57
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• 2:09:08
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• 2:10:19
  SPEAKER_34: You've heard about Education Minnesota, the statewide teachers' union that's affiliated with Randy Weingarten's American Federation of Teachers.
• 2:10:28
  SPEAKER_34: Well, they're at it again.
• 2:10:30
  SPEAKER_34: They have endorsed their slate of candidates in the Eastern Carver County School Board race.
• 2:10:35
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• 2:10:46
  SPEAKER_40: Hi, I'm Joe Scott, and I'm the only conservative on the Eastern Carver County Schools Board.
• 2:10:53
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• 2:11:04
  SPEAKER_40: Ideology becomes policy.
• 2:11:07
  SPEAKER_40: We need to keep these outside ideologies away from our children.
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  SPEAKER_06: Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher announced the creation of a regional task force yesterday to address what we're talking about here on the show, the youth gang violence after multiple shootings in the metro area over the course of the past week.
• 2:13:07
  SPEAKER_01: It means we need to arrest 50 of these 300 kids.
• 2:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: I've told you the number is about 300.
• 2:13:12
  SPEAKER_01: We sent 250 letters to known gang members for the state fair.
• 2:13:16
  SPEAKER_01: That number still is a good number, but we need to arrest a big chunk of these kids and send a message to the groups as a whole that we're not going to tolerate this type of shooting and violence.
• 2:13:28
  SPEAKER_01: 50 kids in this 300 need to go to jail.
• 2:13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Twenty-five need to be prosecuted by the feds for RICO, and another twenty-five need to be prosecuted at the local level.
• 2:13:38
  SPEAKER_01: You take 50 of the most active out of the mix, and we will see dramatic changes.
• 2:13:43
  SPEAKER_01: The kids are scared to death of federal RICO indictments.
• 2:13:46
  SPEAKER_01: I talked to dozens of them on the streets.
• 2:13:49
  SPEAKER_01: We're on the streets every Friday, Saturday night talking to them at coffee shops, etc.
• 2:13:54
  SPEAKER_06: Again, that was Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher.
• 2:13:57
  SPEAKER_06: I had a text that came into the blaster line at 651-964-0294, and they say, I disagree with you, John.
• 2:14:04
  SPEAKER_06: I'm on the side that was to go after these people and remove them.
• 2:14:07
  SPEAKER_06: And I mean go after them with prejudice and take them out by any means available.
• 2:14:13
  SPEAKER_06: We're on the same side.
• 2:14:15
  SPEAKER_06: I've had a lot of people, we had this conversation yesterday a bit, but I wanted to clarify a few things.
• 2:14:20
  SPEAKER_06: Because selective hearing and people hear what they want to hear.
• 2:14:23
  SPEAKER_06: There are ways in which you can go and deport those that are here in the country legally.
• 2:14:31
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:14:32
  SPEAKER_06: There are legal means to do that.
• 2:14:34
  SPEAKER_06: Crimes that are involved, and obviously that's part of it.
• 2:14:37
  SPEAKER_06: There's denaturalization that can take place.
• 2:14:39
  SPEAKER_06: I get all of that.
• 2:14:40
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:14:41
  SPEAKER_06: And I understand there's a lack of assimilation taking place in one particular community.
• 2:14:48
  SPEAKER_06: I acknowledge that.
• 2:14:50
  SPEAKER_06: I understand that.
• 2:14:51
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not blind to that.
• 2:14:53
  SPEAKER_06: Not everybody in that community is not assimilating, but many of them are not assimilating.
• 2:14:59
  SPEAKER_06: I I get that.
• 2:15:00
  SPEAKER_06: And I understand the desire when it comes to the future of this country to make sure that we don't end up in a situation like what we see overseas with the mass migration and what it's doing to France, what it's doing to England, what it's doing to London.
• 2:15:15
  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
• 2:15:16
  SPEAKER_06: My take is this it's not going to happen.
• 2:15:22
  SPEAKER_06: That's all that I'm saying.
• 2:15:24
  SPEAKER_06: At the moment, right now, especially between now and the election, and more than likely for the rest of Donald Trump's term, what you're wanting to see happen isn't going to happen.
• 2:15:34
  SPEAKER_06: There's no political will to make it happen.
• 2:15:38
  SPEAKER_06: The political fallout, if it started heading into another presidential election, look, if we can differ in opinions on that, that's fine.
• 2:15:48
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just trying to use common sense and being rational.
• 2:15:51
  SPEAKER_06: We're on the same side.
• 2:15:52
  SPEAKER_06: We're concerned about the same things.
• 2:15:54
  SPEAKER_06: There are solutions that are out there that, if they were implemented, could be good solutions.
• 2:15:59
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just sitting here telling you, having do having done what I do now for over 30 years, and to hear commentary on different fronts, going back to the immigration in and of itself.
• 2:16:09
  SPEAKER_06: It's not happening anytime soon.
• 2:16:11
  SPEAKER_06: So I would rather spend my time discussing ways to handle the problem right now, to deal with the issue right now, to get it under control, than to go off on some fantasy land theory, analogy, or desire that suddenly there's going to be this mass deportation of every single illegal Somali immigrant in Minnesota.
• 2:16:32
  SPEAKER_06: It's not happening.
• 2:16:35
  SPEAKER_06: So I just wanted to clarify my statement on that.
• 2:16:38
  SPEAKER_06: So you can feel that way.
• 2:16:39
  SPEAKER_06: And if if it is if what you want is just me saying this needs to happen, it it changes nothing.
• 2:16:45
  SPEAKER_06: I'm a talk show host.
• 2:16:46
  SPEAKER_06: Despite what some foes of the show continue to push online that somehow I'm shadow running the GOP here in the state of Minnesota and Tom Emmer's campaign and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, uh that couldn't be further from the truth.
• 2:17:03
  SPEAKER_06: So again, I had a lot of people reaching out yesterday and going back and forth on this, and I'm just trying to be realistic of the scenario.
• 2:17:10
  SPEAKER_06: To go and waste time, and I've already wasted enough time on it talking about how this needs to happen and we need to get rid of everybody.
• 2:17:17
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's fine and dandy.
• 2:17:19
  SPEAKER_06: Then if there are politicians that are running for office that are uh going to pledge to go and do that, then support those candidates.
• 2:17:26
  SPEAKER_06: Okay?
• 2:17:27
  SPEAKER_06: And if it ends up happening and I'm wrong, I would be the first one to sit here behind this microphone and to tell you that I am being wrong.
• 2:17:36
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not, though.
• 2:17:38
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let's go here.
• 2:17:40
  SPEAKER_06: A community meeting was held at Edina City Hall on Monday night to discuss the recent violent incidents.
• 2:17:46
  SPEAKER_06: We had the shots fired, but they hadn't even gotten into this yet.
• 2:17:49
  SPEAKER_06: The campus of Edina's Our Lady of Grace Church.
• 2:17:53
  SPEAKER_06: That was late last month.
• 2:17:55
  SPEAKER_06: Eden Prairie High School homecoming game, the gas station, the shooting on uh Highway 100, uh heading into St.
• 2:18:04
  SPEAKER_06: Louis uh Park, what took place over in uh Bloomington.
• 2:18:07
  SPEAKER_06: The community got together.
• 2:18:08
  SPEAKER_06: There was a lot of great commentary coming from the concerned citizens in the area.
• 2:18:13
  SPEAKER_06: Let's play for you some of what they had to say during that community meeting here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
• 2:18:23
  SPEAKER_38: So yesterday the city council moved the meeting time, residents pushed back.
• 2:18:26
  SPEAKER_38: Today we're here in person, so good, because accountability matters.
• 2:18:30
  SPEAKER_38: I'm gonna be very direct.
• 2:18:31
  SPEAKER_38: I'm here because I care about Edina, care about this community, care about solving the problem, and I don't really care about making people comfortable talking about it.
• 2:18:39
  SPEAKER_38: So, Mr.
• 2:18:40
  SPEAKER_38: Mayor, you mentioned uh the shooting at Yancy and you hope that it won't happen again.
• 2:18:44
  SPEAKER_38: Well, hope is not a plan.
• 2:18:46
  SPEAKER_38: I'll start with a question.
• 2:18:48
  SPEAKER_38: Are you prepared to directly confront what is happening even when the facts are not politically uncomfortable or make you politically uncomfortable?
• 2:18:56
  SPEAKER_38: Referring to these shootings as gun violence is misleading, grossly misleading.
• 2:19:01
  SPEAKER_38: Doing so shifts responsibility away from those who are committing the crimes and avoids the questions of personal accountability and criminal behavior, excuse me, criminal behavior.
• 2:19:22
  SPEAKER_38: As noted by Chief uh Milbourne, uh Mr.
• 2:19:25
  SPEAKER_38: Rolson, and others, shots fired at ANSI Park, OLG, and the Eden Prairie Homecoming game the other night are just scratching the surface of the problem.
• 2:19:34
  SPEAKER_38: Semantics aside, we have a gang problem.
• 2:19:37
  SPEAKER_38: There's clearly a youth component from Somali youth uh uh as part of that.
• 2:19:41
  SPEAKER_38: So call it what it is and deal with it.
• 2:19:45
  SPEAKER_38: So my questions are, and I don't necessarily expect an answer now, where's the public demand for answers from the Hampton County attorney, specifically the leader of that group, the judges, and others whose decisions determine what happens with violent offenders?
• 2:20:01
  SPEAKER_38: Where's the outrage?
• 2:20:02
  SPEAKER_38: All right?
• 2:20:03
  SPEAKER_38: They failed us, they need to be held accountable, right?
• 2:20:06
  SPEAKER_38: But that's not enough.
• 2:20:07
  SPEAKER_38: Edyna needs to examine our own priorities because you must answer for the decisions you've made.
• 2:20:16
  SPEAKER_38: When gunfire happened at Yancey Park, the city's response was talk uh about having a meeting with Somali community leaders and mentioning a new soccer program.
• 2:20:25
  SPEAKER_38: Really?
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_38: I mean, who are the supposed leaders, which was asked earlier?
• 2:20:30
  SPEAKER_38: Who do they represent, and what accountability has this produced?
• 2:20:34
  SPEAKER_38: Right?
• 2:20:35
  SPEAKER_38: President see a ton of energy devoted to proclamations while we sit here discussing yet another Somali shooting.
• 2:20:41
  SPEAKER_38: We don't need more virtue signaling, yard signs, DEI initiatives, or community conversations that lead to nowhere.
• 2:20:47
  SPEAKER_38: We need competent government, accountability, and safe neighborhoods.
• 2:20:50
  SPEAKER_38: So there's four actions moving forward.
• 2:20:52
  SPEAKER_38: One, we need to demand account uh public accountability, not only from yourselves, but from the Happen County attorney, judges, and others who refuse violent offenders or uh refuse to keep violent offenders off our streets.
• 2:21:04
  SPEAKER_38: Two, we need to aggressively enforce existing laws against gangs, violence, and public disorderly behavior.
• 2:21:12
  SPEAKER_38: And when juveniles are involved, hold the parents accountable when it's legally appropriate.
• 2:21:16
  SPEAKER_38: Three, as mentioned before, engage the school board to establish zero tolerance for non-resident disruptors in our schools.
• 2:21:24
  SPEAKER_38: That is an issue.
• 2:21:26
  SPEAKER_38: Priorities.
• 2:21:28
  SPEAKER_38: We need to prioritize our safety over your ideology.
• 2:21:31
  SPEAKER_38: Don't allow the fear of social or political friction to prevent you from addressing problems residents see with our own eyes.
• 2:21:38
  SPEAKER_38: What we tolerate in our presence becomes standard.
• 2:21:42
  SPEAKER_38: Doing is greater than talking.
• 2:21:44
  SPEAKER_38: We don't need more politicians, apologists, or ideologists.
• 2:21:49
  SPEAKER_38: What we need is leadership and con uh conviction.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_38: Government's first responsibility is to protect its citizens when you start acting like it.
• 2:21:56
  SPEAKER_38: Thanks, Mr.
• 2:21:57
  SPEAKER_38: Kruber.
• 2:21:58
  SPEAKER_06: I can't imagine.
• 2:22:00
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I'm pretty close to it here, but to have this happening right in your own backyard, and and I can tell you that from the staff members that are having to deal with uh to deal with this.
• 2:22:13
  SPEAKER_06: Uh that had to deal with this on Monday night at the softball game.
• 2:22:16
  SPEAKER_06: I it it must be inf it's infuriating just seeing it happen from a, you know, from a radio host perspective and sharing the news.
• 2:22:26
  SPEAKER_06: I can't imagine what it must be like for the individuals where this is happening in their own backyard.
• 2:22:32
  SPEAKER_06: Here's more commentary from the community speaking out at that event earlier this week.
• 2:22:36
  SPEAKER_39: I'm a resident since 2000.
• 2:22:38
  SPEAKER_39: Uh my only uh point here is to just add a little extra data and a little extra context to this conversation.
• 2:22:45
  SPEAKER_39: I really appreciated uh your recap, Chief Milburn, in terms of sort of what's happened recently.
• 2:22:51
  SPEAKER_39: But um it uh part of this is uh unironically, for whatever reason, it seems to follow me uh around.
• 2:22:57
  SPEAKER_39: So um I want to hearken back to a couple of other things that I think are uh added context to the conversation in in the dyno.
• 2:23:06
  SPEAKER_39: I go back to the December of 21 Lens incident, that's where I shop.
• 2:23:10
  SPEAKER_39: Uh the perpetrator actually ended up on my front porch, basically a front front yard, and uh I I saw the uh sort of aftermath of the car driving away.
• 2:23:21
  SPEAKER_39: So I've seen that.
• 2:23:23
  SPEAKER_39: Uh I I and my two teenage daughters work out at the LA Fitness on 76.
• 2:23:28
  SPEAKER_39: Uh I I missed it uh fortunately by one day, but um on uh I think it was March 20th of 2024, there was a shooting in the gym there.
• 2:23:40
  SPEAKER_39: Um and then uh ironically, I think it was April of this spring, there was a near shooting in that same gym uh um where I believe four guns were retrieved from bags.
• 2:23:53
  SPEAKER_39: Um uh in that again, I don't go shopping at the lungs to get shot at, and I don't go to work out to get shot at.
• 2:23:59
  SPEAKER_39: And I my my two daughters that work out there have a rule now that um when it comes to gym time, I'm with them at my gym in a dyno.
• 2:24:10
  SPEAKER_39: And by the way, shortly after that first incident at the LA Fitness, some of those same kids went to the YMCA and unfortunately nearly beat a young man to death.
• 2:24:19
  SPEAKER_39: Uh I believe another fellow Somali uh uh child.
• 2:24:23
  SPEAKER_39: So just for for added reference, I think uh it's important for everybody to know this context.
• 2:24:28
  SPEAKER_39: Let's go back to 2025 at a Adina High School um graduation.
• 2:24:32
  SPEAKER_39: We were one fortuitous arrest away from the possibility of someone coming to the event with a 10 millimeter uh with a switch.
• 2:24:43
  SPEAKER_39: Um fortunately that person was stopped prior to the Adina graduation ceremony, but was subsequently let out in the middle of the week and was involved in the same sort of an incident and an actual shooting at Burnsville.
• 2:24:57
  SPEAKER_39: Important context.
• 2:24:59
  SPEAKER_39: Um I'm gonna cheat by three-quarters of a mile, but my mother's in assisted living at the Glen um on federal court in uh in Hopkins.
• 2:25:09
  SPEAKER_39: Um and uh on May 11th of this year, there was a shooting at an assisted living uh uh facility in the parking lot where a young man unfortunately was shot in the head.
• 2:25:20
  SPEAKER_39: So um this goes way beyond some of the recent things we're we're talking about.
• 2:25:25
  SPEAKER_39: And ironically, you know, we are not any vote against the dyna, but we are we are moving into the Minnetonka district.
• 2:25:30
  SPEAKER_39: And guess where my daughter was last night?
• 2:25:32
  SPEAKER_39: So our or last last Friday for for the football game.
• 2:25:36
  SPEAKER_39: So um uh just just added context, and and and again, I appreciate the data, I appreciate the focus now, but if you go back, and I only went back five years, there's a lot more to add to this.
• 2:25:46
  SPEAKER_39: Thank you.
• 2:25:46
  SPEAKER_39: Thank you, Richard.
• 2:25:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you can hear the frustration in the voice of those uh residents.
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  SPEAKER_06: I could spend a whole show just going over comments that have been rolling in to the blaster line via text this morning.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's it is uh it is truly astonishing what people uh people believe.
• 2:30:43
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much uh for all the comments.
• 2:30:44
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to play one more and we'll get to our guest, uh, John Phelan.
• 2:30:47
  SPEAKER_06: He's our economist here at uh Center of the American Experiment.
• 2:30:50
  SPEAKER_06: He has got a couple of uh fantastic pieces up at AmericanExperiment.org that we are going to uh chat about.
• 2:30:56
  SPEAKER_06: But uh let's put a bit of a period on uh the conversation regarding the recent Somali gang violence.
• 2:31:01
  SPEAKER_16: I just want to send props out to that guy who was talking uh at that council meeting because he was clearly nervous and he was messing up a little bit here and there because I don't think he was used to public speaking.
• 2:31:13
  SPEAKER_16: But you know what?
• 2:31:14
  SPEAKER_16: I appreciate what he said, and I appreciate the fact that he was brave enough to go out and say it.
• 2:31:19
  SPEAKER_06: And thank you for the comment.
• 2:31:20
  SPEAKER_06: Again, uh, you want to email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org, and uh we'll continue to keep uh the uh text and voice message rolling into the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
• 2:31:33
  SPEAKER_06: Very pleased to welcome back to the show.
• 2:31:35
  SPEAKER_06: As I mentioned, that economist.
• 2:31:36
  SPEAKER_06: He goes by the name of John Phelan because that's his name, and he joins us here in the uh Center of the American Experiment studio.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh good morning, John.
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  SPEAKER_06: Thanks for uh thanks for joining me this morning.
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  SPEAKER_23: Thanks for having me.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, I'm curious.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know we're gonna talk about some of your recent articles.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna put you on the spot, though.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh you have an amazing book that you've written, you know, talking about the history here in Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_06: When you see, you know, you see what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know you've been focused on the economy.
• 2:31:59
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna talk about these issues.
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  SPEAKER_06: There's a lot that ties into what's been taking place, though, right now, with all the recent gang violence.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh, there's a level of fraud that's attached to this as well.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, without going into the weeds on that, I'm curious, just your perspective of everything that we've seen of the recent news, especially given the work that you've done looking at the history of Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's gotta be to draw the comparisons from the past to now, I mean, it's gotta provide some interesting perspective.
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  SPEAKER_23: Yeah, it's um I mean if if you think about where we are today, it w it's just the outcome of where we were yesterday and the day before and the day before that, you know, history is what brought us here.
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  SPEAKER_23: And so if you want to try and understand things, I think, which is what we're all here to do, you've gotta you've gotta have some element of history in that.
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  SPEAKER_23: You've got to have some understanding of the history.
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  SPEAKER_23: And so if you look at the history of the state, I mean this is a great place to live.
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  SPEAKER_23: But it didn't get that way just by magic.
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  SPEAKER_23: You know, it got that way because people worked and did certain things, believed certain things, and made this a great place to live.
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  SPEAKER_06: And that seems to be changing unf un un unfortunately.
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  SPEAKER_06: Are there and again, uh, you know, thanks for sort of heading down this road with me.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was just, as you were walking in, I was talking about this.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_06: Let's go down, let's let's go down this path.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know John Phelan can handle it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, are there any are there any parallels that you're seeing um from history to today?
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, do you could like in mentally is there a through line that you can see of how we arrived at this point based off of your knowledge of the history of the state?
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  SPEAKER_23: Um well, it's an interesting thing.
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  SPEAKER_23: I I think if you look at what you've got going on, like a few years ago I did an article where I looked at um 1973, and um that year Time magazine put Minnesota on the front cover.
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  SPEAKER_23: Well, Minnesota's Governor Wendell Anderson, he was holding the fish.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the fit the famous photograph the famous photo, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_23: And they called Minnesota the state that works.
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  SPEAKER_23: And if you go and read this article, you can actually read the whole thing for free.
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  SPEAKER_23: On Times website.
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  SPEAKER_23: It's like a different world.
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  SPEAKER_23: And it's talked about how safe everything is, how you can zip around the city, you know, you can live on a lake and work downtown.
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  SPEAKER_23: But then there's a great bit in it where it says, and I'm quoting almost, you know, verbatim here, it says, politics is almost unnaturally clean, no grift, no corruption.
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  SPEAKER_23: I mean, nobody would say that about Minnesota now.
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  SPEAKER_23: You know, there's been a huge degradation in 50 years in the standards and quality of public life in this state, and that's undeniable.
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  SPEAKER_06: Is there um, you know, how much of um how much of this is is I'm I'm trying to think of how I want to formulate this.
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  SPEAKER_06: I have a I I have a mental picture of what's been happening in Europe right now and the mass migration, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: And we've certainly been talking about the issue of the of immigrants here in Minnesota, the ties to fraud.
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  SPEAKER_06: We now see the Somali gang situation.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um it seems to me though that it's a convergence of a couple of different issues, policies that have brought us to this point that have enabled these other things to take place.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um do you do you see it that way, or are they more are they more separate in terms of the immigration issue versus the policies that have brought about the exploiting of some of what's happened here in in Minnesota?
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  SPEAKER_06: And I know that's really convoluted, so take that wherever you want to go.
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  SPEAKER_06: I think you get the idea of where I'm heading with this, though.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm curious your perspective, especially given your background and where you're originally from and what's happening right now in Europe.
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  SPEAKER_23: Well, I think back to Britain and in the 90s, you know, when all this uh massive wave of immigration that there has been uh started under Tony Blair's Labour government.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um, the promise was that yes, you will get mass immigration, but it will be accompanied with mass assimilation and that all these people will come to Britain and they would become British.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um the problem was that nobody could actually define what that meant.
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  SPEAKER_23: It turns out, I mean, it's one of those things, you know.
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  SPEAKER_23: So I remember Gordon Brown when he was Prime Minister in around 2009, suddenly he launched this whole big thing, you know, we're gonna define what it is to be British.
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  SPEAKER_23: And he ended up with this list of things like tolerance, fair play, liberal democracy, rule of law.
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  SPEAKER_23: I mean, okay, great.
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  SPEAKER_23: Yeah, everybody in the world on some notional level kind of believes that stuff, you know.
• 2:36:20
  SPEAKER_23: But being British is something that you never needed to define uh as long as everyone kind of knew what it was.
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  SPEAKER_23: It's something that you can't actually define in the abstract.
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  SPEAKER_23: Same perhaps as being French.
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  SPEAKER_23: And I remember there's a an old uh TV show called Civilization by a guy, it was hosted by a guy called Alan Clark, who is an art historian, and it opens with him, stood in front of this cathedral in France Chartre or somewhere, and he says, if you ask me to define uh culture, I can't do it in the abstract, but I can tell you when I'm looking at it, points of the judges, I'm looking at it now.
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  SPEAKER_23: And it's this and it's exactly the same thing, I think.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um and so now we whereas we never had to worry about these questions before, we do now.
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  SPEAKER_23: Because what's happened is mass immigration in Europe has not been followed by mass assimilation.
• 2:37:09
  SPEAKER_23: So what you've got effectively in a country like Britain is you've got a you've got the Balkans, uh, which is not good.
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  SPEAKER_23: I mean, if anybody remembers the 90s, you know, the Balkans was not nice.
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  SPEAKER_23: And so what you've got in Britain now, there's effectively um a political party, they're independent MPs that sit in parliament, and all they're there to talk about is Gaza.
• 2:37:29
  SPEAKER_23: All they are there to talk about is the Middle East and i i Islamism.
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  SPEAKER_23: They have nothing in common with your average Brit in terms of the political things that they care about, you know, health care and roads and things like that, immigration, which uh is a big concern in Britain, but which these people obviously have a very different view on.
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  SPEAKER_23: And so what you've got now, and you've never had this in Britain, is an ethnic politics.
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  SPEAKER_23: And I don't know, and you you see this, you know, in in Europe maybe there's been some of that, but Britain has never ever had an ethnic politics problem before.
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  SPEAKER_23: Maybe the maybe the Irish situation, but again, that's not a uh a precedent you want to repeat.
• 2:38:07
  SPEAKER_23: Now, America has more experience with ethnic politics and with assimilation.
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  SPEAKER_23: If you think of the Ellis Island immigrants that came here, yeah.
• 2:38:16
  SPEAKER_23: You know, America, they say, was built on immigration, that's exactly true.
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  SPEAKER_23: But it was built on immigration, people who came to this country and were then damn proud to be American.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_23: You know, there's a wonderful book called The Doughboys by a guy called Lawrence Stalings, and it's about the American army in the First World War.
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  SPEAKER_23: And that army, when you think 1917 to 1919, it's almost entirely composed of these European immigrants, guys from Eastern Europe, guys from Northern Europe, um, you know, Sweden and places like that.
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  SPEAKER_23: And they are all so proud to be American, and this book is all about how they become American through this process.
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  SPEAKER_23: And it's a wonderful, wonderful book, and I don't see anything similar happening now.
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  SPEAKER_23: What you have now in America is the same you've had happening in Europe for a very long time, is people come here and they aren't told you have come to the greatest country in the world.
• 2:39:06
  SPEAKER_23: They're told you've come to this awful, oppressive, colonial, uh, you know, settler colony, systemic racist.
• 2:39:15
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_23: Same thing's happened in Britain, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_23: All these people who've come to Britain, they've been told, you know, well, you know, come and fill your boots, it's just repayment for the Empire or something.
• 2:39:24
  SPEAKER_06: What's the uh just really quick on Britain, where is the the the silencing of individuals that we've seen there?
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  SPEAKER_06: I was just watching an interview last night as I was waiting to go on Fox News, they actually had um a a Brit, he was one of the more famous individuals that was arrested for putting up a a post online on on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_06: Was that born out of trying to solve a a problem relating to what you're talking about right now and the issues that are facing Britain where they are going and punishing individuals for just posting uh items online that the government may, you know, not be in in favor of?
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  SPEAKER_23: That's exactly what it is.
• 2:40:02
  SPEAKER_23: Um if you can't fix a problem, you can stop people talking about it at least.
• 2:40:06
  SPEAKER_23: Um so that that's it.
• 2:40:07
  SPEAKER_23: No one has any idea in Europe, no one has any idea how to solve the problems they've got.
• 2:40:12
  SPEAKER_23: It's it's terrifying.
• 2:40:13
  SPEAKER_23: You know, if you look at a country like Britain, no one knows what's gonna happen.
• 2:40:17
  SPEAKER_23: No one has any idea what's gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_23: And the best, you know, everyone, I mean what's happening in Britain is you know, and other countries in Europe with the immigration is historically absolutely unprecedented.
• 2:40:29
  SPEAKER_23: Um, no one knows what's gonna work out.
• 2:40:30
  SPEAKER_23: Maybe it'll work out fine.
• 2:40:32
  SPEAKER_23: You know, I I hope to God it does.
• 2:40:34
  SPEAKER_23: But it might not.
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  SPEAKER_23: No one knows.
• 2:40:35
  SPEAKER_23: Yeah, you know, we are flying completely blind on all this, um, and nobody really wants to acknowledge that.
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  SPEAKER_23: So maybe if we just stop talking about it, it'll all go away.
• 2:40:43
  SPEAKER_23: At least it won't be a problem.
• 2:40:44
  SPEAKER_06: It sounds familiar.
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  SPEAKER_23: Well, one thing that's the one thing that struck me is, you know, so many people I talk to think, but it won't be a problem in my lifetime.
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  SPEAKER_23: But I mean, if you think of Tom Paine, you know, these are the times that try men's souls and all that, and there was a part in uh one of his uh bo uh papers that he wrote during the Revolutionary War, where he saw a guy in the doorway, a tavern doorway, um, who said uh who said, I'm not gonna fight, you know, let somebody else do it, let somebody else do it.
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  SPEAKER_23: And Payne said about this guy, he said, Everyone knows there's gonna be a a problem.
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  SPEAKER_23: Deal with it now so my children don't have to.
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  SPEAKER_23: And that's exactly how we should face these things.
• 2:41:21
  SPEAKER_23: I don't want my children to have to deal with problems.
• 2:41:23
  SPEAKER_23: I want them dealt with now.
• 2:41:25
  SPEAKER_06: Was um, let's stick on this for a moment, and thanks for going down this road with me.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know we had no intention of talking about this, but I'm really appreciating the uh conversation as we speak with policy fellow John Phelan.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, just one quick question.
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  SPEAKER_06: I want to take what we're what we're talking about and apply it to what's currently happening now, and then we'll talk a bit about these um these new pieces you have.
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  SPEAKER_06: But I I have to assume you going back to Tony Blair when they when the when the migration started and he was in promotion of that, I have to assume that there were individuals that were saying this is a bad idea.
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  SPEAKER_06: Was he misguided or was his sort of baseline assumption of what was going to happen like was he misguided in doing that, or were his his assumptions correct and it turns out that they were that they were wrong?
• 2:42:08
  SPEAKER_06: Were there those that were saying we can't we can't do this who were predicting the disaster would end up befalling the the region?
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  SPEAKER_23: I could talk a very long time about Tony Blair, but you wouldn't be able to broadcast very much of it, I'll tell you that.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um now one of the things that that happened is after 1997 when he got elected and massively changed uh the immigration policies in Britain.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um one of the things that it came out subsequently, one and this is a quote, is that one of the reasons they did it was wiggles his fingers to rub the right's nose in diversity.
• 2:42:42
  SPEAKER_23: And so that's what's happened in you know all these places like Rotherham and Telford and Doncaster and all these awful things that you hear about.
• 2:42:50
  SPEAKER_23: And I would just say, you know, while I'm uh dumping on Tony Blair, um this is bipartisan in Britain.
• 2:42:57
  SPEAKER_23: There you there are people who've complained about this and they've been called kooks and cranks and all the rest of it for years.
• 2:43:01
  SPEAKER_23: But this is bipartisan, and this is the this is well the the biggest screw-ups in politics are generally bipartisan.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um and there has been a huge- I mean, so if you look at uh Boris Johnson's government, a conservative government that keeps wiggling his fingers, um, the massive immigration that that government allowed um a couple of years ago, um, I mean, it's just it it's uh like I say, it's historically absolutely unprecedented in thousands of years of British history.
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  SPEAKER_06: Aaron Ross Powell Well, and it's such a difficult thing to navigate.
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  SPEAKER_06: The one thing that stuck out when you were talking about um defining what it means to be British, you know, I I I couldn't tell you, but I know what it looks like when I see it.
• 2:43:39
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I go through something similar here on the show when we're talking about the issues that we're faced with today and the lack of assimilation taking place.
• 2:43:47
  SPEAKER_06: It's very similar.
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  SPEAKER_06: Like I'm trying to articulate it on the air, and I think we all sort of have a version in our mind of what assimilation means, but it is very similar in that, well, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_06: I I I can't really define it in specificity, but I know it when I see it and I know what's happening right now is not it based off of all the recent news that we've seen and what we've been covering on the show the past few days.
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  SPEAKER_23: Absolutely, yeah.
• 2:44:09
  SPEAKER_23: Um that's absolutely true.
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  SPEAKER_06: And I, you know, and I guess going back to what you said before, where's it all gonna go?
• 2:44:15
  SPEAKER_06: You know, who knows at this point in time, you know.
• 2:44:17
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we have this election coming up.
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  SPEAKER_06: It'll be interesting to see what the voters decide which direction that we want to go.
• 2:44:23
  SPEAKER_06: You know, this news is certainly gonna weigh in heavily of people who haven't uh who haven't voted yet.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um let's get to some of these pieces, though, and the whole reason why I invited our economist uh John Phelan to join us this morning.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um First off, you had a piece here.
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  SPEAKER_06: Former uh federal attorney Joe Thompson reiterates estimates of uh billions lost to fraud in Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh the headline alone sparked my interest.
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  SPEAKER_06: But it really was a recap of what we already know and sort of putting every putting all the pieces back together to establish um what the federal attorney had initially said, um, especially given the fact that the media has really tried to downplay that number, focusing only on the convictions of individuals and not looking at the broader picture, correct?
• 2:45:05
  SPEAKER_23: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_23: So um just to summarize, and you've probably well familiar with this, uh back in December, uh Joe Thompson gave a press conference.
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  SPEAKER_23: He was the lead prosecutor, he was the acting uh US attorney for the district of Minnesota, and he gave a press conference and he was talking about uh something like$18 billion in Medicaid uh spending.
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  SPEAKER_23: Um this is going back, you know, go uh over a period of some some years, back to about 2018, I think.
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  SPEAKER_23: And he was asked um how much of that do you think is fraudulent?
• 2:45:37
  SPEAKER_23: And he said, you know, about half, yeah, more than half, more than likely is fraud.
• 2:45:42
  SPEAKER_23: You know, so do the math, you know, eight eight eighteen divided by two is nine, you know, so it's nine billion, he's talking about in these few programs over that period of time.
• 2:45:52
  SPEAKER_23: So if you're looking for an estimate of fraud, well, there's a baseline, and you can add feeling our future and whatnot on top of that.
• 2:45:59
  SPEAKER_23: Um and it's really interesting, I think, that we've got there's been such pushback on that.
• 2:46:05
  SPEAKER_23: I mean, Tim Waltz jumped on it immediately, said it's crazy, forget this.
• 2:46:09
  SPEAKER_23: And the media of it's it's worth noting that when there was an earlier estimate, um, the Star Tribune worked very hard to debunk that and actually had to retract its piece because it was so bad.
• 2:46:21
  SPEAKER_23: Um, but you've had a more recent, more recent attempts to kind of downplay this nine billion dollar number.
• 2:46:27
  SPEAKER_23: Um, you know, people say, well, where does it come from, actually?
• 2:46:30
  SPEAKER_23: And then they go and, as you say, they say, well, this is the amount that's been proven.
• 2:46:35
  SPEAKER_23: But as I say in in that article, if you look at a crime like rape, for example, I I looked this up yesterday.
• 2:46:41
  SPEAKER_23: There was something like 560 convictions for rape in Minnesota in 2025.
• 2:46:46
  SPEAKER_23: There was something like 2,200 reported rapes in Minnesota in 2025.
• 2:46:52
  SPEAKER_23: Now, I do not believe, and I don't imagine many people believe, that every rape that was committed in Minnesota in 2025 was reported.
• 2:47:00
  SPEAKER_23: So the number of rapes that there were in Minnesota in that year was somewhere north of 2,200.
• 2:47:06
  SPEAKER_23: Um what I certainly don't believe is if we're going to discuss that issue, we say, well, hang on, you know, yeah, sure, 2,200 were reported, but we've only prosecuted 560 of them.
• 2:47:18
  SPEAKER_23: Uh so that's the that's the number of rapes that we've proved.
• 2:47:21
  SPEAKER_23: You know, nobody would say that.
• 2:47:22
  SPEAKER_23: It's nuts.
• 2:47:24
  SPEAKER_23: You know, so I think it's completely it's it's just bizarre, this whole thing that you can only count as a crime or in the magnitude that which has been proved in a court of law in a situation like this, it's nuts.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, and you pointed out, and and uh I'm glad you did, uh, that uh Thomson gave an interview to Chad Hartman over at WCCO.
• 2:47:45
  SPEAKER_06: And at the end of your piece, uh you write, you know, listening to this interview, it's hard to see Thomson as some sort of MAGA shill.
• 2:47:54
  SPEAKER_06: And that matters because people do end up basing a lot of their decisions, and a lot of that leads to policy, based off of their own political ideologies and beliefs, and they quickly want to go and dispense an individual and whatever information that they're providing as not being relevant or accurate simply because they may be aligned with the political party.
• 2:48:12
  SPEAKER_06: And what you're pointing out here is no, if you listen to the article, it's pretty clear, at least in my view, uh, and I think yours as well, that you know, John Thompson, no, he's looking at this from a fact a fact-based angle and not from an angle of politics.
• 2:48:25
  SPEAKER_06: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 2:48:26
  SPEAKER_23: No, I think he's a diligent and talented public servant.
• 2:48:29
  SPEAKER_23: Um I think he's a decent man.
• 2:48:31
  SPEAKER_23: Um and if you look at how you know things worked out for him there, he's a guy who stood by his principles, and I respect that.
• 2:48:37
  SPEAKER_23: You know, um and so and it's when he initially came out with these estimates, the original attacks on him were that he was just parroting, you know, lines for the administration.
• 2:48:47
  SPEAKER_23: I mean, that's completely unsupportable as an argument now, which is why you get this kind of nitpicking over, well, you know, was it this billion or was it something else?
• 2:48:55
  SPEAKER_23: How many convictions have there been?
• 2:48:57
  SPEAKER_23: You know, um and so some of it is is is quite strange.
• 2:49:00
  SPEAKER_23: I would just throw in one thing.
• 2:49:01
  SPEAKER_23: I mean, one of the kind of debunking stories on this, um, a a guy was kind of brought in and he was offered as an expert, you know, the man is a road scholar.
• 2:49:12
  SPEAKER_23: Well, does anybody know what a road scholar is?
• 2:49:14
  SPEAKER_23: It was offered as, you know, this is a a criteria, this is a credential to speak on Minnesota fraud.
• 2:49:20
  SPEAKER_23: All it means is that you spent some time studying at the University of Oxford.
• 2:49:23
  SPEAKER_23: Do you know who else is a road scholar?
• 2:49:25
  SPEAKER_23: Chris Christofferson.
• 2:49:27
  SPEAKER_23: Right?
• 2:49:28
  SPEAKER_23: Now, if the late great Chris Chris was still with us, would he be uh being approached for his views on fraud in Minnesota?
• 2:49:36
  SPEAKER_23: It's yeah, it's it's crazy.
• 2:49:38
  SPEAKER_06: Um let's touch upon this.
• 2:49:39
  SPEAKER_06: I had a comment that rolled in uh for you as we talk with John Phelan, but the other article, uh, and we can uh we can just touch upon it.
• 2:49:46
  SPEAKER_06: Um after billions lost to fraud and tax uh and taxes on average earners it increased.
• 2:49:51
  SPEAKER_06: The DFL is proposing billions more in new tax hikes.
• 2:49:55
  SPEAKER_06: So what are we what are we looking at and what's highlighted in your uh in your piece, John?
• 2:49:59
  SPEAKER_23: So if you this this is a bizarre thing.
• 2:50:01
  SPEAKER_23: You know, this this election, we we're going into this with a forecast budget deficit over the next four years, kind of cumulatively of something like five billion dollars.
• 2:50:10
  SPEAKER_23: So it's about a billion dollars a year that the federal that the state government is spending above what it's collecting in revenues.
• 2:50:17
  SPEAKER_23: So we're in a deficit, you know, structural deficit.
• 2:50:20
  SPEAKER_23: We've got we're you know, we're we're we're we're stuffed, we're out of cash.
• 2:50:24
  SPEAKER_23: So the next session that sits after the election is gonna have to fix that problem.
• 2:50:29
  SPEAKER_23: They're gonna have to close that gap.
• 2:50:30
  SPEAKER_23: Now it's gonna be higher taxes, it's gonna be lower spending, possibly some combination of the two.
• 2:50:35
  SPEAKER_23: But I see almost no discussion, either from the media or the candidates themselves, I must say, um, about how they plan to deal with all this.
• 2:50:46
  SPEAKER_23: It should be an absolutely central question in this election, and everyone's just kind of talking about something else.
• 2:50:51
  SPEAKER_23: Um and I'll give you, you know, what makes this kind of even worse is the DFL.
• 2:50:56
  SPEAKER_23: Uh they're running on a platform, their values project, and it's quite open, you know, they announce this, you can go and find it online.
• 2:51:03
  SPEAKER_23: I link to it in the piece, where they list all the things that they want to do if they get their trifecta uh after November, and it's just more spending.
• 2:51:12
  SPEAKER_23: Spending, spending, spending, all the way down the line.
• 2:51:14
  SPEAKER_23: Um, and you know, so they want to give everybody like free GP coverage, um, which is going to be hugely expensive.
• 2:51:21
  SPEAKER_23: The one thing they want to do is give uh universal childcare free, um, free childcare, but it won't be free.
• 2:51:28
  SPEAKER_23: Um, it just means the taxpayers will be paying for it.
• 2:51:31
  SPEAKER_23: And one estimate is that this will cost five billion dollars a year.
• 2:51:35
  SPEAKER_23: Now, if you think that the state government currently spends about$35 billion, and it's already borrowing, you know, a billion dollars, you know, to towards that, then we've got to find all this extra money from somewhere.
• 2:51:48
  SPEAKER_23: Now, if you look at the document, it says, well, we're gonna tax the rich more heavily.
• 2:51:51
  SPEAKER_23: If you think that about five guys in North Branch or wherever are gonna, or Minnetonka, are gonna pay five or six billion dollars a year in extra taxes, you're nuts.
• 2:52:02
  SPEAKER_23: It's not gonna happen.
• 2:52:03
  SPEAKER_23: So the only way this gets paid for is with heavy taxes on Minnesota's middle class.
• 2:52:08
  SPEAKER_23: It's gonna be a huge tax hike.
• 2:52:10
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go to the uh to the blaster line uh before we wrap up here with and really enjoyed the conversation with John Fuelin this morning.
• 2:52:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh question going back to our our opening uh discussion.
• 2:52:20
  SPEAKER_18: Hey John, could you ask your guest what he thinks about the British government arresting people for social media posts and yet turning a blind eye to the migrant problem?
• 2:52:32
  SPEAKER_18: Just curious what he thinks.
• 2:52:33
  SPEAKER_06: I know we touched upon this a little bit uh earlier, but if you had any further thoughts on that you wanted to share, John.
• 2:52:38
  SPEAKER_23: Well, I think it's absolutely disgusting.
• 2:52:39
  SPEAKER_23: Um we've forgotten, I think, um, or you know, maybe the British have other people have not forgotten that.
• 2:52:45
  SPEAKER_23: But the purpose of a government is to protect its citizens, or subjects if they're British, you know.
• 2:52:51
  SPEAKER_23: Um it's not to be indifferent uh between the fates of a subject and somebody else.
• 2:52:59
  SPEAKER_23: And what you have in in the British situation is that it will sacrifice its own subjects, its own citizens, if it will make somebody else better off, which is not what a government's supposed to do.
• 2:53:11
  SPEAKER_23: A government is supposed to prioritize the interests of its people.
• 2:53:15
  SPEAKER_23: Um and so I think it's absolutely disgusting what's happening in Britain.
• 2:53:18
  SPEAKER_23: It makes me so sad.
• 2:53:19
  SPEAKER_06: I had a uh I'll leave you with this, and I have to do a little bit more digging.
• 2:53:23
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but getting back to Minnesota and policies, potential fraud, paid family medical leave.
• 2:53:28
  SPEAKER_06: I saw a data point yesterday online, and I'm waiting to get confirmation on this that allegedly some 40% of 911 staffers in Minneapolis are currently taking paid family medical leave on this.
• 2:53:40
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm waiting to get further data on that.
• 2:53:42
  SPEAKER_06: But if that's true, that is a that's a stunning number and a frightening development, but one that a lot of us predicted on this particular issue.
• 2:53:48
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know when we're gonna talk about this either, but I figured I'd throw it at you before we wrap things up.
• 2:53:52
  SPEAKER_06: Before we wrap things up today, the paid family medical leave program, John, just for the for just for the record, uh that's out of all the stuff that's been passed by the DFL, that's probably the one that sticks in my side more than any of the other uh men any of the other policies is paid family medical leave.
• 2:54:07
  SPEAKER_06: I just I can't believe that they passed it, and it's infuriating that a program that I don't need to take advantage of, I cannot stop the government from taking money out of my paycheck.
• 2:54:15
  SPEAKER_06: It's just it's it's so egregious, but that's me.
• 2:54:18
  SPEAKER_23: Yeah, and I I I get messages from people uh actually who who are worse off than they were before because they had a superior arrangement that got scrubbed and now they're bumped into this other thing.
• 2:54:30
  SPEAKER_23: Um and actually if you look at I mean the the the reason it is it it's kind of you know meeting its budget at the moment is because it's essentially a redistribution system.
• 2:54:40
  SPEAKER_23: So if you the higher your income, the less time you take off, but you're paying in, and that's just basically being kicked back to people on lower incomes who are taking more time off.
• 2:54:49
  SPEAKER_23: Um now, I mean, fine, but that's not really an you know, is that an insurance system or is it a redistribution system?
• 2:54:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
• 2:54:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh never a dull moment uh here in Minnesota when it comes to covering the the news of the day, uh the day, right?
• 2:55:02
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so John Phelan, our economist here at uh Center of the American Experiment.
• 2:55:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, thank you so much for coming in early and spending some time with us and allowing me to take a few uh a few tangents you weren't expecting.
• 2:55:12
  SPEAKER_06: I greatly appreciate it and would love to continue some uh conversations like that in the future if you're up for it.
• 2:55:16
  SPEAKER_23: Absolutely.
• 2:55:17
  SPEAKER_23: Thanks for having me.
• 2:55:17
  SPEAKER_06: We can take a show and talk about Tony Blair.
• 2:55:19
  SPEAKER_06: I'd love to dive into if you're gonna see the wish I had the camera on your face at that moment.
• 2:55:24
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you, John Phelan.
• 2:55:26
  SPEAKER_06: Uh head on over to AmericanExperiment.org and uh you can see uh the articles that we were talking about uh this morning and uh more of what John Phelan writes at the website.
• 2:55:35
  SPEAKER_06: It's fantastic stuff.
• 2:55:36
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 2:55:37
  SPEAKER_06: So getting ready to wrap up the show for a uh Wednesday, we do have uh some candidates joining us on tomorrow's show.
• 2:55:44
  SPEAKER_06: Also on tomorrow's show, we'll dive into further detail on this story that I didn't get a chance to talk about today.
• 2:55:49
  SPEAKER_06: Minnesota ranked thirty third nationally in a heritage foundation report on education freedom with a low ranking of forty fourth in education choice.
• 2:55:59
  SPEAKER_06: That's by design.
• 2:56:00
  SPEAKER_06: The report considered transparency, teacher freedom, return on investment, civic education.
• 2:56:06
  SPEAKER_06: Florida topping the rankings for a fifth consecutive year.
• 2:56:10
  SPEAKER_06: The foundation urges states to prioritize school choice and civics instruction.
• 2:56:15
  SPEAKER_06: So we look at the categories, and again, we'll talk about this in much more detail tomorrow.
• 2:56:19
  SPEAKER_06: Forty-fourth in education choice, 25th in transparency.
• 2:56:24
  SPEAKER_06: The lowest one on the list, by the way.
• 2:56:27
  SPEAKER_06: Teacher freedom, 18th.
• 2:56:28
  SPEAKER_06: Why does that not surprising?
• 2:56:30
  SPEAKER_06: Based off of all the propaganda that ends up inside of our public education system.
• 2:56:35
  SPEAKER_06: 38th in return on investment and 30th on civil education.
• 2:56:41
  SPEAKER_06: For the fifth year in a row, in case you're wondering, Florida topped the rankings, which is why so many people in Minnesota end up moving uh to Florida.
• 2:56:48
  SPEAKER_06: And I want to remind you that if you want to improve uh improve the life of a K through 12 student attending a private school, there is a$7,000 scholarship just waiting for you to take advantage of.
• 2:56:59
  SPEAKER_06: And all you have to do is spend a fantastic Sunday afternoon with Center of the American Experiment in Plymouth for the 7K for kids fun run.
• 2:57:09
  SPEAKER_06: It starts around 1 o'clock.
• 2:57:11
  SPEAKER_06: You can head on over to AmericanExperiment.org to sign up and get more information.
• 2:57:15
  SPEAKER_06: This is a family-friendly event promoting our$7,000 ESA proposal to improve Minnesota education and give parents the power of school choice.
• 2:57:26
  SPEAKER_06: And again, looking at that data.
• 2:57:28
  SPEAKER_06: 44th in education choice.
• 2:57:30
  SPEAKER_06: This is an opportunity to better the life of a student here in Minnesota by simply running a 7K, or maybe not so simply.
• 2:57:38
  SPEAKER_06: More simply walking a 5K, or even simpler, enjoying a zero-mile on the main area with face painting, music, refreshments, inflatables for the uh for the for the kids.
• 2:57:49
  SPEAKER_06: Enter the raffle to win$7,000.
• 2:57:51
  SPEAKER_06: It's a scholarship for a K through 12 student in your life attending a private school.
• 2:57:56
  SPEAKER_06: Head on over to AmericanExperiment.org and check out uh this amazing opportunity coming up this Sunday.
• 2:58:02
  SPEAKER_06: It's supposed to be an incredibly gorgeous weekend.
• 2:58:04
  SPEAKER_06: A nice warm weekend.
• 2:58:05
  SPEAKER_06: Take advantage, one last uh gasp before the cold winter months arrive.
• 2:58:10
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you for all of the participation today via the blaster line.
• 2:58:15
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• 2:58:18
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• 2:58:24
  SPEAKER_06: You can watch a replay of the show at Center the American Experiments Rumble, Facebook, and YouTube pages as well.
• 2:58:31
  SPEAKER_06: And of course, you can leave me comments throughout the day and overnight at 651-964-0294.
• 2:58:38
  SPEAKER_06: And always you can email john.justice at americanexperiment.org.
• 2:58:42
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's close things out with the latest from my AI band.
• 2:58:48
  SPEAKER_06: I call them Sad Milkshake Weekend.
• 2:58:52
  SPEAKER_06: We're doing protest songs the right way here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
• 2:58:58
  SPEAKER_06: Enjoy, don't say they're Somali.
• 2:59:01
  SPEAKER_06: I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning.
• 2:59:05
  SPEAKER_13: And up until now they've had it pretty great.
• 2:59:09
  SPEAKER_13: Started with feeding our future and the fancy sadies, but then came the fraud and a lack of accountability.
• 2:59:18
  SPEAKER_13: But don't go stay in the somebody.
• 2:59:23
  SPEAKER_13: Even if it's factual you see.
• 2:59:26
  SPEAKER_13: And even though it may not stay on an ID, and the countries, flag waves, and rallies.
• 2:59:34
  SPEAKER_13: Don't dare stay.
• 2:59:38
  SPEAKER_13: There's somebody And there's the game activity.
• 2:59:46
  SPEAKER_13: From carjacking rides on the streets of the Twin Cities, shooting of high school games, gas stations in Eden Prairies.
• 2:59:56
  SPEAKER_13: Comes a blade in denial, it's from very more.
• 2:59:59
  SPEAKER_13: But don't go stay in festival.
• 3:00:04
  SPEAKER_13: Even if it's back to you, speech.
• 3:00:07
  SPEAKER_13: And even though it may not stay it on an idea, and I'll hunt all my swords allegiance to the rally.
• 3:00:42
  SPEAKER_13: Should I build the glass?
• 3:00:52
  SPEAKER_13: Do it all the camp, put it in to eat.
• 3:01:02
  SPEAKER_13: Stay lost, fill you see.
• 3:01:05
  SPEAKER_13: You might be told that it will be the legacy.
• 3:01:13
  SPEAKER_13: Don't you say?
• 3:01:55
  SPEAKER_06: And again, thank you so much for hanging out on the show today.
• 3:01:58
  SPEAKER_06: Have yourself a fantastic Wednesday.
• 3:02:00
  SPEAKER_06: God bless! See you and univers.
• 3:02:02
  SPEAKER_06: I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning at 6 a.m.