Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #578 - Rome Streetz & Conductor Williams Break Down New Project, State of Hip-Hop, Griselda, & Drake
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's go through like CAVS special guests here, these.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Guys got an incredible album, one of the best albums
- 0:05Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. Conductor Williams Rome Streets Trainspotting is out.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, fellas, but thank yeah.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Of course, of course, of course, Rome. I gotta say, well,
- 0:18Speaker 2: first of all, both of you guys have been on
- 0:19Speaker 2: such an insane run. I would say the better part
- 0:22Speaker 2: of the last six or seven years. Man, what was
- 0:26Speaker 2: like the initial because I feel like there's so much
- 0:30Speaker 2: synergy between Obviously, you know, Conductor, you are very much
- 0:34Speaker 2: in the Griselda uniform verse. Rome, you are, you know,
- 0:37Speaker 2: obviously in the universe. You know, you've put out music
- 0:40Speaker 2: through Griselda. Was this something that has been in the
- 0:42Speaker 2: works for a long time or was it something that's
- 0:44Speaker 2: like relatively like recent, you guys decided to like lock
- 0:46Speaker 2: in and just bang out a whole project.
- 0:50Speaker 3: We've been cooking this for a while, like the same
- 0:53Speaker 3: probably like right after I finished Kiss.
- 0:56Speaker 1: The Ring, like twenty twenty two.
- 0:58Speaker 4: Yeah, cooking songs every week.
- 1:03Speaker 2: When do you feel like, like, Okay, the album's done,
- 1:07Speaker 2: Like now we got to go find a home for it.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Like this thing is finished.
- 1:12Speaker 4: What's you think, man? I think we kind of conceptualized
- 1:15Speaker 4: it because we just making songs. That's what that's what's crazy,
- 1:18Speaker 4: song is making songs.
- 1:20Speaker 5: The album was never done.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a folder.
- 1:24Speaker 4: There's like there's a literally it's like, damn, we got
- 1:28Speaker 4: forty two songs in here? What do you want to
- 1:30Speaker 4: do with them? Like?
- 1:32Speaker 5: How?
- 1:32Speaker 4: Like what the fuck are we doing? Sorry? What you want?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Of course the internet question.
- 1:40Speaker 4: But now that's what it kind of that's from my perspective.
- 1:43Speaker 5: No, that's what it was.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Do you guys?
- 1:46Speaker 2: I'm curious, like because obviously you've done collap projects Roam,
- 1:51Speaker 2: You've done a whole album with Darrener, You've done obviously
- 1:53Speaker 2: collap projects with Ransom and what what?
- 1:56Speaker 1: What was kind of I guess, like.
- 1:58Speaker 2: You know, the chemistry like between you guys, that might
- 2:00Speaker 2: kind of different than some of the cloud projects you've
- 2:01Speaker 2: done in the past.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I think were Conductor, Like I was just a super
- 2:08Speaker 3: fan of his ship before I even started working with him.
- 2:12Speaker 3: And then how we met It was just like we
- 2:14Speaker 3: met in the studio and then he was just playing
- 2:18Speaker 3: a bunch of beats and I'm sitting there.
- 2:19Speaker 5: Like, damn, what ship?
- 2:20Speaker 3: Is fucking fire and shit and me and and West
- 2:23Speaker 3: is like listening to beats too, But I'm just like, yo,
- 2:28Speaker 3: every single beat he played for like the past hour
- 2:30Speaker 3: and a half is just heat, Like where the fuck
- 2:34Speaker 3: do I even start to beget him?
- 2:36Speaker 5: Like yo, which one was that?
- 2:38Speaker 4: Like?
- 2:38Speaker 3: So it was like I was just blown away by
- 2:41Speaker 3: how many fucking five beats he has. And then we
- 2:44Speaker 3: started making ship and then he just kept sending me
- 2:47Speaker 3: shit and I'm like, yo, like every beat is ill,
- 2:50Speaker 3: Like I don't even fucking know, Like I don't know, bro,
- 2:54Speaker 3: Me and conductor just just happens, and.
- 2:59Speaker 4: Then you know you have meet I guess in life,
- 3:02Speaker 4: but even just like in this industry, it's rare that
- 3:04Speaker 4: you meet somebody in like the the connection thing happens right, like,
- 3:08Speaker 4: oh man, we might be from the same tribe or
- 3:10Speaker 4: the same planet or whatever. It's like that is the
- 3:13Speaker 4: bond that I feel I have with him. Immediately was like, man,
- 3:18Speaker 4: you're from where I'm from, like cousins or something. And
- 3:21Speaker 4: it's just easy to send my ideas to Rome, Like
- 3:24Speaker 4: I'll be sending shit to Roam that I don't put
- 3:25Speaker 4: on tapes. I send my craziest ideas to him, do.
- 3:30Speaker 2: You it's crazy too, because you know, I feel like nowadays,
- 3:34Speaker 2: more than ever as a producer, I feel like OL's
- 3:38Speaker 2: kind of really kind of like lay like a great
- 3:42Speaker 2: blueprint like how you can be a producer and do
- 3:45Speaker 2: these collab albums and drop exclusive vinyl and like really
- 3:47Speaker 2: tap into like fan bases because I feel like, you know,
- 3:51Speaker 2: there's so much like and you probably know this, but
- 3:53Speaker 2: you've been lucky enough to kind of be a part
- 3:58Speaker 2: of a universe that's very support of music. But you know,
- 4:00Speaker 2: there's the producer grind of try to get placements and
- 4:03Speaker 2: like sending beats out or sending loops out and all
- 4:06Speaker 2: this shit, as opposed to like, I feel like there's
- 4:09Speaker 2: a new lane where you could curate your audience, collaborate
- 4:12Speaker 2: with who you want to, and then super serve those people.
- 4:15Speaker 4: Ye know, now there is an al like he's such
- 4:18Speaker 4: a like legend. Me and my boy Less was talking
- 4:21Speaker 4: about him at lunch today. He is. It's like what
- 4:25Speaker 4: he's done is it takes It's gonna take a light
- 4:28Speaker 4: year for anybody to catch up with, just because of
- 4:30Speaker 4: all the classic material he has already. If he stopped
- 4:33Speaker 4: and never made another record, he would have so much
- 4:37Speaker 4: classic music, had so many eras in so many eras,
- 4:40Speaker 4: and if you listen to his records, you can see
- 4:42Speaker 4: and feel him reinventing himself and reinventing himself. So, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 4: thank god he laid it all kind of out for us.
- 4:50Speaker 4: But West Side Gun had a lot to do with
- 4:52Speaker 4: with that too.
- 4:54Speaker 2: You know, It's funny because me and I were just
- 4:55Speaker 2: talking maybe last week we're hanging out, and he.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Had brought up Gun. He was like, yo, like low key.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Him and Gun were like sharing ideas early on about
- 5:06Speaker 2: like the vinyl distributors that they would use because Gun
- 5:10Speaker 2: was like probably the first rapper on like a real
- 5:12Speaker 2: independent front that was doing those limited runs of records.
- 5:16Speaker 4: Yeah, he cracked the code man early. He cracked the
- 5:19Speaker 4: code early. Bro Man, What what's uh?
- 5:24Speaker 1: I mean? You guys got a show in LA that's tomorrow.
- 5:25Speaker 2: You guys doing a limited shows?
- 5:29Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 5:30Speaker 2: What should be dope? How how's the responsibility the album?
- 5:33Speaker 2: It feels like people are loving it.
- 5:34Speaker 3: I caught the vinyl yeah, trust me, all that guy's
- 5:39Speaker 3: positive feedback.
- 5:40Speaker 5: You know, people can't wait to see it live.
- 5:43Speaker 2: What about besides, you know, shout out to mass appeal
- 5:46Speaker 2: because they are on a pretty insane run of like
- 5:50Speaker 2: there's a big L album on the way, there's a
- 5:52Speaker 2: lot of Deep album all the way, ghost Face album
- 5:54Speaker 2: all the way, Ray Kwan's out. Y'all dropped fucking Slick
- 5:59Speaker 2: Rick drop those Sick project and it was nice and quick.
- 6:04Speaker 2: But what was it about master Pill that made sense
- 6:06Speaker 2: for you guys to to land this project with them?
- 6:10Speaker 1: Did you guys could have did it. I'm sure anywhere.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Yeah, they just was talking right, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:15Speaker 3: And I feel like because they've worked with them, there
- 6:18Speaker 3: everybody that I look at as like legendary, I didn't
- 6:23Speaker 3: mind doing something with them. I feel like everybody has
- 6:26Speaker 3: done something with Massa Pill. You could name like Rock Marciono,
- 6:29Speaker 3: freaking Nas, push a T drop the album on master Pill.
- 6:32Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like so many people.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Have been through those doors and kind of just like
- 6:38Speaker 3: elevated after that.
- 6:39Speaker 5: It's kind of like like a springboard.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Even if you know, it was just a good place
- 6:44Speaker 3: to be because they have such a good track record
- 6:46Speaker 3: of putting out fire shit good products.
- 6:49Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't really opposed to not going over there.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I saw you were hanging out at the block party
- 6:55Speaker 2: where the clips were before Oh yeah, were able to
- 6:57Speaker 2: chop it.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Up with Oh no, no.
- 6:59Speaker 3: I was just there because Tremaine is my homeboy, you know,
- 7:03Speaker 3: the guy who owns Dent Tears or whatever.
- 7:05Speaker 5: Where popped up?
- 7:07Speaker 2: Were you, uh?
- 7:08Speaker 1: Because you are big? We were talking before the cameras roll.
- 7:11Speaker 1: You're a big hell Hath No Fury guy?
- 7:12Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I met Push your Teeth before though.
- 7:14Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, where do you put this album that?
- 7:17Speaker 2: Because everyone's I mean, are you putting it above hell
- 7:20Speaker 2: Hath No Fury?
- 7:21Speaker 5: You know what it is? It's like I like the
- 7:23Speaker 5: new album.
- 7:24Speaker 3: It's definitely fired from top to bottom, but Hell Have
- 7:27Speaker 3: No Fury just just.
- 7:29Speaker 5: That time period that it came out, you know what
- 7:31Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 7:31Speaker 3: It's like there's like I said, it's like a great
- 7:35Speaker 3: time piece for me, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 7:37Speaker 3: just for me, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
- 7:39Speaker 3: I really liked that album, you know what I'm saying.
- 7:42Speaker 3: So I feel like this one has to grow on
- 7:45Speaker 3: me more because I still listen to that other one
- 7:49Speaker 3: to Hell Have No Fury, Like I'll ride around and
- 7:51Speaker 3: play that ship just randomly, you know what I'm saying. Still,
- 7:54Speaker 3: I feel like this one ain't been out long enough.
- 7:57Speaker 3: I can't just put it above that right away because
- 7:59Speaker 3: I hold that other album so high. It's like I
- 8:03Speaker 3: kind of gotta have the same moments with it. Like
- 8:05Speaker 3: ten years from now, am I gonna be playing that
- 8:08Speaker 3: album is damn near twenty years old.
- 8:10Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's so crazy that.
- 8:12Speaker 5: That was twenty about to be twenty years ago.
- 8:15Speaker 1: So I mean, Lord Willing came out when I was
- 8:17Speaker 1: in high school.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that was like early high school for
- 8:21Speaker 2: me too. I remember that city with the with the
- 8:24Speaker 2: rim and shit was skipping.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Doesn't sound dated though, if you listen to her haf
- 8:29Speaker 3: No Fury, it doesn't sound like some of the other
- 8:32Speaker 3: shit that probably came out.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Except the Dirty Money we talked about.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I was like, Dirty Money is the only record that
- 8:39Speaker 1: did not age.
- 8:39Speaker 2: The greatest off that album, Conductor, we were talking a
- 8:43Speaker 2: little bit. I don't know like how much you can share,
- 8:44Speaker 2: but you have other stuff in the chamber in terms
- 8:47Speaker 2: of collab projects with artists. Is there anybody else who
- 8:51Speaker 2: you can kind of talk about that you have anything
- 8:54Speaker 2: tucked with.
- 8:59Speaker 4: That's anything I can talk about. That's safe. Uh, got
- 9:04Speaker 4: a lot of music. I got a lot of music,
- 9:06Speaker 4: you know. So for the fans of my my sound
- 9:09Speaker 4: and stuff, it's a lot coming.
- 9:11Speaker 5: Uh.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Corday and I have a lot of songs, and Ransom
- 9:16Speaker 4: and I have a lot of songs.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Fire and go to Ransom Man, your guys' album's crazy.
- 9:22Speaker 4: And I'm talking about things I can control. These are
- 9:25Speaker 4: albums that I can control. It's not placements. It's like
- 9:29Speaker 4: a collap thing. I can tell you all about those.
- 9:31Speaker 4: And those are the two that that I can talk about. Fine,
- 9:34Speaker 4: I'm always sending music to him. Rome.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Is there another producer who you would like you already
- 9:39Speaker 2: like to check off the list that I think would
- 9:41Speaker 2: be I think you and Evidence would be Fire.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Homie Man, we got we got stuff.
- 9:46Speaker 3: I got stuff with EV.
- 9:49Speaker 5: That's a high possibility to get that. You know what
- 9:51Speaker 5: I'm saying. We'd be cooking, Like every time I come
- 9:53Speaker 5: out here, I'll be tapping in with EV. So we
- 9:55Speaker 5: got ship. Who else I want to do some shit?
- 10:00Speaker 5: Pete Rock that would be crazy? Yeah, Uh, of course Alchemists.
- 10:06Speaker 2: The Pete Rock Smoke is an album that came out
- 10:08Speaker 2: I forget how what year that was, but that ship
- 10:10Speaker 2: is so slept on. There was a couple of them, right,
- 10:13Speaker 2: I just remember that first Smoke Disnit Pete Rock album
- 10:15Speaker 2: was crazy.
- 10:17Speaker 4: And the Pea.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Shout out to Pete Rock.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Some producer even rock Marci for sure, not even just
- 10:26Speaker 3: on no rapping ship like him as a producer.
- 10:30Speaker 5: Some ship that.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Should be crazy. Yo.
- 10:35Speaker 2: You know when it came to you working with Drake,
- 10:37Speaker 2: did Katie have anything to do with that?
- 10:40Speaker 1: No, because I always do.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Katie was like the executive producer of like the Deluxe
- 10:45Speaker 2: But I know he's like super tapped in on the
- 10:47Speaker 2: boom back.
- 10:49Speaker 4: So I just wondered if but no, Okay, now that
- 10:52Speaker 4: was like a direct. He just reached out to me direct.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yo, let's let's try to get into something.
- 10:57Speaker 4: I'm like, all.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Right, I mean you gave him, like my opinion, like
- 11:00Speaker 2: that's some of the best Drake of the last decade
- 11:03Speaker 2: for sure.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Yeah, there's more. There's there's more coming, There's more. I
- 11:07Speaker 4: don't know if y'all ever go here.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Do you have anything? Do you have anything on ice?
- 11:11Speaker 3: Man?
- 11:12Speaker 1: Are there conductor beats on?
- 11:14Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know anything about music
- 11:17Speaker 4: or anything. Just like watch the Whole Boyd, I don't
- 11:20Speaker 4: know nothing about answer of all, the list doesn't exist.
- 11:26Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Why are we talking about even though I just said
- 11:29Speaker 2: there's more away, it's like, yeah, there's more, there's more.
- 11:32Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 11:33Speaker 4: No. Look, look, I go where I'm loved. I go
- 11:36Speaker 4: where my services are needed and people know that, so,
- 11:41Speaker 4: you know, hopefully so I would love to be a
- 11:42Speaker 4: part of that record.
- 11:43Speaker 2: But there are other Drake Conductor records that are in
- 11:46Speaker 2: the world that have not you don't know if we'll
- 11:49Speaker 2: ever see them, but they.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in the world.
- 11:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:52Speaker 4: The one was the Fighting Irish Ship that right, you
- 11:56Speaker 4: know what I mean? Yeah?
- 11:57Speaker 1: Are you a Lebron fan?
- 11:59Speaker 2: I am so when you hear the Fighting Irish because again,
- 12:02Speaker 2: it was solid. But I just wonder, like it's almost
- 12:06Speaker 2: like if someone you know, it's like, that's Lebron, you
- 12:09Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have no like qualm with either
- 12:13Speaker 4: one of those guys. Like, yeah, I worked with Drake.
- 12:14Speaker 4: It's a professional relationship and he's really cool and really
- 12:17Speaker 4: nice to me and stuff. But yeah, I'm working for
- 12:21Speaker 4: hire at this point. It's not like I came in
- 12:23Speaker 4: the game with Ovo and I've been there this whole time.
- 12:26Speaker 1: For sure.
- 12:27Speaker 4: It's like I'm working for hire. He could say, you're
- 12:29Speaker 4: not forty. I never want another beat from you again,
- 12:33Speaker 4: you know, type shit. So but no, I love Lebron
- 12:35Speaker 4: and what he's done in the career. I think honestly,
- 12:38Speaker 4: any grown man would want a career and they're what
- 12:41Speaker 4: they love doing it, like how he did his I
- 12:44Speaker 4: love Lebron. He's my favorite place. He's tough man. I'll
- 12:46Speaker 4: be watching him and be proud, like, yo, you out
- 12:49Speaker 4: there doing forty years old. I wish I could do that.
- 12:51Speaker 2: You know, did you ever connect with uh? Like Tech
- 12:55Speaker 2: nine and those guys coming up in the casey.
- 12:57Speaker 4: Just recently, like just recently as of twenty twenty four,
- 13:02Speaker 4: Tech reached out. But I mean, I'll be trying to
- 13:06Speaker 4: explain this, bro, and maybe it'll come out on your
- 13:09Speaker 4: cast here. But I'm just in the basement making beats,
- 13:13Speaker 4: you know. And I'd like cook, cook, cooking and share
- 13:17Speaker 4: and the fans have been so receptive to it, but
- 13:20Speaker 4: I don't really reach out. And it's not like disrespect,
- 13:23Speaker 4: but I just didn't. There was a time in my
- 13:25Speaker 4: life where I did in Kansas City go to the
- 13:28Speaker 4: Tech nine shows. I'm standing out front with my seat,
- 13:31Speaker 4: beat CD and stuff, and I was overlooked. So I
- 13:34Speaker 4: think a lot of that is just like, Yo, I
- 13:36Speaker 4: just stopped at one point, I just stopped submitting. I
- 13:39Speaker 4: stopped asking people to be on records. But last year
- 13:43Speaker 4: Tech reached out and was like, Yo, we're gonna get
- 13:45Speaker 4: to something like let's give let's give them a show.
- 13:48Speaker 4: So that's exciting too.
- 13:49Speaker 1: That would be big, big case man.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exciting, bro. I'm excited to work with them.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Would would you and Ransom do a sequel to your
- 13:57Speaker 1: Guys project?
- 14:00Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 14:00Speaker 3: I'm not knocking it at the table. It could, it
- 14:03Speaker 3: could be done.
- 14:04Speaker 4: I feel like I appreciate it.
- 14:06Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, sure, yeah, one hundred percent.
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- 14:55Speaker 2: Do you guys feel like because it feels like we're
- 14:57Speaker 2: in this like kind of dope renaissance of like I guess,
- 15:02Speaker 2: like fans like really giving the fuck about lyrics again,
- 15:05Speaker 2: And you know, I feel like there's this whole new
- 15:09Speaker 2: world that's outside of streaming where artists can be extremely
- 15:11Speaker 2: successful and and make great money and be millionaires without
- 15:15Speaker 2: worrying about having a number one record. And I think
- 15:18Speaker 2: a lot of that had to do with the beef
- 15:19Speaker 2: last year. It kind of made a lot of people
- 15:20Speaker 2: pay attention to lyrics again. But do y'all how do
- 15:22Speaker 2: y'all feel like being quote unquote like you know, boom
- 15:25Speaker 2: Back or real hip hop artists, Like that's like a
- 15:28Speaker 2: label that I feel like is whack as fuck, but
- 15:30Speaker 2: it is one that does exist. Do you feel like
- 15:33Speaker 2: it's a good time for hip hop?
- 15:36Speaker 3: Hell yeah, it's great honestly because the people that are
- 15:42Speaker 3: doing this at a high level can still be in
- 15:46Speaker 3: the same rooms and get the same ears that the
- 15:48Speaker 3: mainstream people are getting.
- 15:50Speaker 5: You understand them saying like.
- 15:53Speaker 3: I may not be the most famous rapper, but damn
- 15:56Speaker 3: all the famous rappers that are like.
- 15:58Speaker 5: Know me when I meet there, They're like, fuck with
- 16:00Speaker 5: this shit. You know what I'm saying. Like I've done
- 16:02Speaker 5: songs with Super Dup, you know what I mean. People
- 16:04Speaker 5: who I look.
- 16:05Speaker 3: At it is like big you know what I'm saying.
- 16:07Speaker 3: So it's like there's really no ciling on this now.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Before there was like a ceiling.
- 16:12Speaker 5: You understand.
- 16:12Speaker 3: I'm saying like, oh, you can do this and that,
- 16:14Speaker 3: but now you can. You could go far.
- 16:18Speaker 5: Bro, you got a song with Drake several You.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Understand I'm saying like shit, like real big mainstream rappers
- 16:27Speaker 3: follow me on ig all the time. Like, so at
- 16:30Speaker 3: the end of the day, there's no limit to where
- 16:32Speaker 3: this could go.
- 16:33Speaker 5: It's just about wanting to do it. And at the
- 16:35Speaker 5: end of the day, the Internet makes the Internet makes
- 16:39Speaker 5: it so easy to reach everybody.
- 16:42Speaker 3: So even if you're not going to mainstream route, there's
- 16:44Speaker 3: still enough people on the Internet that like this shit,
- 16:47Speaker 3: that will buy a CD, that will buy vinyl, they
- 16:51Speaker 3: buy fucking cassette tape. So a lot of people don't
- 16:53Speaker 3: even want to stream, they want to download it and
- 16:56Speaker 3: like pay you for the album, you know what I mean. Like,
- 16:58Speaker 3: there's so many different things that you could do with
- 17:01Speaker 3: music instead of going to traditional route to make money
- 17:04Speaker 3: that you just gotta know, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:06Speaker 3: You got to know like who your target audience is
- 17:10Speaker 3: and feed them because they did, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Like I've been all over the world at this point,
- 17:16Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I've been to fucking Japan,
- 17:18Speaker 3: I've been to fucking Georgia. I've been to freaking Poland.
- 17:21Speaker 3: I've been to Italy. You know what i mean, I've
- 17:25Speaker 3: been mad places just off of wrapping.
- 17:27Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Who was the craziest person that you met or that
- 17:32Speaker 2: like followed you where you were like, oh shit, like
- 17:34Speaker 2: that's crazy.
- 17:35Speaker 5: And at this point, Shitnas.
- 17:38Speaker 3: I got mad man Like it was like it wasn't
- 17:43Speaker 3: just like a random like you know, I mean, it's like, Yo,
- 17:46Speaker 3: Nas wants to meet you. I was like, you know
- 17:48Speaker 3: what I mean, like, oh shit, I met him. He's like,
- 17:49Speaker 3: You're wrong, Like I fuck with your ship. Like every
- 17:52Speaker 3: time I see him, he's like, Yo, that's fun.
- 17:54Speaker 5: It's hard. I'm like, Yo, that's crazy. This is Nas
- 17:57Speaker 5: right now, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:58Speaker 3: So that, honestly, that's probably the most craziest what uh
- 18:04Speaker 3: you guys?
- 18:04Speaker 2: Getting metha manon this album is dope. I think Math
- 18:06Speaker 2: is like I want to see Math go on like
- 18:09Speaker 2: a renaissance run where he just is like because I
- 18:12Speaker 2: just watched him perform on this thirty six chambers.
- 18:14Speaker 1: He goes crazy, he goes he looks like he's thirty,
- 18:17Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And every time he steps
- 18:19Speaker 1: outside and does a feature, it's fucking insane.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Is it?
- 18:25Speaker 1: What what with that feature? Like how did that come about?
- 18:28Speaker 2: And conductor do you have do you have any other
- 18:30Speaker 2: music with methemn yes mm hm.
- 18:33Speaker 3: So I've previously done a joint with meth before, you
- 18:37Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I met him and then
- 18:42Speaker 3: he's like, you're rom I love what you're doing.
- 18:44Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I've spoken publicly about metha mane. He's probably quote wind
- 18:48Speaker 3: of it and know what I'm saying.
- 18:49Speaker 5: Like, so.
- 18:51Speaker 3: I had to beat and I'm like, it just reminded
- 18:55Speaker 3: me of some like some Wu Tang s.
- 18:57Speaker 5: I'm like, I.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Need somebody on Wu Tang to get on this song. Yeah,
- 19:01Speaker 3: I mean it's like, who's the person that I know.
- 19:05Speaker 3: It's like, you know what, send it to me.
- 19:07Speaker 5: I sent it to him.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Literally, it wasn't even twenty four hours.
- 19:13Speaker 5: He sent it back and he sent me.
- 19:15Speaker 3: A video like Rome that versus Crazy, Like I got you,
- 19:20Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill this shit.
- 19:21Speaker 1: He sent you a video of him like yes he no, he.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Just sent me a video of like after he heard it, like, Yo,
- 19:26Speaker 3: I got this ship is hard?
- 19:28Speaker 1: You killed it?
- 19:29Speaker 5: Got you?
- 19:30Speaker 1: He sent you a video?
- 19:31Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's like and even so like the first
- 19:35Speaker 3: album that my mother ever bought me out of the store,
- 19:38Speaker 3: like not a bootleg was met the man first album
- 19:41Speaker 3: I was a kid, She's like, what the fuck is like, Yo,
- 19:43Speaker 3: I need that meta man shit man. So it's like
- 19:46Speaker 3: just to be able to just send him a text
- 19:49Speaker 3: like Yo, I got a joint for you, I bet,
- 19:51Speaker 3: and he's gonna send it right back.
- 19:53Speaker 2: It's like, Yeah, I feel like you're stepping outside the
- 19:56Speaker 2: futures too. I heard I just heard you on I
- 20:00Speaker 2: think It's out there. If not, ask but you're on
- 20:03Speaker 2: the Joey album.
- 20:04Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, that guy.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Crazy body at work. You guys are also on that
- 20:10Speaker 1: static record, which is, Hey, you gotta stop the interview.
- 20:14Speaker 1: You want to give a shout out?
- 20:15Speaker 5: Man.
- 20:15Speaker 1: The only thing we smoke ladies and gentlemen is slap woods.
- 20:18Speaker 5: That's right.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Make sure you follow them at slap woods. And you
- 20:22Speaker 2: know the reason why we smoked flap woods. It's literally
- 20:25Speaker 2: because they slap You can't smoke a slap woods. What
- 20:28Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing?
- 20:29Speaker 1: Get back to you. How do you get around?
- 20:33Speaker 2: Because I always wonder these days because it feels like,
- 20:35Speaker 2: more than ever, the sampling ship is a little bit
- 20:40Speaker 2: more of an uphill battle. How do you kind of
- 20:44Speaker 2: still be the type of producer you are and get
- 20:48Speaker 2: through the sampling hurdles that releasing music on most I mean,
- 20:53Speaker 2: look Massive peal By all counts as boutique label, it's
- 20:56Speaker 2: like a major label.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Yeah, just got to use the humans man. I've been
- 21:01Speaker 4: saying that all this year. Is kind of like my
- 21:03Speaker 4: mantra going into uh producing, just like use more humans,
- 21:08Speaker 4: and uh that's just kind of where my head has been, like,
- 21:11Speaker 4: you let the musicians do their thing, and then I'll
- 21:15Speaker 4: manipulate it and do all of the things that I
- 21:18Speaker 4: do before it goes in the machine and then you know,
- 21:22Speaker 4: keeps going. But with technology, technology is easy, AI is
- 21:25Speaker 4: easy to use. But I just would rather use the
- 21:28Speaker 4: humans man, for real.
- 21:29Speaker 2: So so are you even like listening for samples anymore?
- 21:34Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 21:35Speaker 2: Yeah, so you find let's say you find a sample,
- 21:37Speaker 2: let's say it's something crazy, and you're like.
- 21:38Speaker 1: I don't know if you get this clear? Yeah, where
- 21:41Speaker 1: do the humans come into play?
- 21:42Speaker 4: Na napes? Look, this is how it go like this,
- 21:45Speaker 4: but we needed to go like this, and we need
- 21:48Speaker 4: it to you know, like.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Give me something similar to this or replay.
- 21:52Speaker 4: It, or we need something that feels like this. Yeah,
- 21:56Speaker 4: so not even like the chord progression. I need something
- 21:59Speaker 4: that feels like what I just made. So I'm still
- 22:01Speaker 4: digging in the crates. I'm still going to record stores.
- 22:04Speaker 4: I'm still doing that, and I'm sending these beat tapes
- 22:07Speaker 4: to the homies and it's like I need these records
- 22:10Speaker 4: to sound like this and feel like this, and then
- 22:12Speaker 4: they spit out ideas back, and that's like a great
- 22:16Speaker 4: form of collaboration, you know. It's like I send them
- 22:19Speaker 4: what I think and then they send me what's jamming,
- 22:22Speaker 4: and then I make a whole new beat again. So
- 22:24Speaker 4: it's a longer process, but two beats. Yeah, I'm essentially
- 22:29Speaker 4: making two beats until you get to the place where
- 22:31Speaker 4: it's Joey and he's like, Yo, do do whatever. Don't
- 22:35Speaker 4: worry about the same don't worry about Drake.
- 22:37Speaker 1: I'm sure Drake, same thing. It's like republics go clear.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what Wiz told me the same thing.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Joey told me the same thing. Of course, Drake, cole
- 22:45Speaker 4: Jed even They're like, yo, just do it and don't
- 22:47Speaker 4: worry about it. So I'm like, okay, that's even better.
- 22:51Speaker 4: You know.
- 22:51Speaker 1: That's like worry about this ship.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to it, man, you know. And then
- 22:58Speaker 4: the money obviously for the the younger producers for short.
- 23:02Speaker 4: If you guys are watching this, the money shorter on
- 23:05Speaker 4: the back end, you know, but I don't care about that.
- 23:08Speaker 4: It's like mister Beasts, Like my mindset with this whole
- 23:10Speaker 4: ship is like mister Beast, Like, put all of the
- 23:12Speaker 4: money back into that. Like, put all the money back
- 23:14Speaker 4: into that. Take all that money, put it all back
- 23:17Speaker 4: into that. So it don't make it, don't make wife
- 23:20Speaker 4: you happy. But everything's gonna be.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I don't even want to know how much this.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all this is AI stuff. So your jacket, Yeah,
- 23:33Speaker 4: everything is just and everything.
- 23:38Speaker 1: What you're saying, is it optical? It's was a wilfare
- 23:47Speaker 1: for for you?
- 23:48Speaker 5: Uh?
- 23:49Speaker 2: Rome, is there is there already? You already got like
- 23:51Speaker 2: kind of like the next year planned out. You already
- 23:53Speaker 2: kind of know what's in the chamber for you.
- 23:56Speaker 5: Yeah, halfway.
- 23:58Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm always working, so
- 24:02Speaker 3: it's always music laying around. You know what I'm saying,
- 24:04Speaker 3: There's always things. You know what I'm saying.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Are you still like signed to Griselda or is that
- 24:10Speaker 2: like for an album.
- 24:12Speaker 5: Griselda is just a crew.
- 24:14Speaker 2: It feels like it's a floating like jay Worthy, well
- 24:17Speaker 2: like put out ten albums and we're still waiting for his.
- 24:20Speaker 3: Gelda is just a collective of of I mean, Assassin
- 24:25Speaker 3: like MC's you know what I'm saying, Just a collective
- 24:28Speaker 3: of motherfuckers that get busy, you know what I mean.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Just because I'm over there doing some shit with Massive
- 24:33Speaker 3: Pill don't mean it's like not no Griselda ship.
- 24:37Speaker 5: I mean, at any given time, you could.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Probably hear me pop up on a West album somewhere,
- 24:41Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
- 24:42Speaker 5: So Griselda's like a It's like Rough Riders, bro.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Everybody on Rough Riders wasn't actually signed to Rough Riders.
- 24:50Speaker 5: Yeah, the Locks's just it's just a family.
- 24:53Speaker 1: That makes sense, that makes it.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I mean obviously I feel like that's I feel like
- 24:56Speaker 2: initially it was just the three guys, and then you
- 24:59Speaker 2: know you'd be like, oh ship jay Worthy from La
- 25:02Speaker 2: still wedding on that album, jay Worthy, who's on the album?
- 25:05Speaker 5: By the way, look at Boldie.
- 25:08Speaker 4: Every everywhere. Boldie is everywhere. I can't even keep up.
- 25:13Speaker 4: But the ship he just dropped with Nick Craven is dope.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Boldie is working man, all right. So you guys got
- 25:20Speaker 2: a couple of shows. I'm assuming it's it's just gonna
- 25:23Speaker 2: be a limited running shows for you guys with this,
- 25:25Speaker 2: With this album.
- 25:26Speaker 5: We're gonna do more shows. We're gonna I saw Chicago,
- 25:29Speaker 5: l A.
- 25:29Speaker 3: We got Chicago, we got LA. But there's definitely gonna
- 25:32Speaker 3: be more. These are just you know, the first two.
- 25:36Speaker 2: For you, conductor what like, because I feel like when
- 25:39Speaker 2: it comes to the live experience, as like a producer,
- 25:43Speaker 2: I think back to like back in the day, there
- 25:45Speaker 2: was a culturassac five be like DJ Newmark and Cut
- 25:48Speaker 2: chemists would have the n PC and they'd be doing
- 25:50Speaker 2: all kinds of ill ship, like what do you do
- 25:53Speaker 2: for the live show?
- 25:53Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what I'm about to do. So I'm
- 25:55Speaker 4: just gonna play the beats like that, uh Jeremy Ellis style,
- 26:00Speaker 4: a rap music style, those like guys that kind of
- 26:04Speaker 4: ushered back in the wave of like finger drumming. So
- 26:07Speaker 4: I got that bag, I got that bag. I just
- 26:10Speaker 4: never do it. So I'm gonna get So I'm gonna.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Samples himself and sings with the glasses naked.
- 26:20Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the world that he's crazy and it's good too.
- 26:26Speaker 4: It's good that should be Gemming.
- 26:27Speaker 2: He'll be in a coffee shop sampling himself and like, brod.
- 26:32Speaker 4: Yeah that ship that should be gemm. But that's that's
- 26:34Speaker 4: what y'all gonna see when you come to the Rome
- 26:37Speaker 4: Streets Conductor Williams show is it's gonna be a live
- 26:40Speaker 4: show with samples flying in and out and roam rapping.
- 26:44Speaker 4: Bro just don't stop rapping whatever happens, just keep going,
- 26:48Speaker 4: all right, Like I know what I'm doing. You just
- 26:51Speaker 4: keep rapping and then, uh, you know, like one of
- 26:54Speaker 4: those I've been watching a lot of Beastie Boys live
- 26:57Speaker 4: shows on YouTube and them ships are just they're everywhere
- 27:01Speaker 4: but super organized. You know, like there's modern beats flying
- 27:05Speaker 4: in and a cappella parts and it's that's the type
- 27:09Speaker 4: of vibe I want. Is that like just that feeling
- 27:12Speaker 4: of that hip hop feeling?
- 27:13Speaker 2: You know, Hey, we gotta wrap up this interview another
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- 28:01Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. Is Katie working on an.
- 28:03Speaker 4: Album Kevin Durant? Yes, I don't know what Kevin's I know,
- 28:08Speaker 4: I know it's a pretty good rapper. No, he can rap.
- 28:10Speaker 4: But I know one thing he is doing is prepping
- 28:13Speaker 4: for the season though, And it's really like that, my sons,
- 28:18Speaker 4: It's really like that. Kevin in Houston is gonna be
- 28:22Speaker 4: somebody I know.
- 28:23Speaker 5: I know.
- 28:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry to man when that hurted me, but
- 28:27Speaker 4: now you know how I feel as a dub Nation fan,
- 28:29Speaker 4: like you're a Warriors fan. Yeah, but basketball?
- 28:34Speaker 1: Wait, I don't know how you feel because you have
- 28:35Speaker 1: all these rings.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Do you remember when you told me when we first met,
- 28:38Speaker 4: and you were like, bro, why the fuck are you
- 28:40Speaker 4: a Warriors fan? I was like, Ken City ain't got
- 28:42Speaker 4: no teams, remember, And then you were like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 28:48Speaker 4: I mean we got rings. But when we when Kevin
- 28:50Speaker 4: left that, I was like, man, I got a.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Ring without him. Jordan Poole, I don't want to hear.
- 28:55Speaker 2: I mean, let's go Steph Curry's brother in law, David Lee, got.
- 29:04Speaker 1: A fucking ring.
- 29:05Speaker 4: And if we get Yannis, you ain't getting ship. If
- 29:08Speaker 4: we get Yannis, let's.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Go Minga so he could be overrated and overpay.
- 29:14Speaker 4: I like Kiminga dough, do you? Yeah? I do?
- 29:16Speaker 1: Seriously though, It's.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Like I like him when he's healthy and he's like
- 29:19Speaker 4: locked in.
- 29:20Speaker 1: And last year when Steph got hurt, he went off
- 29:23Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
- 29:23Speaker 4: Yeah he did. It's it's it seems like it's a
- 29:25Speaker 4: confidence thing.
- 29:27Speaker 1: I feel like it seems a relationship with Curris.
- 29:29Speaker 4: Soward seems like it's a confidence thing.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Talking about trading for him, like today.
- 29:33Speaker 4: I was reading that and I think if he did move,
- 29:36Speaker 4: he would be like the fuel would be there.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I mean, he'll come help us win thirty two games. Yeah,
- 29:43Speaker 1: we're fucked. We got fucking.
- 29:46Speaker 2: We traded Kevin Duran for Dragon Michelle's baby daddy.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Oh my god, we are fucking cooked.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't want Yeah, didn't want my dog, y'all
- 29:54Speaker 4: didn't want my dog.
- 29:56Speaker 2: We got this fucking owner, Matt Ishbia, this rich fuck
- 29:58Speaker 2: from fucking don't even get me. At least her hot
- 30:02Speaker 2: dogs are two dollars.
- 30:03Speaker 5: Yeah, cheap Nicks man, Yeah, right now, what.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Does that mean? You fucking.
- 30:14Speaker 5: Oh? Man, I fuck with the Knicks. Man from New York.
- 30:16Speaker 4: Man, I don't know, man, you know what it is?
- 30:20Speaker 3: Man? Like with basketball, when I was coming out, I
- 30:22Speaker 3: was a fan of players like it wasn't written necessarily, like, oh,
- 30:26Speaker 3: this team that's anywhere of all time. Yeah, Michael Jordan
- 30:32Speaker 3: right now, my favorite player is John Moran.
- 30:37Speaker 5: But Jalen Brunson is that guy. Man good.
- 30:42Speaker 1: I like Brunton. I just feel like.
- 30:44Speaker 5: He's that guy.
- 30:45Speaker 1: He has the ball a lot.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Sure, I'm saying he does it though he gets it done,
- 30:51Speaker 3: though he.
- 30:51Speaker 2: Doesn't gets to you these two little psychopathic point guards
- 30:55Speaker 2: from the Pacers that pick him up a fucking the
- 30:57Speaker 2: whole court and shut him the fuck down.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Come on that Hart. What's the other dude? The other guy?
- 31:03Speaker 1: I remember? No, no, no, no, it wasn't he was it.
- 31:08Speaker 1: The dude was hitting the threes he had.
- 31:09Speaker 5: Like oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I know you're talking about.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Not mathing.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Ma uh almost he had a game where he had
- 31:20Speaker 2: like all those threes in the fourth quarter.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but god.
- 31:23Speaker 4: Damn, but he was locking up though. I remember ninety nine.
- 31:27Speaker 4: I was like, oh, Jalen Brunson can't do nothing, ye
- 31:30Speaker 4: standing in ninety nine.
- 31:32Speaker 5: But we almost had it this year.
- 31:33Speaker 4: But it was those girls look great.
- 31:35Speaker 5: It was great to watch, man.
- 31:36Speaker 3: I just felt really good seeing the Knicks actually get
- 31:40Speaker 3: that far.
- 31:40Speaker 5: It's been a while.
- 31:41Speaker 1: If you were the knickt GM, would you trade Jalen
- 31:43Speaker 1: Brunson for Ja Morant right now? No, you would keep Brunton.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair.
- 31:50Speaker 2: I mean, I respect he's kind of like the King
- 31:51Speaker 2: of New York at this point to the pay cut.
- 31:53Speaker 1: You know, also, doesn't you know there's fair? They're Varios got.
- 32:00Speaker 5: More electrifying, Like.
- 32:03Speaker 4: He gets crazy but you know, like he's so talented.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Man, Jalen Brunson holding down New York, so I can't
- 32:08Speaker 3: even I can't trade him.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Man.
- 32:11Speaker 2: I think John Moran is like one of the biggest, Like,
- 32:13Speaker 2: if he gets it right, he can stay healthy and
- 32:16Speaker 2: stay out of the bullshit.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Jeesus. He should be the face of the league right now. Yeah,
- 32:22Speaker 1: great Sneakers. What about football? Are you a Giants your
- 32:25Speaker 1: Jets fan? Or we know he's a Chiefs fan. You
- 32:30Speaker 1: just got all the rings Chiefs, Warriors, Giants. Yeah, that's good.
- 32:36Speaker 3: I like the Jets too, But you know, when it
- 32:38Speaker 3: comes to New York teams, I don't really be like
- 32:42Speaker 3: this one or that one.
- 32:43Speaker 5: I like both of them.
- 32:44Speaker 2: You like, you like the Yankees and the At any
- 32:49Speaker 2: given time, you could see me at either game.
- 32:51Speaker 3: You might see me with a Mets hat on. You
- 32:53Speaker 3: might see me with a Yankee hat on. It's just
- 32:55Speaker 3: New York, you know what I'm saying. I love everything
- 32:57Speaker 3: about New York.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I'm not from there, so I don't know how blasphemous
- 33:00Speaker 2: of a statement that is.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Just about that.
- 33:03Speaker 1: It's crazy, but especially it's just like with me, it's just.
- 33:06Speaker 5: Like I like what I like, man, like you know,
- 33:11Speaker 5: I don't go.
- 33:11Speaker 3: Bout the these rules.
- 33:14Speaker 5: Man.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Are you a Nets fan?
- 33:16Speaker 5: Yeah? With the Nets too, Like it's New York versus everybody.
- 33:22Speaker 1: What I'm Do you like the New Jersey Devils because
- 33:24Speaker 1: they're close by?
- 33:25Speaker 5: Yeah? I do.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Great Jersey, Yeah great Yo.
- 33:29Speaker 3: That's why I like them because they got the day
- 33:32Speaker 3: of my favorite Jersey jer is crazy. But if I
- 33:35Speaker 3: was to pick, like a team.
- 33:39Speaker 5: Hockey, I probably go with the Islanders.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Are they from Queens?
- 33:44Speaker 3: They're from Long Island, but they play like in my
- 33:47Speaker 3: old neighborhood to the Islander.
- 33:50Speaker 1: I don't watch any hockey.
- 33:51Speaker 5: I just.
- 33:53Speaker 1: What's the guy on the capitals? The capital?
- 33:56Speaker 4: Is that the kid that Wayne Gretzky.
- 34:00Speaker 1: This got's to the Russians? They played the funk out
- 34:01Speaker 1: of that hockey. Anyway.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Look, new album's out Training Spotting go support it and
- 34:07Speaker 2: a lot of more new music on the way, a
- 34:09Speaker 2: lot more.
- 34:09Speaker 5: Shows on the way.
- 34:11Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys, man conductor in Rome, Yes, sir,
- 34:16Speaker 2: Boombo fire h