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Golden Tears (The Golden Bachelorette Week Four) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost Famous podcast. We are here breaking down the
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  Speaker 2: Golden Bachelorette. This is a great episode, but actually I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to start because this episode will come out probably
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  Speaker 2: the same day that Florida is affected by Hurricane Milton,
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  Speaker 2: and I just want to take a second and say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there, obviously there's nothing a human can do,
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  Speaker 2: but we're thinking of you, and we're actively working on
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  Speaker 2: ways right now to help raise funds that are going
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  Speaker 2: to be essential to the recovery and kind of clean
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  Speaker 2: up efforts, and we'll be talking about that more here
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  Speaker 2: in the upcoming days. We're thinking about all of you
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  Speaker 2: because we are recording this the day before Milton has hit,
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  Speaker 2: but this will come out on the day it has
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  Speaker 2: probably hit.
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  Speaker 3: So scary, so awful. I feel so bad for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's a really scary thing. Obviously, my parents
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  Speaker 2: are in Santabel, Florida. They're not there right now.
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  Speaker 3: They've they drive out, they fly out.
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  Speaker 2: UH they were gonna go down Monday and UH Santabel
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  Speaker 2: has had a mandatory evacuation, so they stayed kind of
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  Speaker 2: outside UH in Indiana, waiting for this to pass, and
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  Speaker 2: then they're going to go down as soon as the
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  Speaker 2: hurricane passes, but all their friends are, you know away. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: two years ago, this kind of area was struck Fort Meyer,
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  Speaker 2: Santa Bell, that area was struck by a hurricane, leaving
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  Speaker 2: just devastation everywhere. It's a really hard thing to process.
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  Speaker 2: And so this one obviously is going to go probably
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  Speaker 2: all across central Florida. Yeah, and it's going to affect
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people. And it's just a very
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  Speaker 2: kind of sobering and very scary thing as this, as
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  Speaker 2: this you know, monstrous storm sits in the ocean and
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  Speaker 2: everybody's just kind of waiting to see the whats so.
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  Speaker 4: Scary it's saying that they're saying it's like the biggest
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  Speaker 4: hurricane to hit in the US and record history.
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  Speaker 2: Could be. Yeah, it hasn't hit yet. Obviously when we're
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  Speaker 2: recording this, it hasn't hit, could be, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be devastating. So our thoughts are with you. We are
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  Speaker 2: we're not doing this to get praise or admiration, but
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  Speaker 2: we are finding ways for the almost famous listeners to
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  Speaker 2: contribute to the efforts of clean up. Obviously, I sit
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  Speaker 2: on the board of an organization called Project Hope that
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  Speaker 2: does disaster clean up, one of the top disaster clean
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  Speaker 2: up organizations in the US. They're already there, kind of
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  Speaker 2: waiting to be responsive.
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  Speaker 3: What do they do? Where do they go while they're waiting?
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  Speaker 2: Just hotels that seem to be safe, more inlay, higher up,
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  Speaker 2: and then as soon as the hurricane hits, they'll deploy
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  Speaker 2: and send all resources available to partner with other organizations.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of the cool thing about NGOs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being competitive is not exactly helpful or useful in these moments,
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  Speaker 2: and so they'll partner together to do as much as
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  Speaker 2: they can. And we'll continue to talk about it here
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  Speaker 2: at the Almost Famous podcast. But to switch gears, we
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  Speaker 2: do have a Golden Bachelorette episode to break down. This
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  Speaker 2: was a good episode. Actually, you said it before we
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  Speaker 2: even started. You said this was a good episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear why. There was everything in it.
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  Speaker 4: There was humor with that Chippendale's date, there was well,
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  Speaker 4: I think the other I think the other component that
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  Speaker 4: made it the best for me was that I think
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  Speaker 4: there's a clear, clear front runner in Chock now, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy that she might be finding her person, so
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  Speaker 4: I think there was love and lightheartedness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Chippendales comes up a lot during the
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise. It is interesting how often it comes up.
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  Speaker 2: I do think, Yeah, it is fun with the Golden Show, though,
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  Speaker 2: because it isn't that it doesn't feel as risk Ay
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  Speaker 2: is that? Am I wrong on that? Like, it just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel as poignantly awkward.
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  Speaker 4: It's way more funny unless guys trying to actually be sexy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's fun. It's funny. The show wraps it
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  Speaker 2: up with a good cause. Caitlin Bristow is there to
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  Speaker 2: guest host this this date, We're gonna actually have Kaitlyn
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  Speaker 2: on the podcast to break down what exactly she was
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  Speaker 2: experiencing while this Chippendale's deal is going on.
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  Speaker 4: This might have been the most fun day she's ever
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  Speaker 4: been a part of, So I like to know. Sure,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that is weird that we just had a
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  Speaker 4: Chip and Dale's day on Gen season and here we
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  Speaker 4: are again.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it works totally different with Golden I.
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  Speaker 4: Couldn't help but think though about the double standard, because
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  Speaker 4: they if they ever had women do this, they be.
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  Speaker 2: Gazzled it wouldn't fly. It just wouldn't work. But this
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  Speaker 2: this played, it was funny, it was good, and again
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  Speaker 2: we got to give credit to this cast. We were
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  Speaker 2: worried to be maybe I was worried. I used to
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  Speaker 2: speak for myself here and say I was worried before
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  Speaker 2: this Golden season started on how they would find a
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  Speaker 2: solid cast of men to go on to the Golden Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was very important also that they had
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  Speaker 2: a good cast from season one, so that kind of
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  Speaker 2: led into future seasons that it kind of set the
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  Speaker 2: standard to say, no, we need this is the type
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  Speaker 2: of guys we're looking for. This cast has blown it
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  Speaker 2: out of the water, meaning they've agreed, not just agreed
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  Speaker 2: to everything, but they've twisted everything to make it their
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  Speaker 2: own right. You don't if you have a Chippendale's date.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like some guys are gonna feel comfortable going
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  Speaker 2: up there and being super sexy and doing a lap dance.
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  Speaker 2: Some guys are just gonna want to shake their booty
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Some guys are just gonna walk straut down.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that is a necessity is to just
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  Speaker 2: do it however you want to do it. And these
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  Speaker 2: guys have done everything asked to them and they've made
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  Speaker 2: their own I think they are a blast of a cast,
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  Speaker 2: and it's sad every week to see any of them
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  Speaker 2: leave because I like watching them together.
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  Speaker 4: It was amazing to see how fast it got to
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  Speaker 4: be that Rose ceremony, where like you didn't know who
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  Speaker 4: was going to be eliminated because a favorite of yours,
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  Speaker 4: Anne Jones, was going to be eliminated, not just one
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  Speaker 4: but multiple, and we definitely see that at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the episode. Then I can't I can't believe how
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  Speaker 4: sweet their friendships are too. Like the men not to
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  Speaker 4: go to the end of the episode, but like the
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  Speaker 4: way that these men just love each other.
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  Speaker 3: They're finding together.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, I found love through this with my friendships,
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  Speaker 4: and like, I guess it's it's definitely in a certain
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  Speaker 4: age group where there's probably you probably have fewer male friendships.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you probably lose a lot of friendships along
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  Speaker 4: the way, and these guys are finding this really like
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  Speaker 4: necessary and special in their lives.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that we can learn from and I hope
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  Speaker 2: that they learn also that friendships are important. It was
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  Speaker 2: something you know, it was always implemented to me in
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  Speaker 2: me as a child from my parents was friendships are important.
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  Speaker 2: They're valuable because long term, like friends, you know, stick together,
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  Speaker 2: they stay, they get to know you, they see you
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  Speaker 2: through your ups and downs. One of the moments that
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  Speaker 2: every episode has had a moment where I've teared up.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't like bold yet or like really cried. Every
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  Speaker 2: moment every episode has had a moment where it's maybe
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  Speaker 2: take it like a deep breath and a step back.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna skip. I'm just gonna skip because of your
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  Speaker 2: point to the end. The guy that goes home who
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  Speaker 2: had a one on one day.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Dan, Yeah, I was like a little bit shocked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shocked by that. Right, we'll talk about kind of
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  Speaker 2: our feelings towards it. But he says these words, he goes,
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  Speaker 2: I live alone.
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  Speaker 3: I know, man, that really hit me too.
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  Speaker 2: It hit me. It hit me. And it also just
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  Speaker 2: right away said, you know, Jessica is so supportive of
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  Speaker 2: me having male friendships and you know, participating in hobbies,
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  Speaker 2: and she's hoping that. I say, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: say yes to those hobbies too often to where I'm
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  Speaker 2: always gone. But it just like showed me how appreciative
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  Speaker 2: I am for a spouse to say, hey, Ben, stay
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  Speaker 2: connected to your friends because at some point, like you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Dan sitting there going this is so much
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  Speaker 2: fun for me because I had people around and now
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  Speaker 2: I don't, and I'm going home to be alone.
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  Speaker 4: I like, can these men just like get together and
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  Speaker 4: have like a frat Can they live in a frat house?
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  Speaker 2: It's called it's called back Golden Bachelor in Paradise, which
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  Speaker 2: we're excited about, Ashley. So this Chippendale's date we both
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  Speaker 2: thought was fun, it was interesting. They owned it, they
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  Speaker 2: did it.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk more about it. I guess with Caitlin, we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna really again to it. The group date, Rose goes
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  Speaker 4: to Chock, who then has his moment where we've kind
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  Speaker 4: of been anticipating that we saw in previews where we
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  Speaker 4: wondered why Chock was going home. As soon as this
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  Speaker 4: date is over, Chock gets a phone call that says
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  Speaker 4: that his mother has passed away.
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  Speaker 3: You could you imagine.
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  Speaker 4: It was something obviously we've never seen on this show before.
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  Speaker 4: It was this is the moment that I pretty much cried,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like you.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't cried too much from this season. They are
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  Speaker 4: all very emotional storylines, but this was just like this
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  Speaker 4: poor man is finding out that his mom died while
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  Speaker 4: he's on the Bachelorette, Oh my gosh. And the night
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  Speaker 4: before at the group date, he asked Joan about how
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  Speaker 4: her mom was doing, and they were talking about how
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  Speaker 4: concerned they were about both their moms being sick. And
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  Speaker 4: then the next morning he finds this out and I
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  Speaker 4: was led to believe that he was just gone because
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  Speaker 4: they didn't have They didn't show any part of the
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  Speaker 4: conversation in which she was like, well, will you come
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  Speaker 4: back when you're done with dealing with things like how
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  Speaker 4: are you feeling about possibly coming back? And then midway
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  Speaker 4: through the episode she was like, I really hope Shock
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  Speaker 4: is coming back. I don't know what I would do
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  Speaker 4: if Shock doesn't come back. And then I and that
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  Speaker 4: door is open.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's that he comes. He's a front runner
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  Speaker 2: because he can come back, right.
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  Speaker 4: So you think that Joan basic Well Jones situation was
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  Speaker 4: a little different because her daughter was having extreme postpartum depression,
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  Speaker 4: so that's more of like a long term thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: obviously with his mom, there's the very long morning period
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  Speaker 4: that he's going to go through but he's kept bringing
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  Speaker 4: up how he was her pared for this to happen.
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  Speaker 4: He knew it was going to happen soon, which probably
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  Speaker 4: makes a difference. And his return was speedy. They kept
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  Speaker 4: talking about how it had been like a week, but
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  Speaker 4: you and I know that wasn't really a week.
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  Speaker 3: That was like two days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a week. Oh, I'm sure if we
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  Speaker 2: look back and we pulled some bachelor historian and they
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  Speaker 2: would say, yes, so and so is left, and so
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  Speaker 2: and so has left, and I've never known anybody to
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  Speaker 2: even come back necessary. I can't remember it, at least
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it hasn't happened. I just
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  Speaker 2: can't remember it. But it does make me feel like
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  Speaker 2: Chalk is a front runner because the show let him
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  Speaker 2: go and let him come back, which means that he
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  Speaker 2: interacted with the outside world, which means people knew he
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  Speaker 2: was still around, and I think it was important to
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  Speaker 2: see him come back. I think it's important for Joan.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think it puts him in kind of the
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  Speaker 2: front runner category. But we feel for Chalk here. This
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  Speaker 2: was emotion, this was real, this was heartfelt, and it's
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  Speaker 2: relatable to so many within this age group who are
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  Speaker 2: probably dealing with the same stuff. And so the people
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  Speaker 2: that are watching this and watching Joan's journey with these
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  Speaker 2: men are saying I've been there, or I'm there right now,
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  Speaker 2: or I'm close to being there. Yeah. Uh, and that's tough.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine it. And the men were very supportive.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say it was probably a good group
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  Speaker 4: of people to be with when that happened, because so
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  Speaker 4: many people in that group could relate.
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  Speaker 1: M h.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really wondering, like how the conversation went with the
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  Speaker 4: producers when he left, Like if they were like, so, chock, listen,
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  Speaker 4: we understand that you probably like, you know, like you
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  Speaker 4: gotta go. This isn't bad, this is you have to go.
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  Speaker 4: But you are somebody that Joan really wants here. So like,
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  Speaker 4: how comfortable do you feel coming back very quickly? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because they definitely didn't want him to like miss a
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  Speaker 4: week or two, do you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 4: a full week. They want him to come back at
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  Speaker 4: the Rose, the appropriate Rose ceremony, because then he I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that these guys would have actually made it
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  Speaker 4: a big deal if he skipped a week or two,
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  Speaker 4: but just to be clean about it. They had him
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  Speaker 4: come back very quickly, so it seemed fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I think it's important for everybody that
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  Speaker 2: he comes back quickly. I think it's important for him
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  Speaker 2: just because you are going to miss out a lot
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  Speaker 2: and there's relationships that every day are building. So Chalk
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  Speaker 2: at this point leaves and comes home, comes back. He
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  Speaker 2: still has the rose. That is something now that is there.
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  Speaker 2: There's a one on one date that comes up this week.
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  Speaker 2: It is kind of at an odd time. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: this is one of those moments as the lead where
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  Speaker 2: Joan is like, I just got out of a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with somebody I really care about and somebody actually feel
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  Speaker 2: like I need to spend more time with right now
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  Speaker 2: because they're hurting. And now I'm gonna go on one
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  Speaker 2: on one date and have to switch gears and have
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  Speaker 2: that joy and have that focus and have that intention.
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  Speaker 2: That is a really hard thing for her to transition
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  Speaker 2: into and at some level is where I think she
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  Speaker 2: thrives because she can compartmentalize. This is a great moment
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  Speaker 2: for the viewers to go. Joan really had to compartmentalize
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  Speaker 2: here to be the best version of herself. For this date.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easily done, but she did it.
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  Speaker 3: She did do it.
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  Speaker 4: She did a great job, and she had more of
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  Speaker 4: a connection with Jordan than I imagine she would.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan to me is like a cool guy.
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  Speaker 4: His voice, I mean, this might be a weird comment,
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  Speaker 4: but his voice sounds like a young guy. Yeah, even
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  Speaker 4: like some part of his face really looks younger than
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  Speaker 4: his age. His general vibe is youthful. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is in his voice.
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  Speaker 4: And they went ice skating. She was able to kind
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  Speaker 4: of put the chalk stuff a little bit in the
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  Speaker 4: back of her mind. She felt like this was romantic
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  Speaker 4: at Ario Speedwagon, which was cool.
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  Speaker 3: I felt more.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad I from both your man guy guy, I
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  Speaker 4: forget how can I forget guys and Jordan, both of them.
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  Speaker 4: I needed to hear their background stories to feel more
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  Speaker 4: connected to them because they were a little bit more
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  Speaker 4: delayed in us getting to that point. And I feel
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  Speaker 4: more connected to them, for sure. I feel more of
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  Speaker 4: a connection with between her and Jordan, and based on
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: the scenes from the from the season, guess what, he
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  Speaker 4: totally makes it to hometowns. Yeah, I mean, did you
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  Speaker 4: see that they're in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really watch the scenes from the next episode.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they're spoilers. I kind of like glazed
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  Speaker 2: through them.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I got Wayevo from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why you're here, and that's why I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: The state does it like blow me out of the water.
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like it's a start of something to me.
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like he's kind of the cool guy.
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  Speaker 2: She does have another one on one date with the
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  Speaker 2: person I've been super high on the whole season. Guy.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's my take from this date with Guy. The
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  Speaker 2: connection is not as good as I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be. I do not think now he is
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  Speaker 2: a front runner. Okay, but he reminds me of one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite people to ever be on the franchise.
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  Speaker 2: He reminds me of somebody who I just love being around,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Cupcake. Chris Tramber.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, another doctor, another doctor.
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  Speaker 2: But their personalities are similar.
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  Speaker 3: That is so true.
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  Speaker 4: They have like a certain gentleness about them, a gentleness.
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  Speaker 2: Do you obviously know they're insanely intelligent, but they're also
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  Speaker 2: like and I don't this is going to sound awful,
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  Speaker 2: and Chris, if you listen to this. I'm sorry. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're so smart and so intelligent, but they have these
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  Speaker 2: areas of their life where they know nothing about, which
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  Speaker 2: here we see with Guy, right, like we see this
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  Speaker 2: with Guy. He doesn't know how to cook. He can't
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  Speaker 2: even peel, you know, he can't even cook a dinner
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  Speaker 2: at any level. And but yet they're kind, they're considerate,
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  Speaker 2: they have an intentionality about them, and they care so
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  Speaker 2: much to do so well. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it all makes so much sense. And the parallel
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  Speaker 4: is unbelievable. You're so so right, but there is like
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  Speaker 4: a certain like sweetness. Gentle is really the word that
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  Speaker 4: comes to me while still being fair, Yeah, while still
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  Speaker 4: being masculine.
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  Speaker 2: And they're both super strong, like they both have huge arms.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's that's a great parallel. So guys see nice.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't still see him in the top or
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  Speaker 4: I don't see him in the top four, which means
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  Speaker 4: that he'd be like a limited next week. It's so
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: crazy how fast this goes.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this definitely this date took a step back for me.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I wanted to see how he was like with Joan.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: It felt it felt uncomfortable at times, it felt like
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the two of them weren't connecting. I just think, not
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that there's anything wrong. I just think there's guys in
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: this group that Joan feels so comfortable to be around,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to in a little bit our top
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: threes at this point. But after this one on one date,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: obviously guy is still around. He's still there.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I feel like the Golden again, like
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I mentioned last week, is a little bit different because
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: you keep people around because like you really like them
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: as people you As we see at the end of
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the episode, she's like saying that she loves these men,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: like she says to Charles when he leaves, like I
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: love you, but like it's just.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Not romantic with a lot of them.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to push the romance like
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I feel like with you, like tell me if I'm wrong,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: But like you kind of kiss girls that you probably
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have kissed in real life.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I don't really know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I know some bachelors have said this.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure because you're in this like your
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: your real life or your world is that group, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: so there's kissing that happens because you're on a date
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: with them and because you want to see if there's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: a connection there, right, Yeah. So I don't know if
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I would or wouldn't have. That was a different season
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of dating in my life. I was twenty five and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: just really excited to beat me. So I don't know.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe I would have, but I do think there's a
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: love and I get that. Like, there was a lot
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of women on my on the season that like I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: had a love for because they agreed to come and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I knew their stories. Right, Some people that come to mind,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: like the Jubilees of the world. Right, there was an
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: amazing story that like and just heartfelt intentionality she came
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to the show with. When she left, I was like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see you leave, but have I mean,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: we have to because this isn't gonna work for us romantically,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but for you to be here is a joy to me.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think Jones experiencing the same thing. The problem is,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I think she feels that with every single one of
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: these dudes, because they're all so great and they've been
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: great to her and they're great to each other. Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what, like every week you see this
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the experience itself, the environment getting smaller and smaller, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you're like, gosh, can I just start over with these dudes?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Like this has been so fun. I think they're having fun.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: They're having a blast. They are really I think they
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: are falling in love with each other as much as
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: they're falling in love with Joan. And it's very sweet
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: for us to say. If it were happening on the
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: regular show, we'd be like, Oh, these bros need to
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: concentrate on her.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: This is boring. We need some drama. These guys got
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to fight.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Every time we see the guys like just enjoying time
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: with each other on the main show, we're always like, hello, focus,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you are not here to brow out anyway. Okay, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: have to mention, since you said that guy has gone
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: down on your totem pole, guess what, Yes, guess.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Bet uh Keith has for you as well? Or guy
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: has gone up on yours.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: No, Mark is down on my totem pole. I think
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: he's going to get eliminated next week.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You're crazy.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You're crazy.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely crazy. Wait no, this isn't like in a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: typical way I call you crazy. This is like you're
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: just like, this is a bad take.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Really, you know, spoilers.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know spoilers actually, but like, goodness gracious,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: if he goes home.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: No, he's been getting less and less airtime and they have.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Crushing it, you think, so he is absolutely crushing it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: This dude and Joan are definitely together.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, Okay, I hope I don't know this right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I hope you're right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, the the Rose ceremony eliminates more guys and expected
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the rea and why is they got to be traveling
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: next week? There's no shot that they're not traveling because
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: they eliminated way more guys than they actually needed to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: for the format. But they you know, sharts are getting expensive.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think so, I think because next week we
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: get down to four. So it's just the natural cutdown
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they would only be two eliminated. Uh,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: there was three, three of our favorites. Goodness gracious, I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: going to miss these guys from Dan to Charles. Charles
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the the heart and soul of the show, along with Goldie,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: who is just a presence of kindness and joy and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: hope and uh and I'm sad to see all these
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: guys go because I think they were making. Three of
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: these guys were a part of making this show great.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Without them, this show wouldn't have wouldn't have been what
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it is. Uh. And so I'm sad to see him go,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: but I get it. It's time to move on now
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and be more focused on romance than the joy in
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the fun of the House.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Well, we do see Gil leave, So Gil the problem
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: with Gil child all this show. Yeah, yeah, Gil, the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: problem child of the season with the restraining order, goes home.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: And then let's just say with Charles, who again is
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: just the sweetest man.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: He goes home, she says, I love you. You changed
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: my life.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Of course, Oh, of course.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: And finally we have to mention Keith's awkwardness where he
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: gets through this rost ceremony by the skin of his teeth.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: He really was word salaity, word salady, nervous man during
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: this cocktail party. I was not sure he being the
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: first impression Rose Getter was going to make it further.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: There's just a lack of comfort between the two of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: them right now, which is why I think Keith will
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: go home before Mark goes home, which makes me believe
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Mark will be there longer. I like Keith. I just
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: think there is a lack of comfort. I think next
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: week my top three going into Hometowns at this point
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: would have to be Jonathan. It would also have to
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: be Mark. My third is a tough one right now.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Why there's chalk a good point. I guess chalk chalk,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Mark and Jonathan would make my top three going into hometowns. Ashley,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: do you disagree with any of that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Sort of because I actually weirdly think that Jonathan might
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: get elimited next week. I think he's so hot and
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: he's like very romantic and swooney, but I think that
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: she feels like she's missing something with him. And I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: also saying this because the scenes from the next episode
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: do not show him a lot.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, so who are your top three?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw Jordan into my top three.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Because I remember it wasn't Hometowns just top three or
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: something like that with Golden.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I think Jordan's in it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: So you think it's Jordan, Mark and Chal Jordan Chock
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess we'll say Mark. But like he's oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you know, a pascual Pascal, Pascal.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Pascal man, he's getting far now, there's.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: No shot he makes it farther than Mark. So that's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: why I think there's no way Mark goes home.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: All right, Fine, I'll put Mark in there because just
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: because that was my initial gut, but I am.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Worried for him. All right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Well, we made sure that we didn't talk too much
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: about the Chip and Dales date because we really want
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to go through it with Caitlin burst Oceans. She was
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: there firsthand and we've made this wish come true. We'll
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have a separate episode breaking that down with her, as
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: well as getting into her personal life because.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Duh, it's interesting. So until next time, I've Been Been, I've.
• 25:47
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