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What We Can Learn About Truth · Urantia Radio

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Couple of footnotes before we begin here on the Rancho Radio
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podcast where we talk about the fifth epical revelation.
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The revelation. I got a an e-mail from someone
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saying I'm not saying it right. Why we say the epical
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revelation? I like the word epical.
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I don't like the word epochal. I've asked people, hey, is it
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epical or epochal? It's just a matter of
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preference. It's like some people say
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nephilim, I say I say Nephilim, other people say Nephilim, some
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people say norlichedek, others say Norlitiadek.
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I guess it's just a matter of preference, but I always
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appreciate the e-mail and we do have a lot of good e-mail, a
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good listener e-mail that I'll go to some of these great
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questions. And you can always send me an
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e-mail if you have a question about the Urantia book.
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And if I don't have the answer, I'll find it.
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And that's easy. urantiabookradio@gmail.com.
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So thank you. We've got some interesting sound
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clips. It's also the week of Easter,
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which we celebrate the birth and the resurrection and the life of
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Christ. So we'll spend a little bit of
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time on all of this. I read, I was reading through
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the week, the last days of Jesus's life.
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And I just finished reading the Last Supper and it's, it's a
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really, it's worth going back to and reading and learning some
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lessons, some very important key lessons that have been lost in
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time. And chief among them, just
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briefly, because it is Easter week and we do celebrate the the
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promise kept. And one of the passages
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curiously, was that the formality of the Last Supper is
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pretty much time honored and celebrated across all the major
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Christian faiths. There's no question the Last
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Supper is is practiced almost to a what they call a mathematical
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precision. And it was exactly the opposite
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that the Urantia book revelators tell us of why Jesus wanted to
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have this Last Supper with his 12 apostles.
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And I had forgotten that he wanted to dispel of all
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formality when it came to religious practice.
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And I understand why he, he chose that path because he
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ultimately wanted religion to be a natural part of your life, not
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something separate or in addition to or separate from.
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But the, the whole idea of living in the spiritual Kingdom
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is that you accept your citizenship, you accept your
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sonship, and then you go about living your life in this new
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paradigm. And that's what Jesus always
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taught that religion, for example, if you're a vegan, if
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you're a vegan, it, it's a natural part of your lifestyle
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to just not eat meat. And when you're, when you're a
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person of religious faith, you go about your life living as a
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person of faith and you have a better hopefully understanding
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of things that are going on around you.
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The relationships that you have are, are based on loyalty,
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fidelity, trust. And these are things that come
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about because of the moral nature.
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The morality and spirituality are are very intertwined. 1
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tends to produce the characteristics of morality and
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morality helps you to appreciate spirituality in all of its
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forms. So in in doing the Last Supper,
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he said, Remember Me breaking the bread, Remember Me drinking
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the wine. And it was intended.
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And when I had forgotten this to Freeman from the the symbols and
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the rituals. And it's sad that the exact
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opposite happened because now we've formalized and
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crystallized the Last Supper into a ceremony when Jesus's
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intent was to have a special occasion for his apostles.
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Remember Me? So it's just a a bit of irony,
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but let me get to some of the listeners.
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Then we'll get to some of the interesting sound.
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I've got some great e-mail. This one gentleman emailed me
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last night and I hope I got it. I think it's over here.
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And he talks about how in paper 57 and you know, everybody's
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kind of focusing on the moon right now with the Artemis and
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the Orion and all the crew members.
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Very exciting times, no question.
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And so because we're all focusing on the moon, this one
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listener wrote me, he's a relatively new reader, 32 year
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old. And he says to me, you know, I,
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I'm not reconciled on an explanation about the moon and
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the earth. And, and he says we've been
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taught and science tells us that the moon actually broke off and
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was at one point a part of the earth and that it doesn't jive
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with, with the fact that it has, I think he said a rotation.
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And of course, you know, as I try to find the, the e-mail, I
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can't because I don't want to miss the essence of what he oh,
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here it is from Lucas. He writes, he writes the Urantia
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book describes the moon as forming from the earth, spinning
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so rapidly that material was ejected and eventually became
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the moon rather than forming from a collision.
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And he quotes paper 57, six paragraph two.
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He says, however, from what I understand, very few celestial
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bodies are capable of spinning at that rate, especially
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something the size of any Earth. Given that early Earth would
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have been mostly molten and unstable, it seems more likely
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that it would have been. It would have been disrupted
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entirely by centrifugal force rather than ejecting a single
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coherent mass. And then he says, do you have
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any thoughts on this? How do I reconcile this?
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Well, it's in the details. See, the Urantia book is very
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clear about some things that it can disclose because of its
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mandate. And so sometimes what you think
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that you read is not actually what you read.
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For example, there's a lot of controversy over the fact that
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there's a paragraph in that same section where it talks about how
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Mercury and the Moon both are always faced towards the same
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side toward the the either the Earth or the Sun.
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However, it doesn't actually say that.
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It's tricky and if I have time I'll explain it, but to Lucas's
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point, the Urantia book doesn't say that Earth and the moon were
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part of the same globular coherent mass that ejected from
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the sun. In fact, it only references that
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the planets came the that they were a result of the Angonas
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system that was drawing off of the material of the sun and some
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of it had is had escaped its gravitational pull.
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And those the collections of early solar mass eventually
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became what was then the 12 planets.
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And I would assume that that includes also the material that
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makes the moon, because the Urantia book says that all of
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the, the globular bodies were part of that mass that were were
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drawn off by the gravitational pull of the passing system, what
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they refer to as in gonna. But it doesn't say that the
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moon, the, the, the mass that makes up the moon was disgorged
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from Earth. And I've read through that a
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couple of times. So I would say to Lucas, I
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believe what they were intimating was that the moon was
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its own collection of mass, not quite large enough to set out on
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its own path, but that it was, it was captured by the the mass
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of the Earth because it was slightly larger.
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What it does not say is that the moon came from the Earth.
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What it does say is that the Earth came from that ejection of
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solar mass in response to the gravitational pull of the
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passing Angonas system. So it's slight, it's subtle, but
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it's specific. And so I also add to this
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question, we've all been taught in science that the moon came
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from Earth. It's true.
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It's literally true. I remember being taught this in,
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you know, elementary school. But that's not true because we
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haven't ever been able to prove it.
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You know, so the assumption is when you're reading this paper
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is that, oh, the moon must have broken off at some point from
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the Earth. I'm I'm inclined to believe that
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the mass that was ejected from the sun, a greater portion of it
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became Earth and a separate but nearby portion of mass made-up
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the moon. And that's why the Earth ended
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up becoming much larger because it was attracting more
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meteorites and asteroids through that 200,000 year period around
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4,000,000 years ago. So I hope I've answered the
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question, and if there is an astronomer out there, you can
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either concur with me or correct me, but I think I've got that
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right. OK, So what else have people
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been writing about? Guy turned me on to a new book
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by this man called Ernest Holmes, and he wrote this book
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called Science of Mind back in the 60s, but he was around in
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the 40s. Actually, I think he went back
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as far as the 20s. Ernest Holmes.
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And it's a great read. I've started to read it.
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It's very much in the way that the Arantia book describes mind
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and matter and materialism, and it's very interesting and it
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makes me think that maybe Ernest might have been part of one of
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those groups, you know, of the forum.
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I don't know if anybody would know that.
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Maybe we could look back through and see if the name Ernest
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Holmes pops up. But his book is really good and
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it's it it might be a good way to introduce this whole concept
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of the difference between the mind and the spirit.
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But he it's very good read and I would recommend it to you called
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the science of Mind by Ernest Holmes.
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So thanks to my good buddy out there, Charles, for turning on
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me to that. Neil Tolin writes he wants to
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know about Melchizedek. He's a good long time reader,
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been part of of the many, many episodes, always has something
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interesting to say and he talks about is it Melchizedek?
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He wants to know about Melchizedek.
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He wants to know when he when I think that's going to happen is
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milk. Some people say he's already
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he's he's still part of the and we're talking specifically about
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macho Venta Melchizedek and he is the sage of Salem mentioned
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in Genesis. He is the mentor of Abraham, the
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instigator of most of the modern religions today.
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Going back to the teachings of Melchizedek.
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He was an emergency son. They had petitioned at the time
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around 2000 BC that the idea of one God, the light of life, was
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disappearing from the mind of humanity and that the the 12
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receivers who basically took over the world after the Lucifer
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rebellion in Calagasia was no longer in charge.
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They had petitioned the most highs of adventures saying, you
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know, we've got a little problem here on earth.
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They're kind of regressing. Maybe it's time to inject a
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little truth into these these folks and keep them on the right
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path because we know that in at some point, the Son of God,
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Michael is going to be making his appearance.
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So we need to prepare the way that that's the essence of the
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story. What's interesting is that he is
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still part of the receivership of the 12 Melchizedeks.
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He's been at least at this point, assigned to the four and
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20 elders. And as, as some of us know, in
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that group, they serve as advisors and, and they include
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the illustrious Adam and Eve. Moses is on the committee.
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Enoch is on the committee. I mean, these are these are
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celebs, spiritual celebrities, the ones that didn't make the 24
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elders that are mentioned in Revelation.
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Interesting. I would have thought Abraham,
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but maybe they have better plans for him.
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And there's also the question of will Adam and Eve return and
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bring them their children that had left after the fall of the
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first Eden? And that I think is is equally
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likely. I've given lots of thought to
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the reappearance of Melchizedek. I think that would be time to
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occur, to again prepare the way for Christ, the return of the
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second coming of Christ, which is in a far distant future,
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maybe a few 1000 years from now, Who knows?
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But I don't think that Melchizedek will come until we
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are spiritually at that level where we would understand what
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and who he is. And the reason for that is
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because, you know, all things being equal, And it breaks my
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heart to have to say this because I've said it before, but
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when they sent us or when Michael chose this world, he
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must have had the wisdom to know how it was going to end.
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We were either going to receive him and accept him or we would
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reject him. And, and it makes me so angry
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that that we have never really, how do I say this in a way that
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isn't insensitive because I know the people that love Christ and,
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and the resurrection. It's so special.
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Easter is my favorite holiday. It always has been because of
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the fact of what it represents, which is the promise, the
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promise that there is eternal life.
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There's not a man on this earth. If they were to ask, well, what
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makes you think there's such a thing as an afterlife?
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Well, we've got evidence 1000 or so people witnessed the
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resurrected Christ and, and some of us atheists and some of these
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materialists, Oh, well, that's not true.
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They just made all that stuff. And it would have to be the
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biggest conspiracy ever to perpetuate a lie that Christ did
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not resurrect that day after a couple days after he was hung
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from a cross. The first part of that story is
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the religious rulers and even the Roman rulers of the day
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rejected the man. They rejected him.
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They rejected God. They rejected the truth that he
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was willing to share. And then when the resurrection
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does come, all of a sudden everybody's like, oh, yeah,
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well, you know, I believed in the resurrection.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I remember when none of them did.
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None of them did for weeks. The apostles were downtrodden
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and they couldn't leave and they were afraid they were going to
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get jumped and and the, the, the mobs were going to, it was a
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horrible, horrible, aside from probably the women who were
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remained the women's evangelical Corps.
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It took a little while for people to say, oh, yeah, he did
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mention he was coming back. That's right.
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He did say he was going to lay down his life and bring it up
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again. And it's a, it's a shame on this
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world that that is our legacy, the world of the cross.
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I mean, the legacy of this world, the 7th bestowal, the
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last bestowal, the, the probably the equally one of the most
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important bestowals, that of being the last in the, in the
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son of man chain as a material mortal of the realm.
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Every other bestowal they celebrated him.
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He'd, he'd do his bestowals as a Melchizedek.
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And then he did it as a Lana Nandek son.
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And he did it as a, as an ascending Angel and then a
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Maranche immortal. And every time at the end of his
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bestowals, you know, Michael would resume his, his seat at
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the, the Salvington table and he'd of course be.
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So what are you so amazed about? This is my job.
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I'm supposed to do this. I, I love you.
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I want to get to know you. I want to know what it's like to
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be as I've made you to be. And in every other bestowal,
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they welcomed him back. They celebrated him.
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Oh no, not on Urantia, though. Little different.
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Although they were probably more shocked, I would imagine.
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I mean, he wanted the the worst of the worst and he got it.
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But it's on us. We could have chosen to accept
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him. He could have hung out a little
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bit longer. He could have been on the earth
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10 years, 15 years, he could have instituted something.
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I mean, there were a lot of restrictions and the main point
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of Jesus's trip was to reveal man to God and reveal God to man
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as best he he could. But the the truth is at the end
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of the day, we rejected him. And the and the same people that
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would reject Christ 2000 years ago would be the same people who
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would reject the Melchizedek. They probably think he was the
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Antichrist. You'd have a group of Christians
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acting just the way that the Sanhedrin and the Sadducees and
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the Pharisees did in the days of Christ when he walked the earth.
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The same attitude. In fact, it's worse now because
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now people, they just laugh at it.
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Oh, what are you a man of science?
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Are you a man of reason? What is this?
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You know this fool of stuff that you and and that has not the
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attitude hasn't changed and look at the way that we run our
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governments look at the way that we run our medicine.
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Look at the way that we run everything that we run and ask
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yourself, are we truly living, You know, with the rules of
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conduct that we're and even the Arantia book says that we have
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not ever seriously given the philosophy of living as Jesus
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taught it in motion in Paper 195.
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It talks about what a great opportunity it is now that we
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have within the presence of humanity, the actual life and
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teachings of Jesus. Every single person can pick up
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the book. They don't have to have a priest
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explain it to them. They don't have to memorize all
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the passages from the Bible. And I'm not saying anything bad
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about the Bible. It's scripture, it's what it is.
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It took a long time to get here and it carries, thank God, most
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of the important truths. But now we have even an enlarged
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revelation and how do we treat it?
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You know, so that's where we're at and, and all the more reason
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for people to think about the future and where we're headed
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Now, if Melchizedek were to show, what would be the reason?
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Would it be to save ourselves from ourselves?
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Would that be the reason that a Melchizedek and his 11.
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Melchizedek receivers would appear in the sky and maybe
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above the clouds and make this miraculous moment.
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Would that be it? Would it be that the revelation
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is that a lot of these UFOs are in fact spiritual beings that
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are here to tell us, hey, guess what we're here is?
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Is that how they would reveal themselves?
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What would be the purpose of revealing Melchizedek?
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What would his reason for for to prepare the way for the second
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coming. Well, many of us already know
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about the second coming, so we have to think about where would
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man have to be in order to reap the benefit of having the
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visitation of either a Melchizedek or perhaps another
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magisterial son that we haven't thought of.
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Is that possible? Maybe there would be a, a whole
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new personality that would be introduced to, we don't know,
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it's the unknowable. But what we do know is the
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Christ said he would return, but he would come at a time when we
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would all receive him. And we're not there yet.
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Unfortunately, we still have our work cut out for us.
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OK, so we've gone into all that. Let's get into some of the sound
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bites that are out there on social media and we our response
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is based on the perspective of a Urantia book reader.
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So here we go with the first clip.
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Archangel Gabriel Gabriel, Archangel Michael.
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When they talk, look, listen to them, they say.
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I, the Archangel Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God.
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I, the Archangel Michael, who stands in the presence of God.
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And you go to Revelation chapter 4, and you see the 24 elders.
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The 24 elders is the Church of Christ of both branches, the New
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and the Old Testament. So what?
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Who are the old, the Church of Christ, the human beings, people
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made out of dust. And John the Beloved says.
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And I saw the 24 elders sitting in the presence of God, not
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standing. Why?
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Because the sun sits while Daddy stands.
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But how dare a servant sit in the presence of his master?
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Their head will be chopped and they'll be kicked out.
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But he makes some interesting points about the importance of
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the spiritual personalities. Referring to Michael of course,
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and Gabriel. Not sure if I have an opinion as
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much as I like hearing him talk about that because not those two
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personalities don't get their their credit for what they what
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what who they are and what they've done.
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Let's listen to this. If Jesus is also God, who was he
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praying to? Well, the.
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Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, 3
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persons, one God. What's interesting, Jesus at one
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point, shortly before he was killed, got up before a group
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and he said I and the Father are one.
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But the Greek word for one there is not masculine as neuter.
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Which means Jesus was not saying I and the Father are the same
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person. He was saying I and the Father
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are the same thing. We're one in nature.
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We're one in essence and that's why people picked up stones to
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kill him because they said you're just a man and you're
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claiming to be God. But then.
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You go to John 14 just a couple chapters later and he says if
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you've seen me, you've seen the father.
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And then in Revelation 1 he says I am the alpha and the Omega,
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the beginning and the end. Well, the.
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Trinity has got the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
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You know they're. Still arguing about this today,
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even online, just about that very thing.
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It's the Trinity concept is still very difficult, but
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thankfully we have books like the Urantia book, which actually
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explain the Trinity in full detail in the 1st 12 papers of
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the book. And then you walk and then you
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have an understanding of the role of the group, the deity
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group, the Trinity versus the different aspects of of deity
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that all work for each other. So you have mind, matter,
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spirit, they all work together as a cohesive force, deities,
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all of those things. I mean, to me, it's like, I get
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it. I, I get the Trinity.
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I understand the role that the infinite spirit plays as the
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conjoint actor and the lineage of the, the infinite spirit and
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her daughters of the infinite spirit, the creative's daughter
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spirits. And then you've got the sons and
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that lineage. You've got the creator sons,
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you've got the Leninandek sons, the Melchizedek sons.
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So to me it's, it's, it's clear. And then the different agencies
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that work on behalf of the paradise deities.
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So you've got the mighty messengers who who work on
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behalf of the sun. And then you've got the, the
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master physical controllers who work under the direction of, of
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the God of matter, the master architects of the universe.
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I mean, it's amazing how God has set this up and it's the
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symmetry is just absolutely unbelievable.
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And it's unfortunate that more of our brothers and sisters
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don't understand that it's within this Trinity that makes
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this God the supreme, even possible.
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All these different converging infinite forces working together
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in the evolution of the of the universe.
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It's like music. It's like a Symphony, I think.
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All right, let's let's let's take a look at this one.
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This is from Shawn Ryan. Why they're so?
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Driven to rebuild the temple. So we're the chosen people now.
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Anybody who believes in Christ, that's chosen, that's.
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Right, which is actually the big mistake that people make is
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still thinking the Jews are the chosen people.
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They were, but they rejected their inheritance.
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They refused to accept Christ because even the Jewish religion
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was ultimately a lead up to and a partial revelation in
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relationship to Christ. So once he came, This is why
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Christ was so harsh on them. The first time I read this I was
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stunned. St.
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Thomas Aquinas actually makes the observation.
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He said that the prophets and the patriarchs of the Jews
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actually they knew that God was triune and they knew he was
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going to become Incarnate. They knew this we see this in
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the book of Isaiah. It's revealed in the book of
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Isaiah and it's revealed in in various parts of Scripture that
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they then so the Jews actually knew this.
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This is why Christ was so harsh on the Jews that when he came,
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he said he guys shouldn't you guys knew this.
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You know you're calling me that that make myself evil that the
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son of God. You knew that God was going to
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become Incarnate. It's basically what's being
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taught there. So the fact that they
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apostasized and rejected ultimately God in the end, which
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is why God gives them that. As I mentioned before, he gives
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them a one generation. So after Christ dies in the year
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70 AD, the Romans destroy Jerusalem.
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And that's why now the Jews aren't.
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None of the Jews are practicing their religion because none of
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them are offering sacrifice. That doesn't mean that they're
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not living up according to certain parts of the Old
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Testament and things of that sort, but they're not actually
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performing the ceremonial laws. Interesting.
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And that's why they're so driven to rebuild the Temple.
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Now, I don't know about all that stuff about building.
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That's by the way, that were the the person was speaking with
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Father Chad Reperger and the show was the Shaun Ryan show.
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And elements of that are obviously accurate because we
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know that when Jesus came, as I mentioned in the first part of
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this podcast, that the, the authorities, the religious
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authorities rejected Christ. And we know why.
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I mean, it would be obviously was a threat to their power
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structure. So that's that's what we know
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now, unfortunately, it's tragic because historically the Jews
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have been blamed about this for decades in millennia.
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So I don't want to dig up old wounds, but we understand that,
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yes. And, and even the Urantia book
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is specific that while the Jews were not quote the chosen people
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as depicted in the Old Testament, Abraham most
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certainly was a chosen individual.
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Melchizedek single handedly pointed this out in in the
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Urantia book. It talks about how the
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Melchizedeks had been observing the genetic history of Abraham
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and his ancestors and they were expecting that at some point a
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man of great nobility and intelligence would be born into
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this family. And it turned out to be Abraham.
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And Abraham carried the he carried the truth.
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Remember, the story is that Melchizedek was here to prepare
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the way because he knew that Michael was going to be
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incarnated on this planet. I mean, that knowledge had been
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around since back in Adam and Eve's day, but the truth had
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been lost through time. And so it was up to Abraham and
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his offspring to continue this truth so that they would be
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prepared, the Jewish people, for the appearance of of the Creator
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Son, the bestowal son. And then unfortunately, we all
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know how it ended. Another another fascinating clip
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here for you. Who was the 1st to witness?
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The Resurrection. All four.
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Gospels talk about women being among the first to experience
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and see Jesus Christ after the resurrection.
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Luke's account specifically mentions a group of women at the
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tomb, including Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, the mother of
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James. Matthew goes a little deeper and
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says it was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary that first
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encountered Jesus together after leaving the tomb.
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Mark's account, though it's a little questionable, states that
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Jesus appeared first to Mary Magdalene, but it's John that
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really zooms in and focuses on Mary Magdalene as the very first
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one to encounter Jesus. She first mistakes him for the
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gardener, then realizes who Jesus is, calls him out by name,
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and is sent out by Jesus to go and declare his resurrection to
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the other apostles. It's why the Eastern Orthodox
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Church and the Roman Catholic Church both call her the Apostle
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to the Apostles, because she was the very first person to bring
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the message of the resurrection to the Apostle.
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And that is from the Awakening Media Company talking about the
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first person to see the risen Jesus after the resurrection.
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And I'm also very happy that the Arantia book goes to great
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lengths to talk about not only how Jesus treated women during
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an age when women were not treated very well and how he
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rose them up and gave them dignity.
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And then it's also important that they were so instrumental
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in the early spread of of Jesus's teachings, the women's
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evangelical core. And it's sad to report that
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history completely omitted them from Scripture, from the
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gospels. But what I can report is for
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women who want to know how Christ treated women in his age
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and certainly how Adam and Eve coexisted.
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And then if you want to get really down and dirty, read
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about what is it the they do it every year.
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What is that event? And it occurs right after the
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final resurrection, the final bestowal, the Jubilee, the
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Jubilee of Jubilees. That's what it is.
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All right, so let's see what this I started going to that
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empty Catholic Church and I would sit in the back Pew and I
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would argue with the crucifix every day I would be there and I
31:53
would tell Jesus, you're not the Son of God because there is no
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Son of God. Why are you doing this to me?
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Leave me alone. And I would just be angry.
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And I would say that to him. And then I'd tell him about my
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day. And by the time I walked out, I
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had peace and I would show up the next day.
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And I was in marketing. So I had Jesus on my schedule
32:12
every single day except on Sunday because Sundays people
32:15
went to church and I couldn't go in.
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So I wasn't happy about it. So I couldn't wait for Monday to
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go tell him he's not the Son of God.
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And so I did that every single day.
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You're not the Son of God. And months went by with this
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argument, and finally one day God had enough of me.
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And I walked into that church again, alone, empty church, sat
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down, and I started, You're not the Son of God.
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And that day in that empty Catholic Church, I heard the
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voice of God echo, and I heard it with my ears.
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And he said to me, who are you to tell me who I can be and
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cannot be? If you really want to know the
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truth, go and come back like a child and I will tell you the
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truth. I ran out of the church.
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I had no doubt God had just spoken to me.
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That voice echoed in that church and it was powerful and it was
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firm, but it was also loving and it wasn't a voice because I knew
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Allah where Allah just dictates. This was the voice of a father
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who just scolded me. But he also told me, if you want
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the truth, which means there is a truth, come back like a child.
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And he gave me a promise. I will tell you the truth.
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And so I came back. And when I walked into that
33:33
church, I knew my life was going to change.
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I knew I was going to pay a price for this truth, but I
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wanted it at all cost. It was worth it.
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I came in and I sat down and I emptied my mind of what I've
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been taught for 40 years. And I said to him, tell me
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that's all I said. And in that instant there was a
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bolt of light that came from that crucifix and it hit my
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heart and it went through my body and I started to shake and
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cry, sobbing because in front of me was Jesus.
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And all that my mouth could say was I believe.
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I believe. And in that moment I had never
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gotten on my knees. But in that moment I felt like
34:15
my knees gave way. And I collapsed on my knees
34:18
sobbing and saying, I believe. I believe.
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You are the Son of God. I believe, I believe because at
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the name of Jesus every knee shall bend and every tongue
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confess that He is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
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When truth stands in front of you, you cannot deny it.
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I was expecting a philosophy or some words that God was going to
34:38
reveal the truth about. I was not prepared to face truth
34:42
himself because truth is a person and His name is Jesus
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Christ of Nazareth. I started going and that comes
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from a woman by the name of Ali for God, glory, an admitted
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Muslim and she had that experience and she says, I know
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that this is it. I'm I'm going to be paying a
34:59
price for this one. That's a tough call.
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It takes a lot of courage. You know, I, I, I, I've told
35:06
people this, you know, people ask me, you know, why do you put
35:09
so much time and energy into the Urantia book?
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And I said because I had already believed in Christ before I even
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started reading the Urantia book.
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But once you read something or once you are looking at
35:19
something and you know that it has that ring of truth, you,
35:23
you, I mean, what are you supposed to do?
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Say no, that's not true. Even though my mind is accepted
35:28
that what I have in my possession is has what, by what
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other measure? So, and, and this woman tells a
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very courageous story. I wonder, and it's not an old
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video, so it's fairly recent. I wonder if you if you've had
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that shared experience as well? This is interesting because I
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think that every human being who is self-conscious understands
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exactly what this person is talking about, no?
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If you sit quietly for a moment and just observe what's
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happening inside your head, you'll notice something rather
36:02
extraordinary. There's this constant chatter
36:05
going on, an endless stream of commentary, of narration, of
36:10
conversation with yourself, about yourself.
36:13
It never stops. Even right now, as you're
36:16
listening to me, there's probably another voice in your
36:19
head commenting on what I'm saying, agreeing or disagreeing,
36:22
planning what to think next, wondering if you've understood
36:26
correctly, perhaps even talking about the fact that it's
36:30
talking. This internal dialogue is so
36:32
constant, so pervasive, that most people don't even notice it
36:36
anymore. It's like the hum of a
36:38
refrigerator that you only hear when someone points it out.
36:42
You know, that's from Richard Victor Richmond post that.
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And there's so much truth of that because we know, or at
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least from what the Urantia book talks about, how the mechanism
36:52
of the mind works on a conscious level, on a subconscious level,
36:56
and even on a super conscious level when our spirit fragment
37:00
is trying to influence and make us more spiritually aroused, if
37:05
you will. And so it is interesting how we
37:08
have that mechanism of the brain that is super material and it's
37:12
not bound by time and it's not bound by space, but it's there
37:16
and it's it's a if. My question is, I don't think
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many people even are aware or are conscious of what their mind
37:25
is doing. They almost are in autopilot.
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That's sort of what I take from this.
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Anyway, we've got time for one more watch.
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How Paul Rudd changes their mind to There's actually a good
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lesson in this if you guys. Could go back in time and spend
37:39
the day of anyone from history, who would you choose apart from
37:42
the Wright brothers? Obviously anyone from history
37:43
who would Who would we choose? That's a great.
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Question. I know my answer.
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Go ahead. Jesus Christ.
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By the way, laugh all you want and it seems like it would be a
37:55
wrong thing to say he existed. Yeah, we know you.
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So wouldn't you want to spend some time with him and go?
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Jesus, what's the deal? Did you think of?
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What's the deal? True.
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Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I probably, it sounds
38:09
great. It is no genuinely fantastic.
38:10
Answer but and it. Sounds like you say this and
38:12
people think like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you can't say that.
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And I'd say, well, why? No, That's who I would do.
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That's true. That's why I called this episode
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Jesus. What's the deal?
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Now you know where the title came from.
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Listen, I'll be on a mini vacation of sorts, traveling W
38:29
visiting family and friends and then we'll be back.
38:32
So if there's a little bit of a delay, I'll try to do an episode
38:35
while I'm traveling, but if I'm not able to, we will reconvene
38:41
in the month of late. May is probably when I'll be
38:45
back. So hang tight and you're in
38:47
charge until I get back. See you next time on the Rancho
38:50
Radio Podcast.