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- 0:09Speaker 1: Everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm traveling and I'm in a little different spot and
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm hoping all the production will go smoothly as we
- 0:20Speaker 1: have an incredible production person named Tony Sweet who's I've
- 0:25Speaker 1: been with for six years now, so hopefully he's going
- 0:28Speaker 1: to be able to take this away. It should with
- 0:32Speaker 1: zoom over wherever you are, So thank you, Tony, and
- 0:36Speaker 1: I want to welcome my guest today, doctor Bob Wile,
- 0:40Speaker 1: who's just one of the most incredible people. You're gonna
- 0:44Speaker 1: love hearing from him. He's he I was on his show.
- 0:48Speaker 1: He has a radio show on BBS Radio One Place
- 0:52Speaker 1: and also UK Health Radio called The Sports Doctor, and well, uh,
- 0:59Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you all about what he does. He's
- 1:02Speaker 1: a pedietress, so this is an area of the medical
- 1:06Speaker 1: field that we haven't really covered, so we're gonna hear
- 1:09Speaker 1: about that as it relates to your feet, as they
- 1:12Speaker 1: relate to your health and of course your athletic ability.
- 1:17Speaker 1: So welcome doctor Wilde.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Hey, Michelle, it's great the trade radio shows with you.
- 1:22Speaker 2: The show which is a guest of mine just a
- 1:24Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago on the sports doctor again when
- 1:27Speaker 2: you're talking anything ageless or timeless. So again I could
- 1:31Speaker 2: start right out by singing the song the footbones connected
- 1:34Speaker 2: to the ankle, bones, connected to the nebone. So many
- 1:38Speaker 2: postal problems are foot related. Whether it's someone who's a
- 1:44Speaker 2: senior and we're trying to prevent falling, it's one of
- 1:47Speaker 2: my famous figure skaters maybe doing a triple or a
- 1:50Speaker 2: quad jump and trying to land, you know, with six
- 1:54Speaker 2: seven times their way. So the world of sports for
- 1:57Speaker 2: dietary is one that incorporates all these air Where is
- 2:00Speaker 2: my specialty is youth sports, yeah, and seniors and I
- 2:05Speaker 2: you know, superstars to Grandma's Michelle.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I love that and you know, and that's great, and
- 2:11Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit about you before we
- 2:14Speaker 1: start into all your wonderful activities and focus in your
- 2:19Speaker 1: medical career and pedetary but also of course and pedietry
- 2:25Speaker 1: as it relates to sports. So just tell us a
- 2:28Speaker 1: little bit more about your journey. How did you get
- 2:31Speaker 1: forty plus forty five years as a radio host and
- 2:35Speaker 1: what is it that's made you so passionate that you've stuck.
- 2:39Speaker 2: With it For the Adventures of Live The Adventures of
- 2:43Speaker 2: Live Radio Oh wow, the guest is missing, they got
- 2:46Speaker 2: the wrong time zone, et cetera, et cetera. I was
- 2:49Speaker 2: very fortunate in the late seventies to meet the late
- 2:52Speaker 2: great sports trainer Bob Geide Yeah in glenn Ellen, Illinois
- 2:57Speaker 2: sports Fitness Institute with his wife at the time. Was
- 3:01Speaker 2: a champion weightlifter and osteopathic position and Bob was the
- 3:06Speaker 2: guy that the Jimmy Connors and the Walter Payton's and
- 3:09Speaker 2: the John mcenrose and the kill Buckner's and the superstars
- 3:13Speaker 2: and everybody in between. He was a strength and conditioning
- 3:16Speaker 2: coach of the Olympic volleyball team, and Bob had a
- 3:19Speaker 2: tremendous connection with the role of the foot. He'd say,
- 3:24Speaker 2: I want the athlete's feet to be like a cat,
- 3:28Speaker 2: where they're almost on the beach and they're working all
- 3:31Speaker 2: these areas, because whether you're coming down from a rebound
- 3:35Speaker 2: or again you're taking off for the first base, or
- 3:38Speaker 2: you're moving Hey, you're a pick a ball player, you know,
- 3:41Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you find out, wow, this
- 3:43Speaker 2: is physical. So I ended up being his pediatrist, and
- 3:47Speaker 2: over those years I had the good fortune again to
- 3:51Speaker 2: add orthotics, whether it was to McEnroe. Tracy Austin was
- 3:55Speaker 2: one of my great You know, now the Wimbledon is
- 3:58Speaker 2: going on and where we're all excited, But I just
- 4:03Speaker 2: am celebrating the fifteenth year of the young boy from Illinois,
- 4:08Speaker 2: Evan Lysachek, who was nine and a half years old
- 4:11Speaker 2: when I put orthodox in his cigy skates. It's one
- 4:14Speaker 2: of my real specialties. And maybe twelve thirteen years later
- 4:17Speaker 2: he was the Olympic gold medalist, hosting Dancing with the Celebrities, etc.
- 4:23Speaker 2: So the challenges of youth sports, Michelle, whether you are
- 4:28Speaker 2: a parent, you're a coach, and you have a talented
- 4:33Speaker 2: young son and a daughter, you know what the pressure
- 4:36Speaker 2: is like, Mom, I got to play. My knees are
- 4:38Speaker 2: killing me, et cetera, et cetera. So I got involved
- 4:42Speaker 2: on the radio side because guy who was involved vocality
- 4:45Speaker 2: with the Bears, he was seeing Gary Fan sick and
- 4:48Speaker 2: some of the Mike Ditka, he's the Mike Ditka. And
- 4:54Speaker 2: I then joined the College of do Page and the
- 4:58Speaker 2: famous w k DC blues jazz station and they had
- 5:04Speaker 2: specialty shows and I think the Sports Doctor came on
- 5:07Speaker 2: after the Lawnmower show. I'm not sure. For show I
- 5:10Speaker 2: have to look it up, but I did twenty years
- 5:13Speaker 2: there and I've probably had over one thousand guests in
- 5:17Speaker 2: every area you could think of. Again from the I
- 5:22Speaker 2: had a Taoist on two months ago talking about the
- 5:25Speaker 2: three thousand year old rules that some of them make
- 5:29Speaker 2: as much sense today as they do yesterday. I had
- 5:33Speaker 2: on a neuro scientist talking about hand eye coordination. He
- 5:38Speaker 2: worked with the elite fighters, et cetera. So that's been
- 5:42Speaker 2: the journey that I have been on, and I get
- 5:47Speaker 2: a chance again to share with my audiences all these topics,
- 5:53Speaker 2: you know, whether it's the world of youth sports, whether
- 5:55Speaker 2: it's you know, the world of the eighty year old.
- 5:58Speaker 2: You want to keep walking, you want to beat ageless,
- 6:01Speaker 2: don't you.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Well that's what we're all about. Yes, what's changed in
- 6:08Speaker 1: the forty four years forty five years?
- 6:10Speaker 2: What awareness? And I'm in a big part of it.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I'll take some crash haha. Or the awareness, whether it's
- 6:18Speaker 2: the importance of kids still having fun in youth sports,
- 6:22Speaker 2: whether it's the importance or are you in the right
- 6:25Speaker 2: shoe for your foot mechanics? Hey here, you're a dancer
- 6:29Speaker 2: in two inch heels. Let's talk about that. It was
- 6:32Speaker 2: one of my famous articles Women and High Heels. So
- 6:36Speaker 2: the awareness of what we're talking about again, whether it's
- 6:40Speaker 2: children having a good time. We're all aware of the
- 6:43Speaker 2: over zealous yelling parent on the sidelines in youth sports.
- 6:48Speaker 2: We're also aware over the years with gymnastics, the abusive medicine,
- 6:53Speaker 2: and some of these other things that have gone on.
- 6:57Speaker 2: My book hash tag Case Sports Parents. I co authored
- 7:04Speaker 2: it with a famous volleyballer, Sharky's Artman, who's had a
- 7:09Speaker 2: radio show feed Ears. So awareness of whatever we're talking
- 7:14Speaker 2: about education again, whether I'm dealing with the world of
- 7:18Speaker 2: coaching or the world of athletic training or parenting. And
- 7:24Speaker 2: you know, the new stuff in youth sports, whether it's
- 7:29Speaker 2: the paid paintingon athletes. Wow, what are they going to
- 7:32Speaker 2: do with that? And some of these other challenges. And
- 7:36Speaker 2: the reason I co authored the book, Michelle, is the epidemic.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Write that down everybody in capitals, the epidemic of youth
- 7:46Speaker 2: sports overuse injuries too much, so I call it the
- 7:52Speaker 2: Terrible twos. And again, if you're a young talented ten
- 7:55Speaker 2: twelve year old tennis player, figure skater, ballet, he's doing
- 7:58Speaker 2: it in ten days a week and we start running
- 8:02Speaker 2: into all sorts of problems. And Guida again was famous
- 8:06Speaker 2: for training and working with these young athletes, whatever their
- 8:10Speaker 2: sport was. And you know the two things you paid
- 8:13Speaker 2: the attention to do. You write this also down the
- 8:17Speaker 2: two exercises you want to include, whatever your level, age
- 8:23Speaker 2: or sport. Number one to strengthen your feet Anklesclude strengthening
- 8:31Speaker 2: your feet ankles the number one injury in sports, period
- 8:35Speaker 2: of your ankles forever and the abuse. So you want
- 8:39Speaker 2: to strengthen your feet and angles. And the number two
- 8:42Speaker 2: work balance, whether you're eighty years old and you're working
- 8:46Speaker 2: with standing on one foot at a time, or you
- 8:49Speaker 2: were in guide his clinic balancing on the mini trium
- 8:53Speaker 2: with whatever sport you were working with. And these areas
- 8:58Speaker 2: of awareness and education. We've had a lot of good news,
- 9:04Speaker 2: but I got news for you. If we're talking, for example, diabetes, obesity,
- 9:11Speaker 2: childhood obesity, all which I've featured for decades. We're treading water.
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- 9:29Speaker 2: I'm excited. Let's not get over zealous here.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
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- 10:22Speaker 2: Jessica is one of the champions. She's also a champion weightlifter,
- 10:26Speaker 2: Jessica Biel, and she's We've talked about these challenges, whether
- 10:30Speaker 2: we're talking about CBD. I have champion in marijuana and
- 10:36Speaker 2: in sports for decades, far as whether it was a
- 10:39Speaker 2: pain reducer or it helped you sleep better, etcetera, etcetera.
- 10:43Speaker 2: So now the world of reginitive medicine, world of again
- 10:48Speaker 2: are my friend. For one hundred years. Bob Goldman, the
- 10:52Speaker 2: superstar and anti aging I did pedietry with his National
- 10:57Speaker 2: Academy of Sports Medison maybe forty years ago when he
- 11:00Speaker 2: was first starting, and he goes, you know, Bob gets
- 11:03Speaker 2: thousands of people together with the anti aging world for
- 11:07Speaker 2: decades and a big part of it, like you said
- 11:10Speaker 2: at Ageless Timeless, is this whole you know, peptide related,
- 11:15Speaker 2: biohacking related. I included in the mental game. I pay
- 11:21Speaker 2: huge attention on the sports doctor to the mental game.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Whether I have psychiatrists on his guests and have contributed
- 11:31Speaker 2: to my book. Is the great holistic sport psychiatrist adult
- 11:38Speaker 2: and child psychiatrist adopted Denitis McDermott, and she of course
- 11:44Speaker 2: uses his drugs when indicated, but she's huge in the
- 11:46Speaker 2: whole mental side, in the whole area. So regenitive medicine
- 11:52Speaker 2: we're excited about. I know that feel that you evolved
- 11:56Speaker 2: very involved with you know, the Best Doctor magazine and
- 12:01Speaker 2: your column. And you know, our friend Rob Fletcher, the
- 12:04Speaker 2: Hall of Fame martial artist and a few years on
- 12:08Speaker 2: my show, he'd paid big attention to that. We got
- 12:10Speaker 2: to get these girls and women learning how to protect themselves.
- 12:14Speaker 2: And I was a big fan of it, and now
- 12:17Speaker 2: he's doing a lot of great things. So we're both
- 12:20Speaker 2: on the same team in a lot of ways.
- 12:23Speaker 1: You're an educator, Well, you want to make a difference
- 12:27Speaker 1: in the world that I was seeking the answers, and
- 12:30Speaker 1: many people yeah, good luck to buying their solutions to
- 12:33Speaker 1: their issues, particularly not with the t allopathic model, which
- 12:38Speaker 1: is really looking to cure symptoms and not the root cause. Well,
- 12:43Speaker 1: i'll tell you slacking the I talk about.
- 12:46Speaker 2: It's a big deal again. You could write it down.
- 12:49Speaker 2: It's called the new medicine. It's very simple. The new
- 12:52Speaker 2: medicine is Number one, eats smarter. I'll leave it up
- 12:56Speaker 2: to you in the category. We could talk for twenty hours, right,
- 13:00Speaker 2: don't needing smarter? Number two is keep moving. Whether you
- 13:04Speaker 2: want to go to the gym, whether you like yoga,
- 13:06Speaker 2: whether you want to include tai chi, whether you want
- 13:08Speaker 2: to do whatever we want to include. Keep moving. Number
- 13:12Speaker 2: three is a big one. We're talking about it. Reduce stress,
- 13:16Speaker 2: learn how to include rest and recovery, whether you want
- 13:20Speaker 2: to be a meditator, whether you want to talk mental training.
- 13:24Speaker 2: You know the late great sports psychologist, psychologist, doctor Jim
- 13:29Speaker 2: Vic grey back in the eighties, Michelle, he couldn't use
- 13:31Speaker 2: the words of psychology and he worked with the teams
- 13:35Speaker 2: he worked with the colleges Northwest, and the word psychologie,
- 13:38Speaker 2: what do you mean you think there's something wrong with me?
- 13:41Speaker 2: So that's the new medicine, and it includes a lot
- 13:45Speaker 2: of attention to where your world is, which is new
- 13:49Speaker 2: to many. It's new to medicine in a lot of ways.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yet it's been around semi forever, right.
- 13:56Speaker 5: Well, if you look at ioveda and you know the
- 14:00Speaker 5: fire you made it, right, Yeah, And some of those
- 14:03Speaker 5: Asian or Eastern medicine they've been doing it for thousands
- 14:07Speaker 5: of year, and you know acupuncture.
- 14:10Speaker 1: But you know, somehow or rather when it gets to
- 14:12Speaker 1: become mainstream in America, they we think it is brand new.
- 14:16Speaker 1: He's something we're discovered for.
- 14:18Speaker 2: These do therapy. Bob Guida, he called it vibrational medicine
- 14:23Speaker 2: that he was doing. Yes, he was doing the same
- 14:25Speaker 2: kind of deep dege massage as my international guest friend colleague,
- 14:31Speaker 2: also a teammate of mine in the National Fitness Halo
- 14:33Speaker 2: fame doctor James Stockson, internationally known sports. This is very
- 14:39Speaker 2: close friend.
- 14:40Speaker 1: He's a very close friend of mine in Chicago.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the sports doctor.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Team doctors, Team doctors.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I get it right. He was on my show two
- 14:50Speaker 2: weeks ago, three weeks ago, he was on one hundred
- 14:52Speaker 2: years ago.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a friend.
- 14:55Speaker 2: This is interesting, Michelle. The titles of what was then
- 14:59Speaker 2: from many years called alternative medicine, I've had all of
- 15:03Speaker 2: them on my show. I had many of them contribute
- 15:05Speaker 2: to the book. Again, Eastern medicine, which was ti whether
- 15:10Speaker 2: it was tai Chi, Chinese medicine. We featured compared to
- 15:15Speaker 2: what we've been stuck with in a lot of ways,
- 15:18Speaker 2: which is again, it's an injection, it's a pill with surgery,
- 15:21Speaker 2: it's treating the symptoms, it's it works twelve hours. But
- 15:26Speaker 2: when we had that title alternative medicine, it was adversarial.
- 15:31Speaker 2: So I spent ten years on the show, given to
- 15:33Speaker 2: take a few weeks talking with all sorts of people,
- 15:36Speaker 2: and we said, let's call it complimentary medicine. That's good. Yes,
- 15:42Speaker 2: And now we're all on the same team. And I think, again,
- 15:47Speaker 2: these areas that you're very involved with, you know, again,
- 15:50Speaker 2: whether it's the highest level of sports performance, and you know,
- 15:54Speaker 2: my guest on the radio show yesterday doctr Vasquez. Whether
- 15:58Speaker 2: he's working with the top elite fighters in the world
- 16:02Speaker 2: or he's talking to business people, he's you know, he's
- 16:05Speaker 2: all about these leadership skills. That side of it also,
- 16:10Speaker 2: and you know, we try to pay a lot of
- 16:12Speaker 2: attention to communication for sports parents and again, the more
- 16:18Speaker 2: talented your son or daughter is. I just had a
- 16:21Speaker 2: feature article in the magazine that the supporter of MINE
- 16:25Speaker 2: l e R. Lower Extremity Review just celebrated the sixteenth
- 16:30Speaker 2: year and their great publisher, Rich Dubin a numerous numerous
- 16:35Speaker 2: guests of MINE. I've written numerous articles to him. One
- 16:38Speaker 2: was pickleball is Physical back in two twenty, where no
- 16:43Speaker 2: one knew how to spell pickleball. But the recent one
- 16:46Speaker 2: was the Prodigy Sports, and it was all about specialization
- 16:52Speaker 2: with these kids. When every doctor and parent and athletic
- 16:59Speaker 2: trainer wants and girls to play numerous sports, want them
- 17:02Speaker 2: to use different parts of the body, have different experiences,
- 17:06Speaker 2: and that's what we want them to do. And that's great.
- 17:09Speaker 2: What's your gymnast, right, or a ballerina or a figure skater,
- 17:13Speaker 2: and now even soccer and tennis, and my colleague down
- 17:18Speaker 2: there and the Panhandle baseball where the team doctor the Yankees.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Doctor Chris Amad has been a guest of my numerous times,
- 17:26Speaker 2: and he said, guess what, doctor Bob of Tommy John
- 17:31Speaker 2: surgery's on teenagers? Whoa where is all this overuse? It'my yes,
- 17:38Speaker 2: elbow surgery on young pitchers and baseball players. Like I
- 17:43Speaker 2: could say to you knee problems with all the young
- 17:46Speaker 2: volleyballers or uh the idea that you know, knee problems
- 17:52Speaker 2: and females are about five to one. So we want
- 17:57Speaker 2: to pay big attention to the fact that, yes, people
- 18:02Speaker 2: want to be as ageless and as timeless as they can.
- 18:05Speaker 2: I'm a big fan, but you got to be smart
- 18:09Speaker 2: and you got to pay attention to what your physical
- 18:12Speaker 2: or mental history is. You want to pay attention to
- 18:17Speaker 2: the fact that you're not playing a court sports with
- 18:19Speaker 2: running shoes on, for example, and that you are even
- 18:23Speaker 2: shit properly. Would it surprise you that over forty percent
- 18:27Speaker 2: of our population or not fit properly with is shoes? Yeah?
- 18:32Speaker 1: I know, and so okay, So as long as you
- 18:35Speaker 1: brought that up, dive a little deeper into pedetary and
- 18:40Speaker 1: how did you decide to be a doctor of pedetary refers,
- 18:44Speaker 1: what was it motivated you and made you so passionate.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Yes, I wanted to stay away from Vietnam as much
- 18:51Speaker 2: as I could. And medical school, Yes, medical school was
- 18:55Speaker 2: one of the areas that I was always interested in,
- 18:58Speaker 2: and Navy dentistry and pedietry came on my radar as
- 19:02Speaker 2: something that was so broad based. Again, it could be
- 19:06Speaker 2: the best athletes in the world, or it could be
- 19:08Speaker 2: senior citizens, it could be children, it could be diabetics.
- 19:13Speaker 2: You know, the first profession to see diabetes many times
- 19:17Speaker 2: is the foot doctor because that's where the symptoms start.
- 19:21Speaker 2: So it was something that I found very, very interesting.
- 19:24Speaker 2: And again I was very fortunate. After I got out
- 19:28Speaker 2: and I started paying any attention, I ran into guide
- 19:32Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I got involved at the
- 19:34Speaker 2: most exciting levels of these athletes and what they were facing.
- 19:40Speaker 2: And the idea, which is because I'll tell you something
- 19:43Speaker 2: which is interesting your listeners, many people will say, does
- 19:48Speaker 2: my son or daughter or do I need orthotics? And
- 19:53Speaker 2: for everybody listening to orthodics, our prescription inserts to properly
- 19:58Speaker 2: align optimally the foot and ankle, because the foot and
- 20:02Speaker 2: ankle affect everything. Because you've had chronic back problems. It
- 20:05Speaker 2: might not be caused by your flat feet, but it
- 20:08Speaker 2: ain't helping you in any in any instances. So the
- 20:14Speaker 2: ID and then foot inserts now are a big deal.
- 20:16Speaker 2: If they're all over the internet. You can go to Walgreens.
- 20:19Speaker 2: There's a thousand inserts. They are not prescription devices.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Don't you don't recommend them?
- 20:26Speaker 2: Oh no, that's why I use one hundred percent. I
- 20:28Speaker 2: use them as something you could use for a week
- 20:31Speaker 2: or two until we get you into what's optimum. And
- 20:34Speaker 2: again even if we're not till you're not. They don't
- 20:36Speaker 2: have to be a superstar. You might be someone hey doctor,
- 20:39Speaker 2: well I run five days a week and my I
- 20:42Speaker 2: have shin splints. Or you know my big problem plant
- 20:46Speaker 2: a fastch it. It's the arch to the heel, common
- 20:49Speaker 2: common problem. So if you have, for example, inherited flat
- 20:56Speaker 2: feet mm hm, or you've inherited the opposite, this is
- 21:01Speaker 2: much less common. High origies. The high arches might be
- 21:05Speaker 2: connected to John McEnroe, and that's why he's quicker than
- 21:09Speaker 2: everybody mechanically. So the idea again of paying attention to
- 21:15Speaker 2: what's been your history. You know, whether you were a
- 21:18Speaker 2: high school athlete, whether you're looking to get back into activity.
- 21:22Speaker 2: So pedietry was a great fit. And then I started
- 21:26Speaker 2: to learn not only about the surgical side, whether it
- 21:29Speaker 2: was the hammer toes and these other bunyans. You know,
- 21:32Speaker 2: women ask all the time, you know, surgically, I have
- 21:35Speaker 2: seen seventy five year old grandma. You know the enlarged
- 21:40Speaker 2: thick bump on the side of the big toe. The
- 21:44Speaker 2: big toe is the lever of your feet. I'm sure
- 21:49Speaker 2: I'll bet you fifty more of your listeners have heard
- 21:52Speaker 2: the terms pronation and supernation. Of course, they are normal
- 21:56Speaker 2: motions of the fetnankles, right, and they have a few
- 22:00Speaker 2: courtant jobs. One of them is shock absorption. Every time
- 22:02Speaker 2: you land on your heel, you generating fifty percent of
- 22:05Speaker 2: you eight right once you bear weight, that stops. Now
- 22:10Speaker 2: you're pushing off. So there was all of his excitement.
- 22:14Speaker 2: And then in the late seventies I met Candy Brown
- 22:17Speaker 2: and she was very involved in it. She was a
- 22:19Speaker 2: figure skating coach, she was a former champion, and she said,
- 22:22Speaker 2: you know this young boy in your neighborhood, Glen Ellen,
- 22:25Speaker 2: This kid's flying all over the ice doing double and
- 22:27Speaker 2: triple bump jumps. He ended up being an Olympian, the
- 22:30Speaker 2: late great Angelo do Augostino and Candy was paying very
- 22:34Speaker 2: very big attention to you know, these young kids, are
- 22:38Speaker 2: we getting them strong enough? And the answer was no way,
- 22:43Speaker 2: they were doing the activity. You know, I have ten
- 22:46Speaker 2: year olds. They do double jumps all day, five six
- 22:49Speaker 2: days a week. So the concept of the importance of
- 22:53Speaker 2: the feet and how they affect all these areas was very,
- 22:57Speaker 2: very exciting. Pedietry was getting included over the years in
- 23:01Speaker 2: the Olympics. It was getting you know, part of the team.
- 23:05Speaker 2: The orthopedic surgeon, the chiropractic is tissue therapist, and again
- 23:09Speaker 2: Bob Guider was very famous for vibrational therapy. Think of
- 23:12Speaker 2: a massage, think of a deep massage gun, think of
- 23:17Speaker 2: it being very therapeutic for whatever the injury happens to be.
- 23:21Speaker 2: And Stocks and also manufacture is his own doctor, teen
- 23:27Speaker 2: doctors again deep you know stocks and flies all over
- 23:32Speaker 2: the world to see afflets. He worked with the Wiggles
- 23:35Speaker 2: to be talked about that he got the guy.
- 23:37Speaker 1: From here the whole shore.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Remember the Wiggles, right everybody? My kids loved them.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Yeah, well I got he actually got me tickets from
- 23:46Speaker 1: my nephews. For there was Wiggles were going to be
- 23:49Speaker 1: in Atlanta and I had some family members there, so
- 23:53Speaker 1: he was able to get them to get backstage and
- 23:55Speaker 1: meet them, and it was it was pretty exciting for
- 23:58Speaker 1: the I never I think I became the favorite aunt
- 24:02Speaker 1: at that moment in time because of my ability to
- 24:05Speaker 1: get them into that concert. But yeah, the Thumper is
- 24:10Speaker 1: one of his he originally developed and then he's got
- 24:15Speaker 1: you know, more advanced models. Now, yes, the besides but
- 24:19Speaker 1: but you know today PEMF post electron electric magnetic therapy
- 24:26Speaker 1: that's become the darling of the sports world for or
- 24:29Speaker 1: even just for weaken more.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I was into magnets in the nineties. We were even
- 24:34Speaker 2: using stationary magnets. I still find if someone says, I
- 24:37Speaker 2: have a therapeutic magnet patch, will it help stimulate healing?
- 24:42Speaker 2: The answer is almost always it's not magic. But we've
- 24:46Speaker 2: had great success. We use magnetic insults for years. I
- 24:49Speaker 2: put them on top of orthotics. You know, in America
- 24:53Speaker 2: with the hype and the whole thing with the you know,
- 24:55Speaker 2: it was just a little much in a lot of ways.
- 24:57Speaker 2: But you know, one of my famous guests, uh Gary Reinold,
- 25:02Speaker 2: who wrote the famous book.
- 25:03Speaker 1: I see he's going to be on my podcast.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Answered tell him, tell him how he's been.
- 25:07Speaker 1: I'm not sure Dunn power is connecting us right now, Rober.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he was in the in the crosshairs of
- 25:17Speaker 2: the whole sports world because he was saying ice it's fake. Yeah,
- 25:23Speaker 2: all for numbing.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:24Speaker 2: Geida was when Guida said stretching could be hamful, We're
- 25:30Speaker 2: overdoing it, and both of them. I used to laugh
- 25:33Speaker 2: at both of them that people were out to uh
- 25:36Speaker 2: to get you, man, because you're going against religion. But
- 25:39Speaker 2: he also worked with every professional team, and he worked
- 25:43Speaker 2: with every Olympic team Gary Reinold, and he was always
- 25:47Speaker 2: involved with stimulating the areas surrounding the injured joint. So
- 25:52Speaker 2: if your ankle was injured, he have you working your toes,
- 25:55Speaker 2: bending your knees. And he represented one of the countries
- 25:59Speaker 2: leading electromagnetic therapeutic to pieces for as long as I
- 26:04Speaker 2: know them, and it isn't a big deal. And I
- 26:07Speaker 2: still find ultrasound, high speed ultrasound, it's been around forever
- 26:14Speaker 2: one of the most successful ways to calm down inflammation
- 26:19Speaker 2: and injury. And we've we've played with them all. One
- 26:23Speaker 2: of my pediatary colleagues, doctor Ben Purrow in Virginia very
- 26:28Speaker 2: big into again you know, shock therapy also very therapeutic
- 26:34Speaker 2: when you're dealing with dancers or show members or athletes
- 26:38Speaker 2: who are saying, you know, Michelle, I got to get
- 26:40Speaker 2: better yesterday. What can you do for me? You know,
- 26:44Speaker 2: good luck to you. But all of these things hands on.
- 26:48Speaker 2: This is why I had you know, sports Fitness Institute
- 26:51Speaker 2: was owned by a chiropractor who hired guide and.
- 26:56Speaker 6: Chiropractic was always ahead of whether it was exercise or
- 27:03Speaker 6: diet and non drugs well.
- 27:06Speaker 2: And if I've had one chiropractor on my show over
- 27:10Speaker 2: whatever the heck it is, I've had fifty.
- 27:14Speaker 1: I don't compare the chiropractic to the osteopath, which I've always.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Rarey Christian, great question. The osteopath is an MD with
- 27:23Speaker 2: chiropractic skills. So doctors that I have on from the
- 27:28Speaker 2: Olympic work Tony Liazzo, he's been a he's a local doc.
- 27:31Speaker 2: He's been one hundred times. Uh. The one of the
- 27:33Speaker 2: orthopedics from Jersey, doctor Sean McMillan. The do os A
- 27:39Speaker 2: do O is every much an MD in their specialty,
- 27:44Speaker 2: whether it's orthopedics, whether it's ophthalmology, whether it's foot, ankle,
- 27:47Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. The difference is and that's why
- 27:50Speaker 2: we had one on the bears since the beginning. The
- 27:54Speaker 2: hand is on now when it comes to adjustment and manipulation.
- 27:59Speaker 2: And if you want us with hairs between the DOO
- 28:01Speaker 2: and the orthopedy and the chiropractor. But here's what's funny,
- 28:05Speaker 2: and I tell my friends who are team doctors orthopedis
- 28:08Speaker 2: both the chiropractor highly skilled and the DOO highly skilled,
- 28:12Speaker 2: are better analysts in so many ways than the orthopedist.
- 28:17Speaker 2: The orthopedist is a surgeon. He ain't somebody who's picking
- 28:21Speaker 2: up that the guy's guide an eighth and shortage and
- 28:25Speaker 2: again leg shortage and all of these things. So this
- 28:28Speaker 2: is why the chiropractor who would sing the song and
- 28:31Speaker 2: the do hip bones connected to the backbones, to the
- 28:36Speaker 2: knee bone, and I'm in the background singing the foot
- 28:39Speaker 2: bones connected to the ankle bone, and then we kneed
- 28:42Speaker 2: in the middle. So people need to understand is nothing
- 28:46Speaker 2: negative medically about the do O in their specialty. They
- 28:52Speaker 2: are the same as the MD. And that's always been
- 28:55Speaker 2: a hassle in one way, or another, and still to
- 28:59Speaker 2: this day you have that question. I'm glad you brought
- 29:01Speaker 2: it up.
- 29:02Speaker 1: So all the athletes that you've interviewed and are you've
- 29:07Speaker 1: known over the years, who would you if you were
- 29:10Speaker 1: doing the Academy Award or an Olympic level of the
- 29:16Speaker 1: best of the who is Who's that?
- 29:20Speaker 2: Jani Noah was the great Frenchman who won the French
- 29:24Speaker 2: Open and became so myth famous that he had a
- 29:27Speaker 2: move to New York the eighties. And because he was
- 29:31Speaker 2: the French champion in tennis in Roland Garros and he
- 29:35Speaker 2: became a superstar, then he became a superstar in music.
- 29:38Speaker 2: His son Jaquin became a great player for the Chicago Bulls.
- 29:42Speaker 2: But of all the athletes we saw, as well as
- 29:46Speaker 2: some of the volleyballers and the international players, all are
- 29:51Speaker 2: a Gary Fencik, a defensive back with the Chicago Bears,
- 29:56Speaker 2: was another one, as again was McEnroe, who was quicker
- 30:02Speaker 2: on his feet than so many others. But Yannick was
- 30:07Speaker 2: also maybe even more limber athletic. And when we think
- 30:12Speaker 2: back again, you know, if you'd think you think McEnroe
- 30:15Speaker 2: is an example, McEnroe unzipped his racket was the best
- 30:18Speaker 2: in the world. He said, I out got it trained.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Tracy Austin had pretty bracelets. Both of them borrowed my
- 30:26Speaker 2: car when they were here to train a guy at
- 30:29Speaker 2: one time or another. My kids loved both of them.
- 30:32Speaker 2: They weren't best friends, but they spent a lot. Tracy
- 30:34Speaker 2: Austin spent the whole summer trying to come back and
- 30:38Speaker 2: win the US Open in the nineteen eighties. But she
- 30:41Speaker 2: wasn't an athlete when Martina. Either was Chris Everett. They
- 30:47Speaker 2: all learned, and Guida was one of the ones who
- 30:50Speaker 2: said to these tennis players, you don't understand. You gotta
- 30:53Speaker 2: be one of the best athletes, not just tennis players.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Now if you're a tennis and everybody I'm a big.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Man and a former, or I'm not a former, she'll play.
- 31:06Speaker 1: But tennis is one of my favorite sports.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Big time. You got to you gotta tell Okay two
- 31:10Speaker 2: weeks ago, you know about the unbelievable final, and they've
- 31:16Speaker 2: played tomorrow in the semifinals. Djokovic of course is playing center.
- 31:20Speaker 2: But al Kraz and Sinner five hours, twenty nine minutes. Now,
- 31:26Speaker 2: I have a contest on the Sports Doctor once to
- 31:28Speaker 2: twice a year have done fears. It's a fun contest.
- 31:31Speaker 2: And it's exactly what she.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Ask, Well, did you hear about the Women's Wimbledon that
- 31:35Speaker 1: the American upstair?
- 31:37Speaker 2: I watched it, Yes, you have to do.
- 31:40Speaker 1: What did you think of her as well?
- 31:43Speaker 2: On is a headcase? The number one player in the world, Sarahtoma. Yes,
- 31:48Speaker 2: he's great a player as she is. She's handled it.
- 31:51Speaker 2: She didn't lose it mentally, but she had a chance.
- 31:55Speaker 2: And she again somehow this young American who's been in
- 32:00Speaker 2: this crazy experience, she stepped away from the game for
- 32:03Speaker 2: a while. You know, people said, where are the Americans now?
- 32:06Speaker 2: They're all over the place. So this kid and I
- 32:09Speaker 2: watched her interview at the mental game, and you know,
- 32:13Speaker 2: and talking about that moment again the word mindfulness, which
- 32:17Speaker 2: in sports medicine is such a big deal. Medicine didn't
- 32:20Speaker 2: know how to spell mindfulness twenty years ago. You know
- 32:22Speaker 2: what it means.
- 32:23Speaker 1: That's a very interesting shape.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Me in the moment. Yeah, and you is the that
- 32:28Speaker 2: use you're on the foul line show. Oh you're serving
- 32:32Speaker 2: for the match. You've never been there before, and you
- 32:35Speaker 2: can't see straight. You're you're so nervous, so this young
- 32:38Speaker 2: American beating the number one player in the world again,
- 32:43Speaker 2: who has got some challenges, keeping her temper under control
- 32:48Speaker 2: and all of these things. And if you're a player,
- 32:51Speaker 2: you understand. The great Lou Vickery who pitched for the
- 32:54Speaker 2: Yankees and Cardinals in the in the sixties. And I'm
- 32:59Speaker 2: bringing them up because he's a eighties champion tennis doubles champion,
- 33:05Speaker 2: and he had a podcast, which is What's Your Racket?
- 33:08Speaker 2: And I would show up the sports doctors in But
- 33:11Speaker 2: Lou had a show on the pan Handle for years
- 33:14Speaker 2: called Lou in the Morning. He's a very successful businessman.
- 33:17Speaker 2: He's written twenty five books. But his big point that
- 33:21Speaker 2: I would be on we were talking overus with these kids,
- 33:24Speaker 2: with these baseball players playing, you know, ten days a week,
- 33:27Speaker 2: but in the world of tennis, he was paying such
- 33:30Speaker 2: attention again to whether it was sportsmanship on the left.
- 33:35Speaker 2: You know, John McEnroe, why do you okay? You know
- 33:38Speaker 2: all that screaming and ranting and raving. When I first
- 33:41Speaker 2: met John McEnroe, he was on the phone with his
- 33:44Speaker 2: father wearing a torn top coat. He was like twenty
- 33:49Speaker 2: years old. He came in to see guy. There we
- 33:51Speaker 2: were seeing him. He's arguing with his father on the
- 33:54Speaker 2: phone about who knows what the heck it was. But
- 33:58Speaker 2: you know, the mental game and the the idea that
- 34:02Speaker 2: you know, senior tennis is a big deal. So you
- 34:05Speaker 2: might want lou Vickery on as a guest sometime because
- 34:08Speaker 2: he's an eighties champion and what does it take to
- 34:12Speaker 2: still be playing when you're eighty years old? We talk
- 34:14Speaker 2: about his top spin backhand.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Well, we have you mentioned when we spoke earlier about
- 34:21Speaker 1: Rod Labor and all of them, Yes, well in that
- 34:25Speaker 1: whole generation, right of Jimmy Connor was a little later,
- 34:29Speaker 1: but they still they all still play, right.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Oh yeah. None of them lifted weights and nobody paid.
- 34:36Speaker 2: They didn't pay big attention to nutrition as much, and
- 34:40Speaker 2: they were eighty five pounds. Now you're looking at these
- 34:45Speaker 2: guys routine with this kid's six eight, this other kid,
- 34:48Speaker 2: and it's just so the evolution, including the female athlete,
- 34:52Speaker 2: you would Tracy Austin said, you know, I never lifted
- 34:57Speaker 2: weights to train. That that's a guy that got her
- 34:59Speaker 2: head into which is you better be an athlete if
- 35:03Speaker 2: you want to compete with Martina. And Chris Evertt learned
- 35:07Speaker 2: the same thing and of course today it's it's a
- 35:11Speaker 2: whole new world and it includes that is that player
- 35:15Speaker 2: in the best you know, how much have they been
- 35:19Speaker 2: evaluated for the ankle? How much are they strengthening and training?
- 35:24Speaker 2: It's an exciting world.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Why do you think the authors have gotten so much tolerance?
- 35:29Speaker 1: What's what's contributed to that?
- 35:31Speaker 2: Maybe they're taking your peptides. I think overall, whatever the
- 35:35Speaker 2: evolution is, there's a tremendous evolution in the training of
- 35:41Speaker 2: these kids. How much that invigorates growth. It's a great question,
- 35:47Speaker 2: but with a lot of attention. That's why I have
- 35:49Speaker 2: sports nutritionists contributed to my book, and as people I
- 35:53Speaker 2: talk to all the time. Are d k another great
- 35:56Speaker 2: guests field Katie Davis a sports nutritionist, or what's a pharmacist?
- 36:01Speaker 2: That whole world about women and their menstrual cycles and
- 36:06Speaker 2: nutrition and hormones and all of these things that became
- 36:09Speaker 2: such a big deal. So all these things were added
- 36:13Speaker 2: to the mix. Now, if we had a time machine,
- 36:18Speaker 2: we could go back twenty years, and let's go back
- 36:21Speaker 2: and let's say that none of these things were added.
- 36:23Speaker 2: No one ever became a better athlete, no one paid
- 36:26Speaker 2: big attention. You know, they still had a stake. Nobody
- 36:30Speaker 2: paid attention to rest and recovery, proper sleep huge yesterday,
- 36:36Speaker 2: that's all they talked about with neuroscience. Would they be
- 36:40Speaker 2: the same size? Great question. I think the world of
- 36:44Speaker 2: calories and nutrition has made a huge different. I mean,
- 36:47Speaker 2: you see a six for eight shortstop, what are you crazy?
- 36:51Speaker 2: You see a six fort eleve and ten basketball shooting.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Look at women's the WNBA athletes. Here's a funny story.
- 37:00Speaker 2: It's only thirty seconds. Bob Guide and I are walking
- 37:03Speaker 2: into a sports softball facility again it's the eighties. We're
- 37:09Speaker 2: listening to a cracker that we're working with both men's
- 37:11Speaker 2: and women's fast pitched teams with seeing some of these kids.
- 37:15Speaker 2: We're listening to the crack of the bat which could
- 37:18Speaker 2: like take your hat off. Whoever was hitting in the
- 37:21Speaker 2: aisle you know next to us that we're walking in,
- 37:24Speaker 2: and he was mentioning the name with three guys in
- 37:26Speaker 2: a row. He walked in. Its two of the girls
- 37:28Speaker 2: who were shortstops, and guy just sits down. He says,
- 37:32Speaker 2: these girl athletes are just unbelievable in their growth as athletes.
- 37:37Speaker 2: You know when you were a kid, maybe he played
- 37:40Speaker 2: pomp pops if you had sports to play in many ways,
- 37:44Speaker 2: So it's a great science, you know, and people again
- 37:49Speaker 2: like whether it's the whole world with Goldman, the whole
- 37:53Speaker 2: world with people like Stocks and my organization, the next
- 37:56Speaker 2: National Fitness Hall of Fame, Jack Laley. We just had
- 38:01Speaker 2: a member of our National Fitness Hall of Fame two
- 38:03Speaker 2: weeks ago, competed as a senior sixty four years old
- 38:08Speaker 2: on the American Ninja. I love yeah. Man. He tried
- 38:13Speaker 2: his best, and the fact that training he was doing,
- 38:15Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe it. Wouldn't believe it. He was on
- 38:18Speaker 2: TV two weeks ago. He's coming back, try to play.
- 38:23Speaker 2: So the evolution and I think the things that you
- 38:27Speaker 2: do and have talked about, I'm sure many of your
- 38:29Speaker 2: guests when you're talking top doctors. Yes, top doctors are
- 38:34Speaker 2: still engorged with the regular doctors that we're all used to,
- 38:40Speaker 2: and our healthcare system stinks in so many ways. It's
- 38:45Speaker 2: so many.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully there's going to be changes with them.
- 38:49Speaker 2: I have experts on all the time, every level, whether
- 38:53Speaker 2: it's the financial level, whether it's the teaching level, whether
- 38:56Speaker 2: it's the learning level. You know, I have mayors on
- 39:00Speaker 2: I have others on. There's a lot of attention and awareness,
- 39:05Speaker 2: you know. But one time, twenty five years ago, I
- 39:07Speaker 2: wanted to get all schools locally to include walking in
- 39:11Speaker 2: the curriculum. And the politics that I ran into.
- 39:16Speaker 1: Really, ha, Yes, why was that? Why walking it steel safe?
- 39:21Speaker 2: And can they be inside? And what if they're in
- 39:23Speaker 2: a neighborhood and what if there's a problem and changing
- 39:26Speaker 2: the curriculum and I said, leave me alone already. But
- 39:29Speaker 2: we talked about it, and it is being included in
- 39:33Speaker 2: a lot of ways. You know, you have more anxiety
- 39:35Speaker 2: teenagers than ever. And my holistic psychiatris said, it's the
- 39:41Speaker 2: internet world and it's the pressure. But she likes and
- 39:45Speaker 2: this is a big point because I never included it.
- 39:48Speaker 2: We all know the hassles of the internet and screens
- 39:51Speaker 2: on our kids and us. She said, no, we have
- 39:54Speaker 2: to look at it as entertainment and as a side show.
- 39:58Speaker 2: So I allow my children, even if they're athletes, to
- 40:02Speaker 2: accept that, yes they're on the phone all the time,
- 40:05Speaker 2: but they're using it as some sort of escape from
- 40:10Speaker 2: their parents or their coaches. And she's had great success
- 40:15Speaker 2: with that when you think about it, But this is
- 40:18Speaker 2: the what's piling on all of us. Now, if you
- 40:22Speaker 2: add the pandemic to the mix, and I'll throw in
- 40:26Speaker 2: politics without defining it to the mix where you know,
- 40:32Speaker 2: people are burning the candle on twelve ends, so you know,
- 40:36Speaker 2: we want to be part of the educational world in
- 40:38Speaker 2: a pedietry again by itself, and they roll over foot
- 40:42Speaker 2: and everything that brings into I have a colleague. He's
- 40:45Speaker 2: the founder of an organization called LEAP l EAP Lower
- 40:51Speaker 2: Extremity Amputation Prevention. Huge problem in diabetes. Of course, you
- 40:59Speaker 2: know they had a name type two diabetes because of
- 41:02Speaker 2: how many children we were seeing. So we've adult on set.
- 41:07Speaker 2: This is a gigantic problem. A lot of it is diet,
- 41:12Speaker 2: a lot of it is where is again the PE
- 41:15Speaker 2: program for kids. So with all the progress we're making
- 41:19Speaker 2: that I'm bragging to you about, we're treading water and
- 41:24Speaker 2: we need lots of attention of awareness again, whether it's
- 41:29Speaker 2: the magazines, Gosh, it's hard to find an actual magazine
- 41:32Speaker 2: is Day and Age because you know, everything is like virtual.
- 41:36Speaker 2: But those are the combinations that I add to the
- 41:44Speaker 2: realm of the sports doctor. I'm part of an organization
- 41:47Speaker 2: called the Publicity Summit, originally they were across the street
- 41:51Speaker 2: from Madison Square Garden Bradley Communications. We'd bring together meet
- 41:57Speaker 2: the media, so we would be as part of the media.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Maybe you would be speed dated by an author or
- 42:06Speaker 2: a doctor, or an entrepreneur or an editor on why
- 42:09Speaker 2: they might be on your show. And this has exploded
- 42:13Speaker 2: in a talent pool that really really has avased me
- 42:17Speaker 2: in so many areas. And you get in mental recovery,
- 42:22Speaker 2: these kinds of challenges anxiety awareness. It's the biggest topic
- 42:26Speaker 2: in our country is mental health.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Bob, if you could have a perfect world,
- 42:34Speaker 1: if you look as you defined it, what would that
- 42:36Speaker 1: look like.
- 42:38Speaker 2: It's the new medicine again, awareness of the new medicine.
- 42:43Speaker 2: It is a healthcare system that takes care of all
- 42:45Speaker 2: of us whatever we got to figure out. Having the
- 42:49Speaker 2: anxiety that you can go bankrupt or your parents could
- 42:53Speaker 2: go bankrupt. Is so being covered for that without that worry.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Every advances country in the world. The again, the idea
- 43:05Speaker 2: that you would be again including the fact of the
- 43:09Speaker 2: importance of reducing stress of rest and recovery both physically
- 43:13Speaker 2: and mentally, and paying big attention to that. So again,
- 43:19Speaker 2: where we would have a situation where you would have
- 43:23Speaker 2: much more cooperation somehow, even spiritually. The best athletes in
- 43:29Speaker 2: the world today include spirituality and not hung up on religion.
- 43:35Speaker 2: Albani's religion, you know, good luck to you. Hey, it's
- 43:39Speaker 2: more adversary than anything else. But spiritually it is a
- 43:42Speaker 2: higher power. All of these other things are a tremendous weapon,
- 43:47Speaker 2: whether it's with you know, trying to live one day
- 43:49Speaker 2: to the other. So I would again include the awareness
- 43:52Speaker 2: and the reduction of pressure and sharing. You know, if
- 43:57Speaker 2: we could just buy into in the perfect world again.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I have very famous colleagues series of books called Conversations
- 44:04Speaker 2: with God by Neil Donald Walsh. I don't know if
- 44:07Speaker 2: you've ever heard of that. They're profound, Yeah, and they
- 44:10Speaker 2: are about three principles of all of it. Nine books,
- 44:15Speaker 2: three principles, perfect world, having fun with it. They're very simple.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Think about it. Number one, we're all one. Somehow can
- 44:24Speaker 2: you get off killing each other? Somehow can you get
- 44:28Speaker 2: off this that you don't know how to get along?
- 44:30Speaker 2: Number two, there's enough, whether it's food, whether it's money,
- 44:35Speaker 2: whether it's sunshine, Whether there's enough if we could somehow
- 44:40Speaker 2: not have a thousand children to day dying of hunger,
- 44:42Speaker 2: because we don't know how to hell to share it.
- 44:45Speaker 2: We don't know how to number them. Yes, and number
- 44:48Speaker 2: three is there's nothing we have to do. Again, this
- 44:52Speaker 2: is again part of the conversations with God thinking, which
- 44:56Speaker 2: is everybody's going to heaven. There's no such thing as dead.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Get off it already. There's not a vengeful of you know, God,
- 45:04Speaker 2: who's after us. We're born in sin. It's all a
- 45:07Speaker 2: lot of baloney. We have to have a different definition
- 45:10Speaker 2: of what that means to us. Again, number one, we're
- 45:13Speaker 2: all on. Number two, there's enough everybody. And number three,
- 45:18Speaker 2: you know, don't don't shoot me because you got to
- 45:21Speaker 2: rob me. Go to you know what I mean. I
- 45:23Speaker 2: legalize drugs tomorrow, I would require I would take the
- 45:26Speaker 2: money out of it. You're out of business cartel. If
- 45:30Speaker 2: you want, you want heroin, go to a clinic. We'll
- 45:33Speaker 2: pay attention to it. You can get a clean needle,
- 45:35Speaker 2: you'll get therapy if you need so. That would be
- 45:38Speaker 2: the perfect world. If somehow, according to conversations with God,
- 45:43Speaker 2: we are primitive. We don't know how to stop killing
- 45:46Speaker 2: each other. So again, at the top level, you want
- 45:49Speaker 2: to throw in sports medicine. We're trying to have fun.
- 45:53Speaker 2: We're trying to include being as ageless and as timeless
- 45:56Speaker 2: as we can. You know, eighties, the new sixty sixty,
- 46:00Speaker 2: he's a new fifty that we want to pay big
- 46:01Speaker 2: attention to the physical side. What's your medical history? Pay
- 46:06Speaker 2: attention and again number two, which is to learn how
- 46:12Speaker 2: to at least include that you are including movement and
- 46:16Speaker 2: that you are paying attention to the mental game. And
- 46:20Speaker 2: then we do the best we can. You know, then
- 46:21Speaker 2: I'll be a flip a coin, raise a glass.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Well you you said in the very beginning, you know
- 46:28Speaker 1: what I call the five spokes of the wheel when
- 46:31Speaker 1: we talk about nutrition and stress management and movement, and
- 46:36Speaker 1: but there was one that you I wanted to add
- 46:39Speaker 1: in there that I think is very much evident in
- 46:43Speaker 1: the Blue zones where Dan Butner, you know, has written
- 46:47Speaker 1: his book and there's so much research now on these
- 46:52Speaker 1: centenarians and why are they what they are? Well, those
- 46:56Speaker 1: you know, those few principles you've already mentioned, but then
- 46:59Speaker 1: they are always add community connection.
- 47:03Speaker 2: So and tennis was number one, you know, of all
- 47:06Speaker 2: sports the people if it's an amazing figured they would
- 47:09Speaker 2: come up with these stats. But the sport that allows
- 47:12Speaker 2: the longest longevity is tennis. It's racket sports where you
- 47:17Speaker 2: have maybe a teammate, you have socialization, you know, you
- 47:21Speaker 2: have all these areas that become important. And I think
- 47:26Speaker 2: I'm glad you've added that because it's such a main component.
- 47:30Speaker 2: But again, these people have learned to live off the
- 47:33Speaker 2: land nutritionally, They've learned they needed to walk to wherever
- 47:38Speaker 2: they were going. They included being on real surfaces again,
- 47:43Speaker 2: where you were barefoot. In a lot of ways, we
- 47:46Speaker 2: need to look back and include those principles.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Well, of course, the ancient wisdom very often is neglected,
- 47:53Speaker 1: and yet it's timeless. Yeah, we talk about angels and timeless.
- 47:57Speaker 7: That's why I had to be fust on from the
- 48:00Speaker 7: from the Netherlans, the actly we were talking about, you
- 48:03Speaker 7: know Laotsu who wrote you know again the famous famous
- 48:07Speaker 7: book Timeless and you know, twenty five hundred years ago.
- 48:10Speaker 2: Whatever the heck it was right and the what was
- 48:13Speaker 2: the name of that book? How could that escape me?
- 48:15Speaker 1: I don't know to hear that was one of the
- 48:17Speaker 1: most famous.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Well famous. It'll hit us. We'll write to you everybody
- 48:21Speaker 2: if you yeah, yes, But it was again the fact
- 48:26Speaker 2: of these important interactions of people. The importance again of
- 48:33Speaker 2: communication are as important today as they were twenty five
- 48:38Speaker 2: hundred years ago. And sometimes it's amazing that as primitive
- 48:42Speaker 2: as we might have been. But if someone was to
- 48:45Speaker 2: say to you again a part of conversations that God
- 48:49Speaker 2: will hung up on what's right and what's wrong instead
- 48:52Speaker 2: of saying, would you please include what works you know?
- 48:56Speaker 2: Would you think about that? Also? It's an interesting concept.
- 49:00Speaker 2: But I've had caregivers on my show. You know that
- 49:03Speaker 2: there were thirteen million, give or take a few caregivers
- 49:08Speaker 2: Sanders generation, people taking care of their parents and their children,
- 49:13Speaker 2: both financially and again nor medically. So again we get
- 49:18Speaker 2: back to, you know, my friends with the senior citizens
- 49:21Speaker 2: and the baby boomers, the idea of community. Many of
- 49:25Speaker 2: these old cultures, they stress, I'll tell you who should
- 49:29Speaker 2: be taking care of your children. They're the grandparents who
- 49:32Speaker 2: have the wisdom. They're not the parents who were all
- 49:35Speaker 2: of a sudden, Their parents are twenty two years old
- 49:38Speaker 2: and they haven't grown up yet themselves. So you know, again,
- 49:42Speaker 2: when you talk about some of these ancient themes, people
- 49:45Speaker 2: lived in clusters they didn't know from big cities and
- 49:49Speaker 2: where you didn't know who's living next door to you
- 49:51Speaker 2: or whatever. So but I have confidence in three to
- 49:55Speaker 2: five generations from now, Michelle, I think it's going to
- 49:59Speaker 2: take that law.
- 50:00Speaker 1: You know.
- 50:00Speaker 2: That's why we couldn't accept people who many times are
- 50:04Speaker 2: talking about some of these kinds of theories they want
- 50:07Speaker 2: to get into government, and people don't want to hear
- 50:10Speaker 2: about it because they think they're too spiritual in one
- 50:13Speaker 2: way or the other. So I include that world a
- 50:18Speaker 2: big time when we're talking the top of sports and
- 50:21Speaker 2: athletics again and again that you know mindfulness. Can you
- 50:27Speaker 2: forget that last shot you hit in golf when you
- 50:30Speaker 2: were a pro and you're going to the next hole,
- 50:32Speaker 2: Can you be in the moment you could train for it?
- 50:36Speaker 2: And that's surprise on the people.
- 50:38Speaker 1: There's a great saying that the past is a canceled check,
- 50:42Speaker 1: the present, the future is a promissory note, and the
- 50:46Speaker 1: present is a gift, which is why it's called the present.
- 50:50Speaker 2: And yeah, you guys, you were said and done. That
- 50:54Speaker 2: is what we have to get. There are methods to
- 50:58Speaker 2: train those systems for you, your parents, your children in
- 51:03Speaker 2: order to pay attention even if somebody's saying, you know,
- 51:06Speaker 2: sit by yourself ten minutes a day, just relax and
- 51:09Speaker 2: try to tone down. I had visualization with my young
- 51:15Speaker 2: figure skaters twenty five years ago, and the sports world
- 51:19Speaker 2: thought it was voodoo.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Well remember remember those books, uh, The Inner Golf and
- 51:25Speaker 1: the Inner Tennis and Galway Kimothy God.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Doctor Jim Viory Mind Golf, Mind God is the name
- 51:32Speaker 2: of his book. Exactly. Golf was way ahead in the
- 51:36Speaker 2: area of sports psychology when it came. You know, one
- 51:39Speaker 2: of my guests, and ironically his last name is Callaway,
- 51:42Speaker 2: Paul Calloway, so he's not Calloway golf, but Paul Calloway
- 51:45Speaker 2: is a physical therapist, mental trainer who was the first
- 51:49Speaker 2: physical therapist on the golf wagon with the Jack Nicholases
- 51:52Speaker 2: and the Arnold Palmers and whatever. And again, none of
- 51:55Speaker 2: these golfers were people who did strengthen it. They played
- 51:59Speaker 2: more golf. And these are the kinds of educations that
- 52:04Speaker 2: made a huge difference. And the mental thing you just said,
- 52:08Speaker 2: And again, where can you be in the present? You
- 52:11Speaker 2: know a guide to Hey you, I'll tell you who
- 52:14Speaker 2: tried to teach tiger woods. That was Paul Callaway. Tiger
- 52:18Speaker 2: Woods came by the Western Tournament every year when he
- 52:21Speaker 2: was a kid, and Calloway would say to him, again,
- 52:24Speaker 2: you know, don't run sprints with weighted vests and trying
- 52:28Speaker 2: to be a navy seal. You're gonna get hurt. And
- 52:31Speaker 2: he wouldn't listen to us, and he wanted to be
- 52:34Speaker 2: a navy seal and lift weights and get all involved.
- 52:37Speaker 2: And it was one problem after another. He ended up
- 52:40Speaker 2: with his back and his knees, et cetera. And it's
- 52:43Speaker 2: an education again. You see a golf of the guy six'.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Five everybody hits the ball three hundred and fifty. Yards
- 52:50Speaker 2: you know every place kicker now k kicks fifty. Yards
- 52:55Speaker 2: we never saw. That so all and again these athletic
- 52:59Speaker 2: abilities H so again remember, everybody strengthen your feet and
- 53:03Speaker 2: angles and work.
- 53:04Speaker 1: Balance that's. Wonderful that's a good way of rus to,
- 53:07Speaker 1: end because UH i elude.
- 53:10Speaker 2: It i'm not saying be a. Maniac learn how to
- 53:13Speaker 2: use rubber, bands learn how to balance like on the.
- 53:17Speaker 2: Bosu you know what's called the look up sand Dune
- 53:20Speaker 2: stepper's magical where simulates being on the. Sand strength in the.
- 53:25Speaker 2: Gigitos i'll leave it with. This have you ever heard
- 53:27Speaker 2: the term Vn, clyburne the famous. Pianist, yeah that was
- 53:31Speaker 2: guy to. Thing try strengthen your. Feet are we ending
- 53:34Speaker 2: it on that?
- 53:35Speaker 1: Note?
- 53:35Speaker 2: WELL i want to end on a high.
- 53:37Speaker 1: Note so what would you want to share with the.
- 53:39Speaker 1: AUDIENCE i obviously just shared some of your, wisdom but
- 53:43Speaker 1: what what would be the one the one pearl of
- 53:46Speaker 1: wisdom that you would, SAY i have to let everybody here.
- 53:51Speaker 2: Know include the new medicine think about?
- 53:54Speaker 1: It which is one really functional? Medicine, yes it is functional.
- 53:59Speaker 2: Medicine the term didn't. Exist, okay now it exists because
- 54:02Speaker 2: the people looking for. Causes what about? That including it smart?
- 54:07Speaker 2: Again so include your own personal. History, yeah. Betan if
- 54:11Speaker 2: you want to start a new, activity get your body
- 54:14Speaker 2: you ready for, it including including your rubber, body, hand,
- 54:18Speaker 2: wrist st. Elbow you want to play a pick a
- 54:20Speaker 2: ball and including again and your son or daughter was playing,
- 54:24Speaker 2: sports pay big attention to including go to a physical therapy.
- 54:28Speaker 2: Group learn a home program that includes foot ankle. Balance
- 54:33Speaker 2: you'll be two steps. Quicker pay attention to orthotics if
- 54:39Speaker 2: you've got foot ankle lower extremity, history especially if you're
- 54:44Speaker 2: a female and you've got knee, problems.
- 54:46Speaker 1: And and you've went by eels like most of the
- 54:49Speaker 1: WOMEN i, know.
- 54:52Speaker 2: The WOMEN i, see we have what's called the dress,
- 54:54Speaker 2: orthodic which is a device that could be used in low, heels, boots.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Flats every go to The Sports doctor radio dot. Com
- 55:05Speaker 2: you'll find out whatever you want to pay attention to
- 55:08Speaker 2: and we'll be glad to come back in the. Future,
- 55:11Speaker 2: again we like to d Sports doctors and segments where
- 55:15Speaker 2: people have very important. Audiences we're all trying to get
- 55:19Speaker 2: the word out and again about the three things we talked, about, awareness,
- 55:24Speaker 2: education taking. Action so it's been. Fun, Michelle, well there it.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Is the three a's all, right, Well, aea, awareness education and.
- 55:34Speaker 2: Action absolutely, yes and Again michelle was a guesst done by.
- 55:38Speaker 2: Show check her.
- 55:39Speaker 1: Out, yeah well you've been great and, doctor will you,
- 55:42Speaker 1: KNOW i think everybody wants to after this show is
- 55:45Speaker 1: going to want to talk to you because there isn't
- 55:47Speaker 1: a PERSON i know that doesn't want to be better
- 55:50Speaker 1: at whatever they. Do there's very few people that are
- 55:54Speaker 1: not at least have some competitive.
- 55:56Speaker 2: Spirit AND i got not for you WHEN i showed
- 55:58Speaker 2: you the fun Book take a Sports. Parents the next
- 56:01Speaker 2: one's gonna be hashtag hey sports. Grandparents oh cook people
- 56:05Speaker 2: with their, children their. Grandchildren, again youth sports is such
- 56:09Speaker 2: a big. Deal remember WHAT i said is an epidemic
- 56:13Speaker 2: of overuse so many times. Again The Sports doctors in
- 56:17Speaker 2: is about having a plan that includes all these aspects
- 56:21Speaker 2: to stay out of trouble and enhance. Performance and that's
- 56:26Speaker 2: what we're all.
- 56:26Speaker 1: About get your book On. Amazon is that what you're?
- 56:29Speaker 2: Saying, yes they can sports a hairshtake A sports Back
- 56:33Speaker 2: doctors still available On, Oka amazon and. Again then you
- 56:36Speaker 2: go to bbsradio dot Com Fluwen slash The Sports, doctor
- 56:40Speaker 2: and you can listen to the past. Show listen to
- 56:42Speaker 2: the one With. Michelle she was, Greaty you're a great
- 56:46Speaker 2: ank You. Michelle all, right.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Well you have a wonderful, weekend and thank you so
- 56:50Speaker 1: much for taking a good hour with us today and
- 56:53Speaker 1: sharing your pearls of wisdom.
- 56:55Speaker 2: And The Sports doctors. In how CAN i help?
- 56:57Speaker 1: You, yeah forty forty four years of, THAT i mean,
- 57:00Speaker 1: there you can't argue the longevity and. Expertise, alright take,
- 57:07Speaker 1: care
- 57:13Speaker 3: H