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Why So Defensive? I Ep 90 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Hello and welcome to episode 90 of Draft Offsides.
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I'm with Tico and Enzo. My name is Keith.
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The season is officially over. Congratulations to all the
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Champions out there. Congratulations to Tico on his
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first place in one of our leagues.
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Congratulations to Enzo in a second place in one of our
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leagues. Congratulations to me on 3rd
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place in both of our leagues. We got some winners.
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We got people that placed across the board.
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We're happy. OK, so the season's over.
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We're gonna just maybe spent a few minutes recapping some of
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the games and then it's just kind of talking about the
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future, I guess, talking about and then maybe talking about
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some of like, who are the top performers?
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What does that mean for the future and all those things?
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So I think the the thing I'm most interested and excited
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about is some of the new guys coming in.
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And so that begs the question, Florian words, if he comes into
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the league, where is he going in drafts?
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I don't know because he was so good in Bundesliga.
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Who's who's come from Bundesliga to the league and like Holland,
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Holland, Holland? Yeah, but yeah, a lot of people,
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a lot of players have come and not done well.
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Kyle Havarts. Especially players from
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Mauritian Dortmund mostly soundtrack.
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Or or like Leverkusen. How's it natural?
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Havarts. No, I said.
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Sancho. Sanchez struggled for at
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Dortmund like Havarts and and then and then Leipzig was and
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then for in Kuku there's been, I mean, I think it's been across
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the league everyone, a lot of German players come and struggle
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here, a lot of. Not generally, not necessarily.
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Generally, yes. Kagawa Makitaryan didn't didn't
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capture the same form but but. Makitaryan is a different story
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because he's it's clear he clearly wasn't the issue.
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Yeah, well, you look at how good he's doing now for Inter.
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It's just he went to Man U with Marino, which you know, was a
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defect. It just wasn't.
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It just wasn't. But but, you know, just looking
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at where's his number the last two years, Ander Chabi, Alonzo,
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32 games, eleven goals. 31 games, ten goals.
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So OK. How many assists are?
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Let me pull that up. There's a lot going on.
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There's like Villa not making Champions League has changed it
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up, like they're not going to keep all the players.
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Well, let's say focus on this. Thing real quick 12 assists and
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11 assists and each year each year he has three yellows each
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year so Oh yeah, I mean it's a negative point.
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So he's not really going to be in trouble.
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So and he's been playing 3132 matches so I think words is
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going to have value. Obviously we're thinking Nunez
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is going to be out of the squad, right?
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Darwin Nunez is probably going to be gone.
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I saw today, I don't know if you guys saw Harvey Elliott, it's
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going to be gone as well. So you would think he's going to
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obviously play an attacking role.
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I think the goals and assists will be there.
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I I think he would be close to double double in the first year.
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So I would say end of second round, an early 3rd.
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It's just, I mean with those numbers, people who scored
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double, double S, they're averaging what, like 10 plus
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points per game 12/13? I think end of first.
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Oh, you're also, you're even higher on that.
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Yeah. So to me, I love the Liverpool
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offense. Obviously they put in a lot of
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goals. The it's going to matter who's
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going to be playing their number 9.
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And I'm more I'm hesitant to take a player on the first year,
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then let's say if there's someone who's a proven
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commodity. That totally makes sense.
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I totally understand it. I think.
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I think for me it's when you look at like, you look at the
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the players, you know, it's like obviously the first six are
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pretty, you know, whatever order you want to put in, Saka, Salaf,
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Bruno, Palmer, Holland, Isaac. After that, it's like you're
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getting into some weird territory.
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You're getting to like Embuemo Cunya.
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All the way you could go 100 point difference keep.
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All the way you could go to Man United, you know what I mean?
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Like and then and then it's like, you know, Jared Bowen, who
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I like but is not the sexiest pick.
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Like, would you, would you really fault anyone for going
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Florian Warts in the sevens? You don't see that as.
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A risk. Oh, I think it's a huge risk,
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but I think there's a lot of upside there with this
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deliverable team that has such good structure, the coaching
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system that everything is so set in place as I and I'm not saying
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I'm picking for where it's 7 right now.
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I think we have said a lot of time, but I'm just saying that I
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think there's an argument to be made that he's like a a late to
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middle, middle late 1st rounder. It's.
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Let's the world doesn't know this, but keeps very high on
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worth as a player. You love him as a player, right?
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I'm not even saying I'm so, so high on him.
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I'm just looking at the pedigree.
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I'm looking at what he's done. I'm looking at the team.
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He's coming. And do you like, I wouldn't be
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the time. I mean, if he came to Chelsea, I
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wouldn't be the time if he was that Man United.
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I think it's the fact that he's going to Liverpool where they
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tend to, they tend to make players better, where a lot of
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these, a lot of other clubs in the Premier League don't make
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players. Better.
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One thing you mentioned Tottenham in those.
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That that because they don't make players better.
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Let me let me give you a couple players and let's see where you
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go from there. Also, just before I name this,
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it also matters what what is at least classified as a forward or
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a defender. I'm sorry, Miss Fielder.
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Miss Fielder. I think it'll.
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Be a forward. I think it'll have to.
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I mean. Yeah, I mean as a midfielder,
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so. So would you rather take Gordon
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or Warts? I think I take Gordon.
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I mean warts. I mean, I think I take words.
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As they are warts, yeah. I think because of the team, I
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think I would take words. Well, what if Eze goes the
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freaking man? See.
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Then there's questions about if he if he's going to play the
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game in every minute like he does it at sit at Crystal
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Palace. I think Eze is pretty tight for
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me. You know, that's a tough one.
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Man City, I'm probably going to try to stay away from Man City
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just because I don't want to go through that roller coaster.
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Unless you have the players that are going to play like a
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Holland, right? All of us had a mad City player.
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So even if as it goes there, you look at the competition there,
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Savio, Marmouche, Doku, Fordon, what form is he going to be in?
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And they're probably going to bring in more players.
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So that's just the team that's going to be.
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It's not fun. It's maybe a mass waking up at
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4:00 to see if Doku's playing over Savio.
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Not fun, man. No, it's not fun.
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Yeah, no trust. As someone who, like you, had
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yeah Doku in one league, I had Savio in another.
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League I had doku in savio. In another league, yeah.
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Two leagues, yeah. And you guys?
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In Savio, so it's not fun. So I think the words it's going
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to be 1 who's I wouldn't be surprised if people reach on
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him. I actually expect people to
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reach on him I. Think it will and that that's
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the thing T goes. I'm not I'm not saying it's not
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a reach. Like I agree that it's probably
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a bit of a reach, but I think that that's where he's going to
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end up going in drafts. Not necessarily that he's going
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to be worth it there because I think there's a lot of
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uncertainty. But yeah, just an interesting,
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interesting thing to think about, especially, you know, a
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lot of time between now and then.
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Just stick on low porn. Think about Frank Pong.
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I was thinking about this a lot too, and I think for a lot of
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the same reasons about just adjusting to a new league and
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and those sets of things. I think it's tricky and I don't
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think, I think it's probably gonna be third, late second,
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third, maybe. This is like because it's
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attacking prowess and how. Yes, I mean that that's really
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big a part of it. I think part of it too is that
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like I think I'd rather there's a few defenders I'd rather take
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ahead of him, even though he I think he's going to be really
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promising. And I think it's it's like, you
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know, obviously I think like Munez and Robinson probably will
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go ahead of him. But I think that the other
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concern for me is that Trent wasn't as high up the pitch this
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year and he saw and he saw doesn't have his wingbacks kind
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of fly as much as clock, did they?
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They're not getting as high up the field.
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And that might change with frame pong.
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But I also think that when you look at frame pong, he's much
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more of a dribbler. He's not as much of A creator as
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Trent was. Trent was, you know, the way he
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would his passing. And like, they're they're two
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very different profiles. So I don't know.
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I just think that I don't know. I'm not frame pong gets me a
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little nervous, OK? Kirk has left back for Liverpool
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if he goes. You feel the same thing I I'm
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thinking 4th, 5th, 6th. No, but I mean you think the
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same thing, that you won't go up as high like you did for for
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Bournemouth because? I mean, I think he might, yeah.
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I don't know. I mean, because if you're
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really. Going for both those wing backs,
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like they're wing backs. They're not.
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They're not flying left. They're going to be flying up
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and down those wings. Yeah, I mean, it's a good point.
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But yeah, I mean, just just having the opportunity to get
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high up the field is going to be it's going to be there.
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I mean, Liverpool is also like they're going to get up there.
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I mean, look at that. Bradley's Bradley got an assist
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in the second last game of the season where he was at the
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touchline. So they still get there.
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I'm just saying that when under clock, when is Robertson and
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Trent, they were, I mean they were like playing like wing
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backs and they weren't wing backs.
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They were, you know, so it is different.
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It is different. But they also, I mean, last year
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under club they gave up 41 goals.
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This year they gave up again. 41 goals with this.
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That is interesting. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point.
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I thought that they would have had a better defensive record
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this year, but also, I mean. They they locked up the league
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early and I think the last. Two games they gave up like a
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few. I was going to say that.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, Next big sign.
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Where's the lap going? It's.
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Looking like Chelsea. Looking at Chelsea?
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I think United not getting Champions League hurt that
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opportunity for them. I don't know how I feel about it
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for Chelsea though, to be honest.
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I'd rather have like a little more of an established guy as
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opposed to having like Jackson in the lap.
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Just feels like that could be a comedy routine.
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You think so? I like them I think.
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You could, I mean, I like both of them.
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I'm just saying that like having two young guys.
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I I think I'd rather have like a like a little more of a senior
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striker, proven goal scorer in there.
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And then like a Jackson who's still, yeah, Jackson's only 23.
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He's still young, you know? Yeah.
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So. Yeah, well, the lapse, obviously
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I'll be coming off the bench, but if you're honest, he ain't
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gonna start if he goes there. Over at Jackson.
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Yeah, he won't start over Jackson.
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I think it'll be competitive. I think if Jackson, I think if
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Jackson has a few games where he doesn't score, I think the lap
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will be in. I think that's what Jackson
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lacked was having someone was like looking over his shoulder,
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you know, and having. There's a lot of things Jackson
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likes. I go today in the final.
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We didn't even talk about the fact that Chelsea won the final
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today. 412 went down one new early, a little bit shaky and
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then boom the goals started flooding in, especially late it.
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Was a good day. It was a good, good day.
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Happy for the London team. Yeah, big, big year for all the
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all the top London teams. Yeah, Arsenal beat Real Madrid.
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That's their trophy. But they did still have a better
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season than us, so. They I don't, I don't think you
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can say that. I'm being sarcastic.
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OK, is that what that all the all our SO fans are arguing that
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right? It's funny because I can say
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this right now when Tottenham was coming top four year after
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year and not win anything and also kept saying we haven't won
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anything. Yeah, that shit season and now
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we've con 17, which is, don't get wrong, fucking horrible, but
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we won a cup. Now the European Cup doesn't
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mean shit so. That's of course, I mean, but
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that's how just fans are going to be like I, I think it's just
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funny because Arsenal, like Arsenal fans have been so kind
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of like harshing on Tottenham for so long and then to have it
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flipped, you just got to be able to take another chin.
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Sergey put in the chat that it doesn't matter.
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Yeah, it's, I mean, it's like the the denial is a little
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annoying. Just take it on the chain.
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Like even you've been clowning on Tottenham fans for years.
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You got to be able to take it on the chain when you.
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Pretty fun. Even when Gary Henry came out
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and said Arsenal under. Is it time to start thinking
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about change well? Did he really?
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Yeah. He said it.
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He said it on a point, on a what's that?
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What was that? Something football with Gary,
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not Gary with Gary. Yeah.
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Gary Neville and Roy King. Was it?
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Was it on that show? I just thought I didn't see.
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What? I mean, So what, 7 years?
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He got a trophy in his first year and hasn't gotten one
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since. Yeah, I mean not, but.
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They finished, they finished second three years in a row,
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which shows they're they're compared.
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I mean, it's a, it's obviously a great team.
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Yeah, they just, they need a fucking striker and saying it
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for two years for sure. I think they're one of only
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three teams that didn't have a player to score in double digit
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goals. That is true.
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Do you know who their high score was?
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Stock on nine goals. Carl Averts.
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Yeah. And it was 9, I think stock had
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like 8 or 7. All right, so sorry, that was a
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few little fun questions at the beginning.
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Let's just talk about game week 38 real quick.
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There's not. I mean, obviously we're we're
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past it now and we don't need to like relive the past.
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I think there's some big, big moments.
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And those moments were mostly for the top 4 finishes.
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So it was the Chelsea beating Forest.
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Man, you can still. Losing and still getting through
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that man, You game with Villa. There's really sad for Villa.
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You feel for him, right? You can't help but feel for him.
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It should have been VAR man VAR fucked he.
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Will the ref fucked it? Up Sorry the ref fucked it up.
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Didn't he give the? Chance.
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Yeah, because he blew his whistle before.
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You guys. Think it was a red?
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Oh, no, no, no. No, that was a red talking
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about. The goal, The goal for the
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Rogers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Really, really sad. But now we're looking at, we're
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now we're looking at six teams in your in Europe or in.
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Champions League next year. Oh, in.
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Champions League next year. Yeah, six teams in Champions
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League next. Year and then what, 2IN Europa
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and then one in conference. Yeah.
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So that's a lot of teams that I can potentially have a lot of
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games. So I don't know.
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It'll be interesting. Will that affect your drafting?
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You know, whoa, like in the back of your mind, if you're choosing
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between a guy that has the European football and the guy
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who doesn't. So you really got to think about
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it. So I was thinking about Villa
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and how they didn't get Champions League.
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Are they going to still invest? I think they should still invest
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because I think they want to compete for top four, top five,
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wherever it might be next season.
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And do they keep one or the other or do they keep both of
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Rashford and Ascencio? I think it's a matter of it's
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not a matter of if they will, can they invest because of PSR
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and because of those things. I think that's that's going to
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be the bigger question. You know what the money
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differences between Champions League and Europa is there a big
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money difference? Champions League and Europa.
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Like the money you get from playing?
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Like insane is it? Insane amount.
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Insane amount, was it? So United got 5.5 million for
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runners up in Europa League, which is like pennies.
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Yeah, it's nothing. It's pennies.
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Yeah. So like this, the Club World Cup
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that's happening, you know, in, in a month, that purse like the
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first place gets like 50 million for that.
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Fuck, you know. That's going to be a huge deal
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like that. This Club World Cup.
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I think it's going to become a bigger thing because there's so
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much prize money involved. So I still don't like it.
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So I I like the idea that it's just too many games, right?
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We agree. This is off of Reddit, so
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competing in the group stage. Minimum earnings for Champions
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League, it's 8.6 million. Europa has 1.3.
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Yeah, yeah. And then obviously the more you
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play, the better it is. Like even like let's say the
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overall winner, it's one is 10.5 million, the other one is just 5
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million. And that's just the prize money
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you have to think about like sponsorships, like Chelsea
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having like holding off on getting in front of jersey
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sponsor children, Champions League.
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So then they can get. A be a revenue gate attendance
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you know. Yeah.
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So that's just. Yeah.
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So it ends up ballooning to but. Keith, to answer your question,
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it does make a difference for me, especially when let's look
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at this year for example, right, Arsenal played in the Champions
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League. Obviously they made a deep run
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towards the end of the year when they were no longer, they gave
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up on the Premier League. You didn't know who was.
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They were arresting a lot of their players.
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So it does factor in. But I think if there's a player
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that they're close to each other, I think I would probably
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go the one with that's not in the European, but at the same
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time, like you're not going to pass up on like someone who's an
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amazing player just because they're playing in Europe, yeah.
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Yeah. So it's more like a tiebreaker
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as opposed to something it's really going to stop you from.
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I think it's if I'm, if I'm 5050 between two players, that would
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be the yeah, tiebreaker. All right, well then, let's look
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at some of the top performers of the season.
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Muhammad Salah 734.25 points. Go home.
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That is insane. He was that's a what, 150 more
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than the next closest in Brandon with 581.75 that is.
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I mean he saw almost broke fantasy this.
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Year he tied Alan Shearer and was it Andy Cole's record for Co
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involvements? Do you guys think he kind of
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messed up because the last few games he wasn't swearing a lot?
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He could have broken that record.
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Well, from what you guys are, especially what you were saying,
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take away he wants to beat the wreck.
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He just couldn't do it because it just like I said, they they
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won the league and they just look like they just.
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He started all 38 Premier League games.
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Because in the last six games he only had two goals, no assists.
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I mean, even He's human is going to have a little bit of a
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downturn. Losala first place 734 points
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and then from attacker from forwards.
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Brian and Blenmo 581.75. Cunha 471.75, ESAC 464.25 and
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then Simenyo 432.5. Simenyo.
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That is the surprise. I mean, yeah, I think Bueno and
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Simenyo are the two I think. I mean, Bueno went when the 4th,
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5th round, Simenyo went like in the eighth round.
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But like, yeah, where they're placing, that's phenomenal.
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Yep, you're so happy. But it'll be interesting because
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of these, of these five attackers, three of them might
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be moving clubs. Well, Kunya's already.
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He is over here man, you know. Yeah, so Kunya's probably, Yeah,
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I think it's all but officially confirmed.
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But is Sax not going on where they go Champions League
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football? They sax not going anywhere.
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Saul's not going anywhere, obviously.
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So Meno, there's rumors that he might go somewhere.
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Bueno. I mean, did you hear the rumors
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about United? Yeah.
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Could you? Could you, could you really see
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them getting Bueno and kunya? Yeah, I could.
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If they got rid of, you know, Rashford, Gonacho goes.
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They're going to need cover and if they do sell Bruno Fernandez
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to Saudi League, they're going to need them.
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OK, so here's my question then. If Emblem and Cuna both go
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United, are you, are we, are we really being serious about
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potentially drafting 4 United players in the 1st 15 picks?
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I don't know that to. Me feels crazy like let's let's
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draft 4 players from the 5th, 15th best team last year.
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Obviously new players, new thing, but it just feels like a
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crazy. But there are some teams who are
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not good teams, but they're players are fantasy studs.
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Yeah, that's true and I agree with that.
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Ameren had a terrible season this season, but he also only
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has one player in DOGU. That's the player he bought.
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So this will be two players he buys for his his tactics.
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Diallo, I think if he just plays every single game this year, I
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think Diallo is going to be up there in, you know, first and
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second round, whoever wants if you're a main I fan, so they
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could have a better team offensively.
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It's not the offense that I'm too worried about from these
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moves. If they make these moves, it's
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still going to be a defense. Their defenses was better.
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I think their defence got better as the season went on and as
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Emery made it. But it was they they were not.
18:15
It was the offense that was the. Problem like Lindelof is going
18:18
to be gone. He's out of contract.
18:20
Ericsson's obviously going. To be gone.
18:21
No, no, no. I'm just saying, though, that
18:23
the the void he's going to have to fill with the players that
18:26
he's losing, that they're not resigning and the players are
18:28
going to sell. He has a big he's, he's going to
18:31
have some money to spend. I don't know how much, but he
18:33
ain't going to be as much as it would have been if he had
18:35
Champions League. And they have a lot of
18:37
defenders, they. Have a lot of defenders, yeah,
18:39
but who? McGuire.
18:40
Who wants him? They want him.
18:42
They should keep McGuire. They should absolutely keep
18:45
McGuire. Mazzaro the lead.
18:48
That's what. Martinez is probably Martinez
18:53
the lower. I mean, Luke Shah is still
18:54
around. Yeah, I think it's for them.
18:57
It's getting rid of all the Deadwood, like getting like if
18:59
you're getting like Castamero on what, 350,000 a week for what he
19:04
does, it's just not good enough. You know, he's not good enough
19:06
for that, that for that money he's getting paid right now.
19:08
And in this stage, his career, obviously he's a legend.
19:11
You got called out for Brazil. Yeah, saw that.
19:14
All right. Refocusing.
19:18
Are we like worried about Holland at all?
19:20
Just with the last few years he's been missing a few games
19:23
this. He hasn't been as dominant since
19:24
that very first year. He just hasn't been as dominant.
19:27
He's also out for quite a bit, man, I know when even when he
19:31
played, the only thing that I think was going to happen is
19:33
Messi is going to bounce back. I don't think they they still
19:36
came. What?
19:36
They still came third. Oh no, they came 4th. 3rd.
19:39
Third. Yeah, they still came third and
19:41
this is seen as a shitty season season for him.
19:44
Only three points behind Arsenal.
19:45
So let's recap Holland's three years.
19:48
This is his worst year. 20 Two goals, 3 assists.
19:51
Play 31 games, Average 14 points a game.
19:54
That's first round numbers. It's first round numbers.
19:56
It's only first round numbers. So you're saying even in a bad
19:58
year? It's just we got spoiled on this
20:01
first year. It's simple as that.
20:02
That is second year, perfectly honest.
20:04
Yeah, 16 points out of 16, yeah. So I'm not worried about
20:07
Holland, I'm not worried about CC has what money and lawyers so
20:11
they can spend wherever the hell they want and they can build
20:13
this team to what they want. Pep's going to do a lot of he's
20:16
going to buy some players. I don't know who he's going to
20:18
buy, but there's going to be a bunch of players he's going to
20:20
buy to try to fill in the void, and some of them work and some
20:23
of them won't. Well, Pep said that he doesn't
20:25
want a team with like 20 something players.
20:27
Yeah, which is OK. Bullshit.
20:30
We'll see. I'm not worried about Holland.
20:31
He'll still he'll be good next season.
20:33
He's he's still top three. I mean, he was ranked 9th
20:36
overall. Yeah, I told points.
20:39
Yeah, but. OK, but I think here's my thing
20:41
is that when you look at points per start, and so we're you
20:43
know, we're we're which accounts for the fact that he had, you
20:47
know, the matches and everything, like, you know, that
20:48
he didn't play as many matches. There is Muhammad Ali scored
20:53
more points per start than him. Bokao soccer scored more points.
20:56
Cole Palmer, Cunha, KDB Ryan and Bembo Diallo, Bruno Fernandez.
21:01
All right, so make sure who would you take over at Holland
21:04
if you're drafting, because I would only take Sock over him.
21:07
I wouldn't take Bruno over him. I wouldn't take Cunya over him,
21:10
Mosala. I wouldn't take Cole Palm.
21:13
I would I would take Mosala over him.
21:15
OK, most Holland would you? I would.
21:17
I would take Cole Palmer. I would take Cole.
21:18
Palmer, You take Cole Palmer over Holland, Yeah.
21:21
Is that your Chelsea bars or that you being serious?
21:23
I think it's midfield. I think just Cole Palmer being
21:26
in a position where he's going to create more goals and assists
21:28
and just has more chances to score points that aren't goal
21:31
dependent. So I think his floor to ceiling
21:33
is going to be better, you know what I mean?
21:34
Well, I'm looking at it and yeah, Cole Palmer had what, 564
21:38
points? And then he had a down part of
21:40
his back end of the season. So I I saw, I see it.
21:45
But it's proven that forwards, for the most part, score more.
21:50
Score more points. Yeah, that's that's fair.
21:52
I mean, maybe, maybe not. Maybe if when push came to
21:54
shove, I think it'd be hard not to.
21:55
If Holland's sitting there, it'd be hard not to take.
21:58
Him and also thinking about the fact that Cole Palmer who was
22:00
drank third overall, he didn't play in the European in the
22:03
conference look championship. And he didn't play those?
22:06
Yeah. Yeah, in the group stage, the
22:08
first early on in the knockout stages, they were playing their
22:10
BC squad, whereas Holland was playing Europe as well.
22:13
Make sure you call. Palmer is obviously going to be
22:15
playing in the European matches as well.
22:17
And because he with their his body fatigue, whatever happened,
22:21
he didn't hold off throughout the year.
22:22
Holland is more better suited to hold on throughout the year
22:25
because of just the experience of him doing it for 3-4 years.
22:28
Yeah, but Holland's always had a little bit of injury issues.
22:30
That was a big issue at Dortmund and then obviously his first
22:33
year at City he was healthy the whole time.
22:35
But since then we've seen little niggles, so it makes me a little
22:38
nervous. Well, this third season was
22:39
probably the biggest one. The second season it was that
22:41
was little niggles. This season it was a big chunk
22:43
it. Was a big, big chunk, Yeah.
22:46
OK. Are there any?
22:47
OK, I guess the last question I have for forwards before we move
22:50
on to midfielders is Simenyo. Where do you see him going?
22:54
Just obviously right now I was subject to change.
22:55
I'll hold you to it. But is that is he, you know,
22:58
scored fifth overall for forwards and points.
23:02
Is that, you know, then what was he?
23:03
And then overall from scoring, from a scoring standpoint, he
23:05
was, what, top 10, ninth overall?
23:08
Where do you see him? Is that is that second round?
23:10
I mean, the second round's getting pretty crowded.
23:12
Second round's getting really crowded, but it all depends on
23:15
where he goes. We've seen it before where team
23:17
players from like. Mid table stays.
23:19
Let's say he stays in. One if he stays, we think.
23:22
In Iowa stays. Like late second because like he
23:27
was, he had that kind of a season.
23:28
The, the fear is that it's, it's, I mean, he was, he had a
23:31
good last season. He had a pretty good last season
23:33
too. I think he he was kind of
23:35
disrespected last year where he was going.
23:36
To what was the difference this season compared to the season
23:38
before? So I haven't pulled up.
23:40
So the year before he averaged 8.9 for 294 points, but he only
23:46
started 25 out of the 33 games. But the interesting thing to me
23:50
about Simeno is last year he scored eight goals and three
23:53
assists. This year he scored eleven goals
23:55
and five assists. So the contribution went up by 5
23:58
points, but he scored a lot more points.
24:00
So he's not really goal or assist dependent.
24:03
It's just can. He.
24:04
Can you repeat that season? So to me it's I wouldn't take
24:08
him in the first round to me. He's the first in the second
24:10
round, you wouldn't take him in. The second, no, he's to me, he's
24:13
the third round player. Yeah, OK, fair enough.
24:16
Moving on, let's talk midfielders #1 build fielder
24:20
overall Cole Palmer with 564.25 points.
24:25
I think it's, we talk about it a lot, but it's easy to forget
24:28
that how good of the first half of the season was for him.
24:31
Yeah, like how bad his second-half was.
24:33
And the fact that he still finished first is pretty
24:35
impressive. I think he had nineteen goal
24:37
contributions by the end of the summer, goals and assists, and
24:40
then he had six from this from January on.
24:43
Yeah, it's rough. That's rough.
24:45
Still a good season though. Still a good season of course #2
24:48
Bruno Fernandez five O 3.5 #3 Jared Bowen 438.75.
24:55
That's pretty big. So Cole and Bruno and then it's
24:58
a pretty big drop off to Jared Bowen.
25:00
That's like a 70 point drop off, 75 point drop off between second
25:05
and third. Number four Alex, it will be
25:07
400.5. I got another little bit of a
25:10
drop off, almost a 40 point drop off and then 5 as a 399.
25:15
So to me, what's interesting about the difference between
25:17
forwards and midfielders, when you look at the forwards top
25:20
three total points and points per game, they're the same
25:22
players. But when we look at midfielders,
25:25
it's only top 2. And then you look at Saka, who
25:27
came in 13 points per game, but obviously he was injured.
25:31
Diallo points per game, he averaged higher and then Bowen
25:34
was fifth. So I think if everyone healthy,
25:37
the top five is going to look a lot different.
25:40
And to me, I think we talked about if Man U gets Konya and
25:46
and one more, I don't know if Bruno's value goes up or goes
25:48
down to me, yeah. I've been thinking about this a
25:51
lot because then it's like if they get both of those guys,
25:54
it's and it might already be guaranteed.
25:56
Like we don't know because we've been seeing it, but Bruno's been
25:58
playing in the 6th a lot more and it's it's not the worst
26:01
thing ever. Like he can be that kind of like
26:02
that quarterback, you know that like deep, deep blind playmaker,
26:06
but he's just not as close to goal.
26:07
So he's just not going to get as many goals, goal assist
26:10
opportunities when he's not as close to goal, you know, he's
26:13
not crashing the box, he's not making those, he's not making as
26:16
many late runs because he has different responsibilities in
26:18
the team. Can we kind of know if that's
26:20
going to be his role next season?
26:22
I know he played a lot of in the six because he I don't feel he
26:24
really had a choice. Yeah, but but it all depends on
26:27
who comes in. But Bruno's a start, I don't
26:29
think where it doesn't matter where you put him in the
26:30
midfield. I I tell you, I think wherever
26:33
you put him, he's going to be really good.
26:34
It's just a matter of is he going to be top 4 good, or is he
26:37
going to be like top ten good? Yeah.
26:39
You know, yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point to you.
26:41
I mean, obviously sock up the injury puts that out.
26:44
I think he would have probably been up there with close to Cole
26:46
Palmer numbers. Great.
26:48
So and then just real quick on Bruno, when we look at the last
26:51
three years, this was his lowest year and he had shots on goal at
26:55
29. So team is not as offensive.
26:58
The forwards are not as good. But at the same time like his
27:02
assist numbers might go up. If you look at if they had a
27:04
better striker instead of like Xerxy and Holland, he might, he
27:06
might have had more, you know, more assists.
27:08
You know the two, the players with the most chances created
27:12
are in the Premier League. No Bruno Cole Palmer.
27:14
No Cole Palmer. Cole Palmer, Yeah.
27:16
Yep. Oops.
27:19
So, but I'm a little nervous about where he's gonna be
27:22
playing next year. Is he gonna be playing in the
27:23
wing back position? Is that his best position?
27:25
Are you really gonna draft a wing back in this, the end of
27:28
the second or the beginning of the the beginning of the second
27:31
like that to me doesn't feel great.
27:32
But yeah, but have you seen Wade doesn't that wingback role, he
27:35
beats players like he he he eats them up for dinner.
27:39
Now when he's on his day, he can beat any player on that, on that
27:42
right hand side. And then he creates too.
27:44
It's he just, he's he has to get better.
27:46
Am I saying he's going to get better?
27:47
I don't know. He's still young as a kid, but
27:50
13.06 points per start and he if he starts 36 plus games, that's
27:56
incredible. Yeah.
27:58
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong. It just makes me a little
28:00
nervous. I think the uncertainty of who
28:02
he's playing with and what his role is just makes me a little
28:04
nervous. But you're not wrong.
28:06
I I think his fantasy numbers looked a lot better with Amerin,
28:11
but then again, he didn't play a lot under 10.
28:13
Yeah, no. That's very true.
28:14
OK, Next question, Awobi, this is about the the highest that
28:19
Awobi's going to get. And I don't mean that in a bad
28:21
way. Bad.
28:22
Way. No, no, no, no.
28:23
Yeah, I think this is just like, well, where do you really go
28:26
from here with your him? Like what?
28:28
What else is there? So then like, I'm not drafting
28:30
him. I'm not thinking, oh, I'm going
28:33
to get him in the second round. I think, you know, but like if
28:36
he if he drops the 4th, I'd be pretty happy.
28:39
Yeah. I think he's not a sexy name.
28:41
It's not sexy at all. It's so unsexy.
28:44
Still a good, still a good pick in the maybe not even the
28:47
fourth, maybe the 5th if. He's still there.
28:50
I think it just really depends on how smart people in your are
28:53
in your league. It's just it's, I think in that
28:55
in that frame, that 4th, that 3rd, 4th, whatever area, people
28:59
are still hoping to get superstars that are going to win
29:01
the league and sometimes it's hard to settle for the guy
29:04
that's going to just do enough for you.
29:06
He's also probably going to go to the African Cup nation so.
29:09
Yes, that is very true. And that's something we should
29:11
be thinking about and that's something when I was thinking
29:14
about Sala, that's probably why I would take Sacco over Sala as
29:18
the one. I think.
29:19
I think that was the deciding factor for me, age, all these
29:22
other factors, but I think that AFCON is a big part of it.
29:26
And then I met you as a he's right there. 399 like their
29:29
second-half of the season was so much better.
29:31
If if they play like they did in the second-half of the season,
29:33
the whole season that that that number goes up.
29:35
I know Palace is a team played better but as a as a player
29:38
played better in the second-half because he was non existent that
29:41
First off if you had dropped him you were saying what the fuck is
29:44
going on you? We thought that he was missing
29:47
Elysee because Elysee is tearing up in in Munich right now.
29:50
But Eze in the second-half, he he came along.
29:52
Yeah, he figured totally. I guess the, the biggest concern
29:55
with Eze is if he's going to stay at Palace.
29:58
Yeah, if he goes somewhere, I think I, I just can't think of a
30:01
lot of places that where he goes that I'm happy about from a
30:04
fantasy standpoint, like Tottenham.
30:06
Maybe I'd be, I'd be happy because I think he'd get a lot
30:08
of playing time at Tottenham. He would.
30:10
But like, if he goes to City, I'm not, I'm just not happy
30:13
about him because of the same quest, the same concerns we've
30:15
had with a lot of these players. Yeah, you know, and then I don't
30:19
know, I mean, then there's also a chance he goes to Bayern
30:21
Munich and we never see him again.
30:23
Yeah, he just disappears. He just evaporates like smoke
30:27
from our lives. Yeah.
30:29
Yeah. So those are kind of the mid,
30:30
the top midfield guys that that we're going through now.
30:32
Let's talk defenders #1 ranked defender, one of my favorite
30:37
guys. So I didn't have any any league,
30:38
but I still love is Daniel Menez 457.5 points #2 in total points
30:44
Anthony Robinson 420.75 America #3 yes, America Trent Alexander
30:50
Arnold 389.5 #4 Nathan Collins 382.382 solid #5 Virgil Van Dyke
30:59
380. So kind of just a little bit
31:02
like the points per game shifts a little.
31:04
It's Moon as Trent Robinson, Tarkowski, Pedro Poro.
31:08
So just just kind of keeping that in mind too.
31:10
So there's, you know, on a points per game basis, those
31:13
were the top guys. I've got to say though, like out
31:17
of all of them, like trend didn't pay that much, but points
31:20
per game, like all those players besides maybe James Talkowski
31:24
for a while weren't getting clean sheet points.
31:26
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. They weren't getting clean sheet
31:29
points and that was something that I'd look at with defenders
31:32
because clean sheets is, is huge.
31:33
That's what, 6 points for a clean sheet?
31:36
I'm almost like it's so hard to predict clean sheets that I'm
31:39
almost as I was kind of, I used to think about that a lot too
31:41
ends up, but now I'm almost like I, I don't know who's going to
31:44
have a good defense this year. It's it's like sometimes it's
31:46
hard to predict things like that.
31:47
And sometimes you almost got to think about the opposite.
31:51
Like are they going to maybe you should like when you look at the
31:54
most consistent defenders over the last few years, it's been
31:56
attacking defenders. It's been Trent, it's been Karen
31:58
trip year. It's been guys like that that
32:01
are getting points elsewhere so that aren't dependent on clean
32:04
sheet points to get them, you know, where they want to be.
32:07
It's just crazy because out of all those I think was there, I
32:12
think it's Robinson was the only one not to score a goal.
32:16
Score a goal No Zero goals, 10 assists in the Premier League in
32:19
the prior. League double digit assists.
32:21
That's pretty good. I think the the most amazing
32:23
thing is Daniel Mooney is just what a season.
32:26
What an unbelievable season. Four goals and five assists from
32:28
defense. Robinson has never scored a goal
32:31
in the EPL. Oh shit, really?
32:33
Yeah, I know that. That's crazy.
32:36
So he does. I'm surprised he's not.
32:37
He doesn't have more numbers. Only four, four goals, 5
32:39
assists. I thought that I thought this
32:41
would be a little bit higher to be honest with you.
32:43
So. This is what I would say on
32:45
drafting defenders. So we talked about the draft,
32:46
what position you want to focus on.
32:48
We clearly saw forward is where all the highest strong points
32:52
are. When you look at the top five
32:53
defenders, only two of them will be ranked in top five
32:56
midfielders, surpass their points and only one of them
32:58
would be in the top five forwards.
33:00
Drafting early for defenders, I think you're reaching and then
33:03
throughout the year you could play the match ups on defenders
33:05
and you could see who actually has a good defense.
33:06
So you don't want to waste draft Kaplan the first four or five,
33:09
maybe even 6 rounds. At least for me, I wouldn't
33:13
unless I don't know, like there's like a stud available
33:17
and there's no one else on the board.
33:18
I completely agree with Tico and that's rare for me to do with
33:21
you. But yeah, defenders, I think you
33:24
are reaching your right. Is Daniel Moniz going to have
33:27
another season like this? Is Robertson going to have
33:28
another 10 assists next season? We don't know.
33:31
But like you said, just the the facts are in the numbers.
33:33
And I think if you go back in the last couple seasons, even
33:36
with the the one goal being not minus wherever it is, it helped
33:42
them with points, but it's they still didn't break into like
33:45
that top ten, top 20 like consistently all the defense.
33:48
So you're right, I think 6 rounds is as early as you should
33:50
go for a defender. So even if it is.
33:53
Fixed round, I don't know, no, absolutely not.
33:55
These guys are going to go these guys are going to go higher.
33:58
I think I mean, I I hear you guys.
34:00
I think you're right. And I think that's it's keeping
34:01
that in mind and even like like drafting Trent in the second lot
34:04
this year, like it kind of hurt like it, you know, there are
34:07
there are players that could have gotten, but what what it
34:09
gives you is it gives you positional advantage.
34:11
So if you think you can find a mid off waivers, you think you
34:14
can find a forward off waivers, but you have an elite, elite
34:17
defence like Enzo. How many games did you win
34:19
because of your defence this year?
34:20
Well, yeah, but none of those were like top the I've got
34:23
because I've got Robinson a few. But before I got Robinson, it
34:25
was it was like young Mario, who's not even top five.
34:32
Lucky. So Tarkovsky, who was ranked top
34:34
five in points per game, drafted in the seventh round.
34:38
Robinson, who was ranked second overall, drafted in the second
34:40
round. Guess where Minos was drafted?
34:44
Like 6 round. He was not drafted.
34:46
No. Yes he was.
34:47
Munez was drafted. I'm looking at our draft right
34:49
now. I know for a fact he was
34:51
drafted. I'm looking at the draft right
34:52
now. You're wrong, You're wrong.
34:53
You're missing him on the on the thing.
34:55
I'm literally doing control F and typing Munoz.
34:58
I know for factors he's drafted. Sergey said he drafted him.
35:01
Oh yeah, six round. My bad.
35:04
I'll take Dale on that. That's all right, I guess.
35:07
Still six round. Yeah.
35:08
So if he draft also Sergey didn't draft him, it was Obi
35:13
Wan. Kobe drafted him.
35:14
Yes, Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, but no, I, I hear what you're
35:17
saying. I just, I mean, but OK, so sixth
35:21
round is I, I think it's like, maybe it's not second round.
35:24
Yeah, it's not second. Maybe it's not.
35:25
Maybe it's third round, maybe it's fourth round.
35:27
But I hear what you're saying for position, but I feel like
35:31
that's a mistake that some of us have made before, not maybe not
35:34
in the earlier rounds, but the later rounds where we're trying
35:36
to fill the positions to make sure we have a, a full first
35:40
team instead of having more depth.
35:41
And I think what Tico's saying is that, and I think it's the
35:45
same, not it's not entirely the same for goals as goal games.
35:47
I don't think you have to draft unless you get like a top five
35:50
goalkeeper and you get them late.
35:52
You don't have to draft a defender so early because you
35:55
could, like you just said, matchups like who are they
35:57
playing against? Are they playing against Leeds
35:59
or freaking Sunderland or Burnley and they're going to get
36:02
a clean sheet so. I hear you guys.
36:04
I hear you guys. I'm going to.
36:05
I'm going to give you guys a little preview of my draft
36:08
strategy. I'm not going to look at
36:10
positions. If I have 3 forwards and I see
36:12
another forward that's on there, I'll draft another forward and
36:14
then I'll use one of those to trade for a defender after a
36:17
month into the season where I know who's performing well.
36:19
So I know you need to fill the positions, but doesn't
36:22
necessarily mean you have to pass up on a better player,
36:25
fantasy player, to just draft a defender for the sake of having
36:28
a defender. You're welcome.
36:30
That's all take on that. Suck it.
36:33
I I think that's, that's smart. I think that works.
36:35
I think, yeah. I mean, I think the one thing,
36:39
the one thing I will say is that the and I I'm just repeating
36:42
myself, but just that when you're looking at like the we
36:44
have a new crop of defenders coming up because Trippier's not
36:48
there anymore, really like he's not at the level Trent's gone.
36:51
Like those are the guys were kind of the the elite elite.
36:54
And the question is, is, is Muniz and Robinson are the and
36:58
then potentially from Pong, are they going to become and
37:01
potentially Kirk, as you know, maybe maybe not.
37:03
Like could we see them reach elite levels?
37:07
I don't, I don't know. And that question is probably
37:09
not. But then it's like, is it still
37:11
worth it having just the best player in a position?
37:15
So the the players that are we look at that might reach those
37:19
numbers be like elite defenders, like over 12 points.
37:23
I would take Guardiol and someone else has been a big
37:26
disappointment. Cali Fury because he was
37:28
injured. But whenever he played, he he
37:30
put up goals, assists and he would get clean sheets as well.
37:33
So those are, that's California's the one that I
37:35
would gamble. On so you're not looking at the
37:38
guys that have done well last year, you're looking at guys
37:40
that maybe underperformed quote UN quote a little bit that you
37:43
think then could could reach that level.
37:44
From this list, the only person that I Munoz is the only one
37:49
that I like. You know what?
37:50
I'm going to draft them. That I think.
37:53
I think initially I thought I mean Muniz finished what, 7th
37:57
overall in points? Total points?
38:00
I think so, yeah. He was top.
38:01
Something like that. Yeah, he was.
38:03
I mean, I'm just saying like, you can't say that.
38:05
That's not pretty damn good. But you can also to score four
38:10
goals. I I think 4 is OK.
38:13
I think that's for a wingback, someone who's going to be
38:15
getting up and down, the way that he gets up and down the
38:17
field. I feel like 4 is like, I'm not
38:19
saying yeah, I think it's, I don't think it's like, I don't
38:21
think it was like Ollie Watkins what last year where you felt
38:24
like he was so over performing. I'd be curious to see what his
38:26
like XG was. Was he over performing his XG?
38:29
Well, the first year, last year when he played for Chris Palace,
38:31
it was his first year, he only played 16 games, zero goals, 4
38:34
assists and he averaged 11.3. So that's two years in an hour
38:38
he's been putting up the value. I think that's, I think Minos
38:41
will be like the new Trent trip here, but obviously not at the
38:45
level they were doing it. Yes, yes, yeah, I mean, it's
38:50
worth it's that's just it'll be interesting.
38:53
I I don't think he'll be there in the 4th.
38:56
No, no, no, the player might be interesting depending on if they
38:59
leave or not. If Poro leaves Tottenham, Jed
39:02
Spence. Yeah, like later rounds.
39:04
Yeah, not not anything rally, but he could be a a diamond in
39:08
the rough. Do you think Nathan Collins will
39:10
just kind of fade into who knows why he just.
39:13
Two years of. He was good.
39:15
He's been two years. Yes, good years.
39:17
Like what was he last year? Teco, can you have a look
39:19
please? Because I remember when I was
39:21
talking about Nathan Collins last year.
39:22
He finished seventeen this year and last year he averaged 7.2
39:26
points per game. So.
39:30
He must have started, like every game then, Yeah, to finish in
39:33
the top, Yeah. So defenders, it's interesting.
39:36
I think it'll be interesting to see where they go.
39:38
I think losing Trent Trippier fading has just putting it.
39:43
It's putting interesting thing in.
39:45
I've said it a few times, but I think this this draft is going
39:47
to be pretty nasty. We've got a thing of some of
39:50
these, like livermento too is going to be a big one I feel
39:52
next season for. It's going to be bigger.
39:53
Yeah. Yeah.
39:54
Lewis Hall. Lewis Hall, Miles Lewis Skelly.
39:57
Does he get changed? Fuck off.
40:02
Does does does Lewis Kelly get defined as a defender?
40:06
Maybe. What about Reese James?
40:08
If he's fit, that's a big if, brother.
40:11
That is a big if. He's he played, he played more
40:14
games this season than he has the last two combined, I think.
40:16
That's not saying much. Or maybe not exactly.
40:18
He played 19 in. The Premier League, but but I
40:21
think in overall, overall, yeah. Can we even after we go through
40:25
goalkeepers? Just talk goalkeepers real
40:27
quickly. Fluck in a 380.5 Pickford 349
40:31
Sells 331.5 Raya three O 5.25 Sanchez three O 2.
40:37
When was the first keeper drafted in early?
40:39
It was probably too early I think it was.
40:41
I think no matter what Keeper was.
40:43
On no Allison, it was Allison in the eighth round and on the 5th
40:47
pick, then on Nana, then I picked them then.
40:49
Oh, wait, no, I'm gonna. Look at them.
40:51
It was on Nana 8-8, Allison 9-8. And look at the wrong leak.
40:55
And RYA 11 Pickford 11. So I think the biggest thing
40:59
with them is you you're going to hold.
41:00
But I, I think the one take away for me is when you look at these
41:04
keepers, Flecken Pickford and like sells and then Sanchez,
41:11
none of those were like none of those are Allison or Onona.
41:15
None of those are Ederson. It's like that that the elite
41:18
elite teams, you know, or like you know, the elite elite
41:21
keepers are don't necessarily like translate in for fantasy.
41:24
Well, mostly because elite keepers aren't getting much
41:28
better teams, so they don't not a lot of saves.
41:32
But like in I don't know if you guys saw on his way out by
41:35
Levers Leverkusen. Oh really?
41:37
I didn't see that. Emilio Martinez is on his way
41:40
out, too. He's on his way out.
41:42
So I think the only, and then Nick Pope is the one who's been
41:45
consistent for the last 3-4 years, who obviously got hurt
41:49
this year. Him, Pickford and RYA the last
41:54
year and a half have been pretty consistent.
41:55
I think Pickford will be back up there again next year the way
41:58
Moise is playing. Yeah, it'll be interesting.
42:01
I think not sells. We'll see what happens there
42:02
that I think that might be a bit of a flash in the pan Yeah and I
42:05
think yeah, I think just keeper doesn't matter that much draft
42:09
draft it late. I I think Flecken when I drafted
42:11
I picked him up and like the I don't think I drafted A keeper.
42:14
I think my strategy is to not draft a keeper.
42:17
Have you guys I did that last year right.
42:20
Appreciate that you. Did that last year.
42:22
Yeah, I did. I drafted a keeper in the last
42:24
round. I drafted at her centre 16th
42:26
round. But I think in our other league,
42:28
in our fantasy Bros, I don't think I drafted A keeper.
42:31
Yeah, I didn't draft a keeper in fantasy Bros because for that
42:34
reason, I think that you can just there's enough talent out
42:36
there you can kind of assess as you get tighter to the season.
42:39
But if you really want, if you want a guy, also get him late.
42:42
Don't. Don't reach, you know.
42:45
I think there's only maybe 3 or 4 keepers that you just put them
42:49
in the starting lineup. You don't worry about matchups.
42:51
I would say Raya Pope, someone else maybe, I don't know, but
42:55
those are like the three, two people.
42:57
So like fucking Aaron Ramsdale averaged 8.1 points per game.
43:02
Yeah, solid. All right, Anzo, you got to go.
43:04
I got. To go on live 13 minutes.
43:07
Oh, thirteen. Yeah, that's fine.
43:08
I think the last thing we wanted to chat is maybe some of these
43:10
guys, our first year in the EPL guys and let's let's I'm going
43:13
to go through these and tell me if you if you think they're
43:16
going to get better. OK, I think that might be yes
43:18
for all of them, but who knows? First year in the EPL.
43:20
Jordan Strand, Larson Wolves forward scored 300 and 300.8
43:25
points 8.6 points points per game.
43:28
Do you think he gets better or worse?
43:31
No Cunya to help him out. No Cunya.
43:33
I think pretty similar do. You think it'll be pretty
43:36
similar? Yeah, yeah. 238.75 points. 9.78
43:41
points per game. More game time means he gets
43:43
better. It's if he plays, he's better,
43:46
if he doesn't then. Yeah, I think there was a period
43:49
where he was playing every game for a while there.
43:51
He. Started off starting, yeah.
43:52
And he looks so good. Yeah, and then for a lot of the
43:54
season he was starting, but then all of a sudden, Pep, just like
43:57
the last like month and a half of the season, Pep decided he
43:59
was done with. I don't want to play with you
44:01
anymore. Be gone in a fucking tantrum.
44:04
Minta 274 points at 8.6 points per game.
44:09
He looks so good. I love watching.
44:12
I like watching him and he's a fucking old school bowler.
44:15
Just runs at defenders, doesn't give a fuck.
44:18
I just, I think it's the same issue as Savio's playing time,
44:21
huh? And it's like.
44:23
So many role players. Yeah, it's like there's a
44:26
bespoke formation for every team they play against.
44:29
I think he gets better. What'd you say?
44:31
I think he gets better. You think he gets better?
44:33
Yeah. Well, Evan Nielsen, 267.25
44:36
points, 8.28.62 points per game. He suffered pretty bad injury
44:40
midway through the season and missed two to three months.
44:43
Do you guys think he gets better?
44:45
I mean is he going to create 4 penalties again?
44:47
Yeah, that's the thing. Is he going to do that?
44:49
I don't know. I I think he's going to be a
44:52
solid but not spectacular player in his Premier League career, I
44:56
think, but I think it's also very team dependent.
44:58
Like I think if Areola stays at Bournemouth, I'll, I'll draft
45:02
him, I'll like him, I'll be excited about him.
45:04
If Ariel goes, I don't know. I don't know, because I feel
45:07
like he's such a scrappy like score.
45:09
You know, he he does certain things really well, but he does
45:12
other things. I just don't think he's that
45:14
great. So it's at other things.
45:16
So I kind of feel like it's really dependent on the
45:18
situation. All right, fair.
45:19
Yeah. Mazrawi 259.3 points, 7 points
45:23
per game. Forgot about man.
45:25
You know better. Has to do better.
45:28
Has to do better I think. I think so.
45:32
Amarin gets like 10 games fired and no magic comes in and he has
45:36
a fucking outstanding something like that.
45:38
Was Maserati brought in to be a wingback or a center back?
45:41
He's been playing a lot of center back for he Was.
45:43
Brought into being fucking a right back, but that was on the
45:47
10 hog so. I don't know about that one.
45:49
That one question marks for me, Mohamed El Canews from
45:53
Leicester, 213.86 point, 7 points per game.
45:57
He had a good end of the season, so people remember that, but he
45:59
was pretty. There's some really dark.
46:00
Periods he plays, I think he's yeah.
46:03
Like he knows that he's even stays in.
46:04
The he got the motive, so yeah. But he someone might pick him
46:07
up. We're not likely.
46:08
OK, Mikael Marino, 215.25 points, 7.69 points per game.
46:13
The whole the whole striker experiment was interesting.
46:15
Yeah, but I think that's why his points went up, because he
46:17
scored a few goals. I would think he's.
46:19
I think people are going to reach on him.
46:20
He's going to be disappointment next year.
46:22
Yeah, disappointment. No one's going to spend 55 on
46:24
him so. No one spent 50. 5 How much do
46:26
you spend on him? Spent 35 on.
46:28
That's still too. Much.
46:29
It's 29. Too much, but at the time he had
46:33
two collarbones. He had boldest collarbones
46:36
intact. When he spent the money on him
46:37
and. Then a day later, he no longer
46:39
had boldest collarbones intact #8 Delict 197.25 at 6.8 points
46:45
per game. I don't think he plays a lot.
46:46
I. Don't think he plays a lot
46:47
either. What is up with him?
46:48
He was like the most promising centre back of his.
46:51
Yeah, well, then he went to Juventus and I mean, yeah, but
46:55
then. Juventus.
46:56
Crashed out? Yeah.
46:57
Crushed out. Why would you go to Juventus to
47:00
play behind Bonucci and cheerleading like?
47:02
Maybe they'll learn from them. I don't.
47:04
Think how much? They've been pressed.
47:06
He's regressed. Yeah, OK.
47:08
Marmouche 168.5 at 10.5 points per game down.
47:12
I think he gets better. Better, Yeah.
47:14
Do you think he plays enough? To be, I think he plays.
47:17
So do you think Pep's going to totally change his system and
47:19
have this? Is Marmouche coming off to the
47:21
left? Do you think he's going to play
47:22
almost like 2 strikers? He's going to old school.
47:24
No, look, he's going to do. Pep's going to go inverted back,
47:28
wing backs where they play center back and the center backs
47:30
move up the middle. That's what he's going to do.
47:33
That's that's a bold move. The reason I think Marmich is
47:36
going to get better because Doku and Savio, they just play on the
47:39
wings whereas Marmich has played up top #10 on the wing.
47:42
So I think Marmich is going to be playing a lot more and he
47:45
scored goals whereas Savio and Doku don't score as.
47:48
As many goals, they don't score as many goals.
47:50
Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. I think it's fair to assume
47:53
that. I was pretty impressed with how
47:55
quickly he adjusted the Premier League.
47:56
Right away, yeah. That's that's hard to do, Yeah,
47:58
but takes players a lot of time usually.
48:01
OK, then I'm going to do a nada, a Seville midfielder.
48:05
He was really good at interior when he was there, but.
48:08
Being the same. Yeah, I.
48:10
Think a year without Champions League will help him be a little
48:13
bit of a better player. You guys no interest.
48:16
No interest. That's just me though.
48:18
Maybe take off? He was such a he.
48:21
Had a great start. Yeah, yeah, I mean, he, I
48:24
thought he was going to be like a goal scoring midfielder for a
48:26
minute, just like a lot of like those like set pieces and stuff
48:29
like that because that's what he did at the beginning of the
48:30
season and it just didn't really happen after that.
48:32
That's what it is. All right, that's all we got.
48:34
Anything else you guys want to chat about?
48:36
Of course, the jersey that I'm wearing is Luca Moldridge.
48:38
Oh, that was, that was. I wasn't crying.
48:41
You're like, this is the most emotional I've ever gotten.
48:44
I did not expect them to give him the guard of honor and then
48:46
to see Tony Cruz that then give him a hug.
48:49
Goosebumps. Oh man, it's nice man.
48:52
Well, one of the best, one of the best of all time.
48:54
One of the best of all time. Tottenham legend, Real Midget
48:57
legend it. Was great Tottenham Croatia,
49:00
amazing Croatia legend. Croatia legend ended the streak
49:04
of Messi and CR7 winning the battle on Dior's.
49:06
So he's like just a football legend then?
49:08
True he is. Beloved by everyone, I feel like
49:11
he's no haters. He really hates.
49:14
Maurino brought him the first year, Spain said.
49:16
He's the worst signing of of the year not in Real Madrid of all
49:20
of La Liga. He got the worst signing because
49:22
at the time they had Ozil, Gaka, Di Maria, he they got rid of
49:25
everyone 6 Champions League, 6 fucking Champions League.
49:30
It's it's crazy. Captain Grace, amazing player
49:33
do. You think he he continues to
49:34
play or is he hanging up his boots?
49:36
No, no, he's, I think he's done so.
49:38
Initially, from what I read is Alonzo wanted him to stay.
49:42
He wanted to stay. He was even willing to take a
49:44
less money. But I I think it's you come at
49:47
an age where you need to move on from like the older generation
49:49
because just the pressure from the media and everyone else to
49:51
play him if something goes doesn't go well.
49:54
So I've read rumors where MLS including Inter Miami and I also
49:59
read that he might Saudi has interest.
50:01
But from what I read is he doesn't want to move his family.
50:03
Saudi no one complaining him has two kids.
50:06
So MLS looks more likely. Even the players that came like
50:10
Kovacic came to support him. Obviously the Croatian ties,
50:13
former real major player, Obviously everyone posted, a lot
50:17
of people came. It was just I the outside the
50:21
boot pass. Oh my God.
50:22
All right, we're good. We're done.
50:23
You done your little rant. Let's close up, Keith.
50:26
This has been episode 90 of Draft Offsides.
50:29
My name is Keith. I'm with two good Enzo.
50:30
Follow us at Draft Offsides. We are going to be doing some
50:34
content throughout the offseason and then we'll really ramp it up
50:36
coming into to draft season next year.
50:39
But we'll try and we'll try and stick around and do some stuff
50:42
now and again. Sounds like fun.
50:44
And also, if we say something about about messy doesn't mean
50:46
you should tell us we should die.