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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, hey everybody, if you haven't heard yet, I'm engaged
- 0:03Speaker 1: and I'm getting married very very soon, and we want
- 0:06Speaker 1: to celebrate with all of you. Yes to almost in
- 0:08Speaker 1: his family has been incredible to me and Ashley over
- 0:12Speaker 1: the last few years. And now we're welcoming Jessica into
- 0:15Speaker 1: the party. And so this we're gonna do on July
- 0:18Speaker 1: from five to six pm Pacific. We're gonna have a
- 0:22Speaker 1: live engagement party for Jessica and myself. Tickets are in
- 0:27Speaker 1: sale now at looked live dot com. Here's the deal.
- 0:30Speaker 1: We're getting married, we want to celebrate, and we're gonna
- 0:33Speaker 1: have an engagement party in Napa with a few of
- 0:35Speaker 1: our close friends, Ashley, Jared, Nick, Dean Kalin Wells. We're
- 0:41Speaker 1: gonna toast to jess and I celebrate love, celebrate life.
- 0:46Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great time. We love to have
- 0:48Speaker 1: you join us for the almost Famous Me and jess
- 0:51Speaker 1: engagement party benefiting Humanity and Hope United, one of my
- 0:56Speaker 1: most personal nonprofits and I'm a part of the board
- 0:59Speaker 1: of and so this is a huge deal to me.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So make sure you get a looped live dot com
- 1:04Speaker 1: that's l O O p E D l I V
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- 1:17Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
- 1:20Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Hi, guys, we have a very
- 1:25Speaker 1: special episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. You know why
- 1:28Speaker 1: because Nick Carter is on. Holy crap, guys, I was
- 1:33Speaker 1: just casually looking at my rundown, um, you know, a
- 1:37Speaker 1: couple of hours ago and seeing who was on the podcast,
- 1:41Speaker 1: I thought it was Dianna Pappas is week. I'm okay,
- 1:44Speaker 1: I wonder if we have anyone else? And then Nick Carter,
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm like, are you guys kidding me? What if I
- 1:50Speaker 1: didn't look at the rundown until like five minutes beforehand,
- 1:54Speaker 1: then I would have showed up looking like I always do,
- 1:56Speaker 1: which today I'm gonna be honest, don't look that much different.
- 1:59Speaker 1: But I did put eyeliner and mascara on for neck.
- 2:02Speaker 1: It's a big week. Deanna Pappas is here and Nick Carter,
- 2:05Speaker 1: so we have two massive I guess we have to
- 2:09Speaker 1: we should refer to as Dianna Peppis Staglionio because you
- 2:14Speaker 1: know that's the real name. Now, it's a huge week,
- 2:17Speaker 1: two incredible guests, action packed. We're all for it. So
- 2:20Speaker 1: let's dive in with Deanna. Now, okay, Deanna, what's going on?
- 2:27Speaker 1: How is life? Oh, we're doing really well. All the
- 2:29Speaker 1: kids are out for summer, and just like any good mom,
- 2:32Speaker 1: I've got them propped up on an iPad at the moment.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I'm really really succeeding at this whole parenthood thing. Kids
- 2:41Speaker 1: the iPads these days, Like, man, they like that way
- 2:45Speaker 1: more than TV. Huh. Yeah, my children we have two
- 2:48Speaker 1: iPads three in the house, and they fight over both
- 2:51Speaker 1: iPads when we have three other fifty televisions in the
- 2:54Speaker 1: home that they could possibly watch, and they'll literally beat
- 2:56Speaker 1: each other down for an iPad. I feel like iPads
- 2:59Speaker 1: are career did four kids these days, because like, I
- 3:02Speaker 1: never seen an adult on an iPad. I have one,
- 3:04Speaker 1: but I haven't taken mine out for years. What about you, guys?
- 3:07Speaker 1: I use my iPad a day Oho. Okay, never mind.
- 3:12Speaker 1: I traveled so much for work that I take mine
- 3:15Speaker 1: with me and I do all of my work on it.
- 3:16Speaker 1: But that's also where I watched my TV is on
- 3:18Speaker 1: my iPad. Okay, So I'm in the I'm in the
- 3:21Speaker 1: minority here, that's okay. Daniel. Last time we talked to
- 3:26Speaker 1: you was during Claire season. We're talking about how great
- 3:29Speaker 1: she was going to be and all that, and then
- 3:30Speaker 1: then you know, wow, it's been like quite a year
- 3:33Speaker 1: for hersh get the break up with Dale and then
- 3:36Speaker 1: the back together with Dale. Um, do you have any
- 3:39Speaker 1: inside knowledge as to like how they're today. I think
- 3:44Speaker 1: they're doing great. Um. I actually haven't caught up with
- 3:46Speaker 1: Claire in a couple of months. We chatted just a
- 3:48Speaker 1: bit when they broke up, you know, just um for
- 3:52Speaker 1: a long time actually just they were just going both
- 3:54Speaker 1: going through some things. So I, um, we've only just
- 3:57Speaker 1: been deeming a little bit because they both look so
- 3:59Speaker 1: happy social media. So I'm just glad to see that.
- 4:01Speaker 1: I'm just glad to see them because I do really
- 4:03Speaker 1: think they're meant to be together. So I'm just glad
- 4:06Speaker 1: to see them processing and working through some things and
- 4:09Speaker 1: they look like they're really happy. They do. We're celebrating
- 4:12Speaker 1: that over here. It's what a bumpy roller coaster of
- 4:16Speaker 1: a road, but it's probably how it had to happen, right,
- 4:18Speaker 1: I Mean I would imagine just the way that all
- 4:20Speaker 1: played out, the expectations, all the stuff going on, so
- 4:24Speaker 1: you kind of had to take a break, and then
- 4:26Speaker 1: if it was meant to be, you're gonna get back together.
- 4:28Speaker 1: You're gonna be super happy like they seem to be,
- 4:30Speaker 1: and then things are gonna Also we're having a conversation
- 4:33Speaker 1: and all three of us have been on this show, Like, yeah,
- 4:36Speaker 1: think of like the roller coaster of emotions that it
- 4:39Speaker 1: puts you in and and really you choose to be
- 4:42Speaker 1: with someone that you barely know, you know what I'm saying,
- 4:45Speaker 1: Like it puts the cart before the horse. You fall
- 4:47Speaker 1: in love with someone that you don't know, and in
- 4:49Speaker 1: a natural progression of a relationship, you date someone and
- 4:52Speaker 1: you get to know them, and you make sure that
- 4:54Speaker 1: you're like minded and you have the same course of
- 4:55Speaker 1: values before you progress into like marriage and love and
- 4:58Speaker 1: all the other things. And I feel the Bachelor Bachelorette
- 5:01Speaker 1: makes you do it fast awkwards. Really, you know, like
- 5:04Speaker 1: you you meet someone, there's that infatuation, you fall in
- 5:07Speaker 1: love because you have a few weeks to do so,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and then the show stops and the cameras go down
- 5:12Speaker 1: and you're stuck alone in the room a person that
- 5:13Speaker 1: you you think you love, but you have no clue
- 5:16Speaker 1: who they are. Your spat on that is spot on,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and I mean so it makes sense on how this
- 5:24Speaker 1: played out, and we're happy for him over here and
- 5:25Speaker 1: we've been celebrating and falling the story. It seems like
- 5:27Speaker 1: they're doing well now. Uh for you you just mentioned, uh,
- 5:32Speaker 1: you know, your your mother, your wife. Uh, what is
- 5:36Speaker 1: new in your world? What's going on that we can
- 5:39Speaker 1: catch up with in your life? Uh? We sold our
- 5:43Speaker 1: house and we bought a new house. I know, we
- 5:45Speaker 1: were just chatting about this before we started recording. So
- 5:48Speaker 1: we are just like knee deep and like couraging things
- 5:50Speaker 1: and trying to pack. And there's a bit of a
- 5:52Speaker 1: transition period where it's like we're turning into teenagers again
- 5:56Speaker 1: because we can't move into our new home for another
- 5:58Speaker 1: couple of months, so we're moving in with mom and dad.
- 6:03Speaker 1: That's so fun. I like, I don't think that that's
- 6:07Speaker 1: I think that's super fun. But that's only who parents.
- 6:10Speaker 1: That's that's a big question. Steven's mom and dad, who
- 6:12Speaker 1: I adore. I like love them. I mean, if God
- 6:15Speaker 1: is here, like Lynn is here, I mean she's a
- 6:17Speaker 1: saint pretty much. And they're just they're so great. They're
- 6:19Speaker 1: so great to be around and They actually live like
- 6:22Speaker 1: a mile from us currently, so we see them all
- 6:25Speaker 1: the time and they're really really helpful and they're really
- 6:27Speaker 1: good with boundaries, which is also great. But I think
- 6:30Speaker 1: it will be a really fun time, especially summer. They
- 6:33Speaker 1: just built a whole, like really beautiful pool in their backyards,
- 6:36Speaker 1: and the kids and I are over there every single
- 6:38Speaker 1: day anyway, swimming. But like I think for my children
- 6:42Speaker 1: in particular, this will be like a summer they'll never forget,
- 6:44Speaker 1: like they will have spent it at Memi and Poppy's house,
- 6:47Speaker 1: you know, pounding hot dogs and ice cream and swimming
- 6:49Speaker 1: in the pool every day, you know. So we're actually
- 6:51Speaker 1: really excited. It just kind of sucks to be in
- 6:52Speaker 1: this transition phase where we're not going to have all
- 6:56Speaker 1: of our things. You know, we have so many things.
- 6:58Speaker 1: I have been getting so much. It's amazing how much
- 7:01Speaker 1: you accumulate over time and with two children. But yeah,
- 7:05Speaker 1: I think my hardest decision of the week is trying
- 7:07Speaker 1: to decide what clothes I'm taking to medium Poppies and
- 7:09Speaker 1: what stay. And I don't know, it's gonna be really
- 7:13Speaker 1: it's gonna be really nice for you because you're gonna
- 7:15Speaker 1: have built in babysitters, I know, except they're they're pretty like,
- 7:19Speaker 1: we're not going to be your guilt in baby, really,
- 7:23Speaker 1: I know, which is fine, Which is fine. We have
- 7:25Speaker 1: a great group of babysitters that it will be nice
- 7:28Speaker 1: because on the nights that they are home and like
- 7:29Speaker 1: going to bed, they don't mind if we pop out
- 7:31Speaker 1: for dinner or drinks or movies or whatever else that is.
- 7:34Speaker 1: So that is really nice. And we'll be saving on rent,
- 7:38Speaker 1: So that's a lot. That's a big deal. Now. I
- 7:41Speaker 1: did it as a kid. I still remember when we
- 7:42Speaker 1: moved in with the grandparents and it is a special time,
- 7:46Speaker 1: like it feels like a slumber party every night. You know,
- 7:50Speaker 1: Like maybe it's just unique cause I was an only child,
- 7:52Speaker 1: but being at their house for the few months that
- 7:54Speaker 1: we are felt like a memory. I'll never forget. So
- 7:57Speaker 1: pump for your kids, Pump for the two of you.
- 8:00Speaker 1: You're moving now, how has the packing and purging gone?
- 8:05Speaker 1: Is your relationship still intact? Because I know that's not
- 8:08Speaker 1: I think what is it like below finances like moving
- 8:12Speaker 1: or something. The top top two things the hardest things
- 8:16Speaker 1: that you'll ever do in a relationship or a marriage
- 8:19Speaker 1: are moving, buying, a home buying or selling a home really,
- 8:23Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, like that was painful for me
- 8:26Speaker 1: because I genuinely love our home where we currently live.
- 8:29Speaker 1: I have loved this house. We have a massive backyard
- 8:32Speaker 1: and for like l a, that's just you can't put
- 8:34Speaker 1: money on that, and we've made some really wonderful memories.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I actually didn't want to sell our home. It was
- 8:39Speaker 1: Stephen who kept pushing me to do so. And the
- 8:41Speaker 1: new home that we bought was a lot more expensive
- 8:43Speaker 1: than what we currently have. So I'm Stephen is like
- 8:46Speaker 1: the dreamer and I'm the person who processes all the things,
- 8:49Speaker 1: and I'm like looking at numbers and I'm like, I
- 8:51Speaker 1: can't do this. So I tried to go out to
- 8:53Speaker 1: dinner with some friends the other night. Steven's like, I'm
- 8:56Speaker 1: just gonna pack and I was like, don't touch a
- 8:58Speaker 1: single thing, pack anything. And he was like, well, what
- 9:02Speaker 1: am I allowed to do? And I said, you can
- 9:03Speaker 1: go into your office and you can pack your office
- 9:06Speaker 1: and that's it. Like I'll do everything else. So yeah,
- 9:09Speaker 1: I feel you. I think there's something about decorating and packing.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I just like I'm such a control freak about it.
- 9:16Speaker 1: When we were packing up our apartment in l A.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Jared was like throwing everything in a box, like Rando
- 9:21Speaker 1: boxes from different films, and I'm like, no, that's when
- 9:24Speaker 1: we move in. It's gonna be so chaotic because you're
- 9:29Speaker 1: not gonna know where anything is. And I was perfectly
- 9:31Speaker 1: labeling everything. And then even when we moved into the
- 9:34Speaker 1: new apartment, he was like putting boxing moving in boxes
- 9:39Speaker 1: into rooms that they weren't supposed to go into. I
- 9:41Speaker 1: was like that, we're just gonna need to move the
- 9:43Speaker 1: moving stuff kitchen exactly. I posted a picture to my
- 9:48Speaker 1: stories yesterday because I started labeling all the boxes and
- 9:51Speaker 1: I caught myself as I was like writing each individual
- 9:53Speaker 1: item on the box, and I was like, I'm neurotic.
- 9:56Speaker 1: That's what kitchen in. Like seven places on this in
- 10:00Speaker 1: box and it has everything listed on it. And if
- 10:02Speaker 1: it's glass, I've got careful and big bold letters, Like
- 10:04Speaker 1: I'm making this more complicated. I think that it really
- 10:07Speaker 1: needs to be, but all the same way. I think also,
- 10:09Speaker 1: because our stuff is going to be in storage for
- 10:10Speaker 1: a period of time, I wanted it to be very
- 10:13Speaker 1: clear what goes where when it picks into the new house.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Then mentally you feel disorganized even when you're not with
- 10:20Speaker 1: the stuff, because you're like in the storage unit, it's disorganized,
- 10:23Speaker 1: So therefore my life is still mess Yeah. Or I
- 10:26Speaker 1: was like, what if I have to pop into the
- 10:27Speaker 1: storage unit and try to find something. I want to
- 10:29Speaker 1: be able to clearly find that box where I know
- 10:31Speaker 1: there's going to be something that I need. Yeah, just
- 10:33Speaker 1: don't lose diapets, their kids, best friend right now, I'm
- 10:36Speaker 1: telling you. Then when no one's going anywhere without the iPads, well, uh,
- 10:41Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a lot going on in your life.
- 10:43Speaker 1: We're super pumped for you. Thank you for joining us
- 10:45Speaker 1: twice this year to talk about everything bachelor and Bachelor
- 10:48Speaker 1: and where have you back? Because we're doing this cool thing. Um,
- 10:52Speaker 1: we're past bachelorettes are coming on to break down an
- 10:55Speaker 1: episode and just also, um, kind of honor you and say, hey,
- 10:59Speaker 1: at point in your life, you know what, I was
- 11:02Speaker 1: really cool. You're on this show and you're still cool
- 11:05Speaker 1: and you're moving and your mother, But did you watch
- 11:08Speaker 1: this week's episode before we begin here breaking it down?
- 11:11Speaker 1: Did you watch this week's episode? I did. I was
- 11:13Speaker 1: crash coursing while I was packing. Okay, perfect, So you're
- 11:16Speaker 1: ready to break it down with us, and we're going
- 11:18Speaker 1: to write after this quick break, why in the world
- 11:32Speaker 1: let's start out with the obvious. The first topic of
- 11:34Speaker 1: conversation in this episode just not tasteful for me. I
- 11:38Speaker 1: don't know, like I can have fun with like sexual
- 11:41Speaker 1: humor sometimes, but like telling the guys that they can't
- 11:45Speaker 1: you know, It's just it was very weird. It was
- 11:50Speaker 1: very staged way do for the purpose of this part
- 11:54Speaker 1: that they can't wacky do for I also like find
- 12:00Speaker 1: and call I am old fashioned. I'm so fine saying that,
- 12:03Speaker 1: and so am I and we all know this, so
- 12:07Speaker 1: I think the three of us get each other pretty much.
- 12:09Speaker 1: There is a piece of this where I'm like, let's
- 12:11Speaker 1: just leave a few things to the imagination. Like I
- 12:15Speaker 1: am married, I'm a rob woman, I have sex with
- 12:18Speaker 1: my husband, but I don't need the entire world to
- 12:20Speaker 1: know that and the details of it, and when it
- 12:23Speaker 1: is happening, like there's just a piece of me that's
- 12:24Speaker 1: like it's it's like the show is stretching here, like
- 12:28Speaker 1: they're really pulling for bits, and I don't like that
- 12:32Speaker 1: part of the show. I missed the genuine aspects of
- 12:35Speaker 1: the show. And maybe it was because it was COVID
- 12:37Speaker 1: and they were stuck in some resort and didn't have
- 12:39Speaker 1: anything else to do, so they thought, let's put them
- 12:41Speaker 1: in a wedding dress in Britain. There's a wedding. I
- 12:43Speaker 1: don't know. That's another thing that will complain about in
- 12:45Speaker 1: a second. But I also was just like, okay, what
- 12:49Speaker 1: are they thinking, Like we haven't talked about Katie's sexuality
- 12:52Speaker 1: in a few weeks, Like let's let's bring this into it,
- 12:55Speaker 1: and and then like like I don't know, and then
- 12:58Speaker 1: like for Caitlin to come in like tell the guys.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It was just so weird. It was like a bad,
- 13:04Speaker 1: bad bad like like one of those yeah that went
- 13:09Speaker 1: really wrong. Yeah yeah, yeah, like really bad. Like it
- 13:13Speaker 1: was almost like cringe worthy. For me, I was like no, no, no, no, no,
- 13:16Speaker 1: don't don't and we have to thank you, so like
- 13:19Speaker 1: there's two ways of you this because I've been concerned.
- 13:21Speaker 1: You know, the show has stretched me, especially socially, like
- 13:26Speaker 1: year over a year year, like there's things that happened,
- 13:27Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know how I feel about this.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Let me sit on this for a bit. And then
- 13:31Speaker 1: like I learned that either be like Okay, I see
- 13:33Speaker 1: where they were going, or I see where they weren't going.
- 13:36Speaker 1: I don't on this one though, like understand what the
- 13:39Speaker 1: viewer reaction is going to be, Like do you think
- 13:40Speaker 1: people do they want people to be laughing at home?
- 13:42Speaker 1: Did they want people to be like relating with these
- 13:45Speaker 1: men at home? Going Oh my gosh, this has to
- 13:47Speaker 1: be so hard, Like I don't know, I don't know
- 13:50Speaker 1: what the hope was. But here's the other thing that
- 13:52Speaker 1: happened to me, and you said it best. This is
- 13:54Speaker 1: only the part that like really like kind of disturbed me.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Was as soon as they start talking about it like
- 14:00Speaker 1: funny for a bit maybe, like even when the guys
- 14:02Speaker 1: were talking about like there was some lass I had there,
- 14:04Speaker 1: but then I started like imagining these dudes like and
- 14:07Speaker 1: I'm like later all like, well, I need to take
- 14:13Speaker 1: a shower now. I was like, this feels like gross
- 14:15Speaker 1: to me, Like I need a shower. After seeing that,
- 14:17Speaker 1: it just felt like gross. Really what it was just gross?
- 14:21Speaker 1: And I'm like and if it was something that like,
- 14:23Speaker 1: it's like not even something you could tally and keep
- 14:26Speaker 1: track of. It was literally just something for them to
- 14:28Speaker 1: talk about that was gross. And then later on in
- 14:31Speaker 1: the one date where the one guy was not that
- 14:33Speaker 1: masturbating is gross. I mean, like I don't want people
- 14:36Speaker 1: who give me for this, you know what I mean.
- 14:38Speaker 1: But you're still going to give you the topic of conversation,
- 14:42Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You guys, you know what
- 14:43Speaker 1: I mean. Don't give me crap. But like later on
- 14:45Speaker 1: in the date when the one guy like sits down
- 14:47Speaker 1: with her and he's telling her how often he does it,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and like when he gets come from work and like
- 14:51Speaker 1: on the weekends it's more than during the week that
- 14:53Speaker 1: was such a turn off for me. I was like
- 14:56Speaker 1: so unattractive, like so unattractive. There's a lot going on
- 15:01Speaker 1: at the beginning of this episode that like you know,
- 15:03Speaker 1: and the final part is to this whole conversation is
- 15:07Speaker 1: you know, what does this do for the benefit of
- 15:10Speaker 1: the relationship. Now, if this is Katie's idea, and she's like, hey,
- 15:13Speaker 1: it would be nice if these guys didn't and it
- 15:14Speaker 1: would prove something to me. But then like the language
- 15:17Speaker 1: that she was using, like I don't really want you
- 15:19Speaker 1: to stop, Like it's it's like offensive to me if
- 15:21Speaker 1: you do stop, you know, Like so like I don't
- 15:24Speaker 1: know how this benefited the relationship because these conversations like,
- 15:28Speaker 1: it's not the first time I felt like, whoa, that
- 15:30Speaker 1: feels like they stretched it, uh and and maybe went
- 15:33Speaker 1: too far, like that's happening. I've been proven wrong that
- 15:36Speaker 1: maybe it was the right thing to stretch this one.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I just don't know how it benefited any conversation or
- 15:42Speaker 1: any relationship or build anything into the relationship other than
- 15:46Speaker 1: like some weird weird like visuals and physical tensions. So
- 15:53Speaker 1: um odd way to start one of the weirdest ways
- 15:55Speaker 1: to start an episode ever, I would say, ever in
- 15:58Speaker 1: the history of the show and the history of the show. Yeah,
- 16:01Speaker 1: I think it's not going to go over a while.
- 16:03Speaker 1: We'll see. I actually haven't seen what the ratings look
- 16:08Speaker 1: like this season in particular. I don't even know why
- 16:11Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this, but I am intrigued to know
- 16:15Speaker 1: with this being a the first season without Harrison and
- 16:18Speaker 1: be with the Tube Bachelorettes, because in COVID and all
- 16:22Speaker 1: the many moving parts, I really would like to know
- 16:25Speaker 1: what the viewership looks like, like our people enjoy the show,
- 16:30Speaker 1: I know, I know. So anyway, I just was like,
- 16:35Speaker 1: what what are people feeling like? Are they are they vibing.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Are they feeling this I also really struggle with I
- 16:40Speaker 1: believe from my point of view, I think it is
- 16:44Speaker 1: an an older UM fan loyalty, you know, and I
- 16:48Speaker 1: don't know if that those viewers are really getting attached
- 16:54Speaker 1: to the vibe of the show. Well, there's there's a
- 16:57Speaker 1: couple of things that have been really great. We talked
- 16:59Speaker 1: about to speak on this on an episode about this season. Um,
- 17:03Speaker 1: we've been educated and had open conversations about sexual assault. Uh.
- 17:08Speaker 1: That's been incredible and and something that like will praise
- 17:13Speaker 1: Katie for over and over again that they've opened the
- 17:14Speaker 1: door that they've promoted great organizations in the process. Also, Uh,
- 17:19Speaker 1: it's a fairly I think what's been said, the most
- 17:22Speaker 1: diverse cast ever on The Bachelor, huge win. Right, They've
- 17:26Speaker 1: they've listened, the show's responded. I feel like that's a
- 17:30Speaker 1: massive benefit to the show. Also, I think underlying by
- 17:34Speaker 1: behind all this, which is probably something that that I've
- 17:37Speaker 1: needed as a view to watch, is the education on
- 17:40Speaker 1: like sexual freedom, like being able to talk about sex
- 17:42Speaker 1: and being able to explore your sexuality and as a woman,
- 17:45Speaker 1: like being able to be open about your intrigues and interest.
- 17:49Speaker 1: But this one doesn't fall in any of those categories
- 17:51Speaker 1: like this. This felt like a step back, and I
- 17:54Speaker 1: think of like, uh, you know, I did The Bachelorlive
- 17:57Speaker 1: on Stage tour last year, and a lot of fans
- 18:00Speaker 1: that would show up to this tour were older, uh,
- 18:03Speaker 1: and they always tell me we've watched the show for
- 18:05Speaker 1: twenty years. You know, they were in their thirties or forties,
- 18:08Speaker 1: and now they're in their sixties seventies watching the show.
- 18:11Speaker 1: And I thought, all through their eyes, like all this
- 18:14Speaker 1: stuff has pushed them this season and even last season
- 18:17Speaker 1: and made them think and made them uh almost like
- 18:20Speaker 1: process internally. But this one, I just feel. I feel
- 18:23Speaker 1: like if my grandma was watching this, which she does,
- 18:26Speaker 1: she's gonna be like really thrown off, like like there's
- 18:31Speaker 1: no even education piece to this, and maybe there is.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And if I'm missing it, please write us, criticize me,
- 18:37Speaker 1: tear me apart. If there's something yeah missing here, please
- 18:41Speaker 1: write me, write us about it, because right now I'm
- 18:43Speaker 1: not seeing it and I need a little help seeing. Yeah.
- 18:47Speaker 1: The only piece I could kind of think was that
- 18:49Speaker 1: she was and if if it came from Katie, the
- 18:52Speaker 1: only thing that I could kind of see is the
- 18:54Speaker 1: abstinence part, you know, because if Stephen and I did
- 18:57Speaker 1: this before we got married, we completely have and from
- 19:01Speaker 1: sex before we got married for a full year. Um,
- 19:05Speaker 1: that's the only piece that I kind of got when
- 19:07Speaker 1: I was trying to not feel weird and gross about it.
- 19:10Speaker 1: That was the only thing I thought, maybe she was
- 19:11Speaker 1: looking for abstinence so that when it came to the
- 19:17Speaker 1: point if she was going to choose to be with
- 19:20Speaker 1: someone or share that moment with someone, that it would
- 19:25Speaker 1: be truly like built up. Yeah, I'm trying to like
- 19:30Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to be a little graceful here,
- 19:31Speaker 1: but I think it was lost. So the pieces I
- 19:35Speaker 1: don't get why they did it. Wouldn't that being communicated then,
- 19:39Speaker 1: like if that was the point, which it makes sense,
- 19:41Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have that been communicated instead of just this,
- 19:44Speaker 1: like let's like make like let's play a game that's
- 19:47Speaker 1: kind of Maybe maybe it was has been. Maybe they
- 19:50Speaker 1: just edited that to try and find the humor in it.
- 19:53Speaker 1: But it wasn't funny, that's the thing. Like it just
- 19:55Speaker 1: felt gross. Really, I didn't find the humor in it.
- 19:57Speaker 1: I didn't think it was funny. Um, And I also
- 19:59Speaker 1: don't like the way it made Katie look. Yeah, well
- 20:02Speaker 1: let's move on then, because we've already decided this was
- 20:04Speaker 1: a weird like start to the show. So it continues
- 20:08Speaker 1: to get weird and annoying. Yeah, continue with Justin's date
- 20:15Speaker 1: every single season. I'm here complaining about the wedding dress date.
- 20:21Speaker 1: This one took it even a little bit further than
- 20:23Speaker 1: just a photo shoot in a wedding dress. They did vows,
- 20:28Speaker 1: she walked down the aisle. That was like, you can
- 20:32Speaker 1: kiss the bride. It was the weirdest thing ever. Talk
- 20:36Speaker 1: about taking a sacred moment and just ruining it. You
- 20:40Speaker 1: have to you have to save that moment for when
- 20:43Speaker 1: you're actually getting married. So you know, I had the
- 20:46Speaker 1: same reaction, Ashley, I felt the same thing. Like a
- 20:49Speaker 1: lot of times, if they're doing it on other seasons,
- 20:52Speaker 1: like they're making a bit of a joke out of it. Yeah,
- 20:54Speaker 1: and if it's like a group date and like they're
- 20:56Speaker 1: like laughing and they're like rolling around in mud and
- 20:57Speaker 1: a wedding dress. Different. This was like a full blown ceremony. Yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 1: this didn't feel funny. It didn't feel like a joke.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Like I feel like the two of them took it
- 21:05Speaker 1: very seriously, and yeah, I think I'm right there with you,
- 21:08Speaker 1: Like it's a very cherishable moment. I don't know that
- 21:11Speaker 1: I would have wanted to like mimic that, especially with
- 21:13Speaker 1: someone that I didn't even know, you know what I'm saying,
- 21:15Speaker 1: Like they probably haven't spent any time together, and not
- 21:18Speaker 1: even one of your front runners because at Leastasia and Zach.
- 21:21Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so they're imagining themselves like doing
- 21:24Speaker 1: this for real, Like I I vibe it with Justin
- 21:29Speaker 1: really like the guy, but like he has not been
- 21:31Speaker 1: somebody at the top of our list for Katie, right right.
- 21:34Speaker 1: So I think that was the other piece where I
- 21:35Speaker 1: just felt like it was lost a little bit too.
- 21:37Speaker 1: And to get personal and related to my store a bit.
- 21:41Speaker 1: You know, I came off this show in a relationship
- 21:44Speaker 1: and engaged and like we took that very serious. It
- 21:46Speaker 1: didn't work out, um, and you know, both of us
- 21:51Speaker 1: are very happy on our own past now. But the
- 21:53Speaker 1: one thing, you know that was always kind of sad
- 21:55Speaker 1: to me was you know, the oh, I've been engaged before,
- 21:58Speaker 1: Like not that that's a bad thing. A lot do
- 22:00Speaker 1: people have, like my dad has been you know, that's
- 22:02Speaker 1: not like uncommon, but it still is like okay, like
- 22:05Speaker 1: that was an ideal, like not the way I envisioned
- 22:07Speaker 1: this going down. So the one like honest at times,
- 22:11Speaker 1: like kind of like moment I would step into is yeah,
- 22:14Speaker 1: but I like, but the one thing I'm not I've
- 22:16Speaker 1: never been married. Um And again, even if you are,
- 22:19Speaker 1: that's okay, But for me and my story, it's like
- 22:23Speaker 1: and I've never seen anybody walking down the aisle towards me, um,
- 22:26Speaker 1: and like that's gonna be very special to me, no
- 22:28Speaker 1: matter how you know. And for this moment, it felt
- 22:31Speaker 1: like that ripped that part away, like you can't say that,
- 22:34Speaker 1: and it just felt can't. It felt too serious, It
- 22:37Speaker 1: felt oddly not fun for either of them, probably a
- 22:41Speaker 1: little awkward for both of them. Like, well, again, I
- 22:43Speaker 1: think the show is like reaching here, like the same thing.
- 22:46Speaker 1: It's like they're running out of ideas or running out
- 22:48Speaker 1: of ways to entertain the viewers or do dates or
- 22:51Speaker 1: do other things, and it truly, to me felt like
- 22:53Speaker 1: they were reaching. Yeah, I wonder this. I feel like
- 22:57Speaker 1: this date might have even more of a negative reaction
- 23:00Speaker 1: than even the start of the episode, because I don't
- 23:02Speaker 1: think many people are gonna watch this and be like
- 23:06Speaker 1: that was awesome. Like people have to go through go
- 23:08Speaker 1: through divorce, they go through multiple marriages. I understand that,
- 23:11Speaker 1: and that's part of life. But they've also done it
- 23:14Speaker 1: with the intention of making it work. You know, this
- 23:18Speaker 1: almost looked like they were making they're making they're making
- 23:21Speaker 1: fun of it, of the importance of what marriage maybe was.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And again maybe maybe Katie feels completely differently about it,
- 23:28Speaker 1: and the guy too, what was his name, Justin? Justin? Yeah, maybe,
- 23:32Speaker 1: but again it seemed to be like afterwards that they
- 23:34Speaker 1: shared a really sweet moment together and and so that aside.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I liked Katie's vulnerability, the way that she spoke about,
- 23:43Speaker 1: you know, her father, come to find out, was not
- 23:46Speaker 1: her real dad, and I enjoyed that piece of it
- 23:48Speaker 1: and the vulnerability and the connection that they had from that,
- 23:51Speaker 1: Like I would have much rather seeing more of that
- 23:54Speaker 1: than a fake wedding with the two of them, Like
- 23:57Speaker 1: I remember what I was gonna say. Basically, I would
- 23:59Speaker 1: have just completely rejected this. I would have told I
- 24:02Speaker 1: was like, I can't do this. I'm not going to
- 24:04Speaker 1: ruin this moment for me, like by playing pretend um.
- 24:08Speaker 1: And then secondly, there were other ways for them to
- 24:12Speaker 1: get the conversation going about her dad than like having
- 24:17Speaker 1: to do a full blown ceremony. Yeah, it is. It
- 24:20Speaker 1: almost just didn't feel like it fit, you know, like
- 24:22Speaker 1: do this fake wedding be together and now we need
- 24:25Speaker 1: you to be vulnerable with each other. It almost just
- 24:28Speaker 1: like it just didn't fit, like the two did not
- 24:30Speaker 1: go together. So, just as a viewer, even if I
- 24:34Speaker 1: could put aside the fact that I've ever been on
- 24:35Speaker 1: the show, I would have much rather seen that just
- 24:37Speaker 1: a normal date with the two of them talking and
- 24:40Speaker 1: sharing about their life. I would have much rather seen
- 24:42Speaker 1: that than this fake wedding and fake vowels. I just
- 24:45Speaker 1: didn't need that. Yeah, now here's a crazy part as
- 24:49Speaker 1: an efficient, because I am I am a license efficient.
- 24:53Speaker 1: You are? You are really pulling out some new stops here.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I am trying my hardest, um, but they're not far
- 25:00Speaker 1: being married like outside of a outside I mean, they
- 25:02Speaker 1: did the vows, they made the commitment, like they kissed
- 25:06Speaker 1: the bride and she kissed him like outside of a document,
- 25:11Speaker 1: which is only common in the modern era. Like and
- 25:15Speaker 1: that's kind of weird, right, Like my the pastor of
- 25:18Speaker 1: my church at home would say, like what is like,
- 25:20Speaker 1: what do you need to be getting married? Like your
- 25:22Speaker 1: commitments already there? Like you like I hold a responsibility
- 25:25Speaker 1: to Jessica right now because of our engagement in our commitment,
- 25:28Speaker 1: Like I hold that very uh like strongly and personally.
- 25:31Speaker 1: So this, I think we can all agree here. Maybe
- 25:36Speaker 1: we're agatting, we're wrong. I've been wrong so many times
- 25:38Speaker 1: breaking down this show, but at least at least we
- 25:40Speaker 1: can agree here. I would have said no to that
- 25:43Speaker 1: date and that day felt weird to watch, and in fact,
- 25:47Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I fast forwarded through it, so
- 25:49Speaker 1: I didn't even know. It just felt weird. And come on, like,
- 25:55Speaker 1: what's his name? Franco? Is that his name? Yeah? Is
- 25:59Speaker 1: that Franco? Like, let's use frank Go in a better way.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Like that guy's talented, he's fun to watch. Can we
- 26:04Speaker 1: get him to do something other than this? Because that
- 26:07Speaker 1: guy special? Yeah? Yeah, it would have been a hard
- 26:10Speaker 1: pass for me too. I think of several things when
- 26:14Speaker 1: I did the show where I I had to put
- 26:16Speaker 1: my foot down and I was like, oh, it's just stupid.
- 26:18Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, Like I'm not going to do that.
- 26:20Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense. And I think this would
- 26:22Speaker 1: have been the same thing for me, Like it's a
- 26:24Speaker 1: hard pass. It's a hard pass totally. And then we
- 26:27Speaker 1: move on to a drag queen date where the guys
- 26:29Speaker 1: are supposed to throw shade learn how to like roast
- 26:33Speaker 1: each other on a stage, and of course, like there's
- 26:38Speaker 1: a new guy to kind of get at every single week,
- 26:41Speaker 1: and this week it's Hunter, and like, you know, I know,
- 26:46Speaker 1: Hunter comes across a little bit like a little more
- 26:49Speaker 1: abrasive than the other guys maybe, but like he's done
- 26:52Speaker 1: nothing wrong. Yeah, you know what. I also it was
- 26:56Speaker 1: another piece of the show where I think it was
- 26:57Speaker 1: supposed to be funny, but it wasn't funny, like when
- 27:00Speaker 1: you think of roast, and especially when they've done it
- 27:03Speaker 1: on previous seasons, like at least sometimes it was pretty funny. Yeah,
- 27:06Speaker 1: I just I don't think it was funny at all. Yeah,
- 27:10Speaker 1: it wasn't. And it because they started out nice, like
- 27:13Speaker 1: you can tell these guys are not like wanting to
- 27:15Speaker 1: stuff too far, and I think they got pushed be
- 27:18Speaker 1: mean or be mean or be meaner, which I you know,
- 27:22Speaker 1: I think they could have all chosen at that moment
- 27:24Speaker 1: to not get meaner, but some chose to which for
- 27:27Speaker 1: me as a bachelor at one point and maybe for
- 27:29Speaker 1: you too when during your time, I would have watched
- 27:32Speaker 1: that from Katie's do and go, Okay, who chose to
- 27:34Speaker 1: enter in here and who chose to not get meaner?
- 27:36Speaker 1: Because for me, it would have been attractive if somebody
- 27:39Speaker 1: did get meaner in that moment, even if they're pushed.
- 27:41Speaker 1: I want people to go against the pressure of the
- 27:45Speaker 1: others and say, no, I'm gonna choose to stay who
- 27:48Speaker 1: I want to be here. But some chose to get meaner,
- 27:50Speaker 1: and it got it got a little heated. It got
- 27:53Speaker 1: heated enough where there were some questions asked afterwards. Uh
- 27:58Speaker 1: it felt I don't know. It's weird because like these
- 28:02Speaker 1: two drag queens were hilarious and they were obviously very talented.
- 28:06Speaker 1: They're really good at hosting it. We could have it
- 28:08Speaker 1: could have been really funny, Like I think it could
- 28:10Speaker 1: have been almost like the joke portion that they of
- 28:13Speaker 1: the date that they did a few months ago, instead
- 28:16Speaker 1: of just got it just teamed up on Hunter. Here's
- 28:19Speaker 1: my question for you, and all of this over and
- 28:22Speaker 1: over to you and Ashley. We've seen this season where
- 28:24Speaker 1: there's not a lot of bowling necessarily, but there's a
- 28:27Speaker 1: lot of teaming up against one person. Every week the
- 28:29Speaker 1: group has decided who they're going to eliminate, and every
- 28:32Speaker 1: week that person has been eliminated. Do we enjoy that?
- 28:36Speaker 1: Is that a good trend here in the show? Are
- 28:38Speaker 1: we feeling like the like the mentality of let's like
- 28:42Speaker 1: all getting up on this one person is unhealthy or
- 28:45Speaker 1: can cause issues? Like how are you to processing that?
- 28:48Speaker 1: Do you know? We've been joking and it's like Survivor,
- 28:50Speaker 1: Like the guys get together and vote one off every
- 28:53Speaker 1: single week. And the first couple of weeks I was
- 28:55Speaker 1: okay with it because it really seemed like they were
- 28:58Speaker 1: eliminating the bad apples. But then when they started getting
- 29:02Speaker 1: on Thomas, that's when I started getting over it because
- 29:06Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is just being honest and
- 29:10Speaker 1: you guys are just nitpicking everything Like this week, honestly,
- 29:14Speaker 1: what did Hunter do besides saying, um, like these are
- 29:19Speaker 1: the top four in the house. Like I watched the show.
- 29:21Speaker 1: I can tell like like now super fans, they're getting
- 29:25Speaker 1: in trouble just because they've watched this show. Yeah, I
- 29:29Speaker 1: don't know. I think I'm kind of like, um, I'm
- 29:31Speaker 1: with you been where I was sitting there, And if
- 29:34Speaker 1: I had been the Bachelor, I would have looked for
- 29:35Speaker 1: the opportunity of someone to dodge the drama. Like I
- 29:38Speaker 1: don't like drama at all. I don't want to be
- 29:39Speaker 1: involved and stuff like that. Even when I was on
- 29:42Speaker 1: The Bachelor, I did not do things like that. I
- 29:44Speaker 1: just didn't want any part of it. Like I in
- 29:46Speaker 1: my own personal life, I'm just that kind of person.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I don't like drama. So if I had been Katie
- 29:50Speaker 1: and sitting there, I would have looked for the moment
- 29:52Speaker 1: for for the guys to rise above and not because also, like,
- 29:57Speaker 1: doesn't that say something about yourself if you're that person
- 29:59Speaker 1: who's quick to like tell or like spread rumors or
- 30:03Speaker 1: create unnecessary drama. Are also just flat out be mean?
- 30:07Speaker 1: Like what makes you think that you're the person that
- 30:09Speaker 1: someone wants to be with? You know, that's even outside
- 30:12Speaker 1: of this show, like even looked in your personal life,
- 30:14Speaker 1: Like nobody wants to hang out with people like that.
- 30:16Speaker 1: So I I thought the same thing too as you.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Actually I was like, what did the hunter do? Like,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I mean, I get where he was talking to the
- 30:24Speaker 1: to the one dragged me and I can't remember her name,
- 30:26Speaker 1: but he said no, I'm not in love yet, So
- 30:27Speaker 1: like that was shady, That was a little sketchy, you
- 30:31Speaker 1: can't be honest. Or maybe he was just nervous. Maybe
- 30:33Speaker 1: he was uncomfortable and maybe he's never spoken to a
- 30:35Speaker 1: drag queen before. He didn't know how to act. Like
- 30:36Speaker 1: what we can't process what was going through his head
- 30:39Speaker 1: at that moment. Maybe he just truly felt uncomfortable. But
- 30:42Speaker 1: I think that standing on stage in front of all
- 30:45Speaker 1: those guys and then saying he was falling in love,
- 30:47Speaker 1: that was probably not a smart choice on his behalf.
- 30:49Speaker 1: But I was about the same thing, like what did
- 30:51Speaker 1: he do wrong? Yeah, there's one thing to see, like
- 30:54Speaker 1: not a smart choice versus like doing something really wrong.
- 30:59Speaker 1: And I don't think that him saying no, I'm not
- 31:01Speaker 1: in love and then him saying I am falling in love,
- 31:04Speaker 1: because we do know that there's a discrepancy between in
- 31:07Speaker 1: love and falling in love on the Bachelor, right, do
- 31:09Speaker 1: you know you're on a show and they have a
- 31:11Speaker 1: camera in your face. It's probably gonna make TV. Uh.
- 31:14Speaker 1: I did respect that Hunter chose to take the high
- 31:17Speaker 1: road like that. He did not he whatever whether he
- 31:22Speaker 1: falls in love with her or whatever, it doesn't matter.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I respected the fact that he chose to take the
- 31:27Speaker 1: high road and not bashing me at the guys or
- 31:28Speaker 1: not stand up there and say, oh, they're all liars.
- 31:30Speaker 1: He just said, you know what, I'm not, I'm not
- 31:31Speaker 1: going to do this, and that I totally respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 31:38Speaker 1: that was just weird. Let's go on to I guess
- 31:41Speaker 1: that's it for the group date kind of ended there. Well,
- 31:44Speaker 1: then the nighttime portion with there were so much drama
- 31:47Speaker 1: and the I forget dude's name that like rat it
- 31:50Speaker 1: on Hunter and then she gets all like sick and
- 31:52Speaker 1: start sparking. But like, what a situation, man, what a situation?
- 31:56Speaker 1: You guys? That was what she threw up over. I
- 31:58Speaker 1: can't believe. In the teaser it was like this, she
- 32:00Speaker 1: throws up over Hunter. Drama is gonna be like Greg,
- 32:05Speaker 1: But she didn't have enough to eat and she just
- 32:06Speaker 1: had too much red wine and that was the real issue. Okay, yeah, well,
- 32:11Speaker 1: I mean she's shown it all season. She carries like
- 32:13Speaker 1: her emotions very close to her chest, like she is
- 32:16Speaker 1: she like really doesn't like this part of it. She's
- 32:19Speaker 1: never I don't know if there's a good way to
- 32:22Speaker 1: handle her or if you can save and she handles
- 32:23Speaker 1: it well. But all season she's shown that, like she
- 32:26Speaker 1: doesn't have this great ability to press through like the
- 32:30Speaker 1: drama and the people hating on each other, which I
- 32:33Speaker 1: really respect about her, Like she doesn't want that, she
- 32:35Speaker 1: doesn't desire that, and so you know, every week, I mean,
- 32:39Speaker 1: just the worst statement though anybody can ever make is
- 32:42Speaker 1: I think she said something along the lines of this
- 32:44Speaker 1: night is going so well, I don't think anything can
- 32:47Speaker 1: ruin it. And then next scene she's getting told, then
- 32:50Speaker 1: she's puking a toilet. It's like, I just think she
- 32:52Speaker 1: wants to see things progress in a healthy way, and
- 32:56Speaker 1: when unhealthy stuff comes in, I just feel like she
- 32:59Speaker 1: just gets over And this makes me sick, Like it
- 33:01Speaker 1: just makes me tired, and I respected about her. I think, yeah,
- 33:05Speaker 1: you don't want to see any any bachelor bachelor like
- 33:07Speaker 1: kind of dive into the drama with him. M Yeah
- 33:09Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Uh. And you know why this episode sucked, guys,
- 33:14Speaker 1: because we had no michael A, no appearances from Michael A.
- 33:20Speaker 1: We saw his face, he spoke nothing, m hm. So sad,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and I mean, let's just icing on the cake we
- 33:28Speaker 1: get her to kind of be this episode, I get it.
- 33:31Speaker 1: There was no physical connection there. They were good friends,
- 33:34Speaker 1: like but still good guy. I mean there was more
- 33:38Speaker 1: tears shed over his departure then I believe there's going
- 33:43Speaker 1: to be at the end of this season. Like I've
- 33:46Speaker 1: actually really enjoyed it though, because it just it just
- 33:50Speaker 1: truly shows how hard the entire process is. And and
- 33:56Speaker 1: I feel a little bit like just cliche saying that,
- 34:01Speaker 1: but it is true. You know, it is an emotional
- 34:04Speaker 1: roller coaster, good and bad. But I remember going through
- 34:07Speaker 1: a similar situation with a guy on my show, and
- 34:10Speaker 1: it was pretty early on kind of the same thing.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Super nice guy, he was handsome, I really liked him
- 34:16Speaker 1: as a friend, but I had to go through this
- 34:18Speaker 1: whole date with him and then he obviously was into
- 34:21Speaker 1: me and he was trying to kiss me, and I
- 34:22Speaker 1: was like like, and I'm just not it is hard
- 34:25Speaker 1: for me to I'm not a good liar. I mean, really,
- 34:30Speaker 1: that's what it is. I'm not a good liar. And
- 34:32Speaker 1: I don't like misleading people or the you know, misleading
- 34:36Speaker 1: their trust or anything like that. And it like murdered me,
- 34:39Speaker 1: Like I cried more on that date when I sent
- 34:41Speaker 1: that one guy home, um, and he came to my
- 34:44Speaker 1: wedding like we stayed friends from you. I understand exactly
- 34:47Speaker 1: what you're saying, but it just made me sick to
- 34:50Speaker 1: my stomach to think, like, oh, this is what it's
- 34:52Speaker 1: gonna be like that I have to like break people's
- 34:54Speaker 1: harder and leading them on or like he has no clue,
- 34:56Speaker 1: and it just like it just murdered me. It just
- 34:59Speaker 1: really directed me. And I saw that with with Katie too,
- 35:02Speaker 1: like he's a good dude. Why don't you like him,
- 35:05Speaker 1: he's handsome, put your finger on it, right, But it's
- 35:08Speaker 1: just not there, and it probably I imagined like for her,
- 35:11Speaker 1: and you know what, you're tired, you're hungry, you know,
- 35:14Speaker 1: there's all all the other things going on. At the
- 35:16Speaker 1: same when she showed up in her sweatshirt to his room,
- 35:20Speaker 1: I was like, this girl just wants a night off.
- 35:22Speaker 1: She's probably so excited to not have to go on
- 35:25Speaker 1: a date and to get room service tonight. What's funny
- 35:29Speaker 1: is that they I said it before, I'm going to
- 35:31Speaker 1: say it again. They had more physical chemistry when he
- 35:33Speaker 1: was dressed up like a cat. Oh my god, I
- 35:37Speaker 1: forgot about that. I was like, why is he dressed
- 35:41Speaker 1: as a cat with him Katie's future husband cat costumes?
- 35:47Speaker 1: Big wins. So then Blake shows up. He does a
- 35:53Speaker 1: little what's the movie with John Cusack when he holds
- 35:56Speaker 1: up with the speaker say anything, Yeah, I just like
- 36:01Speaker 1: there's something so Blake I after that conversation about his
- 36:06Speaker 1: like schedule when he gets home, I just I just
- 36:11Speaker 1: I can't So I don't know. I really think that
- 36:17Speaker 1: he might win, though, yeah I think you might. Yeah, no,
- 36:22Speaker 1: you stop it, you stop it. If he wins, I'm like,
- 36:25Speaker 1: I do you guys feel the same, Like, I don't
- 36:28Speaker 1: know what it is. I mean again, it was just
- 36:32Speaker 1: going off of the start of the episode, like the
- 36:34Speaker 1: the intro to this conversation. It could have been really sweet.
- 36:37Speaker 1: She was in a tough place. Now I'm interested in
- 36:41Speaker 1: the end of to hear your side of this because
- 36:43Speaker 1: as great as these dudes are, and and it might
- 36:46Speaker 1: just be me personally. Um. When I was filming my season,
- 36:50Speaker 1: I had what I remember three nights off were like
- 36:53Speaker 1: a date didn't go well. I was tired. I said,
- 36:55Speaker 1: I'm done, Like I just want to go home and
- 36:58Speaker 1: get an hotel and the shows you can do that,
- 37:00Speaker 1: like go ahead, so in the dates and I'll go
- 37:02Speaker 1: back just to like regroup. And then twice during those times,
- 37:08Speaker 1: at some point the night, somebody knocks on my door
- 37:10Speaker 1: and shows up wanting to console me. Now, sweet, please
- 37:14Speaker 1: don't y yeah and watch football on television with nobody
- 37:24Speaker 1: talking to me. And I was so close until your
- 37:27Speaker 1: good hearted nature came in and you said I need
- 37:29Speaker 1: to check on thin. Now I see this even with
- 37:32Speaker 1: my relationship with Jessica. Now, like there's no human that
- 37:35Speaker 1: brings me more joy, and then I feel more comfortable
- 37:37Speaker 1: around than Jessica. There has been many of occasions where
- 37:41Speaker 1: I've been like, hey, I'm gonna go for a walk,
- 37:43Speaker 1: or hey I'm gonna go downstairs. I just need some time,
- 37:46Speaker 1: like I just need that. And if she would have
- 37:48Speaker 1: come down, sit beside me and be like are you okay?
- 37:51Speaker 1: Can we talk? Yeah, and it's like no, like and
- 37:56Speaker 1: she gets that that's healthy. Um, she respects that time.
- 37:59Speaker 1: I respect a time with her. So I just felt like, Okay,
- 38:03Speaker 1: this is a sweet gesture. I'm assuming like probably not
- 38:06Speaker 1: what Katie was looking for that evening. And then it
- 38:08Speaker 1: goes into this conversation that kind of goes back to
- 38:11Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode, and it really started to
- 38:14Speaker 1: throw me off, Like right away, I'm like, this is
- 38:16Speaker 1: no longer like sweet. It's kind of just more like
- 38:20Speaker 1: it felt like they were like sexting, which again, fine,
- 38:23Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear about it, Like I
- 38:24Speaker 1: don't want to read Ashley and Jared sexting. I love Ashley,
- 38:27Speaker 1: I love Jared. I don't want to read how they
- 38:30Speaker 1: sex to each other. I'm right there with you, man,
- 38:33Speaker 1: there's gotta be some things that are left to the imagination,
- 38:36Speaker 1: and I don't want any part of it. Yeah, I
- 38:40Speaker 1: think you're right on several things. So I'm obviously being
- 38:45Speaker 1: the Bachelor bachelorette, that stuff happens all the time, you
- 38:47Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, where people just pop in. And
- 38:49Speaker 1: I always started to give a little grace because I
- 38:50Speaker 1: realized our producer probably put him up to it, right,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and then selfishly they would probably really like to have
- 38:57Speaker 1: some time alone with the bachelor or the bachelorette, like
- 38:59Speaker 1: you doesn't want that, So there's two fold, right. But
- 39:02Speaker 1: I remember thinking at one point, well, I got in
- 39:05Speaker 1: trouble one night actually because it was after a road
- 39:08Speaker 1: ceremony and my producer went to sleep, you know, longer
- 39:10Speaker 1: works one show, but he was like, I'm going to bed.
- 39:11Speaker 1: Was like cool, and I was like, yeah, I go
- 39:12Speaker 1: to bed, go to bed, and I found my headphones.
- 39:15Speaker 1: They had taken him from me, but I found my
- 39:16Speaker 1: headphones in my my music and I actually just snooked
- 39:19Speaker 1: down to the guy's house and just hung out. We
- 39:21Speaker 1: all just like sat around the bonfire. No one even
- 39:23Speaker 1: had like deep conversations. We were just listening to music
- 39:26Speaker 1: and doing like a normal thing. And I ended up
- 39:28Speaker 1: getting in so much trouble by the executive producers for that,
- 39:31Speaker 1: Like they were like, what if something had happened to you?
- 39:33Speaker 1: And I was like, well, what was going to happen?
- 39:35Speaker 1: What kind of guys did you put it on? Can't
- 39:37Speaker 1: be alone? An? What if you fell in love? Then?
- 39:40Speaker 1: Well what do you mean? What if something happened? But
- 39:43Speaker 1: I got so much trouble and I remember leaving there
- 39:45Speaker 1: and it was sobbing, which like was enough, and I
- 39:49Speaker 1: just remember thinking like I don't like any of y'all
- 39:52Speaker 1: and I want to be alone, Like you're you're punishing
- 39:54Speaker 1: me like a child, and I'm not a child. I'm
- 39:56Speaker 1: twenty six years old and I've lived on my own
- 39:57Speaker 1: for fourteen years, like I do need you to punish
- 40:00Speaker 1: me like a child. And I remember feeling betrayed. And
- 40:04Speaker 1: then they tried to send when I arrived home after
- 40:07Speaker 1: being on a date with another guy, they tried to
- 40:08Speaker 1: send a guy up to the house to hang out
- 40:10Speaker 1: with me and console me. And I was like no, no, no.
- 40:14Speaker 1: I locked the doors and barricaded me in, and I
- 40:16Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing this, not tonight. I'm sorry,
- 40:18Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. And it never is like for me,
- 40:21Speaker 1: it was never like the guy that I truly liked anyway,
- 40:24Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not good at multiple dating. I
- 40:26Speaker 1: never happen. So it never happened to be the guy
- 40:29Speaker 1: that I really wanted it to be, because that guy
- 40:30Speaker 1: probably was like, I'm not going to do that. Like
- 40:32Speaker 1: I'm not that sounds stupid. I'm not going to do that.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Isn't Blake really known? Isn't he the one that walked
- 40:37Speaker 1: in the Harrison's room one night? No, that's another guy.
- 40:39Speaker 1: That's a different guy. Um is Blake known to like
- 40:43Speaker 1: show up to rooms? Or is this the first time
- 40:45Speaker 1: he's done this? I feel like I've known him to
- 40:47Speaker 1: do this before. Oh I don't know, I don't remember.
- 40:50Speaker 1: I'm crazy here anyways now, but you guys don't agree
- 40:53Speaker 1: with me and like thinking that he might be the
- 40:55Speaker 1: actual front runner now, No, I hope not. I shouldn't
- 40:59Speaker 1: say I hope he know. Why is it, Diana? Because
- 41:02Speaker 1: it's between the conversation. And then there was this hot
- 41:05Speaker 1: headline that we had last week where he was like,
- 41:08Speaker 1: Katie doesn't mind it if I say, and I'm like, okay,
- 41:12Speaker 1: there's really just like something not romantic, and I'm like
- 41:16Speaker 1: not being wooed by you. I think that's why I'm
- 41:19Speaker 1: saying no, I stu dn't do that because I'm not Katie.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Maybe she totally likes him, I don't know. But he
- 41:23Speaker 1: reminds me of like that bro like in college who
- 41:26Speaker 1: was just like a bro Like he was the one
- 41:28Speaker 1: who was willing to go out every Friday Saturday night
- 41:30Speaker 1: and get as wasted as possible and be the biggest
- 41:33Speaker 1: asshole you know that he could possibly be like that
- 41:35Speaker 1: for me, that's what I get from him. And I
- 41:38Speaker 1: was never attracted to dudes like that to begin with,
- 41:40Speaker 1: so I'm surely not now after being married for ten years,
- 41:43Speaker 1: Like I'm just so turned off by that at all, Like, period,
- 41:46Speaker 1: I don't think he wins, ash I really don't. I mean,
- 41:50Speaker 1: and if then this is my like viewer opinion, if
- 41:54Speaker 1: he won, I believe this romantic gesture that he just
- 41:58Speaker 1: did would have came off a little more romantic. So
- 42:02Speaker 1: so the show is like, hey, we can root for
- 42:04Speaker 1: this guy. Like, I just felt like it was fine.
- 42:07Speaker 1: It worked for them. They obviously had a good time.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Katie you know, invited him in, but I just don't
- 42:14Speaker 1: feel like it got maybe the then you say that,
- 42:18Speaker 1: like she could have been like, no, you cannot come in. Ideah,
- 42:24Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. This this whole thing was Wow,
- 42:26Speaker 1: this whole episode made me feel confused. Uh, Ashley, let's
- 42:30Speaker 1: transfer them into the road ceremony, which we see coming
- 42:35Speaker 1: up next. Utail party gets canceled. Good decision, because I
- 42:40Speaker 1: do really think that, like the conversations weren't going to
- 42:43Speaker 1: make a difference here. She does pull Hunter aside. She
- 42:47Speaker 1: said that she needs to like get closure on what
- 42:51Speaker 1: was going on, but like, don't really get closure right,
- 42:57Speaker 1: Like I don't. I felt nothing that conversation. I don't
- 43:02Speaker 1: know that they established anything. Um, But then she goes
- 43:05Speaker 1: ahead and eliminates him. She also eliminates Aaron, Trey, and James,
- 43:12Speaker 1: And isn't that interesting that Trey gets eliminated because Ben
- 43:14Speaker 1: we had that conversation last week about how the group
- 43:17Speaker 1: date Rose isn't that big of a deal. Yeah it is.
- 43:20Speaker 1: It's it's super interesting. You know. Katie's new kind of
- 43:23Speaker 1: like claimed the thing this season. And I'm a huge
- 43:26Speaker 1: Katie fan. Is this Hey, let's pause the road ceremony
- 43:29Speaker 1: and pull somebody outside move that's been done multiple times
- 43:32Speaker 1: this season. It's it's an interesting move. I don't hate it, uh,
- 43:37Speaker 1: but what it does? I just think about these poor
- 43:39Speaker 1: dudes standing there, like you know that camera's shift, you
- 43:42Speaker 1: know that it's probably a good hour long break where
- 43:45Speaker 1: these dudes are just standing there waiting for an hour
- 43:49Speaker 1: to this thing to get done. Like that's the part
- 43:51Speaker 1: I feel bad for. But for her at least, maybe
- 43:55Speaker 1: she's feeling like, hey, if I have these conversations um
- 43:58Speaker 1: outside of the public, then I can break up with
- 44:01Speaker 1: him easier or give them a little more like push
- 44:03Speaker 1: out the door. But yeah, it Katie's moved. So Ashley
- 44:07Speaker 1: who was eliminated this week who stayed Trey, Aaron Hunter,
- 44:11Speaker 1: and James all not surprising except for the fact that
- 44:15Speaker 1: Brendan stayed Who is this Brendan. We've never seen them talk.
- 44:22Speaker 1: We've seen them talk once. Okay, we felt nothing and
- 44:25Speaker 1: he stayed over. I think it's Hunter him staying over
- 44:32Speaker 1: Hunter and Tray and even maybe James feels weird. Yeah.
- 44:37Speaker 1: I also felt like for producers alone, like they could
- 44:39Speaker 1: have stretched out drama for episodes that they just kept
- 44:42Speaker 1: Hunter like, and I feel like they do that every season.
- 44:45Speaker 1: They like keep somebody along, like can milk the drama
- 44:47Speaker 1: piece of it. So I actually be surprised that that
- 44:50Speaker 1: he got the first season, we don't have somebody drag on.
- 44:54Speaker 1: So the remainder The remainders are Blake, Andrew, Greg, Michael A,
- 44:59Speaker 1: Mike p In, Brendan Wow, so like we only have
- 45:04Speaker 1: we only have six We only have six guys, three, four, five.
- 45:11Speaker 1: It comes fast and then and then Justin Justin So
- 45:14Speaker 1: there's seven guys. Wow, it goes fast. Yeah, it flies by.
- 45:19Speaker 1: I mean we're we're getting closer and closer to hometowns
- 45:21Speaker 1: were two episodes away. I will say this, I think
- 45:24Speaker 1: we're done with the with anybody getting isolated and pushed out.
- 45:28Speaker 1: The door. I think these guys are a good group
- 45:30Speaker 1: of guys. I think it's a great top seven. I
- 45:33Speaker 1: think she has a solid group to choose from. And
- 45:35Speaker 1: I believe here's my assumption this that in itself will
- 45:39Speaker 1: make this the hardest for her is that she has
- 45:42Speaker 1: so many good guys and I think she's having feelings
- 45:46Speaker 1: for multiple men at this point, that that will be
- 45:48Speaker 1: the hardest thing as she moves forward. Is trying to
- 45:51Speaker 1: near it down. Yeah, are really just trying to um
- 45:55Speaker 1: to work on those individual relationships, because I do think
- 45:57Speaker 1: you're right. I think she has some pretty strong actions
- 46:00Speaker 1: with multiple guys, and I think really once you get
- 46:03Speaker 1: down to hometown dates, things start to look for real,
- 46:06Speaker 1: you know, like you have real emotions invested and all
- 46:09Speaker 1: of that. But I hope, and what I would love
- 46:13Speaker 1: to see is that she's able to define her individual
- 46:17Speaker 1: relationships without letting them bleed into one another. It's it's
- 46:22Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting end of the season, Okay, Diana.
- 46:25Speaker 1: We we ended every time in this way. We're gonna
- 46:28Speaker 1: do it with you on here. And just because when
- 46:30Speaker 1: we have seven left, who is your top two for Katie?
- 46:33Speaker 1: As we move in to the next couple of weeks.
- 46:37Speaker 1: I can't I can't pick I don't have a talk
- 46:39Speaker 1: two and for the life of me, I can't remember
- 46:41Speaker 1: their names. Yea enough and that should just tell you,
- 46:43Speaker 1: like the season itself is, but I'm not there yet.
- 46:47Speaker 1: I can't pick um talk to Okay, Ashley, you're always
- 46:50Speaker 1: good at this. Who is your top two? Now that
- 46:53Speaker 1: kind of b is gone? Hunter is gone? What's going on?
- 46:57Speaker 1: Greg and Blake? Yeah? Jeez? I still think Andrew's up
- 47:04Speaker 1: there for me and Greg I think are the two
- 47:06Speaker 1: top choices for me, mostly because I'm cheating and going
- 47:10Speaker 1: off of that teaser at the end where she jumps
- 47:12Speaker 1: into Andrew's arms and in yells, and I mean, there's
- 47:14Speaker 1: like something special in that moment. I don't know really
- 47:17Speaker 1: that's a departure moment. But I'm forgetting, you know, like
- 47:19Speaker 1: I'm forgetting michael A. There. I think Michael A might
- 47:22Speaker 1: even be up there above Blake. Still, like Blake isn't
- 47:25Speaker 1: even in my top three because I think Michael A
- 47:28Speaker 1: took a week off because he's about to come back
- 47:30Speaker 1: in a huge way next week. Uh, but we'll see
- 47:35Speaker 1: a lot of questions. A weird episode, I would say
- 47:38Speaker 1: it wasn't my favorite episode. I can't say that it
- 47:42Speaker 1: wasn't a great episode because we still, you know, accomplished
- 47:45Speaker 1: what we needed to. We got to Rose ceremony. Uh.
- 47:48Speaker 1: But I'm hoping the rest of the season we no
- 47:50Speaker 1: longer have to hear about wacky Dus. That just doesn't
- 47:53Speaker 1: seem good to me. Yeah, I don't want to talk
- 47:55Speaker 1: about that anymore. To see any more about it, I
- 47:59Speaker 1: hope that they don't talk about it anymore. I don't
- 48:01Speaker 1: want to have that just awkward. Well, Dianna, thank you
- 48:05Speaker 1: for coming on. Thank you for breaking down the episode.
- 48:07Speaker 1: It's been awesome to spend some time with you. Good
- 48:09Speaker 1: luck on your move and everything going on in the future.
- 48:13Speaker 1: You're the best and we appreciate you. Thank you very much,
- 48:16Speaker 1: so much fun having you. Good bye, Guys, we have Wow,
- 48:31Speaker 1: my voice just crack. Did you hear that blow? And
- 48:36Speaker 1: I don't get nervous with Nick. I've met him a
- 48:38Speaker 1: zillion times. We've got Nick Harter on the line. Guys. UM,
- 48:46Speaker 1: we're good you are here because you guys have a
- 48:50Speaker 1: very exciting announcement. You have a new Vegas residency at
- 48:54Speaker 1: Planet Hollywood. UM, and you guys are doing it throughout
- 48:58Speaker 1: November and December twelve shows. And I'm so excited because,
- 49:03Speaker 1: like I thought the Vegas days were over, but now
- 49:06Speaker 1: we get to go do it again. I know, we're
- 49:09Speaker 1: we're really excited. Um. This was an idea that we
- 49:11Speaker 1: were floating around for um some time, and and it
- 49:17Speaker 1: just kind of came together. And we're really excited because
- 49:20Speaker 1: I live in Vegas. Um, I I could literally drive
- 49:23Speaker 1: right down this you know, fifteen minutes of taking care
- 49:26Speaker 1: of my kids and then go, uh you know, give
- 49:28Speaker 1: them breakfast and then later on the day go and
- 49:30Speaker 1: do some work. So um, it's it's really really cool
- 49:33Speaker 1: with me in great stage again. We were on that
- 49:36Speaker 1: stage for two years. It was like had about a shows,
- 49:40Speaker 1: um that we had done. It was one of the
- 49:42Speaker 1: best fastest selling residencies in history in Vegas. And yeah,
- 49:47Speaker 1: it's just great to be back home and also with
- 49:49Speaker 1: a really cool um twist, a little holiday vibe that
- 49:52Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a nice um Uh. It's gonna
- 49:56Speaker 1: still have some some elements of the hits incorporated into
- 50:01Speaker 1: it as well, but we're gonna be doing some some
- 50:03Speaker 1: classic Christmas songs uh too. Now, Nick, we've spent many
- 50:08Speaker 1: times at the Planet Hollywood. I heart every time we
- 50:11Speaker 1: go out for I Heeart Fest. We're there, I've been
- 50:13Speaker 1: there a few times. Why Planet Hollywood? What makes it
- 50:16Speaker 1: a good partner and a good fit? Um? Well, first
- 50:20Speaker 1: of all, I like to say that's probably the best,
- 50:23Speaker 1: one of the best stages in Las Vegas. Um, it's
- 50:26Speaker 1: just the room. They designed it in a way that
- 50:30Speaker 1: you know, the acoustics are really great, the seating is incredible,
- 50:33Speaker 1: the the experiences is incredible as well. You have a
- 50:37Speaker 1: lot of just places where you could be really close
- 50:40Speaker 1: to the artist. You know, you're right up on the
- 50:41Speaker 1: front of the stage and you know have these awesome
- 50:44Speaker 1: tables that are set up, you know for bottom service.
- 50:47Speaker 1: If you know, the ladies went ladies and gents want
- 50:49Speaker 1: to come out and have a little party with the
- 50:51Speaker 1: back plays. It's so much fun sitting in that pit area.
- 50:54Speaker 1: You know, they're right outside the fit. You knows Ashley
- 50:59Speaker 1: Bossas and tickets every night you guys come out to
- 51:04Speaker 1: like you're able to form the stage so that you
- 51:07Speaker 1: can like come closer to the crowd. And Um. One time, Nick,
- 51:11Speaker 1: I think it was you who invited me and Jared
- 51:14Speaker 1: up on the stage and we like climbed up that
- 51:17Speaker 1: way and seriously one of the best moments in your life.
- 51:19Speaker 1: So freaking cool and unexpected. And what's what's funny too,
- 51:24Speaker 1: is that I've had a couple of people tell me,
- 51:26Speaker 1: because I live on Vegas, that I had one guy
- 51:27Speaker 1: tell me. He goes, he goes, I gotta tell you
- 51:30Speaker 1: a really funny story, and he said, Um, I saw
- 51:33Speaker 1: you at like this, uh, this Butcher's shop getting some
- 51:35Speaker 1: state one time, and I was really embarrassed because I
- 51:38Speaker 1: didn't want to like like look at you because when
- 51:42Speaker 1: you had performed he did the residency. Um, I felt
- 51:45Speaker 1: like I was the only guy in the audience that
- 51:47Speaker 1: you were like looking straight out the entire time, and
- 51:49Speaker 1: I think you were going to remember and recognize who
- 51:51Speaker 1: I was, and so he was like hiding from me.
- 51:55Speaker 1: And so my point is that like like you're literally
- 51:58Speaker 1: like right in our faces and like you can touch everybody,
- 52:01Speaker 1: but it's like that little uncomfortable feeling like if you're
- 52:04Speaker 1: sitting on the performer, but if you're sitting in the audience,
- 52:06Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, I get like living at
- 52:10Speaker 1: just me so personal. No, you guys are great at
- 52:13Speaker 1: eye contact. As a boy bander. You know how important
- 52:17Speaker 1: eye contact is with your audience, because like that moment
- 52:20Speaker 1: that you share like three seconds with a girl is
- 52:23Speaker 1: going to last the rest of her life. It's so funny. Yeah, no,
- 52:26Speaker 1: we it's I mean, look, yeah, we've been doing it.
- 52:29Speaker 1: I've been doing it since I was eleven years old.
- 52:31Speaker 1: It's going on twenty eight years and the Backstreet Boys
- 52:33Speaker 1: and so, um, yeah, I guess you can say we're
- 52:36Speaker 1: seasoned now. Nick, I've always been trigued by this. I've
- 52:40Speaker 1: been to a few shows in Las Vegas. They've always
- 52:43Speaker 1: been incredible. But you've traveled the world with the Backstreet Boys.
- 52:46Speaker 1: You've traveled the world performing. When when somebody wants to
- 52:50Speaker 1: come to a Las Vegas show, are they getting the
- 52:51Speaker 1: same energy as they would Uh maybe in a bigger,
- 52:55Speaker 1: more open arena, Like do you feel like they're getting
- 52:58Speaker 1: an experience that's worth coming to? Um? I think it's
- 53:03Speaker 1: in some ways it's different and better. Um because there's
- 53:08Speaker 1: only what like five thousand seats in that that theater
- 53:11Speaker 1: and um, you know, you're again, like I said, you're
- 53:14Speaker 1: really really close. But the stage is really big. It's
- 53:18Speaker 1: a very big stage, and you can fill it with
- 53:20Speaker 1: so many amazing you know, set pieces and a band
- 53:24Speaker 1: or whatever you decide to do. Um, but it's you're
- 53:28Speaker 1: getting you're definitely getting a piece of what a live performances.
- 53:32Speaker 1: That was something that on our last residency a lot
- 53:35Speaker 1: of the lot of the artists did, like the still
- 53:38Speaker 1: celine John's, the sets and all these you know things,
- 53:41Speaker 1: that was very um cirque kind of driven. We we
- 53:45Speaker 1: made it a point to to bring almost like a
- 53:47Speaker 1: pop rock show, you know, into into the theater, which
- 53:51Speaker 1: would give you a more of you know, a live
- 53:55Speaker 1: arena show kind of experience. And yeah, so that's what
- 53:58Speaker 1: that stage is really good for. Awesome. So what made
- 54:01Speaker 1: you and your wife Lauren moved to Vegas? First of all,
- 54:04Speaker 1: we love the heat, Um same and he decided to
- 54:11Speaker 1: move to Vegas. No, no, honestly, it's I we came
- 54:15Speaker 1: to Las Vegas for the residency. We didn't expect to
- 54:19Speaker 1: stay there necessarily. UM my son, you know, he was
- 54:24Speaker 1: just turning like a year old, and we had we
- 54:26Speaker 1: came from Calabasas, we were in hidden Hills for a while,
- 54:30Speaker 1: and um just decided to take a chance stay there
- 54:33Speaker 1: for the residency by a house and kind of just
- 54:35Speaker 1: you know, see what it's all what it's about. And
- 54:38Speaker 1: a lot of people who moved to Vegas they say
- 54:41Speaker 1: the same thing. They're like, oh, I was only gonna
- 54:43Speaker 1: be here for like, you know, a couple of years,
- 54:45Speaker 1: and then they're there for thirty years. And the reason
- 54:48Speaker 1: for that is that it's just a really incredible community.
- 54:51Speaker 1: A lot of people think about the Strip as being like, oh, well,
- 54:54Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. But there's a big city outside,
- 54:57Speaker 1: you know of Las Vegas, and and a really loyal
- 55:01Speaker 1: community um that just they love each other and they
- 55:04Speaker 1: take care of each other. There's great food there, you know,
- 55:07Speaker 1: Like if I want, I can kind of just you know,
- 55:10Speaker 1: jump in the car and go get Nobu or whatever
- 55:13Speaker 1: you know at you know, in one of the casinos, um.
- 55:17Speaker 1: And if I want to, which I don't do a lot,
- 55:19Speaker 1: you can go a gamble if you want. But but no,
- 55:22Speaker 1: for the most part, it's a it's a really really
- 55:24Speaker 1: great city. And I like, you know, you think of
- 55:27Speaker 1: Hollywood as being like the obviously one of the entertainment
- 55:30Speaker 1: capitals of the world when it comes to the movies, Well,
- 55:33Speaker 1: let me listen. Other than maybe like Broadway or like
- 55:35Speaker 1: a little bit of New York. It's like the It's
- 55:37Speaker 1: or maybe even Nashville with the you know, the music vibe.
- 55:41Speaker 1: I think it's on one of the live music entertainment
- 55:44Speaker 1: capitals of the world. So I feel at home there
- 55:46Speaker 1: for sure. You guys, welcome your third child in April, Pearl.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Always being a dad to three, oh my god. So
- 55:54Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a lot of work, that's for sure.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Um And and it's not really know having you know,
- 56:01Speaker 1: three children. My son, you know, he's turning five or
- 56:04Speaker 1: he turned five, and daughter turning to seriously spring two,
- 56:09Speaker 1: and the Pearl is a little bit over two months old,
- 56:12Speaker 1: you know, the personalities, the differences between all of them.
- 56:16Speaker 1: The for I think what's the hardest part is delegating time,
- 56:21Speaker 1: you know, to to them because they want your attention,
- 56:23Speaker 1: you know, they want you know, every every one of them,
- 56:26Speaker 1: you know. So there's a lot of that kind of
- 56:28Speaker 1: like you know, passing around and just kind of just
- 56:30Speaker 1: you know, finding finding the time to cater to their
- 56:33Speaker 1: their um their emotions and their needs. And that takes
- 56:38Speaker 1: a lot of working, a lot of energy. So and
- 56:39Speaker 1: now I have to because for the past year we've
- 56:43Speaker 1: all been in quarantine and you know, I've been nothing
- 56:47Speaker 1: but just dad, you know, didn't do anything else other
- 56:49Speaker 1: than that changing diapers, and and just now I got
- 56:53Speaker 1: to integrate the this entertainer side of me back into
- 56:57Speaker 1: it again. And that, to me, there's a little bit
- 57:00Speaker 1: of a tug of war going on, you know, an
- 57:02Speaker 1: internal battle, because you know, now I have to kind
- 57:05Speaker 1: of dedicate a little bit of kind to myself when
- 57:07Speaker 1: I really don't want to. I want to just dedicate
- 57:09Speaker 1: to my kids. The A little personal question, my final
- 57:12Speaker 1: question for you, because we've talked over the last couple
- 57:15Speaker 1: of weeks here on this podcast a ton about transitions
- 57:18Speaker 1: in life and about different seasons of life. You know, Nick,
- 57:21Speaker 1: you are, um, one of the best known performers in
- 57:26Speaker 1: the world. Again, You've traveled the world. You've had people
- 57:31Speaker 1: crying at eye contact with you, uh and your dad
- 57:35Speaker 1: and you're a good dad now. And how like as
- 57:40Speaker 1: you've transitioned into this role you just talked about it
- 57:42Speaker 1: a bit, But how has that been for you to
- 57:44Speaker 1: kind of in a sense rip away the label of
- 57:47Speaker 1: you know, single backstreet boy on a stage and then
- 57:50Speaker 1: move into this well, um, you know as a father. Um,
- 57:56Speaker 1: you know, you you don't realize until you actually, you know,
- 58:00Speaker 1: have your first child. You know how it how basically
- 58:05Speaker 1: it's not about you anymore. You know, as an entertainer,
- 58:11Speaker 1: you know, as a performer, you know, there's a little
- 58:13Speaker 1: bit of that like obviously you're you're a show person
- 58:18Speaker 1: and you're you know, you gotta kind of like do
- 58:20Speaker 1: the things to to to live that type of lifestyle.
- 58:23Speaker 1: But you know, when you're a father or a mother, um,
- 58:28Speaker 1: you know, you realize it's not about you and it's
- 58:30Speaker 1: about them. And that's pretty much how I live my
- 58:32Speaker 1: life now is is everything everything I do is for them.
- 58:36Speaker 1: You know. The money that makes is for the schools. Um.
- 58:40Speaker 1: You know, the I drive a pickup truck. Now that
- 58:44Speaker 1: you know, I don't care about material things, um, you
- 58:48Speaker 1: know as as much um and just you know, food,
- 58:52Speaker 1: that the simple things. And and when now that I
- 58:55Speaker 1: realize that when I do go out and I do work,
- 58:58Speaker 1: and I do perform and I do those things, there's
- 59:02Speaker 1: a real purpose behind it, you know that that drives
- 59:05Speaker 1: me to to be the best that I can be.
- 59:07Speaker 1: And thanks a lot for Sharon. Did you guys were
- 59:10Speaker 1: on a world tour when COVID happened and you had
- 59:14Speaker 1: to go home and you're home for a whole year,
- 59:18Speaker 1: did you kind of enjoy the fact that, like you
- 59:21Speaker 1: had no excuses to be anywhere else. Um, Yes, there
- 59:27Speaker 1: was a part of that as well. I mean the
- 59:30Speaker 1: bad side of it is that I put on fifteen
- 59:32Speaker 1: pounds that I gotta residency. I'm gonna be a fact
- 59:37Speaker 1: street boy if I don't do that later. Um. And yeah,
- 59:42Speaker 1: I mean, look at we all went through it together,
- 59:45Speaker 1: and you know it's Um, with being home, I was
- 59:51Speaker 1: able to see I would have been I would have
- 59:54Speaker 1: been on tour. Um. I think in like Australia or
- 59:57Speaker 1: New Zealand for the birth of you know, my daughter,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: parl Um, that would have been something that I would
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: have seen potentially, or it might have been a little
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: bit more strenuous. So UM, right, you're right. You never know,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: you're right, you never know, that's true. Um. You know
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: a lot of the there's a silver lining to things,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: and we are we're all trying to find find what
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: that is. Um. You know. And but I think now
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: that we're all coming out of COVID in the pandemic,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I think everyone is just you know, circling back to
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: you know what we started the conversation about with this residency.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: You know, we're entertainers, um, and we're performers, and we
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: miss it. You know. That's and I think a lot
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: of our fans and people who love life shows miss
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: it as well. I mean that's why you see us here,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: I mean sold out. You know, you see the shows
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: in Vegas right now are going crazy. You know, even
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: though we haven't opened up all the way across you know,
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: the borders of in the States and everything, and you know,
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: touring is still a stand still. I think that's the
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: beauty about Vegas right now, is that if you miss
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: it that much and you and um, you could come
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: to Vegas and you know, to answer your question, Yeah,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: it's just it's it's nice to be back to to
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: be able to help everybody out there kind of take
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: their minds off a little bit of you know, all
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: the stuff that this society has gone through for the
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: past year and a half. I mean, it's a lot.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: And so it's our job with entertainers to to put
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: a small on people's faces and embarrass you when you're
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: sitting in the audience. Actually, like if there are times
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: throughout COVID, you know where I'm like I'm enjoying staying home,
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Like I have no desire to go to a bar
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: or have to go to any event or anything like that.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: But but my sister and my husband and I were like,
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: but we could really go for a Backstreet concert and
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: you get him a Black concert, Hanson concert. I did
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: three things that I would like to be at right now. Yeah,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I mean like there's you know, there's a like I said,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: there's a catch twenty two there, you know, like, yeah,
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: I did get a little used to being in the
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: house and just you know, rolling around the carpet with
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: the kids and um and and it's like, oh god,
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: now I gotta like get going and getting you. So
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely one of those things to where
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: I think we're trying to transition for sure. Well, people
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: can get tickets starting this Friday, July at ten am
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: on ticket Master for the Vegas Residency at Putt at
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: Hollywood in November and December. There's twelve shows. But then
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: you are also doing something with some Sinkers, some boys
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: to members this August. And speaking of that, you be
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: hanging I would Lance a lot lately. I love Lance.
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: It's the best you guys, you guys like you were
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: doing more. I'm sure. I'm sure you probably do. I mean,
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: you guys are much closer. It's really great because we
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: had done something for Pride out here in Los Angeles
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: at the Grove, and um also for the Trevor project,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and I've come to really you know, get to know
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: him a lot better, and um, we've become really great
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: friends and you know. Uh so and then obviously Joey
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: have no Joey and all and all the guys from
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: that group, and and so it kind of really opened
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: up a lot of ideas and minds, um for potential,
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: um you know, maybe down the road, maybe an instinct
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys tour. I mean, come on, don't blow my
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: mind like that. But but the first things first, So,
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: like so Joey called me up and he said he's
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: he had this idea of this, um, this thing he
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: had been doing called Joey and Friends or something like that,
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: and uh where he basically would do like almost like
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: a rat pack type thing. Um. And he said, hey,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: would you want to do it and be involved? He
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: said one he was gonna one year he's gonna be
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: involved in a huge Voice of Men fan and obviously
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: a j and so we we committed to it and
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: we we put it on sale and it's doing really
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: well and we're excited to have It's called the After Party,
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: and um, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: just gonna have a good old time at this little
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: theater Acnation. That's so fun. Oh my god. Okay, well,
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: boy band heaven right there. So you guys make sure
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: to hit up Ticketmaster and get tickets to all of it.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: You can get tickets for after that. The other one is, yeah,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: there's still something but the most uh, we're we're excited
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: for both things. But i'd say now now is the time.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: If you want to get the best seats for the
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: back Street Boys Christmas show, then now is the time
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: to get you gotta get that one. Nick, thanks so
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: much for joining us. It's always so cool to talk
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: to you. Um, and I'll see you definitely in Vegas alright,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: but later bye. Well, what an amazing episode with some
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: incredible guests, uh Diana and Nick Carter. But before we
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: let you go, we gotta get into one of our
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: favorite segments of the podcast. It's time for Bachelor Headlines
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: and we're starting with this one. Uh, this is pretty
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: much in relation to this week and this week's episode
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: Bachelor at Katie Thurston defend suitor Hunter Montgomery as he
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: reveals Tourette syndrome. Yeah. So, following Monday's episode, Katie defended
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Hunter after some viewers were criticizing him for clearing his
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: throat and his sinuses multiple times on camera. I do
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: not remember seeing this, but some people were picking that up,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: and she actually said that he has Tourette syndrome, and
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: she goes, remember you only get to see a portion
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: of who these men are. For example, you probably didn't
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: know that Hunter has Tourette's. So I encourage everyone to
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: think twice before commenting negative things about these men. And
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: then Hunter said, just to be clear, the snorting and
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: the sniffling is due to minor Turette's, which is something
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: I've had my whole life. Thanks next headline as well
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: as Adams addresses rumors who replace Chris Harrison as the
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: host of the Bachelor franchise. Well, he says those are
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: really hard, really large shoes to fill, and that he
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: hasn't been in talks about anything like that, but he
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: does love being the bartender and he says, the host
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: role is one that is a bit separated from the cast,
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: so you're really looking at it objectively. With the bartender role,
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: I'm really entrenched with everyone, Um, I'm kind of a
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: part of the landscapes to my relationship with them is
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: a strong one. Whereas the host role you have to
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: step a little bit back and be a little bit
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: more objective. We'll see. Obviously people are wondering, people are
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: interested in this upcoming Bachelor in Paradise season that we
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: do know wells is going to fill some big role
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: or big shoes in and uh grocery store. Joe and
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Natasha Parker are teasing right now that it's an intense
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise season Ashley, what do we know well?
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: On their clickbait episode where they reunited after coming back
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: from Paradise, Basically, Natasha says she went to Joe for
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: so much advice throughout the season, but every time he
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: was like, no, this is totally different than my other season.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: This is insane. It really is, um and they just
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: kept talking talking about how like it was intense and
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: it was like so different from Joe's other experiences. They
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: use the word wild lots of unexpected things going on,
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: so it's all very vague, But basically, I think it's
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: a teaser for us to say that it's like a
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: kind of a season with storylines that aren't repetitive, ones
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: that we've never really seen before. We can get excited
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: about this upcoming Bachelor in Paradise season. I know we
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: have been for a while. Well, some big news and
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. We've gotta celebrate. Bachelor's Bob Guineas welcomes second
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: baby son, Blake Barrett, with wife Jessica. The quote is
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: they're so thankful. Yes, um, Blake Barrett guinea was born
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: on July one. It's their second son. They also have
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: two year old Grayson. Um. So congratulations to the Guineas.
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: That's so sweet, he goes, he said. The hashtags the
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: hashtags under the picture are we are the Guineas, um,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: here we go, hashtag my two sons, and hashtag I'm fifty,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy that Bob Guineas is fifty. He
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: still looks good, it feels good, seems good. Well, another
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: thing to celebrate. Nick Vile celebrates one year anniversary with
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: girlfriend Natalie Joy. So sweet, yes, so, he says, one
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: year ish because they did. They have known each other
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: for over a year. And he says, we're visiting the
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: hotel where it all started. It was the Williamsburg Hotel,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: and he said, thankful for every moment I have with you. Natalie.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: We love Natalie. She's great for him. She's so perfect.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: She makes Nick so happy and amazing. He's his best
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: self with her. And then she said, this has been
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: the best year of my life and it's because of you. Well, uh,
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: some news that we're following and we'll hopefully be updating
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: you more on as we go. Less Murphy says, daughter
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Nora is still fighting after crazy thirty six hours in hospital.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: This according to people Okay so Um, she said that
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: she was sick. They brought her to the emergency room
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: where she was diagnosed with group UM. It's an upper
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: airway infection that blocks breathing and comes with a bad cough.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: They brought their baby to the pediatrician four o'clock on Saturday.
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: She was having the same symptoms as her last ear infection,
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: but both ears were clear and the test came back
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: that was negative. Um that she didn't have strap or
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: anything like that. So then around nine pm, five hours later,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: she developed a really loud, loud, barking cough and by
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: midnight her breathing seemed slightly shallow. Um. They figured that
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: the congestion was building up, and so at two am
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: she woke up gasping for air, and by the time
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: they were at check in, her breathing wasn't as labored,
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: so she calmed down a little bit. So they started
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: treating her steroids on Sunday and then it looks like
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: later that day, one night in the er, another one
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: in the hospital, and then they were home. So it
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: was about thirty six hours and she was able to
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: come home. But like obviously, she says, the worst feeling
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: was watching my baby struggle to breathe. Well, we'll be
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: following that and wishing uh and having Leslie and everybody
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: in our thoughts and our prayers. That is tough. Well,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: the final headline of this week is Claire Crawley is
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: removing breast implants for health reasons. My body is fighting them.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: She says, yeah, um, I mean basically everything that you
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: just the headline says it all. She says that she
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: has had um really bad hives and a rash. She's
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: her whole body has been itchy and in flame. She
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: said she's done one blood test after the other, um
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: had two mammograms and an ultrasound, and they just helped
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: her make the decision to get the US implants removed.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: She goes, as much as I love my plants, my
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: body is fighting them and recognizes that there's something obviously
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: foreign in my body. My body can't heal. My body
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: is a fight mode constantly. It's exhausting, it's frustrating, and
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: it's all making sense. My health is the most important thing,
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: and they're coming out. So she's not alone in this,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: you know. She says that she wanted to talk about
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: it because she wanted to reach other women who possibly
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: might be feeling the same thing. And she certainly isn't
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: alone in it. So I'm glad she's saying something. Yeah,
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: it's nice to bring this to the conversation because I
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: know a lot of people do deal with as I
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: hear these stories all the time. Um So, but thinking
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: about clear still as she goes through this procedure, and
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: hope she feels better afterwards. Well, another great episode of
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast Action Packed with Diana Pappus Stagliano
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: and Nick Carter and then Ashley I Connettie is here
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: as well. What an episode. We'll be back next week
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: talking about Katie Thurston's next episode of her season of
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. But until then, I've been Been, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on
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