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A new Manhattan Project and the push to stop geoengineering · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  If we've learned anything from these past couple of years, my hell Americans is that personal medical freedom and liberty are in prices.
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  Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
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  This is Dr.
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  Clayton J.
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  Baker MD on the America Out Loud Pulse program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for All.
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  Those of you who have followed me over the last couple of months know that we have been focusing tremendously on geoengineering.
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  We all are aware of what that is now.
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  There's so much that we can see with our own eyes being sprayed over our heads by these airplanes every day.
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  It only seems to get more dense and more concerning each time we look up into the sky.
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  We're seeing a lot of unnatural cloud formations, a lot of what appear to be frequency driven cloud formations.
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  We're seeing extreme weather events and so on.
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  We're all aware of it.
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  We're seeing increased awareness, uh, but we all still have a hard time getting our heads around it.
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  Of course, no official um individuals are coming clean on what is happening.
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  Um I'm very excited today to have a wonderful guest.
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  Uh his name is Peter Kirby, and he is the author of a book entitled Chemtrails Exposed, a New Manhattan Project.
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  This book is being released on January 20th, 2026 by Skyhorse Publishing.
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  It's Tony Lyons' wonderful uh publishing house, and it's being distributed by Simon and Schuster, who of course everyone has heard of.
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  They're one of the leading publishing houses in the country.
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  So this subject is going mainstream, courtesy of Skyhorse, and especially courtesy of Peter A.
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  Kirby, the author of this book, Chemtrails Exposed, a New Manhattan Project.
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  And I'm delighted to have the author himself here today, Peter A.
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  Kirby.
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  So welcome, Peter.
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  Thanks for coming on to the show.
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  I really appreciate it.
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  Oh, you're far too kind, Clayton.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  It's my pleasure.
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  And uh I want everyone to who has been listening who's interested in this problem of geoengineering.
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  How can you not be?
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  We see this atrocity going overhead every single day.
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  And um, so let's get right into it, uh, Peter.
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  I want you to take a moment, if you would be so kind and tell us how you know, sort of your backstory, your your origin story for your involvement in this whole chemtrail and geoengineering problem.
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  Well, yeah, I'll try to keep my backstory a little short today because I really want to talk about the whole thing here, the whole enchilada who's been do who's been doing it or who's been doing it and who's doing it today, and we'll get to that.
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  But I really just started out in this as just a normal guy who I actually had a background in radio television and film.
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  I studied it in college and stuff, and I was, you know, going about creating art and videos and things, and you know, I was working at a pizza place and playing golf and skateboarding and you know, doing just kind of normal things.
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  I had a fiance at the time, and and you know, my life was kind of going along.
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  And then uh I became hit to the fact that 9 11 was an inside job.
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  And it it blew my mind because I had believed the official story for eight years.
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  And when my friend said that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, and I went and searched on on the internet and found an image of the Pentagon with a hole in the side of the building uh in the side of it that didn't look anything like uh a jet having hit it.
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  I said to myself, you know, and there's of course there's a ton of other evidence, but I said to myself, you know, hey, you know, they got that over on me, and what else have they been getting over on me?
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  You know, what else have they been up to?
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  I mean, obviously, this is not a one-off event if they they, you know, if the whole official story of 9-11 is a lie as it is.
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  Yes.
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  And so I turned to the new media at the time, the nascent new media.
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  This was in about 2009, uh, you know, eight years after the fact.
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  And this, and so, you know, the new media at that time was really very small, was relegated to really large, I mean, form websites were going off the hook, you know.
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  I mean, uh, that's when form websites were like really hot, you know, like God like productions and stuff like that.
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  And and so there were other little things going on, like Alex Jones is around at the time.
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  So I was, you know, I got into listening to him a little bit early on.
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  But there wasn't a whole lot going on in the new media.
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  The new media is just completely blown up uh throughout, you know, the past 10 or just actually about the last five years, or you know, you could say 10, but anyway.
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  Uh so I'm looking at these different stories in the in the new media, finding all these, you know, things that they've been lying, lying to about uh lying to us about over the years.
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  And I found this one chemtrails thing where they said they're spraying things out of planes, and I, you know, I I didn't believe it because I thought, you know, why would they do that?
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  Because they're just spraying stuff.
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  I mean, that's that's about the one of the worst things that you could do to a people is to spray toxic materials out of airplanes all over them, you know, and they would destroy everything.
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  So, you know, they they own everything, you know, the establishment owns everything.
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  So why would they do that to themselves?
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  And I wrote it off, but then it planted the seed.
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  And I started looking for these things.
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  I hadn't noticed them.
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  And and when I actually saw chemtrails in the sky, I saw these lines stretching, you know, big long lines, not necessarily from horizon to horizon, just big long lines in the sky.
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  I knew that that was that was particulate matter, and this was something bad, and it was just totally unacceptable to me.
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  And so I started researching it and I started fighting it online.
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  I started doing things about it, and you know, it had it hasn't stopped ever since then.
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  And, you know, so I've I've really the basis of all my research, the thing that opened up all the doors to me was I did about a two-year investigation into the history of weather modification.
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  And I poured over, I looked at all the historical weather modification literature.
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  Uh, you know, I had access to a lot of good stuff.
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  There's a big book depository not far from me in Richmond, California, that's the depository for all of the Northern California UC Schools schools, and you know, uh including UC Berkeley and UC Berkeley was involved in the original Manhattan Project.
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  So, you know, as I learned later, that has a lot to do with with weather control, you know, such as the title of my book.
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  And I also had access, you know, it costs $100 a year, but I also had access to uh all the libraries at UC Berkeley as well.
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  So, you know, and I did a lot of interlibrary loans, made thousands of photocopies, read hundreds of books, and uh uh and more.
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  And uh, you know, so what the product of all this is uh my book, Chemtrails Exposed, the New Manhattan Project coming out uh next month, January 20th.
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  And if you read my book, you know, and I did a lot of follow-up research on the uh weather modification literature research.
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  I did a lot of follow-up research into different areas of of what I call the New Manhattan Project, and it's all in the book.
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  And and if you read my book, I I am confident that anybody who reads my book will no longer be confused as to what's going on here.
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  There's been a lot of confusion in this space as to what this actually and what uh what this actually is.
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  And the main thing that people have been confused about is they've been conflating the traditional weather modification industry or what I call the conventional weather modification industry with what I call the new Manhattan Project.
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  You know, the conventional weather modification industry generally involves the dispersion of silver iodide to usually increase precipitation or suppress hail or suppress lightning.
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  Right.
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  So so-called so-called traditional cloud seeding type of activities, right?
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  Yeah, and that's what most of the historical literature is geared towards.
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  But if if you read things closely, you'll find many instances in the traditional weather modification literature.
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  You'll find many instances of electromagnetic energy being used in weather modification programs.
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  And and see, weather uh excuse me, uh, electromagnetic energy is the defining aspect of what I call the New Manhattan Project.
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  This new Manhattan Project is separate from the conventional cloud seeding industry in in in a in a multitude of ways.
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  One, what I call the New Manhattan Project is global, while uh, you know, traditional cloud seeding activities are regional.
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  Another is that they're using different substances in what I call the New Manhattan Project in the traditional cloud seeding industry, they're just using silver iodide generally.
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  Sometimes they say they use dry ice, but you know, really I see very little evidence of dry ice being used.
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  You know, they I think they like to play that up because dry ice is innocuous in the environment while silver iodide is toxic.
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  But generally they're using silver iodide in the conventional weather modification industry, and what they're using in the new Manhattan Project today is coal fly ash.
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  And that's been that's been scientifically determined by a world famous PhD scientist, uh guy by the name of Dr.
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  Marvin Herden, Dr.
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  Marvin Herndon PhD, and he and at the time a sitting director of the Monroe County, Florida Department of Health, a guy by the name of Dr.
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  Whiteside.
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  They did 28 peer-reviewed journal articles that uh use the Cole Fly Ash thesis as as a foundation for uh many things, such as the biological impacts of these sprays that they're hitting us with.
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  But that sort of gives you uh a broad overview as to my work and to my book.
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  But you know, since I I went through this whole process of putting the book together last year and you know, putting all the finishing touches on it and everything.
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  What's really crystallized in my mind is the the whole project, the whole enchilada, who where it started, who's developed it, and who's doing it today.
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  And that's what I'd really like to talk about today.
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  Excellent.
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  Well, thank you.
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  And I just as a point of clarification, some people who uh listen to my podcast, have listened to it for a while now, know that I went through a couple of chapters of an earlier edition of your book, and we kind of took took folks through the early years of the military weather modification process and and development of these technologies, courtesy of your earlier edition of this book.
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  And you know, we talked about how the U.S.
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  military has been and has been, you know, deeply, deeply involved in this for decades.
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  I mean, it's obviously been ramped up recent years and in the last couple of decades for sure.
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  But this is something that, as you said, goes back to in your book uh in the the 2020 edition of your book, goes back to the Radiation Lab, the Rad Lab at MIT.
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  It goes back to Manhattan project scientists themselves.
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  One of the real uh proponents of this, of course, is uh the father of the hydrogen bomb so-called himself.
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  Um Edward Teller and others, um, who else?
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  I mean, Kurt Vonnegut's brother Bernard, all kinds of uh sort of mad scientist types, von Neumann, basically everyone who could claim to be the uh inspiration for Dr.
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  Strange Love has a finger in this going back decades, isn't that right?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, uh, you know, I wouldn't lump Von Newman in there with with uh these other guys.
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  I think he was actually a good guy, but yeah, there's been uh quite a few different scientists that people have said that you know, this is the the real uh Dr.
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  Strangelove, but Teller would probably be the number one guy.
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  There was another guy uh who was with in the Pacific Institute.
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  What was that guy's name?
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  Conn or something like that.
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  Okay.
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  He was basically talking about bombing people back to the Stone Age all the time.
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  And there's another guy, there's there's another guy who who plays a very prominent role in my book by the name of Gordon J.
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  F.
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  McDonald, who's uh really his his main body of work pertains to geophysical warfare.
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  And you know, he wrote uh I call him Gordon J.
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  F.
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  How to Wreck the Environment McDonald because that was his famous paper, right?
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  How was this famous paper?
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  He was quite famous back in the late 60s.
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  He he was very notorious and hated by the left uh uh for all his uh you know warmongering stuff and and uh going about developing these kinds of weapons.
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  But yeah, there's there's lots of mad science and mad scientists going on in my book, yes.
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  Okay, so so but let's cut right to the chase, because you you've been saying both uh off uh uh off uh mic and and just now that you know you've got a uh a sense of who's doing this, who's been doing it in the past, why they've been doing it, who's doing it now, and why they're doing it.
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  And so, in about the five minutes before we have to go to break, why don't we start on that and then we'll continue with that after the break.
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  Yeah, well, let's start with the grand overview as to how this whole thing developed, and then after the break, we can get into who's doing it today.
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  Now, in in the book, I I document the this project actually going back over a hundred years.
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  And there's a couple of different ways that that you can do that.
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  You you can link it to Savantar Henius, who is a famous Swedish scientist, the guy that came up, or is he the putative founder of the theory of man-made global warming?
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  And guess what?
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  He was doing a lot of work in weather modification as well.
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  I mean, some prize.
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  So I go into all the the connections there.
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  Then you can also say the whole field of manipulating atmospheric particles with with electromagnetic energy and electromagnetic fields.
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  That goes back over a hundred years as well.
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  So, you know, you can find the roots of it going way, way back, way, way back.
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  It really got kicked up after World War II.
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  That's when things really went into high gear.
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  And then especially it went into high gear in 1958.
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  Well, 1957, when when Sputnik happened, and and then we knew that there was a space race going on, and then in 1958, NASA came into creation, and and all kinds of money just after Sputnik, the money just rained down upon anybody who's developing anything having to do with with space and uh, you know, the domination of of the atmosphere and outer space and all these things.
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  And then, see, what happened was, but generally what you can generally say about the development of of the new Manhattan Project is that it started in the Northeast in the Boston area, you know, the the old scientific establishment.
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  And also the home of venture capital, which is another whole story that can't really get into right now.
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  But it it started there with all the basic science being done there.
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  Irving Langmuir, Bernard Vonnegut, Vincent Schaefer, they were GE scientists working in that area around MIT up in the you know, Schenectady, New York, and all that.
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  That was the original area where it started, and then the development of it moved more into field testing in the Southwest.
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  So it kind of migrated down.
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  This was part of Project Surriss, which, you know, uh Langmuir Schaefer and Vonnegut are famous for.
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  I think they did the the field testing, original field testing uh of uh you know medium scale operations in the Southwest.
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  That's where they established the Irving Lang Muir laboratories at uh the univers uh New Mexico uh University of Technology.
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  I'm thinking I'm getting the name wrong.
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  New Mexico Tech is what they call it today.
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  It's had a different bunch of different names over the years.
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  But I think that's that's the area area where they did the uh medium scale testing.
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  And then some of my latest finding is is that they it moved to Silicon Valley because it became really high tech.
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  It became, you know, really complicated, and they needed the the most cutting-edge high technology.
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  And where do you get that?
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  You get it in Silicon Valley.
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  So that's it it it migrated, the development of it migrated towards where I am now, the San Francisco Bay Area.
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  And also it migrated over to Taiwan.
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  And I believe uh the the uh the evidence indicates, strongly indicates, and I just did a whole uh video and paper about it uh called Tainan Airport, home of the dedicated chemtrail fleet question mark.
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  I think the the home of the dedicated chemtrail spraying planes that don't really, you know, carry freighter passengers in a commercial capacity.
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  All they do is fly around spraying us.
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  I think that there's a dedicated fleet of planes, and and you know, the evidence indicates that, and I provide the evidence in my book.
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  And I do believe that they are operating out of this airport in southwestern Taiwan called Tainan Airport.
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  Now, if you know the history of modern Taiwan, you know that it basically grew up as a vassal state of the United States, specifically a vassal state of the Central Intelligence Agency.
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  Right.
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  And there's there's a whole story as to how all that happened, and you know, I did we don't have enough time to get into that, but if people want to look into that, I definitely recommend you go to my my rumble stack.
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  Um I have a show called The Abstra, and it's one of the latest videos.
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  It says Tainan Airport, home of the dedicated chemtrail fleet question mark.
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  But that's the whole that was the whole developmental trajectory of the new Manhattan Project, the Boston area, the Southwest, Silicon Valley in Taiwan.
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  Now I I have a very good idea, and I'm 100% convinced as to who is actually doing it today.
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  And I I look forward to getting into that after the break.
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  Yes, let's go to break right now, perfect timing, and we'll be back in a moment with Peter Kirby, the author of Chemtrails Exposed, the new Manhattan Project coming out uh on January 20th, 2026, just in about three weeks.
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  I'm back with Peter A.
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  Kirby, the author of Chemtrails Exposed, a New Manhattan Project.
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  Book is coming out in three weeks, January 20th, 2026, published by Skyhorse Publishing, distributed by Simon and Schuster.
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  We were talking about the development of the geoengineering worldwide project.
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  We talked about it migrating from Boston to the Southwest to Silicon Valley and off to Taiwan.
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  And I want to turn it back over to Peter Kirby to tell us who he feels is doing it and why, and we'll have a little discussion about that.
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  Take it away, Peter.
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  Thank you, Clayton.
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  So I do believe that there's basically two groups that are doing this.
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  They're working together to do this.
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  I believe that one group is the group that developed this whole thing.
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  And that would be a group that I call the Bush Rockefeller CIA contingent.
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  So the members of the Bush family, primarily uh George H.W.
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  Bush, you know, the guy who was vice president and then president, one-term president of you know, Bush Juniors, most people call him Bush Sr.
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  I think he had the most to do with it.
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  And then of course, you know, if he was doing it and then the rest of the fan of his family was, and there's plenty of evidence for that.
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  There's uh just too much of it to go into.
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  And I I could go into it, I have notes right here, but um, I think that you're looking at the the the Bush Rockefeller CIA contingent, the Rockefellers are have all kinds of connections to this as well.
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  That that could be a whole nother show.
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  But if people understand this, then they they if they have a good historical knowledge of basically the deep state, that basically is the deep state.
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  Got it.
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  I mean Bush, Rockefeller, CIA.
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  I mean, that's it.
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  Right.
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  And and so, yeah, the deep state put this thing together, what I call the Bush Rockefeller CIA contingent, the CIA is just so connected to this thing.
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  I have a whole other page of notes on them.
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  That could be another show as well.
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  I mean, the documentation in my book just goes on and on.
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  I mean, people are really, I mean, I I I sometimes I review it and I'm like, damn, you know what I mean?
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  Like, you really just nailed these guys like straight to the wall with this stuff.
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  You know, I mean I don't like to toot my own horn, but you know, this I'm just trying to be real and just trying to be objective about it.
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  But okay, so what you're looking at as to who's doing us doing it today, you need you still need to have them around because they're prov they're basically providing the hardware for this whole thing.
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  You got control centers, you got the planes, you got the coal fly ash, of course, the Bush family's all up in that with their dresser industries, you know, the outfit that makes the electrostatic precipitators that collect the coal fly ash out of the coal-fired power plants.
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  Um, but you know, and then let's remember that name dresser industries, right?
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  Yeah, they play a prominent role in my book.
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  I go into the whole history of the electrostatic precipitation uh uh angle, you know, what most people call scrubbers.
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  Right.
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  And then also, you know, the the uh production of the ionospheric heaters and the the antennas that generate the electromagnetic energy.
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  These are all all things that were produced as part of a weapon system to control the weather with electromagnetic energy and dispersed particulates.
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  It was developed by what I call the Bush Rockefeller CIA contingent.
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  So you still see you still need them around because they they're they're providing the hardware and that whole world uh of people and and infrastructure that you need to to actually get this thing done.
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  So you need them.
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  But then the other group that this has just crystallized in my mind recently, the other group is providing the software.
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  And I I call this group that is providing the software.
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  I think what you're looking at are tech oligarchs who are not only administering to a quantum computer artificial intelligence, but also worshiping it as a god.
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  And I I do believe that this quantum computer artificial intelligence not only manages all aspects of today's new Manhattan Project, but also manages everything else that it can.
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  I think that this is a as a uh quantum computer artificial intelligence that has been developed by the the deep state.
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  You could I think it actually goes higher.
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  You could say the Illuminati, but it's it's been developed by these nefarious actors to manage the world.
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  And really the chemtrail spraying operations are only part of what this thing does.
• 26:42
  And I do believe that that you could say that it is the one world religion that that the uh the establishment has been working on this whole time.
• 26:52
  We are to worship the malevolent quantum computer artificial intelligence, and and and it will take care of everything.
• 27:02
  And I think that they have these.
• 27:04
  I I think that you know, quantum computing is far beyond what we're told, you know, in the in the media and stuff and in the scientific press and everything.
• 27:13
  And I do believe that that this uh quantum computer artificial intelligence is on a distributed ledger for the purpose of purposes of security and resilience.
• 27:26
  I do believe that there are nodes in maybe every member nation of the United Nations, but definitely in member nations of the Security Council, right?
• 27:38
  Of the United Nations, because the evidence indicates that you that the United Nations has been coordinating this whole thing on a global on a global level.
• 27:47
  I have tons of information in the book pertaining to that.
• 27:50
  And so I think those are those are the two groups and these these tech oligarchs that are administering to and worshiping this uh malevolent uh quantum computer artificial intelligence.
• 28:04
  I do believe that it's it's basically a cult.
• 28:07
  I mean, of course it's a cult if they're worshiping this this entity.
• 28:11
  And uh I do believe that a lot of people whose names you would know are in this cult, or if they don't, or the the famous uh tech oligarchs, if they're not in the cult, then they know people who are.
• 28:23
  And I think the number one suspect uh as being a member of this cult worshiping this malevolent quantum computer artificial intelligence is guess who?
• 28:33
  Bill Gates.
• 28:34
  Yes.
• 28:35
  What what what has Microsoft been producing all these years?
• 28:39
  Software, right?
• 28:40
  Right.
• 28:41
  Well, they're providing the software to the new Manhattan Project and this malevolent uh quantum computer artificial intelligence, I believe.
• 28:50
  Right.
• 28:51
  And but of course, he's been putting forth a lot of the what I think of as largely smoke screens, no pun intended for what they're actually intending to do in terms of, you know, oh, maybe we should start looking into radiation, solar radiation management and so on.
• 29:09
  And so he's always someone who will uh excuse me, uh kind of uh um uh stick his nose out there so that he can I don't know what if it's part of the whole cult process, the plausible deniability, or you have to draw they're drawing people's attention away from the real story.
• 29:30
  The real story, exactly.
• 29:31
  So, well, that's very interesting because what that does is that shows us why we're dealing with a global phenomenon, which we clearly are right now.
• 29:40
  And it also ties together the fact that the historical elements of this, which are quite well described by yourself and by um Dr.
• 29:52
  Herndon and other people, you know, going back to the Bernard Vonnegut's and the Venever Bushes, no relation, right to the
• 30:00
  Other bushes.
• 30:01
  But those guys, but that shows how that has been converted into this new this new sort of uh, I don't know if you call it post postmodern, but uh this sort of AI world that we're kind of headed toward.
• 30:15
  So uh so with that in mind, um, what would you say?
• 30:21
  That's the construct that that that you've um figured out as being overriding this, and we can see how number one, the US military and the U.S.
• 30:34
  deep state is so clearly involved in it, which it obviously is, but also it's not the head of the snake in some sense, and and your your construct kind of explains that.
• 30:45
  Um what do you think um is the is the approach for people who don't want to be subject to this.
• 30:55
  Well, you know, I mean, we're we're up against a malevolent quantum computer artificial intelligence.
• 31:01
  But you know, I think the good news is that there is also uh a benevolent quantum computer artificial intelligence that that is you know, basically doing battle with this malevolent artificial intelligence.
• 31:18
  I do believe that there has been a schism in the in the United States in the United States military between people who want to support a malevolent uh quantum system to manage everybody and a benevolent quantum system to manage everybody.
• 31:35
  You know, it's it's largely out of our hands.
• 31:37
  There are some things that we can get involved in, and we can talk about that.
• 31:40
  But, you know, I mean, the the a lot, most of this stuff is being done like way above our heads.
• 31:46
  If if you know, you know, if you've read a lot, such as you have, Clayton, you know that there's there's lots of people uh in every walk of life, and uh, you know, I've seen it in the in the military many times, who who just believe that that people are just stupid and dumb and they just need to be managed.
• 32:03
  You know, I mean, they just need to be beaten into shape, is basically the thing, and that's their philosophy of life.
• 32:08
  It's not my philosophy of life, you know.
• 32:10
  But you know, if you believe something like that, well then yeah, you're gonna believe that we need a malevolent uh quantum AI to manage everything and just you know bash people over the head whenever they step out of line.
• 32:23
  But um, you know, that's not my vision for humanity.
• 32:26
  That's not what the Bible tells us.
• 32:28
  The Bible promises us to that we're going to be free from all this evil.
• 32:33
  So, you know, uh I it's it's uh it's just interesting to to watch this whole thing.
• 32:40
  And it, you know, uh it's it's just all been just I've just come to these conclusions from you know, just learning about everything.
• 32:47
  You know, I drove a cab for like 20 years in San Francisco.
• 32:50
  I'm from San Francisco, and I was born there.
• 32:52
  It's the way I put it is nobody, nobody is more cosmopolitan than me.
• 32:57
  I mean, really, I've I've been exposed to everything from the top to the bottom and everything in between.
• 33:03
  I've I've heard every story from from every kind of person from every kind of walk of life you could ever possibly imagine.
• 33:10
  Uh I just don't, you know, and so I've had this, and I got into reading all this stuff.
• 33:14
  I've been voraciously voraciously reading for like 15 years.
• 33:18
  And you know, it's I just have this really broad view of what's going on here.
• 33:21
  It's all, you know, most of it uh is documented in my book.
• 33:25
  But and I, you know, I I consider myself that I have a good brain to figure these things out.
• 33:30
  And you know, this this really just crystallized in in my mind recently about the whole quantum AI thing.
• 33:38
  And uh, but see, you know, the the all this stuff is is happening.
• 33:41
  It's really like a battle of of these these elites.
• 33:46
  And you know, we see little things happening on the surface.
• 33:49
  You know, we see things come up and you can just like you're looking at a lake and there's there's you know uh animals battling it out under the surface fish and alligators and things, and you know, you see little things pop up on the surface, but you know, they're really battling it out down below, you know, guys like taking big hunks out of each other and all this, all this kind of stuff.
• 34:08
  And uh, you know, it's it's a it's a huge war we're in that we're in World War III.
• 34:12
  And uh, you know, we can get involved, and and there are some some things that uh you know you that you've been talking about.
• 34:18
  Um you're you're uh what you're doing this global wellness form thing.
• 34:23
  We can get get involved in things on a on a grassroots level, and I do believe that that contributes to to what's going on here.
• 34:30
  We do have a certain level of influence here, but I don't think we're going to see an end to the spraying until we see a fundamental shift in the balance of world power.
• 34:44
  I do believe that is coming.
• 34:46
  And I think a lot of people believe it's coming, but I mean it can't come soon enough for most of us, you know what I mean?
• 34:52
  Because it just seems to drag on day after day after day with this BS just constantly being shoveled at us.
• 34:58
  But you know, we we can, as as small individuals begin to fight back.
• 35:03
  And and could you talk about your global global wellness form, Clayton?
• 35:07
  That looks promising.
• 35:08
  Sure.
• 35:09
  So there's a couple of of uh uh avenues that I've been encouraging people to follow at an action standpoint, right?
• 35:18
  Because I want people to know what's going on, but I want them to take whatever action they can uh to improve things.
• 35:24
  One of them is uh I would encourage people to get involved with Global Wellness Forum.
• 35:29
  You can look them up online.
• 35:31
  Um I'm active with them, and they have been absolutely instrumental in a lot of the state level um efforts to stop geoengineering uh spraying uh at the state level.
• 35:42
  And uh while people say, well, they've done that in Florida and there's still spraying, yes, there is, uh, but the United States is still functionally in some ways a republic.
• 35:52
  So I think working at a state level is a huge uh consideration uh in terms of if we get enough a critical number of states involved, then the federal government has to respond.
• 36:04
  I think also um I think that the attitude toward um simply uh identifying what's going on and speaking out publicly against it is making a difference as well.
• 36:17
  Certainly the awareness on social media is at a completely different level than it was even a year ago.
• 36:23
  You know, you've been at this a lot longer than I have, Peter, but wouldn't you agree that it's it's just it's exploded in the last in the last year, right?
• 36:31
  Beyond recognition, it just keeps on exploding, you know, uh like I said, 10, 15 years ago, the new media was pretty sleepy, it's become mainstream now, and we're just absolutely annihilating the mainstream media right now.
• 36:42
  Right.
• 36:42
  And I think that that just needs to continue to happen.
• 36:45
  You that the mainstream media is is essentially at the service of the Bill Gateses and these kind of really horrible people in every stretch of the imagination was that way.
• 36:56
  They they serve the malevolent quantum AI is what they there you go.
• 37:00
  100%.
• 37:00
  And and that's what we have to break through.
• 37:03
  So I think that those are both um uh areas that we really need to work on.
• 37:07
  The other thing I think finally is, you know, I think that there still is the reality is that um these things have to be funded.
• 37:18
  And uh if we can find ways to uh cut the funding or eliminate the funding, um, then I think that that's going to make a huge difference as well.
• 37:27
  So I think that that's um that's those those are three areas that I encourage people to get involved.
• 37:33
  And I'm gonna talk about an exciting fourth one in the last segment as I kind of tidy things up because uh we'll be having uh an announcement that a very uh prominent law firm is taking action against geoengineering uh in the United States as well.
• 37:50
  So um, you know, we just have to we have to stay absolutely just explode this thing uh out there.
• 37:56
  And I think that everyone needs to get this book, needs to read it, needs to understand the there's so many chaos agents.
• 38:03
  We were talking about this kind of off um microphone as well, Peter, that there's a lot of people that really are here just to confuse us and to kind of distract us and send us in the wrong direction, telling us that it's cloud seeding and so on, uh, and many other confusions and distractions.
• 38:19
  So we just need to know what's going on as best we can.
• 38:23
  So I can't thank you enough, uh Peter.
• 38:25
  I hope to have you back in a couple of weeks as we get down to the last uh final countdown to your book's release.
• 38:32
  I hope you come back and join me.
• 38:34
  And um, ladies and gentlemen, uh thank you to uh Peter A.
• 38:38
  Kirby for uh writing his book, Chemtrails Exposed, the New Manhattan Project.
• 38:43
  Again, it's going to be released January 20th, 2026 in three weeks.
• 38:47
  Uh Skyhorse Publishing, distributed by Simon and Schuster.
• 38:51
  Get your copy.
• 38:52
  You can order it now.
• 38:53
  And I'll be back after the break just to give a little bit of background information on that uh law um aspect of what's uh happening with geoengineering.
• 39:03
  But thank you, Peter, and I look forward to having you back soon.
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  This is Dr.
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  Clayton J.
• 40:47
  Baker MD on the America Out Loud Pulse Program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for All.
• 40:59
  So I want to once again thank our guest, Peter Kirby, author of Chemtrails Exposed, a new Manhattan Project.
• 41:10
  This new edition of his book is coming out January 20th, 2026, Skyhorse Publishing, the Distribution Through Simon and Schuster, a really important book.
• 41:25
  I have read the previous edition, as you all know who have may recall me working through some chapters of that on the ancient history of geoengineering.
• 41:38
  And I'm very excited to read the new version.
• 41:42
  I've already pre-ordered it.
• 41:44
  I encourage you all to do the same.
• 41:46
  Also, as Peter and I encouraged you to do, please get on the website for Global Wellness Forum.
• 41:56
  Get involved, help to push through statewide legislation to end geoengineering at the state level, and also to make as much progress as we can spread the news that this horrible assault against humanity and against nature and against our planet and our atmosphere needs to stop.
• 42:21
  Going back, I just want to recall that his that is Peter's unifying theory of what's going on.
• 42:30
  Excuse me.
• 42:32
  Um, if I may summarize it, is that obviously scientists have been working on weather modification for over a century.
• 42:44
  And in the aftermath of World War II, this went particularly hog wild, if you want to call it that, in the decades after that, in the aftermath of the Manhattan Project involved with the space race, involving American mad scientist types like Edward Teller involving the Bush family, that is the George H.W.
• 43:13
  Bush, the George W.
• 43:14
  Bush family, who of course are involved in dresser industries, which produces a tremendous amount of the coal fly ash.
• 43:26
  And also, of course, the CIA, as you as we all know, George H.W.
• 43:33
  Bush was once the head of the CIA before he was president.
• 43:41
  We know that the Rockefeller Foundation, the Rockefeller family has been intimately involved in this, according to Peter's research, and we know that global tech oligarchs prominently named in Peter's discussion was the nefarious Bill Gates, are now involved at a AI level of managing this.
• 44:04
  So that's what we're up against, ladies and gentlemen, but the public awareness is absolutely skyrocketing.
• 44:12
  The efforts to stop it are increasing, and we have to do everything we can to bring it to an end.
• 44:22
  With that in mind, I wanted to make a special announcement.
• 44:27
  A very hopeful, very positive announcement.
• 44:34
  An experienced law firm based in Chicago with extensive litigation experience is taking on the geoengineering menace.
• 44:42
  I'm pleased to inform listeners that the Blake Horwitz Law Firm has joined the fight to stop this deliberate pollution and poisoning of our atmosphere.
• 44:55
  I ask everyone to check out this firm's website.
• 44:58
  It's at the the Blake Horwitz Law Firm.com, T H E B L A K E, H O R W I T Z, L A W F I R M.com, The Blake Horowitz Law Firm.com.
• 45:16
  I'm going to read the following announcement from the firm's website.
• 45:23
  Geoengineering constitutes a tremendous problem in our society.
• 45:27
  At our firm, we are focusing on taking legal action involving the large-scale climate modification activities that seek to alter natural weather and environmental systems.
• 45:40
  In recent years, practices such as stratospheric aerosol injection and solar radiation modification have drawn increased scrutiny due to concerns about environmental harms, public health risks, and regulatory compliance.
• 45:59
  As a result, individuals and organizations are increasingly seeking legal oversight and accountability.
• 46:09
  Geoengineering involves the release of man-made chemicals into the atmosphere or oceans, which affects air quality, water resources, agriculture, and human health.
• 46:19
  Moreover, these activities often occur without sufficient transparency or public input.
• 46:27
  Our mission is to focus on accountability, transparency, and the prohibition of geoengineering practice.
• 46:35
  If you have concerns regarding geoengineering activities or potential environmental harm, you are encouraged to contact the office for a confidential consultation.
• 46:49
  And the Blake Horwitz Law Firm has stated through my sources that they're interested in geoengineering whistleblowers.
• 47:02
  And their website states, whistleblowers receive federal and state law protections for any testimony they provide regarding geoengineering.
• 47:12
  We represent whistleblowers.
• 47:14
  All communications with our firm is fully protected as attorney client.
• 47:23
  And again, according to my sources, experts who in particular they are looking for who may be able to give expert opinion on the harms of geoengineering, would include agricultural experts, farmers, entomologists, of course, that is specialists in insects, not specialists in words, entomologists, and others.
• 47:51
  As mentioned, they're also looking for whistleblowers, including pilots.
• 47:55
  These can be military, commercial aviation, private aviation, U.S.
• 48:02
  Air Force and other military support personnel who are aware of, have been involved in geoengineering, perhaps.
• 48:10
  We all know the pilots don't load up the planes all by themselves.
• 48:16
  Also experts or specialists or employees of involved government agencies.
• 48:21
  We know that NASA is involved.
• 48:23
  We know that NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA is involved.
• 48:31
  We know that the National Weather Service is involved.
• 48:34
  We know that the Department of Energy is involved.
• 48:37
  We know that the Department of Defense slash Department of War is involved.
• 48:42
  We know that, for goodness sake, the Smithsonian Institution is involved in geoengineering at some level.
• 48:51
  So if there are federal employees who want to whistleblow on what's going on, the Blake Horwitz Law Firm is seeking to speak with you.
• 49:06
  So again, this is very positive development.
• 49:11
  We have a law firm that is willing to fight the fight.
• 49:15
  The Blake Horwitz Law Firm has a 30-year and longer litigation record with some very substantial wins.
• 49:28
  And they are working with whistleblowers and scientists that are willing to come forward.
• 49:32
  So if you are one of those people, if you know someone that fits that description, please contact the Blake Horwitz Law Firm.
• 49:49
  So quite a day today on the podcast.
• 49:53
  We had a really interesting conversation with Peter Kirby with his.
• 50:00
  Book that's coming out very soon, Chemtrails Exposed, a new Manhattan Project.
• 50:06
  Again, it's available on Amazon.
• 50:08
  It's going to be available in bookstores.
• 50:10
  It's being distributed.
• 50:12
  It's being published by Skyhorse Publishing, which is one of the leading publishing houses in the independent publishing houses in the United States.
• 50:21
  And it is going to be distributed through Simon and Schuster, who everyone is aware of as one of the major publishing houses in the world.
• 50:31
  So it's going mainstream.
• 50:34
  The cat is out of the bag, ladies and gentlemen, is time to, in the words of Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
• 50:44
  Kennedy Jr., it's time for us to say we are going to stop this crime.
• 50:54
  One way to do this is through litigation.
• 50:57
  I think it's extremely important that whistleblowers and experts that can testify on this, get a hold of the Blake Horwitz Law Firm.
• 51:08
  My sources tell me that there are some very high-powered lawyers that are gearing up for this fight.
• 51:15
  And it really is a fight for our lives.
• 51:18
  We cannot allow our atmosphere, our water, our soil, our entire planet to be constantly polluted and poisoned and destroyed in the manner that's currently happening.
• 51:33
  We have to take definitive action.
• 51:39
  I encourage those of you who are interested.
• 51:42
  You say, what can I do?
• 51:44
  You can educate yourself for one thing.
• 51:46
  Let's get this book.
• 51:47
  Let's read this book.
• 51:48
  Let's read everything you can get your hands on about geoengineering.
• 51:52
  You have to be a bit of a healthy skeptic.
• 51:55
  And the reason for that is there are chaos agents out there.
• 51:59
  Most of what the mainstream media puts out in dribs and drabs is all deception.
• 52:04
  It's all lies.
• 52:07
  For me as a physician who cut my teeth as an activist type as a result of COVID, I will say that the analogies, the similarities between COVID and geoengineering are so many that it's really hard to believe in some ways.
• 52:30
  We have technology in both cases that is developed to weaponize nature against the general population of the planet.
• 52:42
  Of course, with COVID, it was gain of function research in labs like the Ralph Berrick Lab at the University of North Carolina and the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China.
• 53:00
  Of course, they are weaponizing a virus, and then they are producing a countermeasure to that weapon.
• 53:10
  The weapon was released onto the population, and then the countermeasure was presented as the only possible solution.
• 53:20
  What's going on now?
• 53:22
  They are weaponizing the weather with geoengineering.
• 53:25
  They've been doing it for decades.
• 53:27
  They've got it down to quite frankly, a science now, according to Peter Kirby.
• 53:33
  They are wetting the old technology of Chemtrails to the new technology of artificial intelligence.
• 53:44
  And they are destroying our environment.
• 53:49
  They are destroying our atmosphere for greater weaponization, greater control at various different levels.
• 53:59
  The similarities between what happened with COVID and what are happening with geoengineering are so many.
• 54:05
  I could go on and on.
• 54:07
  Of course, we have the World Health Organization, which was doing the exact opposite of what its name implies.
• 54:15
  It was all in on trying to lock everybody down unnecessarily and get toxic vaccines into everybody's arms worldwide.
• 54:28
  They are still pushing the pandemic narrative at the WHO.
• 54:34
  Fortunately, President Trump and Secretary Kennedy are working to get the United States out of the WHO.
• 54:42
  Well, there happens to be this organization related to geoengineering called the World Meteorological Association.
• 54:49
  So you have the World Health Organization, the WHO, and you have the World Meteorological Association or the WMO, which is up to its neck in geoengineering.
• 55:02
  Of course, both are subsidiaries of the United Nations, which is this globalist panational organization that is seeking a globalist quote unquote solution to world governance, which of course none of us want, none of us voted for, none of us accept.
• 55:26
  So again, we can go on and on about the similarities between the two problems.
• 55:31
  Of course, the potential for gain of function disasters persists despite some good efforts on the part of the current administration.
• 55:42
  But we are not anywhere far as far into the fight with geoengineering as we are with the problem of gain of function research and plandemic preparedness.
• 55:58
  So I encourage everybody who went through COVID and was red-pilled to get involved in the geoengineering fight.
• 56:08
  And three ways you can do this are number one to get Peter Kirby's book, Chem Trails Exposed, a new Manhattan Project, read it, learn what's going on, and share that information with everyone else.
• 56:21
  I encourage people to get onto valuable websites like Geoengineering Watch, run by Dane Wiggington.
• 56:29
  I encourage people to join Global Wellness Forum and help to get involved in spreading the news and pushing for state level laws against geoengineering and to join our friends at Reclaim Our Skies.
• 56:51
  They're on social media, including Twitter and other platforms.
• 56:55
  They're doing absolutely fantastic work, fantastic research, fantastic work also at the state level and at the national level.
• 57:03
  So all of those organizations, Geoengineering Watch as an information source, Global Wellness Forum as a source to take action, reclaim our skies, and get this book and read it and tell other people.
• 57:21
  Tell people, don't point at the sky and scream.
• 57:24
  That just shuts people down, as Dane Wigington would tell us.
• 57:27
  But we need to explain to folks that there are bad things going on, bad people are doing bad things, and we need to bring it to an end.
• 57:36
  So on that note, I will sign off.
• 57:39
  I wish everyone a happy new year.
• 57:42
  And until next time, this is Dr.
• 57:44
  Clayton J.
• 57:45
  Baker MD on the America Out Loud Pulse Program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for All.