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'Car Lot King' Pays $750,000 to Kill Mistress in Faked Crash · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Gorgeous, smart, outgoing, she had
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  Speaker 1: it all Holly Williams, plus she had a dud boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: William Landway. They're both found dead in a car crash
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  Speaker 1: or were they? I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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  Speaker 1: in Sirius XM one eleven. What an all star appanel
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  Speaker 1: I've got with us today as we try to uncover
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Hollywood, really happened to Holly straight out
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  Speaker 1: to investigative reporter with the Austin American Statesman and kvu
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  Speaker 1: E Tony Palahatsky, Tony, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just start with finding Holly Williams dead in a
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  Speaker 1: car crash and I guess there in the front seat
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  Speaker 1: is ex boyfriend William Landwaite. Let's just start with that.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what happens well. Authorities initially were called to
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  Speaker 1: a construction side outside of Nashville, just to the west
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  Speaker 1: of downtown Nashville, and when they got there, they saw
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  Speaker 1: Holly Williams's white two thousand and five Actua. It was
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  Speaker 1: down an embankment and the airbags had had been deployed,
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  Speaker 1: and there they both were Holly Williams and her strange boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: William Landway. So I'm looking at a shot of it
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  Speaker 1: right now. Her four door car, an Accura, has gone
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  Speaker 1: down an embankment. I'm curious because I don't see what
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  Speaker 1: it hit. I can't tell that it hit a tree.
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  Speaker 1: I see a tree in front of the vehicle, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look to me like it hit the tree.
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  Speaker 1: So let me understand something, Tony Flahatski, What were the
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  Speaker 1: positions of the two bodies of this gorgeous young girl,
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  Speaker 1: Holly Williams and the boyfriend, William Landway. She was found
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  Speaker 1: in the back seat of this car. He was actually
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  Speaker 1: found in the front seat with his head down on
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  Speaker 1: the passenger floorboards. So that one more time plays very slowly, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: So her body was on the back seat, stretched across
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  Speaker 1: the back seat. He Landway was found head down on
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  Speaker 1: the front passenger floorboard. Special guest joining us doctor Kendall Crowns,
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  Speaker 1: the Chief Medical Examiner and Tarrant County. That's fort Worth
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  Speaker 1: and Esteemed Lecturer in Forensic Pathology at the University of
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  Speaker 1: Texas and at Texas A and M doctor Kendall Crowns.
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  Speaker 1: When you are are determining cause of death, very often
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  Speaker 1: I would have the medical examiner, which would be you,
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  Speaker 1: the chief medical examiner, or one of your minions, the investigators.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that the Medical Examiner's
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  Speaker 1: office and a lot of big cities has their own
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  Speaker 1: team of investigators. And can I tell you, doctor Kendall Crown's,
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  Speaker 1: how many times it was the medical examiner detectives investigators
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  Speaker 1: that found things related to the death in question that
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  Speaker 1: a regular investigator, as smart as they are, Sorry, Robert Crispin,
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  Speaker 1: don't catch And it's because your medical examiner investigators are
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  Speaker 1: looking at the scene through a different lens. It's all
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  Speaker 1: about how the scene relates to the body. A regular
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  Speaker 1: investigator like myself or like Robert Crispin. Now I'm an investigator,
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  Speaker 1: it's Crispin Special Investigations, former law enforcement. We look at
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  Speaker 1: it as to how am I going to prove a crime?
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  Speaker 1: Or is there a crime? Your medical examiner team looks
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  Speaker 1: at everything as it relates to the dead body. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: I remember a case I had a woman was found
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  Speaker 1: dead by suicide and I went to the scene and said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's look at her computer. Let's look at was their
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  Speaker 1: forced entry. Let's look for a touch DNA. Let's look
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  Speaker 1: for this. Let's look on the window sills. Look at
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  Speaker 1: the lamp, the light fixture. Did the killer turn the
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  Speaker 1: light on or off? Look at the phone? Look at this?
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  Speaker 1: Do that? Look at the doorknob. The medical examiner team
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  Speaker 1: was very quietly measuring the distance of the shell from
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  Speaker 1: the gun to the bed where she was laying. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, waste of time. No, it was not
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  Speaker 1: a easter time at all, because they were determining would
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  Speaker 1: the shells have gone where they went when they were
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  Speaker 1: expelled from the gun if she had committed suicide, and
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  Speaker 1: hello and behold, they thought something was hinky, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't until and this was a fluke. Doctor Kendall Crown's
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  Speaker 1: I was beginning my study of blood spatter and blood evidence,
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  Speaker 1: and I got the bed sheets. She killed herself in bed.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you a tip off. She was naked, So
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  Speaker 1: right there we know she didn't commit suicide because a
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  Speaker 1: female of her age, her education, just everything about her
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  Speaker 1: says she would not commit suicide. Naked is typical of
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  Speaker 1: most women. But when we put the bed sheets up,
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  Speaker 1: we were all standing there looking just staring at the
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  Speaker 1: bed sheets with blood on them, and lo of behold,
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  Speaker 1: we realized that some of the blood spider that is
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  Speaker 1: expelled at the moment the bullet hits the head was
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  Speaker 1: under her pillow, which was entirely impossible, which means the
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  Speaker 1: scene was staged, which means it was a murder. My
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  Speaker 1: point being doctor Kennel Crowns. In this case, you've got
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  Speaker 1: what appears to be a car crash, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: see what the car crashed into. I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: ask Tony Palaetski to tell me about the damage to
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  Speaker 1: the car. And she's in the backseat and he's head
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  Speaker 1: down and the front floorboard, is that how it would
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  Speaker 1: have gone down the airbags were deployed. Is that where
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  Speaker 1: you would expect to find her body and his body?
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  Speaker 1: So if they were in a high speed car accident,
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  Speaker 1: could very well, you know, someone could displodge from their
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  Speaker 1: seat and be thrown into the back floorboards, turn into
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  Speaker 1: the back seat, and the front seat passenger could be
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  Speaker 1: crumpled enough to be shoved into the floorboards. But the
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  Speaker 1: car itself would be heavily damaged and there would be
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  Speaker 1: significant damage all the way around with the car and
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  Speaker 1: the individuals. Especially when someone has thrown from the front
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  Speaker 1: of the car to the back, they're often very disfigured
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  Speaker 1: and torn up and occasionally have a traumatic amputations or
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  Speaker 1: even a decapitation. So when you see that they aren't
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  Speaker 1: going to be completely intact, you know they've been into
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  Speaker 1: a very pispeed car accident. I am trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: this out because to you, Tony Palahatska, I know you
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  Speaker 1: just heard Tony joining us from the Austin American Statesman
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  Speaker 1: and k VUE, that's not the way they were founding.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the car right now and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying damage to the front end. Yeah, there's just simply
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of damage. Now. What Nashville Police said
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  Speaker 1: at the time is that the car had gone off
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  Speaker 1: the road ringed down an embankment, and that one picture, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: that Nashville Police release, we really can't see how significant
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  Speaker 1: of an embankment that is. And Nashville Police did say
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  Speaker 1: at the time that we're not talking any kind of
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  Speaker 1: major major tree there. They are clearly some bushes there
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  Speaker 1: and some blush there. Wait a minute, are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about that sapling. Is that the tree you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: one right in front of the car. It's about oh,
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, it's maybe fourteen inches in diameter exactly. H No,
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  Speaker 1: the tree is still straight up. Yeah. I can see
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  Speaker 1: even from the one picture that they've released, I can
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  Speaker 1: see all the way up that both side mirrors are
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  Speaker 1: in place, and there's no damage to the car. All
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  Speaker 1: the way up to I can even see the front wheels,
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  Speaker 1: there's no damage. So how in the hey, doctor Kendall Crowns,
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  Speaker 1: is she in the backseat dead and he is upside
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  Speaker 1: down in the front seat, And wouldn't the deployment of
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  Speaker 1: the airbags keep them in place upon impact? So if again,
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  Speaker 1: it's inconsistent with the senior describing and the way the
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  Speaker 1: motor vehicle is, where their bodies are positioned. The airbags
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  Speaker 1: will trigger, if you know, if you hit something at
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  Speaker 1: a at a moderate speed, and usually the bodies aren't
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  Speaker 1: displace unless it's at a really high speed. So what
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  Speaker 1: you're describing is inconsistent with how the bodies are found,
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  Speaker 1: as they were both in the front seat at the
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  Speaker 1: time of the act. It once the airbag deploys, Doctor
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  Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns it deploys upon impact. I've been driving. It
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  Speaker 1: was during a serial murder case too. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I had been to a woman's jail, the Big Dollhouse
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  Speaker 1: to speak with one of his victims that lived to
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  Speaker 1: tell the tale, to compare what happened to her to
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  Speaker 1: what I thought happened to the murder victims. And was
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  Speaker 1: just lightly raining. I hit the brakes for a red light,
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  Speaker 1: and my car skid right into the back of a
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  Speaker 1: taxi and the airbags deployed. And the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: happened to the taxi driver was the button on the
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  Speaker 1: top of his pants blew off. That was it. But
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  Speaker 1: the airbag came right up on me the moment I
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  Speaker 1: hit the cab. So wouldn't the airbag, whether you did
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  Speaker 1: or did not have a seatbelt on, wouldn't that kind
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  Speaker 1: of keep you pinned in place at a low impact collision, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yes it would. You shouldn't. You shouldn't go anywhere because
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  Speaker 1: the airbag will kind of fill into your abdomen and
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  Speaker 1: chest area, keep you pushed again the car seat, and
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  Speaker 1: that's it purposes to decrease your forward momentum so you
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  Speaker 1: don't hit anything constructurally. In injury crime, Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut zero zero C. This
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  Speaker 1: is investigative reporter Jackie Howard Crime Online dot Com. Holly
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  Speaker 1: Williams and Bill Lanway's bodies were found by a construction
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  Speaker 1: worker inside Williams crashed two thousand and five White Accurate sNaN.
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  Speaker 1: The car had gone off the construction road, traveled down
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  Speaker 1: an embankment, and struck a tree. Both airbags deployed. The
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  Speaker 1: scene looks like a terrible accident until it's discovered that
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  Speaker 1: both bodies have multiple gunshot wounds. Rut Row. Okay, everything
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  Speaker 1: that doctor Kendall Crown said is dead on. They're dead
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  Speaker 1: from gunshot wounds. They're not dead from this five mile
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  Speaker 1: an hour slipped down the side of an embankment into
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  Speaker 1: a sapling. That's not what happened at all. Okay, straight
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  Speaker 1: out to you, Robert Crispin, private investigator, former law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: he's at Crispin Investigations dot com. How's that here, you, Crispin? Clearly, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: this is where everything's going to start to unravel. The
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  Speaker 1: speed of the crash, the two dead bodies, the position
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  Speaker 1: of the bodies to anybody who shows up on that
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  Speaker 1: scene is going to say, hey, this just isn't right.
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  Speaker 1: I got a guy underneath the dash. Yeah, you know, Robert.
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  Speaker 1: When I first looked at the picture, I'm like, something's
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  Speaker 1: not right because it's kind of a gentle slope. They
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  Speaker 1: have to be going at least fast enough to knock
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  Speaker 1: the tree forward to get to both of them thrown out,
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  Speaker 1: one in the backseat, one doubled over in the front seat.
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  Speaker 1: What about it, Dale Carson? And even introduce you Del
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  Speaker 1: Carson with me, high profile lawyer out of Jacksonville, former
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  Speaker 1: fed with the FBI, and author of arrest Proof yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that Del Carson Law dot com. How
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  Speaker 1: does they grab you? The fact that Tony Plahotski has
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  Speaker 1: just blurted out, Well, I think when you find out
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  Speaker 1: that they've been shot, which should not be necessarily apparent
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  Speaker 1: at the crime scene, but certainly would be evident at
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  Speaker 1: the autopsy, then the entire matter takes on a different trajectory. Well,
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  Speaker 1: long story short, we know it's Holly Williams, gorgeous, smart, gregarious,
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  Speaker 1: everybody loves her and this estranged boyfriend, William Landway. So,
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  Speaker 1: knowing what I know about him, my first thought would say, ah,
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  Speaker 1: murder suicide. Why do I say that? Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to our cut zero zero A from crime Online. Holly
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  Speaker 1: Williams grew up in Murphy's Villa, Tennessee. She was licensed
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  Speaker 1: as a medical pian and my all accounts, was good
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  Speaker 1: at her job. But when people talk about Williams, it's
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  Speaker 1: to say how humble, quiet and sweet she was. Williams
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  Speaker 1: had been in a long term, on again, off again
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  Speaker 1: relationship with William Bill Lanway. His upbringing was far less idyllic.
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  Speaker 1: As a child, Landway was held hostage at gunpoint by
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  Speaker 1: his father for hours in his mother's apartment. A week later,
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  Speaker 1: his father, Lyle Lanway, stabbed his mother, Candy, to death,
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  Speaker 1: as Bill and his sister ran to a neighbor for help.
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  Speaker 1: Lyle Lanway went to prison for murder, and Bill was
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  Speaker 1: raised by an aunt. As an adult, Bill Lanway married
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  Speaker 1: and had a daughter, Madison Ka Lanway. She was the
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  Speaker 1: light of his life, but the little girl died at
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  Speaker 1: age five from brain cancer. Friends say Lanway was never
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  Speaker 1: the same, never the same, But does that explain this?
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to cut wob thirty three year old
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  Speaker 1: Holly Williams and thirty six year old William Lanway's relationship
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  Speaker 1: was tumultuous. Court wreck show Williams called police on Landway
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  Speaker 1: at least three times in one year. Lanway was arrested
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  Speaker 1: on a domestic assault charge for punching Williams. He was
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  Speaker 1: also arrested on charges of aggravated assault and faults imprisonment
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  Speaker 1: for attacking Williams in a domestic violence incident. Williams also
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  Speaker 1: says Landway tried to strangle her because she tried to
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  Speaker 1: run away during an argument. Williams had obtained an order
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  Speaker 1: of protection against Landway. I guess she did try to
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  Speaker 1: run away during an argument, afraid of what he might
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  Speaker 1: do to her. So I'm sure police once they figured out, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a car crash, they immediately think murder suicide.
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  Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Karen? Start that he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have her, so nobody else would, so he shoots her
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  Speaker 1: and then shoots himself. I would definitely agree with that, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great theory because very often in situations like that,
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  Speaker 1: the woman is unable to escape from the abuse, even
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  Speaker 1: no matter how much you try. And so I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if there's a restraining order. This guy was not
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  Speaker 1: going to leave her alone. So let's go with murder
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  Speaker 1: suicide for a moment, now that we've figured out that
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  Speaker 1: it's not a car crash death. Tony Plahovsky investigative reporter,
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  Speaker 1: Austin American Statesman and KVUE. Aren't you a busy boy?
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  Speaker 1: Tony Plahovski tell me about the injuries to William Landway,
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  Speaker 1: the estranged boyfriend. Well, again, there were the injuries that
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  Speaker 1: we've discussed in terms of the placement of the body,
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  Speaker 1: but investigators quickly were able to determine exactly where they
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  Speaker 1: had been shot. So Landway was found with two shots
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  Speaker 1: to his torso and one to his left forearm. Holly
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  Speaker 1: William had a gunshot wound to her head and one
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  Speaker 1: to her chest according to their autopsy. Okay, right, they
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  Speaker 1: are doctor Kendall Crown's. Typically when men, and we're going
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  Speaker 1: onto the theory that he killed her because he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have her and then killed himself, demand typically commit suicide
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  Speaker 1: by shooting themselves in the chest. Not typically, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean it does happen, but usually they shoot themselves in
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  Speaker 1: the head. But some people, I think they are trying
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  Speaker 1: to go for a dramatic look by shooting themselves in
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  Speaker 1: their heart, but usually males it's to their heads. Females
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  Speaker 1: often will try and preserve their face and shoot themselves
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  Speaker 1: in the torso. Doctor Kendall Crowns, you say women normally
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  Speaker 1: shoot themselves in the torso, we think subconsciously because they
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  Speaker 1: do not want to disfigure their face. Don't Women typically
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  Speaker 1: commit suicide by other modes such as poison or jumping
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  Speaker 1: out of a window, just or carbon monoxide bills typically
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  Speaker 1: more often than anything else, Although in Texas I've seen
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  Speaker 1: more women shoot themselves than any other jurisdiction I've worked interesting,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's because the people have more knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of guns here. But as they general role fact, women
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  Speaker 1: don't typically shoot themselves as a motive suicide. Is that correct,
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  Speaker 1: doctor crown So it is correct. It's more often over there.
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  Speaker 1: And you're saying that typically when men do commit suicide
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  Speaker 1: by gun, they do not shoot themselves in the chest.
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  Speaker 1: They shoot themselves in the head. That is correct. Why
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  Speaker 1: you and Karen Starts. I just wanted to add to
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  Speaker 1: what you were saying. Women. Women are not as violent
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  Speaker 1: as men for the most part, and so they avoid
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  Speaker 1: doing anything that's going to be like hating themselves or
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  Speaker 1: shooting themselves and are much more. Typically they'll take pills
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  Speaker 1: or do something like being a car and use carbon monoxide.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what we're doing right now, Dale Carson,
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  Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of jackson Jacksonville and former FBI.
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  Speaker 1: We're going down a rabbit hole because our whole premise
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  Speaker 1: is murder suicide. That he murders her and then kills himself.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what happened. When you're preparing a case
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  Speaker 1: or investigating a case, you go off on a tangent.
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  Speaker 1: You look at all the possibilities. And so we've chased
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  Speaker 1: that one down and we doubt statistically that she was
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  Speaker 1: the gun person. But Dale Carson, do you see anything
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  Speaker 1: wrong with the theory he committed suicide? Absolutely? I do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not unusual for the victim to be
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  Speaker 1: shot more than once, but it's often really odd where
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  Speaker 1: a suicide victim is able to shoot themselves several times. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You and I've been talking forever about the case Ellen
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  Speaker 1: Greenberg stabbed twenty something times and it was deemed a suicide,
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  Speaker 1: which is crazy. Same thing here, how did he shoot
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  Speaker 1: himself three times? He shot himself dead and then came
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  Speaker 1: back and shot himself dead again crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Suddenly the investigation is turned on its ear. So in
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  Speaker 1: this situation you start looking at the two dead bodies.
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  Speaker 1: Who are these people? This is not a murder suicide,
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  Speaker 1: This is not a car crash, a deadly car crash.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Mariah Tims from the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee and speaking to KVUE. Holly Williams was described by
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  Speaker 1: friends and family is sweet and trusting. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: from certain reports we can find that she and land
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  Speaker 1: wad bet in a relationship for a few years, and
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  Speaker 1: in the last few months of their lives together it
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  Speaker 1: turns our at least there are reports of domestic violence
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  Speaker 1: when we was charged from the domestic violence, domestic assault
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  Speaker 1: and later aggravated assault after the second time, but hollypol
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  Speaker 1: the cops on him. But as the investigation gets is
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  Speaker 1: on Tony Plahetski joining me from KVUE and Austin American Statesman.
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  Speaker 1: It turns out that Holly Williams may have been dating
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  Speaker 1: somebody else who well. According to information uncovered by investigators,
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  Speaker 1: they were able to determine that she was having a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with a man in Austin, Texas by the name
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  Speaker 1: of Eric Charles Mond. He's a forty six year old father,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Charles Monde. Okay, go ahead, who did you say
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  Speaker 1: he is? He's a forty six year old father and
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  Speaker 1: comes from a well established family here in Austin. What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean a well established family here in Austin? Well,
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? But what does that? Well, it means
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  Speaker 1: that his family money or breeding or both. It means
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  Speaker 1: that his family owns car dealers, owns car dealerships here
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  Speaker 1: in central Texas, a Toyota dealership of Voltsy Dealership. It
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  Speaker 1: is a very well known name, the man family here
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  Speaker 1: and awesome M a U n D M a u
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: n D. Correct. So he comes from a car family,
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  Speaker 1: car dealership dynasty. Does he work at a car dealership?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He is a part owner. The dealership was actually started
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: by his grandfather many years ago. His father, as you
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: can imagine, was also part of the dealership, but over
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: time has gradually stepped away from the dealership. But but
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: family members are now a minute, you mean, like Prince
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Harry stepped away from the monarchy. Wait a minute, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: what does this guy do for a living? Let me
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: just ask, does he get out on the lot and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: sell cars or she says, a trust fund? Baby? What
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is he? He's a part owner? I mean on paper,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and it's not really an answer. That was not one
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of the two options, Tony Flatsky. Does the man work
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: or does he live off what his grandfather did? You know?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I do know
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that he had an office at a dealership and went
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to work as far as I know how, whether or
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not he punched the clock and was there eight hours
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a day. I think we probably know the answer to that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But in terms of his daily work life, I don't
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: know what. I know that he lives in a five
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: million dollars he said, we probably know the answer. I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: don't know the answer. What is the answer? Does everybody
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: know but me? What's the answer? Probably? Okay, thank you,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Dale Carson, who's not an investigative reporter. Tony Plaatski, Okay,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: now wait a minute. You told me that Eric Charles
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Maund is a father, right, Yeah, he is a father.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Now I assume that means it's attached to a mother,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: which means is he a married man? He is a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: married father? Yea, he is a married dad. Take a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: listen to our cut zero zero D from crime Online.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: As the investigation into the couple's murder progressed, another name
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: became linked with Holly Williams Eric Charles Mound, a prominent
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  Speaker 1: Austin businessman whose family runs multiple auto dealerships in Texas.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Monde and Williams had a relationship, and Monde wanted to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: see Williams again. When he traveled to the Nashville area
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to visit a relative in early February, he emailed Williams
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to set up a meeting. Set up a meeting to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: visit a relative? What relative? You mean? Is this a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: booty call? Is that? What's happening? Tony Platski, this married
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: guy with children? Eric Charles maund the car dealership dynasty
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: air He goes from Austin to Nashville to set up
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a meeting with Holly Williams. Is that what happened? Well?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So one important fact is that he has a son
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: who attends college and has been attending college in Nashville
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: for the past couple of years. Okay, so he really
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: is going to visit someone and that would be his son.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, So authorities believe that that. Over the past
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: couple of years, as he has gone to Nashville frequently,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: he developed a relationship with Holly Williams. I love the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: way you say that. I love the way you say
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that developed a relationship. Really, is it like our relationship,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Tony Platsky, we're friends. You're a reporter. I like to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: ask you questions and you answer them, for the most
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: part correctly. That I mean, can we stop putting perfume
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: on the pig? Karen Stark? It's a booty call. Sounds
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like a booty call, Nancy, I mean he's supposed to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: be I never thought I would hear Karen Stark say
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the words booty call. It's just something wrong with it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. It certainly looks like he's fooling around with
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: this woman. He's using the opportunity to visit his son
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to be involved with somebody else, Be involved with interesting,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Be involved, El Carson. I don't think that's quite the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: way I would put it. Be involved, you mean jumping
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a set. If you read the text message that he
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: sent to her, you'd fully understand and appreciate what was
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: going on, because that's clearly why why don't you read it?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: For our listeners. Since apparently Tony Plahotski can't bring himself
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: to call it what it is, go ahead and read
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the text. Hell, I don't want to have it with me,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: but it essentially it says, hey, beautiful, I'm excited. Yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he called her beautiful, I mean, and he says, meet
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: me in the lobby of the hotel, just like you
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: did last time. That's what he said. Okay, can we
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: just slow down? First of all, you were not calling
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: on Tony Plahatsky. Okay. Number one, you're completely out of turn.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And if you were in court, you know a defendant
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: can be restrained and gagged and forced to sit there.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's awesome when that happens, del Carson. Since you couldn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: spit it out quickly enough, so he says, hey, beautiful,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like all the guys went, Yeah, he called her beautiful.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Am I impressed by that? No, if my husband shows
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: up with flowers, he goes high, beautiful, I'm like, Okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: what's up? I'd much rather him clean out the guinea
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: pig cage one day or clean up after supper. That's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: much more valuable to me than cheap words that mean nothing.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: All right, So this is the part that I'm hinging
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on right here. Let's go to you, Crispin, private Eye,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Robert Crispin. Crispin Special investigations, not just investigations, but special investigations. Crispin.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Meet me in the hotel lobby like last time? What
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: did he even bother to slow the car down? Did he?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't go to the front door and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: ring the doorbell and asked Daddy to send her out
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: with a bouquet of flowers. Meet me in the lobby.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding? That's the relationship? Meet me in the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: lobby of the hotel like last time? What am I?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Clearly there's history there, absolute history here and and you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: let's speed things up. It's just a business transaction, probably
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: for him, and that's probably the relationship they had. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: this woman, Holly Williams, let me just guess. Think she's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in love? I bet you anything. Based on what we
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: know about her, she thinks they have a future. Okay,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: then he's planning to quote set up a meeting with her.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. In March, after visiting with Williams, Mande,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: who was married, received communications himself in the form of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: a series of text messages from Bill Landway. Whoa wa
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: wa wait? Isn't he supposed to be getting sexy messages
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: back from Holly? Instead he gets messages from Bill Landway
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the estranged boyfriend. Okay, take a listen to our friend
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Dave Mack crime online cut ten. After his visit to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Nashville on March first, twenty twenty, Maunds received a series
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of text messages from an individual, William Landway, who had
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a personal romantic relationship with Williams. Landway demanded payment from
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Maud and threatened to expose his relationship with Williams if
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he did not receive it. Man then enlisted the services
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of Glad Paled, Brian Brockway, and Adam Carey to assist
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: with dealing with the threats to expose his relationship with
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Williams and the extortion demands, Well, hatsky, What the hey?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: So the boyfriend upside down dead in the car is what?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Extorting the car dealership air, threatening to rap out his
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: sex affair with Holly to who Man's wife? That's what
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: investigators all allege in a thirteen page federal indictment that
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: frankly reads more like a movie script, but yes, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a couple of outstanding questions that we don't know the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: answer to is exactly how much Landway was asking from Lawn.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: No dollar amount has ever been established. Time stories with
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, take a listen to our cut seven
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: from our fancy k v u E listen. Indictment alleges
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that Maun then hired either directly or indirectly. According to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the indictment, three other men and the plot. One of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: those men, Galen Paled, owns an Austome based security firm
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: called Spear Tip Security, and just five days ago Maund
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: left a glowing Google review of that company. The two
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: other men, Byron Brockway and Adam Carey, also had military
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and security experience. According to those federal documents, Carrie and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Brockway both had served and special operations, and the marines
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: An authorities say Maun paid them at least seven hundred
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars as part of the plot. In
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a statement this afternoon, attorneys Perryminton and Sam Bassett said
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they are representing Maund and that quote, we have spoken
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to mister Maun only briefly on the matter. We will
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: understand more in the coming days and weeks. The entire
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Maun family loves and supports their son. Okay, so let
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: me understand what is happening to Robert Crispin joining me
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: private investigator at Crispin Special Investigations. What happened wells to me,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like these guys want to get some money out of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: him and instort him for his affairies, having and routed
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: out to the wife. Which starts the slow role of
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: getting yourself caught with their electronic transmissions, which is the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: best evidence out there for an investigator, because from the start,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: this major thing, you're not kidding, go ahead, from the start,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: this entire things don't the position of the bodies, there's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: no driver, it's a passenger. Where's the driver, the low
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: impact crash, the bodies don't match the speed of the crash.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: The relationship between the two, sure that comes into play.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: They had some domestic violence, but how many women go
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: back to the guy, or how many guys go back
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to the abusive woman. It's life, it's what they do.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Now we've got two dead bodies. Now the electronic evidence
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: starts coming in. It's a investigator's dream, electronic evidence, and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it's evidence that you can't alter or destroy and it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: tells the story, Nancy, It lays everything out. What a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: bunch of idiots. And now I know they're special ops,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: which you'd think that they would set this up so
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it's never to be detected. But guess what, guys, that's
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: typically in the movies where the murders are arranged and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the hitman it's never discovered. They're not Jason Bourne. All right,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: let's just put it that way. Take a listen to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: our cut eleven Dave Matt Crime online. On mar Eric
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Mond withdrew fifteen thousand dollars from his bank account. On
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that same day, an intelligence report was prepared and provided
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to Gallaude Paled by a relative of Brian Brockway, who
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: worked for an internet based security company. A series of
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: actions were then undertaken by Adam Carey and others, including
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: traveling from out of state to Nashville to surveil Williams
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and Landway, creating and using a PingER account to attempt
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to communicate with Williams and Landway. On March nine, twenty twenty,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Polled received a document entitled Tennessee SitRep, which stated that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Adam Carey and others had surveilled Williams confirmed her address
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and vehicle, confirmed that Landway had been staying at the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: same address, and advised that Carry and others would use
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: everything at their disposal to stop the attempted extortion of
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Eric Mond. It's exactly what Robert Crispin said. The electronic
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: trail these idgets are leaving behind is damning. Take a
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: listen to our cut twelve crime online. On March eleven,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Gilpilled deposited eight thousand dollars in cash into
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Spear Tip Security's business account and seven thousand dollars in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: cash into his personal bank account. The following day, Eric
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Mahn transferred one hundred and fifty thousand dollars via wire
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: from his bank account to a bank account controlled by Pilled.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: On that same day, Brian Brockway and Adam Carey, armed
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with firearms, confronted Holly Williams and William Landway in the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: parking lot of William's apartment complex in West Nashville. They
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: murdered Landway by shooting him several times. They then kidnapped
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Williams and drove her and the body of Landway to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a construction site on Old Hickory Boulevard in West Nashville,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: where they then murdered Williams by shooting her several times.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: The bodies were then discarded at the construction site, and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: within hours of the murders, the PingER account used to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: communicate was deleted and a rental car rented by Brockway
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: was returned. Carry then drove Brockway to Memphis, Tennessee, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Brockway caught a flight to Austin, Texas. Adam Carey then
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: drove to Austin from Memphis Wow Tony pl joining me
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Kvue and Austin American Statesman. The electronic trail
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: these idiots leave behind is overwhelming, and it indicates that Mond,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the rich husband the car dealership air, was willing to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to two hitmen
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to kill his lover, Holly Williams and her strange boyfriend.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're dead in the water based on all
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: this evidence. Yeah, I mean, when you look at the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: totality of everything, I mean, my goodness, the high dollar,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: very high dollar bank transaction, the electronic communication between all
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: four of these players sophisticated, It was not I mean
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with a lot of money, but we're not
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of sophistication, a lot of brains. No,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of money, yes for those of you just
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: joining us. A high profile businessman the Air to a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: car dealership dynasty, charged with paying hitman seven hundred and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars to murder his mistress and her boyfriend
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: after the ex boyfriend threatens to tell his wife about
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the sex affair. Lessen Our Cut thirteen Fox seven. Three
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: men from Austin or facing charges and a murder for
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: higher plot connected to the brutal killings of a couple
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in Nashville. Police arrested these men on Friday. Forty six
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: year old day Eric Charles Mound, a partner at Manda
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Automotive Group, a dealership company founded by his father. Forty
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: seven year old Gilead Pouline, a former member of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Israeli Defense Forces and owner of Spear Tip Security in Austin,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and forty six year old Brian Brockway, a former Marine
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and owner of Austin security company Ink Force. A fourth
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: man from North Carolina was also arrested. According to the indictment,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: man would travel to Nashville, often, where he would occasionally
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: meet with thirty three year old Holly Williams. Her boyfriend,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: William Landway, threatened to expose their relationship if monde, who's married,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and did not pay up. In March of twenty twenty,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: police began looking for suspects after the bodies of Williams
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and Landway were found at a construction site in Nashville.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Detective say Mond hired the other men to kidnap the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: couple and kill them for about seven hundred and fifty
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. To you, del Carson, why do I always
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: here injected that they were with Israeli military. What does
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that mean? Well, because really military is very well trained,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and if the idea, then there's a supposition that they're
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: better than anybody else. I have known several of them
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to be in the United States. But that's like saying
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you're a sniper at a bar. It's often not true.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: What about it, Crispin, what's the mistake about being in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the Israeli military. I think it's just bragging rights for
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: those guys so they can get business. And clearly, you
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: know this guy went to them to hire them, so
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you know you you go to hire somebody, You go
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to hire an investigator, You go to hire, you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a security firm. You go to their website. Let's look
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: at their resume, let's look at their bragging rights. You know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you don't want to hire somebody their hitman website. Listen,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: these guys took it to a level that we've never seen,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: haven't to They got greedy, doctor Kimball Crowns. You called
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it at the get go that something was way off.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: What about it, Karen start, he's willing to pay seven
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars to have two people murderers.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Nancy, why don't just tell your wife, Look,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I screwed up. I had an affair and then let
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the chips fall where they may. That would have been
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: better than this. All the money, Yeah, that would have
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: split all the money. Of course, you're right, del Cars
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And what about it, Karen? You know what if that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: were the case, then a lot of people would be
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: out of a job. Because yes, it's very easy to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just say, look this happened and I made a mistake.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But people don't do that. They're stupid. They think, okay,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw a lot of money at this
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and see if I could get rid of the people,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and I'll shave myself from this embarrassment. It doesn't happen.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: How many times have we seen that the minute that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you talked to somebody else and try to set up
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: any kind of murder, you're going to get caught. It's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: going to happen. There's going to be some kind of trail.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: It's human nature. Tony Plahatsky. Where does the case stand now?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So all four of these men have been indicted federally
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and they are sitting in federal detention facilities. None of them,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: by the way, have have thought to have their their
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: bond reduced at this point. So they're incarcerated. What charges?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: What federal charges? Murder, conspiracy, whole, a whole number of charges. Actually, well,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: conspiracy is the actual main one, because man is subject
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to that. If he didn't actually participate directly in the murder,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: he certainly started up. Well under the law, if they're
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: going to be prosecuted where they were killed in Nashville,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: setting up a murder makes you guilty of a murder
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: just because you didn't pull the trigger yourself. If you're
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the mastermind, you're going down for murder. And the last
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: time I looked at Tennessee, don't they still unless you're
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: stomping grounds. Don't they still have the death penalty? Yeah?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I think I'd let the Tennessee prosecutor take care of that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Forget about the interstate murder. Well, I like the way
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you're thinking. However, the local authorities could prosecute them for murder.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: There is a murder at the state level. The FENSI
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: bigfoot at it and trying to get them on other charges.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But I'd go for the tried and true murder slash
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: death penalty route. But that's just me. Hey, let's see
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: where this thing lands. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: boyfriend