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“Dudes, You Killed That Dude”: The Inmate Account That Raised New Questions About Guards at MCC · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of The
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  Epstein Chronicles. Over the past couple of weeks, we've been
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  talking a lot about Jeffrey Epstein's death and the circumstances
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  surrounding it. And look, I'm not exactly what you would
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  call a conspiracy theorist, but I have no idea how
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  anyone can look at what happened with Jeffrey Epstein's death
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  and not have serious questions and serious reservations about the
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  official narrative that we've been fed. And whereas before we
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  had some thoughts about what happened, but there really wasn't
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  much to back it up. But now that we have
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  those OIG interviews and we're getting some more information about
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  people who were on the scene right in the aftermath
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  of this, and some of the inmates that were around
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  when Jeffrey Epstein was losing his life, and up until recently,
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  we didn't have any of this information really, and to
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  be honest with you, I'm shocked by how much we're
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  learning about the circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death. And when
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  you start putting all the pieces together, it would certainly
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  appear to me that the narrative that we've been fed
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  is just a bunch of bs. So today we have
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  an article from the Miami Herald and the headline prison
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  guard discussed cover up of Epstein's death, inmate tells FBI.
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  This article was authored by Julie K. Brown. An inmate
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  housed at Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, told the
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  FBI he overheard guards talking about covering up Jeffrey Epstein's
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  death on the morning that he died. I mean, there
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  is so much going on here that it's very hard
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  to keep it all together, right. You have to really
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  be on your game to have all these ducks in
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  a row, especially considering the piece way we're getting this information.
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  So that's why we document it the way we do.
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  It's like an ongoing show, right where if you miss
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  one episode, you're going to be behind. And there's so
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  much information that's coming out now, especially with the drop,
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  that you have to eat the elephant one bite at
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  a time. So for me, we're going to be focusing
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  on Jeffrey Epstein's death and the circumstances surrounding it over
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  the next few weeks because there's still so much to
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  get to. We have the Tovin Nowell deposition. We're still
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  going through. We have depositions from other people that were
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  there that night, the electrical engineer, the captain, the lieutenant.
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  People we have never heard from before. So my suggestion
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  is make sure you get yourself some refreshments, a nice
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  cold drink, something a munch on, because we got quite
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  the journey. The Federal Governments Online Epstein Library contains a
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  five page handwritten report of an f I interview with
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  an inmate who awoke the morning of August tenth, twenty nineteen,
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  to the loud commotion in the Special Housing Unit or
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  shoe where he and Epstein were jailed. Breathe, breathe. He
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  recalled officers shouting at about six thirty am. Then he
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  said he heard an officer say, dudes, you killed that dude.
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  And look, under normal circumstances, we could write this off right,
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  We could say that this was, you know, negligence of duty.
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  Tauvin Oell and Michael Thomas they were just overworked and
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  they were very tired on this shift, and they both
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  decided to fall asleep at the exact same time. Okay, fine,
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  that's what you want to pitch to me? Cool I
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  don't believe it, but at least that's based somewhere in reality.
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  It's all this other stuff that we're learning that doesn't fit.
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  And when we're talking about Tovin Oel, especially where did
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  all this money come from that she was getting. There
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  was never any kind of forensic look at where this
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  money originated and why it ended up in her account.
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  I mean, if anybody out there wants to send me
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  eleven thousand dollars, I'd love to receive it. What I
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  don't want to sit on the internet all day and
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  look at motorcycles and couches. Sounds like a pretty good time,
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  but when it comes to what happened in that facility, Look,
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  I got a lot of questions about Tovin Oel especially, sorry,
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  but I do now. I'm not going to say that
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  she's the one who did it. But none of this
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  makes sense. None of it's ever made sense, and it
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  boggles my mind that people are so willing to just
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  accept this official narrative that they pitched to us. A
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  female guard replied, if he's dead, we're going to cover
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  it up and he's going to have an alibi. My officers,
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  the FBI notes said the n may claim the whole thing,
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  the whole wing overheard the exchange, and I don't doubt
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  it when we go through those depositions the way we are.
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  Does it shock you that Toauven Oell and Michael Thomas
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  are liars. I don't know. I don't recall the basic stuff.
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  Oh is there a hot list? Oh? What's that? Hey?
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  What's policy while you're working in the shoe? Oh? I
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  have no idea. I've only worked there four thousand times
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  and they got away with that shit. Do you think
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  you would have gotten away with it? I know I
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  wouldn't have my luck fuck that. I walk around with
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  a fucking cloud over my head if something can go
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  wrong for me, that shit goes wrong, you know, the
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  saying waiting for the other shoe to drop. I live
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  by that shit. But I guess if you're Tovin o Weell,
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  no big deal guy can die on your watch. You
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  can get a bunch of money, You'll get a deferred sentence,
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  and nobody will ask any questions. God bless America. Later,
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  after learning Epstein had died, he said inmates said, miss
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  Noel kill Jeffrey. Yo again, Look this is what these
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  inmates are saying and if any of those inmates that
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  were on that wing are out there, or you know,
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  any of those inmates that were on that wing, I
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  would love to talk to them. I would love to
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  talk to them, because there's a lot we can learn
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  here still, and unfortunately we can't rely on the official
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  channels to shoot us straight. So we have to get
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  creative and we have to figure out, you know, what's
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  what a real narrative, a real story, what did people see?
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  A full investigation. I know I'm asking a lot here.
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  He identified the female guard as Tovin o Well, one
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  of two correctional officers who were later charged with falsifying
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  reports so that it appeared from their records that they
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  had made the rounds that night when they had not.
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  The charges against her and the other officer, Michael Thomas,
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  were later dropped, but both were fired. Well, that makes
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  everything better, Like they just fucked up your order over
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  at in and out. Yeah, okay, you get fired for that.
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  Not this should probably go to jail. And I don't
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  know about you, folks, but I find it wholly unacceptable
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  the way that both Tovin o Well and Michael Thomas
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  acted during those interviews, and it just blows me away
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  that people can get away with that shit. And when
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  I tell you that these depositions that they're giving in
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  front of Congress are a theater, this is what I mean.
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  There's no teeth. Congress has to have some teeth, and
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  either there needs to be a special counsel or a
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  special committee or something, because what's happening right now completely unacceptable.
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  The inmates account has not been substantiated, but it nevertheless
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  raises questions about Epstein's in custody death. Both the New
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  York Medical Examiner and the US Department of Justice concluded
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  that Epstein died by suicide. Well, we're going to dive
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  into that actual report today, the actual medical Examiner's report.
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  I got my hands on that too, and like usual,
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  I'm going to share it with all of you unadult
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  traded so that you can form an opinion for yourself.
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  Doctor Michael Boden, a forensic pathologist hired by Epstein's estate
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  to attend the autopsy, has said he believes the injuries
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  to Epstein were more akin to strangulation than suicide. And
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  I'm more apt to believe doctor Boden, considering his experience
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  in this realm. But of course he has motivation to say,
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  you know, Epstein died too, right, So there's a lot
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  going on here. I won't dispute that he was hired
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  by the family, you know, so there's certainly an argument
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  to be made. The big problem for me is I
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  don't trust the officials involved in the case, so I
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  don't trust their narrative any of it. I feel like
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  it's all fugeesy and that when we go through the report,
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  you're gonna see why. But the FBI report is likely
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  to fan suspicion, as The New York Post also reported
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  on Saturday that Noel's bank flagged a five thousand dollars
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  cash deposit she made to her Chase Bank account on
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  July thirtieth, twenty nineteen, a week after Epstein was found
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  in his cell and what prison officials concluded was a
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  suicide attempt. On July twenty third, twenty nineteen. The official
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  reports into the incident showed that Epstein initially told prison
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  officials that his cellmate had tried to kill him after
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  extorting them for money. That tracks what have I told
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  you about Nicholas TARTAGLIONI from the very beginning, And there's
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  some lady out here now running around talking all kinds
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  of wild about how Nicholas Tartaglioni is some kind of victim.
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  Are you for real? Did you not listen to his trial?
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  He was a murderer, murdered four men over drugs. Sure
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  the people he murdered drug dealers too. Does that mean
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  he should get off? Of course not. The guy's an
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  absolute scombag, a whole last career of corruption. So why
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  was he in a cell with Jeffrey Epstein in the
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  first place. Nobody's ever answered that question, Who signed off
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  on that, who made that decision, and why. The Post
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  also reported that on the morning of Epstein's death on
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  August tenth, Noel searched the term latest on Epstein in
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  jail twice, once at five forty two am and again
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  at five point fifty two am, about forty minutes before
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  the other guard, Michael Thomas, found Epstein. Well, is she
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  the one who contacted four chan and reported this thirty
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  eight minutes before the news broke? I mean at this point,
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  who else could it be? Her? Bank records, which are
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  in the files, showed that Noel received thousands of dollars
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  in cash and ze payments in the months before Epstein died.
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  She has not been charged with any crime. The Miami
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  Herald was unsuccessful in reaching her attorney on Saturday. Well, yeah,
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  she's not gonna say shit. She got away with it.
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  You think she's gonna wrat herself out now, zero chance.
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  Look how evasive she was in that interview, and look
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  at how quick her union rep stepped in to try and,
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  you know, smooth things over. It's all just a big joke,
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  a gigantic jack off, That's what it is. And frankly,
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  I'm tired of it. Epstein's former cellmate, Ephren Reyes, told
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  prison officials that he told Epstein he would be safer
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  if he paid inmates and guards for protection. Sources have
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  told The Herald that Epstein did make protection payments. Well
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  what do you know? So the next question is who
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  are those payments made to? And why you mean to
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  tell me they don't have that information? Huh yeah, okay sure.
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  Noell's bank records also revealed that she was making payments
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  on a brand new Range Rover. A Range Rover for
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  a prison guard, a corrections officer. You know, I'm in
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  the wrong business. Maybe I should go and become some
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  kind of prison guard, a range rover. Fucking kidne me
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  right now, But she was not asked about the cash
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  during her DOJ interview. Epstein had three fractures on the
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  left and right side of his larnix, and Boden said
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  it's rare for any bones to be broken in a hanging,
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  let alone multiple bones to be fractured. Those fractures are
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  extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more
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  commonly in homicidal strangulation, said Boden, who added that there
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  were hemorrhages in Epstein's eyes that are also more common
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  in strangulation than in hangings. The DOJ's official death investigation
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  noted that none of the inmates who were interviewed had
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  any credible information suggesting Epstein's cause of death with something
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  other than suicide. Well, don't be silly. They knew the
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  results of the investigation before they even started. This was
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  all by design. They knew what the deal was and
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  they covered it up. That's what I believe. Now. Look,
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  I'm not telling anybody else that that's what they have
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  to believe. But I think that I've made my case,
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  and I think I've laid out the evidence to back
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  up what I'm saying. The investigation also concluded that three
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  interviewed inmates with a direct line of sight into epstein
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  cell door stated that no one entered or exited epstein
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  cell after Epstein was locked into his cell the night before. Well,
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  that's very possible too, And if that's the case, then
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  it fits with what I think that Tartaglioni was there
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  to pass a message onto Epstein. Look, bro, either you
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  do it or we will. We can reach out and
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  touch you at any time. Look at this, So either
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  you get your shit right, get your last will in
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  order handle your business, and we're gonna give you that
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  one last bonus if you will. But if not, you
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  can expect somebody like Nicholas Tartaglioni in your cell again,
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  choking the goddamn daylights out of you. And in my opinion,
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  that's always been right at the top of the list
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  as to what happened in that cell. It's very possible
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  that Epstein took his own life, but not because he
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  wanted to, but because he was told that if he
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  didn't do it, they were going to do it for him. So, look,
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  there's still a lot going on here, right, And I'm
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  not saying that that's absolutely what happened, but I think
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  that that is a very likely scenario when you put
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  all the pieces together. And so that's what we're gonna
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  keep doing, and the next step will be taking a
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  look at the medical Examiner's report that we just got
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  our hands on, and of course we're still going through
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  the Touvin Noel deposition as well, So, like usual, plenty
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  to get to. And as you're a guide on this journey,
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  please keep your hands and your feet in the vehicle
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  at all times, and whatever you do, don't feed the animals.
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