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The Muster Full Show: 11/09/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster. Andy Muir here
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  Speaker 1: and the show is brought to you by Peters Genetics
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  Speaker 1: on a Friday. Welcome along. An overcast sky greets us
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  Speaker 1: here in Gore. We'll look at the weather shortly in
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  Speaker 1: detail with Phil Duncan of Weather Watch. But before we
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  Speaker 1: go any further as well, shout out to Abans Agriculture.
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  Speaker 1: They're already 25 years in the game today, so... Everybody involved,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Janine and everyone. Yeah, well done. Congratulations. Awesome to
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  Speaker 1: see these businesses continue through in the capacity that they are.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, a bit to get through for the hour.
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  Speaker 1: Crank straight into it. This song here, Sweet Home Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Bit of an institution in pub anthem circles, I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner.
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  Speaker 2: Sing about it.
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  Speaker 3: This afternoon, rain with breezy westerlies in 10.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday, morning showers with breezy westerlies 7 and 10. Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: showers with westerlies 5 and 12. Monday, cloudy with west-north
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  Speaker 1: westerlies 5 and 16. And Tuesday, partly cloudy with west-north
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  Speaker 1: westerlies 7 and 17. Soil temperatures... Clinton 5.7, Heri at 7.3,
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  Speaker 1: Northern Southland 7.4, Winton 9, Te Anau 6.9, Titarao 7.7,
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  Speaker 1: Winton 6 and Woodland 7.4. What are we? Currently in Gorse,
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  Speaker 1: sitting on 12 degrees. Double digits is good. Jamie Mackay
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  Speaker 1: joins us in the country crossover for a Friday, followed
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  Speaker 1: up by Phil Duncan of Weatherwatch, looking at the forecast
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  Speaker 1: for the next seven days down here in the Deep South.
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  Speaker 1: Nigel Whitehead farming in South Otago between Balclutha and Milton,
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  Speaker 1: getting organised for lambing. We'll see how the feed covers
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  Speaker 1: and life in general is with Nige. Mark Kelly, Newstalk
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  Speaker 1: ZB producer and Bay of Plenty steamers rugby diehard. Has
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  Speaker 1: a chat ahead of the Stags playing the Bay of
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  Speaker 1: Plenty on Sunday, but as well the Warriors playing the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: in their first game of the finals tomorrow at Mount
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  Speaker 1: Smart Stadium. And James McNamee, all going to plan. He's
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  Speaker 1: joining us from over in New York where he's just
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  Speaker 1: landed as he's going to watch the All Blacks in
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore play the Springboks on Sunday morning. So without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: we'll crank straight into it with Jamie Mackay. This is
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  Speaker 1: The Muster brought to you by Peters Genetics. The Country Crossover,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by Bioactive Soils. Growing together with healthy soils.
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  Speaker 1: Become a proactive farmer with Bioactive Ag Fertiliser. Jamie Mackay
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  Speaker 1: joins us for The Country Crossover, thanks to Bioactive Soils.
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  Speaker 1: He's been absent for a while, but he's back in
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat. Welcome back, Jamie.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you. What do I call you? I am.
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  Speaker 1: I am in the PM on the FM.
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  Speaker 5: It's good to be back. Three weeks of influenza A
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  Speaker 5: for a man who famously never gets sick. It just
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  Speaker 5: about bowled me over, Andy. I woke up in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of the night one night and I was gasping
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  Speaker 5: for air and I had this horrible thought, is this
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  Speaker 5: how it ends?
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  Speaker 4: Surely not.
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  Speaker 5: But it's really knocked me and I'm not 100% yet,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm getting there. And I have to keep reminding
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  Speaker 5: myself it's not cancer, so you just battle on. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm just thankful, to be perfectly honest, Andy. I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: or I'm not a farmer because I remember being a
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  Speaker 5: young farmer, you might have a flu or be a
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  Speaker 5: bit crook. But if it's lambing time, you just get
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  Speaker 5: out there and do it and battle your way through it.
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  Speaker 5: I physically couldn't have done that. And I feel very,
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  Speaker 5: very sorry for any farmer or business person or anyone
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  Speaker 5: for that matter who suffered through influenza A.
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  Speaker 4: It's quite brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good to have you back on deck, mate. Look,
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  Speaker 1: the weather has been interesting. Well, not interesting, it's been concerning.
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  Speaker 1: This El Nino flow that we're seeing is certainly kicking
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  Speaker 1: into gear.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, and this is playing exactly to script.
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  Speaker 5: This is going to be the third, I think, terrible.
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  Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong here, Andy, but what are we now?
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  Speaker 5: We're almost halfway through September, September the 11th, 9-11. We
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  Speaker 5: might come back to that one. So this is playing
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  Speaker 5: to script, isn't it? it's getting drier, although Canterbury got
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  Speaker 5: a good rain and Marlborough got a good rain. They
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  Speaker 5: were getting very dry recently. But for Southland, this is
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  Speaker 5: just a shit of a spring. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: my worry is that we're wet, wet, wet, wet, and
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  Speaker 5: then we get to Labour weekend and it dries up,
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  Speaker 5: especially in the drier parts of Southland, if you want,
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  Speaker 5: northern Southland, and then we go dry. But September's obviously
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  Speaker 5: an incredibly busy, important month. The dairy farmers are getting
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  Speaker 5: into their second round. Sheep farmers are obviously lambing. If
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  Speaker 5: you're not growing grass, some of that production you never
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  Speaker 5: catch up on.
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  Speaker 1: On your show on Wednesday, Mark Delatour, boss of Open Country,
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  Speaker 1: gave one of the more defining interviews that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to hear on radio from a rural lens for a while.
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  Speaker 5: It was really interesting. He was saving this one up.
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  Speaker 5: He was meant to do it a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 5: but I was off crook. He said, I'll wait till
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  Speaker 5: you get back. So he was all fired up and
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  Speaker 5: he's really created quite a stir. And for those who
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  Speaker 5: didn't hear it, I mean, the basic synopsis of it, Andy,
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  Speaker 5: for you blokes from Belfort, that means summary.
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  Speaker 4: I shouldn't say that, should I?
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  Speaker 1: You just did. You always do.
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  Speaker 4: I just did. I always do.
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  Speaker 5: So it's friendly rivalry. But I mean, the guts of
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  Speaker 5: it was he's saying, forget about Paris. forget about us
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  Speaker 5: being blacklisted, if you want, by some of these markets.
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  Speaker 5: He said there's plenty of demand. And he's talking, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: wearing his dairy hat. I'm not sure the argument's quite
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  Speaker 5: the same with the meat, but wearing his dairy hat,
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  Speaker 5: he said there's plenty of markets that will take us
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  Speaker 5: and we need to.
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  Speaker 4: Be out of Paris.
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  Speaker 5: And the interesting thing about Paris, and I heard Bryce
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  Speaker 5: McKenzie talking about this as well, it kind of, the
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  Speaker 5: rural communities split on this. this is my take on
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  Speaker 5: it anyhow, Andy, is split on Paris. Some people want
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  Speaker 5: us in, some people want us out. And the other one, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: Labour came out at the beginning of the week with
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  Speaker 5: their ag emissions policy. They're not going to price ag emissions.
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  Speaker 5: And I think almost everyone in agriculture is in unison
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  Speaker 5: on that subject. So they are a couple of really
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  Speaker 5: hot topics heading into the election. We've already seen the
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  Speaker 5: likes of ACT and New Zealand First.
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  Speaker 4: Don't want a.
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  Speaker 5: Bar of Paris. National want to stay in, want us
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  Speaker 5: to stay in. Labour want us to stay in. God
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  Speaker 5: knows what Te Paati, or the Greens, I don't even
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  Speaker 5: know what they think about ag farming. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: they think much about it at all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Luxembourg wants to stay in. Winnie and Seymour want
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  Speaker 1: to get out. How's that going to work out in
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  Speaker 1: a coalition agreement then? Because this has got, would it
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  Speaker 1: become a bottom line perhaps?
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  Speaker 4: I'd say no.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's just it. I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 5: to become a bottom line agreement. for either Seymour and Winston.
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  Speaker 5: You want to talk about bottom lines? Bottom lines are
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  Speaker 5: things like, for Winston, the age of eligibility for National Super.
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  Speaker 5: He will die in the ditch on that one. And
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  Speaker 5: that's a very important subject also for New Zealand, and
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  Speaker 5: it's an issue that we've got to face going forward.
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  Speaker 5: So those are bottom lines. Those are ones which would
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  Speaker 5: make Winston switch camps.
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  Speaker 4: Evan, help us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, based on that, these polls are all over the show,
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  Speaker 1: one coming out earlier in the week saying that Labour's
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  Speaker 1: well down, another one coming out a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: later saying they're a bit up on that poll that
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  Speaker 1: was released earlier in the week. But I think all
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  Speaker 1: these polls that are coming out, I mean, the one
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  Speaker 1: thing you're seeing is that the uncertainty about November is
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  Speaker 1: that votes are still up for grabs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think what you're finding is because Labour's
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  Speaker 5: been so useless and listless when it comes to policy announcement.
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  Speaker 5: They've had their capital gains and that's about it. And
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  Speaker 5: I felt sorry for Jo Luxton in that Q &
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  Speaker 5: A rural leaders debate. They should have fed her their
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  Speaker 5: ag emissions pricing announcement because I think they released that
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  Speaker 5: on the Monday or the Tuesday following that show which
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  Speaker 5: was broadcast on a Sunday. She was hung out to
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  Speaker 5: dry in that rural leaders debate.
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  Speaker 4: But look, I think Labour are paying the price.
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  Speaker 5: The Greens, whether you love them or loathe them, and
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  Speaker 5: I loathe them, at least they're coming out with policy,
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  Speaker 5: and they're picking up the slack, I'm sure, from the
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  Speaker 5: Labour voters. For me, and this is rather simplistic, I
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  Speaker 5: think that the Opportunity Party bubble has burst. People are
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  Speaker 5: really starting to do some homework on this lot, and
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  Speaker 5: they are flaky. But if they do manage, if they
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  Speaker 5: do manage to get past that 5% threshold, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't think they will, I hope they won't, a change
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  Speaker 5: of government is on. But If they don't get past 5%,
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  Speaker 5: I can't see a change of government happening.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you're coming down to Invercargill this weekend. Murray Heath
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  Speaker 1: on the show a couple of days ago. Great yarn
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  Speaker 1: as well regarding the 1970s Southland rugby team. Having a
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  Speaker 1: get-together this weekend, Dan. Southland be full-back from Riversdale's EMC.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, normally when it comes to EMCing, Andy.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't do that much these days, but I've
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  Speaker 5: done a lot over the years, people phone you up
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  Speaker 5: and say, would you like to emcee these awards or something?
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  Speaker 5: How much do you want? In my case, it all
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  Speaker 5: goes to the IHC Carfan Rural Scheme these days, so
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  Speaker 5: I always put my hand out quite a way, and
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  Speaker 5: no one's ever said no, which is wonderful. So normally,
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  Speaker 5: someone rings you up and says, would you like to
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  Speaker 5: emcee this event? You say yes, and you agree on
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  Speaker 5: an amount.
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  Speaker 4: This was different.
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  Speaker 5: I saw Murray Heath's Facebook post way back when he
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  Speaker 5: first started talking about this and I just rang him
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  Speaker 5: up and said, hey Murray, do you want an MC?
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  Speaker 5: I'm very, very cheap. How much will it cost me
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  Speaker 5: to MC this event? Because look, Andy, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: these guys, and this is from 1970 to 1980, so
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  Speaker 5: It spans me being at primary school, all through secondary school,
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  Speaker 5: and then my final years in that decade at university. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, some of these guys were absolute heroes of mine.
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  Speaker 5: And I do give Balfour a bit of stick occasionally.
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  Speaker 5: I love Balfour, but my hero from era was Kenny Stewart,
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  Speaker 5: who I was lucky enough to play against when he
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  Speaker 5: was near the end of his rugby career. And then
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  Speaker 5: He coached our northern senior sub-union rugby team for three
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  Speaker 5: or four seasons, so I got to know him really well. But, gee,
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  Speaker 5: he was a great player. And then you chuck in
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  Speaker 5: Lester Rutledge, Brian McKechnie's another.
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  Speaker 4: Hero of mine.
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  Speaker 5: Who else was an All Black in that lot? Bob Barber,
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  Speaker 5: Stephen Pokiri, and, of course, Ash McGregor, who coached us.
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  Speaker 5: I played against Ash, Andy. I had one game for
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  Speaker 5: the Riversdale Seniors when I was in the seventh form.
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  Speaker 4: Ash McGregor smashed me.
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  Speaker 5: Because I thought I was the bee's knees, but I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't really. And then I played a wee bit against him,
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  Speaker 5: and then he came back as the Riversdale coach. And
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  Speaker 5: when I moved to Gore, he was my next-door neighbour,
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  Speaker 5: and I used to use his woolshed to shear my sheep.
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  Speaker 4: Great bloke, Ash McGregor. Really unlucky.
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  Speaker 5: He went on that 78 tour to the UK, only
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  Speaker 5: got three games. May have been a wee bit small
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  Speaker 5: to be an All Black No. 8, but my goodness.
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  Speaker 5: when it came to Southland, he was a beast. And
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  Speaker 5: when it came to club rugby, even though Ken Stewart
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  Speaker 5: was a great All Black, I know who was the
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  Speaker 5: better club rugby player, Ash McGregor, just dominated. And of course,
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  Speaker 5: it would be remiss of me not to mention Lester
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  Speaker 5: Rutledge and what a great player he was for Southland
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  Speaker 5: and what a great servant he was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Stacks could do with a bit of that
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  Speaker 1: calibre on Sunday, logic suggests. Hey, 9-11 as well, what
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  Speaker 1: are your memories?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I remember 9-11 quite well. Obviously, 2001, I was
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  Speaker 5: down at Hokanui. For some reason, I'd scheduled to have
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  Speaker 5: that day off. I was going to do, I think
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  Speaker 5: I was going to get my sheep from the duck
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  Speaker 5: pond up in Riversdale, bring them down and share them.
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  Speaker 5: I was giving myself a day off. And then at
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  Speaker 5: about one in the morning, one or two in the morning,
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  Speaker 5: I got a phone call from from Nick Jeffrey, who
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  Speaker 5: was working with us at Hokanui at the time. And
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  Speaker 5: he said, hey, mate, you better get up and turn
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  Speaker 5: your telly on because his grandmother had just phoned him
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  Speaker 5: up and said something's happening. And I turned on the
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  Speaker 5: television at about one or two in the morning, whatever
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  Speaker 5: time it was, New Zealand time, and was just transfixed. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: the day off didn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: It was surreal.
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  Speaker 5: And I was talking to to Winston Peters about this
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  Speaker 5: on yesterday's show. Andy, it's the biggest event in world history,
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  Speaker 5: in my mind, since the Second World War. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it surpasses Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis
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  Speaker 5: and all the crap that we've had between 1945 and now.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was a moment or two moments or
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  Speaker 5: three moments, if you catch the plane that went into
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  Speaker 5: the Pentagon, that absolutely changed the world. It changed the
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  Speaker 5: way we live. It changed the way we travel. It
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  Speaker 5: just changed the world full stop. You could not write
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  Speaker 5: a script like that.
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  Speaker 1: Good on you, Jamie. We'll leave it there. All the
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  Speaker 1: best down at the big gig for the weekend and
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  Speaker 1: up the stags.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go the stags.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that they're going to be inspired by
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  Speaker 5: some of those guys, some of those old Southland players
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  Speaker 5: from the 70s are going to go in and give
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  Speaker 5: them a bit of pep talk. And I think Southland could...
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  Speaker 5: get their season, or reboot their season with a good
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  Speaker 5: win over Bay of Plenty.
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Mackay and the Country Crossover cheers to bioactive soils.
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  Speaker 1: Phil Duncan's up next to give us a rundown on
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  Speaker 1: the weather. Welcome back to the muster. Phil Duncan of
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  Speaker 1: Weatherwatch joins us.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm here to remind you of the Good afternoon Phil.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: I got a message from a mate the other day
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  Speaker 1: after we spoke last week. His first name is Nathan.
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  Speaker 1: We'll leave it at that. And Nathan was saying, when
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  Speaker 1: the hell are we going to get a decent forecast?
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  Speaker 1: Tell your mate not to come back onto the radio
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  Speaker 1: until we get it sorted. But also ask him, have
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  Speaker 1: we genuinely seen a moving of the seasons in the south?
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  Speaker 6: That's a very good question. I think at the moment
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  Speaker 6: we're still very much in the early phases of spring.
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  Speaker 6: And for Southland, that means that you probably still have
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  Speaker 6: more days that are colder than they are warmer. But
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  Speaker 6: that usually changes over the next four weeks and it
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  Speaker 6: switches the other way around. You end up with more
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  Speaker 6: days that are warmer and fewer days that are colder.
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  Speaker 6: So that's probably my advice. And as far as wanting
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  Speaker 6: to look at some warm weather on the way, let's
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  Speaker 6: just focus on Tuesday of next week and ignore every
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  Speaker 6: other day of the week. And then we'll have a
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  Speaker 6: a very positive forecast for you.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose when you say cooler weather, are we going
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  Speaker 1: to get the wind chill? You can handle 10 degrees
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  Speaker 1: if you're not getting that westerly or that easterly.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the wind chill is in there at times over
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  Speaker 6: the coming week. It's going to be particularly colder. We're
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  Speaker 6: not talking about a major cold outbreak, but it will
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  Speaker 6: be colder as we go into this afternoon. Temperatures are dropping.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, in Gore today, the temperatures started to drop
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  Speaker 6: From a forecasting point of view, you know, normally you
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  Speaker 6: look at the graph and it usually goes up in
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  Speaker 6: the afternoon and then drops down as you go closer
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  Speaker 6: towards sunset. But today, that temperature starts to drop during
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  Speaker 6: the middle of the afternoon, a sign of some colder weather.
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  Speaker 6: So a little bit colder going into tomorrow. There's nothing
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  Speaker 6: really major from a wind chill point of view. But
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  Speaker 6: next week, around Wednesday p.m. through to Friday p.m., So
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  Speaker 6: that 48-hour period at the end of next week, it
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  Speaker 6: does look a bit cold there. And that's where the
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  Speaker 6: wind chill is often between sort of zero and five
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  Speaker 6: degrees any time of the day or night. So that's
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  Speaker 6: a bit of a colder spell later next week.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what we're just going to get for the
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  Speaker 1: remainder of September? Everything's just uncertain because normally about this
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  Speaker 1: time of year, we're starting to see a bit of
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  Speaker 1: decent growth.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been warmer in a number of areas, but
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  Speaker 6: that doesn't necessarily translate to grass growth just yet. The
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  Speaker 6: days also need to get longer, which they are rapidly
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  Speaker 6: doing now. In fact, I think by the start of
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  Speaker 6: next week, there is nowhere in New Zealand that has
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  Speaker 6: sun setting before 6pm, unless you live on the Chatham Islands.
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  Speaker 7: So everyone will.
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  Speaker 6: The last part of New Zealand to get to.
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  Speaker 7: That point is Gisborne.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think they've reached that point in the
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  Speaker 6: next couple of days. So that means you guys further southwards,
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  Speaker 6: your days are already getting longer than they are up
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  Speaker 6: in the North Island. So that's better for pasture growth,
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: but you just need that extra bit of warmth, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: we're just not quite there yet. That's why quite a
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: lot of farmers and growers don't really say that the
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: seasons have changed until we get to that astronomical date.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: So that will be the spring equinox, and that is
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: not very far away from now. That's only just over
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: a week and a bit away. So once we get
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: to about the 22nd, 23rd of September, that is when
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: we are, you know, in all different ways of measuring it,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: we're definitely into spring. But if you go with the
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: astronomical calendar, we're still technically in the very end of
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: winter at the moment. Hence why your grass is not
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: growing perfectly just yet.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: This weather cycle is going to continue then, although it
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: will be getting warmer, arguably.
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we are seeing some warmer trends coming through, not
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: just around New Zealand, but over in Australia. And in fact,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks around New Zealand have been
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: warmer than average in every region. And a lot of
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: people don't always understand that because it can feel cold.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: So you, as a human being, feeling warm or cold
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: is irrelevant to whether or not it's warmer or cooler
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: than average. And so we've had a number of regions
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: across the country being up to two degrees above normal.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: And to give you an idea of how much that
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: is over a two-week period... That is as far as
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: the key goes on the map. It goes to two
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: degrees above normal and beyond. So we've seen a lot
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: of the country sort of Canterbury up to Waikato in
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: that two degrees warmer than average category. You guys are
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: down around about a degree above normal. And if it
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: doesn't feel warm, quite often when you do have a
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: warmer than average period of time, that often is at nighttime.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: So you might have noticed a reduction in frosty conditions,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: perhaps more so than previous years. And that could be
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: all it is that boosts your temperatures up to be
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: above normal.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So no frosts or anything to worry about? Arguably, frosts
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: give you a warm day afterwards.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't really see a lot of frost coming up,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: but there is a little bit of a chance next
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: week when we see those temperatures drop. Thursday next week,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: you're down to three degrees. You're down to four degrees tonight.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: So that means some areas further inland or a little
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: bit higher up could be looking at getting close to
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: a frost. But I think any frosts that form this
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: week will be very, very light over the next 10 days.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Just to wrap up, 9-11, what are your memories?
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: I've got strong memories of 9-11 because at the time
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: I had my fiancée was living, she had gone back
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: to Canada. She was Canadian and had been in New
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Zealand for a year and she flew back one week
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: before 9-11 happened. And so it was a very scary
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: moment because the borders all around the world pretty much
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: shut down and you couldn't travel certainly into North America.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: And so it was a little tough having the love
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: of my life living on another side.
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: Of the world.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: And on top of that, her flight, you know, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: fly from Auckland to Los Angeles and then Los Angeles
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: to Toronto. And the flight from Los Angeles to Toronto
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: the very next week was escorted back to L.A. with
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: fighter jets because a man was in the toilet smoking
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: a cigarette and he wouldn't come out. And they assumed
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: that it was a terrorist. So they got the fighter
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: jet scrambled. So it was a really kind of weird
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: time for me back then.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Phil. Always appreciate your time on
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the muster. You enjoy the weekend.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: You too, mate, and look forward to Tuesday next week
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: when it's 18 degrees.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Phil Duncan of Weather Watch. Go and follow him on
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: his social channels. YouTube as well does a great job
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: looking at the seven-day forecast for us down here in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the Deep South. Nigel Wood heads up next based in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: South Otago. You're listening to The Muster.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: So he creeps into this house and unlocks the door.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the muster, we're away to South Otago
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: now between Barclutha and Milton where we catch up with
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Nigel Woodhead, 2017 FMG Young Farmer of the Year and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: he's up on this hilltops this afternoon, g'day Nig.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, afternoon Andy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You're battling the elements as well as the cold.
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, excuse my voice, I'm still coughing and sputtering
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: a bit, I'm on the up though, like I'm on
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: the way out of it, but yeah, and yeah, it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: a reasonable sort of day, we haven't had any moisture yet,
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: which is positive, and a bit of a breeze to
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: dry the place out, so yeah, we'll take it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Overall then, you're not looking too back, because down in
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Southland it's pretty wet.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: Ah, we're wet, yeah, no, no, we're wet. Like, it
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: just sort of seems like every time you get a
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: breezy day and it dries the surface out, there's another
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: four or five mils of rain to turn it back
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: to slop again, so Yeah, we have had more than
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: our fair share of rain and we're definitely wet. All
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: the puddles are still full and things. We sort of
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: shuffled some cattle around last week, took one wee mob
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: of bulls off their fodder beat and they've just been,
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: got them in a wee block, just feeding them baleage,
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: trying to keep them off paddocks as long as possible
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: and then Our bigger mob of bulls have just got
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: their last break of fodder beat today, and then tomorrow
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: we'll put them on their bull rotation blocks and that'll
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: be that. So that's because it was so wet. This
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: time last week, if we'd put bulls on paddocks, we
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: would have absolutely trashed those paddocks. Yeah, just trying to
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: sneak through, and I always want to... I try and.
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: Make sure we don't get, you know, we get through
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: until the sort of 1st of October before we start
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: on that second rotation of the bull block. So, you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: bull block covers are all right, but they're probably not
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: quite where I wanted them. So we sort of just
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: try and hold cattle on crop paddocks as long as
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: possible until we can, yeah, so that we can, yeah,
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: I think we'll be able to, what are we now,
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: the 10th, 11th? Yeah, we'll be able to get, three
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: weeks out of the first rotation so we can get
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: to October before we start the second one, yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: How did this August compare to the last two that
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you've had?
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Oh, not even on the same scale. Like, the last
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: two Augusts have been not too bad. This year's one
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: was pretty tough, actually. Like, we usually get 10 nice
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: warm days in August somewhere, you know, sort of a week,
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: a week. It's usually a string of a week at some,
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: and we get quite a bit of growth and we're good,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: but this year was quite tough, just cold and wet.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: And like I say, we're doing all right for feed,
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: but if we'd had a half-by-reasonable August, we would have
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: had feed coming out of our ears. So managed to
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: sneak through all right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Even though the season's been slow to date then, you
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: sound pretty confident that you can get through, likes of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: into October then?
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, well, it's too late now. Look, everything's
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: spread out pretty much. We put a ram crane on
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: 10 days into mating and try and sort of split
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: everything roughly in half. And I think I had 1,200
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: twins in the first cut, or 1,100 or something, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: 150 in the next one. So, you know, the idea
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: of the ram crane is so that we can hold
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: a percentage of our ewes behind the wire for another
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: week and keep covers, but It's not much of a
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: percentage this year. It hasn't made much of a difference
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: at all. But, yeah, so they're still behind the wire. So, yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: pretty much everything apart from a couple of unusual stock now.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: So we've just got to keep our fingers crossed, really.
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: And I've got Urea ordered, so just wait for a
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: nice fine day and wait for the helicopters to catch up,
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: and then we'll get some Urea on most of the farm, yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: What about bearings? No different to other seasons, Nige?
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: I think we've had two. So, yes, it's different, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: different in a good way. Actually, three, because a hogger
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: had a bearing out the other day, too. So, yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: we've had three bearings, and the two and the ewes
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: were quite early on, so I just dog-tuckered them, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: then this hogger, by the time I found her, she
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: was past it, so she went to the dogs, too. So, yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: usually I try and fix them and get a lamb
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: out of them and then kill the ewes, but... we're
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: on 0% survival, so that's not a very good stat,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: but we've only had three of them, so it's not
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: too bad.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: How common is it to get Barrington hoggarts?
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: I get the odd one. Just the odd one here
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: and there, but not big numbers. I really try and
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: stack feed in front of the hoggarts and keep the
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: feed up to them, and I reckon the worst thing
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: you can do for a hoggart is underfeed them, so
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: I just feed them as much as I can eat
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: and but it seems to look after them all right, yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It's a kind of a damned if you do, damned
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: if you don't scenario when you're trying to put the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: bearing back in. I mean, if it lives, when you
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: get a lamb, all well and good. But the flip
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: side is, if you get a chance, well, yeah, a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: bit of tucker for the freezer for the dogs.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, like I say, we try and put as
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: many bearings back in, or try and put all the
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: bearings back in, and we usually have a pretty good
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: survival rate. I always carry MediCam, it's a painkiller with
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: me now. pretty much all the bearings I'll do I'll
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: give them a painkiller and that I reckon makes a
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: big difference just help them feel a bit more comfortable
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: and yeah then those bearing use will just go to
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: the freezer use and keep an eye on them when
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: you're cruising around at lambing time and make sure they
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: lamb alright and then they'll get killed with the freezer
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: use in December so yeah Yeah, like, you know, usually
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: we have reasonable survival and, you know, every lamb's a
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: prisoner around here, so try and get as many lambs
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: alive on the ground as you can.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Well, every lamb's a prisoner because the money's pretty good
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Oh, yes.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: It's a no-brainer.
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: No, no, no-brainer, you know, you're right. So, and, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: we've got a position to be in and talking about,
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: you know, we have to keep every lamb alive because
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: they're going to be worth hopefully 200 bucks instead of
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: it wasn't that long ago. We had to keep every
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: lamb alive because if we didn't, we're on the verge
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: of going broke.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite a pragmatic approach around it, but pretty
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: relevant for a lot of people as well. I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you talk about on-farm inflation, which was pretty peak after COVID-19,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and it's something that's reared up again lately. But it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: good this year anyway. A lot of people paying tax.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: It's good. I've said it plenty of times. We needed
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: this past 12 months. We needed it. We had four
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: losses in a row, and we haven't actually sat down
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: with the accountant and had a decent nut out, but
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: he did some back-of-the-envelope numbers for us here a while
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: ago and said, oh, don't panic about your tax bill.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: If you've got any to pay, it won't be much,
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: but there's some pretty big losses to carry forward from
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: the last few years. So we really needed last year's
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: profit just to get back on the even keel. And
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: if we don't pay any tax... which it sounds like
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: we won't pay much, then that essentially means the last
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: four or five years were broken even. So it is good,
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: you're right, but at the same time, we needed it
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: as a business because things were getting a bit tough. So,
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: you know, we said it last year, you know, one
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: year's great, you know, one good financial year's good, but
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: if you can stack two or three of them on
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: top of each other, you really make some progress and
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: it feels like it sounds like anyway that there's going
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: to be another reasonable one, so... Hopefully, like you say,
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: we can have another reasonable year. I don't like paying
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: tax any more than the next guy, but if you're
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: paying tax, you're making money, so we'll just pay tax
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: if we need to.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Good on you, Nige. Get that cold under control. We'll
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: catch up with you again. All the best over the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Good man. Thanks, Andy.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Nigel Woodhead in South Otago between Balclutha and Milton being
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: very pragmatic and positive as well as we head into
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: spring properly down here. Mark Kelly's up next out of
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Producer up that way talking a bit of sport.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: The Waz. Big game tomorrow.
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: This is the muster on Hokanui.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: We're away up to Auckland now to catch up with
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, Newstalk ZB producer, and Waz Tragic ahead of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: this qualifying final tomorrow against the Dolphins. at Mount Smart Stadium. MK,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: good afternoon. You must be fizzing at the bung.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, g'day, Andy. Yeah, it's bloody exciting, mate. It's nice
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: to be in this position as a Warriors fan. And, yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: we'll see what happens tomorrow night. But, yeah, fingers and
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: toes are crossed.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Why do the Warriors win tomorrow?
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: Well, I actually do think we're a better side. They've
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: got a couple of X-Factor players, the Dolphins, but our
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: four-pack has really shown that they are probably the premier
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: four-pack in the whole competition. At home, it's going to be, what, 27,000,
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: 28,000 fans at Mount Smart just going absolutely bananas. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: they've got to be up for it, I think. The
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: last two weeks, we know they've had a bit of
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: issues on the defensive side, on the edge, but it's
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: a different sort of kettle of fish. And also, it's the.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: Dolphins' first ever playoff game. They've been in the competition for.
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: About, what, four or five seasons, and this is the
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: first time they've made the top eight, so... I'm hoping
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: that Lady Luck's not on their side and the Warriors
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: can come out with the win because that means, yeah,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: we continue and have a week off and then play
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: that prelim final. But not looking too far ahead, though, mate.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: The Warriors' defence has been a concern, averaging, what is it,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: well over 20 points for the last two games. Do
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you honestly think they can sort that out?
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: If you look at the season as a whole, we've
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: been the second-best defensive team for the whole competition, leading in,
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: I think, just under... 17 points a game. We know
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: what's happened in the last two weeks, but players have
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: been out, important players at important.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Positions, and maybe.
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: Sort of took the eyes off the ball. I knew
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: they had a top two spot guaranteed, but we still
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: won those games.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: We did the job.
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: It just wasn't overly convincing on the defensive side of
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: the ball, but.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: No, I have no issues.
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: I'm not worried about it one bit.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Now, you're a Warriors diehard, absolute diehard. What would it
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: mean for you if they were to win the Premiership
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: this year?
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, it'd be special.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: There's no two ways about it. It's been a long
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: time coming, season 31 in the competition. I don't really
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: know if it would feel real, and it would be
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: very Warriors to do what Canberra Raiders did last year
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: and sort of bow out in the first two rounds,
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: lose both games, but It's been a long time coming,
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: but this season does feel different. This team has a
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: lot more traits of winning teams. It's got a great
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball, good offensive air, a lot
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: of X-factor players. And those games where, say, we were
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: up and other teams came back scoring 14 unanswered points,
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: instead of sort of rolling over and taking the loss,
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: we would fight back and we'd come out.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: With the victory.
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: And it's just a different side than we've ever had.
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: Andrew Webster's done a phenomenal job. I think it's about
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: season four. of him being coach of the Warriors. No,
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: it would be special. The only thing I would much
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: rather have than an NRL premiership for the Warriors would
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: be an NPC title for the mighty.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: Bay of Plenty Steamers.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk your beloved Bay shortly. But the All Blacks,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you talked about this briefly before, being in Baltimore, this
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: effectively is a dead rubber test. I mean, we lost
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: in South Africa. This is all about trying to raise
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: inverted commas, a profile for the game over in the States.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Money talks.
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely money talks, big sponsorship, all that sort of stuff,
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: playing at the home of the Baltimore Ravens in the NFL.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: It'll be awesome to see them play there. A bit
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: easier as well on the alarm clock with a 9
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: o'clock kickoff rather than 3 a.m. Yeah, but it is disappointing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: But you've got to ask yourself, would you rather in
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: Baltimore or the other talks of that game was going
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: to be in Saudi Arabia and Qatar or something like that?
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: So I think it is what it is.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: It's weird that it's a four-test series anyway. because you
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: can get that possibility of being a two-all draw, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: I know they've had this special trophy.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Where it does split in half.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: If it does split, yeah, if it ends up being two-two,
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: but yeah, I've never understood a point of a series
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: where there is a possible outcome of not having a winner.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: That's why I love my American sports.
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: It's always best of seven, best of five, whatever.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: It is, but you're always going to get a winner.
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: I would have even much rather if it did end
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: up being Bill Blix winning um on sunday and it
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: was to all they just did an extra time golden
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: point or something two ten minute halves uh but like
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: they did in the consolation cup between the silver ferns
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: and the lz diamonds i believe it was last year
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: and it was to all and they just played an
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: extra 10 minutes extra time and and the diamonds won
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: so yeah so you do get a uh but you
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: know south african fans are going to come out if
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: we do uh win on sunday that they won the
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: south african series of it they did win two uh
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: two other three tests but Yeah, it's still an All
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: Blacks test, and it's still against our sort of greatest rivals,
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: but it is, yeah, it does feel a bit funny.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Right, well, talk the MPC. Bay are plenty against the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Stags on Sunday. You do realise the Stags are due.
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, and you got us last year as well.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: One of, I believe, three or four losses that we had,
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: and we're not very good. It's been bitterly disappointing watching
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: the Steamers sort of hang out all year for this
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: sort of 11-week window of the MPC, and and we.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: Are pretty tough to watch. We've sort of, all.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: Our lady luck of the last couple of years, the
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: success we've had making a final, a couple of semis
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: here and there, and a lot of those players now
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: have gone offshore. We've had 11 club players make debuts
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: for the province this year, but.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: It's been all right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: We had a really tough loss.
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: Against Manawatu last week, our first game at the Tiding
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: of Domain for the season, and that's probably almost shot
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: us in the foot to make the top eight, but...
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: We win against you guys Sunday. I know we're playing
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: at your fortress, so we'll see. But, oh, jeez, I
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: hope we smoke you. I'll tell you that much, Andy.
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: Sorry to your listeners, but I hope we put 30
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: on you and the Warriors win and also the All Blacks.
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: It's the big three for me for the weekend.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest. I wouldn't really call Rugby Park
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a fortress at the moment with a win-loss ratio.
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: No, no, but it does look good on TV with
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: the bums on the seats, so I'll give you that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: But all in all, it's.
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: Been quite an entertaining season of MPC. It's great to
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: have it back on on 3d on TV and said
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: but it does feel strange that it is free to
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: air But you could still watch it on sky. Mm-hmm
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: And it's still same commentaries except for that sort of
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: Saturday night commentary team, but now it's been great disappointed
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: to see my Probably most hated sports team on planet
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: Earth Hawke's Bay leading Don't you know if you hate
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: things right?
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: I just did not debate.
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: I hate how they think they have a shout to
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: be the bay and But, yeah, Tauranga is everything over Napier.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Napier's in the air.
• 37:07
  Speaker 11: I don't want to start that because we're going into
• 37:10
  Speaker 11: a beautiful Southland at the moment.
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: But, yeah, I just hope their wheels fall off for
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: the season and there's no title heading to Napier Hastings.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Does it really irk you on the TV when Hawke's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Bay comes up as Bay because they won the game
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the year before?
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: And then they don't do it for the Volcanics when
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: we play the Tui in the Farapama Cup. Like, they
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: do it one way and not the other.
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: So I believe that series is one. Also, we still
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: should be called the Bay.
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: But, again, I'm not sure how much your listeners should
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: care about my hatred for Napier Hastings.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Let it go, Mark Kelly.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: I will never.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Up the wars and go the stags.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: Up the wars, go the Bay, mate. Thanks for having me, Andy.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: This is the muster on Hakanui. Before we wrap up
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: for the week, we're away over to New York, catching
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: up with James McNamee, of course, of Garston Hops. He's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: been following the All Blacks around on the Greatest Rivalry Tour.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: He's been over at the UK for the past couple
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of days, and this morning, New Zealand time, actually, just
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: landed in New York, making his way to Baltimore. James, firstly,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: good afternoon, and Garston Hops, congratulations. You guys got an
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: accolade during the week.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: Oh, we did, actually.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really, really good. We've tried for that
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: one for a few years, and referee's law was we
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: won it when I was away. But it still means
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: we're very excited to have it, though.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well done. So, firstly, before we talk about being
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in New York on quite a poignant day, Soweto, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: big stadium there, Soccer City, whatever they call it, like
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: 93,000 people. What was it like?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, intimidating, exhilarating, and pretty good. Yeah, and it's just
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: literally in the middle of nowhere. And they bus you
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: in safely and get you out safely. But it was
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: pretty impressive.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: How would you explain the feeling in there as opposed
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to Ellis Park? Yes, the All Blacks won that game,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: but that many people in that ambitheatre must be terrific.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I think they expected to win more. And the first
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: couple of games was probably a little bit nice. Everyone's
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: been nice to each other. And then we've had one
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: game each, so The third game was definitely the gloves
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: were off, so they definitely thought they were going to win,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: and I actually thought we were going to win as well,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: but the nice had faded a little bit, but it
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: was still a pretty good banter.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So you're on your way to Baltimore. What do you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: make of this game? A lot of people are saying
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it's a dead rubber. Arguably, the series finished last week
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in Soweto. Do you still think there's a lot on
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: stake on the line with this game? Just bragging rights, perhaps?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. We might be clutching the straws a little
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: bit to go for a draw, but it is a
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: four-match series. They chose to have the fourth game here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: So Africa are taking it very, very seriously. I think
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: it's the first time for many years they've kept the
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: same team consistently through. They're definitely up.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: To win it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: It's good for the public to try and America to
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: try and raise the profile of the game. I don't
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: know if it's working. We looked at the website before
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of tickets still left for sale.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: So hopefully it's the same fills, but it might not
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: be as full as I hoped it would be.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, so are you in New York at the moment?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: Correct, yep.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: No, landed.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: So this morning I got up and visited a couple
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: of breweries in London. So I dealt with London sharing
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: stations and tube station. I dealt with the M25. If
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: anyone listening understands what the M25 is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: No, the M25, yep.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: It's a special treat in itself, dealing with the M25.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Got myself to Heathrow. Got the reverse ejection. and then
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: came over to New York, and then I dealt with
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the New York system. So pretty close to Times Square
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: at the moment. Just had a couple of sharpeners to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: revive after the trip, and about to go out and
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: have a look around Times Square in the town and.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Have something to eat. I love the way you talk
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: about going and visiting breweries on the way to the airport.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, in your line of work, it's essential.
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: Well, it is.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: It's a....
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think of a nice way to
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: explain that, but essential is a good word, Andy.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: 9-11, it's in New Zealand at the moment. You guys there, obviously,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit behind due to time zones, but quite
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a poignant moment. Have you seen anything at all on
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: your journey to date to actually understand that the stay
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: is close over there?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything yet, but when I was boarding in.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Last time I was in New York, I went and
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: visited the World Trade Centre and the sites they've done,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and they've done a really good job, actually, of doing
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: that and, I guess.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Memorising the people and the first supporters and live people
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: that came and helped them in those days. It's a
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: pretty good set-up.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It would be a very sobering moment, I'd imagine, too,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: visiting that memorial.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to get up the towers while
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: they were still there, so that was pretty cool. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: then go there and realise they're not there anymore and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: just understand where they were, how big they were, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: They had nowhere to fall, really, apart from causing a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: lot of damage.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: So what's the plan? Watch the game in Baltimore a
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: couple of days over there, then back home, is it,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to do some work?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, work is definitely calling. Once I finish here, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: need to get back on a call back to the farm.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: The hops have broken out of dormancy probably a little
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: bit earlier than we expected, so they're on their way,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: so we need to sort some stuff there to get
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: ready for building a new garden. Yeah, the plan is tomorrow,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: take the train from Penn Station down to Baltimore. We've
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: got a rental car. We'll go and see a couple
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: of breweries because, as you said, it's essential.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It's your job.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: Tomorrow night.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: It's a cool description. And then get ready for the game.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: The game originally was lunchtime on Saturday, but they pushed
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: it back to 5 o'clock so you can have a
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: sleep in, Andy.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, good to know. Hey, now you've got a mate
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: over there as well. He is 100th game watching the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: All Blacks, and he had a special presentation by a
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: couple of AB legends.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so all the group are over here. Steve and
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I did our 100th game in 2019. We got AJ Whitten.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: We were lucky enough for AJ to come and do
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: our jersey, so we were wondering what to do for Grant,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and lucky enough we managed to arrange.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Three Royal Cups can present his jersey for him in
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Cape Town, Richie McCool and David Kirk. So they met
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: us in a hotel in Cape Town and gave Grant
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: his jersey. So it was pretty cool. And they're really
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: nice about it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Good talking to them.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: They had a busy schedule, so it's good that they
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: took their time to do it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Good on you, James. Better leave it there. Go the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: ABs on Sunday. Happy travels. Sounds like a hell of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a journey you're continuing with, and we'll catch up in
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: due course, mate.
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: Perfect.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Sounds good.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Andy.
• 44:34
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• 44:38
  Speaker 1: land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Shearwell Data. Working to help the livestock farmer. RIP to
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: my neighbour. He told me his wife was going out
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to get some sewing thread but spent the day in
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the pub. Gone, but not forgotten. Right, that's us over
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and done with. The podcast will be up shortly, thanks
• 44:59
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• 45:02
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• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the Waz.