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Ep. 41 : Movers In The Card Market · Cards & Categories

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  Hello, and welcome everybody to episode forty one, the real episode forty one
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  of Cards and Categories. I am Mike Coolard from ras Ball, joined as
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  always by my very good friend Jeremy Burr, also from Rasball. How you
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  doing tonight, Bud doing fantastic. I have a little day job us since
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  we did episode forty one last week and this week because we can't count.
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  But besides that, you can rely on us for all of our analysis.
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  Just don't count on the counting. So really excited to be here. I'm
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  glad that the whole league didn't have polar oblique this this week, so there's
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  a little less to talk about, but there's lots going on. Yeah,
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  And to be fair, I didn't miscount. What happened is I had already
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  rolled forward the number at the top of our rundown, like beforehand, and
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  then I did it again and then and check and then said the wrong date.
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  It was just a wrong number, but it was a pretty momentous got
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  to forty, so it was a nice round number, forty one, A
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  lot less momentous. Just is it a prime number? Probably? Well,
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  this is we can't go down. That's correct. I believe it is but
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  on top of our heads, yeah, this is this is dangerous that we're
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  trying to do math in the first minute of the pod here, So we
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  should probably go back to baseball, which is I'm not going to say our
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  expertise. I don't want anybody to get to to rouled up here in any
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  commentary, but if we were to pick, that's where we'd say our expertise
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  is leaning. Yeah, I'm certainly I feel confident about my knowledge of baseball
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  over prime numbers. So yeah, let's get right into it, right into
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  some prime time injuries. That is again, so like you said, the
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  slate's certainly a little bit less significant than it was last week. If you
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  do want to go back to last week episode, which is actually episode forty,
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  I think it's also still pretty relevant because lots of those injuries are still
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  impacting fantasy teams out there. You can listen to our takes on some of
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  the injuries that happened and what sorts of moves you might make to mitigate them.
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  But yeah, this week a little bit, a little bit fewer,
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  just much fewer, I should say. So we're actually recording this on Tuesday,
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  the twenty third, so keep that in mind, because I'm sure we're
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  about to jinx this and somebody's going down with a major injury tomorrow. For
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  sure, We'll start with the biggest one first, and that is actually,
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  I mean the top two that we've got. It's kind of a toss up
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  now, but I'm gonna start with the first one that we had, and
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  that is Met's catcher Francisco Alvarez going down with a torn ucl in his thumb,
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  so essentially that's a sprain thumb. I think this is an injury that
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  we've seen a decent amount over the past few years. I especially remember on
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  your Lena going through this injury maybe like five ish years ago or so,
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  and Trout I think went through this injury as well, and so I've honestly,
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  this is one of the most frustrating injuries I think in baseball, especially
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  for fantasy baseball, when you have a player like Francisco Alvarez who you were
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  relying on for the power, because this injury really seems to sap that power
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  because you just can't hold the bat as well. I guess brew have you
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  when you were playing back in the day, did you ever deal with like
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  a thumb injury that and maybe like can expound upon us like what sort of
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  impact he might have. Yeah, and I never actually uh sprained my thumb
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  or toward my usale in my thumb, which is actually what he what happened.
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  But I had actually a handmaid issues within my hand, And any hand
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  injury ends up being an issue at impact of your swing, that's where it
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  causes the issue. And so to actually follow through with that full grip on
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  the bat that's where and you get this quick inse of pain right that hits
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  you the second you make contact. It makes it really hard to have that
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  good follow through that you need. It sounds sounds weird right once you hit
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  the ball, it doesn't really matter, but there is that that instance of
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  instability when you hit the ball and then that pain that really shoots through the
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  hand and almost up into the wrist. And so that is like it is
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  something that if you don't go get fixed, it will like eat you alive
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  all season long. And it's not it's not nagging. It is painful.
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  It is absolutely painful. So it has to get taken care of. For
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  Alvarez, you know he's gonna be I think I just saw he be on
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  the shelf for about two months with with this one, so it is it
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  is unfortunate. Hopefully if it gets fixed and rehabbed. Well, it's not
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  one that generally lingers too too long, but yeah, it's it's a it's
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  a big shot to the Mets, and you know, Alvarez has been looking
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  like one of those like up and coming, like long term stable fantasy catchers,
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  more in the mold of the old school fantasy catchers, like the plotters.
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  He's not the swiftest of foot necessarily, but yeah, this is definitely
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  unfortunate for Alvarez and he's going to be out until what probably the All Star
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  break. Yeah, and even after that. I'm not counting on too much
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  from Alvarez for the rest of twenty twenty four, just because of the lingering
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  pain that's gonna be in that thumb. I think, because it just doesn't
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  seem to be an injury that heals super quickly. In terms of I think
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  very similar to hamdmates, where you can see there has been studies where players
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  who come back from a handmate injury the power is sapped for quite a while,
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  you know, sometimes six to twelve months afterwards. I think if you're
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  looking for rest of season, I think Alvarez could possibly be droppable. You
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  know, if you're running into a lot of injury situations, it's still a
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  pretty prime time for getting some talent off of your waiver wires in leagues and
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  so especially you know, if Travis Darnau is still out there, who's been
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  absolutely scorching hot with all of his homers, you can still find somebody that
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  might be able to give you enough production to keep you afloat. And I
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  think in long term, like keeper dynasty leagues, this might be a good
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  buying opportunity for Alvarez, especially because I don't think if you're an Alvarez owner,
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  you can look for too much from him this year, like I said,
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  but going forward, I would think that during the offseason he gets the
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  time to strengthen, rest and rehab that thumb even more, could come back
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  even better next year. What do you think, Burup, Yeah, I
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  think you're right. I actually really like Alvarez long term. I think they're
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  you know, he you know, he's a twenty five to three homer catcher.
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  He's the kind of guy that you're trying to put in the h to
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  keep in the lineup and things like that. I know he only hit like,
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  what two twenty last year, but there was definitely some baby luck in
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  there, poor luck, and so you know, being a two forty two
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  to fifty catcher hitting twenty five to thirty homers with the counting, So that's
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  like you're just you're thrilled, you're tickled silly really as the catcher position with
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  that, So I do like it long term. I think this is definitely
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  in a dynasty league if you're in a rebuild situation and you're looking, you
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  know, somebody lost their catcher and you've got catcher, you're not playing in
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  the hang around. He got like a JT. Real Muto or something like
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  that. Definitely a good opportunity to pick somebody up because I don't think it's
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  something that lingers into the next season. You know, I'm a little more
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  optimistic at the end of the season here. I think that he can come
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  back with that and get healthy. I don't think he's like gonna hit the
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  ground running, but I think, you know, maybe you know, two
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  three weeks of kind of rehab games and things like that, he's gonna he'll
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  be okay, but that power might take a little bit more time to come.
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  So the other thing that's interesting here is I'm actually slightly intrigued by his
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  replacement Omar and Nervayaz. Yeah, he's always he's always been one of those
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  guys this just on the periphery of being worthwhile in fantasy, and you know,
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  he's one of those guys seems like can just get hot for just a
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  little at the time and be worthwhile. So you know, the first guy
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  I thought it was right away was Darnault, just like you mentioned. But
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  I do think that Arvaias is definitely interesting as well. If you're looking to
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  plug the hole, if you have literally nothing else to look at there,
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  there's there's definitely some intrigue with him. Or maybe maybe there's a Tyler Stevenson
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  out there or a Shae lang Leers or something like that. Just know that
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  you're gonna take a big old swipe at the batting average with every single one
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  of these catchers that you're trying to try to replace with. Yeah, I'm
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  not quite as high at Omar Narbias as you are, just because he has
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  looked real old and watched out the past couple of years. One thing I
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  am interested with in Narfias though, is he's only caught eighteen games this year
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  or ten games this year, eight of them he started. He has not
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  caught anybody on the pass. He's runners are perfect eighteen for eighteen in stone
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  bases off of bias on the bases. So you've got to be looking to
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  stream the New York Mets if you need stolem bases. It's almost like streaming
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  power hitters going in and out of coups that if you find some fringe stolen
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  based guys playing a series against the Mets, I think it's a great matchup
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  to try to catch some lightning and a bottle there. And that's why you
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  do the waiver wires on the weekends, because you think like that, gotta
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  get granular, sometimes super granular. All right. The other major injury that
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  we had, and this one just developed throughout the day today as we got
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  more results on Tristan Costas's rib cage injury. So he left the game on
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  Saturday with what looked like a pretty classic oblique injury and looked like we would
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  be missing him for a good stretch. You know, usually four to six
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  weeks if you have strained oblique, then the red Sox. We're calling it
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  a strained rib, which I don't know how you strain a bone, but
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  I'm not a medical professional. You will maybe consult Keelan on that sometimes,
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  see how you can strain a bone. Unless technically what they meant is they
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  he like bent the bone so much that he fractured it, because that is
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  what happened. Tristan Cassas is now down with a fractured rib and they're saying
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  he's going to be out quite a while, which I mean, we just
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  saw large Nupar come back from cracked ribs in about four or five weeks in
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  spring training. The way the Red Sox are terming this injury for Tristan Cossas,
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  it sounds like it might be multiple months here because of just how significant
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  it is. I don't know if like maybe there's the variation in terms of
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  like the crack versus the full break, but this really hurts as. Tristan
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  Cossa's first basement for the Red Sox was twenty four up and coming. I
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  think he was in line for a pretty huge season and so if you have
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  castas, what do you think you're doing with him this season? In long
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  term? Yeah, this is another one long term, it doesn't concern me
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  too much. Maybe again the blood by low opportunity in Dynasty because Tassas had
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  helium. He had a lot of helium rightfully so coming into the season,
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  so he was he was getting to be a hard, hard buy. But
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  so that that's probably the silver lining. If you're if you're already selling in
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  Dynasty, you probably have other issues. But hey, maybe this is this
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  is where you're you're gonna go. I think if you're in a a redraft
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  league, you're kind of stuck, which is the really hard part here with
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  Kassas is just good enough that he is going to be better than anything else
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  that you're gonna find out there and a waiver wire or try to you know,
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  stream into or something like that, and you just don't have enough information
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  to make a move of what how long he's gonna be going to be out
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  with any kind of core type injury. I think this is better than being
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  muscular slightly. I guess it's always bad to say a broken bone is better
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  than that, But it is still concerning for him. Like the concern I
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  have is do they like give him the time to heal? Like this is
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  literally one of those is just like you just have to sit and let it
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  heal and not overdo it, and if you come back too soon, you
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  could cause much more harm than good. So I'm concerned for this year.
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  But I don't know that you can drop him yet. I don't know that
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  you can, and I think that that's where you have to start to go
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  to the waiver wire and looking around at guys like Gavin Sheets or you know,
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  if I want to say, like Ty France or maybe maybe Connor Joke
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  and hold on for another two weeks and doing well. Like Actually, one
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  of my favorites right now is Mark Conna. I'm not gonna pronounce it right
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  from from Detroit. He has just one of those veterans that is really reliable.
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  And maybe Jake Croninworth. He he got hot in that early Korean series,
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  so a lot of people stacked him up. But you're probably gonna have
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  to find something waiver wire and go on. But yeah, it's it's it's
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  unfortunate news. I almost treat it very similar the Alvarez some scenario. So
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  correct me, where am I off? What do you think about Cassas and
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  how are you back? Villain? Yeah? I agree. I think he's
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  talented enough to hang on too, just to see where the injury goes,
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  especially because he's a great bat that plays in a great home park. In
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  my column for twelve and ten teamers day, France was the only first base
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  suggestion I had. It's pretty thin actually at first base in the corner,
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  so you might have to get desperate and you know, dip down into someone
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  like a Wilmer Flores or maybe Brian Dale. Cruz is still out there for
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  you if you need some power, but it's too Jose Braws available. Yeah
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  I don't Sorry, sorry, I might as well just take the zero at
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  that point. But yeah, it's gonna be tough. So I do think
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  that you're going to want to pay attention to how things shake out from a
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  prospect perspective. Go, I don't think Matt nervous is going to be your
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  answer from the Cubs, But you know, the Rockies are certainly struggling filling
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  out the corners with quality bats right now that maybe somebody could find a landing
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  spot there or who knows. I mean, we're just another week away from
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  it all being shaken up again. Okay, now we're going to get into
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  a couple of picture injuries here, because it's not another week without picture injuries.
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  And so the first one we've got is Ray's closer, Pete Fairbanks,
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  going down with the nerve injury his arm. And I wonder how long he's
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  been dealing with this injury, because if you recall, Fairbanks really melted down
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  the other week when the Rays were in Colorado. He blamed the inability to
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  control his pitches and get a grip on the ball on the Coors Field humidor
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  effect on the balls not being able to grip them. But I watched that
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  outing and it just like did not look like he had any feel for the
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  actual like ball period. And I know that Pete Fairbanks in the past has
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  dealt with Reynaud's syndrome, which is like a condition in your fingers where you
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  can like lose feeling and just blood flow to your fingers, and I wonder
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  if that acted up in the altitude and cold of Colorado. But it's kind
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  of unknown how long Pete Fairbanks could be out. I do get worried whenever
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  you're talking nerve issues and pitch your arms, So I'm already kind of preparing
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  for the worst here as well as Pete Fairbanks just didn't look like he had
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  it all together during his outings this year. So I think it's pretty easy
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  moving on to Jason Adam here if you're able to but brew I actually I
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  cut Pete Fairbanks in like a savehold league that I'm in that is pretty deep
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  in terms of being able to find replacements. But is that do you think
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  a viable option to be cutting Fairbanks and some more less kind of esotericallyagues than
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  the ones that I'm in. Maybe? Yeah, I think at this point,
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  recognizing the aisles are getting a little tight, I think you're still holding
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  Fairbanks because you want to see, like I don't know, maybe a week
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  or two out, like how it reacts. Because he has been wind pitching
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  very very good, and Tampa's used him as a traditional closer. So if
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  you're in a true five y five, I think you got to give him
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  a few weeks just to see. But this is one of those that nerve
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  injuries, especially in the hands, like that he might never come back.
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  I hate to go there, but like that, that's the kind of thing
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  that you see with sometimes with these relievers, is that kind of injured just
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  lingers Lingers never get the feelback walk issues come in and he's just always fighting.
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  So and having a guy like Jason Adam or you know, I think
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  even to Colin put Pochet like, there's guys that can come in and do
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  do good work. They're not going to rush him back. But I'm not
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  a save hold. Actually, I'm I actually am right with you. I
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  think that's the right spot to cut him because there's just not there's a lot
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  more out there. If you're in a traditional five by five and new closers,
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  I'd probably probably hold hold this point. I do know that I think
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  I read that the Rays are Kevin Cash, we shouldn't be shocked is going
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  to go buy matchup, and so I think that means, you know,
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  Adam gets probably seventy five percent, and then the tune Colin Pachet, you
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  know, a few others might get mixed in from there, but I think
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  Jason Adams probably the way to go for now. Yeah, I definitely agree.
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  And then the next picture injury we got is Merril Kelly from the Diamondbacks
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  going down with a Terry's major strain in his right shoulder, which this was
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  also a strange injury the way it unfolded over the weekend that it was announced,
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  honestly, like right before the start on Sunday that he was scheduled to
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  make that he was dealing with shoulder troubles and then looked like he was going
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  to skip the start, and then that unraveled to him being placed on the
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  IEL today and the news and information of this terry major strain, which I
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  think is similar to what Justin Ferlander dealt with last year, and I think
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  it's close to what Senga's dealing with, but not quite. And honestly,
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  I think this is more concerning than the Bobby Miller injury where we discussed last
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  week. Bobby Miller went down with just a sore shoulders, shoulder inflammation,
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  no strain. Here with Merrill Kelly, he's dealing with a strain. Although
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  it sounds like Arizona thinks he'll be back in the minimum fifteen days. I'm
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  a little bit concerned. What about you, Burp, Yeah, anytime you
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  started talking about the shoulder, I get concerned, especially strains or anything like
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  that. Like I I would be shocked if he's if he's back in the
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  fifteen days, like shoulders, shoulders, just this might be blast movie.
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  I feel like shoulders are they were actually worse than having the elbows when when
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  those injuries come about, just because it feels like they're in totally yeah,
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  they're just they're they're they're unknown, and it's like if when you hurt your
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  elbow, it's like we know what it is, like it's like one of
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  three things. And like I hate to say that folks have become experts on
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  those, but the shoulder, there's so much more that can kind of go
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  on in there, and it takes a lot to kind of come back from.
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  So I am prised that they think he's gonna, you know, come
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  back quickly and it's really just a scratch. Let's just you know, make
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  it by And especially for a guy that's based on volume. Uh, it's
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  concerning you know, I I you you joked earlier you asked me about my
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  injury history when I when I played you know, fun fun fact. I
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  don't know if you've know this, but my claim to fame for when I
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  played baseball back in the in the day, I was the I was I
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  think top three in the state of Illinois that we played in first single season
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  hit by pitches and so that's my claim to fame. But that's also why
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  I had so many injuries. But I also blew out my shoulder rotator cuff
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  and labor m and all those things. Shoulder injuries are just so hard,
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  so hard to come back from. So I'm holding my breath here. But
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  if it is much more than you know, a week or two, I'm
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  very concerned with Merrill Kelly's makeup. He is a volume pitcher, and the
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  thing with the shoulder is that's the first thing to go. It's it's more
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  fatigue. Is that you can still pitch, but you quit much quickly,
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  go down the fatigue track, and you lose your viability deeper into games.
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  And that's where Kelly gets his value. And so he's gonna make it like
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  the fifth and start to try to give the six and just get lit up
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  because he's gonna lose velos seas. I think it's gonna come fast. People
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  are gonna see it coming. So I'm I'm a little more concerned with Merrile
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  Kelly than probably the diamond Exter Leninam. Yeah, I'm me too. And
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  on top of it all, MARYL. Kelly's actually thirty five, so he's
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  got a lot of midleate on that shoulder. I forget that he is that
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  hold because he was in Korea for a bit and you just kind of like
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  lost track of those years that he has gone. But it is, I
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  think, something to keep an eye on that. I don't know if I'm
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  if I'm owning Meryl Kelly, I'm holding him to see kind of how this
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  unfolds over the next couple of weeks. But I could certainly see it unfolding
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  and not getting great updates and maybe coming to a point where you might have
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  to let him go. And this is the time of season that you kind
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  of have to be aggressive with those injurious like, don't get stuck using your
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  old bench on injured guys. Yeah, speaking from experience, don't don't do
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  that because you miss all the upstart guys. You miss you know, picking
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  up these guys that were just coming out nowhere, like a Jared Jones or
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  you know, I'm trying to think who else is basically all of Baltimore's hitters.
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  So you know, you don't want to lose out of those opportunities early
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  in the season. Yes, absolutely agree, all right, the next one
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  we're going to pair together as we have two Milwaukee Brewers that hit the IL
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  over the past couple of days. We have Dial Hall going down with a
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  knee issue and Wade Miley also being shelved with an elbow issue. They called
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  up today to make the start. It was Tobias Myers, who looked honestly
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  not bad. I think in super deep leagues, Tobias Myers is just kind
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  of if you are in one of those leagues where any warm body that's coming
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  through is somebody that you need to give a shot. I think Tobias Myers
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  might be useful for that. And also the Brewers are going to move Bryce
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  Wilson into the rotation for the meantime. I just wanted to bring this up
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  because there are some good pitching arms down in Milwaukee's minor league system. One
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  unfortunately, he is injured right now. That's Robert Gasser, who this would
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  have been a perfect opportunity for him to come up. The other one is
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  Jacob Missierowski, who is a flamethrower down there, but also can't seem to
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  find the strike zone right now. So I guess any sort of opportunity that
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  you see right now in this Brewer's rotation because it is a pretty good team
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  that like, this is a good team to try to find opportunities for pitchers
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  because not only are the Brewers pretty good at pitching development and have been in
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  the past few years, but the team is winning. So it's tough to
• 23:48
  find wins in our fantasy game nowadays, and this is the type of team
• 23:52
  that I like to try to find those types of opportunities. Yeah, I
• 23:56
  think you kind of want the same spot I did, which is I'm a
• 24:00
  little bit more intrigued by what's in that minor league system. I don't know
• 24:02
  that they even are ready yet, but Misarowski is I think the one with
• 24:06
  the highest upside to me and guy that I've kind of been trying to slowly
• 24:11
  acquire in dynasty leagues. I think there's just a lot of potential there.
• 24:15
  In the short term, I think we're probably going to see more around Bryce
• 24:18
  Wilson to your point, and just not a lot to get excited about Bryce
• 24:25
  Wilson. I think he's gonna He's probably one of those kind of guy you
• 24:27
  can play a few matchups here and there, but I think really the question
• 24:33
  is how long are we going to be out, you know, without these
• 24:37
  guys, and does that give enough time for somebody in the minors to really
• 24:42
  be elevated, like like to figure things out, get the control under under
• 24:47
  control, under control, and go forward. So right now, to me,
• 24:52
  it's a non event. I don't know what your thoughts are, though,
• 24:56
  Yeah, I should have maybe done one quick Google search on Robert Gasser
• 25:00
  before I brought this up, But it does look like he is going to
• 25:03
  be back within the next week at least. He's been down with a bone
• 25:07
  spur in his elbow for the past month in spring since spring training, so
• 25:11
  I think that's Actually I'm very intrigued to see how Robert Gasser's first outing goes
• 25:18
  in his return back from that injury, because this is also a situation where
• 25:22
  it's getting dire enough in Milwaukee that they want to compete for the division overall
• 25:30
  and might just be willing to throw still rehabbing Robert Gasser out there for three
• 25:34
  or four innings and just kind of limp along. But that could also secure
• 25:40
  Robert Gasser's spot in the rotation going forward. Yeah, and so if he
• 25:45
  does get called up, and I think the same for me Asarowski, like
• 25:48
  either of those guys get called up, I think they do call for immediate
• 25:51
  action, right I don't know that either of them call for back action right
• 25:55
  now, but I think either of them call for probably team I think it's
• 26:00
  a Flyer fourteen anything deeper. I think you have to to go after him
• 26:04
  the thing with like a gas er, Like you're not looking for these crazy
• 26:08
  like whipped ratios or even maybe crazy era. He's a k guy. He's
• 26:15
  coming out there throwing gas. That's why his name is Gaser. And you
• 26:19
  know you're looking for that, and you're looking for some some some strikeout volume.
• 26:23
  So he did get have one hundred and thirty five innings in the minors
• 26:26
  just last year, so I think you know there's there's definitely some some value
• 26:32
  there. I'm just I'm not touching either guy. I don't I don't know.
• 26:36
  I don't know what the Brewers are doing. That's my proud, Like,
• 26:37
  I just don't know if they're going for it or not. Like it
• 26:40
  feels like they shouldn't be that good. Feels like they're doing okay because the
• 26:42
  rest of the Central is terrible like every year. So I'm watching I'm watching
• 26:48
  this one closely. Yeah, honestly, the Brewers might just Bash their way
• 26:52
  to the division titles somehow, because I thought that the offense was weak,
• 26:56
  but it is ferocious. Like I fit starting to not like start pictures against
• 27:03
  Milwaukee because William Contreras has been on a tear. But yeah, we'll see
• 27:07
  how this unfolds in Milwaukee. But I'm certainly I think obviously, just based
• 27:14
  on where they're at right now, gas Are probably will come up before Miss
• 27:17
  Rawski and I'm certainly watching that going forward. Okay, next picture injury that
• 27:22
  we have is Christian Javier from the Houston Astros being placed on the fifteen day
• 27:27
  IL yesterday with some sort of neck injury. I couldn't exactly nail it down,
• 27:33
  but it's like a sore neck or a strained neck or something along those
• 27:37
  lines. Again, a little bit concerning that, it's a little vague,
• 27:41
  and neck injures for pictures are a little bit bigger deal than I think sometimes
• 27:48
  we give initial thought to because again, it's kind of a part of the
• 27:53
  whole shoulder portion of your body and all those things working in conjunctions. So
• 28:00
  it could really unravel for Javier if you know, he can't get back together
• 28:07
  pretty quickly. But again, the Astros recall Spencer Araghetti a pod favorite here,
• 28:12
  and so I just wanted to check in on your your temperature of Spencer
• 28:17
  Araghetty. I know he's looked rough in his MLB debut, but there were
• 28:22
  some underlying metrics in terms of his actual velocity and the FIP being a little
• 28:32
  better than the surface level stats. So I wanted to see you still considering
• 28:37
  Spencer Araghetty and what do you think he could do with this another chance in
• 28:41
  rotation. Yeah, I'm still I'm still on the sidelines with with with with
• 28:47
  speak getti here. I think it's sorry, I can't. You can't bring
• 28:51
  Spencer Ragedy up without calling the spaghetti. Maybe we're the only ones that do
• 28:55
  that, but there's still a way. We're the only ones. Absolutely no
• 28:57
  way. But I'm just the control. The control is just too much for
• 29:03
  me. Like there there there's a there's a point where it's just like yeah,
• 29:07
  like I can I can deal Like Gaser I think is a good example,
• 29:08
  right, He's he's not a control guy, but he's like he's in
• 29:12
  the three mid threes cape or walk per nine, like I can see it,
• 29:17
  and he has a good outing. He can go crazy, Like I
• 29:19
  just you know, rag Getty is his last three stops. I get that
• 29:26
  the innings aren't crazy this year in Triple A and MLB, but like,
• 29:30
  he's not kept him below five, and when he was below five, he
• 29:36
  was in the high threes. Like, he just doesn't doesn't just doesn't do
• 29:41
  it for me as far as the control, and I'm just I'm wanting him
• 29:44
  to figure that out. So he does that, he could be so good
• 29:47
  and he just he just hasn't. So I'm Christian Javier. I'm sorry I
• 29:52
  wasn't too concerned interested in him. There's a lot of other concerns there,
• 29:56
  with the ground ball rate, with the cave dropping, the velocity coming down.
• 30:02
  He's kind of from what we hoped he was, you know, when
• 30:06
  he when he first came up, it just hasn't panned out. And Ragedtty,
• 30:08
  I just I don't know that there's enough there that I I can will
• 30:14
  willingly take the risk on a blow up game, because he's the kind of
• 30:18
  guy they can go like one inning and give up like nine runs and you're
• 30:22
  not shocked about it. Now, I feel like that's happened a lot to
• 30:26
  a lot of guys this year. Unfortunately, Cole Reagan's just did did it
• 30:30
  himself, like yeah, but yeah, it's it. So I'm I'm I'm
• 30:34
  I'm still on the sidelines with Spencer Ragedy. Yeah, I mean I think
• 30:38
  I'm going to. I haven't watched any of his starts, like in like
• 30:44
  actually just watch it the way he pitches. He did look a lot better
• 30:48
  on the fifteenth against the Braves, with two earned in four innings and only
• 30:52
  walked to. But he is his zone rate is actually like higher than Blake
• 30:59
  snails, So so I do wonder if he's trying to approach things in the
• 31:03
  Blake's snow, you know pitching style where if you do have a fastball and
• 31:11
  slider that are working well enough, you can get chases. And it's just
• 31:15
  more of like trying to put those eyes on what Arragetty's arsenal looks like to
• 31:19
  see if he actually is one that would work, because if it is a
• 31:26
  good enough slider and just is able to control the fastball enough to keep hitters
• 31:33
  off balance, that you can see where it could possibly work out. I
• 31:37
  just I'm intrigued, I would say, but I don't think I'm picking him
• 31:41
  up yet. But we'll add him to plenty of watch lists out there.
• 31:47
  Yep, I'm with you. Okay. Well, with that, we are
• 31:52
  going to wrap up kind of the news and fancy discussion. We haven't had
• 31:56
  too much of a card discussion here in a few weeks, so I thought
• 32:00
  we could really dive into it this week as we go back and look at
• 32:05
  cards of players who are certainly up in the markets over the past month.
• 32:12
  I think this happens a lot within baseball card collecting. You get a little
• 32:15
  bit of information and fresh stats in a new year, and then the prices
• 32:21
  get a little bit wonky in terms of fluctuating up or down based on performance
• 32:25
  pretty quickly right off the bat. I think here on the podcast, from
• 32:30
  a fantasy standpoint, we preach a lot of patients in the early on,
• 32:34
  but in the card game, you've got to be moving quick to be able
• 32:37
  to find the right markets for your cards and make sure that you are selling
• 32:43
  them at the right peak and the right times. So I think it's a
• 32:46
  great time for us to dive into some of those players that are getting into
• 32:52
  different price ranges or different fluctuations that I think we can take advantage of as
• 32:57
  collectors for both like collecting, like if you want to store up more of
• 33:01
  these cards in the future and to move on from some of these guys.
• 33:06
  As you know, now is the time to strike when the iron is hot.
• 33:09
  So Brew, is this like also a big time for you to start
• 33:13
  evaluating your card collection and going into these sorts of stats and analysis. Yeah,
• 33:21
  this is you know, the there's like two points in the season that
• 33:25
  to me, you really spend a little time like as a collector slash seller
• 33:30
  try and decide what to do with you with your collection, especially if you're
• 33:34
  in that prospecting game. That's beginning of the season, and then that's all
• 33:38
  up time. So that second one is not really defined. This is when
• 33:42
  your guys getting called up, but at the beginning of the season. Is
• 33:45
  that like guys going off small sample sizes things like that. When that happens
• 33:50
  later in the season, when a guy just has a hot like few weeks,
• 33:52
  their prices just kind of, you know, kind of stabilized, like
• 33:57
  they just don't get the same peaks and valleys season because it takes a little
• 34:00
  bit longer for them for say the media the casual fan to kind of pick
• 34:05
  up on that, Hey, I'm gonna go back to Connor Joe earlier because
• 34:08
  he's you know, darling every April that you know, all of a sudden,
• 34:14
  it's like, man, this guy's coming out of nowhere. He might
• 34:15
  be breaking out. If that happens in middle of July, you're you're just
• 34:21
  you're you miss it. You just don't see as weasily the valuations are aren't
• 34:24
  a significant So definitely this is the time I'm looking kind of at who's who's
• 34:30
  popping, who's going off, and where where are the card prices going that
• 34:32
  are a little bit outsized of the market, and I might want to capitalize
• 34:37
  on those And for for for those listening, my card strategy is sell my
• 34:43
  cards, to buy more of my cards, to sell my cards, like
• 34:45
  it's it's a vicious cycle and so and it makes taxes fantastic, by the
• 34:50
  way, But you know that this is absolutely that time to be kind of
• 34:55
  digging through and be like, wait a second, I have this guy.
• 35:00
  I really forgot about this card because it came out of nowhere. So definitely
• 35:06
  exciting time of the year will be kind of digging through through those cars and
• 35:08
  seeing, hey, can I flip something here? Yeah? And I think
• 35:13
  you are a little bit more cutthroat than I am honestly in terms of really
• 35:16
  moving on when the price jumps, partly because I do like having just like
• 35:22
  rookie cards, especially of all players, and so that is part of the
• 35:29
  reason, like I got back into card collecting was I was really sad and
• 35:34
  then missing out, missed out on any like kind of the initial investment round
• 35:38
  from mon Soto and Ronald Kunya and Shoho Tani and all those cards that came
• 35:45
  out in twenty eighteens. So I wanted to make sure that I had a
• 35:49
  pretty solid rookie and Bowman first card collection. To be able to have rookie
• 35:54
  cards of any of like the big stars coming through, we not have to
• 35:59
  go back and pay you know, forty fifty dollars much more than market when
• 36:05
  I could have you know, bought it out of a pack or bought it
• 36:07
  for a couple bucks upon the initial release. So with that in mind,
• 36:13
  though, like certainly when we're seeing some of the price spikes that we have
• 36:16
  seen on some of the players that we're talking about, it is always time
• 36:22
  to move on some of these players, especially once we get I think people
• 36:27
  will see once we get into the discussion of like who some of the prices
• 36:30
  are up for, like why we might be moving on these guys, and
• 36:34
  certainly in some of the same way that we do from a fantasy perspective,
• 36:39
  but in car collecting, it does seem like people will buy these, Unlike
• 36:45
  in your fantasy leagues when you're trying to shop around the hot hitter of the
• 36:49
  week with a six hundred babip, lots of people see through that in the
• 36:52
  fantasy game. On the card game, maybe not always so much. But
• 36:55
  before we even get into that, what sorts of ways are you you tracking
• 37:00
  values on your cards so that you know that your cards are ready to sell
• 37:06
  or have had spikes in prices. Yeah, I mean there's there's probably two
• 37:12
  ways that I look at that, And you're right, I'm not emotionally attached
• 37:16
  to things as much as they should be. Granted you say that it ends
• 37:21
  up happenings. I sell it, then like a month later I buy the
• 37:22
  same card back. But you know, as I go through the first is
• 37:29
  just really just watching kind of that the market on either Twitter or just eBay,
• 37:32
  just literally just seeing like what names are just all of a sudden coming
• 37:37
  up, and the prices just seem to be different. And so some of
• 37:42
  the guys that we'll talk about today, I think that's where they just show
• 37:45
  up all of a sudden. You're you're seeing them be like this this Why
• 37:50
  is this guy's cards? All of a sudden just keep popping up my timeline?
• 37:52
  What's going on there? And you look at it? Or I guess
• 37:57
  the third way kind of the fantasy world, who's just who's just got hot,
• 38:00
  Who's who's made the news? Things like that, that's generally one to
• 38:04
  kind of go look at, you know, the the other police. And
• 38:07
  there's something I think we're gonna use here is there's a number of websites out
• 38:09
  there. One we'll call out sportscard investor dot com that does track sales on
• 38:16
  things like eBay for different various card whether it's graded, whether it's raw,
• 38:21
  and can kind of help you see like here's the cards that are hot,
• 38:23
  here's the ones that are jumping. Maybe not always the easiest to filter through,
• 38:28
  and things like that, but that's okay, it's fun. Well,
• 38:30
  that's a really good source to kind of see what's taking place, or even
• 38:34
  look at guys similar that have kind of come up and what happened with their
• 38:37
  prices. I think there's really good examples out there of guys that you look
• 38:42
  back on, you're like, man, this guy's price has jumped up,
• 38:45
  and like, you know, I you know, I think a guy that
• 38:47
  I've compared a lot to cards who is like or you're Don Alvarez. Your
• 38:52
  Don is a fantastic hitter. I don't think there's any questions about that.
• 38:57
  He doesn't seem to have any off the field issues that take away from his
• 39:00
  his pricing and e anything like that place on a decent team. And his
• 39:05
  cards when they first came out, it's like his rookie cards those were they
• 39:08
  were expensive, like they were, you know, five bucks a pop for
• 39:12
  a paper rookie base top series one right, and he had a lot of
• 39:19
  helium, And they've kind of jumped up as he did really well, and
• 39:23
  then they've really settled. And so look at other like young power hitters that
• 39:29
  come up, they have a similar profile and when their cards jump, and
• 39:31
  then he was like, compare to somebody like your down, He's like,
• 39:34
  he's a top twenty hitter in the league. Where is his rookie card now?
• 39:37
  Where is his first bowman now? And looking at those and be like,
• 39:40
  all right, I'm talking about you know who wanted Michael Bush. We'll
• 39:46
  hit I'm in the second here, and his cards are going like crazy,
• 39:51
  Is he your Don Alvarez? No he is not. Maybe somebody can correct
• 39:55
  me, but look at his prices versus somebody like that and be like,
• 40:00
  yeah, it's time to sell, It's time to go. So I use
• 40:01
  a few different things there, you know, a little bit ad hot within
• 40:06
  everyone's well's worth just going out there and just like like I said, Sportscard
• 40:08
  Investor and going out and seeing what are the trends in the market. Yeah,
• 40:13
  and that is really where we're going to especially be deriving the information for
• 40:19
  this discussion is from sports Card Investor. I know that they also have a
• 40:22
  premium product called market Movers, where I think you get an app and you
• 40:27
  can kind of punch in all the cards and your collection and make sure that
• 40:31
  you know it's linking back I do. I think Sports Card Investor is probably
• 40:36
  the best out there that I've seen in terms of actually like harvesting the data
• 40:40
  and the information and putting it together in one place. Because eBay has the
• 40:45
  same sort of function where it will like tell you purchases that you've made and
• 40:52
  trying to like track it with eBay prices. But it's bad. It's it's
• 40:55
  not very accurate, and eBay like the algorithm or AI that is running that
• 41:02
  just doesn't exactly know how to search for cards efficiently on eBay and trying to
• 41:07
  line them up so that I think it works for bigger cards. You know,
• 41:12
  if you've got like the upper deck Griffy Rookie card, eBay knows what
• 41:17
  that is and can track it pretty well. But when it comes to modern
• 41:21
  cards or parallels, that's when it starts kind of crumbling and falling. Apart,
• 41:27
  of course, you've also just got the old school method where you could
• 41:30
  still subscribe to Beckett magazine and look at the up and down arrows, which
• 41:36
  those values are funny that like reflecting back on it as a kid, that
• 41:40
  they felt like the source of truth, like a Bible in terms of value.
• 41:45
  Nowadays, those those Beckett prices are a little squishy that when I've seen
• 41:52
  them, I don't know exactly what the updating process is there, but I
• 41:55
  think it's honestly still pretty manual that they might even like pull like local card
• 42:04
  collecting shops to be able to get information, but it's a it's a very
• 42:07
  strange market, and I don't think reflects actual market conditions as much as sports
• 42:13
  card Investor or even honestly eBay at times. Yeah. I was actually at
• 42:17
  the card show this this weekend. When I say card show, he was
• 42:20
  like four tables, so it was really really intense. And I was talking
• 42:23
  to one of one of the guys that was set up there and I went,
• 42:25
  it's table and he goes, just to clarify, I literally just put
• 42:30
  Beckett prices on all these and so they're way overpriced. It was basically his
• 42:34
  commentary is just like I just do that because then we just kind of know
• 42:37
  generally where they're at. And then well he's like, probably half this kind
• 42:43
  of was the was the commentary, and so like, yeah, but so
• 42:45
  it gives you something to work with and the ups and the downs. But
• 42:49
  it is like, yeah, back at, back at, you're right back
• 42:52
  in the day, like it was the gospel because you didn't have the same
• 42:55
  you know, technology to use, so it probably was just double backday.
• 43:00
  We just didn't know it's true. Yeah, all got caught up in it.
• 43:05
  Okay, well let's get into the players that we want to discuss and
• 43:07
  so, like I said, I think you'll start finding some general themes that
• 43:13
  parallel with on field performance or on field hype with a lot of these guys.
• 43:17
  But let's just get into it. And so the first guy that is
• 43:22
  obviously up is Jackson Holiday. I think everybody could have seen this coming as
• 43:28
  he was called up recently. Although has been struggling at the major league level
• 43:32
  for the Baltimore Orioles right now, but he is only twenty years old and
• 43:37
  the sky is the limit for him in terms of what his future might be.
• 43:43
  He is playing second base right now, but you would think that eventually
• 43:46
  he gets a crack at playing shortstop, as you know, maybe Gunner Henderson
• 43:50
  moves over to third base in a few years, and that would obviously just
• 43:54
  shoot the values I think even higher up for Holiday as we see what shortstop
• 44:00
  can add to I mean, I think, especially going forward, lots of
• 44:04
  people you're not just looking for like five hundred homer hitters and three thousand hitters
• 44:10
  to hit guys to invest in going forward, but you're also looking at high
• 44:15
  war players like Rookie Betts. You know, going forward, playing shortstop is
• 44:20
  going to be certainly one of those, but yeah, especially, I mean
• 44:24
  Jackson Holiday's profile in terms of cards are up across the board because of this,
• 44:29
  and some of the prices, especially on the higher end, are absolutely
• 44:32
  goofy, you know, as expensive as Mickey Mantle cards and other Hall of
• 44:37
  famers. But especially the one I want to focus on here is just the
• 44:40
  Base twenty twenty two Bowman draft first bowman for Jackson Holiday, because that is
• 44:47
  the one that I think is going to be the most common and probably just
• 44:52
  like the one that he's known for until he has a tops Rookie card that
• 44:55
  comes out. But that card is up currently on Sports Card Investor as we
• 45:01
  talk, roughly forty percent over the past month or so, which, honestly,
• 45:07
  I'm a little bit surprised because Jackson Holiday's prices have been pretty high ever
• 45:10
  since these cards were released. So Brew, if you have any Jackson Holidays,
• 45:15
  what do you do with them? Yeah? Well, unfortunately I don't
• 45:20
  really have many Jackson Holidays. I don't either. You know. The part
• 45:23
  of it was, and we'll talk about this as we go through. You
• 45:29
  know, Jackson Holiday, you know when you get called up, like there's
• 45:32
  a hype that comes and if you actually look in some of the detail,
• 45:37
  you know, as they look across like that thirty days he says up,
• 45:39
  But there's actually very distinct spike right when when he got called up his prices.
• 45:44
  I'm just looking at his first Bowman chrome. The average price the day
• 45:49
  before you got called up was about from a raw perspective, was like nineteen
• 45:52
  dollars. The next day it was twenty nine, So you know it have
• 45:55
  about fifty percent increase in value, the thing. And that's very typical,
• 46:00
  right, very typical of a hot prospect that's killing it in the miners getting
• 46:06
  called up, their cards rocket for like two three days, and then what
• 46:10
  kind of meter depends on the performance the thing with Holiday. There's two things
• 46:15
  against him here. One, he was terrible when when we first came up,
• 46:21
  not that that's gonna be who he is long term. And I actually
• 46:22
  thinks he started to look a little better as late, but his cards actually
• 46:27
  just dropped almost lower, like a week later than where they were when he
• 46:30
  called up, or like ten days later, because of that cycle. And
• 46:35
  the other piece I think he's calling Holiday to be a little bit more volatile
• 46:38
  is that he's in that twenty twenty two Bowman and that's the peak of overproduction
• 46:45
  for bowmen. And so you know him and a few others in that that
• 46:50
  twenty twenty two class and even some of the twenty twenty three class are so
• 46:54
  overinflated from a rent run perspective that they're just much more readily accessible. And
• 47:00
  so if you're looking at old comps or different players, like it's a tease
• 47:02
  or a soda or guys that we kind of mentioned earlier that you might hope
• 47:07
  Holiday becomes, it's got to be you got to meter your expectation on somebody
• 47:10
  like Holiday because there is some over production there. So if the price is,
• 47:15
  like if you didn't sell already, you actually might want to hold Holiday
• 47:19
  at this point. Uh, until he kind of re established himself and he
• 47:22
  you know, gets hot, But I think he's gonna see a few spikes
• 47:27
  along the road once he starts to show who we really believe he is,
• 47:30
  and then his cards will kind of recover and jump back up. His his
• 47:36
  autos and things like that. They were already just so got started high.
• 47:38
  It almost didn't change anything. Uh, they were just absurd. Those will
• 47:43
  come down over time. There's no question his autos are not going to stay
• 47:45
  at like five hundred dollars. Yeah, and I think it'll also be a
• 47:51
  little bit more watered down once he actually has Rookie carts coming out, which
• 47:54
  I think. I mean, they haven't put out any of the checklists or
• 47:57
  anything, but just reading the tea leaves, you would put Jackson Holiday in
• 48:01
  twenty twenty four Tops Update because he has had tops Now cards released with the
• 48:09
  RC logo on it, which means he's going to have a Rookie card in
• 48:14
  twenty twenty four, which is honestly unfortunate that it's got to be on this
• 48:19
  twenty twenty four its nine. Do you think there's a chance that he makes
• 48:22
  in the Series two? I know that, like you have me like right
• 48:25
  around opening day or shortly, that he's right on the border of Series two.
• 48:30
  But my guess was Update like they want him to be the anchor of
• 48:32
  Update. I think so too. I think they're honestly probably going to do
• 48:37
  what they did with Julio Rodriguez and Bobby Witt a couple of years ago,
• 48:40
  where they put short prints of their rookie cards into Series two, but then
• 48:45
  the official rookie card was in Update that I think we could see something similar
• 48:51
  with Holiday, where there's some sort of limited variation short print in series two
• 48:57
  that isn't in the base checklist. Well, I really hope they don't do
• 49:00
  exactly what they did with Witt and Julio, because that was a disaster where
• 49:04
  they like didn't put them in the right packs and all kinds of things like
• 49:07
  that. But but I think you're right that's probably the likely outcome there,
• 49:10
  So I want to I want to flip it on you. Though we talked
• 49:14
  about Jackson Holliday, Let's let's go across the outfield here and talk about Colton
• 49:20
  Kowser yea also Baltimore. What are your thoughts on Kauser and how are you
• 49:24
  looking at him? I we we talked about looking through cards. I was
• 49:28
  looking through him last night and I found a Kowser uh that was in my
• 49:31
  dollar box and I was like, wait a second, I want to look
• 49:36
  at that one a little bit closer. That's what that is the fun of
• 49:38
  this time of year, Like you can find these these deals at card shows
• 49:42
  and things like that because things are just changing constantly. But what are you
• 49:45
  what's your thoughts on Colton Calger in his market? Yeah? I mean,
• 49:49
  if you want to talk about maybe the most obvious cell that I think we're
• 49:52
  gonna talk about tonight. Yeah, there's a couple others that are pretty heavy
• 49:57
  cells, but yep, especially given where the prices for Colton Kowser have gone
• 50:01
  as as we talk here on Tuesday the twenty third, his slash line stands
• 50:07
  at three sixty four four hundred, eight hundred. On the slug he has
• 50:13
  six homers in twenty one games, but it is fueled by a four to
• 50:17
  fifty two babe up. He has a thirty one point seven percent strikeout rate
• 50:23
  that I think especially like I can see a world where you do want to
• 50:29
  hold Jackson Holiday in some capacity, because I do think that the Jackson Holiday
• 50:36
  long term career is a pretty like there's a pretty significant percentage compared to Bose
• 50:42
  ballplayers that he is a multiple time All Star, you know, pushes some
• 50:46
  sort of Hall of Fame consideration. Is just like that kind of level of
• 50:50
  talent. Even though Colton Kowser is twenty four, I feel pretty confident saying
• 50:54
  that Colton Calser will not be that. I guess we can come back in
• 50:59
  a years in slam dunk on this take, but I kind of tend to
• 51:05
  believe a little bit more in the projections, especially for somebody with the plate
• 51:08
  discipline like what Cow's are showing. You know, he's on an all time
• 51:13
  hot streak right now. Is everything is just looking like a beach ball in
• 51:17
  the zone to him. But this has caused all of his cards to go
• 51:21
  up about fifty percent over the past few days, and if not more like
• 51:28
  it is, I would say that if you this is one guy that to
• 51:32
  your point going back through dollar boxes, I'm sure there are plenty of his
• 51:37
  twenty twenty one Bowman draft first chromes and bass that are buried in value boxes
• 51:45
  out there that you've got to dig them up and sell them as quickly as
• 51:51
  you can because it's going to be a balloon that deflates pretty quickly. I
• 51:54
  think I'm guessing you're probably in a similar boat, but I'll give you the
• 51:59
  chance to speak now, Yeah, I am. What's actually interesting is you
• 52:02
  mentioned the fifty percent over thirty days, which it is like from thirty days
• 52:07
  ago, so now it's actually fifty percent. What's interesting though, is kwser
• 52:12
  he had like a week where he just went off like he hit what four
• 52:15
  bombs knocked in like eight nine runs. He he just looked phenomenal. That's
• 52:21
  what happens when he played, you know, the Brewers and the Boss and
• 52:24
  the Red Sox and they're pitching, but you know, his cards shot up.
• 52:30
  I was looking at his his base auto and this is, you know,
• 52:32
  more of the typical scenario than the holiday where we're talking about like a
• 52:36
  five hundred, because like his there's so much hype Cowderd. I mean,
• 52:37
  he was a good prospect. His base auto was forty fifty dollars kind of
• 52:44
  you know a month ago and now to your point, it's it's maybe eighty
• 52:49
  two hundred dollars, but it hit almost two hundred dollars when he we hit
• 52:53
  that like hot week, it's it like quadrupled in value over like a week
• 52:58
  period. And that that's the craziness of prospects beginning of the season and hype
• 53:05
  and so like it just went crazy for him, and I thought it was
• 53:07
  like, maybe that's just an auto. I looked at his bass chrome it
• 53:10
  I mean, this is we're talking small dollars here, but that's my game.
• 53:15
  We were talking like a two dollar base chrome first and one to eight
• 53:17
  dollars and just like a matter of three four days, and so it just
• 53:22
  shot through the roof. And that's why you kind of have to pay attention
• 53:24
  to these guys because it's now down to half that, right, And it's
• 53:30
  a lot of times these spikes are literally for three, four or five days
• 53:35
  until people realize that he's striking out a third of the time barely walks bave
• 53:38
  it's almost five hundred. The card market just takes a little bit longer to
• 53:43
  catch up with those things than the fantasy market. Yeah. Absolutely. I
• 53:46
  think you also see that when pitchers have really good outings or no hitters or
• 53:51
  things like that, which I mean honestly thinking about like all those factors.
• 53:54
  I know his market is up in Jared Jones from Pittsburgh, but he's not
• 54:00
  on these lists right now. I do wonder how long it is before he
• 54:04
  is on these lists, and we can we're actually not touching on too many
• 54:08
  pictures this evening because I can tell you right now the best answer for all
• 54:14
  pictures across the board will always be to sell. Just look at Spencer Streider
• 54:17
  and kind of like how picture injuries have been going in the past couple of
• 54:22
  years, that it's tough to sell any picture when after that his injury hits,
• 54:30
  So you might as well try to make some money now if you can.
• 54:32
  You know, yeah, I think it's just the standard for pictures.
• 54:36
  And we do have one what we'll talk about here, But like pictures just
• 54:38
  don't hold value. You look at the Hall of Famers and things like that,
• 54:42
  and Burlander and the Scherzers and guys like that, and like unless you
• 54:46
  end up being a cult hero for some reason, like at the picture.
• 54:50
  Like one of my favorites in the card world is like Carrie Wood. He
• 54:55
  is this like cult hero to all of Chicago cub fans and for whatever reason,
• 55:00
  like they will pay whatever it takes to get a carry Wood card.
• 55:05
  But like you have to have something, you know, twenty strikeout game that
• 55:08
  like resonates, and I think Garry Woods still has the some of like what
• 55:12
  his career could have become, Like he somehow has prospect type like all these
• 55:15
  years later. I don't know how that works, but you're right, Like
• 55:20
  pictures like they're just like if you're if you're looking to invest in cards or
• 55:23
  even just casually have some value in cards, like you're looking through what things
• 55:27
  to pick up and maybe take a flyer on it's just generally not pictures.
• 55:31
  But to your point, if they get hot for like a few starts or
• 55:35
  have a complete game, perfect game, whatever it may be, that's like
• 55:39
  the time to to to take take a little ride on these guys and and
• 55:44
  and flip things around. But Strider, I think his his prices and we
• 55:46
  weren't gona talk about him today, but I was, I was looking.
• 55:49
  I think his prices almost cut in half just with the injury. Oh yeah,
• 55:53
  I believe it. But yeah, I think also while we're on Causier,
• 55:58
  we might as well stay just in Baltimo more in general, because with
• 56:01
  Jackson Holliday and Colton Kowser, you know, those values going up, and
• 56:07
  just the Orioles playing so well, and I think also just being a fun
• 56:14
  team to watch, and there's a really good chance they could kind of become
• 56:17
  like America's team in terms of, you know, taking down the Yankees and
• 56:22
  facing them all summer, and they just have a great underdog story behind them
• 56:28
  that I think people are starting to get into Baltimore Orioles fandom. I don't
• 56:34
  think it hurts that, you know, they have the bong dong and all
• 56:37
  these other kind of like fun things going on, But all Orioles cards are
• 56:42
  up in general. You know, this is spreading to Adlei, Ritchman,
• 56:46
  Gunner, Henderson and even the infamous Billy ripkn F face card. So if
• 56:53
  you do have some of these more prized Orioles cards, I would certainly start
• 56:58
  digging through your collect just to find them, because I think this might end
• 57:02
  up being a little bit more of a trend going forward to that. I
• 57:05
  think there is a pretty big, strong narrative of seeing kind of where this
• 57:09
  Orioles team could go in terms of like what the dynastic kind of possibilities are.
• 57:16
  So I think people are starting to invest, and especially people are just
• 57:21
  becoming familiar with these players and they're becoming more and more popular. So if
• 57:25
  you have been sitting on some Orioles cards, I think now is certainly a
• 57:30
  time to strike and try to move them in the market. Yeah. I
• 57:32
  think if you're listening to this pod as it comes out, the guy that
• 57:37
  I would be searching for is heestin tearstat just got called up and you know
• 57:42
  was doing well in the minors. You know, if his playing time's very
• 57:46
  unpredictable right now, we just don't know where exactly where he's going to fit
• 57:50
  in. But he's the kind of guy that could get a few good games,
• 57:53
  and his prices already kind of just jumped. But to your point,
• 57:58
  I think you make a great point. The Orioles are easy to root for,
• 58:00
  fun to root for, and that means the market, the demand for
• 58:05
  the market's going to go up, and both are gonna be buying their cards.
• 58:09
  So, yeah, any any Oriel is interesting right now, outside of
• 58:15
  maybe any of the pitchers, as we've already covered. Yeah, exactly.
• 58:20
  Okay, Well, let's get out of Baltimore now and get to the other
• 58:23
  really hot rookie striking on a third at the time who making us look like
• 58:30
  pretty good fools in terms of the fantasy analysis, and that is Elie de
• 58:35
  la Cruz from the Reds. I don't even know if I really need to
• 58:38
  explain why his market is up. If you're familiar with baseball and Eli de
• 58:44
  la Cruz, he's just a monster superstar in the making. He's got the
• 58:49
  flair, he's got the size, he's got the cannon arm, the four
• 58:52
  and fifty foot tanks and the inside of the park homers. He's just gonna
• 58:59
  be a beloved player. I think that this is the type of player too,
• 59:01
  where honestly, even if Elie de la Cruz kind of like flames out
• 59:06
  and doesn't do this long term in terms of the production, he hit another
• 59:12
  tater tonight as we're talking, So he's up to seven on the season with
• 59:15
  a one seventy nine WRC plus that it's coming together pretty well. Ellie.
• 59:22
  I think he's just enigmatic enough that like he still might hold value in the
• 59:25
  way that like, oddly I still see like Yasiel Puig hold value. That's
• 59:30
  exactly. It's strange that you'll find some of these guys where like they just
• 59:37
  won't be let go by the market. Sometimes. Jose Canseaco reminds me a
• 59:43
  little bit of this, although like Canseco actually you know, put up near
• 59:47
  Hall of Fame numbers if you know, there hadn't been the whole steroid thing
• 59:53
  about his aura. You know, he had, I think a chance to
• 59:55
  be in the conversation that you Pueags obviously not even there, but CRUs could
• 1:00:02
  I think kind of stay at that level. But his prices are through the
• 1:00:07
  roof right now because of the production. His rookie cards are in twenty twenty
• 1:00:12
  four Series one. Certainly, if you have any of those lying around,
• 1:00:16
  I would try to get those moved and listed on eBay or sold at card
• 1:00:22
  shows or traded or however you sell your cards as quickly as you can,
• 1:00:25
  because there's millions of those out there and you can find one pretty easily if
• 1:00:30
  you want one back. But the bigger part here is that he's got lots
• 1:00:37
  of Bowman first out there as well as like different variations because it was in
• 1:00:40
  the Base twenty twenty two Bowman sets, so it was very well produced.
• 1:00:47
  Again, I think if you've got Chrome and Base of those cards, those
• 1:00:52
  are the ones to be moving on from. But the big one that's actually
• 1:00:55
  up on Sports Card Investor right now is the Mojo, which I'm impressed by
• 1:01:01
  because I love the Mojo parallels all the time and it would be really hard
• 1:01:06
  for me to part if I owned one of those Elie Mojo refractors. What
• 1:01:08
  about you, well, I think Gritty covered that I have no soul,
• 1:01:13
  so that would have been sold like yesterday. How you wouldn't even have You
• 1:01:19
  don''t even have it, Ellis, you probably don't have any to you?
• 1:01:22
  No, I actually I think I do. Actually I think I have maybe
• 1:01:25
  a base or two to your point earlier. Like again, you and I
• 1:01:30
  are both just collectors at heart, and so I do have I tend to
• 1:01:34
  hold on to like a first bowman, a rookie of all the key guys,
• 1:01:38
  and they go back like two years later and be like man and I
• 1:01:42
  was really open, Abraham Torro was gonna work out and didn't didn't come to
• 1:01:45
  fruition, right. But I think you know you're right like Ellie right now
• 1:01:51
  is it's an absolute cell just because of how how how crazy his his season's
• 1:01:59
  been, and he's getting like that second bump, like not the call up
• 1:02:04
  bump. The interesting thing is like it tells you still how much cards are
• 1:02:08
  valued when they come out in the first place. Like Elie's first bow and
• 1:02:13
  Chrome was like a twenty dollars card when it first came out when you first
• 1:02:15
  ripped twenty twenty two. It's not even to the twenty dollar point at this
• 1:02:19
  point, even with everything he's doing, like because the overproduction is still like
• 1:02:23
  a maybe a fifteen to twenty dollars card, Like it's almost level to where
• 1:02:27
  it was, even though it's really jumped up. What I think is really
• 1:02:30
  interesting with Ellie is. He seems to be encroaching on a very interesting part
• 1:02:35
  of the hobby, which is base card value. His base cards or insert
• 1:02:39
  cards having value. It's like Otani, Trout, Sodo, those guys where
• 1:02:45
  they just have a cool base card and folks want it like heritage. You
• 1:02:50
  know, I just ripped some heritage and I had pulled the Otani out is
• 1:02:52
  the base card, and everybody wants it. It's a three four dollars card
• 1:02:58
  just because it's Otani and Dodgers and the cool heritage design, right, And
• 1:03:02
  so Ellie's starting to kind of creep into that realm right now. I don't
• 1:03:08
  know if you'll stay there, but he's become a collectible past the rookie card,
• 1:03:13
  past the first bowman, and so I think that's the space to be
• 1:03:16
  to be watching. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's a great call.
• 1:03:22
  And in terms of going forward, I mean, I think it also
• 1:03:24
  gives a little bit of a boost for all twenty twenty four product that you're
• 1:03:29
  ripping in terms of, like we've reiterated on this show, like the best
• 1:03:32
  time to sells, you know, the week of the product coming out,
• 1:03:37
  and then it just kind of like progressively goes down a ramp for the first
• 1:03:44
  six to eight weeks until it levels off after you know, about six or
• 1:03:47
  eight weeks. But you've got to get the cards sold within that little window,
• 1:03:52
  and especially if you've got inserts or different parallels of allegited crews that you
• 1:03:59
  might get in some of these sets, like it does provide a little bit
• 1:04:02
  of a boost when you're going through and ripping, which is is nice to
• 1:04:05
  be able to have that because some of the sets that have come out over
• 1:04:11
  the past few years haven't had a rookie like that buried in there where you
• 1:04:15
  could always guarantee getting you know, five to ten bucks back for one of
• 1:04:18
  your cards. Yep, absolutely so, yep, at least to be fun.
• 1:04:21
  But he is definitely a sell right now. Just the market's just too
• 1:04:25
  hot. Okay. Yeah, So now we're going to get into i think
• 1:04:29
  probably one of the biggest cells that we've got, and you alluded it to
• 1:04:32
  it, I'll actually let you kick it off in terms of Michael Bush,
• 1:04:38
  who moved from the Dodgers to the Cubs in the off season and obviously has
• 1:04:44
  started hot out of the gate. But what do you think about the Michael
• 1:04:46
  Busch cards that are out there and give us a little background on what they've
• 1:04:49
  been doing in the market. Yeah, so Michael Bush is he's gone crazy
• 1:04:57
  as far as his up hitting has been concerned with the Cubs. And I
• 1:05:02
  actually was being chastised in the comments of my top one hundred hitter article for
• 1:05:06
  not putting Michael Bush in the top one hundred hitters. And you know,
• 1:05:12
  he he doesn't look as scary under the covers as a few of these other
• 1:05:15
  guys that we talked about, like Kowser. But I'm just it's still I'm
• 1:05:19
  it's Michael Bush. I'm just I'm not I'm not there. Like he might
• 1:05:24
  end up being a useful player, but he's not going to be an All
• 1:05:27
  Star. And so when you when you look at it Bush, you know,
• 1:05:30
  and I'm just looking at his his first first Bowman. You know,
• 1:05:34
  Michael Bush was a guy that you could buy for for nothing. You know,
• 1:05:39
  go back about a month ago. His cards were like twenty bucks his
• 1:05:44
  first Bowman autos or like twenty bucks. And but you remember, like he's
• 1:05:48
  in he was in his Dodgers uniform and he went from big, big market
• 1:05:53
  the Dodgers to big market in the Cubs and there's like this crossover, right
• 1:05:57
  for folks still collect any of their plays in the Jersey when it was their
• 1:06:00
  old player, and then you got a new market, and both those are
• 1:06:03
  huge markets. So with him getting hot and you know, look at the
• 1:06:08
  stats. So he's hit six homers across the first you know, twenty games,
• 1:06:12
  he's knocked in fifteen, hitting three or nine. You know, he's
• 1:06:15
  he's he's doing just fine, and he's kind of infringed himself that first moment
• 1:06:20
  that was you know, twenty bucks is now up to almost sixty and was
• 1:06:26
  kind of peak peaking around like the seventy dollars mark. And so we're we're
• 1:06:30
  talking about a card that you know, going back even before about a month
• 1:06:35
  ago when he was making the roster, I think, I think I remember
• 1:06:40
  seeing Michael Bush cars like five ten dollars, like the autumns like it was
• 1:06:45
  it was just dirt cheap, and so they are sky high. That's like
• 1:06:47
  a six to seven time return. And this is this is the biggest sell
• 1:06:54
  of anybody I think on this list, I am running and selling all Michael.
• 1:07:00
  I probably don't realize if I have Michael Busch cards like that's that's the
• 1:07:02
  problem. Like there's those guys where you're just like, well, I Anastacity's
• 1:07:05
  just in case. Like Michael Busch wasn't even on the just in case group.
• 1:07:09
  It was just like, Eh, he's in Dodger Blue. Maybe that
• 1:07:13
  means something. And so yeah, I'm the market is jumping up. It's
• 1:07:18
  like it's up like over two hundred percent across that time. But it's gonna
• 1:07:23
  it's gonna come. It's gonna come tumbling back down before too long when he
• 1:07:28
  kind of cools into kind of standard even if he still plays well, it's
• 1:07:31
  just gonna cool once once he gets to a little bit more regular performance at
• 1:07:38
  the end of the day. So I don't know, do you have any
• 1:07:39
  Michael Busch cards. If you do, are you selling? Uh, that's
• 1:07:43
  a good question whether or not I do, because especially compared to the other
• 1:07:47
  players that we've talked here, it is the furthest back Bowman. He was
• 1:07:51
  in the twenty nineteen Bowman draft set. So if you are collecting cards like
• 1:07:57
  he might be just tucked back in a box for the past five years.
• 1:08:00
  As not to mention like the twenty nineteen Bowman, the gross design. Not
• 1:08:09
  that I'm a big fan of like money at the Bowman designs, but that
• 1:08:12
  one was was rough. And so there's plenty of those Bowmans that I've got
• 1:08:17
  sitting around and haven't looked at, because like they're certainly not on like the
• 1:08:24
  upper ends of my list of like the cards that I like to look at
• 1:08:27
  when you know you're cracking open your boxes and like just kind of want to
• 1:08:30
  look at some of the cool cards he owned. So yeah, honestly,
• 1:08:33
  I've probably got a couple of those twenty nineteen Bowman's stashed away somewhere that I've
• 1:08:40
  got to go dig out, because, like you said, I think even
• 1:08:44
  compared to Kowser, Bush is an easier sell because he's also two years older.
• 1:08:49
  Like that is a part A lot of the problem is that like if
• 1:08:54
  you are looking for times to sell on these players, like you only get
• 1:08:58
  a couple times between a few hot streaks before the market just kind of bombs
• 1:09:03
  back out and sends the base of that Bowman Chrome card even back down to
• 1:09:10
  just a few bucks. Yep, I think you're right, and so sell,
• 1:09:15
  sell, sell, Okay, Well, the next one is I think
• 1:09:18
  this was just more of a fun one just to call out Arizona Diamondbacks Blaze
• 1:09:24
  Alexander he made our list that he his market has been significantly up to as
• 1:09:29
  he has subbed in at shortstop for Heraldo Perdomo and looked pretty dang good doing
• 1:09:33
  it. Honestly that I think that he's going to be a solid player,
• 1:09:39
  like role player for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Honestly, he's got a pretty cool
• 1:09:43
  auto too. But he was also in the twenty nineteen Bowman set. But
• 1:09:47
  he was in just Base twenty nineteen Bowmen, So I know I've got some
• 1:09:51
  of these buried somewhere that I've got to go dig them out after the show.
• 1:09:56
  I think this is just another reminder too that, hey, his market
• 1:09:59
  is been significantly up that you know, over the past thirty days. It
• 1:10:02
  looks like his auto is off roughly seventy five percent. We're actually probably talking
• 1:10:08
  right now about Bard's the peak of his hot streak, so maybe it's even
• 1:10:14
  going to be in the downs up a little bit after this. But uh,
• 1:10:16
  what about you do you you've probably got some Blaze Alexander's too. It
• 1:10:19
  says I was just in Base twenty nineteen Bowman. Yeah, I know I've
• 1:10:25
  got a few of them. You know I and I, but I also
• 1:10:29
  know I've sold some of the past because like I remember, like seeing the
• 1:10:31
  Blaze Alexander looks like he's twelve in his it's been trying to shop. No,
• 1:10:38
  it's not like the helmet does one size too large. It's just it's
• 1:10:43
  just it's not great. But you know he's I think this goes to show
• 1:10:47
  you the markets matter, like the fan based matters, because I don't think
• 1:10:51
  Blaizelexander and Michael Bush are that different. Like at the end of the day,
• 1:10:56
  now Bush has been a little hotter, if you may, and he's
• 1:11:00
  maybe a little bit better pedigree things like that, but I don't think it's
• 1:11:02
  that drastically different. But you're talking about Blaze Alexander cards for half the cost
• 1:11:09
  of Michael Bush cards, and I think that really plays into you're talking about
• 1:11:11
  Arizona against the some LA and the Chicago markets that really do drive some of
• 1:11:16
  that demand. So I'm with you. There's also a little like his auto
• 1:11:21
  is awesome, That's there's something to be said for for that. When Michael
• 1:11:28
  Bush is like I think he just like scribbled and you literally I don't think
• 1:11:32
  there's a single letter in his auto so you know, it's it's not Randy
• 1:11:36
  Rose Arena style by any means. But Blaze another guy that you know,
• 1:11:42
  he's getting a little little hype a little by he got the call up and
• 1:11:45
  he's he's made a little noise. Again. I think it's gonna be on
• 1:11:48
  the downslope, like you said, So it's it's not something that you want
• 1:11:50
  to rely on, but if you're it's always fun to go back and look
• 1:11:55
  like these are the cards that when you're at a show or a card shop
• 1:11:58
  and you you hit like twenty nineteen Bowmen, like through some random box,
• 1:12:00
  it's like you're looking like, where's my Blaze Alexander, Like, where where's
• 1:12:04
  that at? Because nobody's gonna reprice Blaze Alexander and you even look at it,
• 1:12:09
  go, I'm not even gonna go spend my time to go reprise Blaze
• 1:12:11
  Alexander because you know, thirty days he's gonna be back where he was.
• 1:12:15
  But that's the that's the beauty of the card world that you know you want
• 1:12:19
  that you want the hot guy, So yeah, exactly, and getting into
• 1:12:26
  another really hot rookie next and I'm gonna pair up another couple of guys here
• 1:12:31
  again, So we have Jackson Cheerio from the Brewers, but also I mean
• 1:12:36
  he is off to a hot start in high A ball is a high A
• 1:12:41
  or singlely let me check it again, it is it's actually just single A.
• 1:12:44
  His brother, Jason Cheerio is off to a three ten, five hundred
• 1:12:49
  five seventy one start in single A for the Cleveland Guardians, but his market
• 1:12:55
  has been shooting up to along with Jackson Cheerio. My question here is how
• 1:13:00
  many people do you think are out there buying Jason Churio's not realizing that it's
• 1:13:05
  not Jackson Cheerio. Yeah. I think that there's definitely a risk of people
• 1:13:13
  getting these guys confused, So I don't know how well they're gonna, you
• 1:13:17
  know, be able to I think the Jason his mark is actually be the
• 1:13:25
  worse because it's gonna be convoluted and messed up because of Jackson. I don't
• 1:13:30
  think it's gonna get that same hype. So, yeah, both of these
• 1:13:33
  guys are really interesting, especially because Jackson signed his extension early, so it
• 1:13:38
  kind of got that or like they call up through the contract in a way.
• 1:13:42
  So his his market has been a little more level, even though it
• 1:13:44
  has gone. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, And even with that,
• 1:13:49
  like Jackson Cheerio, I I do like him if you're trying to look for
• 1:13:54
  a longer term hoold a little bit more like the Jackson Holliday because he has
• 1:14:00
  just the ability to be a different level of a superstar Jason Cherio. I
• 1:14:03
  think part of it too is like there just aren't very many Jason Cherio cards
• 1:14:08
  out there, and I think that there's a little bit of you actually saw
• 1:14:12
  this with Ronald Lacuna's little brother a couple of years ago, where once Ronald
• 1:14:17
  Lacunya was really taking that star turn, people started flocking to his brother's cards
• 1:14:23
  as well as like picking up his brother in fantasy circles. And I do
• 1:14:28
  honestly think though that like Jason Cherio has more upside than ronaldal Cunya's little brother,
• 1:14:33
  because I mean, he has been streading the minor leagues and all of
• 1:14:39
  the reports have been pretty good that like, I'm just not sure if I
• 1:14:44
  now would be the time to invest in Jason Cherio if you're looking to make
• 1:14:48
  a move to add him to your PC, or honestly maybe even from a
• 1:14:53
  fantasy perspective too, because it seems like the coattails of Jackson Cheerio have kind
• 1:15:00
  of intermingled with Jason Juril and it's really convoluted that market overall. That you've
• 1:15:05
  got to, I think wait for a little bit more of a deviation to
• 1:15:11
  show up where people start putting them in separate buckets and not really considering them
• 1:15:15
  a pair together the way that we just have here, before you start making
• 1:15:19
  any moves into the Jason Murial market. Yeah, I'm kind of I'm saying
• 1:15:25
  off of them for now, so it'll be interesting. Okay. The next
• 1:15:30
  one we have is a veteran, actually big time veteran, and I wanted
• 1:15:36
  to bring this one up because Mike Trout's market is back up that the rookie
• 1:15:43
  cards, especially for the Bowman and Tops cards started falling a lot last year
• 1:15:49
  after his injury with the back and with the handmate bone, and it just
• 1:15:57
  this is a card that both cards were only significantly kind of like kept creeping
• 1:16:01
  up, creeping up, creeping up in the way that lots of like Mickey
• 1:16:05
  Mantles from the past kind of have like always trajected up in much of the
• 1:16:11
  same way where you know, very popular player in Mike Trout Inner Circle Hall
• 1:16:15
  of Famer doesn't have the Yankees mystique, but certainly I think is going to
• 1:16:21
  be the defining player of this era when we look back on it. And
• 1:16:26
  so because of that, it looked like a pretty solid investment piece for any
• 1:16:30
  collection to go get a Mike Trout rookie card, because it just never looked
• 1:16:35
  like it was going to go down, and then it did dip. And
• 1:16:39
  I'm sorry to regret that I didn't maybe like get in on one of them
• 1:16:42
  when it did dip, because I think it has rebounded now with Mike Trout's
• 1:16:46
  nice start to the season. Yeah, I kind of did the same thing.
• 1:16:49
  I bought, uh like Trout rookie how maybe two years ago or something
• 1:16:55
  like that, And I would say it was kind of the market was middle
• 1:16:58
  of where it was overall for him, and some of the I would say,
• 1:17:00
  the not flagship rookies like your Bowman rookies things like that had definitely dropped
• 1:17:05
  in a very much more reasonable spot to get that. So you know it
• 1:17:12
  is, You're right, I think that you lost the chance to buy the
• 1:17:16
  dip on Mike Trout. Like there's a dip on Mike Trout that just doesn't
• 1:17:18
  make any sense. That's that's kind of unfortunate. But you know, I
• 1:17:26
  think he is one of the most reliable long term bets in the market.
• 1:17:30
  I think the same can be said for like a Wan Soda or something like
• 1:17:33
  that as well. His who's has dropped at the same time, and I
• 1:17:39
  think his will start to rebound as well. But yeah, it's Mike Trout
• 1:17:43
  rookie cards. If you want to what you know, you got to spend
• 1:17:45
  what you know, seven eight hundred dollars to get one of those. Yeah,
• 1:17:50
  when you talk about the markets, the Angels aren't a big market for
• 1:17:56
  cards, but the entire population of base all fans is and that's that's who
• 1:18:01
  wants to like Mike Trout. And I think you and I have sold a
• 1:18:04
  card shows before, like one of the most asked for players out there,
• 1:18:09
  inserts based cards, rookies, whatever it is. Everybody just wants to say,
• 1:18:13
  do you have Mike Trout? And so I'm I have the rookie card.
• 1:18:18
  You know, it's not greatable by any means. It's the only way
• 1:18:21
  I could afford it, but it's a staple of the collection. And I
• 1:18:28
  guess if you wanted to sell now you could, but it's I think it's
• 1:18:30
  got long term value. I do too that I think that like if you
• 1:18:34
  were able to buy during that dip, especially, like kudos to you.
• 1:18:39
  And I don't know if it will be dipping again anytime soon because it almost
• 1:18:44
  it's like Griffy too, where people I think always will put a Griffy in
• 1:18:47
  their collection. That I think people are the same with Mike Trout, where
• 1:18:51
  it doesn't matter what card it is, there's always a spot for it in
• 1:18:56
  my collection. Yeah. Absolutely, Griffy out those guys, there's always a
• 1:19:00
  spot. Yeah. Okay, well, I mean we mixed it up there
• 1:19:04
  a little bit with Mike Traut. So let's get back to the hot young
• 1:19:09
  player. Start says, You've noticed a lot in this player's market with Evon
• 1:19:13
  Herrera, the catcher for the Cardinals. His market has been going pretty bananas
• 1:19:18
  recently, So tune us into it. Yeah, you know Evon Herrera.
• 1:19:23
  And this is again, this is where you're just kind of keeping an eye
• 1:19:26
  on eBay or Twitter or whatnot. I just noticed that, you know,
• 1:19:29
  Herrera's name was coming up in a lot of circles in card sales, and
• 1:19:33
  it's just like that find finds interesting, I think with with Contreras having some
• 1:19:38
  injuries and Herrera being that kind of next who is supposed to be the replacement
• 1:19:43
  for Molinau had had shown pretty pretty well with some of those Contrares's injuries,
• 1:19:48
  his card had jumped and so you know he's one of those that looking at
• 1:19:53
  his like first his first Bowman auto, you know that was you know a
• 1:19:59
  card that you could by the you know, call it ten dollars, five
• 1:20:02
  dollars, something like that. Over the last over the off season, like
• 1:20:06
  it looked like he was passed by by the Cardinals, and I honestly think
• 1:20:11
  he probably still is. But his car jumped up and it you know,
• 1:20:15
  at one point it you know, there's even some sales out there of like
• 1:20:19
  forty or fifty dollars on that first Bowmon auto for von Herrera, and that's
• 1:20:24
  really just showing like the strong and the Cardinals have a strong buying car hobby
• 1:20:29
  base, which will we'll flip that up, but just that you know,
• 1:20:33
  get there, get their hot and h seemed like there's a path to playing
• 1:20:38
  time. He was even getting some d H type opportunities with uh flipping in
• 1:20:43
  and out with Contreras, so I think that's the playing time, some good
• 1:20:48
  results and having some pedigree of like be the Molina replacement definitely has helped Herrera.
• 1:20:55
  The thing is with Herrera, like his playing time path is going to
• 1:20:59
  decrease as people get healthy, and so I don't think that this is going
• 1:21:02
  to last. So I think it's a this is again a short blip,
• 1:21:04
  which is just kind of like being called up, like he's been up and
• 1:21:08
  down a lot, but all of a sudden get a chance to perform and
• 1:21:11
  do well. You folks that are collecting that team specifically, especially at this
• 1:21:15
  price, when you're talking maybe a thirty four, you know, thirty forty
• 1:21:18
  dollars auto, they're like, yeah, I gotta, I gotta get that
• 1:21:21
  first. If I didn't already have my collection. So I personally have sold
• 1:21:26
  a few horrers. Like I said, I have no soul with my with
• 1:21:30
  my favorite teams. But it's one of those Sell it now for twenty thirty
• 1:21:34
  bucks, come back and a dollar ben here in a few months, buy
• 1:21:39
  Herrera Auto for five bucks, and nobody's the wiser. Yeah, And I
• 1:21:44
  mean as a serious investor in Dylan Carlson and just seeing like honestly, the
• 1:21:49
  Cardinals have not been great at developing young players over the past four or five
• 1:21:55
  years, and so it is certainly one where I think it's Herrera. I
• 1:22:01
  mean, I know, I've got to go dig some out after this conversation
• 1:22:04
  as well, that he was a little bit forgotten I think over maybe the
• 1:22:10
  past year or two in terms of card collecting for Cardinals PC years out there,
• 1:22:15
  but now that he has looked much better, and I just like,
• 1:22:20
  I don't know, like what the long term career for Yvon Herrera really ever
• 1:22:27
  is that you can he's are his prices are already shooting past like what in
• 1:22:31
  All Star, multiple time All Star player for the Cardinals would settle at.
• 1:22:35
  And so yeah, you've got to jump at the chance to be able to
• 1:22:39
  move those on now. So certainly another player that we are selling, yep,
• 1:22:44
  and he's he's gotten cold for the last week, so we're down,
• 1:22:46
  we're on the down spin of that, but he's the playing time is still
• 1:22:50
  there. To your point, if anything, I need the Cardinals to kick
• 1:22:55
  Dill Carson in the pants. Not gonna be a millionaire, yes exactly,
• 1:22:59
  Yeah, we would we need to be doing this podcast anymore. We would
• 1:23:01
  be in Tahiti or something. No, we're still probably doing a pod podcast
• 1:23:06
  until he Okay, well let's get to that one pitcher that we alluded to.
• 1:23:13
  And I think this is also a great kind of showing of like how
• 1:23:16
  quickly the baseball card market can move nowadays, because his market has been up,
• 1:23:24
  especially since he just had like the good outing on Sunday, and a
• 1:23:29
  little bit going back to before that outing on Tuesday was actually solid that we're
• 1:23:33
  talking about Casey Mice from the Detroit Tigers. As he pitched six shutout innings
• 1:23:39
  on Sunday, you could see that his market flipped back up. You know,
• 1:23:43
  he was a former number one pick and so he had a lot of
• 1:23:45
  initial investment when his first card came out with Actually, yeah, this one's
• 1:23:50
  ancient history. Twenty eighteen Bowman Draft is where Casey Mice's first Bowman Chrome is
• 1:23:57
  included. But his rookie cards are in twenty twenty. Yeah, twenty twenty
• 1:24:03
  because this is the same year as Dan Carlson. So I know, like,
• 1:24:08
  especially when we were doing the research for this pod, like I'm going
• 1:24:13
  to be going through I've got a lot of Casey Mice cards because I've ripped
• 1:24:16
  a lot of twenty twenty sets and have all sorts of inserts and parallels and
• 1:24:21
  all sorts of kind of just non base Casey Mice cards. But I think
• 1:24:28
  this is also just a heartening story in terms of Casey Mice coming back,
• 1:24:30
  because I've also been starting to pick him up in fantasy circles too, because
• 1:24:36
  he has looked really stellar on the mound. But I think, as we've
• 1:24:42
  discussed with pictures in general for card collecting and have even kind of preached with
• 1:24:47
  pictures in terms of dynasty and fantasy terms, that like, you've got to
• 1:24:53
  be pretty sober about your assessments with pictures, just knowing how quickly can all
• 1:24:58
  unravel. But kind of had to give Casey Mais a quick shout out because
• 1:25:01
  Yeah, you go to his sports card investor page and it's a pretty straight
• 1:25:05
  hockey stick up over the past month as people have been buying back in,
• 1:25:10
  Yeah, you're right, and it's it's just one of those that's that's where
• 1:25:14
  the hobby can kind of go crazy, is you know, looking at some
• 1:25:18
  of Keathy MAI's his first autos, like back in February, we're talking like
• 1:25:23
  twenty dollars cards, and you know, it's crazy our first overall pick.
• 1:25:28
  Yeah, and I think that's part of what the first overall pick going into
• 1:25:30
  that is driving. But now some of those you know, PSA tens and
• 1:25:34
  stuff like that, you're you're talking maybe one hundred bucks that's going out there,
• 1:25:38
  or actually one of them sold for almost two hundred, Like it's just
• 1:25:41
  you know, is I think it's partially that pedigree plays a big factor on
• 1:25:45
  some of these guys that they show that they might actually be realizing that benefit.
• 1:25:49
  Like I think collectors like want to jump back in really quickly. I
• 1:25:54
  think that this actually brings a lot of the things that we've talked about tonight
• 1:25:58
  together. It's just like pictures not a great investment from a card perspective,
• 1:26:01
  performance and pedigree really can drive the prices up. And so you look at
• 1:26:06
  myze right now, and if his cards do continue to do what they're doing,
• 1:26:11
  a point is a hockey stick right now, Like if he keeps pitching
• 1:26:13
  well, and I don't, I'm not terribly excited from a fantasy perspective,
• 1:26:17
  I just he still hasn't really shown to me that he's he's fully back or
• 1:26:23
  who he needs to be. But if the hockey sip keeps going up.
• 1:26:26
  He has another two three starts where he give up one or no runs.
• 1:26:30
  Like the prices are gonna are gonna climb pretty substantially for myz And he's really
• 1:26:34
  from a card perspective, just fluttered for years. Just the value hasn't been
• 1:26:40
  there. It seems like it should be, should be, should be,
• 1:26:43
  Like this is probably the time to sell on something like that, because again,
• 1:26:45
  pitchers just don't hold their value. So when it spikes, you got
• 1:26:48
  it, you gotta go. So I think you both I have both in
• 1:26:51
  this podcast in a few minutes here, and get off and go start throwing
• 1:26:55
  boxes, yeah, and find out what we got. Yeah. And I
• 1:27:00
  think this will be a little helpful, you know, if you're just getting
• 1:27:02
  into card collecting or looking you know, how to maybe do some flipping.
• 1:27:08
  That what you've heard in terms of like how we've evaluated these players you can
• 1:27:12
  keep in mind as the rest of the season goes on, because and especially
• 1:27:15
  with Mace, this is a great, you know example of it doesn't take
• 1:27:18
  more than just one or two hot performances or really stand up performances for the
• 1:27:26
  market to move on these players. That people snatch up stuff pretty quickly on
• 1:27:30
  eBay once players show like something that makes them a little bit collectible, and
• 1:27:34
  you got to be able to move and jump on those markets when we can.
• 1:27:40
  So hopefully that can help everybody out there in the future in terms of
• 1:27:44
  looking to invest in certain players and know when to sort back through your boxes.
• 1:27:50
  But yeah, with that, brew let's wrap it up for this week
• 1:27:53
  and remind people where they can find you. Yep, find me over on
• 1:27:57
  Twitter slash ex Jaybrewer one seven buy me on the weekends doing the hitter profiles
• 1:28:01
  top one hundred hitter rankings for the rest of the season on ras ball generally
• 1:28:05
  on the Sundays as long as I hit my deadlines. Don't tell Blair about
• 1:28:11
  that. But yeah, you can always reach out, jump on articles.
• 1:28:15
  This is I think one of my favorite times in the season being a writer
• 1:28:17
  is the engagements the most it is and so come out read the articles,
• 1:28:21
  tell us we don't know what we're talking about, or ask your questions you
• 1:28:25
  have any interactions, A good interaction, how about you. You can find
• 1:28:30
  me also on rasball on weekends on Saturdays though, doing the waiver wire reports
• 1:28:35
  where yeah, I'm sure all the dudes that we suggested earlier for your injured
• 1:28:42
  sub ins will be have totally changed by Saturday when I run. So it
• 1:28:45
  is a very it's a process where I feel like I'm constantly changed to my
• 1:28:50
  tail, but it's a fun one to check in and see who might be
• 1:28:55
  available in leagues out there and give you suggestions on who to pick up.
• 1:29:00
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• 1:29:03
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• 1:29:15
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• 1:29:18
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• 1:29:25
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• 1:29:29
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• 1:29:32
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• 1:29:35
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• 1:29:45
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• 1:29:51
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