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Scott Dochterman on the Big Ten & Hawkeyes, Bill Seals talks Cyclones in the NCAAs & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2 Miller and Cond in Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent and Con with you until 2. Trent and Ken with you until 2.
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You're Ken. I am Trent's plays of the day
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15125 ish. Bill Seals on Iowa State right
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now. Scott Dachman was in Chicago for
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the Big 10 tournament. He joins the program.
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Doc, Trent and Ken, thanks for coming on.
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How are you? You know, I'm pretty beat up.
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It's been a long couple of weeks from the week in Indianapolis
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and almost a full week in Chicago for the Big 10
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tournament. And now I this week I'm going to
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be like a lot of America and just watch it from my own home.
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Yeah, you can't beat that. No doubt about.
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Well, let's go back to Chicago. We saw Purdue in Michigan.
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A really good final is Purdue prevails.
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This was a team that I don't think many people felt real
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confident about heading into the NCAA Tournament that for
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whatever reason, Purdue was, you know what, they were a preseason
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favorite, one of the teams that a lot of people identified this
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is going to be their year, blah, blah, blah.
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Did not look good, but all of a sudden turned it around.
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What did Painter say or what did you see?
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What was behind Purdue getting back up on top and cutting down
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the Nets in Chicago? They're just very efficient.
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We saw it over the the span of the four day tournament that
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every time, I mean, Purdue has, you know, one of the most
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veteran teams in the country. I mean, two years ago they were
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in the national title game. You know, this year, as you
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said, they don't, they're the preseason #1 we have Braden
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Smith who's one assist shy of tying Bobby Hurley's all time
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record that these guys have been around and they know how to kind
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of turn it on. But over the last, you know, 13,
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I think regular season games, there were six and seven.
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And you just kind of wondered, are they running in neutral here
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or is it more of a matter of they're playing a lot of good
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teams and if they're just splitting these games and and
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there's a little bit of both there.
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But once they got to Chicago, you saw kind of that, you know,
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Purdue return. Do you know what they played?
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Northwestern, who's a pretty good, bad team.
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Well put. Yeah, they they.
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They've actually, you know, they got a good, you know, really
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good player, Mark Nellie and and they're better than their
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record. But you know, Purdue played
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well. And then then they really turn
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it on when they played Nebraska, you know, UCLA was banged up.
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And then when you get to that final and everybody's kind of
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sore, you just kind of wonder what efforts going to be there
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in the Michigan. I didn't really see a a spirited
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effort throughout. I thought, you know, Wisconsin,
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they had it under control and nearly got beat in Ohio State.
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You know, they only won by three.
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And then then of course, in the final, I don't know, they just
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didn't quite match Purdue. But Purdue is a, a team that
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that's more than capable of of winning all the way into the
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second weekend and and potentially the third.
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But I just don't know if they have the the the score that can
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really take him over the top. We saw Wisconsin give them
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another game. Of course, they handed them
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their first regular season lost the Wolverines.
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Wisconsin did way back in Ann Arbor a couple of months ago.
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This Wisconsin team and it's kind of Jekyll and high the
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times for them. They have some head scratching
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losses in there. But when they're going in the
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way that those two guards can get downhill with Boyd and both
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Blackwell, they're incredibly difficult.
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If you're looking at that next tier, a Big 10 team, would it be
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Wisconsin or is there somebody else that caught your eye that
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could make a deep run, maybe get to an?
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There, there are two teams that I probably am a little more
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confident in than a few of the teams above that that they can
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get, you know, Sweet 16 and then see what happens.
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And, and I would say Wisconsin is certainly at the top of the
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list that they have really played well the last month,
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month and 1/2. As you mentioned, you know, they
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they need Michigan and then you know what was right there with
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them the other day and then maybe could have been should
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have beaten Michigan in in the semifinals there.
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I mean last second three by Lindenberg is what kept them
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out. But but the way that they
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performed and you know, they beaten they won at Purdue, they
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beat Illinois in overtime. You know, they they really
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looked good. Michigan State and Illinois
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during the regular season, I really like the way they're
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playing. And of course, if if rap Austin
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rap hits five straight 3 pointers again against anybody,
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you know that they may not only be in the Sweet 16, they might
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be able to upset their way and it'll be on that.
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But and the other one is UCLA and that's going to be help
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dependent. But the way that the Bruins were
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playing, I I would not rule them out beating Nukon, especially if
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Donovan Bent is playing. And then in Michigan State again
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in the Sweet 16, I think that they could beat Michigan State
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again and with Duke and its injuries it it wouldn't be far
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fetched to think that they could somehow finagle that.
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Unless you and I of course goes to lead A.
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Yeah, it wouldn't be bad either, Doc UCLAI got to chuckle out of
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seeing them getting shipped east and if they get to the second
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weekend, have to go E again because Mick Cronin, boy, is he
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cranky. Doc, you are no shrinking Violet
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when it comes to talking with coaches.
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We've seen in the past that you're certainly not going to
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back down and you're willing to ask tough questions.
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But what do you go into a place like that?
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It's not like he covered Mick Cronin, you know, on a weekly
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basis or even sometimes a yearly basis.
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What is it like for you as a reporter?
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What do you know, this guy's going to be on edge.
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Is it, hey, I got to make sure my question is absolutely lock
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stock ready to go. Is it different when you go in
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with somebody that is like Mick Cronin?
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Yeah, and it depends on the situation because if he loses or
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if he's cranky, then, you know, you probably need to be more
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direct. You can't, you know, kind of
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leave it open-ended because you'll take the one where he
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reminds me a lot of Beau Ryan that way.
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And Beau would, if he wanted to be a condescending, you know
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what he could be. And he was.
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And he was to me. And it really irritated me.
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I'll say it in other words, too, but but you know, he he's Bo was
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that way. And and I think Mick Cronin is
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too, just kind of an edgy guy. He likes to give it back to
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people, but he's got a, you know, kind of a chronic
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complainer. But I had a side interview with
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him because I did a story about the scheduling year 2 of, of Big
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10 basketball and what they're looking at going forward in
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certain areas. And I, I had him on the side for
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a good 10 minutes. And I thought he was, he was
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awesome. I mean, you know, some of the
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things he talked about, you know, he was like, you know,
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first of all, they got to blow up college basketball.
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I don't think that's going to happen, especially now that
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you're in the Big 10, but you know, just some of the other
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aspects of, you know, travel and, and because they were one
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in six in the Big 10 when they traveled east and, you know, and
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they won two games in the tournament.
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So that that tripled their number basically.
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But but they, you know, but he's also like, you know what though?
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We we played good teams and they beat us, you know, there.
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And so I think he's, you know, he can be a pain.
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You do have to be direct a lot of times.
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I'll write those out rather than just kind of RIP it, RIP it.
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But whereas Matt Painter is is one of the easiest guys to talk
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to in the world and, and if you ask him a question, he kind of
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knows where you're going with it.
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What did you what was your take away from that piece talk of the
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people of of the travel mean you mentioned Cronin going east,
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kind of like ferrets going West, similar struggles.
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What can be done? Doc, what was your take away
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from that piece as you put it together?
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Yeah, there are a lot of different ideas that they're
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floating around and, and some of it in my own, but also some of
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theirs that they speculated is moving potentially more Big 10
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games into December. You know when these teams,
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especially the ones that are on quarters, they get done in
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around December 12th and then they go back to school January
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5th. And that just seems to be a
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really big opening that they can move a few more Big 10 games in
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for some of these teams that that's one, there will be more 1
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offs in in February like we saw with Duke, Michigan and
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Virginia, Ohio State, they, they like the way that's being set up
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scheduling wise and and ratings wise.
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So you're going to see more of that too.
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And you know, it's just, but they're also, they know they got
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kind of a compact calendar and next year they go to 32 games
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down there, like 31 in the regular season, they're going to
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32. So they got some things to
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juggle. And then, you know, also, I, I
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hadn't focused a lot on the TV draft, but because I brought up,
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you know, Peacock and all that and the the three networks have
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39 games combined among them each draft 13 and then the rest
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go to, you know, Big 10 network and kind of get moved around.
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But but think things like a Purdue and then, you know,
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Purdue, Indiana, Where does it go?
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Well, it's going to end up in that draft.
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And, and if they want to move games into December, they're
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going up against the NFL, they're going up against college
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football. And all of the coaches I talked
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to, the West Coast ones were just really mixed and what they
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wanted because like Danny Sprinkle from from Washington's,
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like I love going to these environments.
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I want to go to them when the students are there and you know,
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and Eric Muscle like I want to have a four-game road trip or A5
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game road trip, you know, to because these are just too far
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for us and but none of them can agree on it.
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So we'll we'll see what this offseason brings.
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But it was certainly a fascinating look for me and and
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discussion with all of them because they had such incredibly
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different idea. Yeah, the muscleman thing,
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talking about a three or even A5 game road trip, just going out
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there and kind of knocking a bunch out at a time.
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I, I think in a way that could make a whole lot of sense.
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We know that the Midwest and East Coast schools, when they go
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out West, they play 2 games out there.
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What other thing that you mentioned in the piece is
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college basketball as a whole of expanding thing?
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And there's been a lot of talk after the buzz that the Duke
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Michigan game got, we go back to Chris Street's last game.
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That was a January game that was played with Iowan Duke.
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And certainly not even the kind of headliner that you had those
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CBS had the coverage of that one.
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Is there a path to make something like that happening,
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DACA a path that you get both the people involved with all the
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conferences, but also it's got to be a money maker, right?
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For the people outside that we are going to see more of these
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one off non conference games. For sure there will be and, and,
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and Brad Taylor, who who schedules basketball, said there
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will be more of those one offs because they do they generate a
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lot of interest. And, and I think so at that time
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of year, and I think this is maybe a little more my view that
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as opposed to anything else. It's, it's like, why not move,
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you know, as many as six Big 10 games before January, You know,
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whether it's maybe even 2IN in in November, if we're going to
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start the first week of November, then why have the, why
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you have to wait practically 2 months before you get really
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into the season? The, the other thing and to me,
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I think college basketball is missing its opportunity big time
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Feast week has been fun and great, but it's always
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overlooked because it's college football rivalry weekend.
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Everybody's talking about the CFP rankings and OK, great,
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there's this really awesome game out in Maui.
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But you know that So what if they were to move that to the
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last week of January or the first week of February when
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college football is done and the NFL is largely done except for
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the Super Bowl. I mean, I think Can you imagine
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the week of Iowa State's going to play Kentucky tonight in
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Vegas and, and it's an 8 game tournament and they have NIL.
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It breaks up the season. And then when you talk about 1
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offs, that would be a perfect time to incorporate some of
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these rivalry games that sometimes get shoehorned in
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December. Not necessarily the Seihawk
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because that's kind of been historic, but let's say Kansas,
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Missouri play it like the third week of February or something
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like that. I, I think that there's a lot of
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opportunity if they look at it like a blank canvas and start
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plugging in the dots, I think they would do a lot better than
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just saying, well, we always did it this way and and let's keep
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it this way. Yeah, the weekend between the
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the NFL championship weekend and the Super Bowl when there's
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nothing going on used to be the spot reserved for the Pro Bowl
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that nobody cares about anymore at dock.
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That's a home run. That's a home run that would
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bring eyeballs means that that we're starving for content that
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weekend. What do you think about the
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Hawks chances that get Clemson? Clemson without one of their
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better players of blue is 6 10 Kid blew his knee out in the ACC
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tournament early in the tournament.
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Your thoughts on the Hawks is they get the 8-9 matchup?
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I, I mean, I think this is what you kind of expected was an 8-9
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game. And I think they're, they're
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they've got an opponent that's that's pretty largely pretty
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deep, pretty balanced, but no real superstars.
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Brad Brownell. It's it's an interesting every
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time they play against Brad Brownell with with Clemson, I
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always think back to when Gary Barda and Fred Mims interviewed
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him for the job when Fred McCaffrey got it.
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You know, they because I met them at the airport and they
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were going there and he was at Wright State.
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But you know, overall, I, I mean, this is a team that's,
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it's a pretty good defense, a suspect offense.
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You know, they're not real good from three.
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They don't really they're not real good when it comes to, you
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know, assists. I mean, but that said, you know,
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they they are very balanced and tough and you know, they're in
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the lead 8 two years ago. So this was in in for the last
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what, 3 or 4 years. They've had the second most wins
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in the ACC. So you've got a veteran coach,
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you've got a deep team, they're going to cause some problems.
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But I think for Iowa, this might have been as good of a matchup
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as you're going to get in the first round and it being an 8-9
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game. So I, I think I like Iowa's
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chances, but I'm they're not the type that I would go run to the
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casino and bet on right away. Bennett Sturtz, you need to have
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one of those monster performances out of him and then
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likely Florida in the next round.
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That's going to be a difficult one down there in Tampa.
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If they can find their way past Clemson, want to ask you about
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the women's side of things they'll be hosting.
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We found that out on Saturday. No surprise, they do finish as
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the number five overall seed after even the pull out loss to
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UCLA. Path is difficult.
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It's always difficult women's basketball, but you talk about a
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potential path. Feels like Iowa.
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The women got a pretty good draw overall, and if you're looking
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for one of those #1 seeds, it's crazy to say, but South Carolina
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might be the one you want to see in the lead 8.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of tough matchups here and and I I
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think this this is an Iowa team that is is played really well
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this year, but they're they're a little built a little
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differently than some of the good teams they've had in the
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past. So, you know, you look at how
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they played against Michigan and you're thinking, OK, this team's
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got a chance to do something against UCLA and you're like,
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well, I don't even know if they'll get to the Sweet 16.
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I think, you know, having that home crowd is going to be a
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major factor. Playing Georgia could be a
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challenge because we saw them a couple of years ago.
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They're very physical, very athletic and created all kinds
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of problems for Iowa and Iowa pulled off the win and got moved
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through. But I think with, you know, and
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and plus Katie Abrahamson's from from Iowa, so.
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There's a good that that. Could be a more challenging
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matchup, but I think having them, I, I figured Saturday,
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Monday would be the layout for the Hawkeyes because they, they
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are such a prominent program on television and I'm sure ESPN
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wanted them on Monday night against it if they get an SEC
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team or, or even if it's Arizona State of Virginia, I mean,
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because they're playing here on Thursday night.
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So I, I think that they wanted Iowa in that prime time splat.
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And then then if, if Iowa can get past that second round game,
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which could be a challenge, then you've got to like their Sweet
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16 match up. I think TCU is a really good
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team and Washington obviously is too.
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But I think you feel like Iowa's got a 5050 chance there.
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And then South Carolina is is really good.
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But I would, if I was to say watch out for an 89 type of
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team, USC with Jazzy Davidson, they're the 9:00 and they would
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play South Carolina second if they get past Clemson.
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That's one of those teams where you're like, we really don't
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want to play them. I mean, because they've got some
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potential there. Good stuff doc.
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What are you writing about this week?
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Oh, man, I I'm kind of exhausted.
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All my brain power. I'm doing some doing some
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football writing still Purdue football.
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And I'm also, you know, kind of on, I don't know, I'm on just
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kind of bounce around duty when it comes to basketball right
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now, which is whatever the hot topic is of the day, I'm going
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to be on it. So that's that's kind of where I
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am right now. Good stuff, Doc.
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Thanks for joining us. Appreciate it.
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Have a great week. Scott Dockerman, thank you.
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Thanks for good. To talk to you, Scott Dockerman
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from The Athletic is we take a look at a number of topics with
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Doc. Bill Seals is next.
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He covers Iowa State. That's coming up.
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We'll talk to Bill about the Cyclones that gets set to head
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to Saint Louis. TJ was asked last night if
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they're busting or flying. He didn't know.
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I'm guessing he knows by now with the lack of charters, which
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was a story leading up to it. He wants to fly.
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I don't blame. Him, yes, absolutely.
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Well, and I mean, it's a quick phone call to Denny that he all
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bought. Well, he probably could do that
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too. They're gonna be OK.
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They'll be flying. I will put a Trent kind of
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guarantee behind that. One Yeah, I think that probably
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sealed it right there. Miller in Condon, Iowa Sports
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Radio Network. 125 Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio
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Network Trenton Ken with you until 2 off the bench coming up
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at 2:00. Lucas off today.
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He's sick. Sick today.
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Sick. What a terrible day to be sick.
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Yeah, I don't. You have to gut it out.
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I mean, some. It's a bracket.
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Come on, tough it out. Come on kid, let's go.
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Yeah, you know, they don't make them like they used.
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They really don't. They really don't the play by
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play voice of the Iowa Cubs will be here with with Sean.
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All right, let's get to Bill Seals cyclonereport.com part of
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on three media. He joins us.
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Bill, Trent and Ken, thanks for coming on.
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It's a good thing you get a media pass Bill Seals, because
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my God, those tickets, I can't imagine what it's how how tough
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a ticket it's going to be. But when you see some of the
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schools that are going to join the Cyclones in Saint Louis,
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particularly the ones that travel, obviously Kentucky,
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we've seen them here in Des Moines.
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Purdue's going to bring a ton of people.
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Missouri just down the road, Iowa State of five and a half
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hour drive. There's going to be some fan
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bases that are thinking they're going to be in the Enterprise
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Center, that either A, they're going to have to spend way more
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than they thought or made they maybe they're going to find a
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bar close by and just watch it. They're going to be a tough
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ticket. Bill Seals, good to talk to you.
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How are you? I'm doing well, guys.
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Appreciate you having me on. Yeah, it's going to be a tough
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one. I would say probably right up
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there with that semi final round in Kansas City with Iowa State,
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Arizona and Houston, Kansas. That was an expensive one too.
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But yeah, I mean, it's it's going to be quite the atmosphere
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down in Saint Louis. You know, at least I guess the
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good thing is from Iowa State's perspective that the pod that
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they're in just kind of got to deal with Kentucky.
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But then you've got those that would buy like the all session
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tickets as well to, to deal with that.
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But yeah, it, it, it'll be fun. And you know, The funny thing
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about this whole thing is, is that, you know, it's, it's not a
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given Kentucky's going to even move on to who knows what
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happened against Santa Clara because Kentucky's been wildly
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inconsistent this season. So I, I would think that could
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be, that would be an upset special on a lot of people.
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Less going into later this week. Game one, Tennessee State, first
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time in the tournament in a long time for this squad.
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They're 23 and 9 on the Ohio Valley.
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But boy, kind of dig it in here. Anything you look at and say,
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oh, maybe that could be tricky. This should be 1.
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The point spread tells us 24 1/2.
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It should be an Iowa State cruising victory.
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Anything jump out though to you from Tennessee State?
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Well, not not really. I mean this is a game again,
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Iowa State should be able to to handle this opponent that out of
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the Ohio Valley. You know, they do have what
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Nolan Smith. That's a big name a lot of
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people would remember the head coach of of the Tigers.
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So, you know, that they they do have a couple of guards that
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that Iowa State I'm I'm sure will be first and foremost on
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the, you know, the list of guys to try and take out of that
20:56
game. Travis Harper the second Aaron
21:01
Kerma, I think I'm going to pronounce that wrong, but Aaron
21:04
Kerma, a couple of guards, they average a little over 31 point
21:09
or 31 minutes a game now. Harper yeah, at 17.3, Kerma at
21:16
17.6. So those are the 2 main guys.
21:19
I think that Iowa State will have to contend with a couple of
21:23
guards I think around in that like 6566 range.
21:27
So but but then again, I mean, that's Iowa State strength right
21:31
there there. Those guys are going to have to
21:33
contend with Lipsy, with Torre. You know, Heisey's going to come
21:37
off the bench and be a pest and and want to be I want to be up
21:41
on on one of those guys. So yeah, again, I think it just
21:45
plays in Iowa State strength and that this is a game I don't
21:48
think that they should have too many problems with.
21:51
I got one thing, if it is close, they're a good free throw
21:56
shooting team. Boy, I do.
21:58
That would get Ken going a little bit.
22:01
Yeah, yeah. They, they, they, they do have
22:04
that going for them, Trent. That's a good point.
22:06
They're just a little under 77% from the charity stripe.
22:12
So yeah, you're right in a in a close game, although you know,
22:15
Iowa State shot it pretty well until the Arizona game down in
22:19
Kansas City. They had that two of their best
22:21
games at the stripe, I think in in recent memory, at least for
22:25
me. And then I believe four of eight
22:27
against Arizona. And you look at a game, the way
22:30
it played out, you know, maybe free throws that this one could
22:33
have played out a little differently.
22:35
But yeah, I mean Iowa stated had been trending in the right
22:38
direction there. What does Toure do after his
22:41
offensive explosion on Friday night?
22:43
Was great to see. He'd been a dark hole.
22:46
You mean the ball's not going there was essentially, you know,
22:49
they guard four guys on Iowa State when Iowa State was on the
22:52
in the on offense. Didn't have to worry about
22:54
Toure. But boy, it was really great to
22:56
see. Couple of threes, couple of long
22:58
threes and then goes inside. That little pull up jumper seems
23:01
this confidence as high. He's always playing great
23:03
defense and he played great defense in my opinion on both.
23:06
The Bradley's shots are right at the end of the game there,
23:09
including the game winner. How does Toure take this
23:11
offensive production from Friday night and carry it forward?
23:16
Well, I think he has to. It was a lot of fun to watch
23:19
that play out too. By the way, He's a great, great
23:22
young man. Everyone in the media just
23:25
loves, loves the kid. And you could tell that the the,
23:29
the confidence he hits his first shot and then all of a sudden,
23:33
you know, Killian Tory is out there hunting jump shot.
23:36
It's something that we hadn't seen in forever.
23:38
He hadn't scored in double figures since February 1st.
23:41
But game that Iowa State won against Kansas State, he hadn't
23:45
even been in double figures. So I think it was a lot of fun
23:48
And and, you know, all of a sudden, maybe opponents have to
23:51
account for him a little bit. And that's going to be that's a
23:53
huge deal. Because we saw when when he just
23:57
when he didn't have the confidence, wasn't even looking
24:00
to shoot, he'd get into the lane and he wouldn't even try and
24:03
finish. He'd be just looking to Kick It
24:04
Out. And that that means that other
24:07
teams, maybe they've got to respect him a little more.
24:10
And that is it the expense of of collapsing on Jefferson inside
24:15
or, you know, devoting one guy to to face guarding Milan and
24:19
and trying to take him out. So I think that's a huge, that's
24:23
a positive sign for Iowa State going into a March Madness.
24:26
You mentioned Milan and obviously getting him going in
24:29
the fashion that he did in that game against Arizona.
24:31
There been just those rough stretch.
24:33
Even going back to the tech game, he was one to six from
24:35
behind the arc. We've seen good moments,
24:37
certainly against Arizona State, but it's been inconsistent.
24:40
What can you do game in a game out?
24:42
Just to no, we got to get him involved.
24:45
We have to get him going because in order to make a run here, get
24:48
to the second weekend, get to it Elite 8, you need good Milan
24:51
Manchilovich. What kind of game plan you
24:52
coming up for to maybe just get him comfortable right away in
24:55
the games? Yeah, I agree.
24:57
He said that got it, got to see some shots fall.
25:00
I think early it it has a way of snowballing a little bit.
25:03
If he is is take like like you mentioned the game he was one
25:08
for six. He just didn't get off to a real
25:10
good start and and just didn't really play much of a factor on
25:14
the offensive end in that game. And I think they need to again
25:18
they need to get him going early.
25:20
Now he is a guy that as we saw against Arizona, he he shot Iowa
25:26
State back into that game late in the first half.
25:29
Your things were not looking good the last minute or two of
25:33
that first half and he hits what 9 or 3 three pointers for 9
25:37
points and like, I think it was the final 32 seconds of the half
25:41
gets Iowa State back into that one gives them gives them, you
25:45
know, a little jolt to confidence.
25:47
And then we all saw what happened in that game down the
25:50
stretch. He he keeps Iowa State nearly
25:53
single handedly all you know, Jefferson had a nice game lips.
25:57
He hit the big three. But gosh, it was Milan, I think
25:59
that was keeping the cyclones in that game.
26:02
So he he's someone that they've got to got to get big games
26:06
from. And I I think also after what
26:09
happened the Ole Miss game, I I talked to those guys about that
26:12
on our zoom call yesterday. I think that's still fresh on
26:16
the this is a veteran laden team and it's still fresh on their
26:19
minds that how things played out that getting behind big early
26:24
and and bowing out in the second round.
26:26
And this is a team with big aspirations and and a lot of
26:29
veterans that are are ready to breakthrough this year.
26:34
A couple of minutes on the women, we'll get back to the
26:36
men's tournament to pick your brain a little bit more on the
26:39
Big 12 teams going forward. Iowa State, Boy, they get
26:42
shipped out, don't they? They've got to go all the way
26:45
out to stores. Is that right?
26:46
My God, Get Syracuse in game one.
26:50
And then if they get past Syracuse, here comes UConn.
26:55
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
26:55
Bill Seals. Yeah, and that's not a favorable
27:00
draw, although not surprising to be honest.
27:06
I, I think everybody expected this Iowa State team was going
27:10
to end up on that 8-9 line. I think it almost would have
27:14
been more beneficial to try and get it, try and get a 10, play
27:19
the seven. And I think Iowa State would
27:22
would have had a great chance to win.
27:25
Excuse me, a 10 / a seven game. And you get a little bit better
27:28
drawn that second round. But yeah, I mean, talk about
27:31
being thrown to, I'd say thrown to the wolves.
27:34
They're they're they're going to probably get thrown to the
27:36
Huskies. They're in the the second round,
27:38
but you know, they've got to get past Syracuse first.
27:41
That was one thing that the coach Finley said that you know
27:44
that everybody wanted to talk about the possible second round
27:47
match up against UConn. Well, you know, they've got to
27:50
they've got to figure out Syracuse first and a team that
27:54
they'll have some have some success in the ACC.
27:59
Uche Izoje, the leading scorer for the Orange and she's it's
28:06
going to be a fun matchup, but I think watching her what you
28:10
know, she's almost averaging a double double inside a 63
28:14
freshman center. I mean, her and Audie Crook
28:18
match up. I think to to see those two,
28:21
that is OJ at 15 1/2 and 9.4 points a game.
28:26
So I think on paper this is a pretty tough match up.
28:29
Iowa State's really got to contend with that, even to get
28:32
to U Conn. Eight teams from the Big 12 get
28:35
in on the women's side of things.
28:37
Top seed TCU is a three West Virginia 4, but not the same
28:41
kind of high end. Is it something just cyclical
28:43
right now or something diving in deeper?
28:45
Maybe nil the investment in women's basketball.
28:49
Why do you think we've seen at least a small step back here out
28:51
of the Big 12? Well, supposedly this is, you
28:56
know what Brett, your mark said that he's the he's he loves
29:00
women's basketball. He wants to invest in that.
29:04
But yeah, I mean it there, there's no doubt about it.
29:06
It's it's taken a little bit of a step back since Texas moved on
29:10
to the SEC. You know, Oklahoma coach
29:14
Baronchick that she has that has that had them rolling
29:17
perennially. So I think they, they just
29:19
haven't really replaced those teams that they lost, I think to
29:23
the SEC and they're on a little bit of a dip right now, but
29:26
they're I think there's some exciting teams to watch in the
29:30
Big 12. But I, I think very top heavy
29:32
you mentioned with TCU West Virginia, I think those two were
29:36
the top teams in the in the conference.
29:39
And then yeah, you kind of had what 3 through 7, three through
29:42
8. It seems like anybody in that
29:45
mix could beat each other on a on a nightly basis.
29:49
Back to the men's How many Big 12 teams make the Elite 8?
29:56
Well, that's a, that's a good question.
30:01
I, I think that they're, they're poised to do pretty well in the
30:06
in this tournament. I wouldn't be surprised to see
30:10
at least two make the final four.
30:12
Arizona, Houston, well, and even even Iowa State, the Iowa
30:16
State's kind of been a hot pick. A lot of those pundits
30:20
yesterday, Jay Billis, Jay Williams, I think even Dick
30:24
Vital had Iowa State going to the Final Four and the consensus
30:28
out of those guys is they would lose again to Arizona.
30:31
But gosh, wouldn't that be a a fun match watching the Final
30:35
Four, those two going at it again.
30:37
So I think again, you, you look at Arizona, you look at Iowa
30:40
State, Houston, Texas Tech, that that's another one.
30:45
I think even with Poppin being out, we'll, we'll see what
30:48
Christian Anderson looks like with a little bit of rest coming
30:53
off of that groin injury. But I think there's there's at
30:56
least half of those teams in the Big Dance and the Big 12 I think
31:00
have aspirations to get at least into that second weekend and,
31:04
and who knows, going to the Final four from there.
31:07
Never mentioned Kansas. Don't like The Jayhawks the way
31:10
they're playing. They got pasted on Friday.
31:12
Night yeah I just I I tell you what I didn't that was not a
31:17
very encouraging look I think for them in in Kansas City they
31:22
had the huge huge home advantage and you know Iowa State Arizona
31:27
that ended up being the showcase and I think everybody slept
31:31
through that second game Kansas never really was in it at.
31:35
All Who are Jayhawk fans cheering for in the first game?
31:41
Could you tell? I I heard that there were some
31:45
that had that U of A chant going in the stands rooting for
31:50
Arizona. But you know, I had my my son
31:53
came down with me and he said that some of them he was around
31:57
were rooting for Iowa State just because they kind of wanted that
32:00
throwback, you know, big eight days final, but never ended up
32:05
playing out that way. No, no kidding.
32:07
All right, Well, when does your coverage start?
32:09
Of course, the Iowa State place Friday.
32:10
I'm guessing you'll have their open practice on Thursday, which
32:13
is usually a great deal. I hope the NCAA still does that
32:16
where they open up the arenas to to all fans.
32:19
You want to come and watch the practice sessions?
32:21
You're free to do so. Cost nothing to get in.
32:23
I hope that's still the case. Do you know if it is Bill and
32:26
when will your coverage start for the Iowa State as they make
32:30
their way through the NCAA Tournament?
32:33
Yeah, as far as I know that that practice session day is open to
32:38
the public, so fans down there can get in, check it out.
32:42
Always a good chance to get some autographs, I think for some
32:46
young fans and and some of the players are always pretty
32:48
accessible After that my my coverage, I'm planning on
32:53
getting down there on Wednesday there there's usually a media, a
32:56
quick media availability with TJ maybe get a player or two once
33:02
they arrive at the hotel down there in Saint Louis, that'll be
33:05
on Wednesday. So all plans are to start
33:10
coverage up on on Wednesday. Then we'll have the open
33:14
availability down there on Thursday and and off we go on on
33:18
Friday afternoon. As I would say, flying.
33:21
I know that that was still a question last night, how they're
33:23
going to get to Saint Louis. Did they find a plane?
33:26
You know, I, I was the one who asked TJ that question on the
33:29
zoom call and, and I, I got the, I, I got the idea that this is,
33:34
is 1 they're going to fly down to.
33:35
I, I wondered maybe with the shortage and kind of what he had
33:39
heard a couple 2-3 weeks ago, maybe if that would impact Iowa
33:43
State. But it does sound like they're
33:44
going to get a, a flight down there on, on Wednesday.
33:49
Good stuff. Bill Seal.
33:50
Cyclonereport.com Cyclone report.com part on three media
33:54
slash rivals as he covers Iowa State Bill, thanks for jumping
33:57
on. Appreciate it.
33:58
Enjoy Saint Louis Bill Seals, thank you.
34:01
I will do so guys. Mike, good to talk to you.
34:03
It's right down the Avenue of the Americas.
34:05
That's what they call it, right? The.
34:06
Avenue of the Saints. Avenue of the Saints Ave.
34:08
Americas is in New York I think. Is it never heard of that one,
34:12
Maybe not Saint Paul to Saint Louis?
34:16
Saint Paul to Saint Louis, that's the.
34:18
Avenue of the. Straight through Hannibal, MO,
34:21
You give Kansas a chance to do what?
34:23
Just to get out of the first weekend?
34:25
I don't. Well, to get out of the first
34:27
weekend, sure, their path would be their 4-5 game of potential
34:31
would be St. John's, assuming they knock off
34:34
the Panthers. You're you're jump into
34:36
assumptions over. There.
34:37
Well, I you I learned it from you.
34:41
Kansas, St. John's.
34:42
I give Kansas no check. They got embarrassed on Friday
34:45
night. That's a bad There's something I
34:47
don't know. Self into it.
34:50
He might be retiring, I'm wondering.
34:51
Too, Trent, I've got the same thought as you do.
34:54
He's had all the health problems lately, recently.
34:57
And maybe this Darren Peterson thing was just.
34:59
That's enough. Push it off.
35:01
Yep, made a lot of money. Go enjoy whatever the rest of
35:04
life is and not having to deal with.
35:07
Kids and nil and agents and. Doesn't sound fun.
35:11
Oh, you're well compensated. No, until.
35:13
The the bank hit the the the check is the bank on the 15th
35:16
and the. 1st, that's a lot of zeros.
35:17
It's a lot of zeros. Houston.
35:22
They're good. They're good, Arizona.
35:26
You don't like them? I don't like their coach you.
35:28
Know. And you don't think that they
35:29
make it, you've got them out of the first weekend though, don't
35:32
you? Yeah, yeah, that's an easy path
35:36
for them. But then you don't have them in
35:37
the Elite 8 because that would be the Arkansas.
35:39
Match, that was, yeah, that's the one that I've identified.
35:43
Not locked in stone, no. There'll be a lot of
35:46
maturations. Thursday's a long ways away.
35:51
You like to fill out a pool, no. You don't No, because it's all
35:56
it's it's I don't, I know I don't like to your bracket's
35:58
dead, like within the first hour of the tournament.
36:01
And wait, why go through that? I just want to watch it all,
36:04
watch it unfold. Do you like, by the way, I meant
36:05
to ask you this early in the program.
36:07
Well, now's a pretty good time since we're about to get to your
36:09
plays of the day. Do you have an opinion at all
36:11
Tuesday or Wednesday? No, not yet.
36:14
Too early. Now, one thing that I've done
36:16
historically, every single. Don't you like Miami of Ohio?
36:19
I do, yeah. That was actually one of my
36:21
first bets that I put in. I put in two bets, Miami of Ohio
36:24
plus the seven and a half. I think it was last night
36:26
they're. Getting.
36:27
And. Can they?
36:28
Can they went out right? Sure.
36:29
Yeah, I do. I agree with you.
36:31
And Louisville. I faded Louisville.
36:35
You don't like them? Yes, those were the two that the
36:37
first two bets succeed. They are a six seed.
36:40
Louisville's banked up. That's a problem and just.
36:44
South Florida the matchup. Yeah, South Florida's good.
36:47
Watched them in The American a couple of times.
36:49
I was. I was impressed by them.
36:50
Yeah, they won a lot of games down the stretch.
36:52
Levin seed that I definitely like pulling out that one.
36:56
This is a great time though. That's phenomenal.
36:57
And one thing I do back to the dating games, I just take the 16
37:01
seeds. That's an underdog on the Bunny
37:03
line. And just that's an automatic.
37:04
Yeah, Regardless of who. Yeah.
37:06
I mean try to handicap these awful teams.
37:09
You take the points, you just bet them.
37:10
Just bet money line usually get you know, plus one 15120
37:13
whatever it is. I've done that and historically
37:16
it's turned out to. Be a trend to watch all right,
37:19
145 trends, plays of the day, circus sports sponsor those kind
37:22
of feels like the calm before the storm.
37:24
Oh, it is. My God.
37:26
Now we got games, Tomorrow we do the date and games.
37:29
And when the NIT starts tomorrow, it starts tomorrow.
37:32
It does. And how many Valley teams went?
37:35
I I started three, I think, Right.
37:37
Is that what it was? I think it's three.
37:39
You dug in deeper than I Oh, Trent, I'm all over the NIT.
37:42
Illinois. I can't wait for the crown to be
37:44
unveiled tonight. 4:30 We'll get to get the bracket for the
37:47
crown. Digging into that full report
37:49
tomorrow, that's what we'll start to show your thoughts on
37:51
The Crown. That that's where we're going.
37:53
I was excited because I bought a plane ticket to go follow Iowa
37:56
last year in the Crown and then. Got the Huskers out there, your
37:59
team. My Huskers, right?
38:00
My Huskers? Are my Huskers going to win a
38:04
game? What if they don't win?
38:06
How hilarious. Oh my God, Trent, Can you
38:09
imagine? Losing to Troy.
38:11
And they've never in their history, in their history,
38:15
they've never won a game. They're A4.
38:17
Seed that you talk about adaptitude and it was one thing
38:20
when Nebraska had or Northwestern had that for years
38:22
and years and years, you could definitely understand that.
38:25
Sure, Nebraska, Dan and he had some good teams.
38:29
They had the Polish Rifleman. Yes, they had some good teams.
38:31
Eric Piakowski, he was good player.
38:33
Had Andre Woolrich for a year before he came to a scene too.
38:37
And to never win a game, then to have this season and to lose
38:43
Detroit, a team that recently beat them on the football field,
38:46
on top of it. No, I don't remember.
38:48
That Oh yeah, there's been a lot of those.
38:52
Oh, that would leave a mark. Trench Plays of the Day, Next
38:55
Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
38:57
Trent. I'm Marie Colligan, welcome
39:05
back. Our final couple of minutes of
39:07
our program. Coming up next off the bench,
39:10
Sean Roberts, Lucas Train is off today.
39:15
He will be joined by Jason Kemp, the play by play announcer for
39:19
the Iowa Cubs. They'll take you until 5 O clock
39:22
overtime. Iowa 5 until 6.
39:24
So coming up here this this week, here's what we've got
39:27
tomorrow. We've got both of the games from
39:30
Dayton likewise on Wednesday and then on Thursday it's wall to
39:35
wall, wall to freaking wall courtesy of Westwood One.
39:39
There'll be no local shows with the exception of the morning
39:41
show on Thursday and again on Friday.
39:46
So we're off, afternoon show is off and Westwood won.
39:49
So if you can't be in front of ATV, if you're at work or
39:51
whatever, keep it here as we will have you covered with a
39:55
wrap around coverage of this tournament that are doing it
39:57
like the way they used to do it. They're not lingering at a game
40:01
when the action switches to this site, that's where they take
40:04
you. So I do love that.
40:05
I think it's great. And that's what we've got coming
40:08
up here this week on Des Moines Sports Station One O 6.3 KXNO.
40:13
Jason Horowitz, I know he's always a big part of the studio.
40:16
Is he? Yes, you'll hear.
40:18
Kevin Coogler. He's part of Westwood Ones
40:19
coverage. He does a great job.
40:21
Really like what he does. Yeah, it's outstanding.
40:23
And I know a lot of people. Maybe you're bouncing around,
40:25
going from one spot to another. Maybe you're headed out
40:28
somewhere to watch the games and flip on the radio here on KX and
40:31
O. We'll have you covered with all
40:33
of the action. I don't have much action
40:35
tonight. No, I could understand that
40:37
because there's not a lot of stuff in your wheelhouse.
40:40
There's NBA and there's NHL and that's it.
40:42
I am going to play the World Baseball Classic.
40:46
This is the other semifinal. Correct.
40:49
Italy against Venezuela. I'm going to lay it minus what,
40:53
80? Trying to find a better price
40:56
because that's not normally what I do but the Italian run.
41:01
Comes to an end. Yeah, they had an activist.
41:03
A heck of a World Baseball classic.
41:05
Has this exceeded expectations? Oh, no doubt.
41:07
Did you watch last night? No, I forgot about it.
41:10
You did. You missed because it was.
41:11
I heard it was thrilling. You know, Aaron Judges, you
41:14
heard his comment after the I'm paraphrasing.
41:17
He thinks that the crowd is more into this than they are World
41:21
Series game. I can buy that.
41:23
I can absolutely buy that. I definitely.
41:25
Think at Yankee Stadium. They weren't into it last.
41:29
Night. That's what I was told, That's
41:30
what I heard. I was shocked.
41:33
We mentioned my wife, not a huge baseball fan.
41:36
She wasn't thralled last night. She was into it.
41:38
She was watching a lot more than I anticipated.
41:40
I figure she was a. Dominican Republic at all, at
41:43
any point think that they're going to win this game?
41:45
They had guys on, yeah, they had opportunities.
41:47
And Mason Miller ran into a little bit of trouble.
41:50
I think that also in the 9th inning that guy throws one O 2.
41:54
Like, well, when he really crates up the summer, he'll be
41:56
throwing one O 4. Any word on Suzuki who got hurt
41:59
for? They sent him back.
42:01
I know they did, but. Cubs are looking to get an eye
42:03
on him. I guess.
42:06
Brewers Division Bet. Oh, that was 30.
42:09
Was he at 30 last year? I think he did.
42:11
So just one player. You're just betting baseball
42:13
tonight in. Venezuela, I there was nothing
42:15
in the NBA because I have not well, I don't normally watch the
42:18
NBA at all, but yeah, I think I'm going to play Venezuela on
42:21
the money line and. When will the final be?
42:23
Tomorrow. Perfect.
42:24
Yeah, on Saint Patrick's Day, US, Venezuela, likely, probably
42:31
what we're going to see. Italy got them before.
42:35
Yeah, I watched the Wild and the Leafs last night.
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Yeah, I know. I forgot all about the baseball.
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Never even dawned on me. I I wish I would have, wish I
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would have known. All right, that's going to do it
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for us coming up next off the bench.
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They'll be here until 5:00. Tom Kegger's going to join us
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tomorrow. He's going to be flying on
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Wednesday, so we'll get Tom tomorrow and do some Big 12
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stuff and maybe a little stuff, something on that World Baseball
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Classic. You in.
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Yes, I am absolutely in. Matt Snyder will join us at
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1:30. Awesome.
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Good stuff. All right, that's going to join
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us. Appreciate.
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That's going to do it for us. Rather appreciate you joining us
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as Miller and Condon talk sports with you every Monday through
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Network.