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Orioles offseason to-do list · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcoming in Jason locking for Baltimore Orioles a disappointment to
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Speaker 1: say the least last year after what they had done
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Speaker 1: the previous two years didn't really add much last off season.
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Speaker 1: And what do you think, Jason, welcome in? Thank you
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Speaker 1: for joining us here. And we've seen some of your tweets,
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Speaker 1: so we know that you take a critical eye at
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore keeps you real, Keep it real.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 1: That's that's better, So keep it real with us. What's
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Speaker 1: your biggest off season priorities right now?
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Speaker 3: Well, look, number one on my checklist will be fire Michaelias.
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Speaker 3: But they promoted him and didn't even bother to tell
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Speaker 3: their fans about it. And if not for your buddy
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Speaker 3: Ken Rolls and Fall and the reporters at the Athletic,
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Speaker 3: we still maybe wouldn't have known about it.
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Speaker 2: But as it stands, we're stuck with Elias.
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Speaker 3: So he needs to go out and get a legitimate
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Speaker 3: impact minilal order bat, preferably one who can play center
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Speaker 3: field and do so on a everyday basis, because I
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Speaker 3: don't think Calton Cawser's you never player. They need to
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Speaker 3: rebuild the entire back end of their bullpen. That's not
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Speaker 3: really a revelation. And I put this this lasting third.
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Speaker 3: Some people will put it first, but they need to
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Speaker 3: get another starting pitcher who could be more than an
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Speaker 3: innings eater, someone to compliment Bradish and I guess Rogers
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Speaker 3: the top of the rotation.
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Speaker 4: But they said have to go get an impact back,
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Speaker 4: so like would like a Tyler O'Neill to play. Oh wait, no,
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Speaker 4: that was less so so is that impact bat based
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Speaker 4: on the fact that now they offered hundreds of millions
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Speaker 4: of dollars to Corbyn Burns and it didn't It didn't
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Speaker 4: pan out, So maybe Rubinstein has that money. Or is
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Speaker 4: this a or is this a we got a trade
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Speaker 4: for the center fielder or are they just going to
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Speaker 4: take whoever the Phillies because they take whoever the Phillies
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Speaker 4: had and take one of their centerfielders.
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Speaker 3: Well, I would say to the Burns of it all,
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Speaker 3: they knew he wasn't taking that that offer. He literally
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Speaker 3: left publicly in their face about that offer. So I
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Speaker 3: just think they wanted to be in the vicinity to
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Speaker 3: be able to say we look, I mean, it could
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Speaker 3: be Bellinger. I don't think they're gonna get Bellinger or Swerber.
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Speaker 3: I think they'll have to be creative and make a trade.
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Speaker 3: And Cedric Mallins may have been declining, but Cedric Mallins
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Speaker 3: was a hell of a baseball player here. And Enrique
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Speaker 3: Bradfield Jr. Is barely played at Triple A, so he
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Speaker 3: can't be even counting on whatsoever this coming year.
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Speaker 2: And again, the.
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Speaker 3: More you see at Calser and the more you see
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Speaker 3: that all he can hit is fastballs. And I don't
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Speaker 3: think he can play center field either, and he's got
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Speaker 3: deficiencies throwing to the cutoff man and throwing to the
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Speaker 3: right base. Not a very heady player. So no, they
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Speaker 3: need a center field or they need a field general
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Speaker 3: out there. I would say they need an impact bat
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Speaker 3: in their infield as well. They need more out of
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Speaker 3: first base, like a Pete Alonzo type would be great.
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Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen, but they need to move off
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Speaker 2: from Mountcastle.
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Speaker 3: And like if they're going to try to sell a
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Speaker 3: Platuna Mayo and Bisaio and a little bit of adlee
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Speaker 3: at first base, I would say that sounds like the
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Speaker 3: kind of things they often can cock that blow up
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Speaker 3: in their face.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, always, always, the prospects never the championships. But let's
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Speaker 4: go to an area that, as much as the youth
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Speaker 4: and prospect everything was an area of strength and yet
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Speaker 4: to be determined by some solidified by others. Let's talk
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Speaker 4: about the back end of the bullpen. That was your
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Speaker 4: second point on your to do list, the back end
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Speaker 4: of the bullpen? How long ago? Oh man, the Mountain's
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Speaker 4: coming back. Phelis Batista's coming back, and you know, we
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Speaker 4: can put in your near canoe into the closer's role,
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Speaker 4: which was never gonna work because he's not a strikeout guy.
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Speaker 4: And then we had Sir Anthony that, uh, well he's gone.
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Speaker 4: How did a strength turn into such a not even
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Speaker 4: just not even weakness, but like a gaping hole that
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Speaker 4: they have to fill.
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Speaker 2: Now, well, you.
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Speaker 3: Can take it back to Batista throwing bullpens in a
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Speaker 3: hundred degree heat in the summer, in a season when
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Speaker 3: everybody with a brain knew he was gonna have to
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Speaker 3: get Tommy John anyway, they put that surgery off. He
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Speaker 3: didn't come back from that surgery all the time. I
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Speaker 3: would say there's major question marks with their medical team,
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Speaker 3: because nobody really comes back from their surgeries all the
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Speaker 3: time around here. So and they remember they got Kimberle
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Speaker 3: to try to fill that role originally and gave him
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Speaker 3: furteen million dollars, which is like fifty million dollars for
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Speaker 3: a real team with the way these guys spend, and
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Speaker 3: and so they've been chasing their tail ever since.
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Speaker 2: Then.
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Speaker 3: This year they counted on Batista coming back delayed off
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Speaker 3: of a delayed Tommy John and they didn't have a
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Speaker 3: whole lot of insurance there, and they don't have enough
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Speaker 3: guys in swinging miss stuff in the back end period.
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Speaker 3: Like I think them reuniting with a Danny Colomb who
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Speaker 3: can get left these end right, he's out with a
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Speaker 3: six pitch mix.
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Speaker 2: It's not going to be with you know, Velo that
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Speaker 2: nobody can touch.
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Speaker 3: But he was great here and he was great with
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Speaker 3: the Twins and they shouldn't have let him leave in
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Speaker 3: the first place. And then they need a right handed
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Speaker 3: setup guy, and they need a closer. And look, if
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Speaker 3: they would just commit to Tyler Wells not being a starter,
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Speaker 3: you're never going to get a lot of indings out
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Speaker 3: of Tyler Wells without him breaking down and let him
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Speaker 3: all distion to be the setup guy or the closer.
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Speaker 3: That would be one thing, but they're opposed to it,
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Speaker 3: swore as I could see being right up their ally
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Speaker 3: because his brother Albert's already pitched.
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Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned first base in the gaping hole.
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Speaker 1: Ever you think a gaping hole in terms of the
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Speaker 1: power about it first base? What about Sam Besio? I
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Speaker 1: mean they say long term, they don't plan on sticking
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Speaker 1: him at ketcher because of his offensive upside and they
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Speaker 1: don't want to drain that. Adly did have a down
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Speaker 1: year last year, but he kind of picked back up
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Speaker 1: late in the season. So moving you know he's going
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Speaker 1: to be the catcher. What about moving Besio over permanently.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's twenty years old, like this kid like has.
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Speaker 3: Got enough on his play trying to figure out how
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Speaker 3: to catch at the major league level and again another
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Speaker 3: sort of odd player development quasi failure for them. Just
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Speaker 3: go look at how many innings he has and has
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Speaker 3: not caught in the minor leagues at catcher. Like So,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Like I think to count
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Speaker 3: on him and to count on Mayo would be typical
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Speaker 3: for them. It would be the kind of stuff they
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Speaker 3: like to sell to their fan base. But I also
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Speaker 3: think it could be potentially fraught with peril like Kobe
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Speaker 3: Mayo's got a whole lot of holes in his.
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Speaker 2: Swing still, and it's probably a positionless player.
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Speaker 3: And I just think you know to expect Bosio to
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Speaker 3: provide elite own base and power, and they need both
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Speaker 3: at first base in his first full major league season
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Speaker 3: while playing some catcher. That doesn't strike me as a
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Speaker 3: way to solidify your lineup. It strikes me as more
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Speaker 3: on these kids who need people to take stuff off
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Speaker 3: of them, like someone cut her out.
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, don't have him catch, move him
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Speaker 1: to first base, a permanent first baseman.
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Speaker 3: Kevin is back, Let's let's have him back seventh in
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Speaker 3: the lineup and and call that a day in the
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Speaker 3: developmental year. And let's go get a real lineup, like,
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Speaker 3: let's not try to prop up Tyler O'Neal and pretend
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Speaker 3: that's something like let's not do the poppy Kakka last year.
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Speaker 2: Get Gary Sanchez to pretend.
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Speaker 3: He's a catcher, like, they need to get something real
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Speaker 3: in the middle of this lineup. And again that guy,
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Speaker 3: ideally he's got to play center field, or he's got
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Speaker 3: to play first base. The whole youth and these kids
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Speaker 3: are telling you, We're not it man, Like we need
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Speaker 3: where's our Bregman, you know, like where's our Kyle Tucker?
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Speaker 3: Like it can't all just be from within like they failed.
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Speaker 3: They failed multiple years down the stretch. So I mean,
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Speaker 3: I look, nobody likes Sam Pasillo more than me. I've
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Speaker 3: been on sammy first time I saw video him as
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Speaker 3: a sixteen year old. But like to count on that,
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Speaker 3: I think would be really sort of sophomore. But again
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Speaker 3: they are the quintessentially sophomoric. Chase your own tail front office.
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Speaker 3: So just keep doing what you're doing. It's been great.
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Speaker 4: Okay, here you a ja.
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Speaker 5: We can't get me immuted no matter what Jason.
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Speaker 2: I can't yell as much as Jason did.
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Speaker 5: But here's what I want to know, Jason. Here's my thing.
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Speaker 5: Your third thing on here is, yes, we know they
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Speaker 5: have to do find these hitters, and yes they have
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Speaker 5: to find these bullpen guys, and yes they have to
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Speaker 5: find starting pitching. You have Grayson coming back hopefully. You know,
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Speaker 5: you have a little bit of guys that can pitch
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Speaker 5: for you. You know Rogers pitch grade for him. You know,
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Speaker 5: Kramer will eat some innings for you. They have some
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Speaker 5: guys that can cover it. Yeah, so why won't will
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Speaker 5: are they scared to use these prospects that they've been
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Speaker 5: hoarding now for years, as you said, that haven't developed.
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Speaker 5: Because I'm not one hundred percent sold on all these
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Speaker 5: guys are going to be superstars like every of Baltimore things.
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Speaker 5: Will they use some of these guys to go get
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Speaker 5: a top three starting pitcher, a whoever that person needs
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Speaker 5: to be, Go get Trek Scouble be like you know what, Detroit,
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Speaker 5: we don't know if you want to trade him, but
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Speaker 5: we're going to give you our whole farm system for
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Speaker 5: a guy like Terrek Scouble and then possibly resign him
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Speaker 5: instead of what they do with Corba Murgens. Why won't
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Speaker 5: they do that? Because that seems to be the path
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Speaker 5: that they're not going to spend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I believe. I'm more convinced.
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Speaker 3: They'll spend on a bat than than do what you're doing,
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Speaker 3: pay a prospect cost and make Terrek Scooble the highest
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Speaker 3: paid pitcher in the league. Like, I don't believe Michael
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Speaker 3: Last wants any part of anything remotely like that. I
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Speaker 3: think he's incredibly risk averse. He don't even want to
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Speaker 3: draft pictures in the first round. He refuses to do it.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't really want to take him until the third round.
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Speaker 3: But you're telling me he's going to go out and
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Speaker 3: give up all these kids he's been hoarding and then
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Speaker 3: go pay Schooble. What you know, he and his representation
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Speaker 3: are going to want to commit here for five or
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Speaker 3: six years. Oh yeah, and he's already had one time,
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Speaker 3: he John Like, I don't buy that for a second.
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Speaker 3: I don't buy they ever really wanted corbyn Burns. They
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Speaker 3: want it again to be with enough of earshot at
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Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns to say we tried, he turned us down.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Like I think, Look, I think it's more
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Speaker 3: likely they go with a Martine Perez type and sell
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Speaker 3: him as a three than do any of this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Like they didn't want to give a Valdi. What did
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Speaker 2: it have taken last.
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Speaker 3: Year twenty five a year seventy five for three, you'd
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Speaker 3: have got him out of there for sure, Like they
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Speaker 3: weren't even thinking that way last year.
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Speaker 2: Do I think they've had this like huge course correction.
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 3: And that's part of the reason it's lower on my
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Speaker 3: list is because of the inherent injury risk with pitching
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Speaker 3: and the way so many guys got wiped out. They're
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Speaker 3: taking a victory lab quietly like, oh, just see what
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Speaker 3: happened to Burns, Like would say that Walls and us
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Speaker 3: say they killed our whole payroll. I just don't think
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Speaker 3: that's really how they roll. If they get pitching, it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be called certain pitcher. Somebody else has already negotiated
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Speaker 3: the contract, somebody else has probably already paid a year
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Speaker 4: Let me ask youself. You said you said about michae Elias,
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Speaker 4: how he got that contract extension, and everybody thought maybe
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Speaker 4: you should be fired you you included. But let me
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Speaker 4: ask you this. He has brought talent to the minor
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Speaker 4: league system. He had success in Houston doing that. Would
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Speaker 4: you been against him in a different role with the
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Speaker 4: organization and somebody brought in that has finished the deal before,
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Speaker 4: because clearly he was given some money last year, not
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Speaker 4: a lot. I think seventy million can improve you a
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Speaker 4: lot more than Chicano and Tyler O'Neil. But could that
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Speaker 4: have been the route so that you just have somebody
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Speaker 4: that's willing to take the three point shot instead of
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Speaker 4: always lay up, lay up, lay up.
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Speaker 2: I mean it would have been great. I called for
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Speaker 2: years for checks and balances.
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Speaker 3: You can go back three years ago and find he
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Speaker 3: rant on the radio or going my Twitter, like they
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Speaker 3: needed a Dombrowski type who'd actually won before, who actually
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Speaker 3: had the cajones to know that sometimes like time is urgent,
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Speaker 3: like there is a like this year the al least
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Speaker 3: is really down, and this year there's more pitching available
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Speaker 3: at the deadline, then there's probably going to be in
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Speaker 3: the future, So now's the time to trade some of
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Speaker 3: these prospects and pounce.
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Speaker 2: And instead, you know, they got Flaherty for Drew rom.
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Speaker 3: Like so yeah, no, they needed a someone with big
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Speaker 3: boy pants here a long time ago, but like we're
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Speaker 3: right beyond that now, Like this guy got more money,
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Speaker 3: he got more power when the world fouled out.
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Speaker 2: For reporting not through the organization.
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Speaker 3: Nine months later, he then started whispering to people, well,
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Speaker 3: but we could hire a GM. Now he's already come
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Speaker 3: out and said I'm not getting a GM. So even
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Speaker 3: if he won't even hire a puppet GM who literally
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have any checks and bounces or pushback, and we'll
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Speaker 3: be reporting to him anyway, like they're not getting any
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Speaker 3: better for me as an organization until he's gone. Until
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Speaker 3: the met bloods of the world stop getting extensions, and
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Speaker 3: they get the hell out of my city too. And
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Speaker 3: you get a real front office in here that can
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Speaker 3: go to these billionaires and say, all right, everything you
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Speaker 3: heard from these people is out the window. Here's how
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Speaker 3: we get These people have been waiting for a parade
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Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty three, a parade in the next couple
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Speaker 3: of years. I don't believe Michael Lias is wired that way.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe he'll ever be wired that way. And
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Speaker 3: there is no one in that building to push back
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Speaker 3: on anything he thinks. Everybody genuflects to him and his
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Speaker 3: calculator and tells them how brilliant he is. Just watch
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Speaker 3: the press conference with the new manager and he asked
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Speaker 3: him about personnel. Why would I ever even have a
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Speaker 3: thought about personnel? Like whatever, dude, Like, let's just play
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Speaker 3: it out. Let's fast forward to the season and then
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Speaker 3: there's going to be a lockout and hopefully this guy's
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Speaker 3: out of my life sometime in the next two years.
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Speaker 1: Hi, Jason, it sounds like sounds like you don't have
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Speaker 1: a lot of hope for this or team moving forward.
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Speaker 1: A j You're still muted, so we're not worried about
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Speaker 1: you right now?
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Speaker 5: Okay, I give up. I give up because you know what,
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Speaker 5: producer Lady's supposed to unmute me, and she's not on top.
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Speaker 2: Of her knees today, so we're gonna ask.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to have an argument later.
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Speaker 2: But we don't know special button.
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Speaker 1: They gave me as a guest host like the mute
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Speaker 1: aj But sorry.
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Speaker 5: Sorry, yes now you I was what I want to
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Speaker 5: from Jason, Who do you want? Who do you want
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Speaker 5: them to sign? Who do you want them to go get?
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Speaker 4: Give me in one minute, give me.
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Speaker 5: Two or three names that you would love for the
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Speaker 5: Orioles to go get that would help fix this problem.
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Speaker 2: Go get Kyle Tucker.
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Speaker 5: Oh duh, Go get one soda and show he o Tani.
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Speaker 2: They kind of traded for Wan soda.
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Speaker 3: I was begging than the trade for Wan soda that
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Speaker 3: year they had more they I mean, look, that trade
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Speaker 3: ended up being absolutely genius for the Padres. I mean
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Speaker 3: sorry for the Natsuh, but like these guys, these guys,
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Speaker 3: these guys could have done that. They absolutely I was
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Speaker 3: begging them to do it in real time even one
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Speaker 3: year that year would have put them over the top.
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Speaker 2: But now I.
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Speaker 3: Mean again, they get an aircraft carrier in the middle
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Speaker 3: of their lineup for me first and foremost.
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Speaker 2: So if you think that's Bellinger, then Bellinger.
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Speaker 3: But like if you're asking me right now, it's it's
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Speaker 3: it's Kyle Tucker.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Kyle Tucker is your target, you know. I just
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Speaker 1: want to point out, Jason really quickly that the Toronto
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays finished last last year, and where were they
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Speaker 1: this year this October?
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Speaker 2: Where were a lot of people A lot of people
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Speaker 2: are saying that.
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Speaker 3: I see zero when the Orioles have a five hundred
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Speaker 3: million dollar first baseman and and they go out and
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Speaker 3: sign multiple free agents or at the top of their
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Speaker 3: uh at their lineup, or you know the leadoff guy,
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Speaker 3: you know Springer, who where'd he come from? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 3: they had to spend money to get him from someplace else.
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Speaker 3: When when oh yeah, and then they kept they kept
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Speaker 3: Vladdie and these guys signed Basio and then started wanting
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Speaker 3: about the contract thirty seconds later, Like there's zero comparisons
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Speaker 3: for me between them in Toronto, Like Toronto situationally hit,
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Speaker 3: like Toronto had what six guys get gold gloves.
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Speaker 2: People come to this team in the miners they don't
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Speaker 2: have a position.
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Speaker 3: They've played so many different positions, they're no good at
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Speaker 3: any of them. They don't know how to slide. Watch
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Speaker 3: Jackson Holiday slide head first was feet in the air.
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Speaker 3: Tell me about their player development. No, they ain't Toronto,
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Speaker 3: that's true.
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Speaker 1: Toronto did spend a lot in free agency.
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Speaker 2: Jason.
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Speaker 5: You have to last in the World Series, though, hid
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Speaker 5: you don't forget that.
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Speaker 2: First to count them.
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Speaker 1: They won the Al Bennet. Aj They won the Al
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Speaker 1: Bennett all right, Jason blackimbore, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: joining us. You've got a show to go do on radio.
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time and the spunk that you
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Speaker 1: brought with it.
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Speaker 2: Always. Thank you, guys, thanks for having me. All right,
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Speaker 2: we're back.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, he was just mentioned as Jason's wish list
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Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Orioles. So which team needs to sign
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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker in free agency? Jason thinks it's the Orioles.
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Speaker 1: Who do you guys think we're gonna start with?
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Speaker 4: You, Cratzy, I mean, it's got to be the Cubs
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Speaker 4: in my opinion, it's got to be the Cubs. I know.
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Speaker 4: The article talks about the Phillies and I'm supposed to
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Speaker 4: be the resident Philly expert here, But Homer, they tried.
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Speaker 4: The Phillies tried to get him last year. The Phillies
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Speaker 4: had a deal with the Astros for you know, a
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Speaker 4: Nick Costiano's Alec Boum and a prospect for Kyle Tucker.
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Speaker 4: He would have looked tremendous in that outfield, as anybody
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Speaker 4: will look tremendous when you're adding it to a lineup
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Speaker 4: that's already legit. But to me, how the Cubs don't
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Speaker 4: resign him? And I get it. I've heard all the
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Speaker 4: you know, they're not gonna sign all this stuff. You trade,
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Speaker 4: you trade what they traded Cam Smith, Estak Parades, two
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Speaker 4: guys that could have helped your team also or help
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Speaker 4: your team in the future. Now you don't even resign
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Speaker 4: this guy like you have. If you're the Cubs, you
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Speaker 4: at least have to make it legitimate. You have to
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Speaker 4: be in the four hundred million dollar range. If you
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Speaker 4: fall short, at least you made someone else pay more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Cubs are definitely in on him
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Speaker 1: and Kyle. When I spoke to him in Gosh early September,
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Speaker 1: he said he he he loved his time there. He
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Speaker 1: definitely would like to stay there, but he earned the
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Speaker 1: right to test free agency. I think that slump he
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Speaker 1: had in August may have brought his number down a
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Speaker 1: little bit, but he's still going to get top dollar,
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Speaker 1: right AJ.
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Speaker 5: Listen, the Cubs are out. They've already said they're out.
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Speaker 5: As much as they want to be in there, they're
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Speaker 5: not in. They said already said we're gonna go for
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Speaker 5: middle market relievers and starters. And Kyle to come on,
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Speaker 5: you're the Cubs, Aldy, you're wearing an Expo shirt. Okay,
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Speaker 5: expos you're out on a lot of pilayers. You're the Cubs.
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Speaker 5: Go sign whoever you want. If you want to sign
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Speaker 5: whoever you want, You're the Cubs.
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Speaker 1: You can do it.
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Speaker 5: So Ricketts family, wallets get off of them. Go sign
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Speaker 5: whoever you want.
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Speaker 1: He was a big part of that team. He was
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Speaker 1: a big part of that team. But when the Cubs
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Speaker 1: started struggling, he was right in the middle of that
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Speaker 1: this year prolonged slump.
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Speaker 4: So that shows you he was worth It shows you
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Speaker 4: if he goes, the team goes.
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Speaker 1: GM meetings are underway this week in Vegas, which is
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Speaker 1: more of like a set the scene start chatting whatever
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Speaker 1: than actual news breaking. But according to Francis Romero, hearing
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Speaker 1: from the GM meetings that the reliever market could start
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Speaker 1: moving in the next few hours with big names such
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Speaker 1: as Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams, Robertsworrez, raycell Iglesias, and Ryan Helsley.
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Speaker 1: It was already a trend at the last trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Of course, it is relievers on the move. It's always
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Speaker 1: a trade trend at every trade deadline. Cratsy, who do
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Speaker 1: you think goes first?
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Speaker 4: Everybody needs a closer, So who goes first? You know what?
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Speaker 4: I look at that list. If I'm Ryan Helsley's agent,
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Speaker 4: I'm making sure he goes first. I'm setting where i
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Speaker 4: want my market to be, and I'm not allowing those
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Speaker 4: other monsters. I mean Edwin, Devin Williams, Robert Suarez, like
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Speaker 4: those are three legit like nlal reliever of the Year
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Speaker 4: type of pictures, and they're all out on the market.
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Speaker 4: And Ryan Helsley kind of he faded. He didn't do
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Speaker 4: well when he went to New York. So to me,
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Speaker 4: I hope for him, I hope he goes first so
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Speaker 4: that he isn't being dictated by the rest of the
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Speaker 4: guys in the market, and I think he could get
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Speaker 4: he could get something that maybe won't be out there
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Speaker 4: once other guys are already gone. But I don't remember
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Speaker 4: a reliever market this big. This is a nice market
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Speaker 4: if you need a closer.
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Speaker 1: What are we hearing on qualifying offers? The Cardinals have
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Speaker 1: some movement going on and hein Bloom took over. I'm
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Speaker 1: interested to see what hein Bloom does because he was
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Speaker 1: there in the organization kind of way in the wings
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Speaker 1: under Mosila for a while, and now it's his baby.
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Speaker 1: So we're hearing Brendan Donovan, Nolan ar Nato might be
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Speaker 1: on the move. What do you guys think about that?
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Speaker 2: Kratz?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think heim Bloom is he didn't have
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Speaker 4: to do what they thought was going to be the
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Speaker 4: heavy lifting last year in getting rid of Nolan Aernado,
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Speaker 4: because that's exactly what he had to do when he
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Speaker 4: went to Boston. They said, I need you to offer
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Speaker 4: Mookie Betts one hundred and twenty million dollars and that's
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Speaker 4: all you're going to get to offer him, or you
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Speaker 4: take care of the rest. So it made it look
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Speaker 4: like heinin Bloom didn't want to keep him around, so
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Speaker 4: the front the ownership made him make a tough decision.
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Speaker 4: So good for the Cardinals for not making him be
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Speaker 4: the guy who comes in and just Rex House. There's
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Speaker 4: still some stuff he has to do, so I hope
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Speaker 4: he can get Aeronaudo off the books. I hope he
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Speaker 4: can get something for Brendan Donovan because I don't think
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Speaker 4: it's the Cardinals year this year. But if you look
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Speaker 4: at what he did with the Red Sox, he's already
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Speaker 4: started that in the minor leagues, kind of revamped how
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Speaker 4: they did stuff in the minorn leagues, and hopefully that
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Speaker 4: comes to fruition. You know, it's paid a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Maybe he could even get rid of a Contraras or
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Speaker 4: a Sonny Gray that would add to that depth that
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Speaker 4: they have some young, nice players to bring up and
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Speaker 4: then bring the Cardinals back to the ranips