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The Kenny Report | 31 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight. The Albanezi government shrugs off
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  Speaker 2: concerns about broken promises and spiraling bills when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to power prices. Labor continues to lean forward into recognizing
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  Speaker 2: a state of Palestine, despite the Hummus terror leadership in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza still holding hostages and prolonging war. Cold case crime
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  Speaker 2: investigator and podcast journalist Headley Thomas will join me to
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  Speaker 2: discuss two major murder cases, one finished, another still open.
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  Speaker 2: We'll also check out the list of the top private
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  Speaker 2: schools in the country. Are the girls' schools leaving the
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  Speaker 2: boys behind? Also tonight, Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson on
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  Speaker 2: whether Donald Trump has put sex appeal back into American life.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it. One of the problems in politics
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  Speaker 2: at the moment is that the Labor Party's thumping majority
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  Speaker 2: has convinced them that they've got everything under control. No
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  Speaker 2: one can doubt the alban EASi Labor government's parliamentary majority,
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  Speaker 2: but there are two big qualifications they need to keep
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  Speaker 2: in mind about their victory. First is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they got less than thirty five percent of the primary vote,
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  Speaker 2: just over a third. Labor itself is hardly bathing in
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming popularity, and secondly, the cost of living crisis is
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  Speaker 2: still biting. Families and businesses are still feeling pain, especially
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  Speaker 2: from power prices. The country faces enormous challenges and there's
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  Speaker 2: little sign that labor is grappling with them. The Treasurer
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  Speaker 2: yesterday was sounding typically smug on the back of good
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  Speaker 2: inflation figures.
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  Speaker 3: Today's inflation numbers are outstanding. There's no two ways about it.
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  Speaker 3: They are a powerful demonstration of the progress that Australians
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  Speaker 3: have made to get in the fight against inflation.
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  Speaker 2: Neah pop the Champagne heying is rosy. Apparently, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that is the lived experience of most Australians. And
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  Speaker 2: this has created an opportunity for the Coalition because today
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  Speaker 2: they focused on hip pocket economics and Labour's failure on
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  Speaker 2: power prices.
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  Speaker 4: Can the Prime Minister explain why sixty three thousand more
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  Speaker 4: Australian families are on hardship assistance arrangements for their power
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  Speaker 4: bills today than on the day Labour took office three
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  Speaker 4: years ago. And my question is to the Minister for
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  Speaker 4: Climate Change and Energy Minister, what is the average monthly
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  Speaker 4: household power bill today and what was it when Labor
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  Speaker 4: took office three years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Will the Minister confirm that the government will meet its
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  Speaker 5: renewable energy target of eighty two percent by twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 6: Christine from North Bunderberg is a resident in my electorate
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  Speaker 6: of Heckler. Christine is seventy four years old and judaizing
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  Speaker 6: electricity prices and rents, has been forced to return to
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  Speaker 6: work at a local supermarket just to get by. Will
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  Speaker 6: the Minister explain why Christine's electricity bill has not been
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  Speaker 6: reduced by two hundred and seventy five dollars has promised
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  Speaker 6: ninety seven times now.
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  Speaker 2: The Minister for Climate and Energy, Chris Bowen, dodged direct
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  Speaker 2: answers and instead he went on about wholesale prices and
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  Speaker 2: extra taxpayers money spent on rebates and the like. But
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't escape the fact that his promise to cut
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  Speaker 2: power prices has been broken many times over and that
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  Speaker 2: spiraling prices are hurting people right around the country. He
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  Speaker 2: was left to essentially argue that it doesn't really matter
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  Speaker 2: what Labor promised all what they've done, because voters re
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  Speaker 2: elected them regardless.
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  Speaker 7: We made commitments in the twenty twenty two election. We
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  Speaker 7: sought to implement those. The Australian people cast judgment about
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  Speaker 7: that on May the third. We will continue with the
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  Speaker 7: instruction the Australian people gave us. That is to continue
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  Speaker 7: with the work of delivering the cheapest, most reliable and
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  Speaker 7: cleanest form of energy, which is renewables.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be too certain about that one. Sunshine voters
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  Speaker 2: probably expect affordable electricity and you'd think a competent government
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  Speaker 2: might be focused on delivering it. The move by the UK,
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  Speaker 2: Canada and dozens of other nations to recognize the non
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  Speaker 2: existent nation of Palestine is a case of politicking triumphing
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  Speaker 2: over reality and the virtue signaling trumping hard work and
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  Speaker 2: real policy. At best, it's putting the cart before the horse.
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  Speaker 2: At worst, it's rewarding the bloodthirsty slaughter of innocent people
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  Speaker 2: carried out by the Islamist terrorists of Hummus with a
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  Speaker 2: political gesture that they think Hummus and its supporters want.
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  Speaker 2: The irony is, of course, that Hummus wants nothing of
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  Speaker 2: this two nation approach. It wants only the the annihilation
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  Speaker 2: of Israel and Jews, and then Christians and any other
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  Speaker 2: non Islamist infidels too. Yet all this momentum for recognition
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  Speaker 2: has only come about because of Hummas's violence and terrorism
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  Speaker 2: and warfare. For all the wrongheadedness of this approach, its
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  Speaker 2: practical absurdity and its moral repugnance, the Albanezi government is
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  Speaker 2: pretty much on board.
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  Speaker 3: From a personal point of view. I welcome this momentum,
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  Speaker 3: this progress that's been made in the international community. From
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  Speaker 3: an Australian point of view, recognition of the state of
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  Speaker 3: Palestine is a matter of when not if.
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  Speaker 2: This is pretty shameful stuff, very sad for our country's
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  Speaker 2: national values and our international standing. And with a so
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  Speaker 2: called leadership like this, this little wonder we see rising
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  Speaker 2: levels of anti Israeli hostility. The Palestinian and anti israel
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  Speaker 2: mobs are promising to stage an illegal march across the
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  Speaker 2: Sydney Harbor Bridge on Sunday. Here's the Greens candidate who
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  Speaker 2: ran in Anthony Albanezis seat in May.
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  Speaker 8: I just picked up some leaflets to do some handing
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  Speaker 8: out in the next few days to promote the March
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  Speaker 8: for Humanity across the Hybrid Bridge this Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: A March for Humanity they call it. Really, the pro
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian mob are the same people who celebrated the slaughter
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  Speaker 2: of men, women and children on October the seventh, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, and they cheered on a Sydney street corner
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  Speaker 2: even while mothers and babies and young women were taken
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  Speaker 2: away as hostages, many never to return.
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  Speaker 9: Fall.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't look like a protest for humanity to me,
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  Speaker 2: and nor did the gathering the following night when they
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  Speaker 2: were still retrieving bodies in Israel. But the pro Palestinian
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  Speaker 2: mob in Australia turned up at the Opera House to
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  Speaker 2: stop Jewish Australians from mourning humanity. Was that a protest
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  Speaker 2: for humanity? I don't think angry mobs chanting river to
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  Speaker 2: the sea that is the elimination of Israel is a
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  Speaker 2: march for humanity. I've never seen this mob chart for
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  Speaker 2: the release of hostages. I've never seen them chart against
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  Speaker 2: Hummush against hummus. I've never seen them offer one ounce
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  Speaker 2: of humanitarian concern for the slaughtered Israelis, the tortured hostages,
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  Speaker 2: or the families left waiting. Don't call your protes to
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  Speaker 2: march for humanity. That's an Orwellian distortion. Their march at
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  Speaker 2: least indirectly supports the inhumanity of Hummas, the instigators of
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  Speaker 2: a horrific war, the terror group who deliberately prolongs it
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  Speaker 2: and continues to hold hostages alive and dead, and who
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  Speaker 2: refuses to accept a ceasefire ideal that's been on the
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  Speaker 2: table for weeks. Yet, Albanesi and Labor join other wooly
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  Speaker 2: minded governments like the UK's and Canadas and talk about
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  Speaker 2: a Palestinian state. They say such a state could not
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  Speaker 2: involve humm Us, but at the same time they call
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  Speaker 2: for Israel to stop fighting Hummas. How do these people
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  Speaker 2: propose to get rid of Hummas? Do they reckon some
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  Speaker 2: sort of handshaking ceremony where the Islamist terrorists promise not
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  Speaker 2: to be involved anymore. It's redic and it's not about
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  Speaker 2: Hummas anyway. Really, what you need to keep out of
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  Speaker 2: Gaza and the West Bank is any element of Islamist
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  Speaker 2: extremist terrorism. Hammas, Hezbalah, Islamic j had isis al Qaeda,
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  Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood. It's not an organization that is the
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  Speaker 2: long term problem here. It's the ideology and good luck
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  Speaker 2: coming up with a formula to ban Islamist extremism from
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  Speaker 2: the Palestinian territories, because this is the ideology that's driven
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  Speaker 2: hatred and wars and prevented two state deals in the past.
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  Speaker 2: It's laughable now that Western nations think they can solve
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  Speaker 2: the Palestinian issue by offering statehood, by offering a two
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  Speaker 2: state solution, as if they know what the Palestinians want
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  Speaker 2: and need. It's as though none of these people have
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  Speaker 2: made the slightest effort to examine what's happened before. The
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  Speaker 2: Arabs of the Palace Stein region were first offered their
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  Speaker 2: own state alongside Israel way back in nineteen forty eight
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  Speaker 2: under the original partitioning plan. They responded by attacking the
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  Speaker 2: Jews and trying to eliminate them in what became a
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  Speaker 2: War of independence for Israel. With Israel thriving. Almost twenty
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  Speaker 2: years later, in nineteen sixty seven, the Arab nations, led
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  Speaker 2: by Egypt, Syria and Jordan, again tried to eliminate Israel,
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  Speaker 2: but the Jewish state emerged stronger and larger after that
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  Speaker 2: Six Day War, and in nineteen seventy three, Egypt and
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  Speaker 2: Syria had another crack and Israel triumphed again in the
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  Speaker 2: Yom Kippur War. Yet, after all this, and after the
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  Speaker 2: Oslo Accords and the intercession of US President Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: at Camp David in two thousand, the Palestinian leader Yasser
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  Speaker 2: Arafat rejected a two state solution offered by Israel's Erhud Barak.
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  Speaker 2: In two thousand and five, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
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  Speaker 2: ordered all Israeli soldiers and residents out of Gaza. He
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  Speaker 2: took Israel right out of Gaza and handed it over
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  Speaker 2: to the Palestinians, And instead of turning it into a
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  Speaker 2: region of prosperity and peace, they elected Humas and turned
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  Speaker 2: it into a terrorist trap and a theater of war.
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  Speaker 2: Yet still, in two thousand and eight there was another offer.
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  Speaker 2: This time Israeli Prime Minister Herhod Olmert offered a Palestinian state,
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  Speaker 2: and this time it was Mahmoud Abbas who rejected it.
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  Speaker 2: Time and again, the Palestinian leadership rejects a two state solution,
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  Speaker 2: but virtue signaling politicians in the West keep proposing it
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  Speaker 2: as some sign of some kind of solution, offering it.
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  Speaker 2: Now with Gaza in ruins, Humas in control, and the
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  Speaker 2: West Bank runs separately by Fatah is simply illogical. Without action,
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  Speaker 2: without rooting out Hamas and other Islamist extremists, without working
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  Speaker 2: out the borders, the security and the democratic systems, and
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  Speaker 2: without extracting an emphatic declaration about the right of Israel
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  Speaker 2: to exist in peace and security. Well, without any of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff, it's just blather. It's mere blather. And it's
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  Speaker 2: grotesque that this conversation is being had on the back
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  Speaker 2: of Humas's slaughter of Israelis and its deliberate plunging of
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  Speaker 2: Gaza into war, and its continued use of Gazans as
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  Speaker 2: human shields and sacrifices. To suggest this inhuman violence, this
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  Speaker 2: repugnant and murderous strategy, should be rewarded with the promise
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  Speaker 2: of an imaginary country, well, it's just abhorrent. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, it's also pointless for these politicians to try
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  Speaker 2: to appear like statesmen, a way to pretend they have
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  Speaker 2: a solution, and really a way for them to avoid
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  Speaker 2: making the hard decisions that need to be taken. Frankly,
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  Speaker 2: it's shameful. It means hum Us is encouraged down this path,
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  Speaker 2: encouraged to keep holding hostages. If they don't have the
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  Speaker 2: moral clarity and fortitude to unambiguously condemn hum Us and
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  Speaker 2: demand its defeat, then they should hand over the people
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  Speaker 2: who have backbones. Let's go to Anne Webster, the Shadow
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  Speaker 2: Minister for Regional Development. She joins us live from Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and I want to get you
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  Speaker 2: on domestic politics as it unfolded in Parliament today. But
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  Speaker 2: first on this, are you worried about Labour's open courting
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  Speaker 2: of supporting recognition of the state of Palestine, which really,
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  Speaker 2: in practical terms now looks further away than it has
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  Speaker 2: done for decades.
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  Speaker 10: Look, Chris, I think that the history lesson that you
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  Speaker 10: have just given your viewers is extremely valuable. We need
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  Speaker 10: to remember Hamas is a terrorist organization. They could stop
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  Speaker 10: this right now by releasing the hostages, by laying down
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  Speaker 10: their weapons and walking away. I think for the UK,
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  Speaker 10: for Australia to get involved in this is really for
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  Speaker 10: domestic politics. Let's call it what it is. You called it, bladder,
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  Speaker 10: I would say it's actually about domestic politics. Starma has
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  Speaker 10: his own concerns in the UK with threats of takeover,
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  Speaker 10: and you know, I have no idea what the Albanezy
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  Speaker 10: government thinks it's going to gain by engaging in this.
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  Speaker 10: This is a prolonged and awful situation that could be
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  Speaker 10: easily remedied, and I absolutely agree with you there is.
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  Speaker 10: There should be no reward to Humas for their behavior
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  Speaker 10: since you know two years ago, Millie, and where we
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  Speaker 10: are now with hostages still being held and no relief insight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, let's get back to domestic politics. I
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  Speaker 2: showed how the Coalition in question time today really focused
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  Speaker 2: on power prices. Obviously it's a vulnerability for labor. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: it's hurting people and businesses around the country. But Bowen
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  Speaker 2: seems so smug about it. He's doubling down on his
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  Speaker 2: renewables transition planning. He doesn't even seem to recognize the
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  Speaker 2: difficulty these sky skyrocketing prices are causing for.
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  Speaker 10: People one percent. I think you know you called him
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  Speaker 10: sunshine before. Maybe he's the only sunshine in the renewable space.
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  Speaker 10: It's certainly not sunshine for Australians and in my electorate
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  Speaker 10: of course, as you know, where we have the rush
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  Speaker 10: to renewables and we've been delegated as areres a renewable
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  Speaker 10: energy zone. It's nothing but pain. I think the protest
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  Speaker 10: that took place yesterday is has what I'm told by
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  Speaker 10: the farmers who were there, who were engaged.
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  Speaker 2: Just let me jump in there, just get you to
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  Speaker 2: what we show those pictures explain that protest in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 2: What was behind it and what's come from it.
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  Speaker 10: Well, the protest was about legislation that the Victorian government
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  Speaker 10: are putting in in factors going through the House right now.
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  Speaker 10: Debate is taking place in the Legislative Assembly in Victoria
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  Speaker 10: and it is about the draconian laws that Labor are
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  Speaker 10: wanting to bring in where they can find farmers who
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  Speaker 10: have their gates shut from allowing Transmission Company Victoria to enter,
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  Speaker 10: and they can enter using bolt cutters. They can basically
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  Speaker 10: break in and enter and the Victorian Labor government wants
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  Speaker 10: to make that law that it is okay. Well, you
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  Speaker 10: know what, it's not okay with the farmers who were
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  Speaker 10: at that protest yesterday. And I've spoken with Andrew Whedeman
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  Speaker 10: today about how it went, because obviously I'm in Canberra,
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  Speaker 10: and he said that it is really interesting to see
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  Speaker 10: Melbourne people, residents coming out and supporting them. That is fantastic.
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  Speaker 10: And as I said, to him more than twelve months ago.
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  Speaker 10: We need to get city people to understand what the
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  Speaker 10: Victorian government and their federal government too are imposing on
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  Speaker 10: regional communities. So I'm just really pleased to see that
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  Speaker 10: Melbourne is starting to step up and support their country
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  Speaker 10: cousins and stand up against this awful Victorian government.
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  Speaker 2: Those are Melbournian comedians from Working Dog. Need to remake
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  Speaker 2: the movie The Castle and make it a farmer trying
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  Speaker 2: to stop transmission lines going through their property. It's Redland
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  Speaker 2: of that sort of those sorts of ossie values, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us and I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: And Webster there, who's the member for the federal member,
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  Speaker 2: the National's member for Mali in Western Victoria. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: back onto foreign policy issues now. I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: first about Canada now joining the push to recognize a
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  Speaker 2: sovereign state of Palestine. He is their Prime Minister, Mark Carney.
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  Speaker 11: Canada intends to recognize the state of Palestine at the
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  Speaker 11: eightiest session of the United Nations General Assembly. Canada will
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  Speaker 11: increase its efforts in supporting strong democratic governance in Palestine
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  Speaker 11: and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful
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  Speaker 11: and hopeful future.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's go to Munich in Germany and catch up
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  Speaker 2: with former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer. Thanks for joining us again, Alexander.
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  Speaker 2: Canada full throttle on recognition UK through Keir Starmer almost
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  Speaker 2: there and Anthony Albert EASi and his Treasurer saying, basically,
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  Speaker 2: as a matter of when, not if, tell us what
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  Speaker 2: all this is going to achieve?
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  Speaker 8: It was absolutely nothing at least more Coney to the
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  Speaker 8: Canadian Prime Minister, to his credit, lays down one condition,
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  Speaker 8: which is that the Palestinian territory should be governed and
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  Speaker 8: not governed by Hamas. Whereas at the moment Gaza is
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  Speaker 8: governed by Hamas as we all know, and the West
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  Speaker 8: Bank is so called governed by the Palestinian authority by Faddah,
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  Speaker 8: and so these two hate each other. So there's no
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  Speaker 8: immediate prospect of any sensible governance taking over that territory.
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  Speaker 8: But as you said in your introduction a few minutes ago,
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  Speaker 8: attempts have been made for years, for decades to create
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  Speaker 8: a two state solution, to create a Palestinian state, and
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  Speaker 8: the people who have rejected it are not these Alees,
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  Speaker 8: but the Palestinians. Let's just remember that the Palestinians have
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  Speaker 8: always rejected the proposals for a two state solution on
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  Speaker 8: the grounds that they're not satisfied with the boundaries that
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  Speaker 8: they don't want to live. I mean, ultimately, they don't
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  Speaker 8: want to live side by side with Israel. And so
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  Speaker 8: this sort of rush to recognition is the worst kind
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  Speaker 8: of weak virtue signaling by efeckless Western politicians rather than
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  Speaker 8: people who are genuinely trying to solve this problem, which
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  Speaker 8: can only be solved through a total restructuring of the
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  Speaker 8: democratic processes in the Palestinian territories.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just get you to pick apart one point
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  Speaker 2: you made there, because I think it's very important. We're
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  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of politicians Anthony Albanezi included saying a
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  Speaker 2: precondition for this state would be that Humma would not
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  Speaker 2: be involved. Now there's a problem there, because you've got
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of Hamas first out of Gaza before
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  Speaker 2: you can say they're not going to be involved. But
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  Speaker 2: it's a glib line really in many ways, because you
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  Speaker 2: can say Hamas is not going to be involved, but
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  Speaker 2: this is an Islamist extremist group with links back to
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  Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood. These are shape shifting organizations. What you
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  Speaker 2: really need is to keep out that sort of Islamist
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  Speaker 2: extremist ideology from any governance in the Palestinian territories. And
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  Speaker 2: that's almost impossible to guarantee.
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  Speaker 8: Very very difficult to do. I noticed the other day
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  Speaker 8: the Arab leaders also coming out unanimously and agreeing that
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  Speaker 8: Hamas needs to be expelled from Gaza, from the governance
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  Speaker 8: of Gaza. So every effort should be made to do that,
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  Speaker 8: and that should be the focus of international diplomacy and
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  Speaker 8: international comment. I mean, I agree that a cease fire
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  Speaker 8: would be good, but why won't Hamas agree to a
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  Speaker 8: cease fi Why won't they release the hostages? Why won't
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  Speaker 8: they allow a restructuring of the governance in Gasa? And
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  Speaker 8: until Hammas start to ask a pressure applied to them,
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  Speaker 8: not just by the Israeli military, but by the international
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  Speaker 8: community as as compared to the other way round, the
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  Speaker 8: international community always putting pressure on Israel, you'll never solve
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  Speaker 8: this problem.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, isn't it? The real horror the here that the
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  Speaker 2: counterproductive aspect is that the more pressure people put on
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  Speaker 2: Israel and talk about a Palestinian state the more likely
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  Speaker 2: it is that Hamas is going to stick to its
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  Speaker 2: its existing strategy and hang onto those hostages.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly, and the more so what the international community is
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  Speaker 8: starting to do now, Well, what Western powers like France, Canada,
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  Speaker 8: the UK and so on are doing now is empowering
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: Hammas by taking the Hammas line that Israel is not
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: providing sufficient food, Israel is too violent, and so on,
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: taking the Hammas line and encouraging Hammers to double down
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: on their strategy instead of doing the exact reverse. The
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: pressure shouldn't be on the Israelis. The pressure should be
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: on Hammas. Release the hostages, stop the fighting, allow food
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: to be properly distributed, which they're not allowing, and moved
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: towards a more democratic system of governance in Gaza and
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: including the West Bank. That's where the international community should
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: be going and that's where the pressure should be applied,
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: and the Arabs working with the Western countries to do that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: But no, they're doing the exact reverse. They're attacking Israel,
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: criticizing Israel, using Hammas propaganda to attack Israel and thereby
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: just empowering Hamas all the more and encouraging Hamas all
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: the more honestly, it is complete madness, which is driven
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: by domestic political game playing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Such a tragedy, I want to change topics though briefly.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Why don't you take a break for a minute there
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in Munich while I show everybody the new promotion of
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  Speaker 2: a special television event We're going to have you on
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• 24:52
  Speaker 1: The global order is under pressure and Australia is on
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  Speaker 1: the front line of a new strategic hero.
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: We're need a defense force.
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: The most complex strategic circumstances has demanded the biggest reassessment
• 25:08
  Speaker 13: of our strategic posture in thirty five years.
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  Speaker 1: The world is shifting faster and more dangerously than we've
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  Speaker 1: seen in decades.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: These strikes were a spectacular military success shape.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: From Beijing to Tehran, Moscow to Washington. Power is being
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  Speaker 14: on Sky News Australia.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. It's going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: be hosted by Chris Juman. Alexander Downer, Australia's longest serving
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: foreign minister, is going to be part of that panel. Now,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it's going to be fascinating. You, of course, have sat
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: around the National Cabinet and National Security Committee of Cabinet
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: for more than a decade, through wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: crises in our region, dealing with issues such as defense
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: procurement in the face of Chinese military build ups and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: all the rest of it. So you bring enormous experience
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to this program, Tommy in a nutshell though, Now if
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you were sitting around there as foreign minister now in
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the Australian Cabinet room, how worried would you be about
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: our strategic circumstances.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Well, I think we need to understand what's happening in
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: the world. China, in particular, Iran, North Korea and Russia.
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: Those countries are all working together in different ways to
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: undermine liberal democracy and the global capitalist system. We have
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: to work with our allies, with like minded countries, above
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: all with the Americans to counterbalance that coalition of adversaries.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: And at the moment Australia is not very good at
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: that Australia is becoming surprisingly isolationists, which is not the
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: Australian tradition, whereas the Americans who are President Trump accused
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: of being an isolationist is far from it and has
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: been very forward leaning in his approach, in particular to Iran,
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: but also to China and Russia. Not very successful with
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Russia so far, but it reminds us that we've all
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: got to consolidate and work together, and that includes increasing
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: our defense effort.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, our defense.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: Force is hollowed out, so we need to start finding
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: ways of increasing the strength of our defense force.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Alexander, thanks for joining us, or catch up
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: with you next week Alexander down to their former foreign minister.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned, he'll be part of that War Cabinet
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: program to be hosted by Chris Yourman, not next week,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the week after, as you would have seen in that promo.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break. On the other
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: side of that, I'm going to catch up with cold
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: case crime investigator and podcast journalist Headley Thomas about two
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: major murder cases, one that's done and dusted now the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: other one's still open. The debate over single sex versus
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: co ed schools is back on the agenda following the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: release of a list of Australia's top one hundred private schools.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Single sex schools dominate the top ten, including six all
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: girls schools. For more, let's bring in Susi O'Brien, who
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: crunched the data. She's the News Corp National Education editor,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: obviously a regular with us on Tuesday. Is good to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: talk to you, Susie. This is a fascinating survey you've
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: done here to come up with the top one hundred
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: private schools. Is it based just on academic results? I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: know it's not explained to us what the judgment is,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: what the criteria is for judging these schools.
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  Speaker 15: Thanks so much for having me, Chris. Well, yeah, we
• 29:04
  Speaker 15: looked at something like a dozen different matrix I mean,
• 29:07
  Speaker 15: these kind of schools always talk about how it's not
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: just about the academics, it's not just about the marks.
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: So we're putting that to the test, and so we're
• 29:15
  Speaker 15: looking at a whole range of things like student staff ratios,
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: their facilities, the number of ovals, what subjects that subject
• 29:25
  Speaker 15: offerings they have, what kind of campus facilities and so on,
• 29:28
  Speaker 15: And so that's how we came up with this really
• 29:31
  Speaker 15: deep dive into what's behind the swanky Sandstone gates.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, let's have a look at the top ten then,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and we've got the data here. The results here is
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Sydney Grammar coming in at number one, Haileeberry Collage and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Victoria as second. Sydney and Melbourne tend to dominate this list,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I suppose. But you've got Brisbane with the two schools
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in the top ten to a girls' school and Brisbane
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the grammar there as well. One of the things that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: interests me here is, for instance, Sydney Grammar, I know,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: is a selective school, right they only let kids in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: there if they pass a certain academic standard. Some of
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the schools will be like that, most of them won't.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Does that affect the results? Do you think does that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: skew the results?
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: Well, anytime you've got a selective school, whether it's a
• 30:23
  Speaker 15: state school or a private school, you're always going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: see a much more hand selected, high performing group. That's
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: why when we look at Naplan, it's always the selective
• 30:33
  Speaker 15: state schools that are at the top and often performing
• 30:36
  Speaker 15: at the same level as the top private schools. But
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: a surprising number of these big private schools aren't selective,
• 30:44
  Speaker 15: and they're very proud of that. They're proudly accept anyone
• 30:48
  Speaker 15: who offers. Anyone, mind you, who's got fifty thousand dollars
• 30:51
  Speaker 15: to pay the fees. So not just anyone can get in.
• 30:55
  Speaker 15: But yeah, it's certainly not a very selective academic group.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the costs of the major schools are frightening. I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: a big supporter of private education. I think it's a
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: great thing for the country. And the lower fee schools
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: at the bottom end have been big in recent decades.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing, more affordable private schools. But tell
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: us about the single sex issue. There's a lot of
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: debate about that, especially with some of the boys schools
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: going to co ed in coming in the years ahead,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: some of the private boys schools. The data seems to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: suggest that for academic results at least, you're better off
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: having single sex.
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean the top ten has, sorry, the top
• 31:41
  Speaker 15: twenty has only two co ed schools in it, one
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: of which is Hallibury in Victoria, which is obviously my
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: home state. But overwhelmingly the very top schools that we
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: identified are single sex schools. And let me tell you,
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: there's many more girls schools than there is boys schools
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: on the list, so when it comes to gender, it's
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: not just co ed and single sex, it's also boys
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: versus girls.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is well, good good research, Susie. You will
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: keep keep it, keep an eye on that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: I've got a lot of.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Mates and friends who will be arguing about the ratings there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: And worried about where they're and where their.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Kids are going or how their schooling turned out. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: appreciate it, cessy O'Brien there from the news court, tabloid tabloids.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And if you want some more information on that, you
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: can drop into Top one hundred Schools dot com dot
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: au and you go through all the detail there. We've
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: got to take a break. On the other side of that,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I want to catch up with Headley Thomas, as I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: flagged before. He's the investigative journalist and podcaster. I want
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to talk to him about one murder case in particular
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that remains unsolved, another one that's done and dusted. Let's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: catch up now with the best investigative reporter in the country.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Headley Thomas's podcast, The Teacher's Pet, led to Chris Dawson
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: being charged, convicted, and sent us to twenty four years
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: jar for murdering his wife. Lynette. Headley's latest podcast, Bromwin,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: is now in its third season. It's investigating the nineteen
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: ninety three disappearance of Bromwyn Winfield from Lennox Head in
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the Northern Rivers region of New South Wales.
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: Have a look, a missing mother, a broken family and
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: a cold case that can be solved. Join me Headley
• 33:22
  Speaker 16: Thomas as the search for Bromwin's killer continues. New episodes
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: are out now. Visit Bromwyn podcast dot com.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Headley Thomas joins me now live from Sydney. Good to
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: talk to you again mate, this podcast. What thirty four
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: episodes already? You're still toiling away on it. Do you
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: have the sense that there could be police action or
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: charges or justice? Meet it out mystery resolved here anytime soon?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Chris.
• 33:54
  Speaker 17: The police don't flag what they're about to do, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 17: I know that Bromwin's family are quietly hopeful that there
• 34:01
  Speaker 17: will be a breakthrough soon. When we started this investigation
• 34:05
  Speaker 17: back in February last year, there was no contemplation that
• 34:09
  Speaker 17: we would go as far as we have, and perhaps
• 34:14
  Speaker 17: eight to ten episodes were being planned. But what has happened.
• 34:19
  Speaker 17: Is it's a bit like in Linn's case. So many
• 34:22
  Speaker 17: people coming forward with new evidence, new witnesses who hadn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 17: been heard from before, who police had never talked to,
• 34:31
  Speaker 17: coming forward, and that takes time to really unpack their stories.
• 34:35
  Speaker 17: And I think that the evidence in this case is
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: overwhelming in pointing in one direction, and the witnesses who
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: have even described seeing what they believe was Broman's body
• 34:48
  Speaker 17: being taken away on the night that she disappeared, very credible.
• 34:52
  Speaker 17: People like that, So hopefully there will be a breakthrough soon.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: There are similarities here, of course, between the this mystery
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and the Lynn Dawson case, in that there's a mother
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: who disappears, leaving children behind. So it just seems so
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: out of character. And it seemed that in those days,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: even though this was only nineteen ninety three, there was
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: too little curiosity about it. And I suppose that is
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the great benefit of the work You do. You probe
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the information you can uncover, but the publicity then flushes
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: out all sorts of extra evidence and extra information.
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: Chris, the similarities are remarkable, and even down to the
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: same deputy state coroner, so Karl Milavanovitch who at the time.
• 35:44
  Speaker 17: In two thousand and three, he ran an inquest into
• 35:49
  Speaker 17: Lynn's case and he recommended that a known person and
• 35:53
  Speaker 17: that person was Chris Dawson. He recommended back in two
• 35:56
  Speaker 17: thousand and three, after many days of public hearings, that
• 35:59
  Speaker 17: he be prosecuted by the new South Wales Office of
• 36:02
  Speaker 17: the DPP. Unfortunately, that office repeatedly declined to prosecute Chris,
• 36:08
  Speaker 17: but the same Deputy State Coroner, Karl Milavanovitch, he also
• 36:13
  Speaker 17: ran the inquest into Bromin's case. He made the same
• 36:16
  Speaker 17: finding in two thousand and two, so a year before
• 36:18
  Speaker 17: he did Lynn's case. And the only reason I knew
• 36:21
  Speaker 17: about Romman's case was because when I was interviewing Carl,
• 36:25
  Speaker 17: he was then retired as a magistrate. It was late
• 36:28
  Speaker 17: twenty seventeen. It was one of my first interviews for
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: the Teacher's Pet series that didn't come out until the
• 36:33
  Speaker 17: following year, and Carl mentioned Bromwin Winfield's case and he
• 36:38
  Speaker 17: talked about it as another one that he was very
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: troubled by where there hadn't been a prosecution. He believed
• 36:44
  Speaker 17: that there was powerful evidence. Since his inquest, there's so
• 36:48
  Speaker 17: much more evidence and I think it will soon be
• 36:52
  Speaker 17: a matter for the new director of the New South
• 36:57
  Speaker 17: Wales Office of the DPP to make a call.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Well, let's hope so, because justice needs to be served
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: and also families and relatives and friends need closure and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: some sense of justice as well. I want to go
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: back to the Teacher's pet case, the Lynn Dawson case,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: because we've shared with you previously some of the big
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: moments in that case where Chris Dawson was charged, where
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: he was convicted and the like. But there was another
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: bit of news, an ultimate closure, that happened just in June.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Here's how it was reported on Channel nine.
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: Wife Keller Chris Dawson has lost his final chance to
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: clear his name, the High Court throwing out his bid
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: to appeal his conviction for murdering wife Lynette, closing the
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: final chapter on the notorious case. Dawson last week also
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: failed to overturn a carnal knowledge conviction.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: There you go, game over. I remember texting you the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: day that news came out, Headley, because you've been through
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: so much with the family, but.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: This was it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: This was like the idle nail in the coffin. All
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: avenues of appeal are dead. That case is solved and
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: justice has been served you and especially through your contact
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: with your family, you must know what that closure has meant.
• 38:17
  Speaker 17: Chris. It was a huge relief. I caught up with
• 38:21
  Speaker 17: Lynn's brother, Greg Simms and his wife Marylyn, and they
• 38:25
  Speaker 17: have been such great, staunch supporters of the work that
• 38:30
  Speaker 17: we've been doing in Lynn's case, and I first met
• 38:33
  Speaker 17: them in twenty seventeen. And when they had that news
• 38:37
  Speaker 17: and I broke it to them because I rang them
• 38:40
  Speaker 17: as soon as I got the High Court alert, they
• 38:43
  Speaker 17: were close to tears. We actually caught up in Brisbone
• 38:45
  Speaker 17: a few days later, hosted a lunch at my house
• 38:49
  Speaker 17: and my wife is very fond of Greg and Maryland,
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: and the four of us just had a really nice
• 38:56
  Speaker 17: private debrief on everything and brilliant. They left our place
• 39:02
  Speaker 17: feeling very happy and so relieved that this was all
• 39:06
  Speaker 17: behind them.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Congratulations Headley, brilliant work and let's hope you have similar
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: success now with the founding and friends of Bromwin Winfield.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Headley Thomas there whose podcast that Bromwin
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: is into its third series. Go to the Australian website
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: and google all that you can get the latest episodes
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: there and let's hope what Headley suggests there does come
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to fruition that there could be some police action, some
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: authorities taking actions over this unsolved murder case in the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: days and weeks to come. We're going to take a
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: break now. Coming up, we'll catch up with Tim Blair
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and Mark Nicholson. I do love wrapping up the week
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: with them, will make sense of what's been a crazy
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about Kamala Harris putting her
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: political comeback on hold. Yeah, let's wrap up the week
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: with our little national cabinet. Here on Thursday evening, I'm
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: joined by Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph and he
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: joins us from the Wimmera and Mark Nicholson from step
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Mate Studios joins us live from the wild streets of Melbourne. Mark,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you the first topic I want
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to raise with you. There's been so many concerns about
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: knife crimes in Melbourne and machettes being used, but I
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: can't believe the solution that they've come up with. They're
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: going to have these boxes outside police stations and people
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: are not handing in their guns, theyre supposed they hand
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: in their knives.
• 40:27
  Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, this is another bright idea from the Victorian government.
• 40:31
  Speaker 18: What a very clever tactic this is. Like, I don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 18: know how many people are sitting at home with machetes
• 40:36
  Speaker 18: and thinking I better put that in the box or
• 40:39
  Speaker 18: otherwise I might be you know, I might be found
• 40:41
  Speaker 18: to be breaking the law. Like these people are already criminals.
• 40:44
  Speaker 18: And it's just funny that there's no incentive for people
• 40:46
  Speaker 18: to be doing this. And they could have done a buyback,
• 40:48
  Speaker 18: but obviously the Victorian government can't afford that. But fifteen
• 40:52
  Speaker 18: thousand machetes they found on the street last year, fifteen
• 40:56
  Speaker 18: thousands of these things are on the street. Imagine how
• 40:58
  Speaker 18: many are actually like still out and that's just the
• 41:00
  Speaker 18: ones that they found. I'm starting to think, like I
• 41:02
  Speaker 18: wouldn't be giving my machee in. I'm thinking about getting
• 41:04
  Speaker 18: one here in Victoria. I think it might be the
• 41:06
  Speaker 18: only way to protect me.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just unfathomable. A machete amnesty. There's fifteen thousand.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: It's extraordinary. And Tim, you're good mate. Mark Knight, who
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: does the cartoons for the Herald Son, what about this
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: little image of driving in the middle when you come
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: in from the freeway from the airport. Hell machete, it
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: seems to be quite fitting, tim mate.
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: I've met a machete Australian in Melbourne and it was
• 41:33
  Speaker 13: late at night in the Carlton inner city of Melbourne
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: and a chap who was in some sort of argumentative
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: stance with some of his some of his former friends.
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: I gather he was waving a machine around like le
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: but he's business so I assume now that he's possibly
• 41:50
  Speaker 13: been released from prison, he was taken away while we're
• 41:53
  Speaker 13: out there looking at him. He assumed that he'd be
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: handing in his machete as well. But he's what a
• 41:57
  Speaker 13: really clever police force would do. A really clever but
• 41:59
  Speaker 13: clever government just arrest everyone who's showing up with the machetes. Yes,
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: have a bunch of conferends the land and off you go.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, amnesty is over. You're you're under arrest. Now. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: want to go to something happening in Queensland yesterday. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: love a rocket launch, so they don't always go to plan.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Here's an Australian rocket venture now that is sad to see.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Gilmore Space Adventures is the company behind this. And I'm
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: not going to mock them, Mark, I think this is
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: fantastic that Australia is actually getting back into this business.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember we used to do stuff
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: up at the woman A rocket range and we've got
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: to be a high tech nation and they're going to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: go again. They're going to rebuild, learn from their mistakes
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and fire it off again. We hope that's it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 18: May we're bloody patriots. That's why we're not going to
• 43:07
  Speaker 18: mock this stuff, mate, because this is what we want
• 43:09
  Speaker 18: it because we want we want Australian manufacture and stuff. Sure, hey,
• 43:13
  Speaker 18: this is this might be a little bit embarrassing, but
• 43:14
  Speaker 18: it's not raygun embarrassing. Like, this is not that big
• 43:17
  Speaker 18: a fail.
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: This is all just standard.
• 43:20
  Speaker 18: Hey, and it lasted fourteen seconds. There's no shame in
• 43:23
  Speaker 18: lasting just fourteen seconds. By the way, that's a good
• 43:26
  Speaker 18: amount of time. I'm happy with that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: Go Australia.
• 43:28
  Speaker 18: This is only the first step on a long way.
• 43:30
  Speaker 18: We should be having spaceship's nuclear bombs. We're going to
• 43:33
  Speaker 18: be a superpower in the next decade. We're on the
• 43:35
  Speaker 18: right track.
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: This is good.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to have renewable energy powered bombs. Apparently
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to have solar powered bombs. Speaking of reygun Tim,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I'm a staggered by this latest advisory. I suppose or
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: new rules that are coming into place for female track
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and filled athletes. Apparently they're going to have to subject
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: themselves to DNA ten to prove that they are women.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: This is how confused we've become, so many people wanting
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: to prove that they're women, that they're going to have
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to actually give a blood sample or something to prove
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: their women.
• 44:12
  Speaker 13: It's it's interesting that it's a once in a lifetime
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: test because wasn't it always just going back to our
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: rocket launch. Far from mocking it, how impressive is it
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: for a rocket to move sideways? That's really really hard
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: to do, So I'm all for more more sideways rocket launches.
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: It's a it's an innovation. It's free Queensland. But just
• 44:37
  Speaker 13: on our sorting out this gender issue. For some you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 13: long period of time, I since humanity began, we didn't
• 44:47
  Speaker 13: require this testing, so it's become a problem. We're just
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: really we're not really improving as a species, are we?
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: That these these things are becoming more difficult, simple.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: More difficult. I'm happy I'm happy to sit there and
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: judge to pass whether or not any members of the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Jamaican women's sprint team are in fact female or not.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It's just getting ridiculous now speaking of events related to this,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: when it comes to sexism and the modern euroses, I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: mentioned last night this controversy over the actress Sydney Sweeney
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and this Genes company American Eagle that she's promoting, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the slogan saying Sydney Sweeney has great genes. There's one
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: of the posters, and it's created all sorts of backlash
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: from the hard left feminists. Have a look at this one.
• 45:37
  Speaker 17: Hey, American Eagle, Now do black and brown women? Because
• 45:41
  Speaker 17: black and brown women also have great genes that they
• 45:43
  Speaker 17: inherit from their parents.
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: Did you know that they.
• 45:46
  Speaker 18: Also have butts that look really good in jeans as well?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Oh that's it, Mark, You cannot now say that a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: white woman is attractive because that apparently is racist to
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: all women who are not white.
• 46:01
  Speaker 18: It's it's honestly, dude. You thought wocal was dead. It's back.
• 46:04
  Speaker 18: It's huge, it's still around. It's it's gone. It's crazier
• 46:07
  Speaker 18: and wackier than every It's unbelievable, like the fact that
• 46:11
  Speaker 18: they've taken this it's just a it's just a silly
• 46:13
  Speaker 18: little pun with Sydney Sweetey and like good jeans, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 18: it's and they've turned it into this white supremacist like
• 46:20
  Speaker 18: eugenics and aryan race like it's it's such a push
• 46:24
  Speaker 18: to be able to get it there. It's a crazy take.
• 46:26
  Speaker 18: But honestly, mate, I was watching Sky last night and
• 46:28
  Speaker 18: I think as a crazy take as that is, you've
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: got a crazy take that you don't think Sidney Sweeney's
• 46:34
  Speaker 18: you got good jeans ridiculous.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: That makes my head spitch. I don't understand she's not
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: looked at.
• 46:40
  Speaker 12: Not my type.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I prefer women with a little that's very attractive. Half
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: fathom it, I tell you what to be Frank, I've
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: never heard of her, so I was struggling. But yes, sir,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I've seen the out a few times now and she
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: does past muster. And that's why I've got some good
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: news to share with you. I think tim In particularly
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: will be interested in this because if you remember back
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: during the Biden years, this is what we were shown
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in American corporate advertising when it came to women.
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: Hi impressive carrying skills, right, I got some bud lights
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: for us. So I kept hearing about this thing called
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: March Madness, and I thought we were all just having
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: a hectic month. But it turns out it has something
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: to do with sports.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm preferring Sidney Sweeney,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I think. But now American conservatives are saying this is
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: all about making American great again, that Donald Trump has
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: brought back sex appeal to American advertising. Because have a
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: look at this one, Tim. You get a bit of
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney, and of the eight.
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: Sidney's Tweeney Hasburg Keynes.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And she's got a ripping mustang to Tim.
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: Absolutely, everyone's behaving as though this is the first model
• 48:16
  Speaker 13: ever to promote any kind of clothing, and it's really bad.
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: They picked a white girl, like have we forgotten for example,
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: just to go back to the mid nineties, Tyra Banks.
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: It's like, is every black model who's featured in other
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: clothing campaigns and in other modeling campaigns, in other fashion
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: campaign has everyone forgotten how many black women have been
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: involved because they're all spectacular, been good genes. Yes, I
• 48:42
  Speaker 13: mean it is. It's an insane thing to make this
• 48:46
  Speaker 13: step towards you know, everything bad is Nazi. There's no
• 48:49
  Speaker 13: sort of middle round, there's no sort of steps. It's
• 48:51
  Speaker 13: straight from like you know, he hey, you know ell
• 48:54
  Speaker 13: list and then just straight to the Nazi. They're crazy.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: It is pathetic, absolutely spot on. Thanks for joining us,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Tim and Mark. I appreciate it. Mark Nicholson from step
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Mate Studios, Tim Blair, you can read his stuff in
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph. That's all time we got for you
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: tonight and this week. I'll be back next week. Coming
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: up next is Steve Price sitting in for Peter Quidin.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I'll see you Monday