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A Holiday Spectacular · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark. I'm Megan, I'm Wendy,
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Speaker 1: and today we are wrapping up our marathon of holiday
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Speaker 1: movie reviews with a Holiday Spectacular, a dual timeline Hallmark movie.
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Speaker 1: Is it sure cool? Grandma telling the story to her granddad. Oh? Yes,
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Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, You're right, You're right. Before we
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Speaker 1: tell you our thoughts on this spectacular movie, we would
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Speaker 1: Please let's talk about Hallmark Okay? Can I can I
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Speaker 1: just make a quick mention real quick? Oh not about Hallmark, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but about about our music for the podcast sounds like
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Speaker 1: British Bakeoff one hundred percent and not your fault.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know why you're saying sorry, but I
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Speaker 2: listened to our couple of our episodes earlier this week.
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Speaker 2: I just think the music sounds so much like the
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Speaker 2: Great British Bakeoff.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, it's funny. We Yeah, I mean, we
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Speaker 1: both we picked it, we mutually chose it. But as
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Speaker 1: I was adding it, I thought, this sounds exactly like
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Speaker 1: the intro to the bake off. So maybe next year,
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Speaker 1: well we'll have new music come January. Yeah, exactly exciting
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Speaker 1: first up in Hallmark News. This is not new news,
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Speaker 1: but it's not something we've discussed and maybe the listeners
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Speaker 1: don't know that Hallmark has partnered with Hilton. They have
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Speaker 1: Hallmark Holiday sweets themed according to them, to fan favorite
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Speaker 1: countdown to Christmas movies. They have three locations, the Hilton Chicago,
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Speaker 1: the Hilton San Diego Bayfront, and Hilton Las Vegas at
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Speaker 1: Resorts World. I just want to say, we looked up
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Speaker 1: the rates for the Hilton San Diego Bayfront. It was
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Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars a night, get out of town.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's paid for that sixteen hundred bucks. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I would love to go do that for like a
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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of that price. Seriously, who is paid?
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Speaker 1: Just imagine this stuff being like, you know, touched and
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Speaker 1: used it. Yeah, I'm not that interested in being the
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Speaker 1: second person to stay in these suites. No, you want
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Speaker 1: to be the first person, right, I want to be
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Speaker 1: I want a fresh sweet what I would love if
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Speaker 1: Since we're close to their invite us down, we'll cover it.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it here on the podcast, we will
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Speaker 1: put it on our blog. I pre the place then, yeah,
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Speaker 1: let me in. Yeah, I just want to see it.
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Speaker 1: I don't need to stay there. Correct. Yeah? Interesting? What
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Speaker 1: else you got? And another Hallmark collaboration. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you've heard about this, but Hallmark offers live streams
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Speaker 1: of Christmas towns. They're called Christmas Camps and they go
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Speaker 1: live I believe on December first. They have five towns,
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Speaker 1: Harbor Springs, Michigan, Saint Paul, Minnesota, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Saint Petersburg, Florida,
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Speaker 1: and Corning, New York. They are live streaming from ten
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Speaker 1: am until ten pm.
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Speaker 2: So it's like a small town street that we're looking at,
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Speaker 2: like if.
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Speaker 1: You want to get in on. They call them Real
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Speaker 1: Life Hallmark Channel Christmas Towns. I can't fully understand the
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Speaker 1: driving force behind.
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Speaker 2: This unless you're someone who lives in southern California who
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Speaker 2: doesn't have like gets a snowy downtown Christmas scene. However,
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Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg, Florida doesn't have that eat.
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Speaker 1: So No, Oh, have you seen the ads for Enchant,
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Speaker 1: the new Disney movie. No, that's Disenchanted and is the
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Speaker 1: world's largest Christmas light Maize and village. That's what they're
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Speaker 1: showing you in Saint Petersburg, Florida. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: watch that on the internet, you know. I months ago,
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Speaker 1: a year ago, the timing I don't remember. I walked
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Speaker 1: into my parents' house and on their TV was the
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Speaker 1: bald Eagle Cam live from Big Beer, California. Because they
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Speaker 1: were watching the bald eagles that were sitting on their
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Speaker 1: nest waiting for their their offspring hatch. Yeah, that's more
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Speaker 1: exciting to me. Way into it, and they're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's Jackie and Chance. I don't remember. They knew their
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Speaker 1: names and how they had had an egg that had
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Speaker 1: hatched but that didn't survive, and so everyone was all
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Speaker 1: in on this new baby bald eagle. I think that's
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Speaker 1: thrilling on the screen. Yeah, that's cute. Cuts. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: a holiday spectacular.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, you want your synopsis all right? In nineteen
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Speaker 2: fifty eight, Maggie is an heiress from Philadelphia who puts
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Speaker 2: her high society wedding plans on hold. In order to
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Speaker 2: sneak up to New York City to make her secret
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Speaker 2: dream come true, dancing live on stage in the Christmas
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Speaker 2: Spectacular at Radio City Music Hall. Stars Gina Claire Mason,
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Speaker 2: Derek Clenna, Eve Plumb and and Margaret and features the
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Speaker 2: Radio City Rackets.
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Speaker 1: This was filmed in January and February and upstate New
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Speaker 1: York as well as in New York City. Julie Shermanwolf
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Speaker 1: has a photo that she posted to Twitter showing how
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Speaker 1: they had shut down the street in front of Radio
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Speaker 1: City Music Hall, which I would imagine as a writer
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Speaker 1: seeing that happen for your movies, pretty dang exciting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's super cool. When we had
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Speaker 2: her on the podcast back, was that in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: or early twenty twenty one?
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Speaker 1: Early twenty twenty one? Didn't we ask her if she
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Speaker 1: went to set after she writes some movies? We didn't.
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Speaker 2: It might have been a question I had but didn't ask.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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Speaker 1: You think we did ask that. I think we did
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Speaker 1: ask that, and she said it depends on I think
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Speaker 1: a number of factors whether the writer is there. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: but she appeared to be there. She posted a number
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Speaker 1: of photos.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she lives in Connecticut, right, Yes, how close
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Speaker 2: is Connecticut people.
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Speaker 1: To New York? Connecticut to New York. People live in
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Speaker 1: Connecticut and work in the city.
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Speaker 2: So geography not my strong suit. Okay, so yeah, maybe
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Speaker 2: she just popped in for the day or whatever.
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Speaker 1: That's cool. I think she was there a lot.
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Speaker 2: Gina Clare Mason plays Maggie. She played Glinda in Broadway's Wicked,
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Speaker 2: beginning in April twenty nineteen. Of course, the pandemic closed
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Speaker 2: Broadway for a number of months. I was lucky enough
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Speaker 2: to see her last December in that role, and she
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Speaker 2: shortly left Wicked right after that in early twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 1: She has that Glinda look about her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what's funny is like I wonder
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Speaker 2: if she left Wicked to do this movie.
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Speaker 1: Maybe, But you know, it's funny because what you say
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Speaker 1: that she was in it in twenty maybe it was
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Speaker 1: that she was the standby from twenty fifteen to twenty
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Speaker 1: seventeen and then came back as the lead Glinday, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's correct. Okay, my daughter saw us a playbill, so
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Speaker 1: I went and pulled it down just to make sure,
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Speaker 1: Like that's who we actually saw. Yeah, it was her.
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Speaker 1: Derek Clenna, who plays John in this movie. I mean
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Speaker 1: John anyway. Uh. He is a Tony nominated Broadway actor
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Speaker 1: as well for his role in Jagged Little Pill. He
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Speaker 1: was also in Anastasia and The Bridges of Madison County.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, were you are you familiar at all with him? No?
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Speaker 1: Because I've never seen any of those shows. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: I feel like, if we're going to have a Broadway
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Speaker 1: star in a movie, look, I'm here for it. But
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Speaker 1: could the guide sing or dance or something? We got
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Speaker 1: one line of just nuts roasting and that's.
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Speaker 2: It, I know, but that is in my Did you
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Speaker 2: see that? He sounded like heaven? What a voice on that?
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Speaker 1: Dude? Agree?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was expecting something more like I wanted
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Speaker 2: a song and dance from them. But this, I guess,
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Speaker 2: was not a musical. So I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we need another musical. If we're going to get
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Speaker 1: these Broadway stars, put them to work.
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Speaker 2: Well, wasn't it Julie Sherman's woof?
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Speaker 1: Didn't she have another movie with some Broadway stars in't it?
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Speaker 1: In fact, she did Royal Holiday that had some Broadway
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Speaker 1: gets in there, and She mentioned in that interview that
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Speaker 1: Wendy referenced earlier that the only reason they were able
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Speaker 1: to get them is because of the pandemic and Broadway
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Speaker 1: being shut down, and they would never have been able
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Speaker 1: to get them otherwise.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Gallo plays Sophia Maggie's friend in this movie. And
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Speaker 2: she has one acting credit on IMDb and it is
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Speaker 2: this movie. But I was like what, so I googled
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Speaker 2: and did some more investigating. She is a stage actress
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Speaker 2: and has a pretty good resume.
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Speaker 1: Well, I will link her her.
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Speaker 2: Resume in our show notes for you, But I thought
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Speaker 2: she was fantastic in this.
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Speaker 1: I mean Gena Clare Mason. This is the only screen
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Speaker 1: acting that she has done. Mm hmmm. I think she
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Speaker 1: was great. I think she should do more. Mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: A couple notes about the Rockets. Oh, I think we
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Speaker 1: might have the same one, but go ahead. Well, first
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Speaker 1: of all, in the early days of the Rockets, a
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Speaker 1: dancer needed to be between five foot two and five
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Speaker 1: foot seven. However, nowadays the maximum height is five foot
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Speaker 1: ten and a half.
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Speaker 2: Oh interesting is that because they have that kick line
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Speaker 2: and they don't want like one super tall person there
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Speaker 2: and one, yes, super small person.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were originally only sixteen women, but it has
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Speaker 1: now grown to encompass eighty women today.
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Speaker 2: Now, what's the what's the like general feeling about the rockets?
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Speaker 2: Like I ask, and my only point of reference is
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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, and we know how problematic that
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Speaker 2: can be. Is it the same?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: Do they have to be certain weight? Do they have
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Speaker 2: to be certain height? Do they have to Are they
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Speaker 2: getting paid pennies?
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Speaker 1: Do you know? I don't know anything about what they
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Speaker 1: get paid. I would imagine they have to be a
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Speaker 1: certain weight, although I've never I don't know any of
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Speaker 1: that information there. I want to say one comment I
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Speaker 1: have about that for a bigger conversation. Oh yeah, I
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Speaker 1: know we're headed. But there are precision dancers. I think
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Speaker 1: they're considered to be highly trained, incredible dancers. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what the opinion is of the organization as a whole.
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Speaker 1: It's a damn delight. If you ever are in New
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Speaker 1: York at the holidays.
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Speaker 2: Well I was last year and oh they closed. They
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Speaker 2: went dark because it was kind of the rise of Omicron.
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Speaker 2: We didn't get to see them, but we weren't planning
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Speaker 2: on it because I was like the Rockets, but after
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Speaker 2: seeing this movie makes me think that I would probably
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Speaker 2: go back and make that a priority to go see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of those scenes are straight out of
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Speaker 1: what they actually do, like that nutcracker scene and all that.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Mesher is a rocket and you might have noticed her
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Speaker 2: in this movie. She has one hand.
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Speaker 1: Oh I did not notice.
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Speaker 2: She joined the troupe in twenty nineteen and she's the
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Speaker 2: first person with a visible disability ever hired by the
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Speaker 2: Radio City Rockets. I will link a article about her
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Speaker 2: in the show notes.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for sharing that. Yes, are you ready
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Speaker 1: for first impressions? Yes, we need to talk about diversity.
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Speaker 2: H Yeah, well yeah I have those notes too.
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Speaker 1: Definitely. My first impression is I freaking love a dance movie. Yeah, yes,
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Speaker 1: I do love.
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Speaker 2: A dance movie. I don't it's maybe I was a
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Speaker 2: dancer in a former life or.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I love a dance movie. Me too.
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Speaker 1: And it was actual roquettes dancing on stage. It's really
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Speaker 1: funny when they do the cut ins on, like the
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Speaker 1: close up of like Gina Clair Mason, who is a
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Speaker 1: Broadway actress. She can dance, but I don't know if
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Speaker 1: she can rocket dance. So in the wide scenes, she's
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Speaker 1: not them Oh interesting, she's making the line she's like
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Speaker 1: bouncing up and down. Funny. I loved that, Like, yes,
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Speaker 1: give me the actual rockets, and there was lots of it.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't just like once or twice. So let's talk
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Speaker 1: about what we liked. Okay, do game, ky do game.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think I missed a lot of this,
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Speaker 1: but when we were watching, there were some marquee pop
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Speaker 1: ups with like information about the rockets, like when they started. Now,
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Speaker 1: I only saw one or two of these because I
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Speaker 1: just didn't notice them, but I liked them when they
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Speaker 1: would pop up. I wish I had been paying closer
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Speaker 1: attention to things that they were saying.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't there a TV show like that pop up pop
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Speaker 2: up on her video? Yeah, where you get like additional information.
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Speaker 2: They should re air this with more pop up information.
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Speaker 1: You should volder Hallmark movies with like bloop about the actors,
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Speaker 1: about where it was filmed, with did you see that
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Speaker 1: kind of moment? Call us Hallmark. We got ideas we
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Speaker 1: could host that. I know, I know. I liked everything
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Speaker 1: in this movie.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from the acting to the costumes to did a
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Speaker 2: dancing I.
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Speaker 1: Loved it all. I agree me too. The costumes gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder if those were Oh I love a
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Speaker 2: period piece from this era. I swear to god, I
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Speaker 2: lived in this era at some point. I am so
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Speaker 2: drawn to it. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Why were you about to say? I wonder if those
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Speaker 1: were actual costumes. Yes, if they were, I believe because
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Speaker 1: there's an Instagram shot of one of the Rockets who
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Speaker 1: was in the movie, and she's a photoed in between performances,
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Speaker 1: and she's in one of those gold dresses. The nutcracker
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Speaker 1: dress for sure, the red and green dress, for sure.
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Speaker 1: They're all in the actual Yeah show, I have it.
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Speaker 1: I love that they had this real partnership with the Rockets.
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Speaker 1: This movie could not have been made to the level
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Speaker 1: that it was made without that partnership and that buy
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Speaker 1: in and that access and the stage and all of it.
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Speaker 1: It made the movie. I agree.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been a terrible production if it wasn't, like,
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Speaker 2: if it was on some weird sound stage or whatever. Right, wait,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, did they actually film this on stage
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Speaker 2: at Radio City Music Hall?
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Speaker 1: It certainly looked like it to me.
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Speaker 2: They weren't using some weird soundstage, I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and it's postseason. I mean, I know there's other
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Speaker 1: things at Radio City, but they're not doing five shows
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Speaker 1: a day of the Roquette, so they would have had
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Speaker 1: other times of the day to have access to the stage.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I actually had that question while watching this.
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Speaker 2: Do the Rockets only perform during Christmas time?
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So then what happens in the off season with
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Speaker 2: those dancers?
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Speaker 1: What do they do?
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Speaker 2: Do they are they on Broadway? Are they doing different projects?
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing in the off seasons most Roquets perform as
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Speaker 1: dancers or actors professionally. The Rockettes season is November eighteenth
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Speaker 1: through January second this year. I would imagine it's roughly
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Speaker 1: the same based on how time falls, and the annual
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Speaker 1: salary of a Roquette is thirty six thousand to thirty
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Speaker 1: nine thousand. Keeping in mind they only perform for about
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Speaker 1: six weeks and then I would have imagine they have
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Speaker 1: maybe a month of rehearsal prior to that. And although
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Speaker 1: they do not get year round work, the dancers do
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Speaker 1: receive year round benefits.
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Speaker 2: Interesting hmm, I really thought Gina Claire Mason was so
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Speaker 2: great in this. Yeah, there was a way that she
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Speaker 2: moved through the scenes, like the way that she moved
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Speaker 2: her body, And I wondered if it was something to
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Speaker 2: do with like being a stage actress, Like I.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent know what you're talking about, do.
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Speaker 2: You Like when she would leave a scene, it would
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Speaker 2: be like she would back out of it, like you
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Speaker 2: don't turn your back to the crowd, right.
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Speaker 1: Or it just seems I don't know what it was,
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Speaker 1: but it was. It was enjoyable to watch. I thought
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Speaker 1: she gave great faces too, Like I just really really
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Speaker 1: enjoyed her so much. Yeah, she had a real awareness
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Speaker 1: of her body that I don't think is common in
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Speaker 1: screen actors. Yes, yes, I want people to go back
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Speaker 1: and watch that, like if you missed it the first time,
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Speaker 1: like if you if you see this movie again in
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Speaker 1: a repeat, like just pay close attention to that. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know. As I was watching this, much like my
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Speaker 1: experience with watching Hall Alcoholly. While I was watching it,
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Speaker 1: I was very aware that I was enjoying watching it,
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Speaker 1: and I turned to my husband halfway through the movie,
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Speaker 1: just like I did at the end of Hall the Holly,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you think? And he's like, eh,
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Speaker 1: what was this man? Why you I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: thought you didn't like the jokey Gilmore Girls style movie,
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Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me because dude can't stand the Gilmore Girls.
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Speaker 1: But this is classic. You love the Rockeads. We've seen
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Speaker 1: the Rockets multiple times. He would see The Rockets every
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Speaker 1: single time we go to New York. What is there
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Speaker 1: not to love about this movie? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that alone wasn't a draw for him. Yes,
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Speaker 2: what's his favorite Hallmark movie?
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Speaker 1: Do you know? Don't know. I'm gonna need you to
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Speaker 1: ask him.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think I might give us some insight on
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Speaker 2: like what kind of movie he likes.
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Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's the Hallmark of Yesteryear. Yeah, oh for sure. Well, well, anyway,
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Speaker 1: this doesn't matter. He didn't like it, moving on? That
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Speaker 1: bums me up. Is there anything else you liked? No,
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Speaker 1: what'd you wish for? I think what I wished for
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Speaker 1: is the bigger conversation that we need to have.
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Speaker 2: At first, I was like, I didn't wish for anything.
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Speaker 2: I love this movie. However, while I was watching it
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Speaker 2: and I was I was wondering at the time, like
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Speaker 2: how diverse were the Rockets during nineteen forty seven? Like
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Speaker 2: I was kind of surprise at the number of people
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Speaker 2: of color that were a part of the troop. Yes,
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Speaker 2: as like can that be accurate? And then I finished
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Speaker 2: watching the movie. I didn't think about it again until
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Speaker 2: I started to put my notes together for this and
18:59
Speaker 2: I found some information. I'm guessing you found the same. Yes,
19:03
Speaker 2: it was confirmed by Sleepy Kitty Pod this morning. Whoop, no, sorry,
19:08
Speaker 2: it was confirmed by Sleepy Kitty Pod on Twitter that
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Speaker 2: the Rockets were not fully integrated until nineteen eighty eight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one person that blows my mind. Jennifer Jones
19:22
Speaker 1: auditioned in eighty seven, joined in eighty eight. Yeah. I
19:26
Speaker 1: think it's a bigger conversation, and it's more than just
19:29
Speaker 1: about this movie. I mean, obviously it made me think
19:34
Speaker 1: we when we first started this would kind of do
19:36
Speaker 1: a diversity check on these movies, like how did Hallmark rank?
19:39
Speaker 1: We haven't really done that, And I think Hallmark takes
19:46
Speaker 1: baby steps in terms of the progress that they make
19:48
Speaker 1: because they have to bring their audience along with them slowly,
19:53
Speaker 1: and while if you look at Hallmark's overall catalog of
19:57
Speaker 1: movies this year. Is it more progressive yes? Is it
20:00
Speaker 1: more diverse? Yes? Are they telling a variety of stories? Yes? However,
20:04
Speaker 1: is it enough to say, look, we have Mahogany. Look,
20:08
Speaker 1: we have two movies that feature Asian American families. But
20:11
Speaker 1: if you look at the movies, oh, look this movie
20:14
Speaker 1: has two white stars. Are there any people of color
20:18
Speaker 1: in this movie? Were there any people of color in
20:21
Speaker 1: time for him to come Home for Christmas? Or hashtag
20:25
Speaker 1: Aximus or haul out the Holly? Are we there? And
20:29
Speaker 1: then how do we feel about Hallmark? I'm glad that
20:35
Speaker 1: they had people of color in their nineteen forty seven
20:38
Speaker 1: faux rockets. Some people aren't. Yeah. I read some reviews
20:43
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is revision, is history, and that's
20:45
Speaker 1: really interesting. Like are we? I guess it depends how
20:49
Speaker 1: you look at it, right, Like is Hallmark giving credit
20:50
Speaker 1: where it's not due? Or is Hallmark trying to say
20:53
Speaker 1: we are not going to field twenty white dancers in
20:57
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, even if it's represented of nineteen forty seven.
21:01
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know. I don't know either.
21:06
Speaker 2: I think we might not have we might have to
21:08
Speaker 2: take this to Julie Sherman Wolf. Oh, yeah, I'm really curious.
21:14
Speaker 2: I'm sure this had to have been a topic of conversation.
21:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, the roughheats themselves were involved. Great. So I mean,
21:22
Speaker 1: I don't know.
21:23
Speaker 2: Your hands are kind of tied, like if they do,
21:26
Speaker 2: they're what's the same.
21:29
Speaker 1: Like, damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's it. Yeah,
21:32
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I don't know what the right answer
21:34
Speaker 1: is here me neither. I wish for something else, tell me?
21:37
Speaker 1: So did I? I ask myself? Did we need the
21:40
Speaker 1: romance in this movie? Coar On? It was good, it was,
21:45
Speaker 1: but but she was engaged. She falls in love with
21:51
Speaker 1: another man while she's engaged. Yes, it was an engagement
21:54
Speaker 1: of convenience, and it was an engagement to further their families.
21:58
Speaker 1: But does it take away from the tale of finding
22:04
Speaker 1: your own happiness? Well?
22:07
Speaker 2: I mean she Are you bothered because she lied about it?
22:12
Speaker 1: No, I'm not bothered because she lied about it. We
22:15
Speaker 1: took issue with Will Kemp's character falling in love while
22:19
Speaker 1: he was dating someone else. Fair, fair, fair, what's the difference?
22:24
Speaker 1: And she her hands were tied, That is the difference.
22:27
Speaker 1: She didn't have the freedom in her life that Will
22:29
Speaker 1: Kemp had in his But I don't know how I
22:32
Speaker 1: feel about it.
22:33
Speaker 2: She mentioned several times, like, but we're just friends. We're
22:37
Speaker 2: just friends, So is it naive to think that She thought, like,
22:43
Speaker 2: this is strictly a friendship, but I kind of have
22:47
Speaker 2: feelings for this guy too.
22:49
Speaker 1: I don't think it's naive to think that. But the
22:51
Speaker 1: second she ends her engagement, she then goes to John
22:56
Speaker 1: to tell him and says, and I'm falling in love
22:59
Speaker 1: with you. Is that a realization she had on the
23:03
Speaker 1: walk from the restaurant. Probably not now. I thought the
23:07
Speaker 1: love story was very sweet. I was very all in
23:10
Speaker 1: on the love story. Of course. I wanted them to
23:12
Speaker 1: end up together. I was like, she's going to support him. Well,
23:15
Speaker 1: he goes to school, and they're gonna be this cute
23:17
Speaker 1: New York couple. I wanted that. Yeah, I don't know,
23:21
Speaker 1: is the struggle enough for this for the I don't know, Okay,
23:25
Speaker 1: good questions, Megan.
23:26
Speaker 2: For one last thing, I wish they would have showed
23:29
Speaker 2: more of Maggie's pursuit in becoming a rocket, like.
23:33
Speaker 1: One audition and boom, yeah she gets it. Yeah, And
23:37
Speaker 1: I was like, what you know, it has to be
23:40
Speaker 1: more than that, right, Sure, DCC takes weeks exactly exactly
23:46
Speaker 1: if you don't know what we're talking about.
23:48
Speaker 2: We're talking about making the team Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Yeah,
23:51
Speaker 2: like it almost to me seemed like I thought she
23:56
Speaker 2: was taking dance lessons as an adult, like for the
23:59
Speaker 2: first time.
24:00
Speaker 1: She was an adult, right, yes, And it's just like
24:05
Speaker 1: her and.
24:05
Speaker 2: Her friend and they're like taking dance lessons. This is
24:07
Speaker 2: what you do when you live in high society Philadelphia
24:09
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty seven. I guess I don't because you
24:12
Speaker 2: don't work and.
24:12
Speaker 1: You're not married. Right. Did she go to college?
24:15
Speaker 2: Probably not right, right, So I guess you just take
24:19
Speaker 2: dance lessons during the day and then there just happens
24:22
Speaker 2: to be an audition and she gets it just like that.
24:26
Speaker 2: Yeah locally, yeah, well Philadelphia is close right to New York.
24:31
Speaker 1: It is, But I don't think she. I still think
24:34
Speaker 1: she wasn't in New York. I mean it was like
24:36
Speaker 1: they were doing a local audition looking for talent. I agree.
24:39
Speaker 1: I thought I think it was too easy. Yeah, too easy,
24:42
Speaker 1: you know, just like a question for you, uh huh?
24:47
Speaker 2: Would it have been weird at the time, She's like
24:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to New York for the next couple of weeks,
24:52
Speaker 2: and I'm not telling you exactly where I'm going or
24:55
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, but I'll be home.
24:57
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird, you know. Oh, I'm waiting
25:00
Speaker 1: on this dress to be made right, to be here
25:03
Speaker 1: for three or four weeks. Yeah, it was weird to me. Yeah,
25:06
Speaker 1: what the hell do I know? But I don't know anything, Like,
25:09
Speaker 1: they had phones back then, but they were like just
25:12
Speaker 1: like they had no tabs on their daughter. But she
25:15
Speaker 1: was an adult too, so you know, I don't know,
25:18
Speaker 1: and staying with a family friend as far as they knew,
25:20
Speaker 1: and just maybe they just couldn't have them a world
25:23
Speaker 1: in which she would so strongly disobey their desires for
25:27
Speaker 1: her thiss obey. Oh god, I can't even That's what
25:31
Speaker 1: they That's how they felt, I know, but it just
25:34
Speaker 1: is weird. That's all I have or wished for I have.
25:37
Speaker 1: But one did you see that? So do I? She
25:40
Speaker 1: hasn't seen the tree. It's around the corner. What tree
25:44
Speaker 1: are you talking about? The Rockefeller's on her Christmas tree?
25:47
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what was
25:50
Speaker 2: interesting in that scene because I visited there last year
25:53
Speaker 2: and it's packed to the nines, like it's a shoulder
25:56
Speaker 2: to shoulder. You can't see anything.
25:58
Speaker 1: People are taking pictures with their iPads, right because they
26:01
Speaker 1: go and it's like there's nobody there was there even
26:06
Speaker 1: an ice skating rink. There was not right, I don't know.
26:09
Speaker 1: I mean, it's clearly a green screen. The tree's not
26:11
Speaker 1: up in January when they're fo yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
26:14
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So they've recreated the scene. I thought they
26:18
Speaker 1: did it well, but it's right around the corner. This
26:21
Speaker 1: reminds me of the time my husband and I were
26:23
Speaker 1: in New York visiting a friend of his. We said
26:25
Speaker 1: something about the tree, and the friend had lived there
26:27
Speaker 1: for eight years and goes, yeah, I've never seen it.
26:30
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, And I thought, I can understand not seeking
26:35
Speaker 1: it out if it doesn't have any meaning to you.
26:37
Speaker 1: It's not excited, it's not a holiday you celebrate. But
26:40
Speaker 1: never in eight years have you crossed paths with this
26:43
Speaker 1: giant tree. Just blew my mind.
26:47
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff around there, stores and shopping
26:50
Speaker 2: and like food, Like you don't walk over there.
26:53
Speaker 1: You live there eight years, right, I guess maybe you
26:56
Speaker 1: stay in your little area. I don't know. Blew my
26:58
Speaker 1: mind weird?
27:00
Speaker 2: Did you see that?
27:00
Speaker 1: I have?
27:01
Speaker 2: I shared with you off Mike the other day, but
27:04
Speaker 2: I would love to know if anybody else caught this.
27:07
Speaker 2: There is one b roll shot of the outside marquee
27:10
Speaker 2: of the Radio City Music Hall. They show it several times.
27:14
Speaker 2: They showed the outside marque several times throughout this movie,
27:17
Speaker 2: but there is one time on the marquee it is
27:19
Speaker 2: advertised that Conin Gray will be playing on March sixteenth,
27:23
Speaker 2: and Conin Gray is a current musical artist.
27:27
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, somebody missed that. Whoops, whoopsies. Are
27:31
Speaker 1: you ready to rate a holiday spectacular? I am? Would
27:36
Speaker 1: you rate it? I rated it? I thought this movie
27:39
Speaker 1: was really good, really really really good.
27:43
Speaker 2: I gave it four point seventy five stars. Because I'm
27:45
Speaker 2: conflicted about the diversity stuff.
27:50
Speaker 1: I gave it four and a half star. What you
27:53
Speaker 1: didn't like it four and a half? That's a great rating.
27:59
Speaker 1: I know. Oh, I mean I felt joy watching this movie.
28:03
Speaker 1: You know.
28:04
Speaker 2: As I sat down to make my note today, I
28:05
Speaker 2: was like, this is a five star movie.
28:06
Speaker 1: I have nothing to wish for. I loved everything about it.
28:08
Speaker 1: And then I started to dig and I was like, oh,
28:12
Speaker 1: that's not good. You know. So I felt the same
28:16
Speaker 1: way and that, oh, this is a five star movie.
28:19
Speaker 1: I have nothing to wish for. Things arose in my preparation.
28:24
Speaker 1: But also the rating system is nebulous. It's ultimately meaningless.
28:28
Speaker 1: And when I sat here and think, did it bring
28:31
Speaker 1: me as much joy as Haul Out the Holly or
28:36
Speaker 1: what's my other five star movie?
28:38
Speaker 2: Three Wise Men and a Baby the Dudes.
28:41
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure it did. It's great. Four and
28:44
Speaker 1: a half is a great rating.
28:46
Speaker 2: I just it was so pleasant to watch.
28:48
Speaker 1: I agree.
28:49
Speaker 2: I love a dance movie. I just love a dance movie.
28:53
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you're saying. Okay, great movie. I
28:56
Speaker 1: recommend it. If you want to know what to watch
28:58
Speaker 1: this season. This gives me the holiday feels.
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Speaker 2: What are we reviewing next week?
29:05
Speaker 1: We are reviewing a fabled holiday and the holiday stocking.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Pave's really on my list these days, y'all, so
29:13
Speaker 1: stick around for that one. We will be back with
29:19
Speaker 1: your brand new episodes next week. Catch up with us
29:22
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