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Mom of 4, Uber Driver Begs For Her Life, MURDERED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Every day we used rideshare.
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Speaker 1: We use it all the time all across America. That's
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Speaker 1: the way to go. Very often we hear about attacks
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Speaker 1: by the driver on an individual, usually a female. We
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Speaker 1: don't hear very often about an uber driver or a
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Speaker 1: lift driver that goes missing. I mean, I see, Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation in Sirius XM one eleven. First
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Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to our friends and cut
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Speaker 1: one kd KA fit Karen Police say Christy Specusa was
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Speaker 1: driving as an Uber driver Thursday night when family says
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Speaker 1: she went radio silence. Police say this morning they found
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Speaker 1: Specusa's call on Fourth Street and Pitt Karen. Pitt Karen
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Speaker 1: Police say her purse was still in the car and
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Speaker 1: an Uber camera inside was missing. It's horrible that one
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Speaker 1: of us has gone missing and we have no protection,
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Speaker 1: and now we're worried are we going to be next?
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Speaker 1: We talked to two local Uber drivers who say they're
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Speaker 1: horrified by what happened and believe more safety measures need
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Speaker 1: to be in place to keep drivers safe. It scares
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Speaker 1: me because we have no protection. An investigation into what
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Speaker 1: happened to Spicuza is ongoing, but until the case is solved,
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Speaker 1: these drivers say they'll be driving with extra cautient. Police
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Speaker 1: have not released any information on a suspect or suspects,
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Speaker 1: but they are asking anyone that knows anything to call
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Speaker 1: the County tipline. Police say callers can remain anonymous again.
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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace is his crime stories. Thanks for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation in series x M
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Speaker 1: one eleven with me and all Star panel to make
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Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. First of all,
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years in Metro major case. Former Swatnell lawyer
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Speaker 1: James shell Nutt at the shell Nutt Law Firm. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining us out of the Atlanta
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Speaker 1: jurisdiction at Angela Arnold MD dot com. Justin Boardman, former
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Speaker 1: Special Victims Unit detective, author of I Was Wrong. You
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Speaker 1: can find him at Justin Boardman dot com. Katherine Maloney,
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Speaker 1: doctor Katherine Maloney, Deputy Chief Medical because the Medical Examiner,
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Speaker 1: Erie County Medical Examiner's Office. But first straight out to
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Speaker 1: Alyssa Raymond, anchor, reporter WPXI Channel eleven. Alissa, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much, for joining us. This goes down in Monroeville, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1: Let's just start right there. Where's Monroeville. If you think
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Speaker 1: about the city of Pittsburgh, Monroeville is on the east
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Speaker 1: side of the city, at about a fifteen twenty minute
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Speaker 1: drive from there. In all of these areas that we're
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Speaker 1: going to be talking about today are to known as
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Speaker 1: boroughs or townships. That's the thing in western Pennsylvania where
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Speaker 1: a lot of these places have their own police departments,
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Speaker 1: their own governments, and their own school districts. How big
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Speaker 1: is it? How big is Monroeville? Monroeville is pretty sizable.
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Speaker 1: They have a big business district. It's definitely a lot
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Speaker 1: bigger than pitt Karen, which is where this all originated. Well,
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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Pittsburgh is how far away
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Speaker 1: from Philadelphia? We're talking four plus hours? Yeah, because we
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Speaker 1: were looking at the distance between the Warhol Museum and Philly,
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Speaker 1: and even by train where you don't have any traffic lights,
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Speaker 1: it's four to five hours by train to get there,
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Speaker 1: and you go through a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 1: land open land surrounding that area. Would you refer to
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Speaker 1: it as cosmopolitan? Would you refer to it as rural.
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Speaker 1: How would you refer to Monroeville. I would not refer
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Speaker 1: to it as rural because it does have your shops
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Speaker 1: and your car dealerships, and there's not a lot of
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Speaker 1: farm land around them. I mean, it's the population about
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Speaker 1: twenty seven thousand, Yeah, yeah, ad sizable twenty seven twenty
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Speaker 1: seven thousand around there the last time. So yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: A lot of people would consider that. I guess shell
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Speaker 1: nut coming from Atlanta metro major case, would that's kind
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Speaker 1: of the size of the area where I grew up
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Speaker 1: in unincorporated bib County, which was all rural when you
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Speaker 1: compare that to a major city like New York, Atlanta's, Chicago, LA.
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Speaker 1: And the reason I ask is because that's how you
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Speaker 1: start with a crime scene investigation. Would you agree with that,
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Speaker 1: James shell NUTT. Somebody goes missing, either they left on
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Speaker 1: their own, they've had some sort of an accident where
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Speaker 1: they were taken. The fact that her purse is sitting
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Speaker 1: in her car, and I am talking about the victim
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Speaker 1: in this case, Christina Pasuza. Her purse is sitting in
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Speaker 1: her car. She's on her job as an uber driver,
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Speaker 1: and there's no indication that she left willingly, So that
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Speaker 1: tells me that she was taken. Now, when you're dealing
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Speaker 1: with an area of twenty seven thousand population, how does
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Speaker 1: that weigh into your investigation? James shell Nutt, Well, it
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Speaker 1: weighs in an investigation that there may not be as
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Speaker 1: many witnesses as if it was in a major metropolitan area.
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Speaker 1: But it also, on the flip side of that possibly
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Speaker 1: cuts down on the overall number of suspects that you
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Speaker 1: have as well. You know, there certainly is not going
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Speaker 1: to be as many cameras or as many eyes out there.
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Speaker 1: So that night match you Alyssa Raymond anchor reporter to WPXI,
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Speaker 1: Christina was was this her main job, a second job,
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Speaker 1: a part time job? I know she has four children, right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she has four children. And they were really low on cash,
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Speaker 1: her fiance says that, and she was just trying to
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Speaker 1: make some money, actual money for a family. And also
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Speaker 1: they were saying that, you know, she spent her last
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Speaker 1: funds at the prior stop before this final uber ride.
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Speaker 1: She she did what she spent her last what the
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Speaker 1: last of her money at this stop prior to this
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Speaker 1: final uber ride. They were so low on cash that
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Speaker 1: she spent her final money right before the final Uber
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Speaker 1: ride is what her fiance said. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: Our Frenzy KDKA and our cut too. Police s a
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Speaker 1: Spekuza's family last heard from her on Thursday night while
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Speaker 1: she was driving for Uber. They say her purse was
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Speaker 1: in the car, but her Uber camera was missing. Johnson
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Speaker 1: says the company needs stronger safety protocols, so if it's missing,
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Speaker 1: how does that really help anyone? So I think, but
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Speaker 1: I just think they they're safety precautions, I'm sure, or
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Speaker 1: they can dig. They're too smart that they should be
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Speaker 1: able to protect your drivers better. Johnson says she's a
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Speaker 1: part time Uber driver herself, but she says she'll never
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Speaker 1: do it again. We reached out to Uber. A spokesperson
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Speaker 1: says they are deeply committed to the safety of drivers
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Speaker 1: and they have procedures in place. They also said in
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Speaker 1: a statement, our thoughts are with Christie's family and friends
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Speaker 1: during this difficult time. Uber's twenty four seven public Safety
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Speaker 1: team has been assisting police in the investigation. By to
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Speaker 1: Lisa Raymond joining usup side Channel eleven, tell me about
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Speaker 1: the night she goes missing, What happened to listen. It's
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Speaker 1: all started on Thursday, February tenth. Her fiance says that
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Speaker 1: she was picking up some extra uber rides to get
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Speaker 1: some extra cash for her family, and he said that
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Speaker 1: she usually checked in with him every hour when she
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Speaker 1: was out on these rides, and the last time he
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Speaker 1: heard from her was around at nine o'clock. Again, that
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Speaker 1: was Thursday, February tenth, as she was leaving Steel City Vapors,
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Speaker 1: like I mentioned, eight, had said that they're very low
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Speaker 1: in cash, and that's where she spent the last of
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Speaker 1: her money. So how far away is that from where
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Speaker 1: her car was found? So if you're looking at Monroeville
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Speaker 1: and pick Karen, they're really close, about less than a
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Speaker 1: ten minute drive, i'd say from those two locations. I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to take this all in. Tell me about the
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Speaker 1: discovery of the vehicle, and I'm taking that this was
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Speaker 1: a part time job. Alyssa Raymond joining us. Tell me
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Speaker 1: about the discovery of the vehicle. They're back to Thursday,
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Speaker 1: February tenth, that's the last time you heard from her,
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Speaker 1: and weave fast forward to Friday, February eleven. Oh wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: Waite White, So Thursday she's heard from around eight PMS
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Speaker 1: that what you said, nine pm, nine pm? Thank you?
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Speaker 1: Last time he heard from her? Then when is she
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Speaker 1: reported missing? Friday February eleventh, and her fiance was very
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Speaker 1: active on Facebook posting updates saying this is so unlike
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Speaker 1: her to not hear from her. You know that he
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Speaker 1: was just at a loss for words, and he reported
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Speaker 1: her missing. He's the one that called nine one one, Alyssa, Yes, yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: right there, Angela Arnold. The fact that he reported her missing,
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Speaker 1: the fiance, Brandon Marteau. That says a lot to me.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. How many times have you
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Speaker 1: and I talked about missing women, doctor Angie? And let's
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Speaker 1: just talk about Susanne Morphew, Barry Morphew. The husband goes
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Speaker 1: out of town on Mother's Day. He claims to a
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Speaker 1: work site out of town, and he calls his daughters.
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Speaker 1: They call mom, can't find her. Then they contact a
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Speaker 1: neighbor to go check on her. He's not the one
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Speaker 1: doing any of the calling. And so often we see
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Speaker 1: that the husband, fiance, boyfriend, they're not calling nine one one,
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Speaker 1: they're not outlooking. But here we have the fiance, Brandon
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Speaker 1: Marto actively trying to find her, posting, calling her, and
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Speaker 1: finally reporting her missing the next day. And even when
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Speaker 1: I say the next day, typically that would be too
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Speaker 1: long of a lapse to report someone missing, but she
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Speaker 1: is last her from at nine pm and then he
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Speaker 1: reports her the next day. So, doctor Agie, what are
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Speaker 1: you learning from that fact? What I'm learning is, first
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Speaker 1: of all, she's It sounds like she very much sticks
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Speaker 1: to a routine, and as soon as that routine was broken,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like her fiance put it out there to
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Speaker 1: everyone that he possibly could to try to find her.
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Speaker 1: Imagine how frantic he must have done, because I mean, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: if you can't get in touch with somebody on the
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Speaker 1: phone and you're accustomed to herring from them every hour,
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Speaker 1: what do you do? Where do you go looking for him?
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Speaker 1: So he put it out on social media? I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the man was frantic, right, but she had broken her habit,
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Speaker 1: and I'll bet he knew. I'll bet he was frantic
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Speaker 1: because he knew that something had happened to her. You
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Speaker 1: know that's interesting that you said that to you just
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Speaker 1: in boardman, I want to talk about routine evidence, not
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Speaker 1: evidence that is routine. I'm talking about evidence of routine.
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Speaker 1: Her routine was that when she was out ubering, she
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Speaker 1: would call in every hour, and when she missed that
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Speaker 1: first hour mark at ten pm, he probably shrugged it off.
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Speaker 1: But then as he got further and further on, he
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Speaker 1: became more and more concerned because she has doctor Angela
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Speaker 1: Arnold has just said, has broken with her long standing routine.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely that certainly throws up a bunch of red flags
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Speaker 1: for your partner. A lot of us have these type
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Speaker 1: of routines. They also helped keep us safe. She was
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Speaker 1: checking in every hour and then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: not all of a sudden, not you know, Alyssa Raymond
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Speaker 1: joining us WPXI, Alyssa. When did the fiance actually report
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Speaker 1: her missing? I'm not sure of the exact time on Friday,
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Speaker 1: f r eleventh, but I do know that even more
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Speaker 1: red flags went off when he tried to call her
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Speaker 1: again around four am and noticed that her phone went
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Speaker 1: to voicemail directly and knew it was turned off. So
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Speaker 1: I think that's when he really got concerned. And then
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Speaker 1: I don't know the precise time he reported or missing
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Speaker 1: to police, but the Facebook post was around seven o'clock
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Speaker 1: seven am, seven pm and as many people suspect there
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Speaker 1: is an emergency button in most rideshare vehicles, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our fancy KDKA. Entire incident seems to span
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Speaker 1: less than a few short miles. It's horrible that one
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Speaker 1: of us has gone missing and we have no protection,
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Speaker 1: and now we're worried or are we going to be next?
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Speaker 1: Uber tells me it's working alongside law enforcement, willing to
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Speaker 1: release data like GPS locations, trip information, and billing information
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Speaker 1: for any of the passengers in Specuza's back seat that night.
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Speaker 1: If there was a barrier between me and them so
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Speaker 1: that they can't reach us, it wouldn't even be a concern.
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Speaker 1: That person would have never gotten to Christie's camera. They
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Speaker 1: would have never gotten to Christie Today. Uber tells me
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Speaker 1: that its drivers have access to an emergency button that
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Speaker 1: automatically dispatches a call to nine one one operators. They
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Speaker 1: also have the Share My Ride feature, which allows their
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Speaker 1: friends and family to follow along with their trips throughout
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Speaker 1: the duration of their shift. We don't know yet if
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Speaker 1: she utilized any of these safety features that night. Allegheny
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Speaker 1: County detectives continue to ask for tips, and they want
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Speaker 1: to remind the public that you can call and remain anonymous.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand how does that work? Do you,
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Speaker 1: James Shellnutt? How do you understand that you can Uber
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Speaker 1: keep trick with wherever the vehicle is. So here's what happens.
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Speaker 1: The Uber drivers have an app on their phone Nancy
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Speaker 1: and Uber will actually dispatch them via that app, and
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Speaker 1: those drivers generally have to follow the specific directions that
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Speaker 1: are given to them by Uber on that GPS app.
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Speaker 1: Uber or Uber can then monitor where that driver is
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Speaker 1: at based off of that GPS app. Well, I know
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Speaker 1: it has to work like that because justin Boardman, when
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Speaker 1: I get an Uber or a Left or whatever I'm getting,
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Speaker 1: you can see the driver coming toward you and communicate
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Speaker 1: with the driver. So if we can do that, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that Uber or Left or whoever the rise her
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Speaker 1: company is can say where the vehicle is. Ultimately her
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Speaker 1: car is found. Take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: w PI XTV. This is the stretch of Rosecrest Drive
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Speaker 1: and Monroeville. It's a hilly, winding road that runs between
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Speaker 1: woods on both sides. Detectives say Christie never came home
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Speaker 1: last Thursday night after she was working as an uber
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Speaker 1: driver and gave rides to several people. Two days later,
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Speaker 1: police found her car on Fourth Street and Pitt Karen,
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Speaker 1: Christie's fiance, who was actively giving updates on social media
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Speaker 1: about her disappearance, said her dashkim was removed and her
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Speaker 1: purse was left in her car. Prime Stories with Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace to listen Raymond WPX side the way. That stretch
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Speaker 1: of the road was described as being very curvy and
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Speaker 1: very hilly. Have you seen that stretch of road. I'm
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Speaker 1: very familiar with those back roads around the Monroeville area
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Speaker 1: as being very hilly, and when you would talk about
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Speaker 1: the rural parts of Monroeville, that's where it is. You know.
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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, and James chillnot if the perp did
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Speaker 1: not use the curves and the hills to his benefit
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Speaker 1: to pounce when another car and the distance could not
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Speaker 1: see them. You know, that's actually a great thought, and
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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that, but yet as possible. You know,
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Speaker 1: some of these people they're not just mean, they're also
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Speaker 1: cunning and smart, and they think about this. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know the extent of this person's criminal history, even
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Speaker 1: if they have one. But yeah, they often think about this,
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Speaker 1: and I think that's a grateful one, his quatter possibility
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Speaker 1: and then a turn in the case. And remember, all
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Speaker 1: this time, while everyone is searching for Christinas, her four
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Speaker 1: children are waiting on mom to come home. I mean,
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Speaker 1: think about it, dodtre Angela Arnold. Every single day I
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Speaker 1: pick up the children from school every day. My husband
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Speaker 1: would be glad to, but I don't wanted to. I
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Speaker 1: want to. Now, think about it, dodtre Angie. If I
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Speaker 1: didn't have arranged for David to pick them up, and
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Speaker 1: then he gets the call at five o'clock that the
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Speaker 1: children have been waiting all this time and I never
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Speaker 1: showed up. You know, Nancy, this is the kind of trauma.
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Speaker 1: This will affect these children for the rest of their
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Speaker 1: lives because they're always They're always going to question. They're
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Speaker 1: going to question what they did the last time they
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Speaker 1: saw their mother. They're going to forever question where where
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Speaker 1: she was, and that fear of not knowing where she
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Speaker 1: has been is going to live inside of them. I mean,
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Speaker 1: right there, justin boardman, everyone should know something is wrong.
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Speaker 1: If I am not there on time front and center,
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Speaker 1: everybody knows something's way wrong. This woman goes overnight without
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Speaker 1: checking in. The fiance hears from her at nine pm,
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Speaker 1: then everything goes radio song. That is evidence right there,
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Speaker 1: don't you agree? I do agree that that is evidence
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Speaker 1: right there that something horrible, horrible has happened, that the
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Speaker 1: pattern that was well established has just stopped. You know,
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Speaker 1: that would be a time possibly, although you know, he
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Speaker 1: did have for the small children, so he was probably
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Speaker 1: pretty well grounded in the house to go out then
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Speaker 1: to go out and look and start searching, or even
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Speaker 1: to get on the appolute she was sharing her rides
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Speaker 1: with him to go out and take a look. Now,
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Speaker 1: explain that app if you don't mind. Well, from what
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Speaker 1: I've learned is that they had. Part of the app
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Speaker 1: for Uber is that they can share their location with
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Speaker 1: a loved one for extra security and comfort. That somebody
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Speaker 1: at home, more likely than not, her fiance with nowhere
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Speaker 1: she was at all times and where she was driving
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Speaker 1: at all times. And I would guess they would probably
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Speaker 1: have done that because from what it sounds like is
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Speaker 1: the fiance was worried enough that he's the one who
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Speaker 1: purchased the camera for the vehicle, He's the one that
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Speaker 1: probably installed it to make sure that he was safe,
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Speaker 1: So I'm only assuming that they would have shared location
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Speaker 1: within the app. Yeah. Yeah, As everyone is frantically looking
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Speaker 1: for searching for Christina, her children on Dreya, Drew, Scottie
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Speaker 1: and Tore looking for mommy, the case takes a turn.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to wp x I TV. We just
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Speaker 1: worked to confirm the identity of the body found in
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Speaker 1: Morova was in fact Chrissina Spakuza, the missing Uber driver.
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Speaker 1: And as you said earlier, we did go over to
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Speaker 1: her fiance's house. When we arrived, he was standing outside
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Speaker 1: next to a neighbor's house. We spoke very briefly and
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Speaker 1: he said, right now, he's just asking for privacy at
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Speaker 1: this time. Now, I want to walk everyone through what
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Speaker 1: we do know in this case is there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of moving parts right now. So earlier this afternoon,
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Speaker 1: out approximately twelve pm, Alleghany County Police confirmed that a
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Speaker 1: woman's body was found on a hillside on rose Crush
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Speaker 1: Drive and Moroville. Now on Thursday, social media postings from
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Speaker 1: the family as well as her fiance, began to circlate
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Speaker 1: that a female Uber driver with a Virginia license plates
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Speaker 1: driving a silver Nissan Sentra was missing. Today police located
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Speaker 1: that car fitting the description with that uber sticker, and
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Speaker 1: now medical examiners have confirmed that it is in fact
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Speaker 1: Rosina Spakuza. Straight out to special guests joining us, do
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Speaker 1: Catherine at Maloney, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner of Erie County.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at Nicols City Forensics dot com.
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Speaker 1: Dr Maloney, thank you again for being with us, Doctor Maloney.
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Speaker 1: The body out in the elements for this many days,
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Speaker 1: how will that affect determining the cause of death? So
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Speaker 1: it really depends on what the weather was like and
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Speaker 1: at least I'm actually not too far from Pennsylvania and
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Speaker 1: it has been very cold, a very cold winter indeed,
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Speaker 1: so there's a possibility that her body may have been frozen.
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Speaker 1: There's a possibility there may have been snow on her
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Speaker 1: body as well. If her body was frozen, sometimes you
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Speaker 1: have to wait up to seventy two hours before you
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Speaker 1: can actually perform an autopsy. But the good thing about
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Speaker 1: I guess a body freezing is that then that stops
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Speaker 1: the decomposition process, so it's easier to evaluate for things
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Speaker 1: like injuries. You know, doctor Maloney, I'm so glad that
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Speaker 1: you can be calm, cool, and collected right now because
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Speaker 1: to you, doctor Angie Arnold, Psychiatrists joining us out of Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: All I can think, have you ever been so excited
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Speaker 1: that somebody is coming to see you, maybe one of
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Speaker 1: your children are coming home, that you keep going to
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Speaker 1: the door the window looking out. I mean, I remember
22:22
Speaker 1: when I was a little girl, I would sit at
22:25
Speaker 1: the front window waiting for my mom to get home
22:28
Speaker 1: and just looking and Nancy, I think that's a very
22:33
Speaker 1: familiar feeling to a lot of people. I think that
22:35
Speaker 1: that's something that people can definitely relate to. Yeah, when
22:39
Speaker 1: I'm hearing doctor Kathery Maloney describe finding Christina's body and
22:46
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good thing if it's frozen, and she's
22:49
Speaker 1: absolutely of course she's right. Of course she's right, She's
22:52
Speaker 1: always right. But I keep thinking about the fiance. Did
22:56
Speaker 1: you hear what was said earlier? When we are arrived there,
23:01
Speaker 1: he was standing outside, standing out the yard, waiting, just waiting,
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Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to come tell me that tell him
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Speaker 1: that she's okay, just waiting for something. Probably had his
23:12
Speaker 1: phone in his hand and another phone on the other hand,
23:14
Speaker 1: the house phone on the cell phone or two cell phones,
23:16
Speaker 1: just waiting, waiting for the news that she was okay,
23:21
Speaker 1: And that's not what happened. That's just all I can
23:23
Speaker 1: think about when I'm hearing doctor Maloney describe how it's
23:27
Speaker 1: a good thing her body may have frozen. But you know,
23:31
Speaker 1: but Nancy, that's doctor Maloney's job. Well, I know that.
23:36
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's wrong. I'm saying all this time,
23:40
Speaker 1: he's standing in the yard waiting for her to show up.
23:44
Speaker 1: The children are inside, probably coming in and out looking
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Speaker 1: out the window, waiting for mom, and the whole time
23:50
Speaker 1: she's frozen on the side of a hill. But Nancy,
23:53
Speaker 1: know whatever, No one ever wants to go there right
23:57
Speaker 1: off the bat, do they. Now, that's never anyone's first thought.
24:04
Speaker 1: People have to world in a healthy state of denial
24:08
Speaker 1: when these kinds of things were going on, to allow
24:10
Speaker 1: them to still have hope. So her body is found
24:14
Speaker 1: Alyssa Raymond w p XI. Where is her body found? Exactly?
24:20
Speaker 1: Her body found on Rosecrest Drive in Monroeville, and that
24:24
Speaker 1: is a rural area of Monroeville. They were saying that
24:28
Speaker 1: it was back in the woods, about fifty feet away
24:32
Speaker 1: from the road, and it was over some it was
24:35
Speaker 1: on the other side of shrubs as well as a
24:38
Speaker 1: little creek, and then it was in back in the woods,
24:41
Speaker 1: about fifty feet off of the road and she was
24:44
Speaker 1: laying face down with her COVID masks still on. You know,
24:49
Speaker 1: do you? James Schalnutt twenty seven years Metro major case
24:54
Speaker 1: also detective, former SWAT now lawyer. I don't understand why
24:59
Speaker 1: I took so along. It took like two days to
25:02
Speaker 1: find the car. Why if everybody's got a ride ride
25:05
Speaker 1: share information and ABRA contract where the car is. What
25:09
Speaker 1: took so long? Well, labor contract where the cell phone is.
25:13
Speaker 1: But the app is on the cell phone, and I
25:14
Speaker 1: don't know that the cell phone was with her, and
25:18
Speaker 1: if it was with her, if it was turned on
25:20
Speaker 1: or turned off, you know, unless unless you have a
25:23
Speaker 1: particular app downloaded on your phone, and there are some
25:26
Speaker 1: out there. Then when a phone loses power for through
25:29
Speaker 1: its battery or it's turned off, then it's unable to
25:32
Speaker 1: be tracked unless it has one of those apps on there.
25:34
Speaker 1: So I don't know that the phone was with her
25:37
Speaker 1: or not with her, or if it was still in
25:39
Speaker 1: the car. Well, you're right, take a listen to Megan,
25:43
Speaker 1: Sure kd KA. We now know that Christie Spakuza died
25:48
Speaker 1: from a single gunshot wound. Detectives have not yet made
25:52
Speaker 1: any arrests or named any suspects, but they are describing
25:56
Speaker 1: this investigation as open and active. Someone killed a Turtle
26:00
Speaker 1: Creek mother of four, and now Christie's Specoosa's home looks
26:04
Speaker 1: like a memorial. I just couldn't sleep as something so
26:07
Speaker 1: tragic could happen to a person that was in my
26:10
Speaker 1: home in my neighborhood. Specusa last talk to family members
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Family please for help on social media
26:18
Speaker 1: said she texted when leaving this vape shop along William
26:21
Speaker 1: Penn Highway in Monroeville, saying she planned to make a
26:24
Speaker 1: few trips as an Uber driver. She never returned home
26:27
Speaker 1: that night, and her family reported her missing on Friday.
26:31
Speaker 1: On Saturday morning, police found her car along Fourth Street
26:35
Speaker 1: and Pitcairn. Her purse was still inside, but she was missing,
26:39
Speaker 1: along with her Uber camera. Then just a few hours later,
26:42
Speaker 1: police discovered her body a short distance away in a
26:45
Speaker 1: wooded area along Rosecrest Drive in Monroeville. So, whoever did
26:50
Speaker 1: this thing new enough to take the Uber camera out
26:54
Speaker 1: of the car now that is extremely cunning, very cunning. Indeed,
27:01
Speaker 1: how safe or dangerous is it to take a ride chair?
27:05
Speaker 1: And they're taken every minute in our country? But this
27:10
Speaker 1: is not the first time tragedy has struck in an Uber.
27:15
Speaker 1: Take a listen, or a lift or one of the
27:18
Speaker 1: many many ride chairs there are out there. Take a
27:21
Speaker 1: listen to our cut fifteen. We don't know who's getting
27:25
Speaker 1: earn our cars at all. We don't know the criminal record,
27:27
Speaker 1: We don't know anything. Laurie Wretch has been driving for
27:30
Speaker 1: Uber for seven years. We love doing this job. She's
27:33
Speaker 1: completed more than twelve thousand rides. Genuinely come out here
27:37
Speaker 1: daily and work very hard. A former Yellow cab driver,
27:41
Speaker 1: she was once proud to work for Uber, but now
27:43
Speaker 1: says more must be done to protect workers like her
27:46
Speaker 1: from this. Getting trips that say Z or zero or
27:52
Speaker 1: potato chip, you know, it makes it unvery uncomfortable. Fake
27:56
Speaker 1: profile names and piggyback rides when customers use friends account
28:00
Speaker 1: or two of the scariest things for Uber drivers because
28:02
Speaker 1: they don't know who they're picking up. They're behind us,
28:05
Speaker 1: so we don't know what they're gonna do. On multiple occasions,
28:08
Speaker 1: Lourie says she's been harassed or physically attacked. We need
28:12
Speaker 1: protection out here, you know, and riders should have to
28:15
Speaker 1: show I d thinking about how defenseless she was to
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Speaker 1: Alyssa Raymond joining us wp x I, Christina Specusa was
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Speaker 1: out a mother of four at night driving an aberge job.
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Speaker 1: Did she have a weapon do we know? But there
28:33
Speaker 1: is no indication that she had a weapon on her?
28:36
Speaker 1: And where was her cell phone? Alyssa? Her cell phone
28:39
Speaker 1: we know was always plugged into the car from her
28:43
Speaker 1: cell phone in the charger, because her fiance had said
28:46
Speaker 1: that because of the navigation technology and tracking people and
28:51
Speaker 1: you just you know how quickly your battery dies. Her
28:54
Speaker 1: fiance says, y'all, she always had it plugged in because
28:57
Speaker 1: it died so easily. So it was not found in
29:01
Speaker 1: her car when her car was found in pitt Karen,
29:05
Speaker 1: but someone did find her cell phone along some railroad tracks. Wow,
29:10
Speaker 1: this is one cunning killer, Alyssa Raymond, because the killer
29:16
Speaker 1: takes not only the camera out of the uber, but
29:19
Speaker 1: takes her cell phone and then discards it along railroad tracks.
29:24
Speaker 1: That's why the car couldn't be trucked again. It's not
29:28
Speaker 1: the first time a ride chair or delivery person has
29:32
Speaker 1: been attacked. Take a listen to our cut six A
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Speaker 1: k x ast. It's the name Ryan Munsey Ring a
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Speaker 1: belle wife and mother of three small children. Ryan Graham
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Speaker 1: Monzi was working her Uber Eats delivery job Saturday night
29:47
Speaker 1: when she was murdered. Found in the breezeway of the
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Speaker 1: Northern Cross Apartments in Haltham City. I believe she was
29:53
Speaker 1: delivering food to somebody in that building. The thirty one
29:56
Speaker 1: year old did not make it to the customer's door
29:58
Speaker 1: before she was killed. A motive isn't being made public
30:03
Speaker 1: and more on Ryan. Our cut five A. This is
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Speaker 1: Sergeant Eric Peters speaking. We got a call of a
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Speaker 1: person that was lying in a breezeway that had had
30:14
Speaker 1: obvious signs of trauma. Eric Peters, there's a sergeant with
30:18
Speaker 1: the Holtham City Police Department. On Saturday night, emergency responders
30:22
Speaker 1: pronounced Ryan dead at this complex where she made a delivery.
30:26
Speaker 1: Over the last couple of days, the detectives have been
30:28
Speaker 1: working non stop to try to identify a suspect. Right now,
30:32
Speaker 1: police will only say she suffered obvious signs of trauma. Well,
30:36
Speaker 1: the detectives are kind of holding that close to the
30:38
Speaker 1: vest for investigative purposes. So they don't want the actual
30:41
Speaker 1: cause of death out there yet, so they're using that
30:45
Speaker 1: as an investigative tool at this point. And ironically, exactly
30:51
Speaker 1: one month before Ryan Muee, a mother of three, was
30:56
Speaker 1: murdered delivering Uber eights, another delivery driver shot that dad.
31:02
Speaker 1: And this was in Dallas. Take a listen to our
31:04
Speaker 1: cut seven a k x as almost exactly a month
31:09
Speaker 1: before Munzie's murder. So my first thing was shock, and
31:12
Speaker 1: then my first thought was, oh my god, the community,
31:17
Speaker 1: what a loss. Another delivery driver was shot dead, this
31:21
Speaker 1: time in West Dallas. Timothy Paul Allen was an independent
31:25
Speaker 1: contractor delivering packages for Amazon in his personal car, according
31:30
Speaker 1: to family. Dallas police were called to the twenty four
31:32
Speaker 1: hundred block of Leith Street on December twenty third and
31:36
Speaker 1: found Allen shot and killed in his car. Police say
31:39
Speaker 1: he had made a delivery to the nearby Hampton's at
31:42
Speaker 1: Lake West Apartments before being murdered. A motive is not
31:45
Speaker 1: yet known. His killer is also on the loose Prime
32:02
Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. These drivers, Doctor Angela Arnold, are
32:12
Speaker 1: really so defenseless. I've got stacks and stacks of examples
32:16
Speaker 1: here auber drivers, drivers, pizza delivery, Uber Eights delivery, door dash.
32:23
Speaker 1: They're so defenseless. Very often a ploy is used to
32:29
Speaker 1: lure someone to a fake address, then they're robbed and
32:34
Speaker 1: or shot and or raped. As a matter of fact,
32:37
Speaker 1: take a listen to Richard Nye at w TCHR thirteen
32:40
Speaker 1: hour cut eleven A. Two witnesses say they saw seventeen
32:43
Speaker 1: year old Jalen Billops shoot a Domino's pizza delivery driver
32:47
Speaker 1: just after eleven PM on August thirty. First. Court records
32:51
Speaker 1: say that Billops ordered pizza with a false name to
32:54
Speaker 1: an unoccupied address on sixteenth Street in Lafayette. When Josh
32:58
Speaker 1: Unger's arrived with the delivery, Billips and her boyfriend allegedly
33:01
Speaker 1: tried to rob him. Investigators believe ungers Must shot and
33:05
Speaker 1: killed nineteen year old Alberto Van Meter with a revolver,
33:08
Speaker 1: then Billips shot and killed Ungersma with a nine millimeter handgun.
33:12
Speaker 1: The team faces multiple felony charges, including three counts of
33:16
Speaker 1: murder and armed robbery. The charges hold Billops responsible for
33:20
Speaker 1: Angersma killing her boyfriend. Billips made her initial court appearance
33:24
Speaker 1: by video and told the magistrate, her family plans to
33:27
Speaker 1: hire an attorney. A female attack her gunning down unarmed
33:34
Speaker 1: delivery people. I mean, doctor Angela Arnold. It's like you're
33:38
Speaker 1: putting your life on the line to take one of
33:40
Speaker 1: these jobs, but you are. That's what's so horrible. People
33:44
Speaker 1: think that they can make a little extra money doing
33:46
Speaker 1: something like this, and that means they need a little
33:49
Speaker 1: extra money. And every time they go out they have
33:52
Speaker 1: to be worried about if they're being ambushed, if someone
33:56
Speaker 1: is going to rob them or kill them. I can't
33:59
Speaker 1: imagine the scarier thing to have to go out and
34:01
Speaker 1: do at night to doctor Captain Maloney joined US Deputy
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Speaker 1: Chief Medical Examiner in Erie County. Doctor Maloney, she and
34:11
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Christina's Pecuza died up one bullet wound.
34:17
Speaker 1: How long would she have lived after the shot before
34:21
Speaker 1: she died? But the gunshot wound was apparently to her head,
34:25
Speaker 1: so it entered in the back of the left side
34:27
Speaker 1: of the head and then exited out her right cheek.
34:32
Speaker 1: I imagine her death would have been relatively rapid because
34:35
Speaker 1: of the injuries to the brain. I can only hope,
34:37
Speaker 1: so I don't want to think of her lying face
34:41
Speaker 1: down in the dirt and being shot. If that's where
34:44
Speaker 1: the primary crime scene was, the body could have been
34:48
Speaker 1: dragged there, making it a secondary or even tertiary crime
34:51
Speaker 1: scene that will find out as the investigation goes on. Meanwhile,
34:56
Speaker 1: the news hits the fiance in the family like a
35:00
Speaker 1: of bricks. Take a listen to our cut a Onexi
35:04
Speaker 1: addressing the murder of his fiance, Christie Spekuza, in a
35:08
Speaker 1: statement to Channel eleven, Brandon Marto wrote, I would like
35:11
Speaker 1: to thank the entire community for the NonStop outpouring of prayers,
35:14
Speaker 1: condolences and donations. My entire family and I would not
35:17
Speaker 1: be able to get through this difficult time without support
35:20
Speaker 1: from the family, friends, and wonderful neighbors. Specuza, a mother
35:24
Speaker 1: of four, was found shot to death along Rose Crest
35:27
Speaker 1: Drive in Monroevo Saturday afternoon hours earlier. Her car found
35:30
Speaker 1: in nearby Pitt Karen, her purse still in it, the
35:33
Speaker 1: dash camera missing. Marto says since then he's been contacted
35:36
Speaker 1: by numerous female Uber drivers expressing their condolences and concerns. Quote,
35:42
Speaker 1: we together agree there are insufficient safety measures in place
35:45
Speaker 1: for the drivers and this needs to change, adding I
35:48
Speaker 1: don't want to see this happen to someone else's sister,
35:51
Speaker 1: daughter or wife. Uber needs to protect its drivers more
35:54
Speaker 1: and it starts here with Christie. Then using good old
35:59
Speaker 1: fashion Gumshi detective work, police come up with an idea.
36:06
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at KDKA and our
36:10
Speaker 1: cut six. It is an unusual case with many twists
36:14
Speaker 1: and turns, but detectives believe that they have their guy.
36:18
Speaker 1: They used technology and data like cell phone tracking and
36:22
Speaker 1: rider information from Uber, and they say that that led
36:25
Speaker 1: them directly to the suspect into a key piece of evidence.
36:30
Speaker 1: A twenty two year old man's in jail after police
36:33
Speaker 1: say he ended his Uber ride with a gun pressed
36:36
Speaker 1: to his driver's head. It is unusual, thankfully, doesn't happen
36:40
Speaker 1: that often. More times than not, there is a relationship
36:45
Speaker 1: between the actor and the victim. But detectives say twenty
36:47
Speaker 1: two year old Calvin Crewe didn't know his Uber driver.
36:51
Speaker 1: Thirty eight year old Christie Spakuza, a mother of four
36:54
Speaker 1: from Turtle Creek, and police say when his attempts to
36:57
Speaker 1: steal Ermany didn't work, he life an Amazon driver driving
37:02
Speaker 1: down in a van, had a little bit of elevation
37:05
Speaker 1: to it. Just driving down that roadway, saw saw the
37:09
Speaker 1: body off to the side of fust I believe off
37:12
Speaker 1: the roadway. Her body spotted by an Amazon delivery person
37:19
Speaker 1: lying there on the side of a hill, just thrown
37:25
Speaker 1: out off the side of the road in the freezing weather.
37:31
Speaker 1: And then I want to hear what you think about
37:33
Speaker 1: that shell nut about the way they tracked down the
37:39
Speaker 1: dash cam. Yeah, you know, tracking down the dashcam can
37:42
Speaker 1: be done one of two ways, and it depends on
37:45
Speaker 1: what type of dashcam is in this vehicle. I don't
37:47
Speaker 1: know if that dashcam was a dashcam that was uploaded
37:51
Speaker 1: to a cloud server or if it was self contained.
37:54
Speaker 1: If it's a cloud server, it would be relatively simple
37:57
Speaker 1: to contact the company just hosting this data and in it.
38:01
Speaker 1: But if it is a dash cam that is self contained,
38:05
Speaker 1: dast an issue in and of itself. We learn more
38:09
Speaker 1: about what happened and the last moments of Christina Specusa's life.
38:15
Speaker 1: Listen to our cut eleven WTAATV. According to police, and
38:21
Speaker 1: the moments before Christina Specuza was killed, she was pleading
38:25
Speaker 1: for her life and they say they know this because
38:27
Speaker 1: the dash cam inside her uber was recording and they
38:30
Speaker 1: watched it all play out. Police say the tracking of
38:33
Speaker 1: Calvin Crue began before he got into Christina Specuza's uber
38:37
Speaker 1: here along Britain Avenue in pitt Karen at nine fourteenth Thursday,
38:41
Speaker 1: February tenth. Police say the uber was ordered by Crewe's
38:44
Speaker 1: girlfriend Tanya Mullin at eight fifty three pm and from
38:48
Speaker 1: the second crew stepped inside for the ride to Drsham
38:52
Speaker 1: Street and Penn Hill's. Police say phones were keeping record
38:55
Speaker 1: and Specuza's dash cam was recording during that ride. In
39:00
Speaker 1: to get her, says, Becusa begged for her life. They
39:02
Speaker 1: say the images on her camera show crew holding a
39:06
Speaker 1: gun to her head while she told him come on,
39:09
Speaker 1: I have a family. I'm begging you. I have four kids.
39:13
Speaker 1: Please take that off me. Before they say crew removed
39:16
Speaker 1: the camera. She says, first of all, you've got to
39:22
Speaker 1: be choking, and he says it's a gun. She says,
39:27
Speaker 1: come on, I have a family. His response, I got
39:31
Speaker 1: a family too, now drive Doctor Angela Arnold. She is
39:39
Speaker 1: begging for her life in the video, begging for her
39:44
Speaker 1: a lot, and he still murders her. So he is
39:47
Speaker 1: a cold bloody killerism he Nancy. He has no feeling Nancy.
39:56
Speaker 1: He is a sociopath at dust. I just don't even
40:01
Speaker 1: understand how you can put a gun to a human
40:03
Speaker 1: being's head or anywhere and kill a human being. And
40:08
Speaker 1: this woman is completely deceiptless. He has no feeling Stuessy
40:14
Speaker 1: because Nasy she tells him that she is the mother
40:17
Speaker 1: of four children. He didn't need to kill her, did he?
40:21
Speaker 1: Did you notice, Alyssa Raymond, that he's not the one
40:26
Speaker 1: that called for the uber? Didn't he have his girlfriend
40:28
Speaker 1: do it? Yes? In the criminal complaint, it says that
40:32
Speaker 1: Crewe's girlfriend was the one that called the uber for him,
40:35
Speaker 1: and she wasn't even at the house with him, so
40:39
Speaker 1: this was her address that Crewe was living there because
40:42
Speaker 1: she wasn't there, but she still requested the uber for
40:45
Speaker 1: him to pick him up and pick Karen and take
40:48
Speaker 1: him to Penn Hills, which would be about a twenty
40:50
Speaker 1: minute drive. Well, as far as I'm concerned, she can
40:54
Speaker 1: be charged to with felony murder. Take a listen to
40:58
Speaker 1: our cut. Twelve WT Police say they found the dash
41:03
Speaker 1: cam with the SD card inside near a fence along
41:06
Speaker 1: Dersham Road at what was to be the end of
41:09
Speaker 1: this trip, but they say Spekuza's cell phone was still tracking,
41:13
Speaker 1: and according to investigators, it was at the spot in
41:16
Speaker 1: Monroeville where her body was found an hour after the
41:20
Speaker 1: trip began. Police say Spakuza's phone was later found beneath
41:24
Speaker 1: the Westinghouse Bridge near the railroad tracks and on it.
41:28
Speaker 1: Investigators say several banking and online money transfer apps were open,
41:33
Speaker 1: and according to the complaint, at some point during that night,
41:36
Speaker 1: Crewe's girlfriend Mallin, who they say ordered the uber, text
41:40
Speaker 1: him quote, I am not going to jail if we
41:43
Speaker 1: get caught. Police say that interaction is also now under investigation.
41:49
Speaker 1: I can't speculate what was in her mind or her
41:52
Speaker 1: thought process during those messages, but what I can tell
41:55
Speaker 1: you is that the detectives are going through all the
41:59
Speaker 1: day from all the phones and tried to make those
42:02
Speaker 1: connections and in consultation with the District Attorney's office, quote,
42:07
Speaker 1: I'm not going to jail if we get caught. I'm
42:11
Speaker 1: not going to jail if we get caught. That is
42:15
Speaker 1: why the girlfriend Mullen texts, who we believe to be
42:19
Speaker 1: the triggerman, Crewe. You know what tells me? That tells
42:24
Speaker 1: me that tells me justin Boardman, that she is on
42:27
Speaker 1: the hook for felony murder. The felony being trying to
42:32
Speaker 1: rob Christina's Pecusa through her money transfer apps, or to
42:37
Speaker 1: rob her of whatever money she had on her. That
42:40
Speaker 1: was the plan, and a death occurred. She may not
42:44
Speaker 1: have meant for Specusa to be killed, but she was
42:48
Speaker 1: part of the underlying felony. What do you make of
42:51
Speaker 1: somebody like her, Boardman, You know, absolutely, it makes me sick.
43:00
Speaker 1: She certainly is on the hook for the murder. You
43:03
Speaker 1: darn right, she is on the hook. Catherine Maloney, I
43:07
Speaker 1: gotta ask you a question, doctor Maloney. When you perform
43:11
Speaker 1: these autopsies, it would kill me to try cases and
43:14
Speaker 1: even report on cases when children were involved. But then
43:18
Speaker 1: when I see a mom of four, how do you
43:22
Speaker 1: get that out of your head when you go home,
43:24
Speaker 1: doctor Maloney? Well, usually, you know, forensic pathologists, we have
43:29
Speaker 1: pretty good coping mechanisms. Otherwise we can't do the job.
43:33
Speaker 1: So you think about your own kids, and you know, exercise,
43:38
Speaker 1: eat chocolate, you know, kind of whatever it takes to
43:42
Speaker 1: get your head in the right space. I hear you,
43:44
Speaker 1: what about it, shall Nut? I mean, I want her
43:47
Speaker 1: to go down, Tanya Mullen, both down with the death penalty.
43:53
Speaker 1: Four children shall nut. Yeah, put them under the jail,
43:58
Speaker 1: you know. Unfortunately the jail the system can't give them
44:01
Speaker 1: what they deserve, but they can get the maximum penalty
44:04
Speaker 1: that the justice system can give them. And I'm gonna
44:07
Speaker 1: tell you something, as she's saying, I'm not going to
44:09
Speaker 1: go to jail. If we get caught for this, you
44:11
Speaker 1: have to be in you have to be doing something
44:13
Speaker 1: to get caught for She knew she was doing something wrong.
44:17
Speaker 1: She's as guilty as he is, totally. He already had
44:21
Speaker 1: a firearms violation already. To Elyssa Raymond, what about her?
44:28
Speaker 1: Tanya Mullen, Well, I wanted to add that it was
44:31
Speaker 1: her gun that was used in this case according to
44:35
Speaker 1: this criminal. Wrong with these people? So what are her
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Speaker 1: charges at this time? No charges have been a file.
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Speaker 1: What are we waiting on Christmas? Seriously? Why hasn't she
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Speaker 1: been charged? She's not even in custody, Elyssa my knowledge,
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Speaker 1: not at this time and hasn't been announced. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to jail if we get caught. Her words, and
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Speaker 1: she's steal out walking free. What about him? The devil
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Speaker 1: Calvin Crewe ALYSSA. Yes, even the Allegheny County Jail based
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Speaker 1: in criminal homicide charges, robbery, robbery of a motor vehicle,
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Speaker 1: tampering with evidence because when we talk about the gun,
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Speaker 1: back to the gun, we know that Mullen had purchased it,
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Speaker 1: and she did tell police that when they brought her
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Speaker 1: into the police department on Monday for questioning, and she
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Speaker 1: granted them access to her home to find the gun box,
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Speaker 1: which was also missing, and she did not know where
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Speaker 1: it went. Oh wow, where could it be? All Right?
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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you asked her or her soon to
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Speaker 1: be a criminal defense attorney, they would say that she's
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Speaker 1: not guilty and had nothing to do with this. Neither
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Speaker 1: hadn't been tried or found guilty yet, we wait as
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Speaker 1: justice enfolds, and as we wait, let's just keep those
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Speaker 1: four little children and that fiancee who was planning a wedding,
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Speaker 1: Let's keep them in mind. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off,
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,