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Remembering Keegan: A Father's Fight for Safety in the Towing Industry · Towing News Now

• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the American Toeing Recovering Institute podcast.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: This is the special podcast I want you to know that we do.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Our best because this is your podcast is to promote safety, education, positive public relations and networking within the professional and business minded towing recovery industry.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: I'm the co-host, dj Harrington, better known as the co-doctor, and I'm on it, as always.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: The other co-host of this program, a 40 year towing industry veteran, the founder of American Towing Recovery, a wonderful human being by all means, wes Wilbur Wes.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for bringing this topic to our listeners and getting Mr Spencer here.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, dj.
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  Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate your help and, yes, we are very blessed.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Here we have Kagan Spencer.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: Father Matt on Just put some perspective on everything.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: We just recorded the last session with Travis True telling us about Kagan Spencer, and now we're going to talk to his father, who is brave enough and very humbled by the fact that he here and I talked to him a little bit about that situation.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: I say that situation.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: I think everybody listening knows the Kagan Spencer story.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: If you don't go back to listen to last week's, we're listening this week's.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: What I've already said that one other time, haven't I DJ?
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's true, I'm serious for this episode.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: That's what you need to do.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: I'm also disheartened.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: We still have these situations happening.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: We all have to work together.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: I encourage people to go get the entire video clip from our website that we played in part of last week's podcast and forward it amongst your friends.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: They see NBC News report giving some real world numbers to talk to.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: Our driver death and also have dangerous side of the road is something every American household needs to be informed about.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I just want to introduce our guests.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to introduce them to us and tell us a little bit about Kagan.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: Mr Spencer, Matt, if you would introduce yourself to our podcast audience.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Matt Spencer.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm from a small town called Hastings, michigan.
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: We are smack dab right in the middle of Grand Rapids, battle Creek, lansing and Kalamazoo.
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: We're 45 minutes from just about all those cities.
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: We're a really small, tight knit community here, and I am a second generation toer and Kagan was a third generation toer.
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: I've been in the toing industry for 44 years and yeah, self taught most of it and you know, believe it or not, it was key and that started introducing me to you know rec master and the different training bodies out there.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: He exemplified what an American towman really is.
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: You know, several years he would come to me and go dad, you got to get all these guys and safety apparel.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: You know all the safety vest and you know he really pushed that to me and it wasn't just a question.
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: I melt work, so you know what I mean.
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: I miss him dearly and to have this tragic accident happen has just broken my heart and our family's heart, and to know that he was an advocate for safety and for such a terrible thing to happen.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of having him in a class a little bit over a year ago down at Elkhart when I was 24.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: I was telling him he attended a class that we held there of like million duty and a lot of times getting post coming to like meeting the whole heart is in a heavy duty.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: But he was there and I remember him and for me to remember a student nowadays they stood out a little bit and I don't mean to say that the wrong way, but I've taught over 900 classes.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: So the fact that I remember him.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: He was an exceptional individual and I was broken when I learned about that and about how it happened and the fact that his daughter was with him as well.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's heartbreaking for you as a grandfather.
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know, if you don't mind if I kind of start off with you know, talking about what how Keegan developed, please.
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, my dad started this company in 1980.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: I was 10 years old and he was totally self taught and he was also a volunteer firefighter and we just I just grew up in the, in the servant lifestyle I had.
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: Great assain to me was served the public and the money will come serve them even when they don't deserve to be served.
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: And I kept preaching that to Keegan as he was growing up and Keegan would would race me to the tow truck.
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: We would get a 911 call and I'm like Keegan, it's a 911 and that young man was out the door, had the truck started, waiting for me to get there and he just had that excitement about going on challenging record calls and he just was catapaction for industry and to see that a 25 year old still had that passion was was was amazing to me.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: But you know, keegan, when he was probably 12, my towing business we were, we were just getting started and I had to go away for the night for something and his grandpa, which it, was my stepdad, so it wasn't, wasn't my dad that was in the towing industry he had.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: He had already passed on, but his stepdad or his grandpa, my stepdad, would drive Keegan to a record call and Keegan jumped out of the truck and he walked over to the customer and they said don't mind him, he's here for training.
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: I know what's going on and Keegan was just a short little guy and he was a tiny little kid and I can only imagine what that would look like to a customer.
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: But that was the confidence he had at such a young age and I can remember going on record calls.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: I was the guy just driving the truck.
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: He would jump out, roll the flatbed back, hook up the car but have customers going this.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: You know what he's doing and I'm like, absolutely.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: He's been around it his entire life and the passion he had was second to none and and his at his funeral that's what everybody kept telling me his work, ethic, his demeanor about him.
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: He always had a smile on his face.
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: He's a happy go lucky kid.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: Not not to say he wasn't rough around the edges with some of his personal skills we were, we were working on that but he just was a genuine good young man.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Well, at that age who doesn't have a few personal skills to work on.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: First of all, he's here at.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: That kind of dedication and interest in this age range is almost unheard of nowadays.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you see that quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like it was just an exceptional child you know, you know and we we talked a lot about the hazards out there and not getting complacent.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: Now you know we up towards, we get used to the danger on the side of the road.
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we know it's there.
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: We we kind of shove that in the back of our mind because we are, we're task driven.
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: We got to get this done and we want to move as fast as we can, so we're not in that danger zone.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: But we also know we got to be in that danger zone and you know we talked, you know, often about that and he was aware of the dangers but he had such confidence in himself and what his abilities were that as a father sometimes I got really concerned about that and would stay awake at night.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can imagine.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: I have a son a little bit younger and he's come along.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: I always asked him if he was interested in this business and he wasn't.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: He helps me, works here part-time.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: He's gone and helped do a school or two over the years, on the morning labor capacity, on the teaching capacity, obviously, but I was fine with the fact that his interests lie somewhere else.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: I'm scared for every one of these individuals every day of the week and I know a lot of them and I just.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: It scares the pajamas out of me.
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, one thing that really impressed me about Keegan is his social media presence.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, and I knew the young man was connected because I was down in Florida in February, down in the Florida Keys just off of Key Largo, with a large group of people, and a party in our group was having car problems and they were trying to get a mobile mechanic out there and they just weren't having any luck.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm like look, let me try to find you a toer.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Most toers have a relationship with a garage and you know, I think my kid, I bet you he knows somebody down here that is trustworthy and a trustworthy tow truck operator is going to have a trustworthy shop that they work with.
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: And so I called up to Michigan and I go, keegan, you know anybody down in the Florida Keys that could help us?
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: And he said give me a few minutes, let you know.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: About 15 minutes later a gentleman called me that was in Key Largo, which was about, you know, 15 minutes from us.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: He goes hey, keegan just called me or got him on Messenger or text or whatever he did.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: He needs some help.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Well, that's impressive.
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: I was so in awe that he was that connected in our tow community and then to have his funeral procession that we can't even count how many tow trucks were here.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: We've had anywhere from close to 400 to 550, we really don't know but it took an hour and 40 minutes to park all the tow trucks and we had over 1100 people at his funeral.
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: What 25 years old, 25 year old young men have that kind of presence today?
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, and there's no doubt that there's a whole group of them.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Keegan was part of them, travis that was on a previous interview Michael Lord, I think, jacob Ripley, the whole gang that had had it.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: There's a whole group.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: So that networking at unbelievable levels I've always networked because of my unique position that travel, you know other people and I'm with you and amazing the networks these kids have nowadays is just astounding.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: I've spent time in Florida, I've spent a little time in the keys.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: It's pretty desperate down there for him to have a tow truck there.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Help in 20 minutes, that's outstanding.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: You know, and Keegan, a couple years ago he came to me and he was like dad, we need to be part of the Michigan Towing Association.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I was like brother Keegan, I just can't, I don't have the time, I can't do it, because we get part of an association.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: You know you're going to have to be involved in that and you know it ended up.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: He got me involved and then we had father and some issues and he wanted to go off on his own and do his own thing, which I totally supported.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't really understand the young man, what he was thinking, but I came to terms with it and then thought that he needed to go out on his own and struggle a little bit and figure out his life path.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: But what happened was him introducing me to the Towing Association and the friends that he had networked with.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: I started developing relationships and some of those friendships have grown so deeply because of my son, and for that I'll be forever, ever blessed, and I am so grateful that he helped lead me to the association.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Michigan Towing Association is the oldest Towing Association in the country, also hosted a class for us two weeks ago in Detroit, so we consider Michigan Towing Association friends, the podcast friends of the Institute good, good folks.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I've dealt with them for 30 years now, so it's awesome to hear you're a member as well.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: You know another.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: To go back to our training, you know Keegan was uh Haslopper certified.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: We were.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: We were going down the road of uh cleaning up these access things correctly and that young man that was starting to become a passion for him.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: It was unfortunate that our local law enforcement didn't see the passion as we did and started really bucking us on that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: But he never lost sight of that and um uh, just here again.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I don't mean to be a broken record, but the kid just impressed the heck out of me.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: This impressed me with how he wanted to better himself and better our world.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Um, it's not a heart of gold, but it came to help in the public.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's everything I've heard about the different comments and whatnot.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Um, I I just can't thank you enough for being here to talk to us about it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We'll probably take a quick break.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: We'll have you back for a final segment.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for being here.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: You've been listening to a special edition of American Towing Recovery Institute Broadcast with West Wilburne, dj Harrington, our guest, matt Spencer, the data.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: What I want to talk about and I'm listening to you and Matt we've met many times, but I listen to you and I want to share this with all of our listeners.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: This is the most listened podcast in the towing and recovery industry.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You talked about the presence.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: When you're not present and you have a presence, it's a true presence.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So here, your son has done so much in the industry that his passing is really now a presence because of a lot of these people.
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  Speaker 1: He will be present.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: He'll be present with all of your drivers, men and women of our industry that's going to work the white line and be cautious on what's going on.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Last episode, I'm personally going to send a check to Travis at his dad's company and make the check out to Olivia Tain O-L-I-V-I-A last name K-A-I-M Because if you couldn't tell us a little bit about I know you have two children or had two children, of course and maybe tell us a little bit about the young baby that was with them.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Keegan had a sister, a younger sister.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: She, at a young age, didn't share the same passion as Keegan did with our towing industry, but as she got older she did come in.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: She worked for a while in the business and in the office in the business.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: She is now a mom and a recent mom.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Her young boy is not quite two.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: She's kind of being a at-home mom and a part-time job.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: He's no longer really working in the business but she will be back.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: She just had to get through this spell in her life.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Keegan had a wonderful fiance, olivia, just a good woman.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: She was helping to tame we call it Keegan's roar.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: As a young man he was learning to control his emotions.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: At time he was going to marry Olivia.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: She held his feet to the fire a little bit but he had to do some learning of some issues.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: She was doing it along with Keegan and they were going to get married.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Olivia has a four-year-old boy in a previous relationship and Keegan took on Riker like he was his own.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Then, 16 months ago, they had baby Lenora.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: That little girl is such a spittin' image of Keegan.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: He was starting to tame Keegan and mold him into a special father.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: All the people around Keegan were seeing that and you know Olivia just works part-time in a doctor's office and is a full-time mom and Keegan was the earner.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And this tragedy is just thrown a wrench into what is she going to do?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And we are asking if anyone could be so kind to help this young family out.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Their immediate needs are taken care of, but it's long-term.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You know, whether she decides to go to college to retool herself, to become the earner of the family, she has to be determined.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: But you know, if anyone can find it in their hearts to help this family out, we would absolutely love that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: There is a GoFundMe setup I understand.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: There is a GoFundMe setup, yep, and you know we were planning a huge.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: That's going to be opening day of gun season tomorrow here in Michigan, and then we were planning a big family get-together.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Keegan was going to take Ryker out hunting with him for the first time, and we're still going to carry on that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: We're still all getting together and we're going to start building some new memories here, which I'm really excited for for tomorrow.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And that's awesome, the joy of the spirit to carry on like that and trying things to help positive.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: We're so blessed to be a part of this towing community and it's just not in our local area.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have seen an outreach of tolers all over the country calling us and just offering their condolences and it just it's heartfelt.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: And you know the funeral home director that helped us get through this, scott Daniels.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Daniels funeral home awesome family business.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: He had other funeral homes throughout the country calling him and offering their support.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: How cool is that that us toers got that message out so quick that that was happening.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: You know, scott told me he had never seen that before in his life and that's just a true testament to who we are as toers.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: And I'd like to get a shout out to everybody out there that has posted on their social media page.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Facebook has been just insane with tributes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We got people down in Kentucky, tennessee, that they all got together and did a light up night and moment of silence for Keegan, and just who does that?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any other industry that does that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I don't believe there is, but actually.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do want to let my fellow toers know that I want good to come out of this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: The young man that did strike Keegan is an 18 year old that's just starting his life also and we don't know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: We don't know any of the details, but our hearts and our family go out to him too and in his family, because they're facing a tragedy also, and I guess what the tellers to know that we are going to fight for good and that we are going to use this situation to get the awareness out there that us toers are kind of upset.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: We're not kind of, we're really upset.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: We're tired of reading about our fellow brothers and sisters that are getting killed out there or struck and injured and no true consequences that are happening.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: So what those consequences should be and our instance, I don't know what that's going to be, but we as an industry have got to start standing together and we have got to start making awareness.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And then we also got to start demanding our government bodies start holding them accountable for their actions too and maybe start putting some teeth into legislation that maybe the motoring public will realize that we as tollers are just tired of getting struck and just to start, so I'm not going to interrupt you Can I just add to the point, maybe Absolutely, I thought and again.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I've been tracking these deaths since 2001, when I started my own training program.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: When I started in the industry in the early 1980s, society was just changing its view on drunk driving.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Up until that point, it had been don't drunk drive, wink, wink, it's okay, don't kill nobody, basically.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know about the last part, but it was drunk driving, don't do it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Wink, wink, wink.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: But then they changed the mothers against drunk drivers, changed the whole public perception on drunk driving.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I won't say it overnight, but in a few short years.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: We need the same kind of societal movement and I don't know if it's possible.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Tick, tock and snapchack has ruined everybody's attention span.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's hard to get anybody to pay attention to anything in one 30 seconds.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But it's a societal change that needs to happen.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not just colors, lamps and rares trash.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Referees, company workers, all kinds of groups have losses struck by a muc on the side of the road.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So that's my two cents worth, and I didn't mean to interrupt your thought, I just wanted to add to it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: No, that's perfectly fine, and I've heard this from a few of the tellers that came up to me over the past week.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And what would our country look like if every teller, every mail carrier, every garbage man, every roadside worker just up and didn't go to work?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And it would stop our country.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's the answer, but if that's the extreme measures that all of us need to do to get the lawmakers and the public to start demanding the respect of those roadside workers, maybe that is what we all need to do, and I'm not saying we need to do that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: We've got to look at what options are on the table for us, and that's kind of why I'm on this podcast.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I've never done anything like this.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I don't claim to be a public speaker, but I've got a passion today to raise awareness that we all need to slow down, move over for any roadside worker.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I told this in a news report.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Imagine the chair you're sitting in right now your office chair, your lazy boy chair but put it on the white line on your highway and let a car go by you at 60, 70, 80 miles an hour.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: That's three, three, four feet from you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: It's pretty darn scary and I don't think people realize that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: But just imagine that You're at right now and a car goes flying right by you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: That's what every roadside worker puts up with.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I agree You're preaching as a choir here.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe the timing's now and I hope we can form this into something I will tell you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: A few years ago I tried, when it had a presidential petition, that if you got enough signatures, the White House had to answer and write it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I tried it a couple times and it was hard to get people to participate.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: We got nowhere near the numbers.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe the timing's different now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Although.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of faith in the federal government.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not here reporting that they can solve the problem, but it would be nice to get them on the back thinking about the problem.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I have much more faith that hopefully we have a different administration that can attack these problems.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Well, if we don't ask, it's just not going to be given to us.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I say that to every tower out there that's listening to this Find your voice.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Find if it's your local politician.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I've done it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I reach out to my local House of Representatives and just let them know that I'm the grief of the father.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Here's my name.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: This is what happened.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be working with the Michigan Towing Association and we're going to be coming in front of you.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Find your voice.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Just one, reach one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: It's as simple as that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Talk to one person, because you don't know how that person's connected to somebody.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: That's connected to somebody.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: That's connected to somebody.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: If we don't do it, if we don't do it today, we're going to have numbers.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Well, we've already had number 35.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Keegan was number 34, struck and killed in the line of duty.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: We've already had number 35.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: There's going to be a number 36 and a number 37 and then, come January 1st Guess what?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: We're going to have number one.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: We're going to have number two.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: At some point we have to stand up.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Well said, 1,000, كفل next week.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being a podcast guest.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: We certainly appreciate it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I would like you to contact information or anything like that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: If anybody wants to reach out to me, my email is Toman M-A-N-T-O-O-F-O-R-E-G-M-L-D-O-N-E.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Well, again, we can't thank you enough.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: We'll be praying for you and your family, kagan's family as well.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: We'll be working this auction hard.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: We'll try to come up with some other thoughts to help with that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Dj, can you leave us with some comforting words?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Matt, thank you so much.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: What I want to do is remind all our listeners if you ever want to talk to somebody from the institute, just go online wwwamtowricom ororg the phone number 910-74-7-9000.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: After listening to Mr Spencer today, I hope you search your heart, if you go to your knees and pray to your God, that maybe your state association could do a garage sale or do some kind of a function and send the proceeds and you can just dial 910-74-7-9000 and let us know and the team at American Towing Recovery Institute, let the team there know what you're doing and let us get the word out for you so that we can help you.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Matt, I said you're right, buddy, you are a blessing and we're going to have a present even when he is not present.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Have I waited up to the go fund me for her, though you know it's just in her name?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Would you know anything about that?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't organize that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: No worries, I'm just trying to get all I can for you.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: We advertise this on Facebook.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: We'll put the link to that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Go fund me.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: My wife says when we advertise it on Facebook we'll find the link and put it on there for her.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's out there.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: We'll get it, no worries.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you, matt.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You've got my number.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: If I can help you in any way, please call.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I appreciate what you guys are doing for our industry and letting me come on today.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You're welcome and we get my prayers.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you Appreciate it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: And Wes, I appreciate you and I really look forward to meeting you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever met, but Travis, too, speaks so highly of you and I've really leaned on that man and his grip within industry leaders is very impressive to me for such a young man.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait to meet you someday.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, thank you, gentlemen.