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Transfers · United We Scan

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Welcome back, everybody. Episode 145, not going to be a
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very long episode tonight, but we've had some requests.
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So we're going to touch in on how mutual transfers work for
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regular carriers and how we decided we'll go ahead and start
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the day night off with how an RCA can transfer from one office
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to another. How was your week, Josh?
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My week was pretty good. We changed our start times
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starting this past Saturday at 7:00 AM for one zone of the city
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carriers and all the world routes.
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And let me tell you, getting up and out of the house and hour
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plus where is not fun. Getting done about an hour early
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is nice though. You know?
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How was your week? My week was good.
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Sorry. I'm stuffing my face with food
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too. I'm like, that's what happens
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when you're you do your route and then you're do multitasking
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all the time. But my week was pretty good.
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There's nothing really too memorable.
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I was off last Thursday because my, my, my son got an award at
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school. So that was fun.
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But other than that, it wasn't too bad.
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How was your week, Kristen? Oh, this past week I thought it
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was Christmas again. It was a heavy week for me, but
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I got through it Monday and Tuesday.
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Actually this week we're much better than last week to a
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point. Still a little a little heavy
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though. But you know, it is what it is
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and we push through it. And I'm out of town today and
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tomorrow for some training. I can't elaborate on it, but it
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is something that I've wanted to do for a while and I'll know if
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I'll actually get to do it tomorrow by the end of the day.
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So and then the four. We wish you luck.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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And then the four hour drive home and then.
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Yeah, yeah. And then I have to work Friday
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morning. So yeah, that's going to be a
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rough one because it'll be. Well, I worked Tuesday and then
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drove the four hours down here. So I checked into my hotel at
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9:30 on Tuesday night. So it's, yeah, Friday.
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I'm not looking forward to it. You know this is what it is
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we'll push through, but other than that it hasn't been too bad
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been going pretty decent nothing spectacular area exciting per
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SE. So but if y'all are familiar you
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have the app or you get on the website.
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You do know that the new contract is in print form, flip
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book form on the PDF, and from what I've seen on the push
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notifications, the union is sending a copy out to every
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union member. Look for that.
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Everybody, everybody will have a printed version of the contract.
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So I think that's pretty awesome.
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So watch your mailboxes for that here in the future, not so far
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off. It is a green cover this time.
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Yes, yes. So I, I really think that's nice
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that they sent out the whole contract list everybody.
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Oh really? Last time too.
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I have yeah, I have mine like in my my drawer and I have my name
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wrote all big on it. Oh yeah, that's right, because
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they were the purple cover, wasn't it?
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The blue is blue. Blue, maybe the purple one was
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the one before that. I know I had one of them at my
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case. I just don't remember which one
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it is. So, yeah, that you're right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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All right. So we're going to start off with
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the quick and easy way an RCA can transfer from one office to
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another. I have done it.
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So I can tell you it's pretty, pretty easy.
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It's not difficult at all. It's covered in the contract
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under Article 30.2 point F, which is Reus A .1.
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So reassignment transferred to another office, a substitute
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rule carrier associate or a rule carrier relief employee who has
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completed the probationary period, which is now 100 is 90
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work days or 180 calendar days as opposed to the one full year.
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So once the relief employee has completed the probationary
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period and then submits, a written request for reassignment
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may be reassigned from one office to another provided A
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vacancy exists in the leave replacement ranks in the office
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to which reassignment is requested.
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A vacancy exists if the office is less than the total number of
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routes in that office of the total number of leave
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replacements assigned to the office is less than a total
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number of routes in the office. In addition, a leave replacement
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vacancy exists if the only route in the office is an auxiliary
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route and there's no assigned leave replacement or assigned
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backup leave replacement. Such reassignment shall be
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considered as an in service placement.
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So basically if you're an RCA and you want to transfer to a
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different office that has a different postmaster and you go,
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you talk to them or you see that they have a outside posting for
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an RCA. I mean, that's how I knew there
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was an opening in the office I was looking to go to.
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We called management, we got in touch with the postmaster, she
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wanted to meet me, we set up a date and time, I went over
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there, we talked, blah, blah, blah.
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And then I just submitted. I know you can find some forms
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floating around on the interwebs and I think there might be 1
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under the Stewart reference guide.
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Don't quote me on that though. And otherwise I know you can
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find forms or you can just have a sheet of paper dated, get it
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round dated by a clerk saying your intentions to, you know,
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your RCA. So, so your EIN number and you
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put in your attention to transfer to such and such office
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from such and such office. You submit that into the
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incoming management. Make a copy for yourself, make a
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copy for your steward. Doesn't hurt to make a copy for
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your office too. It's always the receiving
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postmaster that's going to start the paperwork.
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Your outgoing postmaster, once they get it, they can hold you
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up to 30 days. Now, mine in my case was happy
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to get rid of me as soon as she could.
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So mine was actually 21 days. It was the middle of the pay.
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It was towards middle of the pay period.
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When I submitted the request, she had me finish out the pay
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period work one more pay period, and then I was out the door and
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started the very next day, the newest pay period in the new
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office. Pretty simple.
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I remember walking into that office because my old office was
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an Academy site. And so, you know, I've seen
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people, I walk in there and I had two Rcas instantly that
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recognized me from going to Academy at the office I worked
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at once. Like, aren't you at the wrong
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office? I'm like, no, I'm here now
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because I remember him because he had actually stopped to talk
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to me while I was casing up mail on the route I was on that day
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when they did a walkthrough with the class.
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So that was actually pretty cool.
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But yeah, so one thing is as an RCA, if you transfer offices,
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you do go to the bottom of the office seniority list.
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It doesn't. You're not starting over in
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time, in time of service, probationary, yeah, or
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probationary, you go to the bottom of the office seniority
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list. So basically any RCA that was
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there ahead of you has more seniority over you.
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However, if let's say though you transfer to an office that has a
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bunch of Rcas that have only been there for a couple months
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and you've been an RCA of a year or more.
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I'm not putting it for PTF bidding.
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I'm just saying for regular and a route opens up to bid on, you
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have that year end to bid. On a regular route, you can bid
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and then no other RCA is eligible to bid and you would
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leapfrog over them and go career first.
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So there is that perk to it if you transfer to an office.
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However, if you have other Rcas that have been there longer
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enough to be able to bid, they will.
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And even if you have more years of service and you do lose that
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office seniority. So if you've got an RCA that's
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been there two years, you've got four years in, you transfer, a
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route comes up, forbid they'll be able to outbid you.
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Plain and simple, because it is the office seniority, the only
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way to leapfrog that is if no other RCA was eligible to bid I.
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Wouldn't say that, presuming they bid correctly.
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Correct. I would also add with, with all
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of it too, you know, each person has their own different
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reasoning for wanting as RCA's wanting to go to another office,
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but just be mindful of losing the seniority.
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And sometimes, you know, there's, there's you may be in a
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smaller office and you're wanting to go to a larger office
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because you, you think you might go career quicker.
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Just be weary and just do your research about the office that
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you're trying to get to. And you know, maybe you can
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reach out to your district representative steward to find
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out information about that office, talking with that
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postmaster. I would also ask how long is it
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averaging for people to go regular in that office?
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Because I've seen where people have the grass is greener in
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another office and thinking that they were going to go regular
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quicker than they would have if they would have just stayed and
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then they ended up having to wait like another year.
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So it just, it just all depends upon the circumstances for each
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of the offices. So just do your research.
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And why you may be transferring, I mean, if you're trying to
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transfer into a better environment, I mean, that's one
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thing. If you're transferring because
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you're moving, you know, that it it, then that might not be
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relevant on where you're going to be in the seniority list when
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it comes, you know, to be able to bid.
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For me, it was a personal decision based off relationship
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and moving. I wasn't going to drive 120
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miles one way to, you know. And so, yeah, so after I
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transferred out over the next couple years, I mean, it still
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took me 6 years after I transferred.
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No, not six years, 5 1/2 years after I transferred to go full
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time where I saw several people that were behind me in seniority
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at my old office go full time before I did.
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So, you know, that's you know, but again, like I said, I
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wasn't. Driving the Evans glow of life.
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It is, it is, you know, I wasn't transferring for that chance to
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go full time quicker now in my office that I transferred to the
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one I'm currently in went full time in.
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We did have an RCA several years ago who did transfer to a
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neighboring office because they did have a route that was going
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to go up for bed and they did have no, did not have any
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eligible RCA's to bed. And he just so happened to live
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in the same town like around the corner from this office.
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So he had it worked out to where he was able to transfer in, was
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on the payroll prior to that route going up forbid and was
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able to bid and go regular on that route within, you know, a
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couple months of transferring. So that was, you know, that's
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another decision that he had made to do that and he was in
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the middle of the pack and seniority in our office.
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One of the neighboring offices, which is a lot smaller than
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where I'm at, was extremely desperate at one point in time
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and we had a bunch of people RC as transfer over and I thought
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about it transferring down there, but then you know it.
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Also they were going through a construction boom at that point,
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so filling regular would have been probably quicker or
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comparable time. And after thinking about it, I'm
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like, I'm already driving almost 30 miles one way to the station
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I'm at. This is going to be another 5-10
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miles down the road and I'll be stuck in that building once I go
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regular there. You know, there is no spot, you
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know, the ability to trick to bid to a route in a different
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building. So I opted not to.
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In the long run, Yeah. Well, and it just depends upon
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the circumstances in your under the umbrella of 1 postmaster.
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If you're, if your city has multiple stations, you know,
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you're, if you're a sub for under 1 postmaster, you could be
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utilized other places there, but there's some that are just yeah,
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like it's just one, one building for the city.
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The other thing to kind of slowly start moving it towards
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the regulars being able to make the mutual transfer of regulars
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is PTFS are not not able to do a mutual transfer.
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The PTF is assigned to the office that they won the award
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in, and at one point my office actually was bleeding out RCA's
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wanting to jump ship and go to different neighboring cities,
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and so they posted a bunch of PTF positions to try and retain
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them. So that's an option that
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management could try and do to help with retention.
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But so that's the good bad of that.
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If you are an RCA and or a PTF, you know, and you're looking
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and, or, and regulars too, I would, before we get into the
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regular mutual transfer part, there's a lot of district
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postings that get posted all over.
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That's all the time. I guess it kind of depends upon
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the area that you're in. My area, there's like a district
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posting, I feel like every month like PTF positions, vacant
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routes, you name it. And so if you are having the
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itch to move somewhere else or life circumstances are changing
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or no matter what it is, you have that ability to look at
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those postings and you could bid on one of those postings.
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Now I will also add, if you bid, you need to make sure that you
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are ready and willing to go if you win the award.
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Because if you do win the award, the only other option you have
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is to quit, which sucks, but so take that with some caution
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there. But that is also another option
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that we have as Rd. carriers. I wish we had a national one
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where like they'll say that. I know we've, I think you guys
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have talked about this before where maybe this district?
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I had put in a resolution under the previous contract
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negotiations a couple years ago that literally had outlined of A
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and I'm going to resubmit it this year.
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I'm going to tweak it up a little bit and resubmit it since
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we're under. Contract.
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And yeah, basically it was the in house posting, the district
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posting back to the in house for those out of probation and then
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usually it will bounce back out to district again and then it
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will can get posted to the public at that point.
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Yeah, prior to that occurring, I had to submitted a resolution
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for a national wide posting bidding position.
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I mean it was I had it outlined date wise, extended it out just
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a little bit, highlighted to where any moving expenses were
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upon the the carrier themselves. They would have so many days.
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I mean I was pretty detailed right into the watch.
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And like I said, I'm going to go and just double read that and
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tweak where I need to resubmit again this year to get it back
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on the table. But yeah, I would love to see an
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an actual established nationwide posting.
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I have heard it's happened in the past, but it's very rare.
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And that way, you know, I know that would it could possibly
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help people that are looking to that can't get a mutual if it
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just happens with with the amount of routes I know that
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have been bouncing back and forth between the office and
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district on a continuous basis. I mean, something like that
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would definitely. Stop the bleeding of what's
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going on. And you got people who are
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already trained and ready to go and are ready to to go travel.
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Yeah. I would, yeah.
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The only thing I would say cautionary in regards to whether
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it be PTF or regular district wide bid is find out the reason
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why can't they fill that route. It could be as it was, they
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don't have the RCA's with enough seniority to bid on it, Yeah.
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Or it's a, or it also could be that it's a art, an office where
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they just start bleeding people dry, You know, you just never
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know the circumstances. But I mean, a lot of the ones
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that I've seen and I, I, it's changes off of what I see.
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But a lot of it is because the RCA's are don't have enough
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timing to bid. And sometimes it'll go bounce
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district and then go back to the office and then they're good.
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And I think now that they change that probationary, but I think
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that's helped with like the PTF posting specifically.
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So there's that, But so mutual transfers for regulars and I'm
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going to read or do you want to read it, Josh, that language.
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Either or. It's only two paragraphs in a
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sentence. Yeah, I'll let you read it. 3
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paragraphs, All right, it's in Article 12, which is Principles
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of Seniority Posting and Reassignment .5 which is Rule
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carrier reassignments dot a general reassignment .3 and 4
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which says regular rule carriers of different post offices may
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affect a mutual exchange of offices, provided rural carriers
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and installation heads involved have signed a mutual exchange
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request form. Once the form is signed, the
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mutual exchange will be considered final and binding and
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can only be cancelled if all parties agree.
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If such an exchange occurs, each rule carrier will be assigned to
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the residual vacancy at the office to which reassignment is
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in accordance with Article 12.3 dot C, .2 dot B.
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That's 123C as in Cat 2B as in Bravo Section 4.
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And mutual exchange between regular rule carriers in the
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same post office or between a rule carrier and a member of
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another craft is prohibited. That is the contractual language
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on that do. You want to read the other part
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too? Which part?
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There's another section that has it too.
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If you have it up. I do so it is it is 12.3 dot A
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.1 dot D and it is when rural carriers of different post
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offices agree upon a mutual exchange of offices and if all
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installation heads involved approve the position currently
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occupied and to be vacated by each rule carrier will be posted
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forbid within each of the respective offices.
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Mutual exchanges may not be approved in an office to which a
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rule carrier has retreat rights or to an office that has excess
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rule carriers. So let's say me and Josh wanted
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to do a mutual exchange. Then there is a form and like me
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and him have, have communicated about this and I, you know, like
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let's say like I'm selling my house or I have my leases up,
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whatever it may be. Make sure that you have your
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ducks in a row I should say. And you're, you know, all your
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business and whatever you need to do so that we when, when this
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happens that you're ready to go. You'll take what's called a
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mutual exchange request form, which is on the NRLCA website.
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And I think some of the managers also have this form and it's the
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following. Regular rule carriers request a
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mutual exchange of their respective post offices in
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accordance with Article 12.5 dot A .3.
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And then the one section of it will be rule carrier A.
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So I'd fill that out and then rule carrier B would be where
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you're transferring to, or like in this case, it would be Josh's
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office. And then it says on there.
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The signatures on this form signify the understanding of
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each individual that each regular carrier involved intends
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to be reassigned and work at the carrier at the other carrier's
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office. Neither rule carrier intends to
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retire, resign or leave the rule craft in lieu of transferring
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and being employed at the other office.
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This mutual exchange will be considered final and binding
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with both carriers and both installation heads involved have
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signed this form. It may only be cancelled if all
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parties agree the purpose of both routes for regular rule
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carriers in each installation. I'm sorry.
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The postings of both routes for regular rule carriers in each
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installation will occur within a reasonable time after completion
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of this form within within in accordance with article 12.3 dot
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A .1 dot D And then it has lines for office A and then the rule
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carrier and the date office a postmaster or the like.
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The installation had your acting postmaster and then their date.
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And then same thing goes for like Josh would have his Josh
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would sign it, his postmaster would sign it.
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And then if the mutual exchange includes more than two carriers,
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use a second form to record the additional carriers and
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postmasters. And so then you could do like
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ABC and D like so let's say it's a four way swap, which is crazy,
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which but it's happened. I know of a six way that
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happened. I was going to say the craziest
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1 was a six that I've heard too. Yeah.
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So then in that case they would use 4 forms, but just make sure
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use caution in this. One of the things if if you are
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somebody who's interested in a mutual transfer, typically what
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happens is a long time ago, I know they used to just publish
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like a bunch of them in the in the NRLCA newspaper.
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So one advantage to actually you being a union member is that in
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the back of the magazine that you get from them that it has
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like people who are interested in doing mutual transfers across
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the entire country. Some states also other state
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newsletters sometimes have it in there.
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But the the most common that I have seen is that there's like a
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Facebook group call for like rural mutual transfers.
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And that's typically where a majority of them that I've seen
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happen. It's also kind of a word of
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mouth. Some people meet at different
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conventions, like area conferences and even the
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National Convention, and then people do mutual transfers from
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that. It's just a matter of having the
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communication and seeking out that mutual transfer.
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One of the oh, and then another less common thing that I've seen
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is there's also like a Discord server for it.
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So if if you're very well much interested in it, there is
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different avenues for you to to try and find that mutual
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transfer. The other thing, Oh yeah.
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Oh, and other people I think have reached out to like state
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union presidents or other members in different states to
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see if if there's anybody that they know of that are trying to
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get to a different location. One of the biggest
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misconceptions that happens with, with surrounding a mutual
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transfer is that people think that you're guaranteed to get
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the the route that that person you're transferring with is
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leaving. And that's not the case.
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So based off of the language that me and Josh read, the route
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goes up forbid, and anybody in the office can bid on it,
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including yourself. But what's going to happen is
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you're essentially going to get whatever the residual vacancy is
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at the end of that posting. When you do a mutual transfer,
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you retain your years of service, you retain your step,
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whichever table you're on, your pet, your, that level of the
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pay, like whatever step step that you're at.
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But you do lose your seniority in that office.
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You go down to the bottom of the of the seniority list.
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So like if, and that affects, you know, you, if you submit
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leave or you know, I've seen people who have had 20 years of
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service who have mutually transferred into my office and I
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have, I, I've, I've only been a regular for, for eight years and
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what is it 8 or 9 years now? Dang.
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And I had more seniority than them because I've been in, I've
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only been in my own office. So just be weary of that.
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There's some people who will post or they will put an ad for
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a mutual transfer and they make it sound like, oh, my route is
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so great. This is what you're going to
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get. So just make sure you look into
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that. Do your research of that office.
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The office that you might be trying to do the mutual exchange
28:51
with has all POV routes and you don't have a POV, so you need to
28:57
make sure that you're ready in case of that situation.
29:01
Or a lot of the ones I've seen that were not great were the
29:06
office is mostly government vehicles, but they have maybe
29:10
like one or two POV routes that nobody wants to be on anymore.
29:15
And the person doing the mutual transfer, that's what they'll
29:18
get. So just being mindful of that,
29:25
trying to think of what else. The advantage I wouldn't say the
29:32
pros and cons to with the way our mutual transfer process
29:35
works is the pros are you can have as many people as it takes
29:40
to get you to where you need to go.
29:43
So for example, use the three of us.
29:45
I want to end up in Michigan, but Kristen wants to go to
29:49
Colorado because she wants to ski and meow's just tired of the
29:56
mountainous cold, snow wet and wants to come go to the South.
30:03
Well, the more. Which is fine as long as all
30:07
three of us agree and then all three of our postmasters or
30:12
installation heads agree to accept each of us.
30:16
So the more people involved, the greater the chance of something
30:19
going wrong is. Yeah.
30:23
The one regular I had, let's say the one regular I had, he did a,
30:28
someone from my office wanted to go to upstate New York and which
30:33
is where he was from. So he took that transfer, the
30:36
one-on-one to heat to Charlotte then.
30:40
And the reasoning for that that he wanted was his wife was from
30:46
the middle of Ohio and he figured it'd be a lot easier to
30:49
get a trans get transfer to Ohio from North Carolina than it is
30:55
than it would be from upstate New York.
30:57
And he was the one that actually had the the six way transfer.
31:01
And it was one person held them up because the postmaster, the
31:06
receiving postmaster of one of the carrier she had she had
31:11
gotten sick and had used a lot of sick leave in the last year
31:15
and said, you know, wouldn't sign off on it.
31:19
Said you show me 12 months with good attendance and I'll approve
31:24
it so one. Held up everybody else.
31:28
Right. What were you going to say,
31:29
Kristen? I was going to say, yeah, so
31:31
it's when when you got to realize when you do a as we were
31:35
saying, when you're doing a mutual transfer, you're not
31:38
transferring routes, you're transferring offices.
31:41
Then it happened that you end up transfer, you know, trading out
31:44
routes. It very well could happen if
31:47
nobody else in the offices bid on those routes when you know
31:51
when it went up forbid. But in general, if it's a route
31:54
that the person is transferring off of that's, you know, another
31:59
carrier in the office has been eyeballing and would prefer that
32:03
route, well, they're going to bid on it and you're going to
32:05
get stuck with what's left. Just like when you're in RCA and
32:09
a position opens up in the office to go regular and you bid
32:13
all, you're going to get whatever's left.
32:16
If there's a shuffle of carriers or.
32:19
Yeah. And the the the the biggest
32:22
reason that I've seen that a mutual transfer was denied is
32:29
attendance. And so I would just good advice
32:34
I guess for it, but take this with what you will you do you.
32:38
I know life happens is I would caution, you know, if you're
32:46
transferring with somebody who is calling in non-stop, you
32:50
know, in the installation heads and postmasters are going to
32:54
look at different things in each employee's file.
32:59
If they if they're smart about it, I should say some of them
33:03
just sign off it just it just said it's dependent upon that
33:07
and you have the ability to file a grievance that I'm not going
33:11
to ever say and not, but I don't know if it would be a successful
33:15
grievance in that regard. But if it was something with
33:19
FMLA or there's different circumstances that might change
33:23
that. But just be weary that the
33:26
postmasters or installation heads could hold it up like they
33:31
did in the scenario that Josh was.
33:33
Saying, and that's that was the best case scenario in that
33:37
situation where the the postmaster said, show me 12
33:42
months of good attendance. Some postmasters, I'm not taking
33:47
on that liability period, end of discussion.
33:50
And then you're back to square 1 to try and find someone else to
33:53
fill in that hole. Yeah, it's kind of it's
33:56
frustrating. And I've, I've seen it where,
33:58
where somebody had done a mutual transfer and then she was trying
34:03
to get somewhere else and they, they denied it.
34:08
The the the receiving office was like, no, I'm not gonna take
34:14
that on. Right.
34:17
I would say the in regards to with with the mutual transfers
34:20
and the posting of the routes. Unfortunately, regards of your
34:25
seniority and tenure as an RCA, if there is an incoming transfer
34:32
from a mutual transfer, the Rcas will not be converted because
34:37
that that person that regular transferring in is taking the
34:41
residual spot. Yeah, I know that's kind of a
34:44
misconception that ends up happening is that some of the
34:47
Rcas get really hopeful in that scenario.
34:49
And it's like, no, they're doing a mutual transfer.
34:53
Well, they they may not know it in advance that the reason the
34:58
forbid is because of. Yeah, very true.
35:00
And then bid and they think it's they're all hopeful that they're
35:04
going to go regular and it's like, no, this is because of a a
35:08
mutual transfer. But but yeah, good, good word of
35:12
thumb with it. Just do your research in about
35:15
that office as a whole. There was another guy who was
35:19
trying to transfer here from Florida a while ago, and at that
35:26
time when he was trying to do that, my office had.
35:30
A. 28 hour H route, not ox H route.
35:37
And he was very worried that if he bid or if he did the mutual
35:43
transfer and came here that he was going to end it up end up
35:47
with a 28 hour age. So.
35:52
I wouldn't be worried about that too, yeah.
35:54
As I said, yeah, that's a valid worry.
35:57
Yeah. So he did not end up doing the
36:00
mutual transfer because of that. And granted, now we don't have
36:03
that 28 hour age, but you know that that whole office that you
36:07
might be wanting to mutually transfer to might be just all H
36:10
routes or it might be all over burden routes.
36:15
You know, you just, it just depends upon the circumstances
36:19
of it. And you know, is it hasn't just
36:25
been AI shouldn't say it shouldn't be a not a vacant
36:29
route, but you know, did the regular who got that route?
36:34
Did they just bid to it and none of the RX scans were done?
36:38
You know, there's different. Do your research to protect
36:43
yourself, I should say, so that you're making a conscious
36:48
decision. And before you take that leap to
36:53
change, change your life, you know?
36:56
But I would say even you know with the RC as I would still get
37:00
in the habit of bidding, just you're in the habit of how to do
37:04
it. So that way when it is your turn
37:06
to go regular, you are going to bid correctly and cover your
37:10
bases. And then once you excuse me,
37:14
because I was always as an RCA, I was always told go regular,
37:18
then find your home, meaning make sure you become regular and
37:24
then find the route that you want and you know, and bid over
37:27
to the route if you want. And then you know, you got to
37:30
remember when you're bidding as a regular, you only want to bid
37:33
on the ones that you do want. You don't want to bid on
37:37
everything like you did at the RCA to become regular.
37:41
Yeah. All right, guys.
37:43
Anything else to add into the transfers?
37:46
That I can think of. Yeah, I don't, I don't think so.
37:49
I think it's yeah. Like I, I've, I've said it, I
37:53
just want to reiterate it. Yeah.
37:54
Just be cautious and do your research on it.
37:57
And just so that you know that you did your due diligence and
38:04
you can, you know, figure out your life and, and, and not just
38:10
get screwed over. I guess so.
38:13
I. But it's a good benefit that we
38:15
have, I think. I think so too, for those that
38:19
want or need to take advantage of it.
38:22
Yeah, I would say if it's something that you're
38:25
considering and actually go through the process, I wish you
38:28
luck in the process and happiness in your new home.
38:35
We will hear of a ten way mutual transfer.
38:38
Oh Lord, that. 'D be instinct.
38:41
That. Would be crazy that would be.
38:44
Crazy. I'm just thinking of the
38:46
paperwork nightmare that would be, yeah.
38:50
Yeah, the six way is pretty crazy by itself.
38:53
Oh, it is, it is. I've heard of threes and fours,
38:57
but man, the six way is. I would love to not even, I'm
39:03
not even worried about the paperwork, but if you can get 10
39:06
postmasters to sign off on it, I would love to hear start to
39:11
finish who went from where to where.
39:13
Yeah, all for one person to get where they need to go.
39:18
Yeah. Or we have a couple of people.
39:21
To get where they want to go but all right guys, I think we'll
39:26
just not do a full wind down. This is this is more of the
39:31
excuse me, I don't mean to yawn in the middle of the week due to
39:35
you know, Sunday was just Sunday for a lot of us.
39:39
Oh, but next Monday is MLK day. Yes.
39:46
And so we will we'll record on Sunday as usual.
39:50
It'll probably be a little bit a little bit longer episode since
39:54
we don't have to be up Monday and be a lot easier to pull out
39:58
a little bit of a longer episode.
39:59
But we didn't want to fully skip this week.
40:01
So we did our tried to cover that request for mutual
40:05
transfers through in the RCA transfers in there.
40:08
Why not? And yeah, we'll call it a night
40:11
for tonight, guys. How's that sound?
40:14
Yeah, that sounds good. All right, so y'all, stay safe,
40:18
stay hydrated, don't get overwhelmed, all that good stuff
40:23
and we'll be back next week. Bye.