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#22 | Ledswards · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_03: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_03: It's UCLAD Hernandez here.
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SPEAKER_03: In this podcast episode, we had the pleasure of having Led's words.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh dude is a phenomenal musician, uh, down-to-earth dude, smart dude.
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SPEAKER_03: Talks talks a little bit about uh his industry and what he's up to and uh some about his personality, some some good stuff, some some drops some he also dropped some wisdom uh regarding the industry that he's in.
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SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, so is this something you're interested in?
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SPEAKER_03: Stay tuned to the podcast.
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SPEAKER_03: Like a rapper or hip hop, what do you call yourself?
0:48
SPEAKER_02: So, so that's crazy how you said that.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: So I have crossed over, I've been doing this rapping forever, that's what I'm known for.
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SPEAKER_02: But I crossed over, man.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm a fucking rock star, nothing less than that now.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: I do indie rock music, man, and my own little twist of it.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's why I think that this is really creating a new persona of who I am because people really haven't seen this creative side of me.
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SPEAKER_02: But really, I've been doing music like this, I just never really shared it to the fans because I've been so caught up of just giving them what they wanted.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I'm confident to give them what I want them to hear.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: That's cool, bro.
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SPEAKER_02: That's very interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so welcome to the show, man.
1:27
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate you being here.
1:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh, definitely appreciate you having me, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you having me, man.
1:32
SPEAKER_03: Real talk, Corpus Christie.
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SPEAKER_03: Stand up, Corpus Christie, bro.
1:35
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah, we gotta represent, bro.
1:37
SPEAKER_03: We gotta represent.
1:37
SPEAKER_03: So you're forgetting.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, definitely, definitely, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Definitely, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: You already know, man.
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SPEAKER_02: We here, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Stand up.
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SPEAKER_02: You already know, man.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what's up.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what hey.
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SPEAKER_02: Which HD, which H B do you shop at, bro?
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SPEAKER_02: Which come on, you know we don't talk to him with this shit, man.
1:53
SPEAKER_02: You know we don't talk with this shit, man.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: You don't need anything from all the way from air to the north, man.
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SPEAKER_02: This is what we're doing right here in the area.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, man.
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SPEAKER_02: We yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how we know what somebody from be like, what h b you go to?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're a solid one man.
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SPEAKER_01: No, we we ain't on we we we ain't on S P I D with it, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what's up, bro.
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SPEAKER_03: Cool.
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SPEAKER_03: So so you said indie, uh, so for me, like I heard some of your stuff on your Instagram, man.
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SPEAKER_03: It sounds like uh, I don't know, hip-hop, I don't know what to call it, bro.
2:25
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm used to metal music and and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I I really don't get too much into to the to the scene that you're in, which which is which is why I want to have you on, you know what I mean?
2:34
SPEAKER_03: Spread some of that, some of the word about what you do, you know what I mean?
2:37
SPEAKER_03: Because so can you explain to some to the people that may not know what you do, what you do?
2:41
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so definitely.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: So what I do, um basically, I would like to start the quick the question and answer it like this.
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SPEAKER_02: So, what I do cannot be duplicated.
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SPEAKER_02: For one, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: That's that's my area of direction when I make this type of music now.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that I don't want to make anything that somebody could go in the booth and do the same thing after me.
3:00
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm creating um all my foundation off of popular 80s songs, straight to the Miami Vice vibe, you know, giving them gems.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: I have um a lot, a lot of my um inspiring moments that I've created off of me making this new music is definitely like taming poll.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I listen to um a lot of like you know, RB and old school artists to really give me that void of really, you know, becoming the rock star that I want to be.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: Like I don't want to just be half-stepping out here.
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SPEAKER_02: I want people to know that I'm genuine whenever I'm giving them this creativity.
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SPEAKER_02: So the process of me making this is uh I found my my sound with um one of my good friends, um Molly Walk Production.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure everybody in the city knows uh Molly stand the fuck up.
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SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
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SPEAKER_02: Um he helped me create the sound.
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SPEAKER_02: I gave him the idea of me crossing over, and we um been working on this sound for about a good year now.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh we confidently um created uh a new album, it's called Summer's Ending, which is out right now, doing wonderful.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, appreciate everybody streaming that.
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SPEAKER_02: Y'all keep doing that, and um, it really opened up a lot of doors now to a lot of big artists that are looking at me right now.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm definitely on the road of um getting to where I'm going.
4:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm not at the bus stop no more for sure.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, bro, man, that's a good way to say it.
4:25
SPEAKER_03: Wow, that's so crazy! So, so did you feel like you had to change up your style?
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SPEAKER_03: And was your style like everybody else's per se?
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SPEAKER_02: Um, no, I've never sounded like anybody, so I could never say that I switched it up because I felt like uh I was dumbing myself down.
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SPEAKER_02: I've always given my best whenever I do create music, but whenever I was in the process of making the chapter two of free rap, one of my biggest albums that I've ever released, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Um it is a full rap rap album.
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SPEAKER_02: It's no no indie rock or nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was in the process of making the chapter two to that, and it just hit me like a train wreck, man.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just like I couldn't even like write write a song or nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: It just like my inner tuition was just telling me, like, nah, man, go towards the indie rock vibe.
5:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, and because really what I did was this whenever I make music, I I call it um a practice run, right?
5:20
SPEAKER_02: So when I'm creating music, I'll take about an hour or two, and I have certain songs where I just have them in my head, and it and it kind of you know, I use them for my creativity to get me in the mode to start writing.
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SPEAKER_02: So I said, you know what, instead of me creating a new song, how about I just record the songs that I practice every day that I do for fun and just my luck, that's exactly what the fuck the fans wanted.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow, bro, wow, yeah, and yeah, so everything I'm doing is just like just being myself, and it's crazy because I mean, if I would have known that, I would have been doing this years ago.
5:55
SPEAKER_03: Damn, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So now so I would like to tell anybody that's watching this just be your fucking self, and I promise you the world is yours.
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SPEAKER_02: I promise you, never try to duplicate a sound, create your own lane, and I promise you you won't get where you're going.
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SPEAKER_02: If it takes a year, 10 years, whatever, man, just as long as you don't waste no time, yeah, bro.
6:16
SPEAKER_03: And it seems like when you do that, when we decide to do that, do our own people hate, bro.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: People just they're it's just natural, you know what I mean?
6:25
SPEAKER_03: Like, what the heck, dude?
6:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to do me, and you're over here like freaking downer, Debbie Downer, you know what I mean?
6:32
SPEAKER_03: How do you do that type of stuff?
6:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you know, everybody knows, you know, Corpus Christi is a crab in a bucket type of environment whenever you're actually doing something uh positive or something that uh people just don't understand, but with that same same type of concept, you gotta understand it like this once once you get the love and the acceptance here in Corpus Christi, it's forever.
6:58
SPEAKER_02: Other cities they'll love you while you just hot.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: Why do you think that a lot of artists that lose their momentum come to Corpus and still get paid a big bag?
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SPEAKER_02: Old washed up rappers that people don't listen to no more.
7:10
SPEAKER_02: Because once people accept you in corpus, they will love you forever.
7:14
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
7:15
SPEAKER_02: You'll be 80 years old and you'll still sell out a show in corpus because it's you know that's just how we are here.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like it's not easy to gain that type of you know, love in corpus.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta really earn it out here.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta really earn that shit.
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SPEAKER_02: And once you get it, it's yours forever.
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SPEAKER_02: So I don't look at it like people hating, I look at it like you know, I ain't doing enough.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I just ain't doing enough.
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SPEAKER_02: So just my love, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: I never had to fit in.
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SPEAKER_02: So I've always had that genuine love for people because I've always been myself.
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SPEAKER_02: I never wanted to follow people around or do what they did or just you know, rap about things I'm not doing.
7:54
SPEAKER_02: People listen to my music and they and they're and they're vulnerable to the experience because I'm giving them my pain and turning it to passion.
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SPEAKER_02: So I mean, nothing less than that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_03: When you put passion into your music, into your words, like people feel it, people know it, and people can relate.
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SPEAKER_03: Definitely, man.
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SPEAKER_03: That's that's art right there, man.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure, for sure.
8:13
SPEAKER_02: So that's definitely you know my motivation with how I look at the situation on that question that you ask.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, it would be nice to know that all your hard work pays off, but it's just not that easy in corpus.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's a small city, and we all went to school with each other, our kids go to school with each other.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of hard to accept somebody that you've been knowing your whole life, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: But once, but once you get there, once it's undeniable, you know, the hate turns to love, and it's gonna be 10 times more.
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SPEAKER_02: I promise you.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, the hate is always gonna beat up, you know, and really hate is just uh is just a virtue of love.
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SPEAKER_02: People only hate you because they love you, you know what I'm saying?
8:51
SPEAKER_02: They really love you, they just they just don't know how to express it, so they like fuck it, he probably forgot me.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't remember me.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: Fuck that name, you know.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: I hate him.
8:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.
8:59
SPEAKER_03: That's a real good way to look at it, man.
9:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I never thought of it like that, man.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, that's that's just really what it is, you know.
9:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that's cool, man.
9:07
SPEAKER_03: So so have you always have you always been into art or music, or I mean, how did this all start for like how did it start from you?
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SPEAKER_03: Like at the very beginning, how'd you get into it?
9:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so basically, I've always um I've always been a distinct type of character of being around anybody that was doing music in the city.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh, at very ever since I was at a very young age, um, I've always been the type of person that people love to see in ciphers or you know, rapping, just that type of person, like, yo, it's Letty Lad, it's Lad, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm known for that.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: But um to tell you the truth, I would I can't even remember the last time that I uh that I wasn't into doing what I'm doing right now.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: Like this has always been the road that I've walked since I could remember.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just that now, like right now, I feel like I am reaching my pinnacle of crossing over to the reality of the dream.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: Like now it's not just on some like I'm uh I be rapping or people know me.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, now I'm not looking for acceptance anymore.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm just I'm just telling y'all that yeah, I'm a fucking rock star.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: And everybody else believes it.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: I hope y'all do because it's it's gonna really fucking suck whenever reality slaps them in the face.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to be that type of artist that be on some I told you, so I just want people to understand that I do it for corpus, any and every day.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, at the end of the day, I'm gonna be here regardless.
10:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, for doing this.
10:28
SPEAKER_03: Yes, man.
10:29
SPEAKER_03: That's it's like you have a purpose.
10:31
SPEAKER_03: You there you there's a purpose behind what you're doing.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a strong purpose, you know.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: For all the people that I lost, you know, definitely, you know, um, a lot of um trial and tribulation, traumatic, you know, situations, people that I'll never see again.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: It really gives me the motivation to not stop and keep this drive of me, you know, giving this passion like I do.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: So I never want to say I I do this myself.
10:59
SPEAKER_02: Everything is initiated off of what I've I I experience and and and the love I receive of doing it.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I owe it all to the people that love me.
11:09
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir, yes, sir.
11:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, people in surroundings, man, that's cool.
11:12
SPEAKER_03: So I so what how do you how do you um so the me the the I guess the music make not so much music, but I'm interested in like people how people get to rhyming, how they get to writing stuff down, you know what I mean?
11:24
SPEAKER_03: Like how what's your process in doing that?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, how do you get inspiration to find new words?
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SPEAKER_03: Or I mean, you know what I mean?
11:30
SPEAKER_03: What what do you think about one of that whenever I'm talking about that?
11:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so um that's so crazy how you said that.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: So with me, well, anybody that really knows me or I brought to the studio, they call me like uh like the Kanye West of Corpus, like the Quincy Jones, because you know Let where he I'm the type of artist that I will tell artists if you're really popping in the city to come to my studio session, you know, and just see me work, or maybe we could create some things.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: And when they come, they're so flabbergastic about how I'm creating music that it's like their first time experiencing a real artist create something.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: And and instead of me like flexing on them or trying to prove I'm better, I I bring them into the creativity, you know.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: So I've I've I've always been that type of artist that like feed off of other people's energy, but for the most part, I don't write shit down.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't write nothing.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: I used to whenever I used to want to be the type of rapper that was like I had the bars, you know, I wanted to make sure I had the immaculate bars when I when I spit, I wanted to make sure that it was some shit nobody heard.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: But now it's like I'm literally going in the booth, I'm doing a hook, and I'm just riding the whole goddamn song with Eric.
12:40
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
12:41
SPEAKER_02: And we're just creating a beautiful ass experience.
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SPEAKER_02: And and the reason why I don't write it is because whenever I make the final product, I want to prove to myself that I didn't force it, that it wasn't premeditated, it was all a feeling, meaning that it can't be duplicated.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, nobody could go in and be like, I'm gonna make some shit like that.
12:59
SPEAKER_02: No, you can't because I ain't even I ain't even write this shit down.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't even know how I make you know, so that's why I like to do it like that.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: Has it has it always been like that for you?
13:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, had you had you had to overcome some part of yourself to to get to that point, or you know what I'm saying?
13:17
SPEAKER_03: Because because sometimes when whenever we get to that point, we feel like this is it, you know what I mean?
13:22
SPEAKER_03: And then when we try to show people this is it, they don't see the stuff that happened till that point.
13:27
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes, yes.
13:29
SPEAKER_02: It is a uh frustrating uh experience to know that that the eyes only want to see the finished product, the beauty is how it was made.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: So I definitely understand that, but that just kind of comes with the territory of being a creator, they're never gonna really, you know, want that side of you until the materialistic things start coming towards you.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: Now people want to know how you got it.
13:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like how did you know?
13:53
SPEAKER_02: Now they want to know, now they want to learn the process of the road you walk.
13:57
SPEAKER_02: But people only gonna want to know that once they see the finished product, and once that happens, you know it's gonna be fucking almost impossible to have a conversation with somebody like that.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're not gonna wanna you know that.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: And people say you're gonna be changing up.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he act like he brand new, he not, but it's like when you had when you had a chance, you didn't want to know.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: But now I'm so fucking busy, I don't even have time to answer my mom's phone call.
14:21
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm changing on you now, you know.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: I ain't like that, man.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: It's just you know, I know where I'm going, you didn't.
14:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
14:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just like different.
14:31
SPEAKER_03: I I I I can see that, bro.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: Because for me, like in my life, it's more like finance financial-wise.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: Like, I I I I I'm into finances a lot, investing and stuff like that, and then taking care of my money and not owing a lot of debt, you know what I mean.
14:44
SPEAKER_03: And then I feel like you know what I mean.
14:46
SPEAKER_03: Like for some people, it's like they're down here, but uh and the level that I'm at is like, dude, well, if you understand this, then you can do this, this, and this.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: And it's difficult to explain to them because they're still in that where they're at, you know what I mean?
14:59
SPEAKER_03: I understand that, yeah, yes, for sure, man.
15:02
SPEAKER_02: I that's that's 100% agreed on my on my end.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, I definitely feel what you're saying, and like I said, it is a frustrating experience, but I promise you, if you get caught up in the feeling of being accepted, then you'll never reach a pinnacle of who you could be as an artist or a person, you know, just as a person, you know.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: If you're so worried about like being accepted, me, I'm never worried about being being accepted from nobody, you know.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: I I just I just never have.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: I just always knew that as long as I'm able to show the people that I love my new music and they're able to understand the message that I'm getting, that was enough for me.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: It's just a blessing that you know that everybody else fucking loves it too, right?
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Man, you know what I'm saying?
15:44
SPEAKER_02: It's just the humbleness of like I appreciate it, y'all.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
15:48
SPEAKER_02: Because to me, you know, I made it whenever my mama says she she's happy.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: When she says I hey, so I'm proud, you hey, I made it in my mind.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: Money then ain't gonna define my success or the position that people want me to be in.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, as long as the people that I feel like I owe said that I'm they're proud of me, then I fucking made it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, man.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: And so do you do you feel like you well, obviously you put that in your music, and do you you don't do it intentionally, right?
16:54
SPEAKER_03: It's like this just part of you.
16:56
SPEAKER_03: This is how it comes out.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, nothing is forced, you know.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, like I said, I'll never rap about anything that I haven't done or I haven't experienced.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: So that that's why a lot of I don't I don't make um a lot of um irritating ass flat, you know, fabrication stories, you know, about shit that I've never done.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: That's why all my music is is very uh passionate storytelling, you know what I'm saying?
17:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, damn, I feel like I'm like watching a movie hearing your song, you know.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: It's like I'm writing a script to a movie, you know, like like that's how it always been.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: So I never really kind of forced it.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, and in the times that I did, people never heard those songs.
17:38
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, it's like it never happened, it's like it never happened, like and it's sometimes the best stuff is like unseen, man.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: It's so crazy.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: I've I have a lot of beautiful music that people haven't heard.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: I just feel like it's just not that time, you know, just not that time for them to feel that feeling.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Because with me, it's all about a feeling, you know.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: Once you really engage with uh uh uh your fans or your listeners about their feelings, then that's whenever you know which time it is to drop.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: Because some people they just want to dance, you know, they want to dance, have fun, they don't want to hear, you know, about your pain and passion, you know.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: But some days, you know, or sometimes during during what whatever season of the year it is, people don't want to feel you know happy and alive, they want to be able to reflect on themselves, you know, and and and feel like they have a soundtrack to their to their pain and passion.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: So I'm giving them every type of feeling, yeah, bro.
18:32
SPEAKER_03: And it seems like it seems like just talking to you, it's not just about making the music, but it seems like you have a plan, bro.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: It seems like you're you see what I'm saying, like you gotta have a plan, and and people don't see the plan, and but it seems like you you're like, dude, this is this is what's gonna happen.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: We got this next lined up, and this will gonna happen, you know what I mean?
18:50
SPEAKER_03: And it's not just one thing, you got several things going at one time.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: Is that right?
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, you got to, you got to, because you know, it's not how it is whenever I was young, you know, where you felt like all you had to do was be a good artist, and people were gonna just, you know, I'm saying, hey, I can get you here.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, you had AR managers.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: Now it's like you could do all this shit yourself.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: All you gotta do is just wake up and apply that pressure.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Now, me, I feel like I'm not doing enough.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: You know, I always feel like that, but I know I'm not because you know, um, it's just I haven't really got in tune with the type of social media of the whole type of music scene.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: But once I really start engaging in that, then I start to realize that wow, like this shit could happen overnight.
19:34
SPEAKER_04: Right.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Like this, like you, I could really I could really sign a two million dollar deal overnight if I do this shit right.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: It's not like a like a fantasy or you know, this shit is reality.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Because think about all these young artists that that that have made it.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, 80% of artists that that haven't even been making music their whole life get signed.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: 80% of artists that only been rapping for about three to five years get signed.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: It's the rappers that have been rapping their whole life that will never be at the round table.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: They will never that doesn't make no sense to me.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: That I don't know that because it's it's it's it's that because being being a good artist is just 10.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: You know, if you have somebody that's that knows the music business and only the 10 is the talent, they're gonna make it before you.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna make it before you, and undeniably, wow, they're gonna make it before you, and you could be a hundred times better than them, right?
20:37
SPEAKER_02: It's just that they understand the business of it, they know how to invest, they know how to put their money in the right places, they know whenever to engage with the right people.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: They're doing they're doing meetings, they're doing lunch meetings, they're you know, you see them taking trips, you know, meeting people, networking.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: You you're just caught up of just making music.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: You got a hundred songs, and you're dropping them on SoundCloud.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: Wow, bro.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's it.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, type shit, dude.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: It's almost like a skill that we need to have.
21:05
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we need business skills, bro.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: Like in every area, you know, it doesn't have to be just what the area that you're in, but for dude, I wish we would have learned this when we were young, you know what I'm saying?
21:15
SPEAKER_03: Like, I wish we would have learned these principles when we're younger, it would just help.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: For one, I could better all my nephews and all my sons, and you know, anybody that's close to me, my my my cousin, my nieces, anybody that's around me, I teach them these type of uh qualities of of you know, of taking pride of learning what you don't know.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: Because if you just depend on what you feel like you deserve out here, because it was like that with me like for a long time.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Like I just knew that I deserved to be where I wanted, but that wasn't enough.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: It was like just because I deserve it don't mean it was mine.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: I gotta claim that shit.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
21:53
SPEAKER_02: You gotta work for it, and yeah, and that's exactly what I've been doing.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not what I feel like I deserve, it's what I feel.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm gonna go get.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome, man.
22:03
SPEAKER_03: That's good.
22:03
SPEAKER_03: So hey, so what's next?
22:05
SPEAKER_03: What what's what's what's happening next for you?
22:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so uh so next we do have um, I am dropping a new album.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: I will be dropping it um on the 4th of July.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: It's called Winter's Coming.
22:18
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be the sequel of Summer's Ending of the Crossover of the Indie Rock persona that I'm bringing to stamp in concrete the rock star that I'm becoming.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: Nice, nice.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: So how do you so how do you do how you gonna dig how do you distribute your your or where can people find it?
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh it's gonna it's gonna be on all digital streaming platforms.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Any you you could listen to this on anything that you listen to music on, or the only thing it won't be available on is hard copies.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay, okay.
22:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, it seems like the industry is that is going exactly that way, yeah.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: Like who buys a CD and puts it in their CD player, yeah.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, and if you do, you're like fucking 55 and shit.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just not like it's not gonna waste my money pressing up 500,000 copies and shit, or a thousand copies and selling them for 10 a pop.
23:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, no, I'm not doing shit like that.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna let these streams run up and I'm gonna wait for my check to come in.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: Come on, man.
23:15
SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, I was gonna ask you.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: So, how do you so how do you get do you get paid through the streams or how yes, yeah?
23:20
SPEAKER_03: So how does the income come in?
23:22
SPEAKER_02: So, really, this I want to give a gem to everybody that's anybody that's listening to this week.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: So, therefore, this is what I learned from from the people that surround me.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: There is many ways that you can get paid for your music, and most of them it's not even gonna be your streams.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: People don't even know that you know, well, people that do know it, that's why you see them going crazy on on the gram and shit.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Man, you can get paid for doing reels.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: You know that, right?
23:46
SPEAKER_02: You know that if you drop, you know that Instagram will pay you for doing reels if you reach a certain pinnacle of people that's looking at them.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: So you could drop a song, do a couple of reels on there, and get paid like your music is streaming just for doing videos for Instagram.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: That's that has nothing to do with your music.
24:04
SPEAKER_02: Then you're you're you're you're on a third-party um um management, meaning uh you United Masters or Distro Kids, something like that, right?
24:14
SPEAKER_02: It's giving you 100% royalties of your music.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: So therefore, whenever you're dropping it on all these digital sites, Deezer, fucking Apple Music, all that, each one of these are paying you individually for the stream that you got.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: Now, some people they only engage of only promoting their music on Spotify or only promoting their music on Apple Music because they're only getting one algorithm of a payment on whenever it comes to how the music's being streamed.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: But if they have the creativity to have the same drive of dropping it on each site and promoting yourself like that, then it'll be like getting paid from 10 different people the same check.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: So say if you only got paid$100 from your stream, right?
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Say if you are$200 from your stream, but if but if you applied that pressure on each digital platform, then you it's it'll be like 10 or 15 people paying you two, three hundred dollars per stream, you know what I'm saying?
25:09
SPEAKER_02: So there's ways to jump the stream, it's just that you just gotta be consistent, consistent.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Visuals is a very big play of it.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
25:17
SPEAKER_02: Getting a cameraman on your team is like having a manager, it's it's it's it's necessary, it's like there's no other way around it.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: So, how so how does uh how how do shows come into play with that with with with the Inscrum stream?
25:31
SPEAKER_03: Or I mean, where do shows come into play?
25:33
SPEAKER_03: Or how do you I mean what do you think about it?
25:35
SPEAKER_02: So when it comes to shows, when it comes to shows, it gets indecisive about how much are you willing to do when it comes to your opportunity of it?
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Because um, a lot of people they don't want to do anything free.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants to go to a show and give out their beautiful talent for free.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Now you have to understand the meaning of free though, whenever you're doing something.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: Does free mean that you only want money or are you doing something for an opportunity?
26:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, so if you're doing a show for somebody to create an opportunity to expand you to get a show that pay you five or ten grand, then that that wasn't doing a show for free.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: That was doing a show for an opportunity, you know.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: But people don't think like that.
26:15
SPEAKER_02: They like, nah, I'm not showing up unless you pay me.
26:17
SPEAKER_02: So therefore, you didn't do that show to get you the opportunity to land you the bag.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, come on, you know what I'm saying?
26:24
SPEAKER_02: So it's more of like a marketing tactic, like you gotta be humble, you gotta be humble with this shit, you know.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: If you if you're in if you just thinking about the money, then when it comes, then that's all you're gonna get.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: And if that's cool, then that's cool.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: But I ain't doing this shit just for no money.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm this this shit is forever, right?
26:44
SPEAKER_02: This shit is forever, you know what I'm saying?
26:46
SPEAKER_02: The money, the everything else that comes with it, you know what I'm saying?
26:49
SPEAKER_02: But whenever I go, I want to make sure I left something here a sense of a legacy, something that my kids could come back to and listen to, or people after about 10, 20 years, they could come back and listen to my music.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't want to be the person that just ran up a bag and just motherfucking, you know, just nah, man.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: It's more to life than that, man.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: I really feel that I want to embrace the fact of being, you know, a real fucking real superstar with this shit, man.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: A real like Corpus Christie's own rock star.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm becoming.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: We never had our own rock star, right?
27:20
SPEAKER_02: Maybe a country tejano, even a rapper, but never a rock star, a black rock star with dreads from the fucking body or come on, man.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Stop stop playing with me, man.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I mean, like, all I need is the yes, and I'm gonna give it to y'all.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: All I need is be like, yes, Lever's our rock star.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's uh book me at the show.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm giving them, I'm giving it all to them.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, for real, man.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: I need to be a concrete street epitheater, you know what I'm saying?
27:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, I need 20,000 people, you know.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, let's go, let's do it.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, man.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome, bro.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: Damn, that's good.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: It's good to meet you, man.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, you too, man.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: Likewise, likewise, man.
28:02
SPEAKER_03: Likewise, man.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: I saw I was trying to research, I was like, man, I'm having no time.
28:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I see.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: I was just looking at your Instagram and stuff, and uh, yeah, you got some uh Corpus Christi bracket.
28:12
SPEAKER_03: Are you still doing are you still doing that?
28:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh what is it, ballot or something?
28:16
SPEAKER_02: It was it was more of like I didn't really engage in that so much.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't I'm not really in the competition thing.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm not one of those those type of artists, but I did um understand the mission and I did want to show my support with what they were trying to shine the light on the city, so I did you know show my love with that, but yeah, I'm not a competition artist, I do I do my thing.
28:37
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
28:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's awesome, man.
28:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, is there anything else you want to share?
28:43
SPEAKER_02: Um yes, uh, y'all keep streaming, summer's ending.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate everybody that's been showing love.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you having me on the podcast for sure.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
28:54
SPEAKER_02: Um I want to give a shout out to all to shit to the whole corpus Christie, especially D Green Films, uh Murph Cam, you know, the whole Laura Gang Camp.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
29:05
SPEAKER_02: Um 2338, um, shoe gems, um, everybody, man, it's really just going crazy in the city, man.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, I see y'all and I love it, you know what I'm saying?
29:16
SPEAKER_02: And I just I really I'm I really just appreciate just being the artist that that I could be, man.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: And I'll never forget it.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir, man.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Man, that's some good shout-out, dude.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate you.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: And I'll leave links in the description for anything you want to put in there so you guys can find it.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, so man, I appreciate you coming on, bro.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: If man, if anything else, uh choose, just just hit us up, man.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: Hey, if you know anybody else, yeah, and anybody's listening.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: If you if you guys are in you know in the same industry or whatever, hit me up.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: You guys can get on the podcast.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we need to get D green films on here in Murph Cam.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: They need to be next.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: Definitely, definitely.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: If you guys are listening, you you guys need to hit me up so we get you all.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure they're listening right now.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: They need y'all need to be on the podcast next.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: So we yeah, we can keep definitely, definitely.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: I know they're listening.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, man.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: That's one thing about corpus that everybody looking.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: You might not have a lot of likes, but they seen.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: Trust me, they seen me, you know what I'm saying?
30:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, for sure, bro.
30:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: So my H E B, I shop over here, uh Alameda, Alameda H E B.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm just putting that up Alameda one.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: But I see, I see, yeah, yeah.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: You already know, man.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: You if when I'm in corpus, you're gonna find me in the hood.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't like that bougie shit.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: I like to be where I started off because it creates that type of uh environment, you know.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: It really keeps me hungry.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, for real, man.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, anywhere without central air and heat is my is my prime element.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
30:44
SPEAKER_02: I like to feel the passion, you know.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: That's good, man.
30:47
SPEAKER_03: Because I want I I want people, different people from different areas of the city to come on, bro, and and not just just for people, you know what I'm saying?
30:55
SPEAKER_03: Just so we can have a platform, you know what I'm saying?
30:58
SPEAKER_03: Like definitely, definitely like yourself, you know what I mean.
31:01
SPEAKER_03: I had somebody on there was you know, different different walk of life, you know what I mean.
31:06
SPEAKER_03: I want I even want to try to get like a homeless dude on here, like me, just maybe just carry my phone around, have an interview with him, and just yeah, put it on the podcast, you know what I mean?
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Because no, exactly, man.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, everybody deserves a line light at least for 15 minutes.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man, and and for people to know, like, hey, this guy lives in our city, bro.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
31:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey, this this guy he lives in your city, he lives right over there under the bridge.
31:28
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
31:28
SPEAKER_03: So uh love, man.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people don't think like that.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: Nah, they don't we don't keep that momentum, you're gonna get to where you're going, man.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: When things are genuine, that's when genuine success happens.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: And I'm thinking about legacy myself, bro.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: I got two kids, yes.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, my wife, and uh, you know, I'm definitely thinking about them when I'm gone.
31:47
SPEAKER_03: So for sure.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: Longevity, man.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: Longevity, yes, sir.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, if nothing else, man.
31:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh, let's words.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: Let's words, man.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate you having me, man.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: Corpus Christmas, stand up, man.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: You already know the hottest podcast in the city.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: Don't play.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: Y'all better get on it before it's too late.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Come on now.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Come on now.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: Yesterday's price and today's price.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Stop playing, y'all.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Stop playing.
32:10
SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
32:11
SPEAKER_03: We'll see you later.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh man.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay, bye.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: All right, y'all.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: That was Led's words.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate y'all listening to this podcast.
32:19
SPEAKER_03: If you want to find him, check out the links in the description.
32:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh, that's where you can find him.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: Also, if you want to support this podcast or if you want to represent the city, we have uh merch store, uh, corpuscristials.com, where you can rep the city with the uh merch that we got there.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, so appreciate y'all listening.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Have a good one.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Bye.