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- 0:08Good afternoon, it's Friday the 29th of August 2025, just after
- 0:121:00. Welcome to UK Column News.
- 0:13I'm your host Mike Rumson and my Co host this week in the studio
- 0:17is Patrick Hennigsen. Welcome to the programme,
- 0:18Patrick. To be with you, Mike.
- 0:20Now, later in the programme, I'm going to be reporting on TV in
- 0:22Washington. More on censorship and the
- 0:25announcement of a chicken pox vaccine.
- 0:27Patrick who's going to be covering the Iran nuclear issue
- 0:30and Trumps attempts to make burning the US flag illegal?
- 0:34But we're going to begin today with Russias attacks on Kiev.
- 0:38Patrick. Well, the last 24 hours of
- 0:41Russia has hit Ukraine incredibly hard.
- 0:44We'll take a look at this story and this is really going to
- 0:48shape really how things are playing out with the
- 0:50negotiations with Russia, with Europe, with Trump as well.
- 0:55So Russia's pounding targets in Kiev, and we're going to take a
- 0:58look at this. This is the second biggest
- 1:00aerial attack since the start of the conflict.
- 1:03This is what they're saying here.
- 1:04Let's look at what the Ukrainian reaction is to this missile and
- 1:08drone attack. Ukraine claims Russia's
- 1:10unleashed 629 strikes comprising of 598 drones and 31 missiles.
- 1:18Russia MOD saying it's struck military industrial complex
- 1:22enterprises and military air bases in Ukraine using high
- 1:26precision weapons. And here is the thing that I
- 1:31find much interesting here, Mike, is that Russia's now
- 1:33flying is, according to allies of NATO, Russia's flying
- 1:37surveillance drones over routes the US and the Europeans are
- 1:41using to ship military supplies via Germany and probably via
- 1:45Poland as well, and the other countries on the other side of
- 1:49this new Iron Curtain. So that's pretty interesting.
- 1:53Absolutely. Now that very much the narrative
- 1:55is that Russia was attacking civilian targets.
- 1:57I mean, what's your thoughts on that claimed by the Europeans
- 2:00and the United States? Well, it's coming first from
- 2:02Zelensky himself. Let's let's look at Zelensky's
- 2:05reaction actually on that, on that note, Mike, here he is
- 2:09obviously he is moved quickly to change costumes from Washington.
- 2:13He's in his war green here, his best war greens.
- 2:16This is the acting president. We're going to call him the
- 2:18acting president because he is acting like a president or
- 2:22trying to anyway. But he's not the elected
- 2:24president. He's been out of mandate over a
- 2:26year. So not the democratically
- 2:29elected Zelensky. He's saying Russia chooses
- 2:31Ballistics instead of negotiate the negotiation table.
- 2:36It chooses to continue killing instead of ending the war.
- 2:39And this means that Russia still does not fear the consequences.
- 2:44So he uses the alliteration. This Netanyahu style
- 2:47alliteration. You can see the 1st 2 lines of
- 2:50that Great public relations speech by Zelensky as usual.
- 2:54And here Zelensky has sent his chief of staff and head of the
- 2:58country's Security Council to meet with Trump's team in New
- 3:01York. This is just today, I believe,
- 3:04to discuss security guarantees to be included any future peace
- 3:08agreement. Well, I got news, bad news for
- 3:10Zelensky, Mike. There's going to be no security
- 3:12guarantees at all. Certainly, that's not going to
- 3:15be front loading. But that's what the Europeans
- 3:17want to front load negotiations with.
- 3:19It's what Zelensky keeps doing and it's what the mainstream
- 3:22Western press keeps saying. But that's not what was agreed
- 3:25in Alaska. So I don't think this is going
- 3:28anywhere well. What?
- 3:29What was agreed in Alaska was anything agreed?
- 3:32Well, the at least it was established that there would be
- 3:34a, a negotiated settlement 1st and then a ceasefire would come
- 3:38after that and that security guarantees would follow long
- 3:43after that. That would be at the treaty
- 3:45signing point of any agreement. And like we're a long way away
- 3:48from that. So they, they don't want to deal
- 3:50with the interim steps, which are the essential steps here.
- 3:53And, and so this is how the Western mainstream press, of
- 3:56course, is, is portraying these this Russian attack Putin's
- 4:01accused of sabotaging peace efforts after diplomatic
- 4:04building hit in massive assault on Ukraine.
- 4:07More on that in a moment. EU facility hit.
- 4:10We'll, we'll talk more about that in a moment here.
- 4:12But in terms of like sabotaging any peace agreement, here's
- 4:16seven days ago, Ukraine hit a oil pipeline that supplies
- 4:21energy from Russia to Hungary and Slovakia.
- 4:25But it's a transit pipeline goes via Ukraine.
- 4:27And I'll bet you that the Ukrainians are getting transit
- 4:30fees from that Russian oil and they're getting paid by Russia
- 4:34for those transit fees because that's pretty standard even in
- 4:38the midst of the war. So this was done for two
- 4:41reasons. Hitting this pipeline was done
- 4:43to basically sabotage what was agreed at Alaska between Trump
- 4:48and and Russia, and also to, I think, divide Hungary to divide
- 4:52Europe. So it's kind of a divide and
- 4:54rule tactic by the handlers of Ukraine and Ukraine themselves.
- 4:58Who are the handlers? Well, you've got the British,
- 5:00you've got the Germans and you've got that other sort of
- 5:02European actors behind the scenes that are sort of egging
- 5:05the Ukrainians on probably are CIA and the British MI 6 deeply
- 5:10involved in all of that. But again, dividing the
- 5:13Europeans, creating the Central Central European bloc.
- 5:16It seems to not be with the programme and seems to be pro
- 5:19Russian. This is setting the stage for
- 5:21something that will show briefly, but Hungary's foreign
- 5:24minister is saying that this missile strike on the Drusepa
- 5:27pipeline, this infrastructure, is another attempt to drag
- 5:30Hungary into the war. So this is the way the
- 5:32Hungarians are looking at this right now.
- 5:34So not only that Mike, but there's the Transcarpathian
- 5:39Hungarians in Ukraine. As we know, after World War One,
- 5:44Hungary lost most of its territory.
- 5:46But there's there's Hungarians, ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine and
- 5:49they're not being treated very well.
- 5:51Plus this conscription, there's accusations that they're being
- 5:54conscripted at higher rates than, you know, Western
- 5:56Ukrainians, for instance. So they look at this as
- 6:00basically Hungarian issue or a Hungarian world issue.
- 6:04So this is a real emotional issue within the government in
- 6:08Budapest and the people more broadly.
- 6:10And I know having been to Budapest last November, and that
- 6:14was a very important issue that the deputy foreign minister
- 6:17brought up to some of the members of the press who I was
- 6:20with at that time. So this is a serious issue.
- 6:23They really think that Ukraine is really doing provocations
- 6:27here to try to create another front or more tension to take
- 6:31the focus off of what they should be focusing on, which is
- 6:34winding this conflict down here. But look at the war of words
- 6:38here. This is the this is the
- 6:39Hungarian foreign minister here, Peter Sir Harto, and he's
- 6:43basically saying that Zelensky has used Ukraine's national
- 6:47holiday to threaten Hungary. We firmly reject his
- 6:50intimidation. We regard sovereignty,
- 6:53territorial integrity, including energy infrastructure here as
- 6:56fundamental values of international politics.
- 6:58So, and here is the Ukrainian foreign minister's response to
- 7:03this. I will reply in a Hungarian
- 7:05manner. So totally condescending,
- 7:07slightly racist. And he's saying you don't need
- 7:10to tell the Ukrainian president what to do, say or when he is
- 7:14the president of Ukraine, not Hungary.
- 7:16Hunger, Hungary's energy security is in your own hands.
- 7:19Diversify and become independent from Russia like the rest of
- 7:23Europe. Wow.
- 7:25So the, the, they're, they're really talking almost like
- 7:28adversaries here. And you have to remember that
- 7:32what we'll talk about the European Union and and Ukraine's
- 7:35membership later, Mike. But this is war talk between
- 7:40Kiev and and Hungary and I so. Am I reading this right?
- 7:44You're suggesting that that that they're splitting Slovakia and
- 7:47Hungary away in this way because of course they have been sort of
- 7:51naysayers to to quite a lot of this over the past couple of
- 7:54years. And so the effort is to create
- 7:57this much stronger British, French, German access within
- 8:02around which the the coalition of the willing gather in the EU.
- 8:06Is that what's going on? Yes, and the Orban government
- 8:08and Robert Fizzo in, in Slovakia, they're, they're at
- 8:11odds with Brussels. So Brussels is already sort of
- 8:13declaring them persona non grata, threatening to take their
- 8:16voting rights away because they're not on board with the
- 8:18Ukraine programme and so forth. So there's already that split
- 8:21happening. So it looks like the
- 8:23intelligence services and Ukraine, the Western
- 8:25intelligence services in Ukraine are trying to drive a wedge
- 8:28through these sort of dissident governments in Central Europe.
- 8:32So and perhaps open up a new front.
- 8:34I, I don't think that's out of the realms of possibility at
- 8:37this point. You have to remember Zelensky
- 8:39and Kiev and Europe are desperate if if Russia's seem to
- 8:43win this or come to a peace deal, it's devastating for not
- 8:48just NATO, Mike, but the EU itself.
- 8:51Right. So as Patrick says, with this
- 8:54attack on Kiev, we've seen the typical response in the British
- 9:00in the Western legacy media. But just to highlight one
- 9:03example of this, this is the Sun, the the horror moment, a
- 9:08Russian missile hit and damaged the British Council building in
- 9:11Kiev during this the the attacks that were going on.
- 9:15So that's how British legacy media reporting it.
- 9:19They're reporting that the attacks killed at least 21
- 9:22people and that and of course that it hit the British Council
- 9:25building, but also the an EU building.
- 9:28In fact, it was a third building that was actually struck.
- 9:32And the damage to the British Council and the EU buildings was
- 9:34pretty limited, as we'll see in a second.
- 9:37But as I say, that didn't stop The Sun from producing this
- 9:39video. And as you can see on screen,
- 9:42the implication of this was that this was a direct attack on
- 9:45Britain and the EU, and of course this supports the
- 9:49narrative of security guarantees being required.
- 9:52It does and but you know, the British Council building it
- 9:56might be an integral part of British soft power, but it's not
- 10:00sovereign territory. In other words, it's not an
- 10:02embassy or a consulate. So, I mean, it doesn't really
- 10:05fall under that. And you know, a lot of countries
- 10:07would have evacuated some of these facilities already.
- 10:10I mean, why wouldn't you if it's at risk of being hit or
- 10:14something like that? Unless, of course, there's
- 10:17activities going on there that you absolutely need to keep
- 10:20going because it's part of, well, what the ACT many
- 10:23accusations made against some of these NGOs and soft power
- 10:28institutions. Well, let's just look at some of
- 10:31the allegations that are made. So here is the FS BS flag here,
- 10:37but this is the Russian intelligence agency.
- 10:39And back in June, they made a comment on Britain and the
- 10:43British Council, which I thought it was worth bringing in at this
- 10:46point, Patrick. So let's just have a look at it.
- 10:48They said in their statement that Britain is the main source
- 10:51of global crises, A provocateur and instigator of wars.
- 10:55London organises coups, weakens not only its geopolitical
- 10:58enemies but also its closest allies, it's nations against
- 11:02each other, and prevents the resolution of bloody conflicts
- 11:05that it unleashed. I'm finding it very hard to
- 11:08disagree with anything in that comment.
- 11:11We've certainly reported on quite a bit of this, so you know
- 11:15there is meat on the bones of these accusations.
- 11:17Indeed. So let's have a look and see
- 11:19what they said about the British Council themselves.
- 11:22They said the British Council is a hostile organisation that
- 11:25actively participates in the operations of the British
- 11:28special services aimed at undermining the sovereignty and
- 11:32security of the Russian Federation, as well as those of
- 11:37other sovereign states. And again, I'm struggling to
- 11:39disagree with that. And then they go on to say that
- 11:43various projects are being implemented by the British
- 11:45Council to systematically discredit the domestic and
- 11:49foreign policies of the Russian Federation.
- 11:51Well, OK, I wanted to remind myself exactly what the
- 11:56situation is with the British Council.
- 11:58How much money does it get from, for example, the Foreign,
- 12:01Commonwealth and Development Office?
- 12:03So let's have a look at that. So here is the FCDO spending
- 12:09website that the UK column has produced.
- 12:11And as just as a reminder, this is an effort to make the data
- 12:15which the Foreign Office produces more accessible and
- 12:19more obvious to people. So let's see what this website
- 12:24has to say. Well, if we look at the top 20
- 12:27recipients of FCDO money, which is on that front page, the
- 12:31British Council is third on the list to the tune of £1.6 billion
- 12:37over the course of the the time frame that we're talking about
- 12:40with this website. So about the last seven years.
- 12:42Well, let's just have a look at this in a little bit more
- 12:44detail. So there's the graph.
- 12:46So it begins in December 2017. And what we can see there is
- 12:51that they receive around £20 million per month from FCDO,
- 12:56with some spikes of up to £100 million per month.
- 13:00And right there, Patrick, if we put a ring round, it is a spike
- 13:04of just under £100 million in February, March 2022.
- 13:08What else happened around that time?
- 13:11That was the outbreak of the Ukraine Russia conflict.
- 13:16Right. Yeah, February 24th, so 2022.
- 13:20Isn't that a coincidence? One would say yes.
- 13:24One would say that's an anomaly on the graph.
- 13:28I can't imagine that those two things have anything to do with
- 13:30each other though. Anyway, those are the
- 13:32allegations of the Russian Federation and you can take
- 13:36those as you see fit. I, as I say, struggle to find
- 13:39any anything incorrect about what the FSB said there.
- 13:43If that makes me a mouthpiece for the Putin regime, well,
- 13:46that's that's well and good. But that that's how it looks to
- 13:49me. Well, everything that they have
- 13:50said about the British Council is exactly what everything
- 13:54including scholars and journalists have been saying
- 13:56about USAID. This institution of this
- 14:00instrument of sub quote soft power and smart power by the
- 14:04United States as ACIA cut out organisation.
- 14:07So one could look at the British Council in roughly the same way
- 14:11a soft power or smart power outlet NGO and an extension of
- 14:18British intelligence like the USAID constellation is an
- 14:23extension of American intelligence.
- 14:26I mean, I I can't, I don't see the problem in looking at these
- 14:29things that way. And and what about the
- 14:31allegation that I've seen that the British Council was somehow
- 14:34performing some kind of coordination role in Ukraine?
- 14:37I, I have not looked close enough at the exact, you know,
- 14:41allegations there, but certainly it would, it would be
- 14:44interesting and it wouldn't be unusual.
- 14:46And like I said, USCID have played the exact same role.
- 14:49There's also been accusations about the OECD and other
- 14:53international organisation as well involved in giving
- 14:56targeting information out during from the front lines and during
- 15:00breaking the MINX peace process basically.
- 15:02And Dombass another another discussion, but you know, not
- 15:06not unusual. But so anyway, an EU building
- 15:09was damaged as well, and Ursula was outraged.
- 15:12Absolutely outraged. So let's just have a listen what
- 15:16she had to say. I'm outraged by the attack on
- 15:20Keaf also hitting our EU offices.
- 15:24This was the deadliest drone and missile attack on the capital
- 15:28since July. And as you can see behind me on
- 15:32the screen, it was an attack also on our delegation.
- 15:38I just spoke with our deputy ambassador and I'm relieved that
- 15:43none of our staff were harmed. Last night's attack struck in
- 15:47close proximity of the diplomatic mission.
- 15:49The representation of our Union 2 missiles hit in a distance of
- 15:5450 metres of the delegation within 20 seconds.
- 15:58And this is another grim reminder of what is at stake.
- 16:03This is why we are keeping maximum pressure on Russia.
- 16:08That means tightening our sanctions regime.
- 16:11We will come forward soon with our 19th package of hard biting
- 16:15sanctions and in parallel we are advancing the work on the
- 16:21Russian frozen assets to contribute to Ukraine's defence
- 16:26and reconstruction. So hard biting sanctions and
- 16:33stealing Russian frozen assets. That's the response.
- 16:37Stealing. Yeah.
- 16:38That's, that's the Ursula. Yeah.
- 16:39I mean, where is this righteous indignation for what Israel's
- 16:44doing in Gaza? I mean, seriously, by the way,
- 16:48they, they keep saying that Ukraine is at war and that the
- 16:51Ukrainians are at risk. Why do they have a mission in
- 16:54Kiev? Why don't they move it to Livov,
- 16:56which is completely out of range of pretty much any of the
- 16:59hostilities? Why?
- 17:01I don't understand, if you care about your staff and you claim
- 17:05that this is a war zone, why are you, you know, still keeping
- 17:09your building staffed in right next to a target that could be a
- 17:15military target? Because she wasn't hit directly.
- 17:17She's claiming it was attack on the EU mission.
- 17:19It wasn't. It was ancillary damage, wasn't
- 17:22it? Maybe you want justification for
- 17:24security guarantees. Well, yeah, of course that she's
- 17:27advancing that that argument. Absolutely, absolutely.
- 17:31So So yeah, that's interesting, Mike.
- 17:33So where where is Europe on, on Ukraine?
- 17:36Well, let's just take a look at this.
- 17:38So, and this is Politico here grasping at straws.
- 17:42Europe floats Ukraine, Russia buffer zone in a push for peace.
- 17:46So they're still at it basically pushing these ideas here.
- 17:49They're grasping at straws as Jim Towns and former Pentagon
- 17:52official who oversaw Europe and NATO's policy under the Obama
- 17:57administration here. Totally unrealistic, this idea
- 18:00of flooding the zone with European troops, a coalition of
- 18:03the willing doing this outside of NATO, technically.
- 18:08So there's no Article 5 tripwire.
- 18:10I mean, it's just, it's just another workaround that's just
- 18:12not practical, not not going to happen.
- 18:15Actually, if they push on this, it's going to probably create a
- 18:18huge crisis, security crisis for Europe because Russia is
- 18:22obviously not going to respect what what Europe's doing there.
- 18:26And so here's here's the number. The issue, however, Mike, the
- 18:29Russians are not afraid of the Europeans, says Jim Townsend,
- 18:33former Obama administration official.
- 18:35And if they think that a couple of British and French observers
- 18:38are going to deter them from marching into Ukraine, then
- 18:41they're wrong. So that's from the Democratic
- 18:44appointee side that are normally pretty hawkish on these matters
- 18:48here. But on the issue of Europe, so
- 18:50here, here's where you're upset right now.
- 18:52They they're still dangling this Ukrainian membership into the
- 18:57EU. And here's the Hungarian foreign
- 19:00minister here. And obviously you're not allowed
- 19:01to see this if you're in Britain or France because it's RT.
- 19:04So what we're showing you here is statements from the Hungarian
- 19:07foreign minister, which you're not allowed to read in in
- 19:10Western Europe because it's too dangerous and your governments
- 19:13are concerned about you falling under the the spell of the
- 19:18sorcery spell of Russian disinformation.
- 19:21OK, so here's what he says. Now, this is important because
- 19:25Europe needs to understand this. If someone realistically and
- 19:29rationally observes Ukrainian accession to the EU, what impact
- 19:33it would have. And you can see that this would
- 19:36be the coup de gras to the European Union.
- 19:38In other words, this would be the death knell for the EU.
- 19:42So there's a lot of people that are cheering this on.
- 19:45Actually. I think rightly maybe Hungary
- 19:46would like to see this happen because they would like to see
- 19:49the European Union possibly disintegrate the political union
- 19:53anyway. Not the Common Market, of
- 19:55course, but Brussels would have to redirect practically all EU
- 20:00financial resources towards supporting.
- 20:03Kiev the ultimate welfare state here, while quote much of lower
- 20:08quality agriculture products would destroy European
- 20:10agriculture. Big complaint, especially in
- 20:13Poland and the quote Ukrainian mafia would roam freely in
- 20:18Europe as well as the Nazis of the hundreds of thousands of
- 20:23radicalised Ukrainian nationalists and Nazis that
- 20:26would probably be homeless at that point.
- 20:29I don't know what would happen. But so this this is from the
- 20:32Hungarian side here. So it's a non starter.
- 20:35You know, you by the way, NATO membership for, for they don't
- 20:39have to give Russia guarantees because hung Hungarian Slovakia
- 20:43would never vote. They need unanimous vote, right
- 20:46for NATO membership, right? They're not going to get it.
- 20:48There's probably 3 or 4 NATO members that will not vote for
- 20:51Ukraine full stop. So it's not going to happen.
- 20:55And by the looks of this, EU membership is hugely
- 20:58problematic. What a financial drain this
- 21:00would end up being on Europe. They require complete
- 21:03entitlement and welfare support on every aspect of their
- 21:08political economy. I mean, forget it, it's it's not
- 21:10going to happen. But they're going to keep
- 21:12dangling this because that's the dream isn't it?
- 21:15Euro Maidan. And what suggests to finish this
- 21:18segment off, Patrick? What does does Russia have to do
- 21:22before the West admits defeat? Probably wins so decisively on
- 21:29the battlefield that they'll have to scramble to freeze the
- 21:33lines. Are they not doing that already?
- 21:36That's what Alaska was all about.
- 21:37I, I, I personally, I think the Ukrainian front lines collapsing
- 21:41in so many key areas that I think that's what pushed Trump.
- 21:46And the Europeans were totally behind Trump.
- 21:47Did you notice that? Oh, just completely.
- 21:49They were like school kids there in the Oval Office just waiting
- 21:52to see what daddy is going to say.
- 21:54But because they know that the US is the only chance they have
- 21:58to potentially freeze the front lines, because if they don't,
- 22:01Russia's just going to keep rolling on.
- 22:03And quite frankly, they're going to keep rolling on now in lieu
- 22:06of any sort of serious political negotiations.
- 22:10It's just going to, it's just going to carry on.
- 22:12That's probably where it's going to end up.
- 22:14I hope it doesn't trigger an irrational reaction from some of
- 22:18the Hawks in Europe. That would be unfortunate.
- 22:21But yet we we wait. End date OK, let's move on.
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- 23:41that yesterday, please have a look at that discussion.
- 23:45OK, that brings us then to TB in Washington.
- 23:48Now, am I talking about tuberculosis?
- 23:50An outbreak of TB in Washington? I think that's what you're
- 23:54talking about. It is indeed, so let's just have
- 23:57a look at it here, because it is quite horrible to watch.
- 24:00There's the virus right there. Right there.
- 24:02So Tony Blair and Jared Kushner attended the meeting with Trump
- 24:06at the White House to discuss plans for post war Gaza.
- 24:11That's what they said. They missing from the meeting,
- 24:14of course, was anyone representing the people of Gaza.
- 24:17Of course they're not invited. They're not invited.
- 24:20Blair and Kushner were apparently there to discuss
- 24:24ideas for how Gaza can be governed without Hamas in power.
- 24:29And to take a quote from some of the coverage on this, President
- 24:32Trump has been clear that he wants the war to end and he
- 24:35wants peace and prosperity for everyone in the region.
- 24:38The White House has nothing additional to share on the
- 24:41meeting at this time. So this was what a White House
- 24:43spokesperson said. An anonymous White House House
- 24:47official said that to the mainstream.
- 24:49So Trump wants it to end by any means necessary, including
- 24:52ethnic cleansing and. Moving everybody out of.
- 24:55The OR or killing whoever doesn't want to leave.
- 24:57OK, we get that. OK.
- 24:59So why was Blair there? Well of course after remind you
- 25:02that after stepping down as Prime Minister of the UK in
- 25:042007, he took on the role of Middle East envoy for the
- 25:07Quartet, so called Quartet. Just remind everybody what that
- 25:10is that was. That was a sort of confab of
- 25:14countries and formally they were trying to, you know, midwife
- 25:16some kind of a peace process in the Middle East and of course
- 25:20that include the Western powers. I even think Russia was involved
- 25:23somewhat in the Quartet as well. Complete abysmal failure, as we
- 25:28can see. Absolutely.
- 25:29And he held that role until 2015.
- 25:32But also he was also there because of course, as we
- 25:35reported a couple of weeks ago, Tony Blair Institute was also
- 25:39involved in creating the whole Trump Gaza Riviera plan
- 25:43alongside Boston Consulting Group.
- 25:46And if you remember this, this plan was announced back in June.
- 25:49It was a post war Gaza plan that envisaged kick starting Gaza's
- 25:53economy with a quotes Trump Riviera and an Elon Musk smart
- 25:58manufacturing zone. Now the FT as we can see on
- 26:01screen reported that one lengthy documents.
- 26:06So what they said was 1 lengthy document on post war Gaza
- 26:09written by TBI staff member was shared within the group for
- 26:13consideration. This included the idea of a Gaza
- 26:15Riviera with artificial islands off the coast akin to those in
- 26:19Dubai, blockchain based trade initiatives, a deep water port
- 26:23to tie Gaza into the Middle East Europe economic corridor and a
- 26:27low tax special economic zone. And, and my first question then
- 26:32was, are these akin to these, this Freeport idea that we're,
- 26:35we're getting in the West where we're supposed to have these low
- 26:37tax zones? I I'm not sure but but I guess
- 26:40it's the same, it's the same kind of policy.
- 26:42So so glitzy glitzy high rise Dubai style apartments that are
- 26:48basic and and and rivers of blood.
- 26:51Rivers of blood, yes. Around them.
- 26:54I mean, who, who, who? Who wouldn't want that, really.
- 26:57Tony Blair is midwifing that project.
- 26:59I'm so shocked. Well, indeed.
- 27:02Now, it was the news website Axios which broke the story of
- 27:06this latest meeting. And they quote unnamed sources,
- 27:10as I believe they tend to do. Patrick is that that they?
- 27:13They tend to quote unnamed sources.
- 27:15Yeah, that's standard practise from mainstream media.
- 27:17So that's how you know Axios is mainstream, yeah.
- 27:20OK, well these unnamed sources said that Steve Witkoff has been
- 27:24discussing a post war plan for Gaza with Kushner and Blair for
- 27:27several months. And the sources said that Blair
- 27:30met Witkoff at the White House in July on the same day that
- 27:34Netanyahu met Trump. Now there's a coincidence, isn't
- 27:37it? Now, according to U.S.
- 27:39officials, Trumps Gaza meeting on Wednesday this week, it was
- 27:43also to focus on AUS plan for humanitarian aid for Gaza.
- 27:47So the quote from this is it's expanding the food plan, the
- 27:51quantity and distribution method, the number of people
- 27:53that could be served. And this again was said by an
- 27:57unnamed US official. The same US official said that
- 28:01Trump's instructions are get this fixed.
- 28:04And this is very similar Patrick narrative to the to, to, to
- 28:10Britain and, and France in particular, saying that if
- 28:12things aren't fixed by September, they're going to
- 28:15recognise the Palestinian state. That some people thought this
- 28:19was a great thing. But what that that message to me
- 28:21was telling Israel, get this, get this sorted out.
- 28:25In other words, ramp up what you're doing and get the things
- 28:27finished. Yeah, we're expanding food
- 28:29distribution, but at the same time Israel's expanding bombing
- 28:32and mounting a full scale invasion of Gaza.
- 28:35I mean, you can't make this up. How Orwellian is this whole
- 28:39thing? I mean, this is just beyond the
- 28:42pale at this point. Well, later on in the day then,
- 28:46a senior White House official told Reuters that Trump and
- 28:50along with top White House officials Larry and Kushner were
- 28:53discussing all aspects of the Gaza issue, including food, as
- 28:57we just mentioned, the hostage crisis, post war plans and more.
- 29:01The official described the session as simply a policy
- 29:04meeting of the type frequently held by Trump and his team.
- 29:08I don't think so. And then we have the Times of
- 29:10Israel here confirming that. Sorry, we'll go back here.
- 29:15There we go. Confirming that Netanyahu
- 29:18advisor Rob Dermer had also arrived in Washington on
- 29:21Wednesday that they did not confirm that he was involved in
- 29:24the meeting. Dermers presence in Washington,
- 29:27they said, is a reflection of the Trump administrations close
- 29:29coordination with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu counts who
- 29:33counts the strategic affairs minister as a close confidant,
- 29:36according to the Times of Israel.
- 29:38And according to his spokesman, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon
- 29:42Saar was also in Washington to meet US Secretary of State Marco
- 29:46Rubio at the State Department. He apparently did not take part
- 29:49in the White House meeting. And again, I ask, isn't that all
- 29:54a coincidence? And so the question is, what is
- 29:57being cooked up here that it could be no more than just
- 30:00keeping the pressure on Israel and making sure that it's all
- 30:03done by September as they're wanting it to be.
- 30:05I wonder is there anything else in this?
- 30:07No, this is a big property deal. That's what this is, I'm sure.
- 30:10I wonder what Tony Blair's kickback is on this.
- 30:13What is it going to be? A penthouse at the top of one of
- 30:15those big, you know, shiny skyscrapers or you know, what's
- 30:21his, what's his, his action going to be on the back end of
- 30:24this because Tony doesn't do this stuff out of the goodness
- 30:26of his heart. There's got to be some kind of
- 30:29kickback. But this is just disgusting on
- 30:32on so many levels, Mike, Not least of all because there's no
- 30:36talk about the welfare at all of the Palestinians.
- 30:38It's just Trump wants to get it done.
- 30:40Netanyahu wants to get it done. And they again, as you said,
- 30:45they they're not allowed to invite.
- 30:46There's no Palestinians at the table and there hasn't been
- 30:49through the whole quote, Abraham Accords peace process right till
- 30:52now. And now they're really talking
- 30:54about the final solution in Gaza, the final solution that
- 30:58Israel is proposing. the US are on board with it.
- 31:01Tony Blair's on board with it, and so are all the other
- 31:04grifters and glad handers that are circling like vultures right
- 31:07now around Gaza. It's just disgusting.
- 31:10So what about Israeli reservists then?
- 31:13What are they up to? Well, slight problem, slight
- 31:16problem with the reservists, some of them are failing to show
- 31:20up. This is the New York Times here.
- 31:22I mean, the fact that this is running in the New York Times
- 31:24and nominally pro Israeli outlet traditionally is something on
- 31:28its own, but let's just let's take a look at this.
- 31:30So thousands are basically either not showing up or coming
- 31:35in with deferments and things like that.
- 31:37So over the last few months, the IDF have noticed increased
- 31:40numbers of reservist soldiers just basically haven't showed up
- 31:44to their posts for military service.
- 31:46They're disillusioned. They left the country.
- 31:49They're exhausted, many of them. There's more conscientious
- 31:52objectors now in the IDF. So this is bringing up a lot of
- 31:57question marks about whether they can mount the type of full
- 32:01scale invasion of Gaza, which it's not an invasion of Gaza,
- 32:04it's ethnic cleansing of Gaza and killing whoever doesn't want
- 32:07to leave. I mean that the way the press is
- 32:10characterising what's going on right now is, is pretty
- 32:12incredible. So I, I hope that, you know,
- 32:14there's some journalists and some editors of some of these
- 32:17major organisations like the BBC for instance, that might have a
- 32:21conscience and might start acting and like real reporters,
- 32:24voters and real journalists at this point because we're looking
- 32:26at history unfolding in the worst possible way.
- 32:30OK. Let's move on to the topic of
- 32:32Iran, Patrick and the question of the nuclear deal then.
- 32:36Yeah, Let's take a look at this here.
- 32:38So this is what's dominating the headlines right now of the last
- 32:4124 hours is the Iran nuclear issue here.
- 32:45And when we say Iran nuclear issue, what are we really
- 32:47talking about? Well, we're talking about this.
- 32:50It is really an Israeli nuclear issue.
- 32:53It really has more to do with what Israel wants out of
- 32:56Washington and with Iran because Iran's one of the last countries
- 33:00in the in the area, in the Middle East, in West Asia that's
- 33:03standing up for the native Palestinian population and the
- 33:07people of the Levant. So let's take a look at the
- 33:10particulars here. So, so what's going on?
- 33:13Iran faces, quote, snapback sanctions over its nuclear
- 33:17programme. So here's what that means.
- 33:18So remember the JCPOA Iran nuclear deal that Trump
- 33:22basically destroyed in his first term?
- 33:25It it the, the deal was that there would be snapback
- 33:27sanctions. So sanctions, UN sanctions were
- 33:29lifted against Iran if they did the JCPOA.
- 33:33They did the JCPOA and now they're threatening to put the
- 33:37sanctions back because they're saying that Iran is derelict of
- 33:40its obligations and responsibilities for the JCPOA.
- 33:43I mean, it's pretty incredible. Let's look at the particular
- 33:46here for France, Britain and Germany.
- 33:48That's the E3, the E3. They've initiated a process of
- 33:52triggering SNAP, a snapback mechanism that automatically
- 33:55reimposes all of the UN sanctions on Iran over its
- 33:58nuclear programme or its alleged its alleged nuclear weapons
- 34:02programme, saying that Iran has willfully departed from their
- 34:062015 deal. That's pretty incredible,
- 34:09bearing in mind what the US and Israel just done to Iran.
- 34:13But we'll leave that aside for the moment the sanctions were
- 34:16put in effect. In fact, there's basically
- 34:17conventional arms embargo, restrictions on ballistic
- 34:21missile development, asset freezes, travel bans and a ban
- 34:25on producing nuclear related technology here.
- 34:28And then finally, the E3 offered Iran delay in the snapback talks
- 34:34back in July if Iran met three conditions, resume negotiations
- 34:38with the US over its nuclear programme, allowing the UN
- 34:42nuclear inspectors access IAEA inspectors access to the nuclear
- 34:47sites and accounting for over 400 kilogrammes of highly
- 34:52enriched uranium. So apparently went missing that
- 34:54Trump said he destroyed, but it turns out he didn't or it
- 34:57doesn't. They don't believe he didn't
- 34:59here. Here's Iran's response, Mike,
- 35:02this is Iran's. Tehran, which now enriches
- 35:05uranium at near nuclear weapons grade levels, has rejected the
- 35:09proposal. So that's the, that's the thing,
- 35:13the, the while they're negotiating Israel, it mounted a
- 35:16sneak attack on Tehran. I mean, we all saw what
- 35:19happened. Of course, Iran retaliates.
- 35:21Then the US strikes Iran, an unprovoked attack by the US.
- 35:27So and so the US left the JCPOA unilaterally in Trump's in 2018
- 35:33May. And then so they're out.
- 35:36So Iran kept playing ball with the JCPOA and then Israel and
- 35:40the US attack Iran and its civilian nuclear programme.
- 35:43And now they're saying that Iran is somehow breach and breach of
- 35:47the agreement. It's a joke.
- 35:48The EU didn't even fulfil its obligations, its financial
- 35:51obligations. They didn't.
- 35:53Iran's been complaining about that for years.
- 35:55Nothing. So this, this is just so
- 35:58disingenuous on the part of Europe.
- 36:00But this is where I think this is where Israel wants Europe to
- 36:03go on this. And they're quite happy to abide
- 36:05by whatever Israel wants. So this is a total sham, as as
- 36:08we can see. But here's another problem.
- 36:10Take a look at this. So Iran, IAEA inspectors to
- 36:15return after Supreme National Security Council gives their
- 36:19approval. This is a strategic move by
- 36:21Iran, Mike. But the hardliners in Iran are
- 36:24basically going crazy right now saying how can you let them back
- 36:28into the country after what happened?
- 36:30And here are the accusations. This is Trita Parsi.
- 36:33He's with the Quincy Institute, responsible statecraft in the
- 36:37United States to say. On the surface, these demands
- 36:40seem reasonable, but Tehran has legitimate reservations.
- 36:43Iranian officials suspected that the IAEA of leaking sensitive
- 36:47information that enabled Mossad's assassination campaign
- 36:50against Iranian nuclear scientists.
- 36:52And they fear that revealing the stockpile's location would
- 36:55simply invite another round of US air strikes.
- 36:58Iran was at the negotiation table when Israel and the US
- 37:01began bombing it. The E3 now insists Tehran
- 37:05returned to talks, yet make no parallel demand that Washington
- 37:09refrain from bombing again. And Israel refrains, quite
- 37:13frankly, because that was an unprovoked attack by Israel.
- 37:16So Trita Parsi, of course, very astute, a political commentator,
- 37:20of course he's, I think he's absolutely correct on this.
- 37:23But this is, this is a problem now in Iran because the
- 37:26hardliners are like, why are we, why are we playing ball?
- 37:29I think Iran's playing a long game and I think Russia might be
- 37:33advising them that this is the way to go in order to build
- 37:37consensus more broadly in the international community.
- 37:40Even though it's a risk, they think it's a calculated risk
- 37:43that they're willing to take, that somehow they'll be an exit
- 37:46out of this. I don't think so.
- 37:48I think Iran and the US are planning for another war.
- 37:50They're going to attack them again, probably in the next
- 37:53couple of Israel and the US are going to attack Iran again.
- 37:57They're because the US are moving long range like the the
- 38:02Aegis and the THAAD missile systems.
- 38:05They're moving more of these into Israel right now.
- 38:07So that's clearly to defend Israeli installations and cities
- 38:12from Iranian missile strikes. Because one of the things that
- 38:14came out of the previous attack was that they got to see where
- 38:17their weaknesses were in their own defence.
- 38:19That's right, that's right. So, so right now where it is
- 38:22where the potential stalemate here if Iran leaves the non
- 38:25proliferation treaty and they're exactly in the same status as
- 38:29Israel, they could have an undeclared nuclear weapon of
- 38:32they're not part of the MPT like Israel.
- 38:35And that is a sort of unofficial stalemate in the region.
- 38:38But it's I don't think it's going to work because the United
- 38:41States has overwhelming force. Well, it's not going to work
- 38:44because there are no honest brokers in the West.
- 38:46That true? That too.
- 38:47It's not a level playing field, and that's the source of the
- 38:50whole problem. Yeah, no honest brokers in the
- 38:54West and yeah, I'm not not really sure what else we can say
- 38:58about that. It's, it's right.
- 39:00The other thing I was going to mention there was the E3 and
- 39:04this this isn't, we've mentioned this many times in this
- 39:06programme, but it's one of these sort of descriptions that tends
- 39:09to go under the radar. But the E3 is is kind of an
- 39:12informal block between the UK, France and Germany.
- 39:14And we were talking about the fact that Slovakia and Hungary
- 39:18are sort of being paired off from, from the coalition, the
- 39:22willing and inverted commas. But right at the core of that is
- 39:24this E3 structure. And although that was originally
- 39:28set up to deal with the Iran nuclear issue, it's it's become
- 39:32something much more at the heart of this whole European Defence
- 39:37Initiative. It's like the concert of Europe.
- 39:40This is where we're going, you know.
- 39:41By the way, Mike, you mentioned Hungary and Slovakia as peeling
- 39:46off and becoming dissidents within NATO and the EU.
- 39:49I'll tell you if the United States did not meddle in the
- 39:51Romanian elections, Romania will be right there shoulder to
- 39:55shoulder with Hungary and Slovakia.
- 39:57But there was meddling and they took the they took the front
- 40:00runner out of the race who was clearly against this war in
- 40:04Ukraine. Like Orban and Fiso said, it's
- 40:07unwinnable. We need to de escalate.
- 40:09And so they had him removed. I think the United States were
- 40:12deeply involved in that coup. And so they didn't get honest
- 40:15elections in, in Romania and who knows with three major countries
- 40:19ordering Ukraine, where, where that where does that leave the
- 40:23the other countries? Where does that leave Poland?
- 40:25I mean, that would certainly put pressure in Poland as well.
- 40:29Well, I mean, Poland's inviting the pressure, you know, because
- 40:32Poland is absolutely 100% on board with the whole Ukraine,
- 40:36Russia. Well, the political class is.
- 40:38Yes, yes, for sure. Yeah, probably not the voters.
- 40:41No, that for sure that is the case.
- 40:42So and and same with Moldova as well.
- 40:45A lot of effort to install the current, you know, leader in
- 40:50Moldova. They're afraid that somehow
- 40:53they're going to fall into the Russians fear of influence.
- 40:55Yeah. So this is this is the new
- 40:57battle lines. Oh, OK, let's let's move on then
- 41:00and we'll move on to the issue of censorship.
- 41:02Now over the last few weeks, we've been highlighting this
- 41:05issue of so called age assurance under the Online Safety Act
- 41:09regime. And as we've made the point,
- 41:11this is effectively one of the paths towards the digital ID
- 41:14rollout. But it's not just a British
- 41:16thing. Britain is leading the way as
- 41:18usual, but others are catching up.
- 41:21So I just wanted to very briefly have a look at the situation in
- 41:24the USA because it's tricky because of constitutional
- 41:27protections. And so these policies seem to be
- 41:31being rolled out at the state level instead.
- 41:33So let me introduce you to an organisation called Dream with
- 41:38Dream with Studios. This is what just explain what
- 41:41they describe themselves as a home for creative artists of all
- 41:44types. Share your writing, your artwork
- 41:46or your innermost thoughts. Find others who create the sort
- 41:49of things you like to enjoy. Control who can see your
- 41:51creation with our fine grained privacy controls.
- 41:55Participate in communities for everyone at any one of 100
- 41:58topics. We are an independent, open
- 42:00source, community centric service and we support diversity
- 42:03in all its forms. Come dream with us.
- 42:07Well, that's what they said about themselves, but they have
- 42:09just issued or made an announcement that they're also
- 42:13introducing Geo blocking, but not for the UK or for UK users
- 42:20as other websites have been doing, as we've been describing
- 42:23over the last few weeks, but for users in the state of
- 42:25Mississippi. And the reason is that
- 42:29Mississippi residents, I'll just quote a little bit from the
- 42:32website, they say Mississippi residents, we are so, so sorry.
- 42:36We really don't want to do this, but the legal fight we and Net
- 42:40choice have been fighting for, you had a temporary set back
- 42:43last week. You genuinely and honestly
- 42:44believe we're going to win it in the end.
- 42:47But the 5th Circuit appellate court said that the District
- 42:50Judge was wrong to issue a preliminary injunction back in
- 42:53June that would have maintained the status quo and prevented the
- 42:56state from enforcing the law. Requiring any social media
- 42:59website, which is very very broadly defined in which we
- 43:02definitely qualify as the DE anonymize and age verify all
- 43:06users and obtain parental permission from the parent of
- 43:09anyone under 18 who wants to open an account.
- 43:12The Mississippi the Mississippi law they say is a breath
- 43:15breathtaking state overreach. It forces us to verify the
- 43:18identity and age of every person who accesses dream with from the
- 43:22state of Mississippi and determine who's under the age of
- 43:2418 by collecting identity documents to save that highly
- 43:28personal and sensitive information and then obtain a
- 43:32permission slip from those parents users parents who allow
- 43:35to allow them to finish creating an attack an account.
- 43:38Sorry. And of course, this is, I
- 43:40understand the concerns, aside from the privacy concerns, This
- 43:44puts a massive obligation on them to maintain, to maintain
- 43:48certain levels of security standards because more and more
- 43:50personal information is required to be held by them.
- 43:53The UK column doesn't hold anybody's personal information.
- 43:57In fact, the only thing that you're theoretically obliged to
- 44:00provide to us is your first name.
- 44:02But most people don't provide a genuine first name there.
- 44:04And an email. Yes, an email, but and for that,
- 44:09yes, people are setting up sometimes specific emails for
- 44:12our website as anybody with any sense would do for.
- 44:15Other websites. The same for other websites, the
- 44:18same. So look, I need some help here,
- 44:21Patrick. This is clearly
- 44:22unconstitutional. But it looks to me like by
- 44:26rolling out legislation like this at the state level, global
- 44:29influencers can impose policy that in the hope that no one has
- 44:34the financial resources to take this all the way to the Supreme
- 44:37Court to challenge it. And, you know, the Constitution
- 44:40of the United States has effectively undermined, it's
- 44:44possibly even made irrelevant through this strategy.
- 44:47Or am I reading that wrong? No, you're not reading it wrong.
- 44:50I mean, how how it's going to work is that, you know, the
- 44:52state, states have certain rights.
- 44:54If it's not, if the, if the rights are in question are not
- 44:57specifically, specifically mentioned in the US
- 45:00Constitution, then under the 10th Amendment, they're kicked
- 45:04back to the states. Basically, that's what the
- 45:06overturning of Roe V Wade, the abortion federal ruling was
- 45:11about right in the end. So what will happen here is that
- 45:14if a number of states go this route, then it will be up to
- 45:18people within that state or websites or business owners then
- 45:21to to do a legal action. And if it raises to the level
- 45:26if, if they're able to, as you say, Mike, afford the appeals
- 45:29process and they have the funding to do that and they have
- 45:32the legal muscle to do that, then they could make it up to a
- 45:35high enough federal ruling whereby it would be overturned.
- 45:39And then that would be a federal precedent.
- 45:41Then it becomes a constitutional precedent at that point.
- 45:44But like even in in Britain as well, you have to muddle through
- 45:47the legal system before everything is confirmed that
- 45:51that was an overreach or that wasn't an overreach.
- 45:54So unfortunately, I think what you're saying is right is this
- 45:57policy can be enacted, policy could be enacted around the law.
- 46:01And if you get enough buy in, maybe at the corporate level and
- 46:06it becomes a political issue, then who knows it there.
- 46:10There might be a way to subvert the constitutional rights issue
- 46:14more broadly, and it could be just done by Fiat somehow, like
- 46:18so many other things have online as well.
- 46:21Yeah, indeed. Well, look, in the meantime, The
- 46:23Hill here is reporting that a bunch of Republicans through the
- 46:28House Oversight and Government Reform Committee are launching A
- 46:31congressional inquiry into Wikipedia for bias.
- 46:34Now hold on to your hats here, because what's the driver for
- 46:38this? Well, you got it.
- 46:39It's anti Semitism. So multi multiple studies and
- 46:43reports have highlighted efforts to manipulate information on the
- 46:46Wikipedia platform for propaganda aimed at western
- 46:49audiences. They say one recent report
- 46:52raised troubling questions about the potential systematic efforts
- 46:54to advance anti Semitic and anti Israel information on Wikipedia.
- 46:59See how they conflate those two things there in Wikipedia
- 47:03articles related to conflicts with the state of Israel and
- 47:06they're particularly concerned that this bias will end up being
- 47:09used to trade AI chat box the chat box, sorry.
- 47:13So the bias will become endemic. So that's that's that is their
- 47:18one of their of their main concerns.
- 47:20Why would anybody want to be anti Israeli, Mike?
- 47:22I just can't imagine why anybody would want to hold such views.
- 47:27I mean, what's Israel doing that's negative or bad?
- 47:30I just, I can't, I don't, I don't know.
- 47:33I'm shocked, you know? I'm shocked as well.
- 47:35How people would be engaged in such behaviour but.
- 47:38Well, indeed. Clearly, it's clearly
- 47:40antiseptic. What indeed?
- 47:43Shush. Now look also a freedom of
- 47:47speech issue and something which has traditionally been viewed as
- 47:50a freedom of speech issue and an act of protest in the United
- 47:53States has been burning the flag.
- 47:56Right here we go, flag burning. So a lot of people will look at
- 48:00this and say, well, why would you want to burn the American
- 48:03flag? Well, for one reason it's
- 48:05because it's constitutionally protected speech here.
- 48:08So Trump. Trump's flag burning order test,
- 48:11Supreme Court ruling and talking about Texas versus Johnson in
- 48:151989. President Donald Trump signed
- 48:17executive order I highlight executive order on Monday
- 48:21directing federal agencies to vigorously prosecute as if
- 48:26there's not other crimes, to prosecute anyone who desecrates
- 48:30the US flag because it defends the president and to detain and
- 48:34revoke visas at such non citizens who've been accused of
- 48:38such behaviour here. And this.
- 48:40So this is Trump and the attorney general, Pam Bondi, as
- 48:43you can see, flanked with the assistant attorney general
- 48:46Jeffrey Epstein really controls that office at the end of the
- 48:49day. So what are we looking at here?
- 48:52This is just a big distraction. What's the distraction?
- 48:552 things one is, is the fact that they've duffed up the
- 48:58Epstein thing, claimed that it didn't happen.
- 49:00They're not going to be releasing the files and the
- 49:04whole Israel, Gaza and genocide issue clamping down on free
- 49:09speech. Clearly UN American to cut down
- 49:12free speech to cut down the 1st amendment, which is what the
- 49:15Trump administration have been doing systematically and why
- 49:18have they been doing it for the defence of Israel and Israeli
- 49:22interests. So and I'll show you just how
- 49:24bad things are getting. So, so they're dragging us back
- 49:27in time to defend Israel ultimately.
- 49:30But on the flag burning issue, I think this is a complete
- 49:33distraction. It's, there's no way it's, it's,
- 49:36it's constitutionally protected speech.
- 49:38But there's some conservative judges, there's more
- 49:41conservative judges. Trump believes that if we can
- 49:43get this issue back up to the Supreme Court that there'll be
- 49:47instances where they could say there was motivation against US
- 49:50National Security or something that they'll be able to rule
- 49:53that some of these flag burning cases will be they'll be able to
- 49:58enforce, you know, criminal prosecutions on that.
- 50:01So that's that's what I think Trump is betting on his Supreme
- 50:04Court, you know, majority on that because the previous ruling
- 50:08was different. But here here's here's what's
- 50:10actually going on. And this is what this is where
- 50:13the Trump administration's getting hammered.
- 50:15And this is where they're losing student newspapers, suing
- 50:18Secretary of State Marco Rubio over targeted deportations of
- 50:22student journalists who are not U.S. citizens but are here on
- 50:26student visas and so forth here. What's at stake in this case is
- 50:30whether when you're in the United States, you're free to
- 50:34voice your opinion critical of the government without fear of
- 50:37retaliation, says Connor Fitzpatrick.
- 50:39He's an attorney with the Foundation for Individual Rights
- 50:42and Expression Civil Civil Liberties group, representing
- 50:45the plaintiffs in this case. The plaintiffs is the Stanford
- 50:48student newspaper, the Stanford Daily here.
- 50:51And this is the, this is the bottom line.
- 50:53It does not matter if you are a citizen here on a green card or
- 50:57visiting Las Vegas for the weekend.
- 50:59You shouldn't have to fear retaliation because the
- 51:01government doesn't like what you have to say.
- 51:04That's, that's the, this is the point that knuckle dragging MAGA
- 51:08conservatives and arch Zionists and people like that, people
- 51:13that are demanding that students be deported or locked up for
- 51:16student protests. They don't get this.
- 51:18It doesn't matter if you're AUS citizen, it's with if you're in
- 51:22the US jurisdiction, you are protected under the US
- 51:26Constitution, your First Amendment free, no speech
- 51:28assembly as well as protected as long as you're not breaking the
- 51:32law and the law protects that speech according to the US
- 51:36Constitution. Anybody attacking and
- 51:38undermining the US Constitution is an enemy of the US
- 51:42Constitution, including the current U.S. government
- 51:44technically. And that's why they're being
- 51:47sued and hammered in the courts. And Rubio will lose, most likely
- 51:51is going to lose on this case as they have done on the previous
- 51:53ones. Yeah, OK.
- 51:54But in the meantime, the ICE officers are going around
- 51:58lifting people off the streets, treating them extremely.
- 52:01I mean it's real 1930s Germany style stuff from some of the
- 52:06video clips that I've seen exporting them to other
- 52:08countries, not just to where was it this sorry the South American
- 52:14country? Is El Salvador.
- 52:15Thank you. Not just El Salvador, but also
- 52:17to some African countries is. Rwanda.
- 52:20They're doing their Rwanda. The Rwanda thing, right?
- 52:22And, and, but, and they're sending people to those
- 52:25countries where those people have no ties to those countries
- 52:28whatsoever, basically leaving them destitute in those
- 52:32countries were in a prison or whatever it happens to be.
- 52:34With no due process. No due process and with no
- 52:37support in those countries. I mean it is despicable and and
- 52:41actually pretty by the sort of what most people would
- 52:44understand by the definition of fascistic, it is pretty
- 52:47fascistic. It's very fascistic and Trump,
- 52:50Trump doing the flag burning thing through an executive order
- 52:54is a very, very bad precedent. It's also gonna, I don't think
- 52:57it's good for Trump and his legacy because this is like
- 52:59something that a desperate authoritarian would do.
- 53:02And why? Just to make some kind of a
- 53:04statement in order to somehow virtue signal to his hardcore
- 53:09base on this. But as we pointed out, Mike,
- 53:12it's absolutely tied to these other issues.
- 53:14I mean, they deported a student from Tufts University, which is
- 53:18also what this Stanford case against Rubio is for writing an
- 53:23op Ed. She was Turkish, I believe, and
- 53:25she wrote an op Ed critical of Israel, Israel's doing in Gaza.
- 53:29And they black sacked her practically.
- 53:32I mean, they sent A-Team and just kidnapped her basically and
- 53:35sent her off Mahmoud Khalil, who reported on the Columbia student
- 53:39protest leader who's a Palestinian legal resident in
- 53:43the United States, married to I think AUS citizen or legal
- 53:47resident. And they, they tried to deport
- 53:49him and they lost. He won an appeals and now he's
- 53:52out advocating against the Trump administration in Washington,
- 53:55DC. It's usually embarrassing.
- 53:57And all Marco Rubio can do is cry and scream and, and, and
- 54:00pout on Twitter. That's the, and, and that
- 54:03they're making the State Department pout with these
- 54:06childish tweets coming off the official State Department
- 54:09Twitter account. I mean, there's no dignity left
- 54:14with these U.S. officials. I mean, they, they clearly don't
- 54:19give a, you know, what about the US Constitution.
- 54:22To them, it's an impediment to whatever the Israeli lobby wants
- 54:25or whatever they, their donors want.
- 54:27And they just want to remove it, get around it, subvert it or
- 54:30just basically, you know, destroy it.
- 54:33I mean, that's kind of where this administration's at.
- 54:35I don't think this is very good for the Trump administration and
- 54:39certainly not good for America. Yeah, absolutely.
- 54:41Couldn't agree more. OK, back to the UK then And
- 54:45well, everybody will be glad to know that a free chicken pox
- 54:49vaccination is going to be offered for the first time to
- 54:52children across England. That's via the NHS.
- 54:56That's going to happen from January and their government is
- 54:59saying that thousands of children are going to be
- 55:01protected against chicken pox because of this new programme.
- 55:05Now they're going to offer a combined vaccine for measles,
- 55:10mumps, rubella and varicella. So this is MMRV now.
- 55:15So it's going to be not a triple vaccine, but a quad vaccine all
- 55:19in one dose. And so that's as part of the
- 55:23routine infant vaccination schedule.
- 55:26And this apparently is going to mean that children are going to
- 55:29miss fewer days in nursery and school, while parents won't need
- 55:33to take time off work to care for them.
- 55:35And they're saying that research shows the chicken pox in
- 55:38childhood results in an estimated 24,000,000 lbs in lost
- 55:41income and productivity every year in the UK.
- 55:44That's going to save the NHS £15,000,000 a year in cost.
- 55:48Is it? How much is the vaccine going to
- 55:50cost? Anyway, So what?
- 55:53They're leaving out one stat, Mike.
- 55:54How much is the Pharmaceutical industry going to profit off
- 55:57this? Precisely, right.
- 55:59So that's the point. But we don't need to worry
- 56:01because the chicken pox vaccine's been safely used for
- 56:03decades. It hasn't been safely used for
- 56:06decades as part of MMR, right? So, So what we're doing here is,
- 56:10is trying to suggest that there's a set a safety track
- 56:14record for for something that's didn't previously exist.
- 56:17Right. And and is this a new outbreak?
- 56:19Is this a new virus, the chicken pox virus?
- 56:22Is it brand new? Must be brand new.
- 56:23I mean, I don't remember chicken pox parties when I was a child.
- 56:26Don't remember those at all. And how many?
- 56:28How many they must They must be rolling this out because it's a
- 56:31deadly virus, right? How many children have died from
- 56:34chicken pox over the last 100 years?
- 56:38Well, I don't understand your cynicism here, Patrick, because
- 56:40the government says this is going to result in the
- 56:42healthiest generation of children ever.
- 56:44Is the number of children that have died of chicken pox?
- 56:46Is it 0 or is it under 100 in the last 100 years?
- 56:50Globally it's pretty low whatever the number is, I would
- 56:54think so. Why do you need to be vaccinated
- 56:56against something as an incubation period of a couple of
- 56:59days? Because apparently, according to
- 57:02the press release, this is going to protect children from serious
- 57:05complications that can cause hospitalisation, such as
- 57:08bacterial infections like strep a, brain and lung inflammation
- 57:12and stroke. Children having strokes.
- 57:15This is also new news. I haven't heard about this
- 57:18before. How often does that happen?
- 57:20Is it a number between zero and zero and and one or maybe range
- 57:26of probability children's having strokes from chicken pox?
- 57:30I mean, this is new. This is a great scientific
- 57:33discovery. This is right up there with, you
- 57:36know, alien life on another planet.
- 57:40I mean, this is just, I'm so in awe of the Pharmaceutical
- 57:44industry. Well, what they've done to the
- 57:46government for sure. Is incredible.
- 57:48Acting as propagandists. But I believe we do have a good
- 57:52news story and. And the reason is, Mike, is
- 57:55we're so tired of the complaints and the whining in the chat
- 57:59rooms that UK call them so negative.
- 58:02You guys never have anything positive.
- 58:04It's just all scrolling at the UK com.
- 58:08It's war, it's viruses, it's scandals, it's corruption.
- 58:12And when are you going to do a feel good story?
- 58:14Well, I'm going to change that today.
- 58:16We have got a feel good story and in fact this could be the
- 58:19beginning of something special, a feel good story.
- 58:22This will be the feel good story of the day or you can say of the
- 58:26week or whatever. So we're going to leave you
- 58:28something for the weekend that's going to make you feel
- 58:30definitely feel good. It's going to put a smile on
- 58:32your face and a spring in your step.
- 58:35Here it is right here. And this is from the Blaze.
- 58:38This is John Bolton as you can see coming out emerging from the
- 58:42bushes there. The Blaze media.
- 58:44That's that is not an LGBT website.
- 58:47That's Glenn Beck's website, if you're confused by the name.
- 58:50But we finally have an idea of why John Bolton is in hot water
- 58:54and the factor that could bring things to boil.
- 58:57What's going on there He is. That's the pensive profile shot
- 59:02John Bolton. Trump's former advisor Arch Neo
- 59:05Con, is reportedly under investigation for allegedly
- 59:08mishandling classified information.
- 59:10If held to his own standard, then his days as a free man
- 59:13might be numbered. So yes, you've read that right,
- 59:16folks. John Bolton going.
- 59:18To prison. He could end up in the clink for
- 59:21the very thing. And so obviously this is a
- 59:23retribution by Trump because during the Mar a Lago raid, John
- 59:27Bolton was all over MSNBC and Jen Pasaki show saying that
- 59:31Trump is harbouring and, you know, stealing classified
- 59:34information, hiding it at Mar a Lago.
- 59:37So I mean, Trump's getting revenge here on John Bolton.
- 59:40And but but let's be honest, is anybody upset to see John
- 59:45Bolton, his home getting raided and his office is getting raided
- 59:49this week? I can't see many people that
- 59:52would sort of, I think a lot of people be smiling at that.
- 59:55Hence that's why that's the feel good story of the day.
- 59:58Thank you very much. Hopefully that makes the weekend
- 1:00:01a lot better for a lot of people.
- 1:00:02Thank you, Patrick, thanks to everybody that's joined us
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