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Beyond Vanilla with Hakeem Moulton · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Samos podcast.
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  Speaker 3: It's Ashley and Ben and we are here today interviewing
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  Speaker 3: one of our favorites from gen season and from Paradise,
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  Speaker 3: even though he wasn't on it nearly enough.
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  Speaker 2: Hakeem Moulten, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Damn girl, you had to say if he wasn't on
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  Speaker 4: there nearly as well. We know that girl. Way to
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  Speaker 4: rub some salt in the wound. We know I was
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  Speaker 4: booted night one.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping that they would figure out some way
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  Speaker 3: to keep you longer because we needed your facial expressions
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  Speaker 3: throughout the entire season.
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  Speaker 4: You're hilarious. Honestly, I just needed some of Ben's game
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  Speaker 4: and then ought to be good. Honestly, if I had
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  Speaker 4: his juice and then I brought that on the beach
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  Speaker 4: with me, we're good. I'll probably be having a ring
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  Speaker 4: on my finger right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because it worked out so well for me, buddy, Well.
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  Speaker 2: That's what brings me to.
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  Speaker 3: One of my first questions is you mentioned my ring
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  Speaker 3: off camera, and I was like, does he know that
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  Speaker 3: that's like a bachelor ring, like that's a Neil Layne
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor engagement ring.
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  Speaker 2: And then you said that Ben has games.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that you have been a fan of
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  Speaker 3: the show for a while.
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  Speaker 4: I not for a while. I'm gonna be honest. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna be very very honest. I haven't watched it since
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  Speaker 4: when I was on the Bachelorette. I didn't see a
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  Speaker 4: season prior to that, right, solely, Yeah, yeah, but when
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  Speaker 4: I got off of her season, I literally hyper binged
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  Speaker 4: up until Matt James's season Bachelororette.
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  Speaker 2: So did you study up on Bachelor history?
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  Speaker 4: There's Bachelor history?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know that you don't need to know who
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  Speaker 2: we are?
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  Speaker 4: But you are?
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  Speaker 2: You are an icon to me.
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  Speaker 4: You're so funny. But I mean, honestly, I'm going off
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  Speaker 4: of just how good looking you both are. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Ben's obviously very good looking. He's all American white dude.
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  Speaker 4: And then we got you just as well. So like
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  Speaker 4: I figure, like some we had some big deals. I personally,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm like I said, I obviously knew I was
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  Speaker 4: going on somewhere that was a big deal because.
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  Speaker 2: He was going on some Bachelor related podcast.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, it's not even like that it's not even
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a big deal, a game. I have
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  Speaker 5: to ask you this before we dive into this whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's good.
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  Speaker 5: When you wake up in the morning, what do you
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  Speaker 5: do to be you? Because you are one of those
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  Speaker 5: people that brings joy. You are drinking an energy drink,
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  Speaker 5: which makes me a little nervous that you're like really
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  Speaker 5: peaking right now and at some point you're going to
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  Speaker 5: crash during this show. But no, what's your routine? Like,
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  Speaker 5: why do you why do you act the way you act?
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  Speaker 5: Because it is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate that. First of that's that's so much love.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Ben. Honestly, it hasn't always been like this
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  Speaker 4: all my life. You know, I just try to choose
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  Speaker 4: positivity and happiness. So I'm if I'm sleeping, I'm waking
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  Speaker 4: up around seven thirty eight o'clock am getting out boom.
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  Speaker 4: You know, probably scroll on Instagram just like any other
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  Speaker 4: normal unit in individual, brush my teeth, hop in the shower,
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  Speaker 4: have some coffee, and uh, probably do everything that the
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  Speaker 4: normal human being does. Just watch first take and all
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  Speaker 4: those good things. Honestly, truthfully, it just comes from my
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  Speaker 4: experience in life and everything I've seen and gone through
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  Speaker 4: that you realize life is so short and everybody goes
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  Speaker 4: through things. You know, your shit don't stank. You shit
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  Speaker 4: does stank, you know what I mean. So it's just
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  Speaker 4: like I kind of just try to be just be real,
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  Speaker 4: just kind of just be myself in a sense, if
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  Speaker 4: that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're even wearing a hat right now that says happy.
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  Speaker 3: You are the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: Of Vanilla to me.
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  Speaker 5: You are werol.
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  Speaker 2: You've got so much going on.
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  Speaker 3: How could Ricky, who honestly I forgot even existed, could
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  Speaker 3: never forget about a Hiquem's existence, call you Vanilla in
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  Speaker 3: the first episode.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Ricky's actually, I promise you he's not as
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  Speaker 4: bad as I made it seem like on camera. Ricky's
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  Speaker 4: not a bad dude. I don't have anything bad to
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  Speaker 4: say about him. But I don't know why he called
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  Speaker 4: me vanilla truthfully, because I'm your homie regardless. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I would never call you vanilla because even if you
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  Speaker 4: had Vanilla answers, I'm gonna tell you off camera one
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  Speaker 4: on one, like yo, like this is what I would do,
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  Speaker 4: like blah blah blah blah. But at the end, of
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  Speaker 4: the day. I think everyone dustings their own way, and
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  Speaker 4: I need to be better with my emotions and how
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  Speaker 4: I react to certain stuff like that, because it was
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  Speaker 4: a time and place for me to talk with him
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  Speaker 4: about that. But yeah, the whole Vanilla situation, I was
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  Speaker 4: kind of thrown off to a little bit. I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 4: what's up? Like what you mean? Doh? Like we're here
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  Speaker 4: for the same thing, Like we were talking before the season,
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  Speaker 4: like we both want to get married all this, man,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on? You know? So that's all. I was
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  Speaker 4: thrown off a little bit. But Ricky's a great guy.
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  Speaker 4: Rick Ricky's a great guy. Yeah, I don't have anything
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  Speaker 4: much to any bad things to say about him.
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  Speaker 5: Have you guys talked since.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's reached out. I've just chosen not to reach
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  Speaker 4: back out, just because I feel like I want to
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  Speaker 4: be real and not hold resentment towards him. If I
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  Speaker 4: was to like just pretend to be friends and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't want to do that because again, I know,
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  Speaker 4: Ricky's a good dude, but like, honestly, I'm a very
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  Speaker 4: emotional guy, and I hope things to my chest and
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  Speaker 4: I take things really to heart, and I ain't gonna
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  Speaker 4: lie to you. I took that very much to heart. He's,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, he's a great dude. We talked briefly. Briefly,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't I don't but yeah, we didn't. Really we didn't. Really,
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  Speaker 4: we haven't really talked now, we haven't talked. He's reached
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  Speaker 4: out to him, reached out to me, but I haven't.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't responded yet.
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  Speaker 5: So if it makes you feel better, I was called
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  Speaker 5: vanilla too. You and I both have the same things
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  Speaker 5: said to us. And you know what, after a few years,
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  Speaker 5: like I would rather be that guy than I would
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  Speaker 5: the dude causing chaos. You kind of fall into it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it works out over time.
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  Speaker 4: No, for sure, absolutely, No, I I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you. It's just like when you're coming
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  Speaker 4: from a person that knows you and just like damn, bro,
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  Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, it's just kind of
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  Speaker 4: like damn, Like that's how you really like? Those are
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  Speaker 4: my answers, those are my real life examples of myself.
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  Speaker 4: So I was kind of like a little bit thrown off,
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  Speaker 4: a little hurt. So that's why I was that. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think I am, you know, so reaching out to
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  Speaker 4: me showing me love. They were like, you're not van
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  Speaker 4: You're not. I was like, shout out them, will.
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  Speaker 5: Be one of those people too. You're not Vanilla, man,
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  Speaker 5: You're You're great. You came on here, you complimented Ashley,
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  Speaker 5: you lit her up. She was you know, she's tired,
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  Speaker 5: she's a mama two. She just sits down here today.
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  Speaker 5: And as soon as you jumped on, she lit up
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  Speaker 5: and you could tell she was ready to do this.
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  Speaker 5: And so that is not of Vanella characteristic. That is
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  Speaker 5: one was bringing energy. Yes, I feel like I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to walk down like a weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: As well.
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  Speaker 6: So I just you want to do it. Sounds you
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  Speaker 6: won't do it. You won't do it, you won't do it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm on Moca coffee right now, the chocolate on the
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  Speaker 6: automuply right now.
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  Speaker 5: I will say you are a lot more spicy than
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  Speaker 5: anything Vanilla, and uh, I wish you would have been
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  Speaker 5: around longer, honestly. I mean as the season was announced,
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  Speaker 5: I think we got like a spoiler about the cast
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  Speaker 5: that was going to be there. We saw your picture
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  Speaker 5: and we were fired up, and I think a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people really fired up. I remember seeing an Instagram
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  Speaker 5: post of the spoiler. In the comments, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people were very excited to watch you on the beach
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  Speaker 5: because they didn't feel like they got enough of you
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  Speaker 5: even during gen season. I think they wanted to see
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  Speaker 5: more of you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really know how to phrase this, but I
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  Speaker 5: think you're gonna know what I'm asking. Yeah, why weren't
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  Speaker 5: you there longer? Like what I mean, we said last
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  Speaker 5: week on the show that the way the format of
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  Speaker 5: this show this season has been, people seem to come
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  Speaker 5: and go too quickly for us. They seem to be
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  Speaker 5: there and leave, and sometimes there's not even an opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to connect because everybody's already pretty much matched up. So
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  Speaker 5: you're there causing chaos. And if you're somebody like you
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  Speaker 5: who doesn't like to step on toads, but you're there
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  Speaker 5: to find love, it's hard for you to meet anybody.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess if you could just expound on why
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  Speaker 5: were you only there for such a short period of
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  Speaker 5: time outside of the obvious, which is, hey, you didn't
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  Speaker 5: meet somebody?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, truthfully, I just don't think one. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 4: very very honest with you. I'm very like upfront and
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  Speaker 4: like I'm very super like I'm bold, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I get straight to the point, you know, Like, I
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  Speaker 4: guess I think I took it way too serious when
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to the women. In my opinion, maybe
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  Speaker 4: I took it too serious in a sense because I
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  Speaker 4: was trying to figure out, like like we got three
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  Speaker 4: weeks and three weeks, I'm skipping my family meeting her
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  Speaker 4: and all that, and I'm like, yo, I gotta figure
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  Speaker 4: out if I can actually see myself go down to
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  Speaker 4: the altar with her. Maybe I took that too much
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  Speaker 4: into my head instead of actually being in the moment
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  Speaker 4: and enjoying the moment when I was there, to be
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  Speaker 4: frankly honest with you, But also I think the girls
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  Speaker 4: have better matches there too. You know, I was going,
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  Speaker 4: I really's gorgeous. But like her and Jeremy have a
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  Speaker 4: sensational connection. They share a gum, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 4: no way I would be able to do something like
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  Speaker 4: that would hurt you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yo, that was weird.
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  Speaker 3: I know that we did a lot like grosser things
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  Speaker 3: as humans, like romantically.
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  Speaker 5: But like like what that was.
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  Speaker 2: Just like why did that? Guess? Why did that get me?
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  Speaker 2: Like just sharing gum.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like, what's the difference between sharing gum and
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  Speaker 3: like just putting your tongue in somebody's mouth?
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  Speaker 5: Oh for really right? But like I didn't love it
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  Speaker 5: because I think everything else has a benefit. I think
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  Speaker 5: the way we look at this is like other things
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  Speaker 5: that you're speaking of have like a personal benefit. There's
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  Speaker 5: a I don't think sharing gum has any personal benefit.
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  Speaker 5: There's no better feeling, there's no release, relaxation, there's no
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  Speaker 5: like spice. It's just like you're just doing it to
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  Speaker 5: do it.
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  Speaker 4: But for instance, you know, like I feel like everybody
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  Speaker 4: has their things they do with their person. So I
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  Speaker 4: thought that was kind of like I wouldn't share my
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  Speaker 4: gum like that, especially stretching out that long stretched yeah. Stress,
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  Speaker 4: But it was cute and it met something between them,
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  Speaker 4: and I want that. I want that non verbal maybe
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  Speaker 4: or something that's like maybe itchy to everybody else, but
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  Speaker 4: it's something that's just with us and it's us against
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  Speaker 4: the world. Like that's that's dope, you don't think.
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  Speaker 2: So well, No, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, the two of them seem like very sexually charged
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  Speaker 3: between each other, and I want to know see normally
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  Speaker 3: like we would see that stuff with the old Paradise
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  Speaker 3: and like the Boom Boom room because it's like a
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  Speaker 3: shared everything was a shared space, you know, Like, are
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  Speaker 3: Bailey and Jeremy like doing things and we don't even
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  Speaker 3: know because of these private bedrooms.
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  Speaker 4: Shit, if they were we encouraging it have fun, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, but if they are, let it be great.
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  Speaker 5: Well, could you give us an insight in that, because
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  Speaker 5: we haven't quite seen something like that play out the
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  Speaker 5: way Paradise is structured at this resort, do you have
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  Speaker 5: more access to privacy than maybe at the old spot.
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  Speaker 5: Could you sneak away and go to one of your
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  Speaker 5: private rooms and nobody would ever know?
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's cameras in our room, so it would absolutely no. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's there's cameras in our rooms. So I don't know
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  Speaker 4: the layout of the last like how would they were
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  Speaker 4: like sleeping and so far, all I know is there
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  Speaker 4: were there wasn't AC, So like that was the big thing.
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  Speaker 4: We had Ac and me and me and Jonathan sorry,
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  Speaker 4: we were rooming together and he likes it super cold
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  Speaker 4: and I like it super warm. So we had a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That might be the weirdest thing. About you.
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  Speaker 3: I like it super warm too. What's your favorite room teture? Actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I like it seventy two in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh girl, I have it like at seventy eight.
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  Speaker 4: Seventy nine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you I if I was living alone,
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  Speaker 3: I would probably go to seventy four, and I won't lie.
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  Speaker 3: Like in grad school, my friends would come over to
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  Speaker 3: my apartment and I would have it set in the
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  Speaker 3: winter in Syracuse to like seventy eight. But like you're
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  Speaker 3: telling us that like in the yeah, because I was
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  Speaker 3: leving alone and it was a polar tundra. You have
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  Speaker 3: your summer temperature at seventy eight in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question if you have your
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  Speaker 4: house at like seventy or let me ask you, Ben,
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  Speaker 4: Where's what temperature is your place at?
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  Speaker 5: Ideally sixty eight sixty nine?
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  Speaker 4: Can you feel comfortable walking around without socks, no shirt,
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  Speaker 4: just your boxers or even the shorts in the house
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  Speaker 4: at sixty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Hike. This is what I say.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to wear a little tank
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  Speaker 3: topic a sports bra with little short shorts.
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  Speaker 2: And no socks.
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  Speaker 3: I have to bundle see like this is my house
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  Speaker 3: right now, the upstairs is at the seventy.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, people as exciting is.
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  Speaker 5: This conversation you're reminding me of like my eighty five
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  Speaker 5: year old grandmother who you walk into her little like
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  Speaker 5: condo suite and it's ninety degrees in there and you
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  Speaker 5: can't breathe because it's so hot. I've never heard of this.
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  Speaker 5: This is a new thing for me. I will say this, Akim.
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  Speaker 5: There's many reasons why you are going to be a
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  Speaker 5: great husband. One day, you liking it warm in your
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  Speaker 5: house is another additional reason why you're going to be
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  Speaker 5: a great husband. Because it is a battle from the
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  Speaker 5: start as newlyweds to try to figure out how each
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  Speaker 5: person can be happy when one is burning up and
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  Speaker 5: the other one is always cold. So just remember, you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a great husband. You're gonna keep You're gonna
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  Speaker 5: keep your girl warm, and we're excited about that. For you.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I feel like there's
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  Speaker 4: a subtle like, so you have feminine quality, so you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, there's none of that. I was just saying, you're
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  Speaker 5: going to be a great husband, Hakim, Ikim.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know who you went there for who
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  Speaker 2: was on your dream list?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a great question. How do I say, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: there's people that's on there, but I'm like, they're with
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  Speaker 4: like a friend of mine. So it's like I just
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure, like as not now. But beforehand,
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  Speaker 4: like Parisa was like number one, I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: want to meet her so bad. I've seen her at
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  Speaker 4: like events and I've like said hi to her. I
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  Speaker 4: followed her, but I specifically didn't reach out to her
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  Speaker 4: because I wanted to like get the raw Parisa, like
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  Speaker 4: the you know, she's in the wild. She likes to
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  Speaker 4: look at those type of things, and I don't do
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. I don't do that at all. Let me
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  Speaker 4: tell you that, I don't camp, I don't hike, I
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  Speaker 4: don't like insects. I don't like any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But I literally, let me tell you guys this, I
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  Speaker 4: literally looked at wildlife in Costa Rica try to prepare
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  Speaker 4: a little bit like what I would get myself into
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  Speaker 4: if I was to be with Parisa. That's how much
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  Speaker 4: I was locked.
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  Speaker 2: In, y'all because she loves that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, But I had to prepare myself for the
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: you know unexpected. So I was like, okay, let me
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  Speaker 4: find out what's all these things out there? Is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be lizard, It's okay. And then they have these things,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, all right, they got monkeys in them,
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  Speaker 4: joint saws of art that so like. But then she
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  Speaker 4: wasn't down there, damn. So I was like damn. And
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  Speaker 4: then I also wanted to meet Eli Joe as well.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to meet Eli Joe as well, and I
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  Speaker 4: also wanted to meet This was a hail Mary ben
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  Speaker 4: like Olivia Lewis was like I said that before, like
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  Speaker 4: eight months before.
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  Speaker 5: That was a hail Mary underrated. She was. She's underrated
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: coming off of Paradise. I'm surprised that she wasn't on
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: more people's list. Maybe she was, but we liked her
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: in Paradise. I thought she was a great commentator.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: She's so she's amazing and she's literally gorgeous. So I
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: think her personality or energy is what really attracted me
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: to her. So that's how I really wanted to meet her,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: but you know, unfortunately didn't work out that way.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: So Ali Joe, jakeem and just for our listener's sake
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: and for my sake, because I've never been to Paradise. Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: how like, how does names even pop up on your radar?
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Because she's great? Yeah, but she's not somebody that I
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: really even knew was on the show until she came
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: to Paradise. So how how was she even on your
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: radar for somebody that you'd be interested in?
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, Jojo was on Grant season, and Grant's
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: my best friend, so I watched his seasons and all that,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: and I see her and all that, so I saw
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: her personality how she is as a woman and as well.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's kind of how I kind.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Of So you just knew from the city, Okay, Yeah,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: I didn't know if there was like a list of
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: potentials they send you and you kind of go through
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: through them and say they.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. There's this very conversational they were like, oh,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: so what is your thoughts so far? Like how do
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: you feel about X, Y and Z? And I'm like, yo,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: she's dope, Like yo, like I could see myself type
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: of thing.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: And I also met Jojo at I've met her out
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: before as well. She's she's super she's super good people,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: super super good people.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Did you just said that you're like best friends the Grant?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is that is my brother from another mother.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: So what happened between him and Juliana?
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Question? Whoa even like he's into that? Like, how's he doing?
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: By the way, what happened? She just says, let's go
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I unfortunately, actually, even though I rock with you heavy,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I can't speak with I can't speak. I can't speak
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: on another man's relationship, you know what I mean? I can't.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know how's Grant doing? Can you at least
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: tell us that?
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you how he's doing. He's doing phenomenal,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Like he has some content that he's going to be doing,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: like a content series that he was telling me about.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: He's also with the same management as well as me.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: He's going to be at San Diego's for a week
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: with me. I'm walking on San Diego from week. He's
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: doing well. He's doing better.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: To see you working out in a video or something,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: you're jacked like you you work out hard.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Dude, You don't know how much that means coming from you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Ben Higgins telling.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Me, Now, I saw video and I saw the video
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: and I think it was like a like not it
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: was like a TikTok that some somebody else had posted
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: of a video they'd seen you working out. Yeah, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: they were like saying, how like incredible it was. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, dang, dude, like you you you push
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: it hard.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I don't know if
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: you really mean that. I don't know if you really
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: saw Instagram video me working out, but I'm I'm I'm
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: a I'm going. I'm going to the benefit of the gun.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: It's been a while. Maybe I was just having dreams
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: about you and it popped in my dream. Either way,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: you're going to be walking. I gotta get to the gym.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I gotta go. Uh so you're walking in swim week.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: That's a big announcement.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's other people there. I think as well.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Good for you. Hey, back to Paradise. You left and
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: they announced that money was going to be a component
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: in this season of Paradise. We have mixed thoughts on
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: it here at the Almost Famous podcast. Honestly, we've kind
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: of come to the consensus that we just don't like it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: It distracts from the love. Ashley is maybe a little
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: less on this.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: We're getting to know more, though, Ben, We're getting to
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: know more because you know, at the end of last
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: week's episode. In the teaser, Jesse says that, like, you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: gonna compete in couples challenges to see how strong you
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: are together, and then it seems like the strongest couple
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: determined by these challenges will be winning the money together.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: So it's not as if like love or money.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what he's fair, Ashley was out last week.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Come on, there's a lot of lot more contexts there now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: But it would that have changed your strategy at all
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: if you knew that money was going to be a
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: component going into it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I have no clue because I'm still confused on
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: the money component, Like what the heck is going on?
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: And that's what I think.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: We're still supposed to be a little confused, but I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: think we have a little bit of a clear picture.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I think that what seems completely different is that we
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: are always getting teases towards engagements, but we're not getting
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: any teases to an engagement. There's no rings in the teasers.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: There's just the pot of money. So maybe instead of
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: a ring, you guys are splitting money and they're like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you can get your own Neil Lane with this money.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Or are they just trying not to push engagements because
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: they're a little concerned that engagements haven't been working lately.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Let me if you guys have been in the Bachelor
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Bachelor franchise for a minute, right, like.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: You guys are old, yeah years?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, if y'all confused, imagine a
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: person that just joined last year. How confused I am
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: with all this? Because what is going on? Are we
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: doing the challenge? Here are we doing? Are we doing
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: too hot to handle? Here are we doing?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: What the hell is going on here? Like, I'm confused
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: as much as you are with the money aspect. I mean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: who doesn't like money? But like I was, I just
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: would not have had it expected. I don't know what's
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: going on. Do I enjoy the money aspect of it? Yeah?
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Cause my one of my guys can win that money
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and then you know, we can you can have a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: little yacht party and I can be there to you
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: know what I mean now? But seriously, for me, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not a huge fan of it, Ashley. I'm gonna
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: be honest, if I'm not a huge fan.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm a fan.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm glad that we're getting to know
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: more and it doesn't seem like you have to choose,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: because that was the.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: More I know, the less I like Ashley.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Wait, dec It's like they're still talking about the strength
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of a relationship. They're not talking about like choose lover money.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't Actually I don't know what I truthfully,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I was just on that season. I don't know what's
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: going on in a bad way or anything like that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And I talked to people after the season too, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't really inquire about that. But I'm so confused,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: like are we just doing challenges? Like are we doing
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: like tug of war type of things? Like like what
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: are we? Like, what's going on? Like you know what
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, Yeah, That's why I'm like, because Spencer's
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: gonna kill it, Like Spencer's is a literally a stallion.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: The dude literally does like Spartan races for a living.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: You know who's gonna compete with them? No one's could
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: come in there preparing that we're gonna do challenging. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: have no cardiovascular shape.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Me neither, So like got it be screwed.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would mean you're walking in the swim race, right,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: so I appreciate you.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You and I are one and the same.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait why did we use that?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Of all?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Why we gotta you know I can't swim in a
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: swim race? Like, why are we saying no?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there'd be more cardiovascular I'm not
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: going to chocolate versus vanilla or anything.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Like that again, because I absolutely don't know how to.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I'll be watching in that moment too. That's the things.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my good, thank you, you're semony. Okay, I gotta
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: know about Dale? Dale did arrive when you were still there?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Was Dale's ends as dramatic as it seemed on TV?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And like, did the girls really regard him as such
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: a prize because like in last week's episode, we're looking
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: at it and I'm like, see truth, col Bett and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I are so sassy towards Dale, Like my bad, sorry,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: but like I could. I was very disappointed, but not
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: surprised that Kad gave him the rose. I knew that
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: she was gonna want to give him one more chance,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and I think she soon after giving him that rose,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: really regretted that decision.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: He just seems so full of himself.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Honestly, actually he's not. I do think he maybe could
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: have more empathy in the way she saw something, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I think he needs to maybe see it in a
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: different lens. But when I met him, he was a
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: solid dude. Honestly, he was a good dude. He's more
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: to himself. He's not the loudest person in the room.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: He's observed and he's not over there trying to call
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: scenes or anything like that. Like he really just trying
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: to stay the way. That's kind of how he moves.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: So you kind of just conversate with him and then
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: so for he's when he gets to know he's not
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a bad guy at all. And yes he was when
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: when he arrived, all the girls were damn near. I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: didn't know if their jaws were going to be picked
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: up from the floor or you know what I mean.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Everyone was like because my jaws on the floor too.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Because I was like, he was walking up and I'm like,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: hold on.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: That's what I remember from me, Oh that's what I thought.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that you did react just like a girl did,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and I hold on.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: He came in I'm like, damn. I was like, Damn,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: that's a handsome dude. I I ain't gonna lie. He
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: was six foot four or five with some green eyes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: got curly here. I'm like, all right, man, just don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: pick anybody that I'm looking to try to get to,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, that's all. I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: pick anybody that I wanted.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: To know, you know.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's so cute.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Who would be Like, who's most my type on the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: beach is Jonathan?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I think he's so you knew it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I knew it. He knew it. Jius the man. Jack
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: is the man. And also also just based off your
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: bubbly personality, I think it would be like, obviously you're
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: a married woman, you're fit and all that. We just
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: want to make sure to put that out there. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like that's great energy. You guys would be like a
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: lot of fun.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Like I'm already having on him that I have another
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: being in a second life, no goodness.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So April gave him the rose this week. Yeah, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: we know that that was because he needed to stick around.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything to tease with us and Jonathan?
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jakes is gonna do his thing and he's gonna
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: get to know the ladies to the best of his ability.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: He's going out there. He's not just trying to match
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: with somebody and match with somebody. I think he's really
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: going in here. He's trying to find that woman. He's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: gotten to know everybody, who's talked to everybody, So whoever
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: comes in, he's gonna try his best to figure things out.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Will it work or will it not work? I'm not sure.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I can't tell you that, but like he's gonna do
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: his thing.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: For sure, He's gonna skip becoming a fiance and go
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: straight to becoming a grandfather. I think is the path.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Does April have kids?
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but does that dream she does? Hoking,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: That is a question I would love to hear from you.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I mean the Golden show up, there was a lot
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: of controversy coming into the season the Goldens were going
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: to be there. The show teased that there would be
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: possibly some young Ens and some Goldens connecting. Would you
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: have given any Golden a chance if you were on
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: the beach when they walked in, not just in general,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: would you have given any of a chance to possibly
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: have a connection.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: MAHA's answer, Yeah, you're honest.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Answer, well, yeah, you.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: See how gorgeous Leslie is. What are you kidding me?
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I'm with you, I've met her. She's beautiful.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? If I would give them, would
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: they give me a chance?
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Like what you think they would? I think it so
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: okay to give you a.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Prince. She's on level. She is a batty bro Like
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: when I brow bro, bro, Bro, I.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Wish you're still around so bad.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, you aren't made for TV,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: You're made for reality TV. And you even had a
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: cameo on the The Secret Lives of.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Mormon Watch will.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Please come on that show at least so we can
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: all watch?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: So I will.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, So he's like, oh secrets I allowed to?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what. I don't know if I'm I'm not sure.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I might be. It might be a
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: cameo again, if they allow. It's if they if they
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: allow anything, because obviously I'm friends with them, like on
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: a real level, so it's not about like me.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Going on, how did that happen? Elaborate on your friendship, like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: how do you have a connection to them?
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So I think it was during it was during
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: AFR for the Bachelorette. They came no no, no, no, no, no,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: let's back up mental law. They showed their preview and
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: this is I have no clue who Taylor, frank Taylor,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Frankie Paul is at this time. And I hear about
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: swinging and this is and that on the show, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this is mad. I'm looking at him like, Yo,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: this is gonna be crazy. And they kind of showed
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: my face throughout the whole entire trailer of that, and
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: then they brought them in for the AFR and then
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I sat next to Demi and Brett, and then I
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: sat next to Jen and Zach Affleck anyhow, But yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: so I got to know Demi and Brett very well
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: and I became like really close friends and like they're
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: like my best friends. And then I met Jesse and
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Jordan through to me as well. So yeah, me and
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: her are very close to me and Jesse. So they
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: kind of just invited me to this Halloween party. I'm
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: thinking it's just a party. We just turn it up,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna turn up with some sodas, have fun,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and you know, so I go to the Halloween party.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Then they're filming. So I'm like, all right, so I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: signing an appearance waiver and all that and so forth.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: And then yeah, so I didn't know if I didn't
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: know if I was going to be able to just
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: with the behind the scenes type of thing, if I
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: was able to be on there. So I didn't expect that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: So I was kind of shocked myself when I saw
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: myself on there.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, you get you bring me great joy.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: There's another way, and this is so good. This is
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: gonna be great for our video. But you're so much
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: more than what we're about to ask of you, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: just as a human. But Astley, I'm gonna let you
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: play the little game that iHeart has came up with
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: for us to play with a team. I'm excited to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: watch it. She's better at this than I am. She
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: always does this with our guest. She kind of does
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: rapid Fire. But our rapid Fire is gonna look a
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: little different today with you, Ashley, Can you explain what
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: we're gonna ask of him?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to ask you some paradise scenarios. We're
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: gonna like kind of make them up, and we want
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: your honest facial reaction, and we're gonna have this go
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: up on our socials. But also you know their listeners
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: will also still be listening to this as well. So
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: imagine you walk into your hotel room and you find
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: two goldens making out on your bed.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Gold's making out. Yeah, keep it going, keep it going.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, you're farting with a woman while hanging out
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: on a lounge chair, and then the biggest lizard creeps
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: over on top of your shoulder.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Creeps over on top of my shoulder. Probably will jump.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna jump a little bit,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: probably myself. I'm gonna be honest, I'll probably remove myself
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: and them grab her hand, and I'm like, let's let's
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: chat somewhere else, you.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, even if it was even if it was Parisa.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Or would you be we can we can swap seats. Okay, okay,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: we can swap seeds if you want to be next
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to the lizard, but we wouldn't. It wouldn't be Paris
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: because is happily with Brian right now.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so we can. She's awful limits limits.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Clearly, she's on the show with her currently, like they're
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: on they're happy.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, well they're on the show happy right now?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: All right. Imagine you're getting some advice in the bar
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: at the bar from Wells, but then he passes you
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  Speaker 3: a drink and it accidentally falls all over you.
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  Speaker 4: Wells, I'm like, oh man, you good. Like I'm gonna
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: be like kind of like, oh oh, can I get it?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Let me get a napkin, Wells. Wells, you know, Wells
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  Speaker 4: might just laugh actually type shit like he might just
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  Speaker 4: look at him and laugh, you know, so let me
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  Speaker 4: get let me get a napkin real quick.
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  Speaker 5: You know, God, have you seen on social media that
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: on the golf course people are like taking a paper
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  Speaker 5: clip and they're paper clipping like a fake snake to
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: somebody's like the back of their shorts, and when they
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: start walking, that snake follows them and then they start running,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: the snakes coming faster at them. Have you seen that?
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  Speaker 4: No, but that sounds hilarious but also awful to the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: person who's getting that done to them.
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  Speaker 5: I think you'd be the perfect person to do it too. Oh.
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  Speaker 5: I think That's what I'm thinking of right now. Hakem.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: We wish you the best final question for today. You're
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: dating life, post Paradise, post show, kind of where you
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: stand today. What are you looking for for anybody out
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: there listening? Or is it active right now?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's active right now. I'm not a
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: person that tries to force it though. I'm not a
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: dating apps type of dude. I'm more of a guy
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: who likes to meet somebody through somebody or meet him
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: kind of organically meeting that maybe the grocery store, library,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: all those or if by me somebod at the bar,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I'll talk to them too. But I'm really looking for
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: somebody who would be a great mother of my kids.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's the most important thing for me, is
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that they want to be a mother and they really
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: want to be a good mother and take it very
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: very seriously. So being a good role model for kids
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: is something that is like a green flag and is
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: a big like, oh my god, she's gonna be so maternal,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: She's gonna be so nurturing to her kids. That's gonna
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: be like, oh my god. For me. Another thing is
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: is like just super caring and loving. I'm a very
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: loving w type of dude. I'm emotional, so like I
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: like that stuff. So like, if you love me if
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: you think I'm looking good, like, let me know, tell
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: me I don't get tired of it. Like if you
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: want to kiss on me, you want to wear my clothes,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: you want to hold me, to hold you all day,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I'll do it. Like that's just kind of person I am.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I love the love of them type of stuff. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: hopefully I just want somebody to be really family oriented.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Like family oriented is super important to me because I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: super close to my family and I just started rebuilding
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: a relationship with my father. So if there's reasons why
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: that she doesn't have a certain relationship with somebody, like
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: it's always okay, you know what I mean. But like
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I really would love to see see my woman, who's
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: hopefully my wife, going to be very like incorporated with
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: their family traditions and not just farly remove themselves as
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: they remove themselves from the home, still be very involved
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: and yeah, baby, very like very respectful to parents because
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that's very important for me too, because I don't want
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: to have a friendly relationship only with my parents. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: don't curse with my parents. It's just it's a little
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable for me. It's just like we have like a
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: very like a. I don't know if it's culture difference,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: but we have a very like fine level of respect
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: line for them, so like I kind of just want
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: that to always be there, Like we always have like
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: a loving, friendly relationship with our parents, but then we
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: also have like a sign of respect for them as
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: well too.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: So she's out there, She's out there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: So he came, I need to ask you, though, did
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: you ever pick up a girl at the library?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I did. I have picked up a girl at the
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: library before, but not recently, not recently.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Now is this a college thing or a college thing?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: This was a college thing, college thing, college, But I
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: think you find great people anywhere, honest But I just
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: tried to not have it in the night life scene
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: because we're not usually in the right frame of mind
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: at that time. To be frankly honest with you, I'll
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: speak for myself. I'm not usually in the right frame
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: of mind. If you see me outside, you know, so
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I'm usually trying to get after it or I'm just chilling.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: That makes sense, It makes sense to me. Hakeem. We
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: wish you would have been there longer on Paradise, but
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: since you weren't, I know there's somebody out there in
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: this real world outside of the Bachelor in Paradise scenario.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: For you, you got a cousin, I don't, and no sisters,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: no cousins. I'm such a small little family I got. Uh, Hakeem,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: thanks for coming on. We'll be talking to you again
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: soon hopefully.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Sounds good. Sounds good of so nice meeting you both.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Nice meeting you too.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Byek you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: This has been the almost famous podcast today. We had
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Hakeem on from this last season of Bachelor in Paradise
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: and one hundred percent of fan favorite. One of those
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: people if you listened a few weeks ago you heard
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: to say some of our favorites have just come and
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: gone way too quickly and way too early. He's one
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: of those people that we the show would have benefited
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: from having on longer. And I think he could have
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: found somebody really special if he was on longer. But hey,
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: it didn't work out.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I have just been like, hey, would you like to
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: take over as narrator?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: I really just wish I would have seen him hit
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: up leslie like I like that he seems so confident
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: in that I answered, so excited about it that, like
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: I think I really believe him when he says, no,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: I would have, and I'm like, goodness, gracious, how did
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the show let you go?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Set on that opportunity to Here's to be more production involvement,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: guys around.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Yea and the Hypocrites. Is the Almost Famous Podcast are back? Hey,
• 36:43
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• 36:45
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• 36:48
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• 36:52
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