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- 0:05Speaker 1: All systems going clear. The left of.
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- 0:50Speaker 2: us out a ton It's a Green Bay Packers game.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We got a Green Bay guy we brought in down below.
- 0:55Speaker 2: I couldn't wear my jersey. I didn't don't want too
- 0:57Speaker 2: many people coming in. What is this a Packers show? No,
- 1:00Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be the host. I'll be a little mutual.
- 1:03Speaker 2: No bias over here. We got our man maids talking
- 1:06Speaker 2: about the pack We got the Hoopster of course, as
- 1:08Speaker 2: always excited to bring them in. Forty and a half total,
- 1:12Speaker 2: three and a half point spread. Are the Packers' favorites.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Should be a great football game, two good teams and
- 1:17Speaker 2: who brought it up? I'll throw it to him. But
- 1:18Speaker 2: the last two Lions losses are these Green Bay Packers
- 1:21Speaker 2: and the Washington Commanders. I would do today, hoop excited
- 1:24Speaker 2: for this one tonight?
- 1:26Speaker 1: Yeah? Do them all excited for this one? And yeah,
- 1:27Speaker 1: I mean these two teams set the Lions down the
- 1:30Speaker 1: path of destruction. As I'm kind of saying, it's you know, hey,
- 1:35Speaker 1: I nailed the week one. I said they were not
- 1:37Speaker 1: going to do well against the Packers. I didn't think
- 1:40Speaker 1: it was gonna be that bad. I have to admit
- 1:42Speaker 1: I thought it'd be maybe a little bit closer. But
- 1:44Speaker 1: the Packers absolutely kicked my lines ass. And you guys
- 1:47Speaker 1: were soft on me, Like Nige, you know, you and
- 1:49Speaker 1: I had to back and forth, but you know you
- 1:51Speaker 1: didn't give it to me too hard because I think
- 1:53Speaker 1: you knew I realized early on it wasn't looking good
- 1:56Speaker 1: for me. Made the call. Worked out well from the
- 2:00Speaker 1: the take standpoint, but from the fans standpoint. Man not
- 2:03Speaker 1: feeling good about my Lions. I think too much to fix.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And it's just funny listening to like sports talk radio
- 2:08Speaker 1: and stuff, and like every fan base, they're just so
- 2:11Speaker 1: hardcore for their team. It's like, oh, it's just one game.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Even Dan Campbell, like I'm kind of getting sick of
- 2:17Speaker 1: his shit too, like, oh, it's just one game, we'll
- 2:19Speaker 1: fix it. It's not a bit like, no, that was
- 2:21Speaker 1: a big deal. You got your ass handed to you
- 2:24Speaker 1: in every facet of the game. So definitely kudas to
- 2:26Speaker 1: the Packers, but a good game tonight for DFS million
- 2:30Speaker 1: up top on DraftKings, FANDUL prize pools are big and
- 2:34Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank Nates for stepping in for
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- 2:39Speaker 1: corner here, got the two Packers guys. So I'll try
- 2:41Speaker 1: to try to hold my own as we go through.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't be lying, no jersey on the little
- 2:46Speaker 2: packers there, little packers there, a little packers there. I
- 2:49Speaker 2: mean his packers everywhere, no doubt about that. Nates excited
- 2:52Speaker 2: to bring you in, excited talks and football with you,
- 2:54Speaker 2: how we do it.
- 2:55Speaker 3: It pretty good.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Glad to be on here, supping in for tampball should
- 2:59Speaker 4: be should be a fun one. I think I got
- 3:01Speaker 4: some interesting takes overall. Seems like a pretty good slate
- 3:04Speaker 4: in general, pretty good total. Obviously still good weather here
- 3:07Speaker 4: in Green Bay at this time of the year, so
- 3:09Speaker 4: not really too worried about any snow or rain or
- 3:11Speaker 4: crappy field conditions.
- 3:12Speaker 3: I mean, talk about Soldier Field.
- 3:14Speaker 4: That field looks miserable out there there, and Green Bay's
- 3:17Speaker 4: got their natural tur their natural grass out there. And
- 3:20Speaker 4: uh Man tough, tough scene for the Bears. But yeah,
- 3:23Speaker 4: now Hoops are kind of hit hit the nail on
- 3:24Speaker 4: the head the Lions tough scene, tough scene for them,
- 3:28Speaker 4: and hey as a head pillach right of a franchise
- 3:31Speaker 4: after last year and the year before and all the
- 3:33Speaker 4: hype around them, you got to do your best to
- 3:35Speaker 4: try and safe face as much as you can with
- 3:37Speaker 4: Dan Campbell there. But now looking forward to breaking this
- 3:39Speaker 4: one down should be it should be a pretty fun
- 3:41Speaker 4: game here.
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- 5:53Speaker 2: you do want to join, we're gonna talk some broad slate.
- 5:56Speaker 2: I'll throw it to you Nads first for your broad
- 5:58Speaker 2: slate hoop. I don't know if you want to throw
- 6:00Speaker 2: up Sabers in the dry run your thoughts there. Nate's
- 6:03Speaker 2: the Packer fan forty eight and a half total three
- 6:05Speaker 2: and a half points, spreads of the Packers. Just grand scheme,
- 6:08Speaker 2: how you see the game going and then translate that
- 6:10Speaker 2: into DFS.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Yeah, broad slide overview.
- 6:13Speaker 4: I think captain position is going to be really condensed
- 6:15Speaker 4: in terms of ownership with Jade and Daniels Jacobs and
- 6:17Speaker 4: Love up top just because right the you got some
- 6:20Speaker 4: unknowns in terms of the Packers receiving game, just much
- 6:24Speaker 4: like last year, right, kind of wide receiver roulette going
- 6:26Speaker 4: on there, so it's hard for people to really kind
- 6:29Speaker 4: of tap in at a big rate to the wide
- 6:31Speaker 4: receiver pass catchers up top. Josh Jacobs obviously workhorse back
- 6:35Speaker 4: solidifly there some talking points we can bring in right
- 6:38Speaker 4: short week, first game, second game of the season, right
- 6:41Speaker 4: off a short week, so you could see a little
- 6:43Speaker 4: bit more work going to some of the backup guys,
- 6:45Speaker 4: but from a captain perspective, Dry runs everything kind of
- 6:48Speaker 4: points to Daniels Jacobs in Love up top for the
- 6:50Speaker 4: most part, a little bit of a Romeo Dobbs and
- 6:53Speaker 4: Deebo and McLaurin things like that, but after that it's
- 6:55Speaker 4: pretty much a waste slam. I think there's some interesting
- 6:59Speaker 4: avenues on weekend tap in, and not only that, right
- 7:01Speaker 4: the week one kind of overreactions. I think a lot
- 7:05Speaker 4: is going to play into this game too, with some
- 7:07Speaker 4: of the Packers wide receiver stuff, right with Romeo, Dobs,
- 7:10Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft, and then on the other side, right with Krusky,
- 7:15Speaker 4: Merritt right, the rookie running back there, and Eckler kind
- 7:18Speaker 4: of getting lost in the shuffle there.
- 7:20Speaker 3: So week one overreactions always come true.
- 7:23Speaker 4: I think combining right your preseason or before last Sunday,
- 7:27Speaker 4: right before Week one, kind of our envisions of how
- 7:30Speaker 4: we thought these teams were gonna look, and then combine
- 7:32Speaker 4: that with what some of the stuff that we actually saw.
- 7:35Speaker 4: I think find of the happy medium between both of
- 7:37Speaker 4: those I think is going to be important here tonight.
- 7:39Speaker 4: And again we're still not going to know. It's still
- 7:41Speaker 4: early in the season. It's still basically the preseason for
- 7:44Speaker 4: many of these teams. But I think ownership is going
- 7:46Speaker 4: to dictate a lot more in the regard of what
- 7:48Speaker 4: happened last week has.
- 7:50Speaker 3: To happen this week, and that's not always the case.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Week one at no one knows anything. You
- 7:56Speaker 2: can always go against the chalk that way. Week two
- 7:58Speaker 2: people think they know everything just off a one week sample.
- 8:02Speaker 2: So that's good stuff there, Hoop. What I always like
- 8:04Speaker 2: to look at is like, how open is the slate
- 8:07Speaker 2: for the Packers. You know, obviously quarterbacks never open. Running
- 8:10Speaker 2: back it's not open really on the Packers. Jacob's gonna
- 8:12Speaker 2: get ninety percent of the work. If that you get
- 8:15Speaker 2: to the receiver room, though you talk about it a lot.
- 8:17Speaker 2: I mean, you're playing Russian Roulette with these guys. Just
- 8:19Speaker 2: so many guys will be mixing in. They run two
- 8:23Speaker 2: tight end sets and they run three receivers. Occasionally they'll
- 8:25Speaker 2: go spread. But outside of Romeo Dobbs, who's completely mispriced,
- 8:29Speaker 2: it's not usually the same two guys that are on
- 8:32Speaker 2: the field. Jayden Reid only was playing in three receiver sets.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Golden didn't play as much as some thought. Wicks mixed
- 8:38Speaker 2: in a good amount. Then you go to the commander side.
- 8:41Speaker 2: They mixed receivers decent, little more than I expected too,
- 8:44Speaker 2: but they have the big question at running back is
- 8:46Speaker 2: it Eckler is a JCM, etc.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I like that.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I want more questions. I want more players on the field.
- 8:53Speaker 2: When it comes to a showdown game, a lot can happen.
- 8:56Speaker 2: We play a dupe game. I mean, what huge, huge
- 8:58Speaker 2: priaz one hundred and thirty thous and people in that
- 9:01Speaker 2: main contest today. I think there is still a lot
- 9:03Speaker 2: of unknowns on both sides with snaps and stuff that
- 9:06Speaker 2: you can embrace, and we could see a lower dupe
- 9:08Speaker 2: winner like we've seen it seems like to start the year.
- 9:12Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I agree with you. I like,
- 9:14Speaker 1: looking at this late, how open is it? Like? What
- 9:16Speaker 1: do we know? What don't we know? What do we know?
- 9:20Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, Studd fantasy player, you know, Jordan Love good player,
- 9:25Speaker 1: Josh Jacob's going to get all the work Commanders wide receivers.
- 9:30Speaker 1: We know who the two main guys are, you know,
- 9:32Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Terry McLaurin. Outside of that pretty open slate,
- 9:36Speaker 1: like we didn't know what we're gonna get with the
- 9:37Speaker 1: Packers wide receivers. Like last year they mixed in a
- 9:40Speaker 1: ton of guys. We weren't one hundred percent that was
- 9:43Speaker 1: going to be the case this year. Well it is
- 9:45Speaker 1: the case this year, at least based on Week one.
- 9:47Speaker 1: They're going to continue to play a ton of different
- 9:50Speaker 1: guys at wide receivers. So it does make it difficult
- 9:54Speaker 1: to really capture and nail down the quote unquote ceiling
- 9:58Speaker 1: game that you need for show. So I do think
- 10:02Speaker 1: ownership at the captain position probably a little more consolidated
- 10:06Speaker 1: around certain guys, and those guys are gonna be Jadan Daniels.
- 10:10Speaker 1: We're showing them twenty five percent, Josh Jacobs eighteen, probably
- 10:14Speaker 1: gonna be twenty percent, Jordan love a little bit. But
- 10:18Speaker 1: then after that it opens up quite a bit. You're
- 10:21Speaker 1: looking at probably a bunch of guys that are between
- 10:24Speaker 1: three and eight percent probably, and then you're gonna have
- 10:27Speaker 1: your your sprinkle guys in there as well. So at
- 10:30Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think it's gonna be
- 10:32Speaker 1: Jadan Daniels Josh Jacobs that get probably close to fifty percent.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I would say ownership in the Captain spot. I do
- 10:41Speaker 1: anticipate both to come up. So if you have a
- 10:43Speaker 1: lean on anyone else, you're gonna get them at low
- 10:46Speaker 1: ownership and we'll talk about some other guys. I do
- 10:49Speaker 1: think it is somewhat interesting. This is just based off
- 10:52Speaker 1: projected points. I went in here, ran it, and I
- 10:55Speaker 1: am gonna change it. I'm gonna I'm gonna switch the
- 10:57Speaker 1: Sabers score for the sake of the show because it's
- 11:00Speaker 1: liking the value guys in Captain just based off projecting score.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And then you get to flex and it just wants
- 11:05Speaker 1: to jam Jayden Daniels, Jacobs, Jordan Love You and see
- 11:09Speaker 1: basically one hundred percent six percent. So this dry run
- 11:13Speaker 1: based on projected score is really not gonna do us
- 11:15Speaker 1: any good. Like just the way the points are shaping up,
- 11:18Speaker 1: it wants these chief captains, So I'm gonna run it
- 11:21Speaker 1: by saber score and see. But for me personally in
- 11:23Speaker 1: the captain spot, definitely fine with the two guys that
- 11:27Speaker 1: I talked about, Jaden Daniels, Josh Jacobs. I think their
- 11:30Speaker 1: role and expectations safest on the slate. Jordan Love, you know,
- 11:35Speaker 1: a little bit more risky than those two. And then
- 11:38Speaker 1: all these pass catchers in running backs should be low on.
- 11:41Speaker 1: So again it's an opportunity to take advantage of your
- 11:45Speaker 1: your reads and guys you want to get overweight on.
- 11:47Speaker 1: It's going to be easy to get overweight on the
- 11:49Speaker 1: guys that you want outside of these main few guys
- 11:53Speaker 1: at the top. So I'm gonna switch this and we
- 11:57Speaker 1: can talk through it again. But that's kind of kind
- 11:59Speaker 1: of where I'm at in the captain position.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty five percent we have it when you add
- 12:04Speaker 2: up Jade and Daniels, Jacobs Love at captain everyone else
- 12:07Speaker 2: flow ten percent. I mean there's some big boy names.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin obviously not a great Week one, but did
- 12:12Speaker 2: people forget about him, Deebo, Samuel and then yeah like Jaden, Reed, Golden.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Some of these guys look a little overpriced. I don't
- 12:20Speaker 2: know if even that's the right word off a week
- 12:22Speaker 2: one in the usage gs, but obviously the upside is
- 12:24Speaker 2: still there when you're comparing the ownership and the complete
- 12:28Speaker 2: biggest miss price on the slave. That's why you were
- 12:30Speaker 2: showing going shorting by projection Romeo Dobbs. I mean he
- 12:33Speaker 2: was the clear Packers number one. He played ninety seven
- 12:37Speaker 2: percent of snaps. The next was Golden at sixty six
- 12:39Speaker 2: with sixty three Like he's two receiver sets, three receiver sets,
- 12:44Speaker 2: he's on the field, and he's four k like he's
- 12:48Speaker 2: the third highest priced Packers receiver, Which doesn't make much sense.
- 12:51Speaker 2: But you know where the chalk is going. Why when
- 12:54Speaker 2: you do projected up or projected score, why is Dobs
- 12:57Speaker 2: up top? Easy to get Jacob's Daniels love and you
- 13:00Speaker 2: can build all star squad there. Just know if you're
- 13:03Speaker 2: doing that in large field tournaments, you probably want to
- 13:05Speaker 2: get different at one spot so you're not holding hands
- 13:07Speaker 2: with a bunch of people. I say we take it
- 13:10Speaker 2: in the captain mades. If you have anything else to add,
- 13:12Speaker 2: you can, But again, with fifty five percent of the
- 13:15Speaker 2: ownership being built around three guys, I think there's a handful.
- 13:18Speaker 2: I mentioned Terry Debo, Tucker Kraft, Golden like, there's enough
- 13:22Speaker 2: skill position players that I think you can get a
- 13:24Speaker 2: little different. Now do you want to do that and
- 13:27Speaker 2: then talk on Jordan Love captain too? Is there enough
- 13:29Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of rushing upside quarterbacks or at
- 13:31Speaker 2: least quarterbacks get there with their legs McCarthy, Klee of
- 13:35Speaker 2: Herbert Mahomes. Obviously Daniels can get there that way. I
- 13:38Speaker 2: would say Love has sneaky rushing upside as well. He'll
- 13:42Speaker 2: take it if the defense gives it to him. Talk
- 13:45Speaker 2: with Jordan Love, then what are you doing at the
- 13:46Speaker 2: captain position?
- 13:48Speaker 4: Yeah, so captain position obviously the big three? Right Daniels,
- 13:51Speaker 4: Jacob's in Love. I think this is a case where
- 13:54Speaker 4: you can play Love up in captain position. When do
- 13:56Speaker 4: I want to play quarterbacks over their pass catchers on
- 14:00Speaker 4: DraftKings where it's heavy PPR format? Is in an instance
- 14:03Speaker 4: like a Jordan Love where right in the first half,
- 14:06Speaker 4: I think he had nine different receivers right with a
- 14:08Speaker 4: catch at least there, so if he's spreading it out,
- 14:10Speaker 4: it's a lot less like a Dallas right with like
- 14:13Speaker 4: a Cdee Lamb up top, or like Cincinnati right where
- 14:16Speaker 4: Jamar Chase most of the time is kind of the
- 14:18Speaker 4: main guy that's going to get the ultimate ceiling performance.
- 14:21Speaker 4: It can definitely happen, but in this instance like that,
- 14:24Speaker 4: I'm more willing to play a Jordan Love. Not only that,
- 14:26Speaker 4: it's going to be direct leverage off of Josh Jacobs
- 14:29Speaker 4: as well, because I think Josh Jacobs is the captain
- 14:32Speaker 4: number two behind Jaden Daniels.
- 14:34Speaker 3: Can't really say much more about Jaden Daniels.
- 14:36Speaker 4: I mean, Packers historically have been dashed by rushing rushing quarterbacks. Now,
- 14:42Speaker 4: obviously the defense is different this year with Micah Parsons,
- 14:45Speaker 4: and not just the addition of him.
- 14:46Speaker 3: What it does for the rest of the defense.
- 14:48Speaker 4: It gives other guys more opportunities to just kind of
- 14:51Speaker 4: play and do their thing and be more forgot about
- 14:54Speaker 4: when you do have a Parsons. I get it, he's
- 14:55Speaker 4: not going to play every snap, but definitely had a
- 14:58Speaker 4: huge impact in Game one. Jaden Daniels that could lead
- 15:01Speaker 4: to more opportunities for him right to scramble. His rushing
- 15:05Speaker 4: prop is forty six and a half juice to the
- 15:07Speaker 4: over there, so very very good in terms of upside.
- 15:11Speaker 4: So not much more to say about Jayden Daniels. I
- 15:14Speaker 4: am slightly worried about Josh Jacobs. I think he's fine,
- 15:18Speaker 4: but I think I might tap into a little bit
- 15:21Speaker 4: more of in the captain position, the Washington side and
- 15:25Speaker 4: Jordan Love up top, just because I think more people
- 15:29Speaker 4: are going to go into Jacob's with the uncertainty, and
- 15:31Speaker 4: I might actually tap into the uncertainty a little bit
- 15:33Speaker 4: more with the Packers, with the flop Lake spots of
- 15:36Speaker 4: guys that have home run upside, like a Matthew Golden,
- 15:39Speaker 4: like a Jayden Reid who last week even the Giants
- 15:42Speaker 4: right miserable performance against these Commanders in week one, but
- 15:46Speaker 4: Wando Robinson did have a pretty good game out of
- 15:48Speaker 4: the slot there.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Jayden Reid I think has upside here. Everybody forgot about him.
- 15:52Speaker 4: He had the questionable take coming in last week, still
- 15:55Speaker 4: was fine, and everybody wants to go to Romeo Dobbs
- 15:58Speaker 4: do the price points. So for me, I'm gonna be
- 16:01Speaker 4: a little bit under on Jacobs. It's not a full
- 16:03Speaker 4: fade or an ex position or X thing like that.
- 16:05Speaker 4: I've been tapping into the portfolio diversity for sabers him
- 16:09Speaker 4: using in our stone.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Jacobs looks good on the stone.
- 16:13Speaker 4: It's just I think tapping into a Jordan Love and
- 16:16Speaker 4: maybe going like a Tucker Craft and not any pass
- 16:20Speaker 4: catchers or something like that in the flex.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Think a little ways like that to be different.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Maybe you play Jordan Love Josh Jacobs in like a
- 16:28Speaker 4: Craft or something like that, and then run it back
- 16:31Speaker 4: on the other side with pass catchers or Jaden Daniels
- 16:34Speaker 4: type thing. So Jaden Daniels for me hard to ignore.
- 16:37Speaker 4: He's gonna be my most exposed captain, just like everybody else.
- 16:40Speaker 4: But I think you can get different with him. Do
- 16:41Speaker 4: like a two to four Jayden Daniels up top, or
- 16:44Speaker 4: like a one to five if you if you see
- 16:46Speaker 4: it that way, or go Jaden Daniels and maybe like
- 16:48Speaker 4: the kicker or something in the flex and just say, hey,
- 16:51Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels spreads it around enough, does most of his work,
- 16:54Speaker 4: maybe runs in a touchdown or two, picks up his
- 16:57Speaker 4: sixty yards rushing on the ground, and that's enough to
- 16:59Speaker 4: do that. So not much more to say about those
- 17:02Speaker 4: three up top, and then my kind of sneakier options
- 17:04Speaker 4: at the captain position.
- 17:05Speaker 3: I think Terry McLaurin is definitely an interesting play.
- 17:09Speaker 4: I think more people are going to go to Deebo
- 17:10Speaker 4: Samuel there with the price discount and just the what
- 17:14Speaker 4: they're seeing from week one with the Commanders and Deebo
- 17:17Speaker 4: Samuel's work course and roll. Obviously, Deebo's done pretty well
- 17:21Speaker 4: against the Packers when he was on the forty nine Ers,
- 17:24Speaker 4: so I think Terry McLaurin still has the home run
- 17:26Speaker 4: upside there to contest, and maybe if Jaden Daniels does
- 17:30Speaker 4: get pressured right runs out of the pocket, you could
- 17:32Speaker 4: see some broken covers there and Terry McLaurin find his way.
- 17:35Speaker 4: All takes is for McLaurin one or two catches right
- 17:38Speaker 4: the bomb. He's the home run guy, so I like him.
- 17:40Speaker 4: And then on the Packers side, I think tapping into
- 17:43Speaker 4: Jayden Reid and Matthew Golden is the flop blay candidates.
- 17:46Speaker 4: I get it there's uncertainty there, but both of them
- 17:48Speaker 4: have a ceiling. Like I talked about, I think Jayden
- 17:50Speaker 4: Reid can do his magic out of the slot there
- 17:53Speaker 4: and on the outside last year the commanders were pretty
- 17:56Speaker 4: susceptible to the outside guys, which would boost at Golden there,
- 18:01Speaker 4: but nothing too much more to add from the captain position.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Yeah, hoop, I kind of want you to touch on this.
- 18:09Speaker 2: As the Lions fan, we thought it was the combination
- 18:12Speaker 2: of both. Like, I definitely think Green Bay's defense is
- 18:15Speaker 2: very much improved. But I mean, at the end of
- 18:17Speaker 2: the day, it's Jade and Daniels better, Oh can be better.
- 18:19Speaker 2: D With his legs, he can make a lot happen.
- 18:22Speaker 2: I did like what Nate said, Like, I'm gonna be
- 18:24Speaker 2: playing a lot of Daniels, even though he's the chalkiest
- 18:26Speaker 2: caption option. You can play him in so many different ways.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Him by himself because he runs it two or three times,
- 18:31Speaker 2: him with three commanders, because he spreads it around that way,
- 18:33Speaker 2: can do with his legs where his love. You put
- 18:36Speaker 2: him at captain more times than not. You probably want
- 18:39Speaker 2: at least two pass catchers, because yeah, while he can
- 18:42Speaker 2: scamper in and stuff, it's not like what he's known
- 18:45Speaker 2: to do. So that's why I like Daniels. And then
- 18:47Speaker 2: I will be playing a good amount of Jacobs minus
- 18:49Speaker 2: two hundred to score. No one else is better than
- 18:51Speaker 2: plus one thirty five on the slates seventy seven and
- 18:54Speaker 2: a half. Rushing prop props look really good on him,
- 18:56Speaker 2: and then looking at receivers and I'm throwing it to you,
- 19:00Speaker 2: receiver with the better receiving prop more than fifty five yards.
- 19:03Speaker 2: The Packers dobs forty one and a half, Craft forty
- 19:06Speaker 2: one and a half, Read thirty nine and a half,
- 19:08Speaker 2: Golden thirty five and a half. Obviously we can get outliers.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Do you see any of those happening at Captain? Will
- 19:14Speaker 2: you be playing any of those green Bay pass catchers?
- 19:16Speaker 2: What are you doing?
- 19:17Speaker 1: Yeah? So, in regards to the green Bay defense, are
- 19:21Speaker 1: that good or is Detroit that bad? With John, I
- 19:23Speaker 1: think it's probably somewhere in the middle. Like, do I
- 19:25Speaker 1: think their defense is so good that they are going
- 19:29Speaker 1: to hold team essentially six points? I mean, the last
- 19:32Speaker 1: touchdown by Teslo was a great catch, by the way,
- 19:34Speaker 1: but it's like a throwaway touchdown. The game's over at
- 19:36Speaker 1: that point. So I do think their defense is really good.
- 19:41Speaker 1: But I think the Lions offense could also be pretty
- 19:44Speaker 1: bad as well, So it's I don't know. I guess
- 19:46Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I do think green
- 19:48Speaker 1: Bay's defense is good. They're like TA top five overall
- 19:50Speaker 1: last year, so it's definitely a good defense. But the
- 19:53Speaker 1: one thing I will say in the NFL, a good
- 19:56Speaker 1: offense can definitely be a good defense. It doesn't matter
- 19:58Speaker 1: how good your defense is. A well oiled, solid offense
- 20:02Speaker 1: will crush a solid defense every single day of the week.
- 20:06Speaker 1: So that's that's my opinion there there. In regards to
- 20:09Speaker 1: the pass catchers and the low the low yardage lines
- 20:14Speaker 1: over unders in terms of the yards, like that is
- 20:17Speaker 1: the reason they're all going to be low owned up top,
- 20:20Speaker 1: Like no one's gonna want to embrace out a risk,
- 20:21Speaker 1: Like there's no one that stands out as a guy.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Maybe it's Debo, and I'm fine with him out there
- 20:26Speaker 1: just because of the versatility and how many different things
- 20:28Speaker 1: are can do on the field. But I kind of like,
- 20:31Speaker 1: I kind of like Terry tonight. I think it could
- 20:33Speaker 1: be a bounce back spot for him. Like last week
- 20:36Speaker 1: it all went to Debo, he got the job done.
- 20:38Speaker 1: They're gonna want Terry McLaurin involved in this offense, and
- 20:41Speaker 1: I think they kind of make a point to get
- 20:42Speaker 1: him going. So I'm good with that. I do struggle
- 20:44Speaker 1: with the Green Bay guys. I mean, you can definitely
- 20:46Speaker 1: take some chances, but like, I don't know who it
- 20:49Speaker 1: would be like if I did. Like the one that's
- 20:51Speaker 1: probably the most popular up there is probably Dobbs because
- 20:55Speaker 1: of the price tag. He's what four K, So you're
- 20:57Speaker 1: gonna be able to play him in Captain and get
- 21:01Speaker 1: a lot of you know, other solid options in there,
- 21:03Speaker 1: like Tucker Craft I'd probably be fine with. But I
- 21:07Speaker 1: could just go very consolidated up top. I haven't built
- 21:09Speaker 1: any teams. I could just kind of stick to the
- 21:12Speaker 1: main guys and hope it's one of them that gets
- 21:14Speaker 1: to the guys that I think have the most direct
- 21:17Speaker 1: path now. I think the Jordan Love stuff is a
- 21:19Speaker 1: good talking point as well, kind of for the reasons
- 21:22Speaker 1: that Nad's touched on, Like, if you do play him
- 21:24Speaker 1: up top, you probably want a couple of pass catchers
- 21:27Speaker 1: and you have a ton of options to go along
- 21:29Speaker 1: with them, so maybe you know, if it is a
- 21:31Speaker 1: Jordan Love Captain, the Dukes are a little bit less
- 21:34Speaker 1: just because of how many different combinations there are to
- 21:37Speaker 1: pair them with, including you know, tight End as well,
- 21:40Speaker 1: so and Jacobs. I mean, you can definitely pair them
- 21:43Speaker 1: with Jacobs too, if you're going Jordan Love captain. So
- 21:46Speaker 1: that is definitely one argument for the Jordan Love captain
- 21:49Speaker 1: is your options are endless. Like in terms of the
- 21:51Speaker 1: pass catchers, you can play them with the running back,
- 21:54Speaker 1: you can play them with the tight end. So that
- 21:55Speaker 1: does add some appeal from from a roster construction standpoint.
- 22:00Speaker 1: But I do struggle with identifying the Packers guys that
- 22:04Speaker 1: I want in the captain spot. Again, I might end
- 22:07Speaker 1: up just going pretty condensed up top and hope it's
- 22:10Speaker 1: one of the main dudes. But McLaurin is definitely the
- 22:13Speaker 1: one that stands out to me. I think, what are
- 22:15Speaker 1: we showing for ownership. He's down here six percent. I
- 22:19Speaker 1: think it could be lower. I think he could be
- 22:21Speaker 1: four percent of the captain or something, and I want
- 22:24Speaker 1: to be overweight on him captain tonight. For sure that
- 22:26Speaker 1: will be my one low owned kind of play up top.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm picking a Packer, I'm going Tucker Craft.
- 22:33Speaker 2: A lot of that has to do with him. He
- 22:34Speaker 2: played one hundred percent of snaps. I think he's one
- 22:36Speaker 2: of the best tight ends in football. Like the Dobbs stuff.
- 22:40Speaker 2: I'll be playing a lot at the flex for sure,
- 22:42Speaker 2: but I almost want to overspend. I think to get
- 22:44Speaker 2: a little less ownership with like a Golden, like I
- 22:47Speaker 2: feel a little better someone actually goes one hundred and
- 22:49Speaker 2: two today. Sure Dobbs can catch some long passes and stuff,
- 22:52Speaker 2: but I feel like it would be would be Golden
- 22:55Speaker 2: to break it there. It's harder for me to see
- 22:57Speaker 2: the Wicks who mixes in again at his price tag, like,
- 23:01Speaker 2: I just don't want to eat that chalk as much. Young,
- 23:03Speaker 2: explosive Golden has that big play upside. Him and Kraft
- 23:07Speaker 2: would be my favorite two pass catchers on the Packers' side.
- 23:10Speaker 2: McLaurin would be my favorite for Washington, but I could
- 23:13Speaker 2: see myself just alone having sixty percent Daniels and Jacob's
- 23:17Speaker 2: combine that captain today. They're by far my two favorite plays.
- 23:20Speaker 2: I think you can get different enough in the flex,
- 23:23Speaker 2: so I will definitely be eat in some chalk there.
- 23:25Speaker 2: But then after that, if you have like I'm playing
- 23:27Speaker 2: one fifty today, if I have three to five percent
- 23:30Speaker 2: of debo of Golden, of like seven guys of Eckler,
- 23:34Speaker 2: et cetera, I'm good with that. I do want to
- 23:37Speaker 2: throw I'll throw it two right to a running back coop.
- 23:39Speaker 2: You can take it to flex if you want. Talk
- 23:41Speaker 2: like you hadn't talk any running backs on the Commander side,
- 23:44Speaker 2: but the Eckler JCM stuff. So Eckler played majority in
- 23:48Speaker 2: the first half. JCM played a lot more in the
- 23:51Speaker 2: second half. They did healthy scratch c Rod, which was
- 23:54Speaker 2: very interesting. I guess you just assume they're gonna scratch
- 23:58Speaker 2: them today because mcnick took over the third down back roll.
- 24:02Speaker 2: But it feels like if you like, Eckler's the third
- 24:04Speaker 2: down back, if they're down fourteen points, he's probably the
- 24:07Speaker 2: one that's out there is the betterest pass catcher. Now
- 24:09Speaker 2: if the flip script kind of like Javonte Williams, maybe
- 24:13Speaker 2: if Merritt and the Commanders are up fourteen to nothing early,
- 24:16Speaker 2: like I assume he'd be on the field seventy percent
- 24:19Speaker 2: of the snaps or whatever it may be. So do
- 24:21Speaker 2: you see it that way? Kind of game script dependent?
- 24:23Speaker 2: Are you playing either of those two at captain? And
- 24:25Speaker 2: then yeah, what are you doing?
- 24:26Speaker 1: Running back in the flex have probably similar situation last year,
- 24:29Speaker 1: you know with Eckler when when they're all healthy, it's
- 24:32Speaker 1: like he's the guy that they're gonna use win down
- 24:34Speaker 1: or you know, two minute drill and then who was it?
- 24:37Speaker 1: Brian Robinson was like the touchdown, grind out the clock
- 24:41Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's probably the same thing. But for me,
- 24:45Speaker 1: I'm just gonna lean on DK scoring and say I'm
- 24:47Speaker 1: gonna play Eckler definitely over what what does he go by?
- 24:52Speaker 1: Bill or j CM, But however whatever we want to.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Roxy Merritt j CMS.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a lot of different options. So like
- 24:59Speaker 1: for for jac I guess that's what we'll go with.
- 25:01Speaker 1: Like he's got to find the end zone at seven K,
- 25:04Speaker 1: like he has to score a touchdown to be unoptimal
- 25:07Speaker 1: in my eyes, whereas Eckler, I think can get there
- 25:11Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. A bunch of catches touchdown.
- 25:15Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have way more Ecler than j CM.
- 25:19Speaker 1: He's like, to me, gamescript dependent. He's a hype name.
- 25:22Speaker 1: People are excited about him, they're talking about him on
- 25:24Speaker 1: social media. I think his ownership comes up for that reason.
- 25:29Speaker 1: So Eckler over JCM. And then with these cheap guys
- 25:33Speaker 1: like if I get some, I'm fine with it. And
- 25:35Speaker 1: then it really don't even need to talk about Jacob's
- 25:37Speaker 1: like he's clearly the top, you know, the most stable
- 25:40Speaker 1: skilled position guy in terms of projected fantasy points. He's
- 25:43Speaker 1: gonna be high owned. It's you know, whatever you can get,
- 25:46Speaker 1: you get. But my main thing at this position will
- 25:49Speaker 1: be Eckler over j CM, and he'll probably be a
- 25:53Speaker 1: pretty wide gap for me in terms of ownership between
- 25:56Speaker 1: those two. In favor of Eckler, Yeah.
- 26:00Speaker 2: It's tough for me. I might just get overweight on both.
- 26:02Speaker 2: The thing with JCM is he has a real price
- 26:05Speaker 2: tag at seven K, so does Eckler at six point
- 26:07Speaker 2: eight K. So I don't know how much I love
- 26:09Speaker 2: playing them together, but I do like getting overweight. Let's
- 26:12Speaker 2: see twenty four percent Ekler in the flex, five thirty
- 26:15Speaker 2: percent JCM eighteen. If I had twenty five and you
- 26:19Speaker 2: have them in different lineups, you're just hoping whatever game
- 26:21Speaker 2: script that you're building to, you should build those lineups differently.
- 26:25Speaker 2: They should tell a story. Again, Washington, I think they
- 26:27Speaker 2: played from ahead if JCM gets there. Eckler more likely
- 26:30Speaker 2: to get there if they played from behind. But yeah,
- 26:32Speaker 2: fifty percent ownership of both of them combined plus two
- 26:36Speaker 2: thirty five for Mayor to score, plus two to fifty
- 26:39Speaker 2: for Eckler. I'm gonna probably embrace that. The Packers stuff. Yeah,
- 26:45Speaker 2: Captain Golden, I like it. I like Captain Golden a
- 26:48Speaker 2: lot of upside. But we got to talk about Chris
- 26:50Speaker 2: Brooks cause there is RB two for the Packers stuff.
- 26:53Speaker 2: A lot of people thought it was Emanuel Wilson coming
- 26:56Speaker 2: in the year. Chris Brooks out snapped them nine to two. Now, yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 2: nine isn't very much, But the dude's four hundred dollars
- 27:02Speaker 2: Like that could be three touches thirty yards. But a
- 27:06Speaker 2: lot of random stuff can happen. I don't see very
- 27:08Speaker 2: many at all viable options like two hundred bucks. You're
- 27:13Speaker 2: talking like Malik Heath. He's not fun. Six hundred. There's
- 27:16Speaker 2: Baits Lane is one point six k. There's not much
- 27:20Speaker 2: down below. Brooks seems like the clear guy. He's gonna
- 27:23Speaker 2: be on the field some He's four hundred bucks. It
- 27:25Speaker 2: doesn't take too much. You can play him with Jacobs.
- 27:27Speaker 2: You can do a lot of stuff. So they should
- 27:29Speaker 2: have swapped his price in Wilson's. But I think you
- 27:32Speaker 2: have to have Brooks in your pool. I'll probably be
- 27:34Speaker 2: overweight to Brooks. I don't think it'll take too much.
- 27:36Speaker 1: On nine percent, just to add under Brooks too where
- 27:39Speaker 1: shot and I'm glad you mentioned the ownership there at
- 27:41Speaker 1: the end nine percent. These plays have come in much
- 27:44Speaker 1: lower own than projections recently on the chief guys. People
- 27:47Speaker 1: got accustomed to last season seeing that we don't need
- 27:50Speaker 1: the cheap guys because it was very few and far
- 27:53Speaker 1: between slates where you actually needed the cheap guys. These
- 27:55Speaker 1: chief guys have come in at lower ownership. I wouldn't
- 27:58Speaker 1: be surprised if it's six percent, and then if you
- 28:01Speaker 1: play ten you're double the field.
- 28:03Speaker 2: We'll see though, Yeah, well we will see. It's an
- 28:05Speaker 2: interesting spot for sure, because he has somewhat of a projection.
- 28:08Speaker 2: But you're right, like Dobb's being so cheap and no
- 28:10Speaker 2: we're brown Wicks. You don't have to go down there
- 28:12Speaker 2: if you don't want so. Yeah, you very well, Moup,
- 28:15Speaker 2: You're right. I'll be playing him regardless. Uh, And I
- 28:17Speaker 2: prefer Jacobs that captain and Flex either want him to
- 28:20Speaker 2: fully get there, not as much. I'll obviously have some
- 28:23Speaker 2: at Flex Nate's take away the running back room.
- 28:26Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm with Hoop. I'm going Eckler over over JCM.
- 28:30Speaker 4: I know ownership is pretty similar there. I can see
- 28:32Speaker 4: it shifting. I just know green Bay struggles with pass
- 28:36Speaker 4: catcher running backs. You saw it with GiB yesterday or
- 28:39Speaker 4: last week. Gibbs got all of his fantasy points basically
- 28:41Speaker 4: for his ten catches that he had almost a thirty
- 28:44Speaker 4: six percent target share?
- 28:46Speaker 3: Did Gibbs have in that game?
- 28:48Speaker 4: You look at last season numbers green Bay almost twenty
- 28:52Speaker 4: percent target share going to the opposing running backs. Eckler
- 28:54Speaker 4: fits that right there, and two hundred dollars different. I
- 28:58Speaker 4: think enough people look at Week one. I'm tapping into
- 29:02Speaker 4: the three and a half point dogs, not just because
- 29:04Speaker 4: I'm a Packers fan. I think this game is back
- 29:06Speaker 4: and forth. I also think I don't think it's a
- 29:09Speaker 4: game like last week right where Washington's up fourteen to
- 29:11Speaker 4: three at halftime, fourteen to six going into the fourth quarter, right,
- 29:15Speaker 4: and just can lean on JCM right as the workhorse
- 29:18Speaker 4: Brian Robinson type back. So in that instance and ownership
- 29:21Speaker 4: is fairly similar, I'm just gonna double the ownership and
- 29:23Speaker 4: go right to Eckler. I get the reasons for JCM.
- 29:26Speaker 4: I think you could play him, but you're a line
- 29:28Speaker 4: of pets to tell his story. If you're playing JACM.
- 29:30Speaker 4: I don't think JCM. If you think Green Bay hangs
- 29:34Speaker 4: around or wins this game, I think that benefits Eckler more.
- 29:38Speaker 4: If you're flipping the script and going Washington comes in,
- 29:40Speaker 4: Green Bay wins this game, right and maybe wins by
- 29:43Speaker 4: seven to ten points something like that. That's where I
- 29:45Speaker 4: would play more JCM over Eckler. With the Green Bay
- 29:48Speaker 4: cheap guys, you have to keep Chris Brooks in there.
- 29:52Speaker 3: I get it.
- 29:53Speaker 4: Jacobs is a workhorse, He's an awesome back, everything like that.
- 29:57Speaker 4: Dominated the stats. Played almost every snap last week, almost
- 30:01Speaker 4: every rush. But again, it's game two. They know Jacobs
- 30:06Speaker 4: is heavily involved and a pivotal piece to this offense
- 30:10Speaker 4: going forward. I have a hard time off a short
- 30:13Speaker 4: week so early in the season them just continue to
- 30:17Speaker 4: just give Jacobs every touch, Especially with the injuries that
- 30:22Speaker 4: they have to the rookie that they drafted last season
- 30:25Speaker 4: that sat out all the year.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Now he's injured again.
- 30:29Speaker 4: I can see more snaps and more touches coming to
- 30:32Speaker 4: Wilson and Brooks. I prefer Brooks at the price point,
- 30:36Speaker 4: but again, you can flip into tournaments if there was
- 30:38Speaker 4: I think more people go to Brooks there, so you
- 30:40Speaker 4: couldn't make the tournament. I'm just gonna tap into Brooks
- 30:44Speaker 4: from the running back position. So for me, it's Jacob's
- 30:46Speaker 4: Eckler is my main two. And then in scripts where
- 30:50Speaker 4: you think Washington's gonna win, that's where JCM would come in.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Otherwise I prefer Brooks.
- 30:55Speaker 2: Yeah, and again because that's three in that point. Dogs.
- 30:57Speaker 2: Right now we have Eckler five percent higher. I think
- 31:00Speaker 2: it probably stays true, but it's not hard. You can
- 31:02Speaker 2: go overweight Eckler and Merritt build it differently. You still
- 31:05Speaker 2: have some fade lineups, but you just hope one of
- 31:07Speaker 2: them get there. That's probably the approach I will take. Oop,
- 31:11Speaker 2: I see a little Golden ticket winner number six up?
- 31:13Speaker 2: Are we were doing that right now?
- 31:15Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make the announcement. Well, we'll announce the number
- 31:18Speaker 1: six now and then number seven at the end. So
- 31:22Speaker 1: the winner of Golden Ticket number six will be playing
- 31:25Speaker 1: me and I head to head. Big Naids stepped in
- 31:28Speaker 1: last week and got his ass kicked. I mean it
- 31:29Speaker 1: was so easy to beat Aids in the head to head.
- 31:31Speaker 1: I mean I built the team and it had to
- 31:34Speaker 1: have been like maybe ten seconds. Just click click, click,
- 31:37Speaker 1: zero effort, got the win. Move on to to want
- 31:41Speaker 1: to know, easy, easy victory. I know the winner of
- 31:45Speaker 1: ticket number six will put up a bigger fight than
- 31:47Speaker 1: the nads did last week. I'll you know, you can
- 31:51Speaker 1: come ahead and say something if you want, before I
- 31:52Speaker 1: put the name out there. He got anything to say?
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I did the exact same thing as you.
- 31:56Speaker 4: I sent you the on the lock he was uploaded,
- 32:02Speaker 4: and yeah, it took a stuting, freaking nineteen point performance
- 32:06Speaker 4: or whatever. He had to be a two points, so hey,
- 32:08Speaker 4: I'll give it to you. Jonathan Taylor kicked me where
- 32:12Speaker 4: the sun don't shine again in the cash lineup and
- 32:14Speaker 4: the regular teams. But yeah, hoops there, the career long
- 32:18Speaker 4: cash player, you were the minus twelve fifty favorite.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Retired cash winner got the job done. I guess I
- 32:26Speaker 1: still have the talent. Maybe I should hop back into
- 32:28Speaker 1: the streets. We'll see. But the winner ticket number six.
- 32:32Speaker 3: It is boom, boom, boom and.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Boom Thomas mccant's I believe that's how you pronounced it,
- 32:43Speaker 1: Thomas McCants. So he'll be facing me, and I had
- 32:46Speaker 1: to have. If he wins, he gets two hundred and
- 32:48Speaker 1: fifty dollars either way he was. He's into the final
- 32:51Speaker 1: at the end with the fifty contestants, So congress, Thomas
- 32:55Speaker 1: look forward to playing you that I had to have
- 32:57Speaker 1: hit me up in the discord and we'll get that,
- 33:00Speaker 1: will get the contest setup. So congratulations Thomas McCann's awesome stuff.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Congrats to Thomas McCanns. Again, you don't need you didn't
- 33:09Speaker 2: need to join before the year you had more ballots,
- 33:11Speaker 2: you have more opportunity to get in. But even if
- 33:14Speaker 2: you sign up right now week two, then you get
- 33:16Speaker 2: two ship at tickets for week two, three for the
- 33:19Speaker 2: next week. You're not behind the eight ball too much.
- 33:22Speaker 2: And again, yeah, Thomas, even if he does lose the hoop,
- 33:24Speaker 2: I think he think he's gonna get hoops here this
- 33:26Speaker 2: week though Naid's little easy competition, who might be a
- 33:30Speaker 2: little lax build it in ten seconds against Thomas, I
- 33:33Speaker 2: don't think the same thing will happen. But hey, to fifty,
- 33:35Speaker 2: if you win that free roll, even if you don't,
- 33:38Speaker 2: you have a chance at twenty k you're in the
- 33:40Speaker 2: final fifty, so big congrats to you. And at the
- 33:43Speaker 2: end of the show, in about thirty minutes, the big
- 33:45Speaker 2: one number seven, the chance to build a tambo in
- 33:48Speaker 2: the five to fifty five millie and again ten percent
- 33:51Speaker 2: of that one hundred k. I promise you will be
- 33:54Speaker 2: happy if you think that, and everyone at ship in
- 33:56Speaker 2: Nation because that seventy k in prizes and cash only
- 33:59Speaker 2: go up. So grats you, Thomas M. What if you win,
- 34:05Speaker 2: you get to pick your head to head upon it. No, no, no,
- 34:08Speaker 2: you got the hoopster, come for the big dog regardless.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I'm want to know going to extend to two and oh?
- 34:12Speaker 2: This week I set the line at seven. I think
- 34:15Speaker 2: you yeah, I said, I said, what is there seventeen?
- 34:18Speaker 2: So ten and seven? I sent the line at nine
- 34:20Speaker 2: and a half. So I mean, if if you want
- 34:21Speaker 2: any side action, last week.
- 34:23Speaker 1: It was an official win. So want to know. So
- 34:25Speaker 1: we just need nine more victories to hit the over.
- 34:28Speaker 2: So everyone would just pick win and pick on Neate's
- 34:32Speaker 2: who already set the trend. Everyone got Yo, give me
- 34:34Speaker 2: Nate's head to head. Now we'll talk some. We'll talk some.
- 34:37Speaker 2: Fando at the Andrea. Yeah, don't you worry. Let's talk.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Let's go into the wide receiver room. Who went last
- 34:45Speaker 2: at running back? May I'll throw it to you. You
- 34:47Speaker 2: got the packers. You talk about this mess of a
- 34:50Speaker 2: packer's wide receiver room again, Dobbs ninety seven percent of
- 34:53Speaker 2: snap the Golden wis read all little bout fifty leek.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Keith got in at the end for a little bit
- 34:59Speaker 2: as well, but mainly a foreheaded monster. Reid Wix, Golden Dobbs.
- 35:03Speaker 2: How do we play them? Is there any groups you
- 35:05Speaker 2: would avoid? What are we doing? And then talk about
- 35:07Speaker 2: commander side too?
- 35:09Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll start with Romeo Dobbs. Hard to ignore
- 35:11Speaker 4: his price point there. Just know when you are playing Dobbs,
- 35:14Speaker 4: it's going to be popular there, So looking to be
- 35:16Speaker 4: a little bit different when you do play Dobbs.
- 35:19Speaker 3: It is something to tap into there.
- 35:21Speaker 4: The thing that stands out to me here is Golden
- 35:23Speaker 4: stuck in no man's land. He's literally sandwiched between Tucker
- 35:28Speaker 4: Craft and the other guy. I mean, you look at
- 35:32Speaker 4: Golden right sixty four hundred, You got Jayden Rat at
- 35:35Speaker 4: eight to two, you got Eckler at sixty eight hundred.
- 35:37Speaker 3: I think more people are going to tap into those
- 35:40Speaker 3: guys there.
- 35:40Speaker 4: So I think many more, much more people are just
- 35:44Speaker 4: willing to click on Tucker Craft and Romeo Dobbs after
- 35:48Speaker 4: the kind of reassurance from week one, right in terms
- 35:51Speaker 4: of snap counts, in terms of participation and everything, I
- 35:54Speaker 4: think Golden is still has upside.
- 35:56Speaker 3: They went out and.
- 35:58Speaker 4: Drafted him first time they took a wide receiver in
- 36:00Speaker 4: round one, and they like this guy.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Right, Maybe it's.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Gonna take some time for him to get under This
- 36:07Speaker 4: is a perfect time when nobody is on him to
- 36:10Speaker 4: jump back on the ship. I will say he directly
- 36:13Speaker 4: correlates with Dontavian Wicks. When Wis was on the field,
- 36:16Speaker 4: Golden was not pretty much. I wouldn't set probably a
- 36:20Speaker 4: hard set rule because Golden sixty four hundred and Wix
- 36:23Speaker 4: is only thirty six hundred. But I wouldn't be worried
- 36:26Speaker 4: or just weary of how many lineups you do play
- 36:30Speaker 4: with those two together, because they do kind of negative
- 36:33Speaker 4: impact each other. I'm debating in my twenty max stuff
- 36:36Speaker 4: to set a rule to avoid it, just to get
- 36:38Speaker 4: a little bit different there, because I think at the
- 36:41Speaker 4: thirty six hundred dollars price point that he will hit
- 36:46Speaker 4: more teams just projections wise alone. But I say all
- 36:49Speaker 4: that to say Wix is the pivot right there off
- 36:51Speaker 4: of Romeo Dobs.
- 36:52Speaker 3: So if you aren't playing.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Maybe you go Jayden Reid and a Wix instead of
- 36:56Speaker 4: a Dobs in a Craft or something like that, and
- 36:59Speaker 4: it flips build a little bit there. From the wide
- 37:01Speaker 4: receiver room, I'm not messing with the Malie Keith, the
- 37:05Speaker 4: Williams of the world. I'm not messing with those guys.
- 37:07Speaker 4: So from a pass catcher perspective, Golden's my favorite, Jaden
- 37:11Speaker 4: Reid's my second favorite. Then Dobbs, then Wicks, and then
- 37:14Speaker 4: tight end. Uh, we'll go into the tight end next,
- 37:16Speaker 4: but yeah, that's from the Packers wide receiver stuff. And
- 37:19Speaker 4: then on the commander's side, I really like Terry McLaurin,
- 37:24Speaker 4: like I talked about, I like him more up at
- 37:26Speaker 4: the captive position because it feels like if Terry gets there,
- 37:28Speaker 4: he gets all the way there. So at nine K
- 37:30Speaker 4: I'd rather play Deebo Samuel I think in the flex
- 37:33Speaker 4: over Terry, which is gonna be the more popular take,
- 37:35Speaker 4: but they're gonna be similar enough in terms of ownership.
- 37:37Speaker 4: We got him right there, pretty similar, right next to
- 37:39Speaker 4: each other. So I prefer Debo in the flex over
- 37:41Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin. McLaurin up top more and then the other guys.
- 37:46Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I'm not too enthused to play
- 37:50Speaker 4: these other guys here. Noah Brown, I think is the
- 37:53Speaker 4: is the next guy that comes up, just in terms
- 37:56Speaker 4: of his price, his value. He was involved last week,
- 38:00Speaker 4: but I do have a sleeper here from the Washington side.
- 38:04Speaker 4: He's sixteen hundred dollars. It's their rookie Jalen Lane that
- 38:07Speaker 4: they drafted. He got involved a little bit last week,
- 38:10Speaker 4: had two targets, one catch there.
- 38:12Speaker 3: He is the outside guy.
- 38:13Speaker 4: I think he's going to line up when he plays
- 38:15Speaker 4: the opposite side of what Terry McLaurin is. I think
- 38:18Speaker 4: he's going to eat into if Noah Brown's not out there,
- 38:21Speaker 4: which he's going to be out there more. I think
- 38:23Speaker 4: tapping into their rookie here, Jalen Lane, sixteen hundred dollars.
- 38:27Speaker 4: He's a home run guy. I think they drafted him
- 38:29Speaker 4: in the fourth round, so I don't mind him at
- 38:32Speaker 4: sixteen hundred dollars. It's kind of a no man's land
- 38:34Speaker 4: down there. Luke Musgrave Wilson, I mean, there's really nobody
- 38:38Speaker 4: down there behind but below Noah Brown, so I don't
- 38:41Speaker 4: mind taking a stab on him in the flax in
- 38:43Speaker 4: large field stuff as a value.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a couple of people are talking Noah
- 38:48Speaker 2: Brown is wide receiver three, which is true, but he
- 38:50Speaker 2: had thirty three snaps forty seven percent. Jale Lane had
- 38:53Speaker 2: twenty one snaps, Chris Moore had nineteen, so you can
- 38:56Speaker 2: see there is some sort of a mix after Deebo
- 38:59Speaker 2: and Terry mclaur and I do think it is Noah
- 39:00Speaker 2: Brown three, and that's how ownership has it, That's how
- 39:04Speaker 2: props have it. But it's by no means just those
- 39:07Speaker 2: three playing every single snap. Lane and possibly more will
- 39:10Speaker 2: get involved a little bits. I prefer running backs quarterbacks
- 39:14Speaker 2: to the receivers in general today who Dobbs is the
- 39:17Speaker 2: one that clearly looks like the miss price, but after that,
- 39:20Speaker 2: they all seem pretty efficiently priced. I don't know, I'm
- 39:23Speaker 2: really curious to hear your takes. What you're doing with
- 39:24Speaker 2: the flex at wide receivers.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's tough. I mean, there's not gonna
- 39:28Speaker 1: be anything like wild or strong take for me. I mean,
- 39:32Speaker 1: the one is definitely McLaurin. I like, and I want
- 39:35Speaker 1: to make him a priority tonight, and he's boom bust.
- 39:38Speaker 1: So yeah, probably better in the captain. But I want
- 39:40Speaker 1: him in the Flex as well. I want him in
- 39:42Speaker 1: Jaden Daniel Captain teams. Like I think a lot of
- 39:45Speaker 1: people will go Debo over McLaurin. He's cheaper and he
- 39:49Speaker 1: had the better week one, so I think that's just
- 39:51Speaker 1: a play a lot of people are gonna make. I
- 39:53Speaker 1: want to prioritize McLaurin. So that's probably my strongest take.
- 39:56Speaker 1: I guess at when looking at these wide receivers with
- 40:00Speaker 1: the Packers guys, I mean, I don't know. I'm just
- 40:03Speaker 1: gonna play them, like, especially if I have Jordan Love Captain.
- 40:06Speaker 1: I want exposure to all these guys just because it
- 40:09Speaker 1: could be anyone. Like, I don't know who it's going
- 40:11Speaker 1: to be. I don't think any of us know. I
- 40:12Speaker 1: don't think anyone out there knows who it's going to be.
- 40:14Speaker 1: The one thing I think is interesting, I don't know
- 40:17Speaker 1: how I'm gonna play it, But Jayden Reid at eighty
- 40:19Speaker 1: two hundred, I don't think people are going to want
- 40:20Speaker 1: to play Jayden Reid at eighty two hundred. You got
- 40:23Speaker 1: Dobbs at four K, you got Wix at thirty six,
- 40:26Speaker 1: you got Golden at sixty four. We're showing twenty five
- 40:30Speaker 1: percent on Jaden Reid. I think it could be lower
- 40:33Speaker 1: than that because of how all these other cheap guys
- 40:37Speaker 1: are in the conversation. So that kind of stands out
- 40:39Speaker 1: is interesting. I don't even know if I love it.
- 40:41Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I love playing
- 40:43Speaker 1: Jayden Reid at eighty two, but his ownership has to
- 40:46Speaker 1: has to come down a little bit because of the
- 40:48Speaker 1: price tag and how cheap all these other options are,
- 40:52Speaker 1: So you know, that's that's a standout. I don't know.
- 40:54Speaker 1: I could maybe just fade it, or I'd play it
- 40:56Speaker 1: and go over weight. I haven't decided yet on Jayden Reid,
- 40:59Speaker 1: but I think it's I think it is somewhat interesting
- 41:01Speaker 1: that he's just way more expensive, and I don't think
- 41:04Speaker 1: his role really dictates that he should have a much
- 41:07Speaker 1: higher price tag. Good with the cheap guys. I like
- 41:09Speaker 1: the Laye call, good with Noah Brown, good with Wicks.
- 41:14Speaker 1: But again, my main thing is probably going to be
- 41:17Speaker 1: overweight on Scary Terry and to see what happens. He's
- 41:20Speaker 1: a boom bust sort of play, like he can go
- 41:22Speaker 1: go off and break the sligh or he could get
- 41:24Speaker 1: like three fantasy points, and that's kind of what you
- 41:26Speaker 1: want for a showdown. You want the boom bust nature,
- 41:30Speaker 1: and I think Terry's perfect for a showdown sort of play.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, to be honest, a lot
- 41:34Speaker 2: of these receivers are in the fact of outside of
- 41:38Speaker 2: Romeo at his price tag, like Deebo gets you a ten,
- 41:40Speaker 2: it might not be enough. Terry gets you a ten,
- 41:42Speaker 2: it might not be enough. Yeah, And then all the
- 41:44Speaker 2: other guys, like Reid's price tag is absurd eighty two hundred,
- 41:47Speaker 2: then Wicks will outsnap him like Reid only plays in
- 41:50Speaker 2: three receiver sets. He's dealing with his foot injury that
- 41:53Speaker 2: he's probably it sounds like in to try and deal
- 41:55Speaker 2: with all years. So who knows how much they overextend
- 41:58Speaker 2: him there. The good thing about him as he will
- 42:00Speaker 2: have design plays called for him in the red zone,
- 42:03Speaker 2: like last week he got three targets. He converted on
- 42:05Speaker 2: one of them. If he doesn't get in the box today,
- 42:08Speaker 2: though it feels very thin that he's Optimore at that.
- 42:10Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost like a running like a
- 42:13Speaker 1: running back that's dependent on touchdowns, like Jaden Reid at
- 42:16Speaker 1: eighty two hundred. It's a wide receiver that's dependent on
- 42:19Speaker 1: touchdowns and makes it even more risky because it's not like,
- 42:22Speaker 1: you know, you get to the one yard line you
- 42:24Speaker 1: have a touchdown dependent running back. You know he's going
- 42:26Speaker 1: to get the opportunity, like Jaden Reid has to make
- 42:29Speaker 1: a play somewhere probably to be an optimal and even so,
- 42:32Speaker 1: like if he only has two catches thirty yards in touchdown,
- 42:35Speaker 1: that's probably not enough either. So you know, maybe he's
- 42:37Speaker 1: a fade on this slate, and we do hope that
- 42:39Speaker 1: the twenty five percent ownership holds true and you know,
- 42:43Speaker 1: you beat the field on the fate.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably my least favorite of the Wicks stops
- 42:48Speaker 2: Golden personally one name I'll throw out and I don't
- 42:51Speaker 2: even know if I'm to play any It's really just
- 42:53Speaker 2: one fifty stuff one case saveon Williams, the rookie out
- 42:57Speaker 2: of TCU. I know doll that bills some college guys
- 42:59Speaker 2: watch was really happy when we drafted him. The reason
- 43:02Speaker 2: I'm mentioning him is he he's going to be completely unknown,
- 43:04Speaker 2: like less than one percent possibly, but they got him
- 43:08Speaker 2: involved in the first drive. He had a design run
- 43:10Speaker 2: and end around with him. He's athletic, he's good with
- 43:13Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. Again, it could only be
- 43:15Speaker 2: a couple snaps. More than likely, he is absolutely not
- 43:18Speaker 2: on the optimal But for one K at less than
- 43:21Speaker 2: one percent ownership, I wouldn't be shocked. I'm very bullish
- 43:24Speaker 2: on him. Again, he's in a loaded Packers receiving room,
- 43:27Speaker 2: which is the problem. But anyone that they're willing to
- 43:29Speaker 2: get a handoff to, especially rookie like that early in
- 43:32Speaker 2: last week's game, I think it's interesting. They're big play guys.
- 43:35Speaker 2: So other than that, it's I prefer tight ends. I
- 43:39Speaker 2: prefer Craft and ERTs. I prefer Jacobs, I prefer Eckler,
- 43:42Speaker 2: I prefer the quarterbacks. Like I don't love the receivers
- 43:45Speaker 2: as much as I've liked to start a lot of
- 43:47Speaker 2: the Island games, just because of how many there are
- 43:50Speaker 2: and all of them efficiently priced. Outside of Dobbs Hoop,
- 43:53Speaker 2: I'll just throw to you to tight end. I mean,
- 43:54Speaker 2: I think Craft's a phenomenal play. I like him more
- 43:57Speaker 2: than all of our Packers wide receivers and Ertz Earths
- 44:01Speaker 2: is a beast. Still shows the chemistry with Jaiden Daniels
- 44:04Speaker 2: in Week one. If you're taking shots on Musgrave or
- 44:07Speaker 2: Sonad or Sims. You can let me know, I don't
- 44:10Speaker 2: really plan on doing so, give me a lot of Ertz,
- 44:12Speaker 2: give me Kraft, give me the tight ends.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much the same thing. I mean, the one
- 44:17Speaker 1: thing about Tucker Kraft, which is nice and I know
- 44:20Speaker 1: one of you guys already touched on it's a valid point.
- 44:22Speaker 1: It's like, you don't got to worry about him not
- 44:24Speaker 1: being on the field because he is going to be
- 44:26Speaker 1: on the field. With those wide receivers, you have to
- 44:28Speaker 1: worry a little bit whether or not they're actually going
- 44:30Speaker 1: to be on the field because they're cycling so many people,
- 44:33Speaker 1: so many guys through with a tight end. Like you
- 44:36Speaker 1: know Craft's going to be out there, and you know
- 44:39Speaker 1: you can kind of apply the same thing to Zach Ertz.
- 44:42Speaker 1: You know he's going to be out there as well,
- 44:44Speaker 1: and you know they're not really running too much in
- 44:47Speaker 1: regards to other tight ends. I mean, Musgrave is fine,
- 44:51Speaker 1: but it's twenty four hundred. It's not like it's a
- 44:53Speaker 1: two hundred play, two hundred dollars play where if he
- 44:55Speaker 1: gets a catch for twelve yards you might have a
- 44:57Speaker 1: chance to be on there. Like at twenty four hundred.
- 45:00Speaker 1: It's got to do a little bit more. I do
- 45:02Speaker 1: remember him being out on the field. Did he have
- 45:04Speaker 1: a catch? Well, yeah, one that he did catch last
- 45:07Speaker 1: week for falls exactly so four yards one catch, Like
- 45:11Speaker 1: it's not all that exciting. But Craft and Erth's for sure.
- 45:15Speaker 1: And definitely those guys in teams where there their quarterbacks
- 45:19Speaker 1: are the captain Jayden Daniels captain teams. I think Urk's
- 45:23Speaker 1: a great play and then same for Craft with Jordan
- 45:25Speaker 1: Love captain teams. And it's just those two though. I mean,
- 45:28Speaker 1: you don't really need to mess with the other ones.
- 45:30Speaker 1: You can if you want, but you know it's primarily
- 45:33Speaker 1: those two.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Yeah, Like other guys that got snaps forty nine percent
- 45:38Speaker 2: for Musgrave, he had seventeen percent of snaps when they
- 45:40Speaker 2: two tight end and use him as a blocker a lot.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick was in for fifteen snaps, again mainly blocker. The
- 45:47Speaker 2: one that did see significant though is John Bates. Again
- 45:50Speaker 2: we're talking blocking on Washington for the most part, but
- 45:53Speaker 2: fifty three percent of snaps for John Baits at six hundred.
- 45:57Speaker 2: You don't need a ton I guess again, I don't
- 45:59Speaker 2: love the up side. I prefer Brooks at two hundred,
- 46:02Speaker 2: and I think I prefer save on over all these
- 46:04Speaker 2: guys that we talked about, just because one play, I
- 46:07Speaker 2: feel like he can get me six seven. He actually
- 46:09Speaker 2: has explosiveness, whereas Musgrave can't stay in his feet, baits,
- 46:12Speaker 2: we know what he is, etc. But I think we'd
- 46:15Speaker 2: be doing a disservice not to mention other guys that
- 46:18Speaker 2: will be on the field. Musgrave baits a little bit
- 46:21Speaker 2: of Fitzpatrick aids, do you have any interest in any
- 46:24Speaker 2: of those guys? And then how much Craft Earth do
- 46:25Speaker 2: you think you'll have?
- 46:27Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 46:27Speaker 4: So I like Kraft ERTs a lot at their price
- 46:29Speaker 4: points in that mid tier because you look at Craft right,
- 46:32Speaker 4: he's gonna get played, but it's going to be held.
- 46:34Speaker 4: Somebody to check with Ertz right there in that range.
- 46:37Speaker 4: And then the Kickers, right, everybody looks at these primetime
- 46:39Speaker 4: Island games. We've been team Kicker pretty much ever since
- 46:42Speaker 4: we've kind of initiated it and been doing these shows.
- 46:46Speaker 4: But again, everybody's starting to catch on more. That's going
- 46:50Speaker 4: to be more of a conversation when we start talking
- 46:51Speaker 4: defense there. But I think it goes with the tight
- 46:54Speaker 4: ends because the tight ends are usually priced right in
- 46:55Speaker 4: that range there. So I think Craft and ERTs are
- 46:58Speaker 4: incredible plays. It's going to be lower own than Craft.
- 47:01Speaker 4: In a script, I do want to mention this too.
- 47:04Speaker 4: I mean, both these teams pretty much beat their opponents
- 47:08Speaker 4: in Week one pretty handily, so we can't take too
- 47:11Speaker 4: much because again that's where I just the Packers didn't.
- 47:14Speaker 3: Have to throw it on.
- 47:14Speaker 4: I mean they were up what seventeen to three and
- 47:16Speaker 4: a half seventeen to six going into the fourth quarter.
- 47:19Speaker 3: They're not going to drop back, right.
- 47:20Speaker 4: The Packers will take the air out of the football
- 47:22Speaker 4: with Josh Jacobs and lean on him heavy, which he
- 47:24Speaker 4: saw in Week one. I don't think they're willing or
- 47:27Speaker 4: going to be able to do that as much in
- 47:29Speaker 4: this game. I think Washington is a better football team.
- 47:31Speaker 4: They have Jayden Daniels who can make plays. And then
- 47:34Speaker 4: same thing with the Commanders, right, Russell Wilson sucks at football,
- 47:37Speaker 4: so it's hard to keep up with the Commanders win.
- 47:40Speaker 4: You got Russell Wilson as your quarterback and he goes
- 47:42Speaker 4: seventeen to thirty seven front through the air there, so
- 47:45Speaker 4: they had to pass. They weren't successful because Russell Wilson sucks.
- 47:49Speaker 4: I think that'll be a different case. If the Packers
- 47:51Speaker 4: do make Washington have to pass more, you can see
- 47:54Speaker 4: more of these guys, even the wide receivers that we
- 47:56Speaker 4: talked about, get more involved there. So I want to
- 48:00Speaker 4: mention that, and then yeah, I don't I don't want
- 48:03Speaker 4: to play Baits, but he has been on the field.
- 48:05Speaker 4: I still prefer Jalen Lane and Chris Brooks much more.
- 48:08Speaker 4: I like your call on Savian Williams too, so I
- 48:10Speaker 4: like those guys in that in that range. And I
- 48:13Speaker 4: just don't know how much salary you actually need on
- 48:15Speaker 4: this slate. Pricing has been pretty soft all season long.
- 48:18Speaker 4: I don't really know how much of these two hundred
- 48:20Speaker 4: four hundred, six hundred dollars guys you need to get to.
- 48:22Speaker 4: I'd much go more to a solidified role like at
- 48:25Speaker 4: Chris Brooks is a running back to backup, or a
- 48:27Speaker 4: Jayden Lane who had shots to have a big game
- 48:30Speaker 4: in Week one they drafted him high.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Same thing.
- 48:33Speaker 4: It's kind of the Savian Williams play of the Commanders,
- 48:36Speaker 4: but not much more to add Hoop.
- 48:38Speaker 2: I'll take it to kicker and defense. It looks like
- 48:41Speaker 2: kickers will be about double the ownership on both sides
- 48:44Speaker 2: to the respective defense, pricing still seems a little too
- 48:47Speaker 2: close on them. I think Kicker is probably a little underpriced.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Defense is probably a little overpriced. But yeah, I mean,
- 48:56Speaker 2: if you see a solo shipper less than five dupes
- 48:58Speaker 2: up top, first thing I would think of is defenses
- 49:01Speaker 2: have a decent chance of getting there because even what
- 49:03Speaker 2: we haven't projected at, people just don't like clicking them,
- 49:06Speaker 2: and rightfully so if you look at the past year sampled,
- 49:09Speaker 2: but you take it before that, defenses were smashing at
- 49:11Speaker 2: a pretty high rate. I like Kickers today. I think
- 49:15Speaker 2: Packers' defense is interesting personally. Daniels can take some stacks
- 49:19Speaker 2: if you can't avoid it, but I don't love the
- 49:21Speaker 2: Commander's defense is how I see it. Any hot takes
- 49:24Speaker 2: at Kickers.
- 49:25Speaker 1: And D's no, I mean, Kickers are just still underpriced,
- 49:29Speaker 1: and it just seems like they're always in contention to
- 49:32Speaker 1: be on optimal, not always, I mean, obviously things happen,
- 49:34Speaker 1: but it just doesn't take much for them to be there,
- 49:37Speaker 1: and twelve to fifteen fantasy points at around five k
- 49:41Speaker 1: like if they get there their usual I'd like to
- 49:44Speaker 1: know the numbers, and I'm sure people that dig into this.
- 49:46Speaker 1: But if a kicker gets twelve to fifteen, like, what
- 49:49Speaker 1: are their chances of being on optimal? Like, and I
- 49:52Speaker 1: think it's really really high. Like, I think it's really
- 49:54Speaker 1: high because you're talking about probably a lower scoring game,
- 49:57Speaker 1: so they're not competing with the skill position players as
- 50:00Speaker 1: much because it's gonna probably be a low scoring game
- 50:03Speaker 1: where offenses are stalling, you know, when they get close
- 50:06Speaker 1: to the red zone. So when they have the big games,
- 50:10Speaker 1: like everything in terms of roster construction is good for
- 50:14Speaker 1: a kicker. So I just think they're really good players.
- 50:16Speaker 1: I think they're always under priced in on them defense, Like, yeah,
- 50:20Speaker 1: I definitely don't like the Commander's Packers. I think have
- 50:23Speaker 1: a good defense, but I don't love the matchup here
- 50:27Speaker 1: with the running quarterback in Jade and Daniels. So I'll
- 50:31Speaker 1: just be doing my same thing, like if I get
- 50:34Speaker 1: some cool, if I don't cool.
- 50:36Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I'll have you pull up FanDuel
- 50:39Speaker 2: when Nate talks about defense kickers quick. But I need
- 50:41Speaker 2: you to answer this very very good question in terms
- 50:45Speaker 2: of food that we like bringing up craft Velvet.
- 50:48Speaker 1: To hoop Man. This is tough because I am a
- 50:51Speaker 1: Mac and cheese guy. I like both, but man, I
- 50:55Speaker 1: just got to go with the original Craft. It's just
- 50:57Speaker 1: it's so solid. And actually it's funny because I think
- 51:00Speaker 1: I had it for dinner like two nights ago, because
- 51:02Speaker 1: we're heading out the door. My son had basketball or
- 51:04Speaker 1: baseball practice, so had to eat something real quick. Fired
- 51:08Speaker 1: up a back box of Kraft Mac and cheese and
- 51:11Speaker 1: I was eating it. I'm like, you know what for
- 51:13Speaker 1: like the price and everything like, this is a this
- 51:15Speaker 1: is a quality meal. So I'm gonna go to the
- 51:17Speaker 1: original Craft. I like Alvida as well. I like Velveta
- 51:21Speaker 1: as well.
- 51:21Speaker 2: You throw any hot dogs or tuna or anything like
- 51:24Speaker 2: that in.
- 51:24Speaker 1: There, No hell though, man, just the straight up mac
- 51:27Speaker 1: and cheese. My missus Hoop does like the catch up
- 51:30Speaker 1: in there, and it's man, I like that, that's disgusting.
- 51:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about about that one, Maids. I
- 51:37Speaker 2: don't know. If you have a take on Craft Velveta,
- 51:39Speaker 2: then take us into I already think Valveda from how
- 51:41Speaker 2: you responded facially to Hoop and then talk about Kickers these.
- 51:45Speaker 4: So I like both the I'm with Hoop there, but
- 51:47Speaker 4: I'm definitely team Balveda over Craft. I will say this
- 51:50Speaker 4: might be a hot take. I'll probably get slammered on it.
- 51:52Speaker 4: Not many people are peace fans. But the time I
- 51:55Speaker 4: like to eat, peas are actually in mac and cheese.
- 51:58Speaker 3: And cheese good.
- 52:00Speaker 4: Or I like the buffalo to the buffalo hot hot
- 52:05Speaker 4: tuna packs and you put that in that mac and cheese,
- 52:08Speaker 4: make a little buffalo mac that that's pretty good there.
- 52:11Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm laughing.
- 52:12Speaker 1: At this was my reaction to like hot dogs, Tyler.
- 52:17Speaker 2: So hot dogs and there. That's like the kid of
- 52:20Speaker 2: all kid meals. And tuna tuna is very good for you.
- 52:23Speaker 2: You throw a little tuna different. I can see that.
- 52:28Speaker 1: I'm supposed I'm supposed to have the bad food takes.
- 52:31Speaker 1: And you guys took that.
- 52:33Speaker 2: It's like a it's like a four year old. He
- 52:35Speaker 2: just wants his plain mac and she's zero substance anything,
- 52:38Speaker 2: Get some tuna, get some something in there.
- 52:40Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad, dad's in the chat.
- 52:44Speaker 4: Maybe it's my mom from an early age, right, she
- 52:46Speaker 4: throws the peas in there. She loves peas. I'm not
- 52:48Speaker 4: a huge fan. I don't eat it all the time,
- 52:50Speaker 4: but occasionally.
- 52:52Speaker 3: I'll throw them.
- 52:52Speaker 1: Started. I can see you started at a young age
- 52:54Speaker 1: like that's a way to get the young kids to
- 52:57Speaker 1: eat their veggies, tossing in something they like, So it
- 52:59Speaker 1: makes sense. You just kind of get used to it.
- 53:01Speaker 4: Definitely, the Buffalo the buffalo flavor too, is definitely my
- 53:04Speaker 4: go to a little buffalo mac.
- 53:05Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
- 53:06Speaker 4: But yeah, jumping into defenses here, I think Packers defense
- 53:10Speaker 4: with Jacob's Captain teams is pretty interesting.
- 53:12Speaker 3: Nobody's going to play the defenses.
- 53:13Speaker 4: We saw the game go over on Monday and Bears
- 53:16Speaker 4: defense being the optimal it was actually the optimal captain
- 53:18Speaker 4: and a lot of the large field stuff. When the
- 53:20Speaker 4: Vikings score twenty seven points right again, it takes one
- 53:23Speaker 4: scoop and score one pick six to the house and
- 53:26Speaker 4: actually helps your offensive stack on the other side there.
- 53:29Speaker 4: So in Jacob's teams, assuming right green Bay, where Jacobs
- 53:33Speaker 4: pays off is when green Bay's taking the air out
- 53:35Speaker 4: of the football, I think that makes some sense. Obviously,
- 53:37Speaker 4: adding Micah Parsons there and we still got Zabra mckinne
- 53:40Speaker 4: in the back and all of that there. So I
- 53:42Speaker 4: prefer the Packers defenses. Love the kickers. I'll be overweight
- 53:46Speaker 4: on the kickers as always. They're just severely underpriced always.
- 53:50Speaker 4: I mean, these guys should be in the six K
- 53:52Speaker 4: little six k range where you actually have to think
- 53:54Speaker 4: about it, it's pretty easy click their Their floor just
- 53:57Speaker 4: seems too good, especially the Packers, where these drives can
- 54:01Speaker 4: stall out and la floor is very, very willing to
- 54:04Speaker 4: just run McManus out there and boot it through the upright.
- 54:07Speaker 3: So I like the Packers defense Jacob's captain teams.
- 54:10Speaker 4: That's a little way to play Jacob's differently, I think
- 54:12Speaker 4: outside of that, not playing any of these other guys.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the pricing is lower scoring games Craft Ertz,
- 54:18Speaker 2: Golden Eckler, JCM, even Jayden Red Like, would you be
- 54:23Speaker 2: shocked if McManus or Gay outscore them? I wouldn't if
- 54:26Speaker 2: the offense is stall like that twelve thirteen fourteen from
- 54:30Speaker 2: one of those read no one of the names I listed.
- 54:33Speaker 2: The Ertz is the Crafts of the World we have
- 54:35Speaker 2: projected for over eleven, So leave a one thousand, two
- 54:39Speaker 2: thousand in salary right there. Making a pivot like that
- 54:42Speaker 2: I think is interesting. In Chalk your Teams Hoop Fandel,
- 54:46Speaker 2: the only thing I really noticed is they continue to
- 54:48Speaker 2: price defenses up, like really close to the Kickers Packers
- 54:52Speaker 2: defense is more than McManus, Gay and Commanders are pretty
- 54:55Speaker 2: close in salary. I mean Kickers will always get more
- 54:58Speaker 2: ownership there, so defense this will be even lower owned
- 55:01Speaker 2: on FanDuel, and then JCM and Eckler priced up a
- 55:04Speaker 2: decent bit, kind of like on DraftKings, but even more
- 55:06Speaker 2: so on FanDuel. I think the running game will be overlooked.
- 55:10Speaker 2: I mean it's really easy down low craft Dobbs wis
- 55:13Speaker 2: Noah Brown. The prices are free that it makes spending
- 55:16Speaker 2: for jad and Daniels that captain who projects the or
- 55:19Speaker 2: MVP excuse me, who projects the best? Or Jacob's Love, Like,
- 55:22Speaker 2: it's really easy to get stud there's enough value and
- 55:25Speaker 2: new killing or defenses. Do you see it the same
- 55:27Speaker 2: way just the general build anything you want to elaborate on, Yeah.
- 55:31Speaker 1: It's pretty similar. Like Jaden Daniels, Josh Jacobs I'm assuming
- 55:35Speaker 1: get a majority of the ownership in the MVP spot
- 55:39Speaker 1: like that makes sense. Jordan Love will will have some
- 55:41Speaker 1: I mean he's what is that eighteen hundred dollars cheaper
- 55:45Speaker 1: than Jaden Daniels, So like those three for sure, even
- 55:48Speaker 1: more so than on DK will be owned in the
- 55:51Speaker 1: MVP debo twelve hundred dollars cheaper than Terry McLaurin. That
- 55:57Speaker 1: stands out Jaden Reid right there, those guys, which is crazy,
- 56:02Speaker 1: Like man, it makes it hard to play Jayden Reid
- 56:05Speaker 1: on on FanDuel at ninety eight dollars. You know that
- 56:10Speaker 1: that's a crazy price tag in my eyes should be
- 56:14Speaker 1: low owned. I mean, Noise Spotted probably play him would
- 56:17Speaker 1: be Jordan Love MVP teams. You have JCM more expensive
- 56:23Speaker 1: than Eckler, but his game fits FanDuel a little bit more.
- 56:26Speaker 1: But it is an expensive price egg. It's gonna be
- 56:28Speaker 1: a little harder for Eckler to even get there on
- 56:31Speaker 1: FanDuel without the full PPR. So that's the talking point.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Tucker Craft at five k seems like a really really
- 56:38Speaker 1: good value play, you know, cheaper than Ertz where it's
- 56:42Speaker 1: flipped the other site, DK, dobbs Wick, Noah Brown. You
- 56:47Speaker 1: have all these cheap guys, so, you know, pretty similar
- 56:50Speaker 1: in terms of roster construction. It is going to be
- 56:52Speaker 1: much harder, I think for somebody to beat one of
- 56:55Speaker 1: those top three at the MVP spot. Daniels Jacobs in
- 56:58Speaker 1: Love just for the scoring, for scoring purposes and the
- 57:03Speaker 1: and the prices as well, but it's where we're at
- 57:06Speaker 1: on FanDuel.
- 57:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes me because it's harder to see it.
- 57:10Speaker 2: It makes me if I am playing someone at MVP,
- 57:13Speaker 2: not name those three, like I want them to be
- 57:15Speaker 2: able to outscore everyone outright on the slate. Yes, And
- 57:17Speaker 2: who is that Devo scary Terry, Yeah, Golden. Then you
- 57:22Speaker 2: could go to like I think I'm even more interested
- 57:24Speaker 2: in JC MVP on FanDuel because you just leverage off
- 57:28Speaker 2: of Jade and Daniels so so much, and if he
- 57:31Speaker 2: rushes to win, it's not Jaden doing it that way.
- 57:34Speaker 2: So and most definitely, Drea, can you play Daniel's MVP
- 57:37Speaker 2: packers in the flex? Absolutely? Jay and Daniels could take
- 57:40Speaker 2: six acts today trying to run back there doesn't mean
- 57:43Speaker 2: he can't run in for two or one fumble, a
- 57:45Speaker 2: kick return, a pick six. Like so much variance in
- 57:48Speaker 2: the defensive position. I when I won, I had Worthy
- 57:52Speaker 2: up top Mahomes in the flex and that Eagles defense
- 57:55Speaker 2: in the flex, Like, there's so much anti correlation can
- 57:58Speaker 2: get there into one game slates and a lot of
- 58:00Speaker 2: the anti correlation. When you win, you win a lot
- 58:03Speaker 2: more because people don't feel comfortable, especially handbuilding. They don't
- 58:06Speaker 2: get there, So yeah, I don't mind that one bit.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Maid's anything to add on FanDuel otherwise, just give me
- 58:11Speaker 2: the broad your final thoughts before we get to that
- 58:15Speaker 2: ship a ticket number seven, so FanDuel and then just period,
- 58:18Speaker 2: who wins this game? Anything you want to say to
- 58:20Speaker 2: the people.
- 58:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say two points.
- 58:23Speaker 4: I don't think Jayden Reid is playable outside the MVP position,
- 58:27Speaker 4: And the reason being is I could see Jayden Reid
- 58:30Speaker 4: having like a three four two touchdown line right, a
- 58:34Speaker 4: three four twenty and two touchdowns, and maybe it's not
- 58:37Speaker 4: Jacobs right that runs in the touchdowns in the goal
- 58:40Speaker 4: line in the red zone, and they just focus on
- 58:44Speaker 4: Jayden Reid. He's showing where he kind of have the
- 58:47Speaker 4: ability to have two or three touchdown games. And if
- 58:49Speaker 4: you do that, nobody's going to have it. That's one
- 58:52Speaker 4: way to a more unique shipper over on FanDuel, and
- 58:55Speaker 4: same goes for JCM. There, it's all Jana Reid's direct
- 58:59Speaker 4: leverage off of Jacobs, jcm's direct leverage off of Daniels.
- 59:02Speaker 4: They can both get there in a similar way when
- 59:04Speaker 4: it's a touchdown dependent site.
- 59:05Speaker 3: So I'm chasing touchdowns.
- 59:06Speaker 4: I'm probably not playing Jayden Reed outside of MVP, just
- 59:09Speaker 4: because if he gets there, it's probably dictated in the
- 59:13Speaker 4: red zone with touchdown. Same thing with JCM, So that's
- 59:16Speaker 4: additional takes everything else. I'm in line with what you
- 59:19Speaker 4: guys said. Overall, I think it's a pretty good game.
- 59:22Speaker 4: I think it's back and forth. That's kind of why
- 59:23Speaker 4: I'm tapping more into the Eckler stuff. I think both
- 59:25Speaker 4: teams are gonna have to pass more than they did
- 59:28Speaker 4: in Week one. Packers wanted to be pretty uh the
- 59:30Speaker 4: Packers are willing to be pass heavy, and I expect
- 59:34Speaker 4: them to have to pass more this game, and not
- 59:37Speaker 4: just because to give a break to Jacob's but I
- 59:39Speaker 4: just think they didn't have to last week. And I
- 59:42Speaker 4: think more people are gonna tap into Week one the overreactions.
- 59:45Speaker 4: I think it's more of a back and forth game
- 59:47Speaker 4: and uh yeah, hopefully my Packers win, but I won't
- 59:50Speaker 4: be surprised to see, uh see jayd and Daniels come
- 59:52Speaker 4: in here and win in Lambell in primetime.
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- 1:01:58Speaker 2: want to say before we get on out of here.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to this game. I mean it's a
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: good one. We have firepower here on both sides. I
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: think optim lineup could look a lot of different ways.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: And I will say I think I think your guys's packer,
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: who's gonna get the job done tonight. I think they
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: could be a top end team this NFL season. They
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: look good. They added Michael Parsons. I'm gonna go Packers,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Packers to win, and I'm gonna, you know, kind of
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: dictate the way I build teams based around that. I
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: think the Packers get the job done tonight.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: I hope so. But again, as long as Zee Trivia
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- 1:02:50Speaker 2: if people are thinking it goes over under who the
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- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Nate's thanks for stepping in. Go pack Oh, let's see
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