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- 2:50SPEAKER_00: Moving on, though,
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: I want to talk about something that is interesting,
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: the genius of the Greenland deal.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: It's really easy to get down because the major historical foreign policy event of
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: the second Trump administration is going to be the self-inflicted wound in Iran.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's any doubt about that now.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: And what a tragedy, as all self-inflicted wounds are.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: Isn't that right, Mandela?
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: Are tragedies.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: But a lot of good things have gone on as well that probably go unnoticed because
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: the headline is going to be so bad.
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: And what the Trump administration has done to actually make the NSS,
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: the National Security Strategy,
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: work is as notable as ignoring it over a Over Iran,
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: the Trump people took a fourth order priority by their own estimation.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: The Middle East fought a war of choice,
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: thereby ruining the very good work they did with the National Security Strategy and
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: the National Defense Strategy, the NDS.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: Which is the Secretary of War's version written primarily by my friend Bridge Colby.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: Which actually in realist terms outlined American priorities.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: First, of course, is our own hemisphere.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: The United States uniquely among the great powers has an advantage of
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: a completed sphere of influence.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: That's not something the Chinese can claim as they can't get by the first island chain.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: That's not something the Russians can surely mention as they can't even get to Kiev.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: And so America uniquely controls its own sphere of influence,
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: and they have really secured that in a positive way in the last term.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: It's a pity about all the rest,
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: but let's not lose faith with what And when there was a deal over Greenland
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: and Greenland didn't become an American colony,
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: cue the sneering and the always wrong Guardian.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: Let's remember,
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: what are the Guardian,
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: Zannie Minton Beddoes's ruination of The Economist,
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: the always wrong FT, what do these guys have in common?
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: They thought Angela Merkel was the bee's knees, along with Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Brammer.
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: Let's not forget the calls that these folks have made.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: If you thought Angela Merkel was the savior of Western civilization,
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: as Minton Beddoes's economist put it,
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: I mean, hysteria for the lady, and you don't see her...
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: As the root cause and poster person for the decline of a self-regarding,
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: inept elite that somehow thinks it should still run things,
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: you've been out to lunch for 10 years.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: I mean, I wrote just on X today.
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: My firm is...
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: And the miracle is rightly named but among this legion of people
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: Let's not listen to them again because they are so laughably wrong about how the world works.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Merkel was a woman who destroyed Germany's energy policy,
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: getting rid of the nukes over the Fukushima.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: She's
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: had stagnant growth by moving to the mushy corporatist center,
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: and she let in a million refugees.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: And when asked why by her own party she did this unilaterally,
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: she responded with a bumper sticker, we can do it.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: And they thought this woman was a genius.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: Perhaps they oughtn't to be listened to.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: So the very people who thought Merkel was a genius are now sneering at
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: the Greenland deal that Trump did saying,
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: well, the United States didn't End up colonizing the place after all.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: Trump overshot, ha ha ha, another sign of his lunacy.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: This deal is little better than the old deal that had been cut over NATO.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: Between Denmark,
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: which owns Greenland for some reason still,
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: even though they haven't protected it for decades,
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: let's be clear,
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: the United States protects de facto Greenland,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: not the Dutch,
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: or sorry, not the Danes, who have an army about the size of my football team.
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: They don't do that.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: And the people of Greenland themselves are self-autonomous in terms of domestic issues.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: They were involved in this deal, as was the United States.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: So ha ha ha.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: He didn't get what he wanted yet again.
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: Ha ha ha.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: The details of the deal were not out yet.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: Well, as always, the devil is in the detail.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: The detail tell you whether an agreement is good or bad.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: And the details have now emerged about Greenland.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: And frankly, I think it's a genius deal.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: I think it's a great deal.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: And I think it's very much in line with how we've pegged Trump generally before.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: He's a New York property developer.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: That explains him.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: People are a product of their own history.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: That's why we have a neorealist view.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: We are not mechanistic,
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: Nashian game theorists who just think it's somehow poli-sci oriented and
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: the state is billiard balls and nothing happens within the ball.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: Rather, we think,
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: as Morgenthau did and the original realists did,
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: there's a strong element of psychology,
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: of biography, of history, which is our secret sauce analytically.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: And we've said this before about Donald Trump, and let me use the European.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Because I was just with a bunch of smart Europeans in REM at my dinner and had
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: a really good conversation with them about this very point.
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: That people get Trump all wrong in this way
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: because we haven't had any New York property developers running American foreign
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: policy before.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: And that is a different kind of world to live in.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what we see.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: Think of it this way.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: Let's do a thought experiment.
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: If you had told me before Donald Trump's time,
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: and let's compare him with the sainted Obama,
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: whoever European loves with his beautiful crisp suits,
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: speaking in front of a teleprompter,
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: in front of people, in complete rounded paragraphs, and everybody enjoying this.
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: And what do you see for this?
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: He asked the Europeans to spend more money on defense and to have better terms
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: of trade for the United States,
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: which had much lower tariff rates than Europe,
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: while the United States paid for a bunch of free-riding Europeans.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: And what did they say, much as they loved Obama?
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: No, we're not going to do that.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: And he accomplished nothing.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: He didn't get a single thing he wanted.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: Ask Secretary of Defense,
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: then Robert Gates,
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: who when he was leaving wrote a bitter and correct missive about the fact
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: that someday someone in Europe wasn't going to put up with this nonsense anymore.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: Okay, now let's compare them to Donald Trump.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: Boorish, vulgar, don't like his tone, don't like his manner.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: Let me let you in on a secret.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: Neither do I.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: But who is more successful?
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: Obama, who accomplished nothing,
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: or another miracle figure,
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: or Donald Trump, who everyone in Europe hates pretty openly.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: And yet look at what happened.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: The Europeans, after being threatened and controlled, are Let's use the lower number.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of accounting tricks that go into the top number.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: Let's go with 3.5 as the number way up from the
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: Trump gets the moon.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: That's how New York propaganda.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: The tariffs situation is even more dramatic for all the chaos of it.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: The terms of trade between Europe and the United States now dramatically favor
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: the United States after the Turnberry Agreement.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: So who accomplished more?
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: The boorish Trump who everyone likes to sneer at at cocktail parties?
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Or the Senate Obama who did and got absolutely nothing?
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: So that's the basis to the New York property developer model.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: And Greenland is just the most recent example.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: By demanding Greenland,
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: by saying we might go in and take Greenland, by saying we could make it a colony.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: After all, it's part of our whole strategy to strengthen the Western Hemisphere.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: By breaking the China...
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: He forces,
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: through leverage,
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: the Danes particularly,
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: to outline what it is they want in terms of Greenland,
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: along with talking to the Greenlanders themselves,
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: and then on the basis of that,
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: reaching a deal that,
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: when you look at these terms, very much favor the United States.
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: So what am I talking about the deal?
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: The old deal...
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: We know this was dependent on the US staying in NATO and could be abrogated in theory.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: The New Deal says the United States has the complete ability to do what is necessary
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: in Greenland in order to secure both Danish Greenlander and American security.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: We have the deal to do what is necessary.
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter if we're in NATO.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter if we're outside of NATO.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: And it's in perpetuity.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: There is no time limit to this.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: So we are the arbiter of security in Greenland in perpetuity.
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: That's point one.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: Point two, no U.S. adversary can ever have a base in Greenland without U.S. approval.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: Let me repeat that.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: No U.S. adversary can ever have a base in Greenland without U.S. approval.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: Well, ever is a pretty long time.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: Goodbye to the pipe dreams of the Russians and the Chinese on the second point.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Seems pretty good to me.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Point number three, no U.S. adversary can make...
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: Important investments in Greenland without U.S.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: approval can make,
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: and the phrasing is actually, no U.S.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: adversary can make sensitive investments in Greenland,
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: that's rare earths, without U.S. approval.
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: So no basing without U.S.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: approval forever, no sensitive investments without U.S. approval forever.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: That seems to me a pretty good deal, and that seems to me a better deal than the old deal.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: So it's in perpetuity.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: We can do what is necessary in Greenland in order to secure its security.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: No U.S. adversary can ever have a base in Greenland without American approval,
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: and no U.S.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: adversary can make sensitive investments in Greenland without U.S. approval.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: That's not nothing.
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: Further, this needs to be seen as part of what really Marco Rubio has taken the lead on.
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: That's for you, Terry.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: In securing Western Hemisphere primacy,
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: again, the NSS and the NDS are right in saying the key to all this is that we get...
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Dominance again in our hemisphere that we have this sphere of influence
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: that nobody else has and that this is a great and good thing for us.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: And what have they done Venezuela brilliantly getting China out of Panama.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: Which was, I think, Marco's greatest hour.
- 14:33SPEAKER_00: Again, by cajoling, threatening, etc.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: We actually, and Senator Eric Schmidt and his gang got this right, read the treaty.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: We didn't just hand over the Panama Canal.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: We did it under certain conditions.
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: The primary condition is that no adversary of the U.S.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: can control either the entrance to or the exit from the canal,
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: and China at the time was controlling both.
- 14:54SPEAKER_00: We reminded, not so gently, the Panamanians of this, and sure enough, the Chinese aren't.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: We're managing and dealing with Cuba.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: Mexico wants to sign an agreement on trade with the United States,
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: allowing for no transshipments.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: This is a huge deal.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: And finally, we have Greenland in the north.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: So you're securing the hemisphere and your primacy in the hemisphere, and you're doing primacy.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: Because as we've said before,
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Mark Carney is going to find out that middle powers are like plowing through
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: a divider on a highway.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: It's a middle road to nothing.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: You can't use the combined heft of middle powers.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: They don't have common interests,
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: common geography,
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: common anything, and they don't have the wherewithal to make their weight felt.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: So far better,
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: by the way,
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: if Canada wants to do this and drift from the United States,
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: far better to do it through the Anglosphere, to do it through something.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: I don't know why I'm giving Mark Carney advice, but I guess I am this morning.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: I'm in a good mood.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: Far better to work with UK countries.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: And Australia and New Zealand to do that.
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: But this middle power thing is just,
- 16:10SPEAKER_00: Kearney's been fetid too many times at Davos and has drunk the Kool-Aid,
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: and that's going to rebound against them.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: So this is just part of this broader Monroe Doctrine,
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: the Trump corollary to the Monroe Doctrine,
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: and it seems to me a very good deal indeed.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: It's good for all.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: Number one, the Danes get to keep their sovereignty.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: The Danes, that's bottom line what they want.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: They want the facade of owning Greenland, even though they haven't managed its defense for eons.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: But they want to keep that facade.
- 16:41SPEAKER_00: They've got it.
- 16:42SPEAKER_00: Greenland wants the right to solve autonomy and internal matters.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: And even if later they don't.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: The Greenlanders signed on to the treaty.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: So the independence question no longer vexes Washington.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: And then three, the U.S. gets everything.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: We get Greenland added forever to the sphere of influence.
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: The Danes get autonomy,
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: and the Greenlanders get control of what they have now without losing that either.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: That's a win-win-win.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: And again,
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: I don't think we should laugh at the New York property developer model,
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: because in this case, it's come up aces yet again.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: It's very easy to laugh at this approach.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Breaking the China is not something that defeat diplomats who are Wilsonians to
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: the tips of their fingers like,
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: but we judge policies in a risk statement by their results.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: And by its result, frankly, I'm sorry to make you move, Mandela, the Greenland deal is genius.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much.
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: Very happy to defend the Greenland deal and talk about something nice for a change.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: As I promised you, we will do a version of the speech I gave at Credit Agricole at REM.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: Thank you so many of you for liking my picture in front of the residence Eisenhower,
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: which was a thriller.
- 18:04SPEAKER_00: We will keep faith with you.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: Won't we, Taddo and Mandela?
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: The cats are united behind me.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: Everybody take care.