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- 4:41Speaker 1: a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening to Stock with Kathleen
- 4:47Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Netflix is putting pressure on traditional pay
- 4:52Speaker 1: television providers such as Comcast. At the same time, these
- 4:56Speaker 1: cable companies are fighting with satellite providers and other competitor
- 5:00Speaker 1: It is in order to attract a shrinking customer base.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Here to tell us more about trends in the US
- 5:06Speaker 1: pay television industry. Tuna Amobi, equity analyst for SMP Capital
- 5:11Speaker 1: I Q Tuna, thanks very much for being with me
- 5:14Speaker 1: tell us about these trends and the competition that is
- 5:18Speaker 1: coming from non traditional television broadcasters. Hi Pox, Hi team,
- 5:24Speaker 1: good afternoon, Thanks for having me on the show. Um So,
- 5:27Speaker 1: I guess you know. We're seeing a trend now of
- 5:31Speaker 1: consumers increasingly sobstitute in their traditional pay TV packages for
- 5:36Speaker 1: online video. Um. Some of this reflects the maturation of
- 5:41Speaker 1: the USA TV landscape. Um also the fact that cable
- 5:45Speaker 1: bills have been rising much faster than inflation, so consumers
- 5:50Speaker 1: have been increasingly looking for cheaper alternatives like Netflix, and
- 5:54Speaker 1: now we're seeing a whole new generation of skinny cable
- 5:59Speaker 1: bundle packages with Internet. So I think, um, the traditional
- 6:03Speaker 1: pay TV companies are getting a run of their money
- 6:05Speaker 1: because their customer bases declining or at least very mature,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and we're seeing um, you know, these up starts, you know,
- 6:12Speaker 1: kind of chipping away. What's what if you could define
- 6:15Speaker 1: what is the term skinny bundle or skinny package, what
- 6:18Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, it's just the term to refer
- 6:22Speaker 1: to slim down programming packages. So if you think about
- 6:26Speaker 1: the average um, you know, viewer gets you know, literally
- 6:30Speaker 1: hundreds of channels, but studies have shown that consumers will
- 6:33Speaker 1: only watched just a handful of those. So the thinking is,
- 6:37Speaker 1: why should consumers continue to pay for um, literally hundreds
- 6:41Speaker 1: or dollars of channels at the minimum that they're not
- 6:44Speaker 1: even watching. So that's why we're seeing more customized offerings,
- 6:48Speaker 1: so called skinny bundles that you know, you can basically, um,
- 6:53Speaker 1: you know, get customized packages in some respects, including some
- 6:57Speaker 1: of the most watched you know programming channels for much
- 7:00Speaker 1: cheaper monthly subprison fees. To tell us about Amazon and
- 7:06Speaker 1: what you foresee their programming will be like in the
- 7:10Speaker 1: next couple of years. UM, Well, seen, we've seen Amazon
- 7:14Speaker 1: really you know, elevate their their game in terms of
- 7:17Speaker 1: their video offering. UH. So, not only have they rotcheted
- 7:21Speaker 1: up their original programming investments in the last several years, UM,
- 7:25Speaker 1: we're also seeing them trying to customize some of their
- 7:28Speaker 1: offerings because recently they just launched you know, a stand
- 7:32Speaker 1: alone streaming offering, so you no longer need to be
- 7:36Speaker 1: a prime subscriber to to be able to get the
- 7:38Speaker 1: Amazon you know video. This is an aim that had
- 7:42Speaker 1: to have competition with Netflix. So while they're still lagging Netflix,
- 7:46Speaker 1: Amazon in terms of the uh the the array of content. UM.
- 7:52Speaker 1: I think they really have made a significant amount of
- 7:56Speaker 1: you know effort in the last several years to at
- 7:58Speaker 1: least close from ground and we're seeing their membership um
- 8:01Speaker 1: grow significantly thanks in large parts to what they're now
- 8:05Speaker 1: offering on the video side. Tuna is Amazon worth seven
- 8:10Speaker 1: forty eight dollars a share. It's currently up a little
- 8:14Speaker 1: bit more than a half a percent today. Well, you know,
- 8:18Speaker 1: I think that's a very good question that we struggle with.
- 8:21Speaker 1: We certainly still have um, you know, by recommendation on
- 8:24Speaker 1: on Amazon. Um. You know, I think that frankly, I
- 8:28Speaker 1: think that we we see quite some offsite, albeit relatively moderate,
- 8:33Speaker 1: from current levels. UM. There's any number of ways you
- 8:36Speaker 1: can justify that valuation. Right, So there's this um Amazon
- 8:40Speaker 1: web services that you know is growing and leafs and
- 8:42Speaker 1: bounds which could be spun off down the road, we think.
- 8:45Speaker 1: And then they're also getting share um you know from
- 8:49Speaker 1: traditional retailers like wal Mart and Target, and just recently
- 8:53Speaker 1: we saw this huge success from Prime Day, which really
- 8:58Speaker 1: really said inbar in terms of what you can expect
- 9:01Speaker 1: and how you can expect Amazon to you know, customized
- 9:04Speaker 1: marketing offering. So it's all about you know, convenience and
- 9:07Speaker 1: selection and price. When you talk about Amazon, I think
- 9:10Speaker 1: they're doing a great job in that respect. To know,
- 9:13Speaker 1: why do you consider Sony Corporation s n E is
- 9:18Speaker 1: the symbol of the American Depository received Why do you
- 9:22Speaker 1: think that Sony is worth buying? Well, I have to
- 9:26Speaker 1: tell you Sony, they conglomerate. UM, I think they really
- 9:29Speaker 1: have turned around or kind of reinvented their um you know,
- 9:33Speaker 1: struggling core electronics business. So now they're you know, shifting
- 9:37Speaker 1: towards more kind of more kind of mobile and customized devices,
- 9:43Speaker 1: and they've done a pretty decent job in that. But
- 9:46Speaker 1: I think more importantly, I think Sonny is really made
- 9:49Speaker 1: some strides on the entertainment side. PlayStation View, for example,
- 9:53Speaker 1: is one of those skinny packages that have emerged over
- 9:56Speaker 1: the past year and surprisingly getting some traction they against
- 10:00Speaker 1: some of these other competitors. So I think they really
- 10:03Speaker 1: try to reinvent their their offerings. And keep in mind
- 10:07Speaker 1: when you say PlayStation View, it's not really about PlayStation
- 10:10Speaker 1: on itself. It's literally content that's made available across you know, dozens,
- 10:16Speaker 1: if not hundreds of devices, and they've been able to
- 10:18Speaker 1: really get subtraction with the content providers. Thank you very much. Tuna,
- 10:23Speaker 1: a mobi equity analyst for S and P, joining us
- 10:27Speaker 1: like giving us the details of trends in the pay
- 10:30Speaker 1: television industry in the United States. The shares of Sony
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