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- 0:00Speaker 1: I would like to request some help from my daughter.
- 0:02Speaker 1: She started dating this guy and he's actually a sexual offender.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I don't want her to go there by herself and
- 0:08Speaker 1: have like something bad happen to her.
- 0:10Speaker 2: God, yeah.
- 0:11Speaker 1: You know, when you hear a mother making a 911
- 0:14Speaker 1: call from over 600 miles away, just pleading with a
- 0:17Speaker 1: stranger in a dispatch center to protect her child, there's
- 0:20Speaker 1: this specific kind of chill that's That runs right down
- 0:23Speaker 1: your spine.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
- 0:25Speaker 1: It's the sound of someone watching a train derail in
- 0:27Speaker 1: slow motion.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:28Speaker 1: And they can't do anything to stop it.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Right. But the most terrifying part of this story isn't
- 0:33Speaker 2: just the man who derailed her life. It's the institutions
- 0:38Speaker 2: that stood on the tracks and literally waved him right through.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:41Speaker 2: They are standing right there fully equipped with the emergency
- 0:44Speaker 2: brakes and they just refuse to pull the lever.
- 0:46Speaker 1: They really do. And today we are taking you into
- 0:49Speaker 1: the anatomy of a systemic failure. For this deep dive,
- 0:53Speaker 1: we are pulling from the transcript of a profoundly unsettling,
- 0:57Speaker 1: just incredibly detailed investigative video by the channel Beyond Evil.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It's titled The Frightening Story of Lauren McCluskey. And our
- 1:07Speaker 1: mission today isn't just to walk you through the timeline
- 1:10Speaker 1: of a tragic true crime story. I mean, if we
- 1:14Speaker 1: just did that, we'd be doing you a disservice.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Yeah, completely.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We are going to completely dissect this. We're looking at
- 1:20Speaker 1: a cascading series of blaring red flags, institutional apathy, and
- 1:25Speaker 1: the kind of systemic blind spots that are actively built
- 1:28Speaker 1: into the bureaucracies that are designed to keep you safe.
- 1:32Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that this wasn't a crime of sudden,
- 1:35Speaker 2: unpredictable passion.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:36Speaker 2: The culture often treats violence against women as if it's
- 1:39Speaker 2: a random lightning strike.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
- 1:41Speaker 2: But this was not a lightning strike. This was a
- 1:43Speaker 2: slow motion collision that was telegraphed to authorities for days,
- 1:46Speaker 2: if not weeks, in advance.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Yeah, the warning signs weren't hidden at all.
- 1:49Speaker 2: No, they were explicitly documented. They were handed over in
- 1:52Speaker 2: person and they were just fundamentally ignored.
- 1:55Speaker 1: And that's exactly why we really want you to stick
- 1:58Speaker 1: with us on this journey. While we're looking at the
- 2:00Speaker 1: specific life of a 21-year-old student, Lauren McCluskey, this entire
- 2:04Speaker 1: deep dive is really a masterclass. in understanding the mechanics
- 2:08Speaker 1: of coercive control.
- 2:10Speaker 2: It really is.
- 2:10Speaker 1: It's an exploration of the devastating lethal consequences that occur
- 2:15Speaker 1: when the very institutions that are funded and legally mandated
- 2:19Speaker 1: to protect us become completely bogged down by rigid jurisdictions
- 2:23Speaker 1: and honestly, a total lack of curiosity.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:27Speaker 1: So to really understand how a system could fail someone
- 2:30Speaker 1: so completely, we have to start by understanding who Lauren
- 2:32Speaker 1: was as a person because her character is Her specific
- 2:36Speaker 1: psychological makeup plays a massive role in how this all unfolded.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crucial context.
- 2:41Speaker 1: So Lauren was 21 years old. She's originally from Pullman, Washington,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and was a communications major at the University of Utah
- 2:47Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. But defining her as just a
- 2:49Speaker 1: student totally misses the core of her identity. She was
- 2:53Speaker 1: an extraordinary elite athlete.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Elite is almost an understatement, honestly. She was a collegiate heptathlete.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Which is just insane to me. It is.
- 3:02Speaker 2: For anyone who might not follow track and field... The
- 3:04Speaker 2: heptathlon is arguably one of the most grueling, demanding tests
- 3:09Speaker 2: of human athletic ability in the world. It's a combined
- 3:12Speaker 2: discipline consisting of seven vastly different events. You've got the
- 3:16Speaker 2: 100 meter hurdles, the high jump, the shot put, the
- 3:20Speaker 2: 200 meter run, the long jump, the javelin throw, and
- 3:23Speaker 2: then finally the 800 meter run.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Just to put that into perspective for you. I mean,
- 3:29Speaker 1: Most athletes dedicate their entire lives to mastering just one
- 3:33Speaker 1: of those biomechanics. Exactly. You have sprinters.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And you have throwers. Lauren had to do both.
- 3:37Speaker 2: And that requires an almost unfathomable level of physical and
- 3:41Speaker 2: mental discipline.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:42Speaker 2: You have to master explosive fast twitch muscle speed for
- 3:45Speaker 2: the sprints, incredible technical precision and timing for the hurdles
- 3:49Speaker 2: and high jump, and sheer brute kinetic strength for the
- 3:52Speaker 2: shot put and javelin.
- 3:54Speaker 1: And run an 800 meter on top of it.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Right. You have to possess the cardiovascular engine of a
- 3:58Speaker 2: distance runner for that. But honestly, more importantly than the
- 4:00Speaker 2: physical output, is the psychological framework required to excel at
- 4:04Speaker 2: this level?
- 4:05Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
- 4:06Speaker 2: To be a collegiate heptathlete means you have an ironclad will.
- 4:10Speaker 2: You are deeply accustomed to pushing through pain, ignoring extreme discomfort,
- 4:15Speaker 2: and dedicating yourself entirely to a long-term goal.
- 4:18Speaker 1: You're highly disciplined. Yeah. And you have a massive capacity
- 4:21Speaker 1: for enduring hardship without quitting.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Yes.
- 4:24Speaker 1: And keep that specific trait in mind. because abusers often
- 4:28Speaker 1: look for people with a high capacity to endure.
- 4:31Speaker 2: That is such an important point. Right.
- 4:34Speaker 1: So by her senior year, Lauren was excelling. She was
- 4:37Speaker 1: winning medals, taking home academic awards, and surrounded by this
- 4:40Speaker 1: really solid, supportive group of friends. She's navigating that incredibly
- 4:44Speaker 1: exciting transition into full adulthood.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Yeah, everything is going great.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And then we get to September 2018. It's a Friday night.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Lauren and a friend go out for an evening of
- 4:54Speaker 1: dancing and drinks together. At a small club near the
- 4:56Speaker 1: University of Utah campus. It's your classic, totally innocent college weekend.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Right.
- 5:01Speaker 1: But this is where the meet cute happens. Except we
- 5:04Speaker 1: quickly learn there is absolutely nothing cute about it.
- 5:07Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 5:08Speaker 1: A man catches her eye. He approaches her and introduces
- 5:12Speaker 1: himself as Sean Fields. He tells her he's 28 years old,
- 5:16Speaker 1: working at the club as a bouncer, but he's also
- 5:19Speaker 1: a student trying to better himself at the nearby Salt
- 5:21Speaker 1: Lake Community College.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Look at the archetype he is immediately projecting here.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Right, the protector.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Exactly. He presents himself as a protector figure, a bouncer,
- 5:29Speaker 2: someone who keeps bad people out. But he balances that
- 5:32Speaker 2: hyper-masculine protector role with vulnerability and ambition.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Yeah, by saying he's a student, too.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Right. And he's tall, muscular, conventionally handsome, and incredibly charming.
- 5:43Speaker 2: He's a charismatic talker. And the initial courtship phase is
- 5:47Speaker 2: executed straight out of a romantic comedy playbook. Literally.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Literally.
- 5:51Speaker 2: He buys her flowers, takes her out to nice dinners,
- 5:53Speaker 2: and very sweetly, almost traditionally, asks her to be his
- 5:56Speaker 2: official girlfriend. He completely sweeps her off her feet.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Lauren's mother, Jill, later noted in interviews that Lauren
- 6:03Speaker 1: was just over the moon for this guy.
- 6:05Speaker 2: She was really falling for him.
- 6:07Speaker 1: And it moves incredibly fast. They become a serious item
- 6:09Speaker 1: in a matter of days. He starts staying overnight at
- 6:12Speaker 1: her dorm room, and she's even loaning him her car
- 6:14Speaker 1: to get to his supposed classes. Oh. But almost as
- 6:18Speaker 1: quickly as this romance bloomed... the insidious, suffocating creep of
- 6:22Speaker 1: control started setting in. And the source material points out
- 6:25Speaker 1: something very common in these dynamics. Lauren's friends were the
- 6:29Speaker 1: absolute first to notice the red flags.
- 6:31Speaker 2: The friends almost always see it first. Because the abuser
- 6:35Speaker 2: hasn't calibrated their public mask perfectly for the peripheral audience yet.
- 6:39Speaker 2: They are focused entirely on the primary target. The manipulation
- 6:43Speaker 2: tactics that Sean used are textbook examples of coercive control.
- 6:47Speaker 1: So textbook.
- 6:48Speaker 2: First, it starts with microaggressions regarding her autonomy, specifically her clothing.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:53Speaker 2: He would ask her to invite her friends out with them,
- 6:55Speaker 2: appearing to be, you know, social and inclusive. But then
- 6:58Speaker 2: he would privately request that Lauren dress in a very
- 7:02Speaker 2: specific toned down way, generally just a plain loose T-shirt
- 7:06Speaker 2: and jeans.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Now, if you haven't been in a controlling relationship, you
- 7:09Speaker 1: might think, you know, what's the big deal? He likes
- 7:12Speaker 1: her in casual clothes. But let's look at the mechanics
- 7:15Speaker 1: of this. Why doesn't an abuser care if you're wearing
- 7:18Speaker 1: a T-shirt and jeans versus a nice dress that you
- 7:21Speaker 1: feel confident in?
- 7:23Speaker 2: Well, it's entirely about diminishing her visibility and testing her
- 7:26Speaker 2: threshold for compliance.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 7:29Speaker 2: A beautiful, incredibly fit young woman in a nice dress
- 7:33Speaker 2: is going to turn heads in a club. By dictating
- 7:37Speaker 2: that she wears something plain and unassuming, he is subtly
- 7:40Speaker 2: communicating a very dark message.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Like, I don't want anyone else looking at you, and
- 7:45Speaker 2: your physical form exists only for my gaze and my approval.
- 7:49Speaker 1: God, it's so gross. It is.
- 7:50Speaker 2: It's a possessive stripping away of her individuality. And more importantly,
- 7:54Speaker 2: it's a boundary test. When she complies with that small demand,
- 7:57Speaker 2: just changing her shirt to avoid an argument, it sets
- 8:00Speaker 2: a psychological precedent.
- 8:01Speaker 1: It pays the way for much larger demands. Exactly. Which
- 8:04Speaker 1: moves us right into the extreme possessiveness. When she would
- 8:08Speaker 1: actually go out with her friends, Sean would call her
- 8:10Speaker 1: phone incessantly. Not just checking in, but demanding to know
- 8:14Speaker 1: what she was doing, exactly who she was with, and
- 8:17Speaker 1: the precise minute she would be back. Right. And if
- 8:20Speaker 1: she didn't answer the phone on the very first ring,
- 8:22Speaker 1: he would aggressively interrogate her about what took her so
- 8:25Speaker 1: long to pick up.
- 8:26Speaker 2: And here is where the manipulation reaches a truly sophisticated level.
- 8:30Speaker 2: When Lauren's friends expressed alarm about this constant suffocating behavior...
- 8:35Speaker 2: Lauren actually defended him.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that part is so sad.
- 8:38Speaker 2: She explained his actions away by telling her friends that
- 8:41Speaker 2: Shutton had deep insecurities because he had been treated very
- 8:44Speaker 2: badly and cheated on in a prior highly toxic relationship.
- 8:48Speaker 1: He is completely weaponizing her empathy.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Exactly the mechanism. He paints himself not as a jealous,
- 8:54Speaker 2: controlling partner, but as a wounded victim of past trauma.
- 8:58Speaker 2: This immediately triggers Lauren's natural empathy. Instead of seeing his
- 9:02Speaker 2: constant calling as the aggressive stalking behavior it actually is,
- 9:06Speaker 2: she sees it as a psychological wound that she, and
- 9:10Speaker 2: only she, can help heal with enough patience, compliance, and love.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Yeah, she thinks she's fixing him.
- 9:16Speaker 2: She thinks she's comforting a damaged man when in reality
- 9:20Speaker 2: she's being methodically isolated.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of people use the boiling frog analogy
- 9:24Speaker 1: for this, but I actually hate that analogy because it
- 9:27Speaker 1: just implies the victim isn't paying attention to the temperature.
- 9:30Speaker 2: That's a good point.
- 9:31Speaker 1: What's happening here is much more active and malicious. It's
- 9:35Speaker 1: less like a frog in a pot and more like
- 9:36Speaker 1: a predatory real estate developer quietly buying up the property
- 9:40Speaker 1: around your house. Oh, wow.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
- 9:43Speaker 1: He closes the roads one by one, disguising it as
- 9:45Speaker 1: construction for your benefit. You build a fence saying it's
- 9:48Speaker 1: to keep the bad people out. By the time you
- 9:51Speaker 1: realize you're trapped, he owns all the exits.
- 9:53Speaker 2: That's a brilliant way to frame it.
- 9:55Speaker 1: And he disguised his control as protection. He starts telling
- 9:59Speaker 1: her how dangerous the world is, how important it is
- 10:01Speaker 1: to be careful around other people on campus.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 1: He buys her a can of pepper spray and insists
- 10:06Speaker 1: she carry it everywhere. Then he invites her to a
- 10:09Speaker 1: gun range. He teaches her how to shoot and actively
- 10:13Speaker 1: pressures her to purchase a handgun of her own.
- 10:15Speaker 2: He is manufacturing a sense of pervasive external danger.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 10:19Speaker 2: He needs her to believe the world outside of his
- 10:22Speaker 2: arms is terrifying so that he becomes her only safe harbor.
- 10:26Speaker 2: If she is afraid of the world, she will cling
- 10:27Speaker 2: to him.
- 10:28Speaker 1: And this isolation tactic worked. By this point in the timeline,
- 10:32Speaker 1: the sources note that Lauren had completely stopped socializing with
- 10:35Speaker 1: her friends.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Wow.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Outside of attending class and her rigorous track practices, she
- 10:40Speaker 1: was spending her time exclusively with him. Her friends, and
- 10:43Speaker 1: even the residency hall workers at her dorm who saw
- 10:46Speaker 1: her daily, were deeply worried.
- 10:48Speaker 2: I'm sure.
- 10:49Speaker 1: They noticed a drastic change in her demeanor. She wasn't
- 10:52Speaker 1: taking care of herself the way she used to, and
- 10:54Speaker 1: they began to heavily suspect he was actively tracking her
- 10:57Speaker 1: movements around the sprawling university campus.
- 11:00Speaker 2: But when you build a house of cards that massive,
- 11:03Speaker 2: the facade is bound to crack.
- 11:05Speaker 1: You simply cannot maintain a lie of that magnitude indefinitely. No.
- 11:09Speaker 2: No. And this brings us to the unmasking, which happened
- 11:14Speaker 2: completely by chance.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah, this part is wild.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Lauren just happened to catch sight of his photo ID
- 11:20Speaker 2: one day in her dorm. And the name printed on
- 11:22Speaker 2: that card was not Sean Fields.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:25Speaker 2: It was Melvin Sean Rowland. And the birthday didn't make
- 11:29Speaker 2: him 28. He was born in 1981. He was 37
- 11:32Speaker 2: years old.
- 11:32Speaker 1: 27.
- 11:33Speaker 2: He is a full decade older than the persona he constructed.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Put yourself in her shoes in that moment. The tectonic
- 11:40Speaker 1: plates of her reality just violently shifted. It's one thing
- 11:44Speaker 1: to find out a partner shaved a year or two
- 11:46Speaker 1: off their age on a dating app out of vanity.
- 11:48Speaker 1: It is a completely different universe of terror to realize
- 11:52Speaker 1: you are sleeping next to a man with a completely
- 11:54Speaker 1: fabricated identity.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Yeah, that's horrifying.
- 11:57Speaker 1: The sources describe Melvin as someone with an innate sociopathic
- 12:00Speaker 1: knack for shooting a line of half-truths, lies, and elaborate
- 12:03Speaker 1: tall tales. His disarming nature made him a natural at
- 12:06Speaker 1: picking up women. He was a chameleon. But this accidental
- 12:10Speaker 1: discovery shattered the illusion entirely. She realizes in a split
- 12:14Speaker 1: second that she literally does not know the man who
- 12:17Speaker 1: has embedded himself in her life.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So terrifying.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So on October 5th, Lauren wisely decides to create physical distance.
- 12:25Speaker 1: She heads back home to Pullman, Washington for the university's
- 12:28Speaker 1: autumn break.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Smart move.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Yeah. She uses the safety of being hundreds of miles
- 12:32Speaker 1: away in her childhood home to confide in a friend
- 12:35Speaker 1: about what she saw on that driver's license. And her
- 12:38Speaker 1: friend suggests the most basic, logical next step. Let's just
- 12:42Speaker 1: look up this Melvin Rowland.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Just a simple public records internet search.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Exactly. And what populates on the screen is absolutely terrifying.
- 12:49Speaker 2: The search reveals that Melvin Sean Rowland, age 37 of
- 12:53Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, isn't a bouncer.
- 12:55Speaker 1: No.
- 12:55Speaker 2: He is a registered sex offender. And the specific details
- 12:58Speaker 2: of his criminal record are horrifying. On July 19, 2004,
- 13:03Speaker 2: he was convicted of enticing a minor, which is a
- 13:05Speaker 2: second-degree felony. and attempted forcible sexual abuse, a third-degree felony.
- 13:10Speaker 2: For these crimes, he was sentenced to the state penitentiary.
- 13:13Speaker 2: He served nine years behind bars.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Nine years.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he was only released on parole in September 2013.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Nine years in a state penitentiary. And Lauren is sitting
- 13:23Speaker 1: at a computer, realizing she has been isolated, tracked, manipulated,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and coerced by a seasoned predatory felon. Right. She knows
- 13:32Speaker 1: immediately she has to sever all ties, so she returns
- 13:35Speaker 1: to Utah... planning to officially end the relationship on October 9th.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 13:40Speaker 1: But Melvin is a master manipulator. He does not just
- 13:43Speaker 1: accept the breakup and walk away.
- 13:44Speaker 2: They never do. No.
- 13:46Speaker 1: When she confronts him in her dorm, he refuses to leave.
- 13:49Speaker 1: He ends up spending the night, and he spends hours
- 13:51Speaker 1: spinning an elaborate counter-narrative to explain away the convictions. Wow.
- 13:56Speaker 1: He apologizes profusely for the false name, claiming he was
- 13:59Speaker 1: just so ashamed of his past. But then he claims
- 14:02Speaker 1: the 2004 conviction was just a massive misunderstanding at a
- 14:05Speaker 1: wild frat party. and that the victim had maliciously lied
- 14:08Speaker 1: about her age.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Of course he does.
- 14:10Speaker 1: And he insists all the other allegations were totally fabricated
- 14:13Speaker 1: by a biased system.
- 14:14Speaker 2: We need to look closely at the psychological framework he
- 14:16Speaker 2: is employing here. He is using a well-documented abuse technique
- 14:20Speaker 2: called DARVO.
- 14:21Speaker 1: DARVO, yeah.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Which is an acronym that stands for Deny, Attack, and
- 14:26Speaker 2: Reverse Victim and Offender. It was identified by trauma psychologist
- 14:30Speaker 2: Jennifer Freyd. First, he denies the severity of his actions.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Then he attacks the credibility of his actual victim from 2004,
- 14:38Speaker 2: calling her a liar.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Finally, he reverses the roles, positioning himself not as a
- 14:43Speaker 2: registered sex offender, but as the tragic, persecuted victim of
- 14:47Speaker 2: a misunderstanding.
- 14:48Speaker 1: It's so manipulative.
- 14:50Speaker 2: For someone like Lauren, who operates in good faith and
- 14:52Speaker 2: has high empathy, this DARVO technique induces profound cognitive dissonance.
- 14:58Speaker 2: She desperately wants to believe the man she fell in
- 15:00Speaker 2: love with isn't a monster.
- 15:02Speaker 1: But thankfully, her friends step in. They don't buy a
- 15:05Speaker 1: single syllable of this frat party story.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Good for them.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Yeah, they push back hard against his narrative and they
- 15:11Speaker 1: give Lauren the external validation and strength she needs to truly,
- 15:15Speaker 1: unequivocally end the relationship the very next day, October 10th.
- 15:19Speaker 1: But OK, let's unpack this next detail, because this is
- 15:21Speaker 1: where a lot of people looking at this case from
- 15:23Speaker 1: the outside might struggle to understand the victim's logic.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yeah, this part is tricky for people to grasp.
- 15:29Speaker 1: On the day she officially breaks up with him, A
- 15:32Speaker 1: man she now knows is a registered sex offender who
- 15:35Speaker 1: has lied about his entire existence for a month. She
- 15:38Speaker 1: loans him her car for the day.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Why? Why on earth would you hand your car keys
- 15:44Speaker 1: over to a man you have just discovered is a predator?
- 15:47Speaker 2: It's a crucial question, and it seems entirely counterintuitive until
- 15:51Speaker 2: you understand the psychology of survival in the context of
- 15:54Speaker 2: coercive control.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:56Speaker 2: When a victim is trying to exit a highly volatile
- 15:59Speaker 2: controlling relationship, Their primary, often subconscious goal is to avoid
- 16:03Speaker 2: triggering an explosive or violent reaction from the abuser. We
- 16:08Speaker 2: often talk about fight or flight, but there is a
- 16:09Speaker 2: third equally powerful trauma response called fawning.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Fawning?
- 16:13Speaker 2: Yes. Fawning is an appeasement strategy.
- 16:16Speaker 1: It's paying a toll to get him out the door.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. By loaning him the car, she is offering
- 16:21Speaker 2: a major concession. She's essentially communicating, you know, we are
- 16:25Speaker 2: breaking up, but I am not your enemy. Look, I'm
- 16:28Speaker 2: still doing you a favor. I'm still useful to you.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:30Speaker 2: She is desperately trying to de-escalate his potential anger and
- 16:34Speaker 2: orchestrate a smooth exit. What she is tragically unaware of
- 16:38Speaker 2: is that to an abuser like Melvin, an exit is
- 16:41Speaker 2: never smooth. An exit represents a total loss of control,
- 16:44Speaker 2: a narcissist's injury that they will almost immediately seek to
- 16:48Speaker 2: violently regain.
- 16:49Speaker 1: That reframes it entirely. It's not a favor. It's survival appeasement. Yes.
- 16:55Speaker 1: And her mother, Jill, sensed the danger immediately.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Right.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Lauren called her mom, explained the breakup, mentioned the car loan,
- 17:02Speaker 1: and said she was meeting him that evening in a
- 17:04Speaker 1: parking lot to get the car back.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Right.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Jill was so terrified of this handoff that she actually
- 17:08Speaker 1: called the University Police Department herself to ask them to
- 17:11Speaker 1: keep an eye on her daughter during the exchange. Oh, wow. Yeah.
- 17:15Speaker 1: The campus police did call Lauren. They offered a security
- 17:17Speaker 1: escort to wait with her. And the actual handoff of
- 17:20Speaker 1: the keys went off without incident. They went their separate ways.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Which is incredibly dangerous because it gave Lauren a false
- 17:27Speaker 2: sense of security.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Totally.
- 17:28Speaker 2: She had two days of relative peace. She returned to
- 17:31Speaker 2: her classes, started picking her life back up, and likely
- 17:34Speaker 2: believed that the fawning strategy had worked. The car was returned,
- 17:38Speaker 2: the ties were cut, and the nightmare was over.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Right.
- 17:41Speaker 2: But that peaceful handoff was just the calm before a
- 17:45Speaker 2: devastating storm. Because a coercive controller doesn't just walk away
- 17:49Speaker 2: when the cord is cut. They escalate their tactics to
- 17:52Speaker 2: reestablish dominance.
- 17:53Speaker 1: And that escalation begins in the form of bizarre, intense
- 17:57Speaker 1: cyber harassment. Lauren starts getting a barrage of text messages
- 18:01Speaker 1: from unknown phone numbers.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:02Speaker 1: These texts are incredibly disturbing and erratic. First, a text
- 18:06Speaker 1: claims Melvin is in the hospital. Then hours later, another
- 18:10Speaker 1: text from a different number says he has passed away. Wow.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Then she starts receiving invitations to his funeral. She contacts
- 18:17Speaker 1: the police and tells them she feels like these unknown
- 18:19Speaker 1: numbers are trying to lure her to a secondary location.
- 18:22Speaker 2: This is pure psychological warfare.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
- 18:25Speaker 2: The objective isn't just to annoy her. It's to induce
- 18:28Speaker 2: a state of constant panic, confusion, and guilt. If he's dead,
- 18:32Speaker 2: she feels responsible for breaking up with him. If he's
- 18:35Speaker 2: in the hospital, it pulls at that empathetic thread to
- 18:38Speaker 2: go check on him. Right. By using multiple unknown numbers,
- 18:42Speaker 2: he creates the illusion of a crowd, a chorus of
- 18:45Speaker 2: invisible people blaming her and watching her every move. It
- 18:49Speaker 2: shatters that two-day peace and plunges her nervous system right
- 18:53Speaker 2: back into a state of hypervigilance.
- 18:55Speaker 1: So she calls the campus police. She tells them about
- 18:57Speaker 1: these strange luring texts. The dispatcher asks if she's told
- 19:01Speaker 1: the numbers to stop texting her.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Ugh.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Yeah. Lauren says she's blocked a few of them, and
- 19:06Speaker 1: the dispatcher casually says an officer will call her back.
- 19:09Speaker 1: But she never receives a call back that day.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
- 19:12Speaker 1: And then the harassment morphs into real, actionable extortion. The
- 19:17Speaker 1: unknown numbers escalate from funeral invitations to outright blackmail. The
- 19:22Speaker 1: techs claim they have compromising intimate photos of Lauren and
- 19:25Speaker 1: Melvin from when they were together. They demand $ 1, 000 or
- 19:28Speaker 1: they threaten to release the images to her friends, her family,
- 19:31Speaker 1: and her athletic coaches. And to prove they aren't bluffing,
- 19:35Speaker 1: they send one of the intimate images directly to Lauren's phone.
- 19:39Speaker 2: And here is where Melvin's manipulation reaches a new sickening
- 19:44Speaker 2: level of depravity. He actually emails Lauren on the morning
- 19:48Speaker 2: of October 13th from his own account claiming that he
- 19:51Speaker 2: is also being blackmailed by these unknown extortionists.
- 19:55Speaker 1: It's so twisty.
- 19:56Speaker 2: He tells her he's terrified too, and he advises her
- 19:58Speaker 2: to just pay the money so it all goes away
- 20:00Speaker 2: for both of them.
- 20:01Speaker 1: It's a brilliantly evil ploy. He positions himself not as
- 20:04Speaker 1: the threat, but as a co-victim in the trenches with her.
- 20:08Speaker 1: fighting a common enemy. Out of pure fear, panic, and
- 20:11Speaker 1: the deep shame associated with having intimate photos exposed, Lauren
- 20:15Speaker 1: actually sends the $ 1, 000 via Venmo to the account provided
- 20:19Speaker 1: by the unknown extortionist.
- 20:20Speaker 2: She must have been terrified.
- 20:22Speaker 1: But shortly after the money leaves her account, the fog clears.
- 20:25Speaker 1: She realizes what's actually happening. She realizes Melvin is the
- 20:29Speaker 1: man behind the curtain. He's the extortionist. So she calls
- 20:32Speaker 1: the campus police again. The dispatcher contacts a University of
- 20:36Speaker 1: Utah police officer named Miguel Deras. Feeling like she isn't
- 20:40Speaker 1: being taken seriously over the phone, Lauren and a friend
- 20:44Speaker 1: physically walk across the massive campus to speak to the
- 20:47Speaker 1: police in person.
- 20:48Speaker 2: I want to emphasize that Lauren did everything society tells
- 20:52Speaker 2: a victim to do.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Everything.
- 20:54Speaker 2: She didn't hide. She didn't stay silent. She physically walked
- 20:57Speaker 2: into a police precinct. She provided Melvin's real name. She
- 21:01Speaker 2: informed the police that he is a registered sex offender
- 21:03Speaker 2: who served nine years for sexual crimes.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:06Speaker 2: She showed them the threatening, luring texts. She showed them
- 21:09Speaker 2: the extortion demands. She showed them the blackmail photo. She
- 21:12Speaker 2: laid out a crystal clear, thoroughly documented, easily provable case
- 21:16Speaker 2: of felony extortion by a known paroled sex offender.
- 21:20Speaker 1: And the institutional response. The police advised Lauren that it's, quote,
- 21:24Speaker 1: probably just a scam and assure her she is in
- 21:27Speaker 1: no real physical danger.
- 21:28Speaker 2: It makes me sick.
- 21:29Speaker 1: They completely fundamentally dismiss her. The young women leave the
- 21:33Speaker 1: station thinking the police are opening an investigation. But the
- 21:36Speaker 1: source material explicitly states that absolutely nothing was done to
- 21:41Speaker 1: apprehend him. Nothing. In fact, it's so much worse than nothing.
- 21:44Speaker 1: We need to talk about the conduct of Officer Miguel Deras.
- 21:47Speaker 2: The actions of Officer Deras represent a profound, sickening betrayal
- 21:52Speaker 2: of public trust. He was provided with copies of the
- 21:55Speaker 2: texts and the extortion image as evidence for a criminal file. Later,
- 21:59Speaker 2: internal investigations reveal that Officer Deras saved that intimate blackmail
- 22:04Speaker 2: image of Lauren... to his personal digital collection on his phone.
- 22:07Speaker 1: It is just beyond words.
- 22:10Speaker 2: He later bragged to a fellow male officer that the
- 22:12Speaker 2: photo was his now, and he could pull it up
- 22:14Speaker 2: and look at it anytime he wanted.
- 22:16Speaker 1: It is stomach-turning. The very person wearing the badge, the
- 22:19Speaker 1: person tasked with protecting this young woman from a sexual predator,
- 22:22Speaker 1: essentially becomes a secondary predator. He is actively exploiting her
- 22:26Speaker 1: extreme vulnerability for his own perverse amusement while her case
- 22:31Speaker 1: gathers dust on his desk. And Lauren... feeling this terrifying
- 22:35Speaker 1: wall of silence from the campus police over the next
- 22:37Speaker 1: few days, decides to escalate it herself.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Good for her.
- 22:41Speaker 1: She calls the Salt Lake City Police Department, a real,
- 22:44Speaker 1: massive municipal police force with homicide detectives and specialized units.
- 22:49Speaker 1: She tells the SLCPD dispatcher, You know, I've been working
- 22:52Speaker 1: with campus police. They haven't updated me at all, and
- 22:55Speaker 1: I'm worried there's an insider or a leak because the
- 22:58Speaker 1: harassers seem to know everything about my movements.
- 23:01Speaker 2: And how does the SLCPD dispatcher respond to a woman
- 23:05Speaker 2: terrified of a paroled sex offender with jurisdictional bureaucracy? The
- 23:09Speaker 2: dispatcher tells her you would want to contact the campus
- 23:12Speaker 2: police back and ask to speak to your detective. Because
- 23:15Speaker 2: her dorm physically sits on university-owned property, the Salt Lake
- 23:18Speaker 2: City police feel they cannot assist her directly. Their jurisdiction
- 23:22Speaker 2: theoretically stops at the invisible border of the college campus.
- 23:25Speaker 1: We had to dive into the mechanics of this because
- 23:27Speaker 1: it infuriates me. Imagine begging for your life. You have
- 23:32Speaker 1: the evidence. You have the name. And the person with
- 23:35Speaker 1: the badge on the other end of the phone essentially
- 23:37Speaker 1: tells you that because your bed is located on the
- 23:39Speaker 1: wrong side of an invisible line on a map, they
- 23:42Speaker 1: can't dispatch your car to help you. It's absurd. How
- 23:45Speaker 1: does a university even have its own autonomous police force
- 23:48Speaker 1: that can block municipal police from intervening?
- 23:52Speaker 2: It's a deeply flawed system born out of a mix
- 23:55Speaker 2: of historical privilege and modern liability. Decades ago, universities employed
- 24:00Speaker 2: simple security guards, essentially night watchmen, to handle drunk students
- 24:05Speaker 2: and parking tickets.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Right.
- 24:06Speaker 2: But over time, especially following legislation like the Clary Act,
- 24:10Speaker 2: which mandated the reporting of campus crimes, universities began transforming
- 24:13Speaker 2: these security forces into fully sworn armed police departments. The
- 24:18Speaker 2: idea was that campus police understand the unique needs of students.
- 24:21Speaker 2: But the reality is that these departments operate in silos.
- 24:24Speaker 2: When a 911 call is made from a cell phone
- 24:27Speaker 2: on campus, it pings a tower that automatically routes the
- 24:30Speaker 2: call to the university dispatch, not the city dispatch.
- 24:33Speaker 1: It creates a bureaucratic moat around the campus.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Exactly. SLCPD could have intervened if they deemed it an
- 24:39Speaker 2: imminent life-threatening emergency. I mean, municipal police always have the
- 24:44Speaker 2: authority to act on state property to prevent a murder.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 24:47Speaker 2: But because the call was coded by dispatch as a
- 24:49Speaker 2: harassment complaint that was already assigned to a campus detective,
- 24:53Speaker 2: SLCPD protocol dictated they kick it back to the primary agency.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Jurisdictional rigidity was prioritized over human survival. Lauren was trapped
- 25:02Speaker 2: in a bureaucratic loop.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And while the police are arguing over boundaries, routing calls,
- 25:07Speaker 1: and filing her literal extortion away as a scam... Melvin
- 25:11Speaker 1: is using this exact window of institutional apathy to drastically
- 25:16Speaker 1: escalate his physical stalking.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where it really ramps up.
- 25:19Speaker 1: We move forward to October 19th. Melvin returns to the
- 25:23Speaker 1: area right outside Lauren's dorm. And his behavior has taken
- 25:26Speaker 1: a highly visible, deeply disturbing turn. He's seen pacing back
- 25:30Speaker 1: and forth in the parking lot. But he is dressed
- 25:32Speaker 1: head to toe as the Marvel Comics character Deadpool, complete
- 25:35Speaker 1: with prop swords strapped to his back.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Wow.
- 25:38Speaker 1: And he is carrying a heavy-looking small black bag.
- 25:41Speaker 2: This is broad daylight.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Broad daylight, right on campus.
- 25:43Speaker 2: The psychological terror of this cannot be overstated. The costume
- 25:47Speaker 2: is bizarre, yes, but it serves a very specific tactical
- 25:51Speaker 2: purpose for a stalker. It's a way to completely hide
- 25:54Speaker 2: his face and identity from security cameras, while simultaneously being
- 25:58Speaker 2: brazenly physically present in her safe space.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Lauren returns from track practice just 45 minutes after he
- 26:05Speaker 1: starts this parading in the parking lot. She goes upstairs
- 26:08Speaker 1: to her room. Literally one minute later, Melvin, still in
- 26:13Speaker 1: the full Deadpool mask and costume, comes to the door
- 26:17Speaker 1: of her specific dorm building. He misses intercepting her by
- 26:20Speaker 1: 60 seconds.
- 26:22Speaker 2: And the terror isn't just physical at this point. It's
- 26:24Speaker 2: completely digital. Around this time, Lauren receives a communication from
- 26:27Speaker 2: Melvin where he explicitly tells her that he knows she
- 26:30Speaker 2: has contacted the police.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:32Speaker 2: He knows she went to the station. This is what
- 26:34Speaker 2: made Lawrence suspect there was a corrupt cop leaking information
- 26:37Speaker 2: to him.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Which is a completely rational conclusion to draw. If your
- 26:40Speaker 1: beezer knows things only the police should know and the
- 26:43Speaker 1: police aren't helping you, you assume they're working together.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Of course you do.
- 26:46Speaker 1: But the truth of how he knew was actually much
- 26:48Speaker 1: more insidious, and it requires no conspiracy.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Yes. The mechanism of his omniscience was digital hygiene. Weeks earlier,
- 26:56Speaker 2: when they were still happily dating... Lauren had used Melvin's
- 26:59Speaker 2: phone to log into her university email account to check something.
- 27:03Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Melvin, anticipating the future need for control, had saved her passwords.
- 27:09Speaker 2: He had a silent back door into her entire digital life.
- 27:12Speaker 2: He was reading her emails in real time. He had
- 27:15Speaker 2: complete undetected access to all her communications with her family,
- 27:19Speaker 2: her friends, and law enforcement.
- 27:21Speaker 1: That's terrifying.
- 27:21Speaker 2: He didn't need a corrupt cop to leak him the
- 27:23Speaker 2: case file. He was a digital ghost sitting in his
- 27:26Speaker 2: apartment reading her scent folder.
- 27:27Speaker 1: The digital stalking gave him omniscience, and the police's inaction
- 27:31Speaker 1: gave him total impunity. Which brings us to the devastating
- 27:34Speaker 1: timeline of the final day, October 22nd. The sources outline
- 27:38Speaker 1: this day with chilling precision. At 6 a.m., surveillance footage
- 27:43Speaker 1: catches Melvin leaving his apartment. He has borrowed a silver
- 27:46Speaker 1: Buick from a neighbor, He drives to Lauren's dorm, approaches
- 27:50Speaker 1: the building on foot, can't get in because it requires
- 27:52Speaker 1: key card access, and wanders off.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Around 9 a.m., Lauren leaves her dorm. She had actually
- 27:59Speaker 2: received a highly suspicious text that morning claiming to be
- 28:02Speaker 2: from a deputy chief with the university police. The text
- 28:05Speaker 2: asked her to come to the station to see some
- 28:07Speaker 2: new evidence, but it explicitly told her not to call
- 28:10Speaker 2: the number back.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Huge red flag.
- 28:12Speaker 2: It was clearly a trap set by Melvin. Because he
- 28:15Speaker 2: was reading her emails, he knew the actual names of
- 28:18Speaker 2: the officers involved in her case and used them to
- 28:20Speaker 2: sound legitimate. Lauren, trusting her gut and realizing how strange
- 28:24Speaker 2: it was for police to text a victim and say,
- 28:26Speaker 2: don't call us, ignores it.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Thank goodness.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Instead, she goes to an appointment with a campus counselor
- 28:32Speaker 2: to get professional psychological help dealing with the severe trauma
- 28:35Speaker 2: of the breakup and the ongoing harassment.
- 28:38Speaker 1: She leaves the counselor's building just under an hour later.
- 28:42Speaker 1: And literally minutes after she walks out of the front doors,
- 28:45Speaker 1: Melvin enters that exact same building. He is actively hunting
- 28:48Speaker 1: her across the campus map. And again, he is carrying
- 28:52Speaker 1: that same heavy, small black bag that he had when
- 28:56Speaker 1: he was dressed as Deadpool. He realizes he missed her
- 28:59Speaker 1: at the counselor's office, so he heads back to her dorm.
- 29:02Speaker 2: And this is where the physical security protocols of the
- 29:04Speaker 2: university completely fail. Melvin manages to finesse his way into
- 29:09Speaker 2: the locked dorm building.
- 29:11Speaker 1: How does he even do that?
- 29:12Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't have a key card. He likely uses
- 29:15Speaker 2: a technique called tailgating, waiting for a student to open
- 29:18Speaker 2: the door and just walking in right behind them, perhaps
- 29:20Speaker 2: claiming he forgot his key or is visiting a friend.
- 29:23Speaker 2: People are inherently polite and rarely challenge someone confidently walking
- 29:27Speaker 2: into a building.
- 29:28Speaker 1: That's true.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Once inside, he actually embeds himself in the common area
- 29:32Speaker 2: with a group of four young male students. He uses
- 29:35Speaker 2: that exact same charismatic charm he used on Lauren, regaling
- 29:39Speaker 2: these young men with intoxication. fabricated stories about being a
- 29:42Speaker 2: combat veteran in the Marines.
- 29:43Speaker 1: He's just hanging out in the lobby of her home.
- 29:45Speaker 1: A registered sex offender is holding court in a college dorm.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Exactly. And as the afternoon wears on, three of the
- 29:52Speaker 2: students eventually leave to go about their day. The fourth
- 29:55Speaker 2: student stays behind in the lounge. Melvin turns to him
- 29:59Speaker 2: and asks if he wants to see what's inside the
- 30:01Speaker 2: black bag.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Melvin unzips it and pulls out a fully loaded. 40
- 30:06Speaker 2: caliber Beretta handgun, along with a full magazine of extra ammunition.
- 30:12Speaker 2: He even lets the student handle the weapon, feeling the
- 30:14Speaker 2: weight of it, before taking it back and putting it
- 30:16Speaker 2: in the bag.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Let's just pause and recognize the absolute insanity of this moment.
- 30:22Speaker 1: A convicted felon on active parole is sitting in a
- 30:24Speaker 1: university dorm lounge. casually showing off a loaded handgun to
- 30:28Speaker 1: a college student just waiting for his target to walk
- 30:31Speaker 1: through the front door.
- 30:32Speaker 2: It's maddening.
- 30:33Speaker 1: It is agonizing to hear how many points of intervention
- 30:35Speaker 1: were missed here. No one called security about the older
- 30:38Speaker 1: man with the gun in the lounge. That evening, Lauren
- 30:41Speaker 1: had been at a late Saturday class. She finishes up
- 30:44Speaker 1: and decides to walk back to her dorm. It's been
- 30:46Speaker 1: a horrific, stressful week, so she calls her parents, Matt
- 30:49Speaker 1: and Jill, just to hear their voices on the short
- 30:51Speaker 1: walk across the dark campus.
- 30:53Speaker 2: And as she walks toward her dorm... Melvin leaves the
- 30:56Speaker 2: building at virtually the exact same time. He has planned
- 30:59Speaker 2: this interception perfectly. He knows the pathways. He knows the
- 31:03Speaker 2: geography of the campus.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Her parents are on the phone, thousands of miles away,
- 31:08Speaker 1: just listening to their daughter describe her day. And then
- 31:11Speaker 1: they hear it. Melvin makes his move. Lauren suddenly screams
- 31:14Speaker 1: into the phone, no, no, no, no, no. And then
- 31:17Speaker 1: the line goes quiet.
- 31:18Speaker 2: It's just devastating.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Matt, her father, immediately grabs a landline and dials 9-1-1.
- 31:24Speaker 1: screaming to the Washington dispatch that his daughter, who was
- 31:27Speaker 1: in Utah, was just grabbed. Jill stays on the cell
- 31:30Speaker 1: phone line, desperately, hopelessly trying to get Lauren to respond.
- 31:34Speaker 2: In that terrifying silence on the phone, the physical reality
- 31:37Speaker 2: was brutally violent. Melvin ambushed Lauren, physically overpowered her, and
- 31:41Speaker 2: dragged her to that borrowed silver Buick parked nearby. He
- 31:45Speaker 2: threw her into the backseat of the car, and he
- 31:46Speaker 2: shot her seven times at nearly point-blank range.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Students walking nearby hear the rapid succession of gunshots. They
- 31:54Speaker 1: run toward the sound and find her belongings scattered on
- 31:57Speaker 1: the pavement, including the phone lying on the ground with
- 32:00Speaker 1: her mother still on the open silent line.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Wow.
- 32:03Speaker 1: A student picks it up, hears Jill screaming, and realizes
- 32:07Speaker 1: he's talking to the parents of a girl who has
- 32:09Speaker 1: just been abducted, or worse. Police from all agencies finally
- 32:13Speaker 1: flood the area. But here's where it gets really interesting,
- 32:18Speaker 1: in the most macabre, sociopathic way imaginable. Look at the
- 32:22Speaker 1: psychology of the killer here. After firing seven shots at
- 32:25Speaker 1: a 21-year-old girl in the back of a car, what
- 32:27Speaker 1: does Melvin do?
- 32:28Speaker 2: He doesn't panic. Right.
- 32:29Speaker 1: He doesn't panic. He doesn't speed off in the Buick.
- 32:32Speaker 1: He doesn't flee the state. He walks away from the
- 32:34Speaker 1: parking lot, crosses a pedestrian bridge, and calmly walks down
- 32:37Speaker 1: the street to a nearby Salt Lake City light rail
- 32:40Speaker 1: train stop.
- 32:40Speaker 2: He sits there patiently on the bench because he's waiting
- 32:43Speaker 2: to be picked up for a date.
- 32:45Speaker 1: A date. 20 minutes after a murder. Yes.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Earlier that exact same day, while he was stalking Lauren,
- 32:51Speaker 2: tracking her movements, and waiting in her dorm lobby with
- 32:53Speaker 2: a loaded gun, He had been swiping on a dating app.
- 32:56Speaker 1: That is just chilling.
- 32:58Speaker 2: He arranged to meet a woman for a first date
- 33:00Speaker 2: that evening. He had told her to pick him up
- 33:02Speaker 2: at this specific light rail station at a specific time.
- 33:06Speaker 2: The unsuspecting woman drives up. He gets into the passenger
- 33:09Speaker 2: seat of her car and they go out for dinner.
- 33:10Speaker 2: They even take a casual romantic walk around the state
- 33:13Speaker 2: capitol building grounds.
- 33:15Speaker 1: He shoots a young woman to death. And 20 minutes later,
- 33:18Speaker 1: he is discussing appetizers and making small talk about the
- 33:20Speaker 1: weather with a stranger. Yeah. It is a level of
- 33:23Speaker 1: psychological compartmentalization and absolute lack of human empathy that is
- 33:29Speaker 1: difficult for a normal brain to even comprehend. And let's
- 33:34Speaker 1: look at the mechanics of this date. He isn't looking
- 33:37Speaker 1: for romance. He is using this poor, unsuspecting woman on
- 33:41Speaker 1: the dating app purely as an escape vehicle to get
- 33:43Speaker 1: him away from the massive police perimeter forming around the
- 33:46Speaker 1: campus and as a way to establish a rock-solid relationship
- 33:49Speaker 1: verifiable alibi during the immediate aftermath of the murder. Right.
- 33:53Speaker 1: He's creating a witness who can say, you know, he
- 33:55Speaker 1: was with me. We were having dinner.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Meanwhile, absolute chaos has descended on the University of Utah.
- 34:01Speaker 2: The entire campus is locked down. Sirens are everywhere. The
- 34:04Speaker 2: parents are frantically calling every dispatch center they can find,
- 34:08Speaker 2: begging for updates on their missing daughter. Eventually, the police
- 34:11Speaker 2: locate the borrowed silver Buick in the parking lot and
- 34:15Speaker 2: they find Lauren inside.
- 34:16Speaker 1: And instantly... The police know exactly who did it. There
- 34:20Speaker 1: is no mystery. There is no who did it. Because
- 34:23Speaker 1: they had been told, repeatedly, in person, with photographic evidence
- 34:27Speaker 1: for over a week, by the victim herself, exactly who
- 34:31Speaker 1: was threatening her life.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:32Speaker 1: But by the time they finally piece it together and
- 34:34Speaker 1: put out the all-points bulletin for Melvin, he is finishing
- 34:37Speaker 1: up his date. He gets dropped off by the woman
- 34:39Speaker 1: in a completely different part of town. But eventually, a
- 34:42Speaker 1: vigilant police officer spots him walking down the street. A
- 34:45Speaker 1: foot chase begins through the dark city streets.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Melvin realizes the net is finally closing. He busts through
- 34:52Speaker 2: the wooden doors of the Trinity AME Church, a historic
- 34:55Speaker 2: 130-year-old church in downtown Salt Lake City. The police immediately
- 35:00Speaker 2: surround the building, setting up a perimeter, knowing he is
- 35:03Speaker 2: armed and highly dangerous. They make tactical entry, moving slowly
- 35:07Speaker 2: room to room. And before they can confront him, they
- 35:10Speaker 2: hear a single gunshot echo through the sanctuary. Melvin Sean
- 35:15Speaker 2: Rowland took his own life inside the church.
- 35:17Speaker 1: The manhunt ends. But the reckoning for the university community
- 35:22Speaker 1: and for the nation was just beginning. Because the immediate
- 35:26Speaker 1: question on everyone's mind was, how?
- 35:28Speaker 2: Exactly. How does this happen?
- 35:30Speaker 1: How does a young woman beg for help, hand the
- 35:32Speaker 1: police the name, the criminal record, the threatening texts, the
- 35:35Speaker 1: extortion photos, the motive, and the opportunity of her stalker,
- 35:38Speaker 1: and just get completely ignored?
- 35:40Speaker 2: The postmortem of the institutional failure in this case is staggering.
- 35:44Speaker 2: The most glaring, unforgivable question was why the campus police
- 35:47Speaker 2: department didn't run a simple background check on Melvin the
- 35:51Speaker 2: very minute Lawrence sat in their office and gave them
- 35:53Speaker 2: his name.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Which, let's be clear, takes about 30 seconds on a
- 35:56Speaker 1: computer connected to the NCIC database.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Exactly. Had they run his name through the system, they
- 36:01Speaker 2: would have seen not only his horrific prior convictions for
- 36:04Speaker 2: sexual crimes, but they would have seen his current legal status.
- 36:07Speaker 2: He was actively on parole.
- 36:09Speaker 1: Let's push that further. Why didn't they run it? It's
- 36:13Speaker 1: not just laziness. It's a fundamental bias in how police
- 36:17Speaker 1: view domestic complaints.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
- 36:21Speaker 1: When a young woman comes in to complain about an
- 36:23Speaker 1: ex-boyfriend too often, law enforcement filters that through a lens
- 36:28Speaker 1: of college drama rather than criminal threat. Right. If a
- 36:32Speaker 1: bank manager called and said a guy named Melvin was
- 36:35Speaker 1: threatening to rob the vault, they would run his name instantly.
- 36:38Speaker 1: But because it was a boyfriend threatening a girlfriend, they
- 36:41Speaker 1: didn't even type his name into the keyboard. It's infuriating.
- 36:44Speaker 1: And the sources highlight just how tragic this specific oversight was.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Journalists later tracked down and interviewed Melvin's actual state parole officer.
- 36:54Speaker 1: And the parole officer stated unequivocally that if the campus
- 36:57Speaker 1: police had made a single phone call to alert him
- 37:00Speaker 1: that Melvin was attempting to extort money and make threats...
- 37:03Speaker 1: Melvin would have been immediately arrested. Immediately. The parole violation
- 37:06Speaker 1: doesn't require a trial to pull you off the street.
- 37:09Speaker 1: He would have been detained that day and thrown right
- 37:12Speaker 1: back into prison for violating his parole conditions. One phone
- 37:15Speaker 1: call from Officer Dieris to the Department of Corrections would
- 37:18Speaker 1: have saved her life.
- 37:19Speaker 2: It highlights a fatal flaw in siloed policing. The campus
- 37:23Speaker 2: police treated the complaint as a localized, low-level university annoyance,
- 37:28Speaker 2: a scam or a bad breakup. rather than treating Melvin
- 37:31Speaker 2: as a citizen subject to state-level monitoring. They failed to
- 37:35Speaker 2: connect the dots that were handed to them on a
- 37:37Speaker 2: silver platter.
- 37:38Speaker 1: We also have to ask a mechanical question regarding the weapon.
- 37:41Speaker 1: How did a convicted felon on active parole, who cannot
- 37:44Speaker 1: legally walk into a gun store, even get his hands
- 37:46Speaker 1: on a. 40- 0 caliber Beretta?
- 37:48Speaker 2: The investigation uncovered a classic and unfortunately incredibly common legal
- 37:53Speaker 2: loophole used by felons to arm themselves, which is the
- 37:56Speaker 2: straw purchase. Right. Melvin got the gun from an associate
- 37:59Speaker 2: named Nathan Vogel, who was also a convicted felon and
- 38:02Speaker 2: therefore also prohibited from buying a firearm. Because Vogel couldn't
- 38:06Speaker 2: buy a gun himself, he used his new girlfriend.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Look at the timeline here. Vogel and this woman had
- 38:12Speaker 2: only known each other for 11 days. She had absolutely
- 38:15Speaker 2: no criminal history. She thought they were building a serious
- 38:18Speaker 2: romantic relationship. And Vogel manipulated her into going to a
- 38:22Speaker 2: sporting goods store.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Wow.
- 38:23Speaker 2: She filled out the ATF form 4473. passed the background check,
- 38:28Speaker 2: and legally purchased the gun for him. Vogel then immediately
- 38:32Speaker 2: handed that gun straight to Melvin.
- 38:34Speaker 1: And it brings us right back to the beginning of
- 38:35Speaker 1: the relationship, when Melvin was trying to pressure Lauren into
- 38:39Speaker 1: buying a handgun at the range under the guise of protection.
- 38:43Speaker 1: When Lauren, who had strong boundaries, refused to be a
- 38:45Speaker 1: straw purchaser, he just went to his felon buddy, who
- 38:48Speaker 1: had successfully manipulated a different woman into doing it.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Vogel eventually turned himself in when he saw the news
- 38:54Speaker 2: and realized what the gun he procured was used for.
- 38:57Speaker 2: He pled guilty to federal firearms charges.
- 38:59Speaker 1: As he should.
- 39:00Speaker 2: And in a showing of incredible grace at the McCluskey
- 39:03Speaker 2: family's specific request, the girlfriend's trial was suspended for 18 months,
- 39:08Speaker 2: provided she stayed out of trouble. The evidence clearly showed
- 39:11Speaker 2: she was completely manipulated by Vogel and was totally unaware
- 39:15Speaker 2: of the lethal intent behind the purchase.
- 39:17Speaker 1: So the people who provided the gun faced the justice system.
- 39:20Speaker 1: But what about the enablers in uniforms? What happened to
- 39:23Speaker 1: Officer Miguel Derris, the campus cop who saved Lauren's extortion
- 39:27Speaker 1: photo to his personal phone for his own gratification?
- 39:30Speaker 2: The lack of justice regarding Officer Derris is deeply frustrating
- 39:34Speaker 2: and highlights the immense difficulty of prosecuting police misconduct.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 39:39Speaker 2: When the internal investigations began and the heat got turned up,
- 39:42Speaker 2: Officer Derris quietly resigned from the University of Utah campus police. Astonishingly,
- 39:48Speaker 2: He then managed to get hired by the nearby Logan
- 39:50Speaker 2: Police Department, moving on to patrol a new city as
- 39:53Speaker 2: if nothing happened.
- 39:54Speaker 1: You have got to be kidding me.
- 39:55Speaker 2: It wasn't until the media got hold of the internal
- 39:57Speaker 2: reports and publicly broke the story of his specific actions
- 40:01Speaker 2: regarding the photo that Logan PD immediately fired him.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But surely saving a victim's extortion photo for personal use
- 40:08Speaker 1: and showing it off to colleagues is a crime, right?
- 40:11Speaker 2: You would certainly think so. The local district attorney attempted
- 40:14Speaker 2: to file criminal charges against him under the state's revenge
- 40:17Speaker 2: pornography law for mishandling evidentiary pictures and displaying them to
- 40:22Speaker 2: another officer. However, those charges were ultimately dropped.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Dropped? Why?
- 40:27Speaker 2: The mechanics of why they were dropped are infuriating. The
- 40:30Speaker 2: official reason given by the DA was that a forensic
- 40:33Speaker 2: beta download from Deros' phone proved inconclusive.
- 40:36Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack forensics for a second. How can a
- 40:39Speaker 1: download of a phone be inconclusive? Either the photo was
- 40:41Speaker 1: there or it wasn't.
- 40:43Speaker 2: It comes down to how digital data is stored and overwritten,
- 40:46Speaker 2: and the high burden of proof in criminal court. If
- 40:49Speaker 2: Deras deleted the photo from his phone before investigators seized it,
- 40:53Speaker 2: the specific sectors of the flash memory holding that data
- 40:56Speaker 2: might have been overwritten by new data, like a new
- 40:59Speaker 2: text message or a system update. Forensic tools like Celebrate
- 41:02Speaker 2: can often recover deleted items, but not always. Furthermore, revenge
- 41:07Speaker 2: pornography statutes are often written very narrowly. They usually require
- 41:12Speaker 2: proof of distribution, meaning sending the photo to someone else's device.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And he didn't send it. The DA claimed that simply
- 41:20Speaker 2: showing the screen of his phone to another officer in
- 41:23Speaker 2: the hallway might not meet the strict statutory definition of
- 41:27Speaker 2: distribution required for a felony conviction. So despite acknowledging the
- 41:31Speaker 2: profound moral harm caused by the officer's conduct, the DA
- 41:35Speaker 2: claimed they lacked the legal framework to pursue the case further.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Lauren's mother, Jill, said she was absolutely shocked that the
- 41:42Speaker 1: district attorney didn't pursue justice. She pointed out that Lauren
- 41:46Speaker 1: had engaged in so many phone calls, so many texts,
- 41:50Speaker 1: multiple in-person visits with this department. She trusted them to
- 41:53Speaker 1: operate as professionals and they fundamentally betrayed her. The family
- 41:56Speaker 1: realized that if the criminal justice system wasn't going to
- 41:58Speaker 1: hold the institution accountable and if qualified immunity was going
- 42:01Speaker 1: to protect the individuals, they would have to force accountability
- 42:04Speaker 1: through the civil courts.
- 42:05Speaker 2: The McCluskey family filed two massive civil lawsuits against the
- 42:09Speaker 2: University of Utah and its campus police department, citing gross incompetence, negligence,
- 42:15Speaker 2: and violations of Title IXs. They sued for a total
- 42:18Speaker 2: of $ 56 million. Eventually, they reached a settlement out of
- 42:22Speaker 2: court for $ 13. 5 million.
- 42:24Speaker 1: And the breakdown of that money is really telling about
- 42:28Speaker 1: how systemic change actually happens in this country. Of that $ 13. 5 million... $ 10. 5
- 42:33Speaker 1: million came directly from the university's risk management insurance company. Right.
- 42:37Speaker 1: The remaining $ 3 million was routed to the newly formed
- 42:40Speaker 1: Lorne McCluskey Foundation, which focuses on campus safety, animal welfare,
- 42:45Speaker 1: and amateur athletics. But I want to focus on that
- 42:47Speaker 1: insurance payout because this is where the real mechanism of
- 42:50Speaker 1: change lies.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 42:51Speaker 1: The McCluskey family specifically stated their hope that this massive
- 42:55Speaker 1: payout will cause insurance actuaries worldwide to look at campus
- 42:58Speaker 1: police departments. If an insurance company sees a police department
- 43:02Speaker 1: that routinely ignores women or dismisses their fears as college drama,
- 43:06Speaker 1: that insurance company is going to view that department as
- 43:09Speaker 1: a massive financial liability.
- 43:11Speaker 2: It's a grim reality, but financial liability often drives institutional
- 43:15Speaker 2: policy change much faster than moral obligation ever could. If
- 43:19Speaker 2: it costs a university $ 10 million in increased premiums every
- 43:23Speaker 2: time their police department dismisses a stalking victim, their protocols
- 43:27Speaker 2: are going to change overnight. Following the settlement, the university
- 43:30Speaker 2: did issue a formal public statement. They built a new
- 43:34Speaker 2: indoor track training facility named in Lauren's honor, and they
- 43:38Speaker 2: publicly admitted, quote, we failed Lauren and her family.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Wow.
- 43:42Speaker 2: They acknowledged that their employees failed to fully understand the
- 43:45Speaker 2: lethality risk and failed to respond appropriately, and they promised
- 43:48Speaker 2: to completely overhaul their policing protocols.
- 43:51Speaker 1: We failed Lauren. It's a heavy admission, but a deeply
- 43:55Speaker 1: necessary one. So what does this all mean for us today?
- 43:58Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, there are
- 44:00Speaker 2: three critical takeaways a listener should absorb from this tragedy. First,
- 44:05Speaker 2: the absolute necessity of believing women when they report feeling unsafe.
- 44:09Speaker 2: The empirical data on domestic violence shows that victims of
- 44:12Speaker 2: stalking are often the most accurate predictors of their own
- 44:15Speaker 2: lethality risk. If a woman says she is in danger,
- 44:19Speaker 2: the default institutional response must be immediate, overwhelming intervention, not skepticism.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Absolutely. Second.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Law enforcement must systematically dismantle the boyfriend problem culture. Domestic
- 44:32Speaker 2: violence and stalking cannot be treated in a vacuum as
- 44:34Speaker 2: private squabbles. A background check is the absolute bare minimum.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Abusers usually have a history. Connect the dots. And third,
- 44:43Speaker 2: on a very practical level for anyone listening, this case
- 44:45Speaker 2: highlights the terrifying importance of digital hygiene. When you are
- 44:50Speaker 2: exiting a toxic relationship, you must assume your digital life
- 44:52Speaker 2: is compromised. Change every password, log out of all active sessions,
- 44:57Speaker 2: check your car for air tags, and check your phone
- 44:59Speaker 2: for hidden tracking apps. Lauren's physical stalking was entirely enabled
- 45:03Speaker 2: by digital stalking.
- 45:04Speaker 1: It's a terrifying reality of modern relationships. But before we
- 45:08Speaker 1: sign off, I want to leave you, the listener, with
- 45:11Speaker 1: a final provocative thought that really screams out from the
- 45:14Speaker 1: facts of this case. We live in an era where
- 45:17Speaker 1: millions of young adults live their entire lives on university campuses.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:23Speaker 1: These campuses function like self-contained mini cities. They have their
- 45:26Speaker 1: own housing, their own restaurants, their own hospitals, and yes,
- 45:29Speaker 1: their own private police forces. But looking at how SLCPD
- 45:33Speaker 1: was blocked from helping Lauren, we have to ask ourselves,
- 45:36Speaker 1: should universities even be allowed to have their own private
- 45:39Speaker 1: autonomous police forces handling violent felonies?
- 45:42Speaker 2: This raises an important question about the illusion of safety.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Exactly. Because when Lauren called the real city police, the
- 45:49Speaker 1: Salt Lake City PD, They told her they couldn't help
- 45:51Speaker 1: because of an invisible jurisdictional line. Does the very existence
- 45:55Speaker 1: of campus police create a dangerous bureaucratic bubble?
- 45:58Speaker 2: It really seems like it.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Does it isolate vulnerable students, keeping them away from actual
- 46:03Speaker 1: municipal law enforcement detectives who are trained to handle homicide risks,
- 46:08Speaker 1: extortion rings and paroled sex offenders? Yeah. If that jurisdictional
- 46:12Speaker 1: line didn't exist and the 911 call went straight to
- 46:15Speaker 1: a downtown city precinct, would a real city detective have
- 46:18Speaker 1: run Melvin's name on day one?
- 46:19Speaker 2: Probably.
- 46:21Speaker 1: It's something you really need to seriously think about as
- 46:23Speaker 1: we send the next generation off to these cloistered campus environments.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I would like to request some help from my daughter.
- 46:29Speaker 1: I don't want her to go there by herself and have, like,
- 46:31Speaker 1: something bad happen to her. A mother knew. The friends knew.
- 46:35Speaker 1: The victim knew. It is long past time the system
- 46:39Speaker 1: caught up. Thank you for joining us on this deep dive.
- 46:41Speaker 1: Stay curious, check your digital security, and please look out
- 46:45Speaker 1: for one another.