Latest / Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50 / ENCORE EPISODE: REDEFINING OUR ROLE FROM HOST TO GUEST IN MID LIFE AND BEYOND
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- 0:04Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back.
- 0:11We've nationally acclaimed professional organizer Christine
- 0:14Stone and self-proclaimed Hot Damn Mess radio and TV
- 0:19personality Eden Kendall. Welcome everyone to Uncluttered
- 0:26and Unfiltered, the podcast for women over 50 with me, Eden and
- 0:29Christine Stone, who is a professional organizer, which is
- 0:31going to come into play probably more on personality than
- 0:36anything else in this episode because our topic is, and we're
- 0:39going to get into that this shortly when the host wait, when
- 0:43the Hostess becomes the guest. Yes.
- 0:45Right, because that's a whole new turn of events and that is
- 0:48actually something that is going to occur in your life.
- 0:51Yes, I'm having a hard time with it.
- 0:53So we are going to explore what it means when you are the
- 0:57perpetual host and now you have been invited to be the guest,
- 1:00whether that's Thanksgiving, Christmas dinner parties, what
- 1:05have you. Staying overnight is usually in
- 1:08play. So we want to really get into
- 1:10that. So, but before we do that, there
- 1:13is a big messy piece of drama going on in the world of The
- 1:20Golden Bachelor. And we're not talking about and,
- 1:24and stick with us even if you don't watch this show, because
- 1:26we're not talking about that haphazard attempt of a Golden
- 1:29Bachelor season that just occurred where none of us could
- 1:32make it through all the way because it was so awful.
- 1:35And everyone knew none of them really wanted Mel, and Mel
- 1:37really didn't want any of them. And he ended up with Spoiler
- 1:41Alert 3 21 peg, and that was only because Cindy dropped out
- 1:48at the last minute, so he really only had one left standing.
- 1:52But I is. Is this true?
- 1:54That he's with somebody totally different now.
- 1:56I had not heard that, but I have no.
- 1:58Doubt that that's true. I could have just thought, I
- 2:00could have just thought about that.
- 2:01Out in my mind that that's a high possibility.
- 2:04I'm sure that's possibly the case.
- 2:05But no, we're talking about the very first Golden Bachelor,
- 2:10Gary. That's spelled G.
- 2:13Spelled like Jerry. But he's scary.
- 2:15But he's Gary. And I didn't like him then and I
- 2:17don't like him now. You called him a CAD at one
- 2:21point. It was the greatest thing ever.
- 2:23I did you just. Use the word CAD.
- 2:26I was not a fan of him at all. So he ended up with Teresa and
- 2:31they were married for 5 minutes and she walked away and kept it
- 2:35classy. Yeah, I thought, and.
- 2:37He walked away. And wrote a book and wrote a.
- 2:39Book. So in his book, he took all
- 2:43kinds of potshots at Teresa, who finally said, I don't think I'm
- 2:47going to stay silent anymore. He's a CAD.
- 2:49Yeah, yeah. Well, the one that got me the
- 2:51most being the true crime junkie that I am.
- 2:55Where he said? Where?
- 2:57He said. He could cut her limbs off and
- 2:58put her in the shed over there. I'm like.
- 3:01What is this? Dateline.
- 3:02I mean, that is the most bizarre thing.
- 3:06Now here's the thing though, I was not a big Teresa fan either.
- 3:11And and but she doesn't. Deserve that.
- 3:14OK. But I'm I'm a little.
- 3:16Shocked that that. She kind of has taken it the.
- 3:21Way she has to like I. Think she should have come out?
- 3:24Way earlier. And I think the glove should
- 3:26have been off. Because this guy's crazy.
- 3:30Yeah. Crazy.
- 3:31He is sucking up his moments of fame like what they are, which
- 3:37is a evaporating bowl of milk. He's like, I got to go quick, I
- 3:41got to go quick. People who are losing interest.
- 3:42And it it was very interesting to me that his book came out
- 3:45right at the same time that there was a new fresh season.
- 3:48Of the Bachelor like right? Really.
- 3:51And just the whole thing was it was a terrible idea.
- 3:55Whoever said to him this is a good idea was not somebody who
- 3:59was doing it out of friendship. It was somebody who thought we
- 4:03could make a quick buck here. Yeah.
- 4:05And I don't don't know anyone who would buy that book.
- 4:07But don't give it away as a holiday gift.
- 4:09I can tell. You that Yeah, right now I I
- 4:12think that. Did you watch?
- 4:15The wedding. His wedding, No.
- 4:17I did not. Oh, I watched.
- 4:18You reported it on, you reported on it so well that I felt as the
- 4:23way you did. It.
- 4:23I I could tell the whole. Thing was fake at the wedding.
- 4:27The whole thing I. Could tell that it was just ATV.
- 4:32And she has said now since then she knew and was just kind of go
- 4:36along with it, going along with it.
- 4:37But he said that he really knew that it wasn't going to work.
- 4:40And so she just said, well, why didn't you tell me?
- 4:44I mean, she's poor thing over here just but then again, she
- 4:48kind of is. Well, she's very complicit in it
- 4:50as well. Then I think.
- 4:51She's very complicit, I kind. Of feel like when you sign up
- 4:54for that kind of thing, it's very difficult to have my
- 4:56sympathies. Right.
- 4:58But the writing of the book is just rock bottom.
- 5:02Oh, and he's telling how he. Wishes he would have picked the.
- 5:05Other one, you know what I mean I mean.
- 5:07Really, I I just. Think he is a very strange.
- 5:12Bird I just. Think that.
- 5:13She's lucky she got out. Alive.
- 5:15And I'm not joking when I say. No, he he was showing her the
- 5:18lake. Right.
- 5:19Where he he lives. And he was saying, like over
- 5:21here, yeah, it's very, you know, there's a lot of solitude.
- 5:24It's very quiet. I could totally cut you up and.
- 5:29Hide your body and yeah, OK, well it's been fun and I got.
- 5:32To go, Yeah. Put a lot of thought into this.
- 5:35Or, I'm telling you, I hope they don't do another golden
- 5:39bachelor. It's it's, it's unfortunate.
- 5:42It's too fake. It's too fake.
- 5:46It's not ever going to be real. Because I just think it was a
- 5:49poor idea. To begin with.
- 5:51There's a one of my favorite sitcoms on is Ghosts on CBS and
- 5:56one of the characters happens to also be a favorite character of
- 5:59mine just because I love the actor.
- 6:01He he visits our city a lot because he's a huge fan of our
- 6:05team. But his name is Asher Grodman
- 6:06and his his character is Trevor and he's a ghost and he's
- 6:10watching, he can only watch what's been put on TV for him.
- 6:12So he's like complaining about the Golden bachelor.
- 6:15He's like, I can't stand it. I'm watching all these old bags.
- 6:17You know, it would be good if they would do the show, but put
- 6:19younger people on it and they're like, there isn't.
- 6:22There. Is 1.
- 6:23There is a show like that. I don't don't like the younger
- 6:26ones either, but I. Don't either, but nobody's
- 6:28asking me to watch. That.
- 6:30Yeah, no ones asking us to watch the younger one because we
- 6:33wouldn't, but. Sky Rizzy isn't putting all
- 6:35their marketing money in that one.
- 6:37Right, exactly. Now we've moved on to some other
- 6:43condition that I don't know what.
- 6:44It is that they're advertising. Yeah.
- 6:46Well, there's this thing for wet eye.
- 6:47I don't know what that. Is wet.
- 6:50Wet something? Wet something?
- 6:52Yeah, I know. It's like, really?
- 6:54I'm getting all of these conditions.
- 6:57I know you are, too. Just watching the commercials,
- 7:00right? Yeah.
- 7:01OK, let's get into our subject, shall we?
- 7:04Tell us about the host becoming the guest.
- 7:06OK, so this. Is my first.
- 7:08Year. Ever.
- 7:10Ever. And I'm 63, not hosting
- 7:13Christmas and the reason is because my daughter.
- 7:17Just had a. Baby and she's not going to
- 7:20travel with a newborn. Obviously, so I have had to
- 7:24really sit with this. And be.
- 7:26OK with. Not being.
- 7:28The Hostess because. You know me.
- 7:31That's like. Right up my.
- 7:32Alley. OK, that's.
- 7:34My thing and. So I have decided.
- 7:39To embrace it and it's been a challenge.
- 7:43OK. But I'm I'm embracing the good.
- 7:46Parts of it. Which are.
- 7:48Well, normally the day after Thanksgiving I start to become a
- 7:52crazy person because I'm getting ready.
- 7:55For everybody to. Come and I'm decorating the
- 7:58house and blah blah blah. Well, I don't have to.
- 8:00Do this this year because. We won't be here, you know what
- 8:04I mean? So.
- 8:05That's a bit. Freeing.
- 8:07So I'm actually going to enjoy the after Thanksgiving weekend
- 8:12and not be ripping my hair out of my head trying to get
- 8:15everything looking, you know, perfectly.
- 8:18Good. Next up, I'm enjoying not having
- 8:21to cook and clean because. There will be food.
- 8:26Some that I will cook, but mainly you know.
- 8:30Everybody will be. Bringing something and it'll be
- 8:32more that type. Normally I'm the one that cooks
- 8:35everything and does everything and I think.
- 8:38The whole. Experience.
- 8:40Of it like. Waking up Christmas morning and
- 8:43we have our initial Christmas mugs that everyone, it's like
- 8:47traditions. And I think that's also
- 8:50something I've had a real hard time grappling with.
- 8:53That they're they're. We're trying to bring some of
- 8:56the traditions, but it's going to be different and I really.
- 9:00Have to. Like, you know, put a different
- 9:04mask on and really. Say this is.
- 9:06Going to be good and I'm going to be I'm going to be into it.
- 9:10Because you're too. You you're not at that place
- 9:13right now. Your kids aren't married and I
- 9:16would have never thought. That like.
- 9:18Even three years ago. What do you mean no one's coming
- 9:21to my house for? Christmas, but it's.
- 9:24Happening and here it is and. Was she nervous to tell you?
- 9:28I think she was, yeah. I think I.
- 9:32Think she really kept avoiding it?
- 9:34Until she actually. Had the baby and was like, look
- 9:39mom, she's an infant, you know she's.
- 9:41Real, she's. Here right?
- 9:42Right. So do you wanna fly with her?
- 9:43Because I don't wanna fly. With right, right.
- 9:45So I think. Yes.
- 9:47And of course. I totally get it.
- 9:49I've had. Kids of my own young kids and
- 9:51it's. So hard to travel.
- 9:53Back then versus. How crazy it?
- 9:56Is right now. So I totally.
- 9:59Get it. And I've had to, you know, just
- 10:02say it's time to shift, you know, the way you think.
- 10:06So it is a mindset, and I'm certain that we have listeners
- 10:09right now who are saying, Yep, I went through this last year.
- 10:12I know I'll be going through it next year or even this season
- 10:15just like you are. So what are some of the things
- 10:18you're going to implement? Are you going to make changes to
- 10:21your psyche? Are you going to do meditation
- 10:24every morning? How are you going to make this
- 10:26go down? Well, I went on ChatGPT.
- 10:28Oh Lord, oh. Lord and I asked, how am I
- 10:32supposed? To behave as the guest.
- 10:35Instead of the. Hostess.
- 10:37At Christmas time. For.
- 10:40A family member and I have to say.
- 10:43I do love. ChatGPT.
- 10:45Now will I be following all of these?
- 10:47I'm going to try. I really am going to try but the
- 10:50first one is. Arrive with gratitude.
- 10:52Not expectations. Let her know how proud you are
- 10:56that she's creating a home and hosting with your own with her
- 10:59own style now. I agree with that.
- 11:02It's her. Style her Christmas.
- 11:05Her way of. Doing things.
- 11:07So I do have to embrace. That.
- 11:09And say this. Is how you move on as your kids.
- 11:13Get older. And have their old own family.
- 11:16So that's the first thing I'm going to do.
- 11:18I'm going to. I'm going to.
- 11:19Have gratitude. And not expectations.
- 11:23OK, next. Let her lead.
- 11:25That I'm grappling with. I'm going to do it, but I'm
- 11:28grappling. So even if you you've hosted.
- 11:32For decades. It's now her turn.
- 11:34And I have to. Let her do it.
- 11:36Follow her rhythm, her plans. And her way look.
- 11:40At you. Look at me, you're so.
- 11:41Involved. I know I'm.
- 11:43For an old lady. Right, I'm going to be a new
- 11:45person after this. Week offer help.
- 11:48Don't take over another thing I'm grappling with.
- 11:51How are you going to do that? Let's pretend you're a role
- 11:53play. Yeah, let's roll play.
- 11:55OK, I am washing the wine glasses.
- 12:01I'm about to put those babies in the dishwasher.
- 12:03Is that OK? It all depends.
- 12:07Are they real? Are they real?
- 12:09If not, you can put them in the dishwasher.
- 12:12Other than that, we need to hand wash them and let them air dry.
- 12:15How are you going to tell me? Honey.
- 12:20Are those real? Do you think we should hand wash
- 12:22those? I don't know, these are the ones
- 12:23you and Dad got us for, blah blah blah.
- 12:26Yeah, then they are real honey. So we're not.
- 12:30OK, so I'll do it. I'll do it.
- 12:32OK, so you offered to. Help.
- 12:34Yeah. Ioffer, you're not telling me
- 12:35what to do. No, I'll do it.
- 12:37Good job. Thank you.
- 12:38OK, compliment her. Choices.
- 12:42Her decorating? Her cooking, her traditions and
- 12:45show her. That you see that that the care
- 12:48she's. Putting into it.
- 12:50OK. I mean.
- 12:51Make sure those are real compliments.
- 12:53Now you can taste how hard you tried, right?
- 12:56Right, right. I mean, listen.
- 12:58She's. Going to be.
- 13:00A lovely host she will, of course.
- 13:02I I. Think it's more.
- 13:04About. Control and letting.
- 13:05Go of like. Everything.
- 13:08Doing it the way you've done it for a million years, you know
- 13:11what I mean? And letting someone else pick up
- 13:15the baton, as they say. And I agree.
- 13:19I mean, I think it's, I think it's time.
- 13:22I'm. I'm not.
- 13:23Overly thrilled. But it's time bring something
- 13:26thoughtful. OK.
- 13:28That's something you would do. I know that I know.
- 13:29This not controlling. Oh, what was your example?
- 13:34Flowers. OK, a small host to skip nothing
- 13:37that. Suggests she should do the
- 13:40holiday the way you used. To so I don't bring out their
- 13:44name plates. That I've had forever.
- 13:46That I served. Them food on hey.
- 13:48But wouldn't that be cute? No.
- 13:51I don't know. I was thinking, I was thinking
- 13:53about it, but then I'm like, is that too?
- 13:55Forward. To just bring their name plates
- 13:57over and. Say we.
- 13:59Remember when you used to eat off these and then they give me
- 14:02this? Look like Really.
- 14:03You brought. Them all the.
- 14:04Way. Fine China.
- 14:05She's. All excited, right?
- 14:07You brought them all the way. Now you're making us eat off
- 14:10them, and I'm a mom with two kids.
- 14:12That's a tough one. Is that a tough?
- 14:15One respect her household. Routines.
- 14:18OK. Bedtimes, kids rules mealtimes
- 14:21flow with the rhythm she. Well, you got a good taste of
- 14:24that recently, so I don't worry about you.
- 14:25There, Yeah, I mean also in my opinion.
- 14:29Like I've said. Before whatever, Mama.
- 14:31Says goes especially. When it comes.
- 14:34To the kids. Be calm in the room.
- 14:38Holidays can be. Stressful for the young host.
- 14:41Your pressure can be grounding. Gentle energy she leans on.
- 14:45OK, so. I have to learn to be the calm
- 14:49one. Yeah, I have.
- 14:51To be the calm one in the room. Share stories, not instructions.
- 14:56If she asks for advice, offer. Offer it softly.
- 14:59How do you offer softly advice? I mean.
- 15:01It's really hard to get anything by them these.
- 15:04Days, it's hard to. Even sounds passive aggressive
- 15:06if you do that, doesn't it? Well, I could.
- 15:08See my daughter saying you don't really.
- 15:11Like it you're. Just saying that or you know
- 15:13what I mean, like I do think they can read my facial
- 15:16expressions at this point and then I'll.
- 15:19Always say what I always. Say no.
- 15:21I love it. You're doing great.
- 15:24I love it. And then she'll No, you don't.
- 15:27You're just saying that so. I think we've.
- 15:29Been down this road before but I really am going to make a.
- 15:32Bigger effort to. Keep my mouth shut and just let
- 15:35her do things the way the way she wants to do it and just be
- 15:39helpful, you know, find joy in the shift.
- 15:44Now, after reading this, I really did think about this.
- 15:47Find joy in the shift. You've done the years of
- 15:49hosting, now you. Get to just show up.
- 15:52Cuddle the grandkids, sip something warm and enjoy.
- 15:56The day without. Coordinating the whole.
- 15:58Show. There you go, you can do it.
- 16:02I can do it. You can.
- 16:04Do this. I can.
- 16:05Do this you. Guys and I'm going to report.
- 16:07Back after after this. And I'm going to let you know,
- 16:12and I'm even going to make my daughter give me a report card
- 16:14on how I did. Will she do the podcast?
- 16:19She would call in. I think she could.
- 16:21I do. I think she would call.
- 16:24In but I am good. I am going to give a really.
- 16:28Big effort to just step aside. And let her.
- 16:31Let it be her, all right? OK.
- 16:35We need her on the pause. And thanks ChatGPT, because
- 16:38I've. Really, really learned a lot.
- 16:40Oh, I think we all did and we all can't wait, cannot wait.
- 16:45All right, if you are going through something similar, by
- 16:47all means let us know on our ladies only uncluttered and
- 16:49unfiltered Facebook page that is a private group, but we'll let
- 16:52you in. Just ask.
- 16:54And we have every other social media out there as well.
- 16:56So find us, share us with a friend, and no matter where
- 17:01you're spending your holidays, we want you to have a lovely,
- 17:04safe, healthy 1 and do like I said, share your stories and
- 17:08remember being always being the host and never being the guest.
- 17:11Looks like it's time for Christine to let that.
- 17:13Go and don't look back. That's too.