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- 0:04Speaker 1: A gorgeous mother of three goes missing, her family distraught
- 0:11Speaker 1: what happened to Maya Millette? End of the last hours
- 0:16Speaker 1: a major break in the case as the family hung
- 0:29Speaker 1: out in the wind and twisted their hands trying to
- 0:33Speaker 1: find Maya MILLETI I want you to hear something. I
- 0:37Speaker 1: want you to hear Maya herself listen and dreams. I
- 1:13Speaker 1: could listen to her play the guitar and sing all day.
- 1:19Speaker 1: And what is haunting me right now is the fact
- 1:23Speaker 1: that her children, three children. Lazarus has just turned five,
- 1:31Speaker 1: may Alannie has just turned ten, Laura may is just eleven.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Can you imagine what the children have been going through
- 1:42Speaker 1: without their mother. They've got the pictures, they've got her clothes,
- 1:48Speaker 1: they can listen to her recordings, but they don't have her.
- 1:53Speaker 1: So when I hear her singing and playing her guitar,
- 1:57Speaker 1: it's very bittersweet. Again. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, with me an all
- 2:04Speaker 1: star panel to make sense of the breaking news we
- 2:07Speaker 1: are just getting right now. First of all, Paul Best,
- 2:11Speaker 1: reporter joining us from Fox News and Fox Business. Joseph
- 2:15Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University. Author of Blood
- 2:19Speaker 1: Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and start of a brand
- 2:22Speaker 1: new hit series on iHeart podcast Body Bags with Joe
- 2:26Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. Founder and director of the Coalcase Research Institute,
- 2:30Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. You can find her at Coalcasecrimes dot org.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall's Psychoanalyst to the Stars, joining us out
- 2:38Speaker 1: of La. She's the star of a new Netflix series,
- 2:41Speaker 1: Bling Empire. Matthew Mangino, former prosecutor in Lawrence County, now
- 2:47Speaker 1: a private practor practice, author of The Executioner's Toll, Richard
- 2:52Speaker 1: Juliet with me a family member and joining me is
- 2:58Speaker 1: Maya Sister Mary Chris, Mary Chris. I can't imagine what
- 3:07Speaker 1: you the family have been through. Guys. Before we start
- 3:11Speaker 1: with Mary Chris, take a listen to Abbie Alfred cbs
- 3:14Speaker 1: Ne's eight thirty nine year old Maya Mullett, who also
- 3:17Speaker 1: goes by may A Rule Vista, mother of three, who
- 3:20Speaker 1: has not been seen since Friday, January eighth. It's been
- 3:23Speaker 1: a nightmare, it's been it's been faithful heart raking her
- 3:28Speaker 1: sister Mary Chris. Julie says that Maya's nine year old
- 3:31Speaker 1: daughters are her last inside there Sa Miguel Ranch home.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Her family says that her jeep and Lexus are still
- 3:36Speaker 1: parked at the house. She's always on her phone, but
- 3:40Speaker 1: her phone was been off like the whole day Friday. Mmmmm,
- 3:44Speaker 1: I mean right there, Paul, Bess, you and I have
- 3:46Speaker 1: gone round and round and round about Maya. She's last
- 3:49Speaker 1: seen in the home, according to her own children. Now see,
- 3:54Speaker 1: I have two children, and I'm sure they could tell
- 3:57Speaker 1: you Paul the last time that they me. He's just
- 4:00Speaker 1: a couple of hours ago. They could probably tell you
- 4:03Speaker 1: what I was wearing and vice versa. So you've got
- 4:05Speaker 1: the children saying this is where mommy is, and you've
- 4:09Speaker 1: got her jeep and the vehicles are still in the garage.
- 4:13Speaker 1: That should be a big tip off. Right there where
- 4:17Speaker 1: is Maya? Yeah? Absolutely. The San Diego County District Attorney
- 4:22Speaker 1: kind of laid out those curious movements on January seventh.
- 4:28Speaker 1: They actually she actually described a triggering event quote on
- 4:33Speaker 1: January seventh, Maya's last phone call to a divorce attorney
- 4:38Speaker 1: on that day. Later that night, around eight pm, Maya
- 4:41Speaker 1: sent her last messages to a Facebook group for her family.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Around eight or so PM, and then her phone activity
- 4:50Speaker 1: stopped Paul's for the last time ever on January eighth,
- 4:54Speaker 1: just hours later at one thirty AM. Okay, hold on,
- 4:58Speaker 1: Ryan there, Paul Bass. I'm trying taking all the information
- 5:01Speaker 1: you're giving me. Paul Best has been on the story
- 5:03Speaker 1: from the very beginning Fox News and Fox Business reporter.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So she was using her phone, texting and sending messages
- 5:10Speaker 1: the evening before she disappears. Is that right, Paul Best? Yes,
- 5:14Speaker 1: And you know what, Cheryl McCollum, we're seeing this right
- 5:17Speaker 1: now in the Gabby Petito Brian Laundry manhunt, where cell
- 5:22Speaker 1: phones and use of electronic devices may crack the case.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And here we have her there at home the night
- 5:32Speaker 1: before she goes missing. Her children say, mommy was home.
- 5:36Speaker 1: That's when I saw her last. It's not like she
- 5:39Speaker 1: went hiking. It's not like she went to the mall.
- 5:42Speaker 1: It's not like she went out for a jog. We
- 5:44Speaker 1: don't have any of that. Do you remember, um, Sherry
- 5:48Speaker 1: Peppini what wasn't her first name, Sherry? And she went
- 5:51Speaker 1: jogging and we knew that because she had told her
- 5:54Speaker 1: husband she was going jogging. So we need ship where
- 5:57Speaker 1: she was for instance, on Long Island jogger Karina Vatranto,
- 6:02Speaker 1: she said to her parents, Hey, I'm gonna go jogging.
- 6:04Speaker 1: We knew where she went. Here the children are telling
- 6:07Speaker 1: us mommy's home the last time they see her. She's
- 6:10Speaker 1: using her phone the night before. That tells me a lot.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Everything in her world was okay at that time. Yes, no, Well,
- 6:17Speaker 1: these patterns are very important, the patterns of her being
- 6:21Speaker 1: on social media throughout the day when she was not
- 6:24Speaker 1: taking care of the children. She had a habit of
- 6:26Speaker 1: contact in her family every single day, and if anybody
- 6:30Speaker 1: contacted her, she would respond fairly quickly. What's concerning a
- 6:34Speaker 1: little bit is, yes, the children are saying that she's
- 6:36Speaker 1: home and that she's been home, but they're not seeing her.
- 6:41Speaker 1: You're jet on, you're dat on. You know what. Wherever
- 6:46Speaker 1: I am the twins find me. If I'm back in
- 6:49Speaker 1: my room researching, if I'm up front of the kitchen,
- 6:51Speaker 1: wherever i am they find me. I'll see the door
- 6:54Speaker 1: crack and they look here. I mean, they will find you.
- 6:58Speaker 1: But they didn't see mommy, but they say she was there,
- 7:01Speaker 1: So what gives with that? Take a listen to our
- 7:04Speaker 1: cut number five. This is Vanessa van hyped ABC ten.
- 7:08Speaker 1: It appears she took her phone but is not responding.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I like, I says to her. You know, I don't
- 7:13Speaker 1: know if she's getting there, but say or call someone
- 7:20Speaker 1: came her jeep. It's still at home and no one
- 7:22Speaker 1: has seen or heard from her. Maybe one of her
- 7:26Speaker 1: friends could. And you know, Maya works as a defense
- 7:33Speaker 1: contractor at Naval Base San Diego. It didn't show up
- 7:36Speaker 1: for work on Monday. I call her boss. Didn't even
- 7:40Speaker 1: walk here. And that's the other alarments part, because work
- 7:43Speaker 1: for her is like party part of her, that's her outlet.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Milie Ate says he will continue to search anxiously awaiting,
- 7:52Speaker 1: but I don't even know what d it is. That's
- 7:54Speaker 1: how speaking guy to feel that, you know, Okay, right there,
- 8:04Speaker 1: and you see me exchanging sideways glances with Jackie here
- 8:08Speaker 1: in the studio, because I mean, I'm just telling you
- 8:10Speaker 1: right there, Doctor Bethany, if you don't know if your
- 8:14Speaker 1: wife went to a wine tasting or whether she went hiking,
- 8:19Speaker 1: then you've got a very big communications problem, because if
- 8:23Speaker 1: you're gonna go wine tasting, it's got to be at
- 8:27Speaker 1: a wine event or a vineyard. You're going to need
- 8:31Speaker 1: somebody to drive you home, a way to get home.
- 8:35Speaker 1: If I were going to go to a wine tasting,
- 8:37Speaker 1: I probably would take my husband with me. Also, if
- 8:40Speaker 1: I'm going hiking, you say, hey, I'm going hiking on
- 8:45Speaker 1: X the trail. You have the gear, you're dressed to
- 8:48Speaker 1: go hiking. So when your husband says something like, well,
- 8:53Speaker 1: she either went to a wine tasting or she went hiking,
- 8:57Speaker 1: and I think her friends picked her up. Now, unless David,
- 9:02Speaker 1: my husband, has me totally fooled. He's at work right now.
- 9:08Speaker 1: He is working on something that I consider to be
- 9:11Speaker 1: incredibly boring, some business deal. That's what I think he is.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because when he left he had on
- 9:18Speaker 1: a business looking outfit. He had his backpack with all
- 9:22Speaker 1: of his research and blah blah blah, a lot of
- 9:24Speaker 1: paper stuffed in there. And he called in route and said,
- 9:29Speaker 1: I'm on my way to work. How does this guy
- 9:33Speaker 1: not know if his wife went hiking or to a
- 9:35Speaker 1: wine tasting, Nancy, There's so many clues our spouses give us.
- 9:40Speaker 1: I mean, my husband's a judge. I knew when he
- 9:42Speaker 1: left for work this morning that he had a trial.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I knew what the trial was. About I had a
- 9:47Speaker 1: sense of when the trial was going to end. Cheryl
- 9:49Speaker 1: McCollum said something very important that there are patterns in life.
- 9:53Speaker 1: There's patterns to social media, to her social media. If
- 9:56Speaker 1: she was supposed to go to a wine tasting, there
- 9:59Speaker 1: would be a pattern of care for the four year
- 10:02Speaker 1: old child, who's going to care for the four year old,
- 10:04Speaker 1: who's going to care for the ten or eleven year old.
- 10:06Speaker 1: There would be a pattern of friendship, texting the friends,
- 10:09Speaker 1: arranging the rides home. You know, when somebody, either in
- 10:14Speaker 1: this case the husband, gives too many details, I think
- 10:18Speaker 1: they're lying, or when their story holds that's very vague,
- 10:22Speaker 1: they're lying. But the dichotomy if she's either gone hiking
- 10:25Speaker 1: or to a wine tasting, that doesn't even make sense
- 10:29Speaker 1: to me. What are you going to wear your hiking
- 10:30Speaker 1: boots and your shorts and all your gear and your
- 10:33Speaker 1: backpack and your helmet whatever you're going to take to
- 10:37Speaker 1: a wine tasting and a big party? Okay? And with
- 10:41Speaker 1: the wine tasting you have friends, right, so there would
- 10:44Speaker 1: be friends who would have been with her. You don't
- 10:46Speaker 1: go wine tasting alone? Yeah? What friend? What friend picked
- 10:50Speaker 1: her up? And don't they have a ring, doorbell or
- 10:53Speaker 1: surveillance in the neighborhood or the home where you see
- 10:58Speaker 1: who comes to pick them up. I want to go
- 11:13Speaker 1: out to our very special guests joining us. It's Maya's sister, Mary,
- 11:18Speaker 1: Chris and Richard, Juliet and guys, I feel like I
- 11:24Speaker 1: know you because we have been studying this and trying
- 11:27Speaker 1: to figure out her disappearance like a Rubik's cube for
- 11:31Speaker 1: so many months now. A lot of prayers have gone
- 11:35Speaker 1: up regarding the disappearance of your sister Mary Chris, and
- 11:39Speaker 1: I've got to ask the question. I may not know
- 11:42Speaker 1: everything my husband's doing all day long. I may not
- 11:45Speaker 1: want to know everything he's doing all day long, but
- 11:47Speaker 1: I know this. We have the twins covered. We know
- 11:50Speaker 1: who's taking them to school, we know who's picking them up,
- 11:52Speaker 1: who's taking them to the Orthodonis and to Scouts and
- 11:55Speaker 1: to this and to that. It's covered. Nobody goes anywhere
- 12:00Speaker 1: without the twins being covered. So who would take care
- 12:04Speaker 1: of these babies now five, ten and eleven? Yeah, you know,
- 12:08Speaker 1: um ninety at that time, you know it's been just
- 12:13Speaker 1: to them. Larry and my sister is taking care of
- 12:16Speaker 1: the kids. But you know, um that segment from from
- 12:20Speaker 1: Larry Is and totally a lot. Um. We knew that
- 12:24Speaker 1: since the beginning. Um, and you mean about the hiking
- 12:27Speaker 1: and the wine tasting. Yeah, yeah, you know she's she's
- 12:31Speaker 1: not considering this day. That weekend is her daughter's eleventh birthday.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Oh no, whoa wait wait, you just jogged my memory
- 12:44Speaker 1: memory Mary Chris with me is my sister Mary Chris,
- 12:47Speaker 1: and you and I talked about the birthday. Can I
- 12:50Speaker 1: tell you the drama surrounding the twins upcoming birthday, the planning,
- 12:57Speaker 1: the invites, the evites, is that the pizza the birthday.
- 13:02Speaker 1: That's an ordeal grande. That's like a Broadway production. From
- 13:07Speaker 1: what I remember, Maya really planned out the birthday and
- 13:12Speaker 1: there is no way in h e double l she's
- 13:16Speaker 1: gonna go get a snoop fill at the wine taste
- 13:19Speaker 1: and when she's supposed to be doing the birthday. I
- 13:22Speaker 1: remember that distinctly. Tell me about the birthday plans for
- 13:25Speaker 1: the eleven year old, right, it's a snowboarding event for
- 13:32Speaker 1: the family. We were going to take them to to
- 13:34Speaker 1: be their resort here in California. So, um, that's her
- 13:39Speaker 1: eleven year old, that's what she wants to want, you know,
- 13:41Speaker 1: the outdoor stuff. She's very active, so she wants to
- 13:45Speaker 1: go snowboarding and she had planned it to celebrate with family.
- 13:49Speaker 1: We rented a cabin and Big Bear and for her
- 13:54Speaker 1: to you know, not do anything or tell us anything
- 13:57Speaker 1: about about that birthday party that if it's canceled or
- 14:01Speaker 1: anything like that, you know, she could have told us.
- 14:04Speaker 1: And she's not going to you know, to any wine
- 14:07Speaker 1: pasting or any hypeing at that time. She's looking forward
- 14:12Speaker 1: and celebrating her daughter's eleventh birthday. You know, I found
- 14:16Speaker 1: something very interesting that Chryl McCollum said, and she's absolutely correct.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eleven Tyler if you
- 14:29Speaker 1: would play that. This is Abby offered from CBS News eight.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Cheryl pointed out the children said Mommy's home, but they
- 14:37Speaker 1: didn't see her. Listen. Mary Chris says that her sister's
- 14:40Speaker 1: bedroom was locked and she wasn't inside. Her sister confirms
- 14:44Speaker 1: that Larry and might have argued the night before she
- 14:46Speaker 1: went missing, but didn't say about what policity that Larry
- 14:49Speaker 1: is cooperating. They searched the house twice and have not
- 14:52Speaker 1: found evidence of a crime. And I'm not issued search warrants,
- 14:55Speaker 1: but have several detectives investigating Maya's disappearance. It's so pretty.
- 15:00Speaker 1: His family says that she loved the outdoors, hiking and
- 15:02Speaker 1: adored her kids. She's fun loving, She's absolutely keep us
- 15:06Speaker 1: going despite being active outdoors and online. Police say she's
- 15:10Speaker 1: left no digital footprint. No digital footprint. I want to
- 15:15Speaker 1: go back to Mary, Chris Juli and Richard Juli. Let
- 15:18Speaker 1: me understand, Richard, what does this mean that she is
- 15:21Speaker 1: at home but the bedroom was locked. Yeah, I guess. Larry,
- 15:28Speaker 1: my brother in law, went out there Friday and jack
- 15:31Speaker 1: on his sister, and when he got there, Larry said
- 15:34Speaker 1: that she had been in her room for eleven hours
- 15:36Speaker 1: that Friday, which is kind of odd because the kids.
- 15:41Speaker 1: You get to think, who's seeing the kids, who's seeing
- 15:43Speaker 1: things ready for the weekend. But he knew that there
- 15:46Speaker 1: was a big argument on Thursday, so he kind of
- 15:48Speaker 1: just left it alone. Maybe she just needed, you know,
- 15:50Speaker 1: to air out, or just wanted some time alone. So
- 15:55Speaker 1: it's just it's weird that that Larry didn't check up
- 15:57Speaker 1: on her. He wasn't even concerned about her. Well, Dean, Uh,
- 16:01Speaker 1: that Friday. It was just kind of like Okay, it's
- 16:04Speaker 1: been one day, what's going on? But my brother went
- 16:07Speaker 1: checked it out and then he said, yeah, she's in
- 16:09Speaker 1: her room. She's locked. And the next day my father
- 16:13Speaker 1: in law Saturday morning, my father in law went to
- 16:16Speaker 1: check on his daughter and Larry magically had the keys
- 16:19Speaker 1: to open up the door that Saturday morning. And when
- 16:23Speaker 1: we why didn't they just not well, I think they did,
- 16:26Speaker 1: but she just kind of I guess it was more
- 16:29Speaker 1: like giving them the benefit of the doubt that you know,
- 16:31Speaker 1: maybe she just needed some time off because there was
- 16:34Speaker 1: a big argument and he didn't want to intervene in
- 16:37Speaker 1: their relationship that much, A big argument about what. I
- 16:41Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not sure on that darning you know, yes,
- 16:46Speaker 1: yes I knew. Um. Okay, so um there's again you know,
- 16:50Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's been around um you know, um, I
- 16:55Speaker 1: mean it's been a rocky relationship with them. So um,
- 16:59Speaker 1: there's in an issue. You know, it's you know, it's
- 17:02Speaker 1: going to be out there anyway. So I'm not going
- 17:05Speaker 1: to sugarclot on my sister. You know, they she was
- 17:09Speaker 1: linked to someone at work. Okay, wait, are you trying
- 17:12Speaker 1: to tell me the husband thought she was having an affair. Well, no,
- 17:15Speaker 1: she's not, you know, it wasn't confirmed, but he is
- 17:19Speaker 1: accusing her. Okay, so they're having a fight because he's
- 17:23Speaker 1: suspicious of a coworker. Correct, Okay, now, but I don't
- 17:27Speaker 1: get it's why they don't just on the door, Tyler,
- 17:30Speaker 1: please play our cut twelve. This is an investigative producer
- 17:34Speaker 1: or CBS News eight, David Gofferdson. I went in the
- 17:37Speaker 1: house and I immediately noticed the windows, all little bit
- 17:40Speaker 1: of fans on full blasts. Was chilly in the house.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Attorney Billy Little went inside the Chula Vista home of
- 17:48Speaker 1: Maya Millett on Monday, January eleventh and conducted a walkthrough
- 17:53Speaker 1: with her husband Larry, days after the woman went missing.
- 17:56Speaker 1: I was mostly at that point scene if I can
- 17:58Speaker 1: smell anything, if I smell any bleach, her smell, the
- 18:02Speaker 1: smell of a dead body, and of course there's absolutely
- 18:05Speaker 1: no smell. Family members confirmed they contacted a little to
- 18:09Speaker 1: help them find the missing mother of three. When I
- 18:12Speaker 1: went to the bedroom, immediately noticed a whole probably ten
- 18:19Speaker 1: inches long by about six eight inches tall, rectangular shape
- 18:25Speaker 1: that have been freshly repaired. Okay, wait a minute, so
- 18:28Speaker 1: there's a big hole in the bedroom door that has
- 18:31Speaker 1: just been repaired. Her sister, her brother, all very disturbed.
- 18:36Speaker 1: The children say, Mommy's home, but nobody can see her.
- 18:39Speaker 1: She won't answer the bedroom door. Tyler, please play our
- 18:42Speaker 1: cut thirteen again. David Gottfitsen. For months now, Little has
- 18:47Speaker 1: been collecting evidence, including hundreds of text messages sent in
- 18:51Speaker 1: twenty twenty by Maya's husband, Larry, to friends and family.
- 18:55Speaker 1: He started by complaining to family members, started by accusing
- 19:02Speaker 1: his wife of having May of having an affair, going
- 19:05Speaker 1: to her supervisor, insisting that male co workers being moved,
- 19:10Speaker 1: with absolutely no evidence that there was no affair going on.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Some of the messages included photos. This one looks like
- 19:18Speaker 1: an altar with lit candles. Others include biblical quotes talking
- 19:22Speaker 1: about adulterous women, like this one saying her feet go
- 19:26Speaker 1: down to death, her steps lead straight to the grades.
- 19:30Speaker 1: And started ramping up as twenty twenty went on, and
- 19:34Speaker 1: as may started moving more and more towards a divorce,
- 19:40Speaker 1: he became more and more desperate. Little says, the day
- 19:43Speaker 1: Maya contacted a divorce attorney is the last day anybody
- 19:47Speaker 1: heard from her. I am very very concerned and was concern.
- 19:51Speaker 1: When I first heard about this, I guess hate shrine
- 19:57Speaker 1: built to Maya. Do you did you describe that for me? Mary,
- 20:03Speaker 1: Chris and I everyone else I didn't see you know
- 20:09Speaker 1: or I've getten non until you know it's jonehun on
- 20:12Speaker 1: the news, hold on, Paul Best, can you describe it
- 20:15Speaker 1: for me? M yeah, Nancy. So apparently in September twenty twenty, Larry,
- 20:22Speaker 1: as the district attorney lad out yesterday, started displaying increasingly
- 20:26Speaker 1: erratic behavior. He created the shrine in September twenty twenty
- 20:29Speaker 1: that had a picture of the couple in the middle
- 20:32Speaker 1: surrounded by candles, and then what appears to be either
- 20:34Speaker 1: blood splatter or red candle wax around the picture. It's
- 20:38Speaker 1: very bizarre. And then also quickly to note, around October,
- 20:43Speaker 1: November December of twenty twenty, Larry apparently started in listing
- 20:47Speaker 1: spell casters. Okay, what spell casters? Yeah. The district attorney
- 20:53Speaker 1: said yesterday that around December of twenty twenty that became
- 20:57Speaker 1: much more threatening. Larry started trying to catch spells on
- 21:02Speaker 1: Maya that she would have broken bones or getting an
- 21:05Speaker 1: accident so that she could stay home. And then also
- 21:08Speaker 1: just if we could go back for a second to
- 21:10Speaker 1: Larry kind of idea that there was another man involved,
- 21:15Speaker 1: which is again, like Marka said, is unconcerned, but this
- 21:19Speaker 1: is coming from him apparently on January ninth. Wait, do
- 21:22Speaker 1: you actually think, Paul Best that I'm going to take
- 21:25Speaker 1: the word of a guy that creates a hate shrine
- 21:28Speaker 1: and hires spellcasters to break his wife's bones so she'll
- 21:34Speaker 1: stay home from work. Mary Chris, I was mortified when
- 21:52Speaker 1: I found out he would call her supervisor at work
- 21:56Speaker 1: and insist that a male coworker be transferred. Can you
- 22:00Speaker 1: even imagine your husband calling your boss and insisting some
- 22:05Speaker 1: guy you're not dating, and he's insisting the guy be transferred.
- 22:11Speaker 1: How embarrassing to start with. And now, did you have
- 22:16Speaker 1: any idea he was hiring a spellcaster to put spells
- 22:22Speaker 1: on his wife? Yeah, I good mentioned how desperate he became.
- 22:27Speaker 1: You know it was in a way, you know, I
- 22:35Speaker 1: still unable to wrap my mind around it. How you
- 22:39Speaker 1: know how got behaviorally? Did I ever let onto you
- 22:45Speaker 1: what he was up to his bizarre behavior? No? No,
- 22:50Speaker 1: she she was still trying to protect him. Oh gosh, guys,
- 22:56Speaker 1: In the last hours, there is breaking news in this
- 23:00Speaker 1: search for Maya take a listen to our cut twenty two.
- 23:04Speaker 1: This is our longtime co worker and friend at Inside Edition,
- 23:10Speaker 1: Jim Murray. It's a jarring moment for least from the
- 23:13Speaker 1: night a Mom disappeared. You can hear six loud bangs
- 23:20Speaker 1: that sound like gunshots. The terrifying audio was captured on
- 23:28Speaker 1: a neighbors through Baila camera at NPM. Missing Mom Maya,
- 23:32Speaker 1: Miliet's neighbor provided the recording to KFMBTV San Diego. Maya's
- 23:37Speaker 1: sister says she shared an ominous premonition that something might
- 23:41Speaker 1: happen to her and who would be responsible. She did
- 23:44Speaker 1: said she if anything happens to her, you might be
- 23:50Speaker 1: might be her husband. Maya and Larry were high school
- 23:53Speaker 1: sweethearts and had been married for twenty one years, but
- 23:56Speaker 1: she was reportedly ready to end the marriage and had
- 23:59Speaker 1: scheduled an appointment with a divorce attorney the same day
- 24:02Speaker 1: she disappeared. She said that she's filing for the divorce,
- 24:07Speaker 1: and then that she said it's going to be a
- 24:10Speaker 1: nasty divorce. To Matthew Mangino, high profile lawyer joining US
- 24:15Speaker 1: former prosecutor and author, Matthew we all know the statistics.
- 24:21Speaker 1: The most dangerous time for a woman, an abused woman,
- 24:26Speaker 1: whether it's emotionally, verbally, or physically, it's when she finally
- 24:30Speaker 1: decides to leave, but she finally takes that step, calls
- 24:35Speaker 1: a divorce attorney, demands a divorce, wants to break up.
- 24:39Speaker 1: That is a single most dangerous time for a woman
- 24:43Speaker 1: in an abusive relationship. Yes, no, well, no question about that, Nancy,
- 24:48Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a coincidence that she disappears
- 24:52Speaker 1: on the day that she makes this call to a
- 24:56Speaker 1: divorce attorney. You know, we see erratic behavior bild up
- 25:00Speaker 1: to this and then all of a sudden, you know,
- 25:02Speaker 1: she gathers the strengths to call an attorney to discuss
- 25:08Speaker 1: divorce and she disappears. So so I don't think that
- 25:11Speaker 1: that's the coincidence in any way, the timing of that,
- 25:15Speaker 1: and it certainly lends itself, you know, to this whole
- 25:18Speaker 1: idea that that is when a woman is most vulnerable
- 25:24Speaker 1: in terms of domestic violence and or in this case,
- 25:29Speaker 1: possibly murder. Take a list of our cut twenty four
- 25:32Speaker 1: rock Saint Kennedy the chief of police. Today at eleven
- 25:35Speaker 1: forty two am, the Lives the Police of Art was
- 25:39Speaker 1: swat team surge and arrest Horrant and arresting Larry and
- 25:43Speaker 1: meeting for Larry was taken into Tusti's home and was
- 25:51Speaker 1: alone at the time of his arrest. And I know
- 25:54Speaker 1: many of you are all very concerned about me. Children.
- 25:59Speaker 1: I want you to know at their state, I hear
- 26:01Speaker 1: the cheering and the happiness at the announcement that Maya's husband,
- 26:08Speaker 1: Larry Milette, has been arrested. But that's not the end
- 26:14Speaker 1: of the story. Take Ales SNAr Cut twenty three, NBC seven.
- 26:17Speaker 1: The district attorney says that she filed the case against
- 26:21Speaker 1: Milette yesterday and then he was there. He was charged
- 26:25Speaker 1: with the murder of his wife. He was also charged
- 26:27Speaker 1: with the possession of the illegal assault breakfume. This morning
- 26:31Speaker 1: at eleven forty two, he was arrested at his home
- 26:34Speaker 1: with the help of the US Marshals and the FBI.
- 26:37Speaker 1: He's currently being held right now in jail without bond. Now,
- 26:42Speaker 1: the DA laid out a litany of facts, However, most
- 26:45Speaker 1: of their case is circumstantial. What they don't have is
- 26:49Speaker 1: are the remains of may But what they do have,
- 26:54Speaker 1: according to the district attorney, is proof is no longer
- 26:57Speaker 1: alone for nine months. There is no fools of life.
- 27:02Speaker 1: She went on to say later, may Milette had a
- 27:05Speaker 1: bank account and had money in it, and over the
- 27:07Speaker 1: nine months, she's never touched it. That she's never posted
- 27:10Speaker 1: on social media, she's never texted, her called, even though
- 27:13Speaker 1: she's a person that would call family members daily. So
- 27:16Speaker 1: when she talks about proof of life, what she means
- 27:17Speaker 1: to say is there is no proof that she is
- 27:21Speaker 1: still alive. Straight out to Maya sister, Mary Chris, Mary, Chris, Julia,
- 27:30Speaker 1: you have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but what you
- 27:32Speaker 1: don't have is Maya's body. Why we can we can't
- 27:39Speaker 1: find her? You know she did I don't know he
- 27:44Speaker 1: could tell Katy Boy of her um. It's just been horrible,
- 27:51Speaker 1: but you know, we have to continue looking for her.
- 27:57Speaker 1: We're going to be searching for her a soul a
- 28:01Speaker 1: sty This is just the beginning again. And now that
- 28:05Speaker 1: we have more leads, we've got to find that body.
- 28:08Speaker 1: We've got to find the body because when this case
- 28:12Speaker 1: goes to court, the jury might think she's dead, but
- 28:17Speaker 1: the state has to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
- 28:20Speaker 1: And yes, a case can be prosecuted without a body,
- 28:24Speaker 1: but I do not want this guy to slip through
- 28:27Speaker 1: the fingers of justice. Where is Maya? Paul Best joining
- 28:32Speaker 1: me Fox? And he used an Fox Business Paul again,
- 28:34Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. You hear Mary Chris's voice,
- 28:38Speaker 1: You hear Richard Juliet's voice. They're exhausted there at the
- 28:43Speaker 1: end of their rope. This has been months and months
- 28:46Speaker 1: and months trying to get answers and they can't find
- 28:51Speaker 1: the body. Why is that? What am I hearing about him?
- 28:56Speaker 1: Driving for what? Eleven hours the night or around the time?
- 29:02Speaker 1: Tell me about that. Yeah. So on Friday Jane Varry eight,
- 29:05Speaker 1: the day after Maya apparently disappeared, he left with his
- 29:09Speaker 1: youngest son around seven am. He told police that he
- 29:13Speaker 1: went to Salana Beach, but he was gone for eleven hours.
- 29:17Speaker 1: In twenty minutes, he skipped work. His boss was calling Maya,
- 29:21Speaker 1: calling Larry's dad trying to figure out where he was, saying,
- 29:24Speaker 1: this isn't like Larry. He left his phone at home
- 29:27Speaker 1: so that there was no way to track him. And
- 29:30Speaker 1: then I do want to say, just to quickly give
- 29:32Speaker 1: you a sense of how wide the area is that
- 29:36Speaker 1: authorities are currently searching for Maya's remains. Which, as you
- 29:40Speaker 1: just alluded to, is going to be key in this
- 29:42Speaker 1: case when it eventually does go to trial. The district
- 29:46Speaker 1: attorney said yesterday that the navigation system on Larry's Lexus
- 29:52Speaker 1: that he was driving for eleven hours on that Friday,
- 29:55Speaker 1: registered a quote navigation event two and a half hour
- 30:00Speaker 1: before he returned home, and that navigation event was for
- 30:03Speaker 1: his home address. So basically, what police are saying is
- 30:06Speaker 1: that there is a two and a half hour drive
- 30:08Speaker 1: radius around the two of easta home that he shared
- 30:12Speaker 1: with his wife, where her remains could potentially be. That's
- 30:17Speaker 1: according to police, and that's a big area. To the east,
- 30:20Speaker 1: you can get to u May, Arizona, and two hours
- 30:23Speaker 1: to the north, you can get to Los Angeles in
- 30:25Speaker 1: two and a half hours, and then of course to
- 30:27Speaker 1: the northeast there's countless state and national parks and wilderness.
- 30:32Speaker 1: So it's a white search area right now. Let's bring
- 30:48Speaker 1: in professor of forensics jacksonvill State University, host of a
- 30:53Speaker 1: brand new hit series on iHeart podcast, Bodybags, which Jose
- 30:56Speaker 1: to Scott Morgan. Just Scott, do you know how I
- 30:59Speaker 1: feel when somebody says they only have circumstantial evidence? Let
- 31:04Speaker 1: me remind everybody under the law, the black and white
- 31:07Speaker 1: letter of the law, and this is read verbatim to
- 31:11Speaker 1: the jury before the jury begins deliberations. Circumstantial evidence is
- 31:17Speaker 1: as probitive as powerful as direct evidence, such as an eyewitness,
- 31:22Speaker 1: a fingerprint, or DNA. It is considered to be as
- 31:26Speaker 1: powerful as direct evidence under the law. So when somebody says, well,
- 31:30Speaker 1: there's only circumstantial evidence, that's a line of bs. But
- 31:35Speaker 1: I will admit I'd rather have direct evidence too. So
- 31:40Speaker 1: Joe Scott, that's where you come in. How are we
- 31:43Speaker 1: going to prove this case? Yeah, you know, there's a bit,
- 31:46Speaker 1: there's a bit of information that I was curious about.
- 31:49Speaker 1: My understanding is that I guess it was probably the
- 31:53Speaker 1: eighth the family allegedly went to the home, or maybe
- 31:58Speaker 1: it was the tenth I can recall, and there they
- 32:01Speaker 1: saw bath mats being drawed out, they saw trash cans
- 32:04Speaker 1: being drawed out, and there was a distinctive smell of bleach. Okay, wait, wait,
- 32:08Speaker 1: let's let's confirm that. Richard drew Ali and Mary Chris
- 32:13Speaker 1: drew Ala, what can you tell me about that we
- 32:16Speaker 1: were there Sunday? I, well, we actually were there Saturday night. Um,
- 32:21Speaker 1: you know, the bed was cleaner, you know. Um, the
- 32:26Speaker 1: um there was a comforter that was missing. Uh. And
- 32:29Speaker 1: then Sunday, Um, wait what did you say was missing?
- 32:32Speaker 1: I didn't quite what comfort or missing? Okay, right, and
- 32:36Speaker 1: then and and Sunday, Um we were there too, looking.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Um the house is a mes um. It's because his
- 32:45Speaker 1: terns just moved out. And then um, we were there
- 32:50Speaker 1: Monday also the auntie. The aunt start cleaning the house.
- 32:55Speaker 1: That's when Billy Little was their alternety Billy Little um
- 32:59Speaker 1: one and walked through with Larry around the house. That's
- 33:04Speaker 1: when he smelled the bleach, the bleach and saw bath
- 33:07Speaker 1: mats drying out, Yes, over trash cans. Nancy you I
- 33:11Speaker 1: want to just go to Bethany and chery along something
- 33:13Speaker 1: hold of thought, Joe Scott, because it's going to tie
- 33:15Speaker 1: into what your analysis is going to be. I think,
- 33:18Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, I'm generally speaking, I don't like a mess
- 33:25Speaker 1: in the home, and I don't know if that's some
- 33:27Speaker 1: kind of compulsion, but I don't want the children to
- 33:29Speaker 1: grow up in a messy environment. So I think from
- 33:34Speaker 1: what I've learned about Maya, she was the same way.
- 33:37Speaker 1: And the fact that the house was in a mess.
- 33:40Speaker 1: To me, that means something because if people came into
- 33:45Speaker 1: our home and it looked like a cyclone hit it,
- 33:49Speaker 1: they would know I had not been there because that
- 33:52Speaker 1: bothers me gets under my skin. Now that's a behavioral thing.
- 33:56Speaker 1: It may mean nothing to somebody else, but that tells
- 33:59Speaker 1: me Maya was dead that day. Because Nancy, this is
- 34:04Speaker 1: yet another break in the pattern. Right, the fact that
- 34:08Speaker 1: all of her social media stopped on down the road.
- 34:12Speaker 1: We're talking about no money which drawn from her bank account.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum was talking about the patterns on her social
- 34:18Speaker 1: media who she contacted. But what happens in the home
- 34:22Speaker 1: when you have a four year old, a ten year
- 34:24Speaker 1: old and an eleven year old is extremely important. You're
- 34:28Speaker 1: preparing there as lunches for school. You're making sure their
- 34:31Speaker 1: clothes are laid out, you have towels ready for them.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I mean, a good mother does care about her home.
- 34:38Speaker 1: And so this was a dramatic break in the pattern.
- 34:42Speaker 1: And she is no dummy, guys. She had a really
- 34:46Speaker 1: impressive job. Paul Best explained what she did. Wasn't it
- 34:49Speaker 1: for the Navy? Yeah, she was a contract specialist for
- 34:52Speaker 1: the Navy. From everyone that. I've talked to all of
- 34:56Speaker 1: her former co workers. They all said she was a
- 34:58Speaker 1: rock star at work, that she did a great job,
- 35:02Speaker 1: and that she really enjoyed it and loved doing it.
- 35:04Speaker 1: She had a lot of responsibility. What I'm trying to
- 35:08Speaker 1: tell you is she didn't just you know, fall off
- 35:11Speaker 1: the turnip truck. She this woman is smart, she is accomplished,
- 35:15Speaker 1: she's beautiful. She's raising these children. And what does it
- 35:19Speaker 1: say to you, is Cheryl mccullumn, I see a defense
- 35:21Speaker 1: attorney would try to have a field day with this,
- 35:24Speaker 1: but women on a jury and maybe some men too,
- 35:27Speaker 1: would get it. If somebody came you know, Cheryl, you've
- 35:31Speaker 1: been in my home. Somebody came in and everything was
- 35:34Speaker 1: a mess, and their dirty dishes in the sink, and
- 35:38Speaker 1: laundries piled up high, and the beds are not made.
- 35:43Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. That tells me right then.
- 35:46Speaker 1: She was dead that day, that minute, no question, Friday
- 35:50Speaker 1: by eight o'clock. And again, what they're going to do
- 35:52Speaker 1: for this case is they're going to go back and
- 35:55Speaker 1: they're gonna show everything that led up to it, the
- 35:58Speaker 1: fact that he tried to hire a hit man for
- 36:00Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars, the fact that he was sending text
- 36:02Speaker 1: messages up to a hundred a day. You left out
- 36:06Speaker 1: the spellcaster. Oh I'm getting there, because that would be
- 36:09Speaker 1: something that hate mine. Yes, I know, good and well.
- 36:14Speaker 1: You would put one of those statements up big as
- 36:17Speaker 1: Dallas for the sure Jerry to stare at. Then not
- 36:19Speaker 1: only did he want her bones broken, wanted them broken
- 36:23Speaker 1: so that she couldn't leave him. And then he's burying
- 36:27Speaker 1: gun cleaning equipment. There's a forty Calahan gun missing, he's
- 36:31Speaker 1: got a fault rifles. And all this happens after he
- 36:35Speaker 1: taught us to the divorce attorney. But I want to
- 36:37Speaker 1: say one thing about that bedroom door. I'm certainly nobody
- 36:40Speaker 1: on this pound is going to be able to stop you,
- 36:41Speaker 1: So go ahead, thank you so much. When they say
- 36:46Speaker 1: she's in the bedroom and then the brother in law
- 36:49Speaker 1: comes back over and Larry the husband opens it with
- 36:53Speaker 1: a key, you're telling me that bedroom door locked from
- 36:58Speaker 1: the hall. Is he keeping her captive? Can I always
- 37:02Speaker 1: count on you to keep it real? Cheryl McCollum. Okay,
- 37:06Speaker 1: Joe Scott put it all together. How are we going
- 37:09Speaker 1: to prove this case? Hey, I gotta tell you, Mary Chris.
- 37:13Speaker 1: First off, my apologies in advance, but Nancy, I gotta
- 37:16Speaker 1: tell you, my friend, when I start hearing words like
- 37:18Speaker 1: bathmat soaked in, bleach, drying out in all of the
- 37:22Speaker 1: cases that I've worked as a death investigator over all
- 37:25Speaker 1: my years, I got to tell you, that means that
- 37:27Speaker 1: something occurred in the bathroom. And that means also that
- 37:33Speaker 1: potentially there's evidence in that tub of a cleanup. Now,
- 37:37Speaker 1: I'm not going to go down the road that you
- 37:39Speaker 1: think I'm going to go down relative to the level
- 37:41Speaker 1: of gore that is involved in this, but there was
- 37:43Speaker 1: an attempt to clean up in that environment. Whilst would
- 37:47Speaker 1: these bath mats be bleached out? I have to say, Nancy,
- 37:51Speaker 1: I think that there is going to be a level
- 37:52Speaker 1: of violence involved in this that we can't imagine. Well,
- 37:56Speaker 1: a great deal of bloodshed, because if you asphyxiated someone,
- 38:00Speaker 1: there would not be that kind of a clean up.
- 38:03Speaker 1: This is a bloody event. And look, Mary, Chris and
- 38:07Speaker 1: Richard want to know the truth. A carpenter uses the
- 38:10Speaker 1: tools they have at their hand. What did this guy have, Nancy,
- 38:13Speaker 1: He had a multitude. He had an armory in the house.
- 38:16Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, he was hooked up on
- 38:17Speaker 1: an illegal weapons charge for tacticle weapon that he had
- 38:21Speaker 1: that could use multiple calibers of bullets. And the FEDS
- 38:25Speaker 1: know something here. Let me tell you why. It wasn't
- 38:28Speaker 1: just the Chula Vista police that showed up to process
- 38:31Speaker 1: this house. You had the FBI e RT team, that
- 38:36Speaker 1: is the Evidence Response unit. They showed up at the
- 38:39Speaker 1: house to process this thing. I actually believe that not
- 38:44Speaker 1: only are we talking about a homicide here and a
- 38:48Speaker 1: missing woman and a missing mother, we're talking about something
- 38:52Speaker 1: that could potentially extend out even further. That the FEDS
- 38:56Speaker 1: would take this much interest in this check. Well, I'm
- 38:59Speaker 1: thinking that he may be selling weapons. That's what I'm thinking.
- 39:03Speaker 1: He had so many weapons, Yes he did, and I
- 39:06Speaker 1: just cannot understand. I don't know what this guy was
- 39:09Speaker 1: at best. How many weapons do we know that he had?
- 39:12Speaker 1: He had about twenty weapons, and as was just alluded to,
- 39:17Speaker 1: he was charged of the legal possession of an assault
- 39:19Speaker 1: rifle and one of those weapons. Notably, he is still
- 39:22Speaker 1: missing a forty caliber gun. I want to follow up
- 39:26Speaker 1: with Paul Best and Joe Scott. Let me know when
- 39:31Speaker 1: you get Cheryl back. Matthew Mangino Bethany Marshall. How can
- 39:36Speaker 1: we track where he hid her remains? Mary Chris Dreuilee
- 39:44Speaker 1: Richard Drew like, what are the cops telling you? How
- 39:48Speaker 1: can we figure out where he hid her remains? This
- 39:52Speaker 1: could be critical at trial? Well, Anthy, I think it
- 39:56Speaker 1: certainly is going to be critical a trial. Is this,
- 39:59Speaker 1: Matthew Richard, It's Matthew. You certainly can. You can certainly
- 40:04Speaker 1: go forward with the circumstantial case. There are convictions where
- 40:09Speaker 1: there's been no body. Yeah, I know you can, but
- 40:12Speaker 1: I don't want to. How can we track I think
- 40:15Speaker 1: it's crucial that you find the body because although we
- 40:19Speaker 1: have circumstantial evidence, we don't have forensic evidence at this point.
- 40:23Speaker 1: We don't have witness evidence at this point. So the
- 40:26Speaker 1: body and the cause of death, in the manner of
- 40:29Speaker 1: death are all going to be extremely important in this prosecution.
- 40:32Speaker 1: And I think it's only going to be done by
- 40:34Speaker 1: a thorough investigation throughout that entire region, with multiple police
- 40:41Speaker 1: forces and federal help to try to locate this body.
- 40:46Speaker 1: This is not gonna be easy. If I could jump in,
- 40:50Speaker 1: if I could jump in about this, I doubt he
- 40:53Speaker 1: drove around Willy Nilly looking for a dumb site for
- 40:56Speaker 1: the body, just because that's not how these things go.
- 40:59Speaker 1: Think about killer down, Chris Watts, think about Todd Mom.
- 41:03Speaker 1: They always go somewhere either near the house, near a relative,
- 41:08Speaker 1: or a place with which they're very familiar. Think about it.
- 41:11Speaker 1: If you have a body or body parts, you're not
- 41:14Speaker 1: going to just dump them in a park or in
- 41:16Speaker 1: the woods or in a garbage can. You're going to
- 41:18Speaker 1: be thinking those eleven hours he drove around thinking with
- 41:22Speaker 1: his then four year old in the car. On add Nancy,
- 41:26Speaker 1: I've got to say about I've got to say the
- 41:28Speaker 1: two big pieces of evidence here in my opinion, relative
- 41:31Speaker 1: to this event. They still have that lexus. No one,
- 41:34Speaker 1: as you well know, does a good enough job cleaning
- 41:37Speaker 1: a car up if he had to clean up in
- 41:39Speaker 1: the house. That means that there is potentially a miss
- 41:41Speaker 1: in that lexus that he missed. They get their hands
- 41:44Speaker 1: on that lexus. And this is the other thing. They
- 41:46Speaker 1: rip that bathtub out of the wall, take the drain
- 41:50Speaker 1: traps out, all of the associated plumbing, and go over
- 41:53Speaker 1: that with a fine tooth comb, because this is essential.
- 41:56Speaker 1: If you found tissue in there, if you found tissue
- 41:59Speaker 1: that is tied to this poor poor woman. I have
- 42:02Speaker 1: to say, Nancy, that might be body enough. I hear you.
- 42:07Speaker 1: I was going to disagree with you until you said
- 42:09Speaker 1: that if they could get enough evidence out of the drain,
- 42:11Speaker 1: which I don't think they can because so many months
- 42:13Speaker 1: have passed, but if they could get that from the
- 42:16Speaker 1: car or the drain, or both of them together to
- 42:19Speaker 1: show that she is in fact dead, he should not
- 42:22Speaker 1: get a gold star for being able to hide the body.
- 42:24Speaker 1: But Mary, Chris Juliet and Richard Juliet, if you think back, guys,
- 42:30Speaker 1: and you look at like the Scott Peterson case, where
- 42:32Speaker 1: did he go to his old fishing hole San Francisco
- 42:35Speaker 1: Bay taught mom? Where did she throw her baby? After
- 42:40Speaker 1: Kelly was murdered right down the street from the home
- 42:43Speaker 1: across from her old school. If you look at k
- 42:46Speaker 1: Chris Watts was just brought up. He went to his
- 42:48Speaker 1: old place of employment and a darko oil feels to
- 42:52Speaker 1: hide the body of his two children and his wife.
- 42:56Speaker 1: This guy, Larry Millette, has hidden her body somewhere he
- 43:03Speaker 1: thought it would never be found, somewhere he's familiar with.
- 43:08Speaker 1: What are cops telling you, guys, Mary, Chris and Richard,
- 43:14Speaker 1: They haven't really told us any a specific area, just
- 43:16Speaker 1: that time frame. You know that they're looking at the
- 43:20Speaker 1: two and a half hours. So what does that mean,
- 43:24Speaker 1: Mary Chris A two and a half hour event? What
- 43:26Speaker 1: does that mean? He stopped for two and a half
- 43:29Speaker 1: hours somewhere. That's what it sounds like. That's what they're
- 43:32Speaker 1: telling us. Oh, well that's where it is. That's where
- 43:35Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, so so in that, um, that's the
- 43:39Speaker 1: area that would have been having. You know, are not
- 43:44Speaker 1: just got feeling, but I mean it's a feeling that
- 43:47Speaker 1: we know she could probably have been. It's the dessert. Um,
- 43:52Speaker 1: it's a two and a half hours, it's the desert.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Did you say it's in the desert? Yeah, it's we
- 43:58Speaker 1: called it the desserts. It's um because it's yeah, it's
- 44:01Speaker 1: at the desert area. And what he did was very cunning.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Richard Juliet, he left his cell phone at home so
- 44:09Speaker 1: he cannot be tracked by pains. He is no idiot.
- 44:14Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing. But now they've got
- 44:17Speaker 1: a two and a half hour event where I'm understanding
- 44:21Speaker 1: from Mary christ Juliet, my sister, that he was stopped
- 44:26Speaker 1: for two and a half hours during this eleven hour
- 44:28Speaker 1: period out in the desert, that's where she is. So
- 44:34Speaker 1: how are they determining that Richard through the navigation system
- 44:38Speaker 1: in the Lexus? Yeah, that's correct. I guess they had
- 44:41Speaker 1: a I guess he must have stopped somewhere and looked
- 44:43Speaker 1: at maybe different routes to get back home, and where
- 44:47Speaker 1: he got pinpoint, It was about two and a half
- 44:49Speaker 1: hours away from his house. So that's where we're going
- 44:52Speaker 1: to be starting our searches. I mean, we've always thought
- 44:55Speaker 1: it could have been the desert, but during the summer,
- 44:59Speaker 1: I mean, the desert is a hot than twenty hundred
- 45:00Speaker 1: and twenty four degrees, you know, by twelve o'clock, so
- 45:03Speaker 1: it's really dangerous to be out there in that heat. Nancy.
- 45:06Speaker 1: There's also a four year old in the car. I know,
- 45:09Speaker 1: I've been wondering if the four year old could point
- 45:12Speaker 1: out where they went. This is what we know in
- 45:18Speaker 1: the last hours. A stunning development in the case. We
- 45:21Speaker 1: all thought nothing would ever happened. But now the husband
- 45:26Speaker 1: of my amilite has been arrested. But what we need
- 45:32Speaker 1: now is her body. If you have any information eight
- 45:39Speaker 1: five eight zero eight four seven seven repeat eight eight
- 45:44Speaker 1: eight five eight zero eight four seven seven. I heard
- 45:49Speaker 1: those cheers go up when the arrest was announced, and
- 45:54Speaker 1: I wanted to cheer, but I know the hard work
- 45:59Speaker 1: is still before us. It's a long row to hoe
- 46:05Speaker 1: before we get justice. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off,
- 46:10Speaker 1: goodbye friend,