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Fauci NIH Connections Indicted · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 2: The Ebola outbreak is taking lives in Africa.
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  Speaker 1: Should we be concerned about it here in America? Is
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  Speaker 1: it another COVID? In some ways, it feels like 2019,
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  Speaker 1: 2020 right now, the way people are talking about Ebola.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Booker, and this is The Truth Be Told. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining us tonight and every night. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into this Ebola here tonight. I'm no medical
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  Speaker 1: expert at all. There are plenty of medical experts out
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  Speaker 1: there talking about this. This Ebola outbreak, and there are
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  Speaker 1: a few Americans that are trapped in Africa. A couple
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  Speaker 1: of them allegedly have this, and it's been a political
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  Speaker 1: hot point. Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, he commented on
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  Speaker 1: it Wednesday and said that they are going to build
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  Speaker 1: a facility or rent a facility there in the Congo
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  Speaker 1: where this is happening, and they are going to take
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  Speaker 1: care of these American people. They're not asking the Africans
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  Speaker 1: to do that because that is where the news was
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  Speaker 1: coming from. The people of the continent of Africa, they
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  Speaker 1: did not want to take care of Americans. Marco Rubio
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  Speaker 1: says you're not going to have to, but let's get
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  Speaker 1: to the story. A deadly Ebola outbreak is continuing to
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  Speaker 1: spread across the Democratic Republic of Congo with global health
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  Speaker 1: officials warning that, quote, we are still behind. As of Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: there were 363 cases of Ebola and 62 deaths have
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  Speaker 1: been confirmed. And that's according to the Congo Ministry of Health.
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  Speaker 1: For what that is worth, in neighboring country of Uganda,
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  Speaker 1: there are 15 cases and one death has been confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: So everything that you're hearing about Ebola has to do
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  Speaker 1: with 380 cases, roughly, 378.
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  Speaker 3: 63 deaths.
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  Speaker 1: Does this feel like COVID to you back in 2019
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  Speaker 1: and 20? Is this a big deal or not? 378
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  Speaker 1: cases in Africa. The latest Congo Ebola situation report shows
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  Speaker 1: the outbreak has now reached another area of that country,
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  Speaker 1: which suggests maybe it is spreading. Do you remember the
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  Speaker 1: head of the WHO? His name is Tedros, Dr. Tedros.
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  Speaker 1: He was big during COVID. And anyway, here's what he said. Quote,
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  Speaker 1: the outbreak had a big head start and we are
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  Speaker 1: still behind, but we're catching up. I think he said
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  Speaker 1: that in COVID as well. And by the way, Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump pulled America out of the WHO. America is no
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  Speaker 1: longer involved in this. The WHO ruled out hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: suspected cases after investigation, although some local health officials suggested
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  Speaker 1: that community transmission may be slowing. Many public health specialists
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  Speaker 1: cautioned that data is very incomplete. And that also sounds
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  Speaker 1: like COVID. Again, Dr. Megan Coffey, an infectious disease physician
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  Speaker 1: and a senior specialist in infectious diseases in health unit
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  Speaker 1: of the Aid Organization International Rescue Committee. These people's title
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  Speaker 1: is longer than their diseases, but her name is Megan Coffey,
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  Speaker 1: a doctor, medical doctor. Quote, to be able to say
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  Speaker 1: what is the case fatality. What is the percentage of
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  Speaker 1: cases that have been identified, and what have been the
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  Speaker 1: percentage of people who are potentially in a chain of
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  Speaker 1: transmission may have been exposed and may develop Ebola, she
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  Speaker 1: told ABC News. On Tuesday, The Who said there were
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  Speaker 1: 116 suspected cases, with hundreds suspected cases ruled out after
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  Speaker 1: an investigation. We're not dealing with much here to have
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  Speaker 1: so much news and headlines about Ebola. And it's really
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  Speaker 1: nothing to worry about in America. But so much of
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  Speaker 1: this rhetoric sounds a whole lot like COVID in 2019
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  Speaker 1: and 2020. I'm here to tell you we shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: worried about it. I'll let the medical professionals here on
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  Speaker 1: the network tell you more about Ebola. I'm not qualified.
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  Speaker 1: A virologist linked to Dr. Anthony Fauci? Well, he is
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  Speaker 1: facing an FBI criminal investigation for allegedly smuggling unsecured samples
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  Speaker 1: of dangerous pathogens into the United States. He did that
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  Speaker 1: earlier in 2026. Earlier this year, Vincent Munster, Ph.D., he
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  Speaker 1: is with the NIH where Anthony Fauci was. He ran that.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Anthony Fauci, statute of limitations has
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  Speaker 1: run out on him, but he is still making about $ 350, 000
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  Speaker 1: a year salary from your taxpayer money. How does that
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  Speaker 1: make you feel? Well, this Vincent Munster doctor, he traveled to, again,
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat Republic of Congo with NHI scientist Claude Kugenda, PhD.
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  Speaker 1: When they were stopped for an airport security check, which
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  Speaker 1: revealed pathogen samples collected from patients, that's how they were caught.
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  Speaker 1: They were caught at the airport bringing in pathogens from
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  Speaker 1: the Congo where Ebola is right now. But guess what
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  Speaker 1: this was? You remember everybody talking about monkeypox and that
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the next COVID? That's what this was.
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  Speaker 1: It was reported that the samples included monkeypox virus classified
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  Speaker 1: by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services as
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  Speaker 1: as a, quote, select agent, unquote, or organism that poses
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  Speaker 1: a severe threat to public safety. So why is NIH
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  Speaker 1: bringing something that could kill Americans into the country? The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Department of Transportation regulates the shipment and transport of pathogens.
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  Speaker 1: Munster and Yenda did not have the legally required paperwork
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  Speaker 1: to transport the pathogens to bring them to the U.S.,
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  Speaker 1: The NIH has placed the two scientists on leave and
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  Speaker 1: they have been removed from the HHS staff directory. The
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  Speaker 1: FBI's investigation into Munster and Yinda comes amid a flurry
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  Speaker 1: of activity involving virologists linked to Fauci and controversial gain-of-function research.
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  Speaker 1: Evidence suggests that researchers may have created SARS-CoV-2 in a
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  Speaker 1: lab and that the virus escaped the lab. No, there
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  Speaker 1: is no question about that. There's no doubt about it
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  Speaker 1: at this point. We know that that disease, COVID, came
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  Speaker 1: from the Wuhan lab. We knew it way back then.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of monkeypox, let's stay here for a minute. Vincent
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  Speaker 1: Munster and Claude Cui, both researchers with the National Institutes
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  Speaker 1: of Health, the NIH again, and they work at the
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  Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain Laboratory, were charged by the DOJ in a complaint,
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  Speaker 1: a criminal complaint, with conspiracy to smuggle monkeypox into the
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  Speaker 1: United States and giving false statements to federal law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: According to the criminal complaint, Vincent Munster, a citizen of
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  Speaker 1: the Netherlands and 53 years old, is the chief of
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  Speaker 1: the virus ecology section, laboratory of biology, at the Rocky
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  Speaker 1: Mountain Laboratory in Hamilton, Montana. Claude Cui, a citizen of Cameroon.
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  Speaker 1: He's 38, and he's a researcher in Munster's section, underneath
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  Speaker 1: his direction. The work of both men is focused on
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  Speaker 1: emerging viral pathogens, sort of like that other story, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: And how those pathogens cross the species barrier. They work
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  Speaker 1: at a biosafety level 4 laboratory, which... employs the highest
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  Speaker 1: level of biosafety precautions for scientific research of known and
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  Speaker 1: potential human pathogens. Why are we still doing this? That
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  Speaker 1: sounds like the Wuhan lab in Wuhan, China, where COVID
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  Speaker 1: was created and where it was leaked from. That's the
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  Speaker 1: type of lab these guys are working at. Why are
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  Speaker 1: we continuing to work with things like monkeypox? It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Munster and Cui were inspected
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  Speaker 1: and interviewed by Customs and Border Protection officials upon their arrival,
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  Speaker 1: and they observed Cui and Munster traveling with a large
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  Speaker 1: black plastic case. Munster and Cui, they falsely told officials
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  Speaker 1: and officers there that the black case contained diagnostics and
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  Speaker 1: testing equipment, but subsequent investigation by the officials and the
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  Speaker 1: FBI agents revealed that that the case actually contained 113
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  Speaker 1: virals in a cooler. As of the date of the complaint,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI has tested 20 of the 113 virals. 17
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  Speaker 1: of them contain deactivated monkeypox virus. Monkeypox. 17 out of
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  Speaker 1: the 20 has monkeypox. One of them contained chickenpox and
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  Speaker 1: two contained human DNA. According to the U.S. attorney, Gorgon,
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  Speaker 1: he says, quote, These NIH experts apparently broke our laws
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  Speaker 1: by smuggling viral pathogens on a packed commercial airplane from
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  Speaker 1: an outbreak in the Republic of Congo. Let that sink in, unquote.
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  Speaker 1: Gorgon went on to say, quote, No researchers should believe
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  Speaker 1: their positions, credentials, or professional status place them above the law.
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  Speaker 1: The allegations in this case are serious. They involve the
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  Speaker 1: dangerous and unlawful smuggling of deactivated monkeypox, unquote. Why are
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  Speaker 1: we still continuing to do this type of thing? I
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  Speaker 1: know you could make the argument, well, we want to
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  Speaker 1: be prepared if this happens, then maybe we can be
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  Speaker 1: ahead of it, like Tedros said about Ebola. then we'll
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  Speaker 1: have a vaccine. Well, I'm not signing up for any
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  Speaker 1: vaccine for any of this by any of these people
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  Speaker 1: at NIH. Just not going to do it. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: enough of that. I've seen what it does. I also
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  Speaker 1: want to bring you this story about the FBI again,
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  Speaker 1: and they've been busy. This time they have arrested and
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  Speaker 1: indicted Jamshid Gomi, a dual U.S.-Iranian citizen living in a
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  Speaker 1: $ 35 million mansion in Orange County, California. He was arrested
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  Speaker 1: on federal charges accusing him of selling computer technology to
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  Speaker 1: the Islamic Republic of Iran, including technology allegedly tied to
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  Speaker 1: the IRGC and their nuclear program. So we have an
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  Speaker 1: American selling things to Iran and the IRGC to create
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. That's what this guy was arrested for. Acting
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  Speaker 1: AG Todd Blanche says, Federal authorities have also begun the
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  Speaker 1: process of seizing Gomi's mansion, which he says was purchased
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  Speaker 1: with illegal proceeds. Selling U.S. technology to the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 1: is a national security threat, Todd Blanch said. Here is
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  Speaker 1: a complete statement from him. The U.S. Iranian citizen who
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  Speaker 1: lives in a $ 35 million mansion in Orange County, California,
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  Speaker 1: was arrested on a federal criminal complaint charging him with
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  Speaker 1: selling computer technology to Iranian companies and Iran's government, including
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  Speaker 1: technology to help with Iran's military and nuclear program. These
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  Speaker 1: allegations assert that the defendant violated U.S. sanctions against Iran,
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  Speaker 1: aided one of our nation's enemies, supported Iran's nuclear program,
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  Speaker 1: and he got rich doing it. Not only is he
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  Speaker 1: being arrested today, but we also are beginning the process
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  Speaker 1: of seizing his mansion, which was purchased with illegal proceeds.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to the work of U.S. Attorney in the office
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  Speaker 1: in California and the IRS for doing that. That's Todd
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  Speaker 1: Blanch's words there and his release on that. Real quick,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to California in the election that
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  Speaker 1: took place on Tuesday. They are still counting and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be counting for a while. I believe on
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  Speaker 1: the program last night I said they were at 60%. Well,
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  Speaker 1: one day has passed, and they have now counted about
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  Speaker 1: 63% of that vote. As I mentioned last night, the
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  Speaker 1: winner in the mayor's race in Los Angeles is going
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  Speaker 1: to be Karen Bass, but she's not going to have 50%,
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  Speaker 1: which means Spencer Pratt, right now in second place, it
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  Speaker 1: looks like he'll secure that. He'll move forward. He'll get
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  Speaker 1: to continue his campaign for four months, and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what happens in Los Angeles. Crazier things have happened, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Hilton in California governor race. He still sits there
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  Speaker 1: in second place. We'll have to watch that one too.
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  Speaker 1: They're still counting. They say it's going to take weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it takes weeks to count in California.
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  Speaker 1: There was a proposition in San Francisco that the voters
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  Speaker 1: actually rejected. And maybe this means something for the conservatives
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  Speaker 1: in California. Even here in San Francisco, very progressive city,
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  Speaker 1: which it always has been, the voters there they turned
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  Speaker 1: down Proposition C and D. Proposition D would have increased
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  Speaker 1: taxes on large companies where executive pay is at least
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  Speaker 1: 100 times that of the average worker. While proponents estimated
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  Speaker 1: the measure would bring in millions of dollars annually, opponents
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  Speaker 1: argued it would discourage businesses from operating in San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: and stall economic recovery. San Francisco has a problem. They
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  Speaker 1: have a problem of about $ 600 million in a deficit
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  Speaker 1: on their budget. The voters in San Francisco said, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want to tax the rich people and the companies
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  Speaker 1: like these other places are doing, like New York, and
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  Speaker 1: have all of their people move out. We don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do that. And so they voted it down. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's a good indicator of what's happening in California. I
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  Speaker 1: think we saw some of that on Tuesday with Republicans
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  Speaker 1: doing decent in a statewide race in Steve Hilton and
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Although Spencer Pratt is not a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: He is running as an independent there in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: He just makes a lot of common sense. And I
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  Speaker 1: think people in California are starting to show that common
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  Speaker 1: sense is a good idea.
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  Speaker 4: We pray for rain and thank him when it's falling
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  Speaker 4: because it brings a grain and.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit of money.
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  Speaker 1: We put it back in the plate. I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: why they call it God's country. More Truth Be Told
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  Speaker 1: with Booker Scott in minutes on America Out Loud. Someone
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  Speaker 1: asked me the other day, how do you even get
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  Speaker 1: a sense of what's going to happen next? It's hard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we can, the way the news
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  Speaker 1: moves so fast. But you know what I told them?
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I said, I've been checking out Poly Market a little bit.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: It's extremely insightful. You're basically watching how thousands of people
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  Speaker 1: are betting on outcomes. Political elections, big policy moves, even
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  Speaker 1: events you wouldn't expect. It's kind of like a live
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  Speaker 1: pulse on what the public actually believes. And you can
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  Speaker 1: see trends before they even happen and before they even
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  Speaker 1: make the mainstream news. For me, it's not about gambling.
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  Speaker 1: It's about understanding the probabilities and where the momentum is shifting.
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  Speaker 1: If you like or love the news like I do,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you're a news junkie, but you want to take
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  Speaker 1: a little deeper look at what people really think, go
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  Speaker 1: to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com. I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Americans right now are hurting financially. Gas prices
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  Speaker 1: are up. They've gone up to $ 4. 50 a gallon since
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  Speaker 1: Epic Fury started in Iran. Some people are getting frustrated
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  Speaker 1: with the Trump administration. They believe he's not looking at
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  Speaker 1: domestic issues enough. I feel the pain. I understand. I
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  Speaker 1: put a post out over the weekend, and here's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of it. I think Americans hold roughly about $ 1. 25
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  Speaker 1: trillion in collective credit card debt. The average household carries
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  Speaker 1: about $ 11, 500 in revolving credit balances, with average interest rates
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  Speaker 1: hovering right around 22%. Right now, delinquency rates are climbing.
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  Speaker 1: They are reaching a 15-year high. And studies indicate that
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  Speaker 1: about 52% to 69% of Americans, depending on how you
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  Speaker 1: grade that, whether you have a one-month savings or a
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  Speaker 1: three-month savings rate, that 52% to 69% of Americans are
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  Speaker 1: living paycheck to paycheck right now. People are getting frustrated
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  Speaker 1: with President Trump and this administration because of it. He
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  Speaker 1: did an interview with Miranda Devine of the New York Post.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's fantastic. And she was asking him about
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  Speaker 1: doing what he has done with Epic Fury in Iran
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  Speaker 1: right now coming into the midterms. How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about that? What do you think? Was this the right move?
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  Speaker 1: Those are her questions. Here was Donald Trump's response.
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  Speaker 6: I just hit the highest stock market price in history.
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  Speaker 6: Had very little inflation. And I said, gentlemen and ladies,
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  Speaker 6: we're going to now have to make an excursion because
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  Speaker 6: we can't let them have a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what we've done. After the midterm?
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  Speaker 6: I could have, but no, because this is too important.
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  Speaker 6: If I did that, they would have had.
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  Speaker 5: A nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: And we really don't know that. You have to trust
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  Speaker 1: the intelligence of the United States, wherever they get that from.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that Iran was going to have a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon in two weeks or not. We've been told
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  Speaker 1: that quite a bit through the years. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's his job to make that determination. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to do that. But let's stay here on what he
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  Speaker 1: said right at the beginning. I want to play this
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  Speaker 1: for you again, because in a lot of ways, this
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  Speaker 1: bothers me when politicians, regardless of what side of the
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  Speaker 1: aisle you're on, Democrats and Republicans use the stock market.
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  Speaker 1: They use it as a litmus test for how well
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  Speaker 1: things are going. Well, things are going really well if
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  Speaker 1: you're a corporation right now, but not for 52 to
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  Speaker 1: 69% of Americans that are living paycheck to paycheck. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to what he said about the stock market.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I just hit the highest stock market price in history.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost a slap in the face to the American people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not that many people have 401ks in reality.
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  Speaker 1: About 70 million Americans do. There are 350 million Americans here.
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  Speaker 1: So the majority of people don't have a 401k. And
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  Speaker 1: regardless of whether you have a 401k or not, it
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  Speaker 1: really doesn't matter unless you're cashing out your stock the
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  Speaker 1: day that it was at its record high. If you're
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  Speaker 1: not selling, it doesn't matter what it's worth today unless
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  Speaker 1: you're selling today. And that's the reality of stocks. It
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  Speaker 1: always has been. But I think it's a slap in
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  Speaker 1: the face, whether it's a Democrat or Republican or Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden would do the same thing. He did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: When he hit a record, he bragged about hitting a record.
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  Speaker 1: It's what politicians do, and that's the thing. Is Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump still the outsider from New York coming down an escalator,
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  Speaker 1: or has he become a politician here in his second term?
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are frustrated, you're upset
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  Speaker 1: that we are even in Iran to begin with. I
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  Speaker 1: still think it's the right thing to do. They've been
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  Speaker 1: terrorizing the world for 47 years. It had to be stopped.
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  Speaker 1: They chant death to America. It's not just a slogan.
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  Speaker 1: It's what they feel. It's what they mean. They are radical.
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  Speaker 1: But let me keep going here with Miranda Devine and
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump here.
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  Speaker 5: I've been two weeks after the B-2 bombers struck.
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  Speaker 6: So if I did that, they would have had a new,
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  Speaker 6: it would be wonderful to say, oh, let's wait till
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  Speaker 6: after November.
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  Speaker 5: But no, this is, This is too important.
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  Speaker 6: Has it set you back, you think, in terms of
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  Speaker 6: how Republicans will do in the midterms?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I mean, everybody I endorse wins.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to stop it right there. He's right. He
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  Speaker 1: has an incredible record. Everyone he endorses has been winning
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  Speaker 1: their races. And that's true. But if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the GOP turnout, it's extremely low. Donald Trump is still
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  Speaker 1: the main mover of the Republican Party right now. There's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. He is the Republican Party, and
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  Speaker 1: he can make enough people get off their couch and
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  Speaker 1: go vote when the GOP turnout is so low to
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  Speaker 1: make a difference in primaries. The problem is when you
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: look at the vote totals in recent elections. the Republicans
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just aren't turning out enough. And if they're not turning
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: out enough now, are they going to turn out enough
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in November? And then you add other things onto it,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like $ 4. 50 gas and the Iran war that's going on.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: What will be the sentiment of the people that are
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: struggling at the kitchen table coming into November? Will the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Republicans be energized to go vote? I think in some ways,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: maybe Donald Trump is missing that. Maybe he can't relate
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to the people who at the kitchen table that are
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: sitting there trying to live paycheck to paycheck. It isn't easy.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: If you're worried about the stock market, these people don't
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: have a stock. They don't own a stock. They don't
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have a 401k. They don't care about that. Hitting a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: record every day on the stock market does nothing for them. $ 2. 75
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: gas does a lot for them. And it also brings
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: down prices of everything else because the prices of everything
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: else right now happen to be going up a little bit.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And that hurts people at the kitchen table. So when
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you look at things in the midterm, stock market really
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It just doesn't. To me, it's a slap
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: in the face of those people living paycheck to paycheck. Again,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: we have record credit card debt right now. We have
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: delinquencies going up to the highest level in 15 years
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: right now. That should be the focus. That should be
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the concern. And I'm hearing that from people. I'm hearing
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that from you. that you are becoming frustrated with this.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: There are other things to consider, too, as we go
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: into this midterm election, the general election that will be
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: coming up in November. Will the Republicans pass a budget
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: before we get there? Will there be another government shutdown?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And I want to throw something else into the mix here.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I have been talking about this for a that the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Republicans should pass, and you really don't hear much about
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: them even talking about it. They need to pass all
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: 12 appropriations before September 30th for the 2027 budget that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: begins October 1st, because the election comes the first week
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of November. The Democrats are not going to help them
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: with a continuing resolution. They are going to allow the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: government to be shut down. The other thing I want
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to throw in here to this mix to consider is
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Will the Republicans even be able to pass a reconciliation
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: which only takes 51 votes? The reason why I say
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that is the recent losses of Bill Cassidy, the senator
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: from Louisiana, in the primary, not endorsed by Trump. John
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Cornyn in Texas, another one not endorsed by Trump. If,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and I would assume that they will, and you can
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: count Tom Tillis also, who is retiring in North Carolina
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: as the senator. You put those three together, and you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: put them with Susan Collins, who is in a very
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: interesting race in Maine right now. She's going to be
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: very careful how she votes on things. So that's four
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: senators you put in there. You have 53. That knocks
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you down to 49. You can throw in Rand Paul.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: You can throw in Lisa Murkowski. That's six. You go
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: from 53 to 47 senators. How will you be able
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to pass that reconciliation before September 30th If you have
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: four to six Republican senators jumping off, you can't. Which
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: means a government shutdown will be coming. And it's going
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to be devastating to the midterm. Not only this Iran thing,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: but that as well. And those are some things to consider.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that Donald Trump is.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Every single person I address wins, so I don't know
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: about that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And I would point out to the President of the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: United States, with the very low voter turnout in these primaries...
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: He can do that every time. He can move enough
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: people to make a difference, to get them off their
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: couch to go vote. But that's not really going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: matter in the general election if you look at the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: raw vote total in each one of these primary elections.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I've done this before, but let's talk about it again.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to Georgia on May 19th. It's an
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: open primary. You had 52% of that vote that day
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: selecting a Democrat ballot. You can choose either one. 48%
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: for Republicans in a record turnout for a primary, for
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a midterm. It was record. More people voted in that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: primary in Georgia than had ever voted in the history
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of primaries in a midterm in Georgia. And 52% of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: them voted for a Democrat. When it comes time for
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the general election, it's going to be important. That is important. Pennsylvania,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: same thing. Open primary, same as Georgia. You have an
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: incumbent governor in Josh Shapiro running for re-election. He got 1.1
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: million raw votes. Stacey Garrity, she is running unopposed as well,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: just like Shapiro. She is a Republican. She got about 600,000 votes.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: She lost by 500,000 raw votes on a day that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: every one of Trump's endorsed candidates won, as you just
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: heard him say. Marco Rubio was in the hot seat again.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: This time he was having fun in the House of Representatives.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And boy, were these questions something else. I played some
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of them last night on the program when he was
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in the Senate. Then the next day he has to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: go to the House and he has to listen to this.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: We have not seen the president in eight days. The
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: American people deserve the truth. I yield back. This is
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Representative Ted Lieu, who is always going after Donald Trump.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't make any sense. He lies every day. And
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: here he is saying, we haven't seen Donald Trump in
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: eight days. And the thing about him saying it is,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: if you paid any attention to social media on Wednesday,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you see that people like Hunter Biden and many other Democrats,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they pick up on this. And they are saying the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: same thing. We haven't seen Donald Trump in eight days.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Let's listen to Marco Rubio's answer.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how to respond to that other
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: than to tell you that it's absurd and ridiculous. And
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we're in a Foreign Affairs Committee meeting
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: in front of the House at an important time in
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: American foreign policy.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Just keep lying, Secretary Rubio. Just keep lying.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Supposedly someone who thinks he's a medical expert when he's not.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is we had a cognitively
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: impaired president in office a few years ago. That's a
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: cognitively impaired president, but I don't like to talk about
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that because it weakens America. This president we have, this
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: is a guy that literally doesn't sleep. He works day
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and night, long hours, every single day. I don't know
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: if you haven't seen him in eight days. I saw
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: him yesterday. I didn't see him today, but yesterday because
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I was in Congress the day before. I talked to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: him at all hours of the day and night. He
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: works inhumane hours. I've been on foreign trips with the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: president that he doesn't sleep in the whole flight. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: everyone else is sleeping on the plane. And he's, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: wandering the hallways looking for someone to wake up and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: talk to that people are. So I don't know what
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: you're referring to, but he has an incredible amount of energy.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, you may not like his policies.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: You may not like his policies. You may not like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the decisions he's made. But I assure you, this is
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: not a president that sleeps or is cognitively impaired in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. And in fact, this is
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: incredibly active, much more so in many cases than much
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: younger people that are around him.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Those are facts. I see it every day.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: You're not going to agree because you have another narrative
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that you want to push.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But those are the facts. Ted Lieu always has another
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: narrative that he wants to push. He lies constantly. He's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: one that continues to say that Donald Trump is in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files for raping a 13-year-old girl. That is
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: not a corroborated story. It's in the files. I'll say
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: this again. If someone makes an allegation to the police
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: or the FBI, it is up to them to do
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the investigation on that. When they did an investigation on
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: anything to do with Epstein, all of that information went
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: into the files. It doesn't make someone guilty. In fact,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of times they are completely innocent. And the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: FBI came to that conclusion on that. But that doesn't
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: stop Ted Lieu from going out in front of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: press almost daily mentioning that Donald Trump molested a 13-year-old.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: That's who these people are in the House of Representatives
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: on the Democrat side. And, you know, sometimes the Republicans
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: aren't any better. Let's be honest about that. Let's go
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to more of this hearing here with Marco Rubio, because
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to me, this is fascinating.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Mr.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Secretary, it seems like you have an issue admitting facts.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: You can't say that the president lost the 2020 election,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: just like you won't admit President Trump is losing this
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: reckless war of choice. And just like you couldn't admit
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: that the shoes the president bought you were too big.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: This is Representative Jacobs, a Democrat.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: You clearly don't.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Know what winning means. And not because the facts are
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: unclear to you. It's because telling your truth. truth would
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: cost you your job. And the American people are entitled
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: to a secretary of state who tells them the truth
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: even when the president doesn't want to hear it. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: my constituents, our service members deserve better.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Mr.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Chairman, I yield back.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: She is reading from a script there. I don't know
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: who wrote it. Typically, staffers are the ones that write
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: all the questions for these representatives to ask. They probably
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: saw this question the first time when they read it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But maybe there's a bigger script written
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: by someone else for the Democrats. Here's Marco Rubio's response
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know what she's talking about. What is she
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: talking about? Representative Burchett, you're right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: If you'd like to answer any of that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know about the shoes. I mean, he gave
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: me some Florsheim shoes. They're actually pretty good. They fit fine.
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's talking about.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's what she's referring to.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Your shoes look very nice today, Mr.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: Secretary.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: How can you see them?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: They're way down here.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: His feet are under the table. Are you guys kidding me?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, is this the Foreign Affairs Committee or is
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: this like a circus? What is this?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And it is like a circus. Almost every congressional hearing
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: is like a circus. And at one point, Marco Rubio
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: got into a heated exchange. He really was never heated,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: but the congresswoman was, and this was the end result
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of that. She talked for five minutes, never really asked
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a question of Marco Rubio. But she had had enough,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and she stormed out of this hearing. Unfortunately, Representative Stimes
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: expired Representative Salazar's recommendation.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: And giving contracts with no transparency is exactly the reason
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: why you shut down USAID. So practice what you preach.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, she gets to scream now, too?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Chairman, can we take down her words?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: I'll give you some time. I'll give you some of
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: my time. Then you just.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: She's leaving. You can hear her screaming in the background.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: You get asked questions for five minutes and you don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: get time to answer.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: It's not a hearing. I think you said clown show before.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: It's like a dunk tank.
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: What is this?
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: I don't have to tell you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: She's still yelling. How can I answer the question? Don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: even give me time.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I've had to use their time to answer your questions.
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: All right, whatever.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: All right, so I don't need to tell you that
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: in my community, the city that I represent, the city
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: of Miami, you're one of the most illustrious people. representatives,
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: and that we're very proud of you, not only the Cuban-Americans.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But the Hispanic-Americans. That is Representative Salazar there from Miami,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and she followed up that, but let's go to a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: little bit more Marco Rubio in response to what you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: just heard there from the Democrat congresswoman that left. Why
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: is she leaving?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to answer her questions.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's gone.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, I got it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: All right, so we're going to talk about.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: So that's sort of how the hearing went with Marco Rubio.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Worse than the day before when he was with the Senate.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary, he was in the Senate.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And let's go to an exchange there because this was
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a drop the mic moment for Scott Besant. He's talking
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to Senator Wyden.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Senator Wyden has mendaciously slandered the Treasury building in an
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: attempt to cover up his son's having an investment meeting
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein to ask for funding.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Now they don't know what to do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: The chairman's talking to Wyden. Let's be clear here. Here
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: Nobody is interested in the ramblings of a capo in
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: the most corrupt regime in American history.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: We want to get some facts about this deal. That's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: what we're here for. That is Senator Wyden. Now here
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: comes the mic drop moment.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and I will ask my questions first today.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: And we would like to hear what Adam Wyden and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein talked about. Your son's largest investment position was
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Rick's Cabaret.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Which is a gentleman's club, a strip club. His son,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Senator Wyden's son, largest investment was in Rick's Cabaret. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: he is there with Epstein begging for money, Senator Wyden's son.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: So did your son and Jeffrey Epstein talk about pole
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: dancing as he begged him for money using your limited credibility?
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I'm going to proceed with my questions. And Mr.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Secretary, I'm going to start with regard to the issues
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that Senator Wyden raised. That is a little indication there
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of what happened in the Senate. One more I want
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to go to, and that is DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the former senator from Oklahoma, an exchange he had with
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Al Green, who is now no longer going to be
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a representative. He lost his primary last Tuesday in Texas.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: They gerrymandered him right out of a seat. Here's Al Green.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You remember him. He's the guy with the cane in
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the State of the Union address, and he's also the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: one that has impeached Donald Trump a record amount of time.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Listen to this exchange.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Mr.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Secretary, we'll do what happened to Ruby.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Are you calling me a racist? A racist.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: I'm asking a question. Reclaiming my time. Ask him to
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: shut up.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty. Shut up. Shut up.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: It's my time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It's my time. I think Al Green is a little
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: upset that he is no longer going to be a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: member of the House of Representatives. That's a part of
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the problem here with a lot of these people that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: are going out of office. And there is a record
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: number of them. And I question what exactly is going
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to get done between now and January, when a new House,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the 120th Congress, comes into power.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I wish everybody would shut up in these hearings. We
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: have more of the program coming.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Stay with us here on The Truth Be Told.
• 35:34
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• 35:35
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• 35:37
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• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Everywhere we look, it seems like America has all sorts
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of problems. And one of the problems I think maybe
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that people don't want to talk about, they want to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: bury their head in the sand, is human trafficking. You
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: bring up the words together and people just gloss over
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: with a look. And unfortunately in this country, whether you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: call it human trafficking or the sex business, it's, I've
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: seen $ 35 billion. I've seen it's as much as a
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: hundred billion dollar a year industry. I'm not sure, but
• 37:04
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• 37:08
  Speaker 1: needs to have some attention. And that's what we're going
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to try to do here in this segment. As we
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: welcome to the program, Sarah LaChance, she has an organization
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: called out of Tampa Bay, Florida, and it's called StopTheMovement.org. Sarah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: welcome to the program.
• 37:22
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• 37:24
  Speaker 7: you shining a light on this issue.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: And you and I, you know, we were able to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: go take a tour a few weeks ago, and right
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: here in the Tampa Bay market, which, by the way,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is a television market. It's about 4 million people. But
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: it is an incredible, incredible problem we have. And I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thought I knew something a little bit about this subject.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But what I found out was I really know nothing
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: about it because the things that we saw were amazing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And I want to get into that. But I also
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, you start StopTheMovement.org. What was your motivation?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: What was that event that happened in your life that said,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do something?
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: That's a great question. This has been a calling on
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: my family's life for many years. I worked at the
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: LA Dream Center in downtown Los Angeles about 10 years ago.
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: I spent some time there on the human trafficking unit
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: and I was in the exact same spot as you were.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: I was shocked to discover what I thought I knew
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: about the issue and I was completely wrong. And I
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: was shocked to find out that human trafficking affects men, women,
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: and kids of all ages. And I have unfortunately worked
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: with a variety of them over the years. When I
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: moved back to Florida, I was passionate about finding a
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: place to serve and did research for about a year
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: trying to figure out where I could get plugged in
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: and really felt called to start my own organization. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: our focus for the past couple of years has been
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: prevention and awareness. Our mantra is, you know, an ounce
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: of prevention is worth a pound of cure. and we
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: have recently, as you discovered, branched out to outreach, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: we've got even bigger dreams beyond that because, like you said,
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: it is such a big problem.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't aware of how big a problem it is,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and what we found was on that tour, we went
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to neighborhoods that were less fortunate. We went we went
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to a neighborhood that had three to $ 5 million houses
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and there were a couple of trap houses there. And
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to be honest, I, I didn't know what a trap
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: house was. Can you explain to people what a trap
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: house is?
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: That's not in everybody's vernacular. A trap house is essentially
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: a house where illegal activity is taking place. So generally
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: the homes that we toured and saw there are, women, children,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: and drugs being sold in and out of them. You
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: could probably include weapons in a lot of those as well.
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: So there's just illegal activity happening in these places. And
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: like you said, it could be your next door neighbor.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: It's not necessarily all low income housing. It spans every
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: city across every state in our nation.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And as we toured, we went to a lot of
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: less fortunate areas. And I think that's where most people
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: believe it's all taking place. And it does take place there.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And the life that these people get trapped into is terrible.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: And I want to talk about that. But again, it
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: really struck me that here we are with three to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: five million dollar houses, the neighborhood right next to that,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: really nice homes alone. It had trap houses where they
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: were selling people out of and selling drugs and guns
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and and it was shocking, and it left an impression
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: on me, really for a week. I couldn't stop thinking
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: about it, and here we are now, weeks later, and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about it. Because these are people's kids
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that start out there. We learned about grooming. We went
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: by one specific house where this guy puts out ads
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: on Craigslist to teach kids, boys specifically, because I think
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: boys are left out of of this. We always think
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of little girls and we think of women. But this
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: specific case was a guy that was putting ads on
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Craigslist to teach them how to be a DJ or
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: voice lessons. So the parents drop these boys off, spend $ 60,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: give the guy $ 60 to do the voice lessons, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: then he starts the grooming process. That's legitimate, isn't it, Sarah?
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: Yes. And I'm so glad that you brought that up.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: I think it's really important that we talk about what
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: grooming is. I was just having a conversation yesterday with
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: a woman who said, I don't even know that term.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: And so the simple way to explain grooming is when
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: a bad adult is taking their time to earn the
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: trust of either another adult or a child for the
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: purpose of exploiting them. So they are maybe befriending them.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: It could be a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. They are taking the
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: time to learn where their weaknesses are, and then they
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: will make it seem like they're filling those needs, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: then they will flip the script and start to exploit
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: those needs. And at that point, the mental abuse has
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: already begun, the psychological abuse, a lot of times physical
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: and sexual abuse have also occurred. And at that point,
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: escape is almost impossible.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they go down that path and that path
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: becomes that, that voice teacher becomes the pimp and starts
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and starts selling these young boys in this case, publicly online,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: maybe on Craigslist or some other place. I also learned
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: another term that I'd never heard. And that was a
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: rub map. And for those of you listening, I'm going
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to try. Well, actually, Sarah, you try because you know
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: more about it than I do.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: I think we're all learning together, but basically a list
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: of what we call the IMPs, the illicit massage parlors
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: in the area. Now, are there places giving legitimate massages?
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: Of course there are. There are places that are keeping
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: women employed there against their will. They have taken their identifications. Generally,
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: they are from other countries, and they are not allowed
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: to leave, and they're being forced to perform sex acts
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: much beyond the scope of what an actual massage is.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: And one way that you could keep an eye out
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: if you're in the community is if you see a
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: massage parlor that's open until midnight. This is a red flag.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: I love a massage, but I have never needed a
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: massage at midnight. And if you see all the windows
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: are blacked out, those are a pretty good sign that
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: something illegal is happening behind those doors.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And a rub map, just to go back to that,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: is an application that you can download on your phone
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: or it's a website. And what it does is it
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: shows those massage parlors all over the country. You can
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: click on your state, then click on your zip code,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and it will show those massage parlors that are doing
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: more than giving massages. And something else I learned was
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that if it was a pink pony, that meant that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: there were little girls at that massage parlor. So this
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is reality, isn't it, Sarah?
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: This is not an ethereal concept. Primarily, we focus on
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: what's happening stateside. So this is not something that when
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: we're talking about it's not happening in the Philippines, it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: not happening in India. This is happening here in the
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: United States where everybody is supposed to be free. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: we have, it's not a conceptual idea. It's also, I think,
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: very important to say this is not a political issue.
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: This is a human rights issue that's really affecting all
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: of our cities. And like you found out just a
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: few weeks ago, it is right under our noses. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: if we don't know what to look for, then we
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: don't know how to help.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I found out that one of these people that
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: is involved in this lives less than a mile from me,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: one of those houses.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So it was a shocking tour. It really was. And
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: when you get back to the trapped part of this lifestyle,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: we were talking about the guy on Craigslist giving the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: voice lessons. They get them into drugs and then these
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: people get addicted to drugs. So then they become dependent
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on the groomer or then becomes the pimp. And they
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: can't get out of the lifestyle, can they? Because I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: heard stories of Even the cell phones that they possess
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: are not owned by them. So the only way to
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: get outside of their world is to give up their
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: cell phone. And you guys actually try to outreach to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: take people out of these positions. That's not easy, though,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: No, not at all. And you hit the nail on
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: the head. It is not only a drug dependence. It
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: is generally they've racked up a criminal record. Mostly due
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: to no fault of their own. If a pimp is
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: controlling what they do, maybe petty theft charges or drug charges. Additionally,
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: there is a huge psychological abuse that's taking place. Let's
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: just use a girl, for example, that's being trafficked. Her
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: family has been threatened. So she's not just at risk.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: If she leaves and they catch her, they might beat
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: her beyond recognition and then drag her back. But her
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: sister has been threatened. Her little brother has been threatened
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: that they're going to be drug into this if she
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: leaves and that her mom and dad are going to
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: be killed and that. The pictures that she's, you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: taken are going to be shared all over school or
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: maybe all over her church that, you know, she's going
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: to be publicly humiliated. And there is no way out.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: You are completely isolated. And so when people say, well,
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: why don't they just leave? Believe me, if they could,
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: they would. Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: And it really is trapped. And as I heard, trap houses,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know, that's what I thought. I thought, well, these
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: people are trapped in a lifestyle. We went by one
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: particular road that had, I think it was two, it
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: was at least two, maybe three houses in a row.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And they said that they move girls from one house
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: to the other house and to the other house. And
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: after the tour, I actually went and looked up those
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: houses online at Google Maps. And you could literally see
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: two guys standing out front of those houses keeping guard.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Something else I learned on that tour was that these
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: homes and these trap houses were they are surveilling you,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: that they have video cameras up in the trees, they
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: have video cameras all over it. So the process of
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: trying to go and rescue these women, men, boys, girls,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is difficult because you're putting yourself in danger.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's almost impossible. And that's absolutely accurate. I had
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: a personal situation where we went to a massage parlor
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: one time. And before we got out of the car,
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: they met us at the door. We didn't even see,
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: to this day, I don't know where the cameras were.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: They saw us as we pulled into the parking lot.
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: They knew that we clearly were not customers, met us
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: at the door, and refused us to come in. As
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: you said at the beginning, this is a multi-billion dollar industry.
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: These people are smart. These are business people. They know
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: what they're doing. They're not trying to get caught, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: they're trying to make money. They care about money over
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: everything else. They're protecting their product, which is people.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's real. And that's what I want people to understand
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: is it's real because I think sometimes the human trafficking
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: words together and people just, it just flies right over
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: their head. How do you describe human trafficking?
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: So I describe it as exploitation for profit. So when
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: we talk about words like sexual abuse, molestation, rape, that
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: is an exploitation. That is, um, an abuse. That's a
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: stealing of someone's innocence. When we talk about human trafficking,
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: it is that exploitation over and over and over again
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: that someone is choosing to pay for and someone else
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: is benefiting from. And when we talk about, it is
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: a hard concept to grasp. Two things I want to say.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: When we say it's a $ 30 billion industry, what does
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: that mean to people? That's such a hard number to grasp.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: Let me put it in a bite-sized nugget for you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: The average sex act is about $ 30.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: How many sex acts add up to $ 30 billion or
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: $ 150 billion or whatever the actual number is, it's staggering.
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: That's what we need to know. And when people say,
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: This is happening in developing countries. It's not happening here.
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: Let me introduce you to the two little girls that
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: are sisters that were being trafficked by a family member.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: And they went to school every single day. And at night,
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: they were being trafficked out of their own house. Let
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: me introduce you to the girl that I work very
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: closely with who was abused by a family member 20
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: years ago. Then pictures were taken and those are still
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: circulating on the internet today. So there is no justice
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: there while this man walks around free. And let me
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: introduce you to the girl who has a child who
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: needed to be rescued from the situation and left other
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: children behind there. This happens every single day. I could
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: go on and tell you for hours, unfortunately, stories of
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: real people that it's happening to here. And it's not,
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: and none of us are, are immune to this happening.
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: So that doesn't mean that we should lock our kids
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: up and never let them go outside and never let
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: them use the internet, but we have to be aware
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: of it.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And it's so pervasive. That's what I learned in that tour.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It was just everywhere from the massage parlors to the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: homes to the street corners. And these people get trapped
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: in the lifestyle and there's no way to get out
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of it. And it can ruin their lives. But there
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: are people like you, this is Sarah LaChance, Her organization
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: is StopTheMovement.org. And what else can we do other than
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: getting the word out to let people know that this
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: is a real thing and it really affects people's lives?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: What else can be done?
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, again, I so appreciate you taking
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: the time to shed some light on this issue. It's
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: scary and it's dark and people don't want to talk
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: about it, but that doesn't help anyone. And so when
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: we do our free trainings, let me give you some
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: very basic 101 tangible things that don't have anything to
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: do with trafficking. We're talking about take a couple steps back.
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: Things that we can do as parents, as community members,
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: if you're involved in a church or a school, look
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: for red flags. Look for kids that are acting out
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: of the ordinary. Look for signs of physical abuse or malnutrition.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Kids that are acting out sexually that does not match
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: their age. Maybe they have vocabulary that doesn't match their
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: age or they're being picked up by people that are
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: not their family members. If they come to you and
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: they try to tell you that something's wrong, dig deeper.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: It is uncomfortable, but those are things we need to do. Also,
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: and I can't stress this enough, we need to talk
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: about consent at a young age. We need to talk
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: about bodily autonomy and not forcing kids to hug or
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: kiss family members if they are uncomfortable with it. Because
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: that will raise children that don't feel like they can
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: say no when they get older. We also need to
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: name proper body parts so that if something does happen,
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: God forbid, a child can come to an adult confidently
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: saying this is what happened. Because if they don't have
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: the verbiage, they won't know how to express what happened.
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: Those are a couple of things. Also, and very most importantly,
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: you touched on this a little bit. This statistic makes
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: me sick. 90%. of human trafficking is familial. What does
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: that mean? That is a family member or a trusted
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: adult that the victim was comfortable with and not just
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: the victim, but generally the family was comfortable with. And
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: you mentioned the voice lesson teacher or clergy or the
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: baseball coach or your ballet instructor. As parents, it's imperative
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: that we do not just blindly trust people because they're
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: in positions of power and authority. I can't stress that enough.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Everyone, go to the website. It's stopthemovement.org. There's a place
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: to donate there. If you want to help out, you
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: can do that. But at least learn more about this. Sarah,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us.
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: Thank you so much for your time.
• 54:03
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• 54:07
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