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Episode 74 The 2025 Rumble Review · Podcast Championship Wrestling

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: This great state, this legendary stadium, this undeniably incredible, incomparable
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis City, this town.
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  Speaker 2: Has more heart and more grit and more.
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  Speaker 1: Determination than just about anywhere else on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know what you're thinking about, Oh, Pat McAfee,
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  Speaker 3: he's an indie guy. Yeah, super rich. I'm sure he'd
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: nail a hot, cold open video program. Hubbly, bubbly, how
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  Speaker 3: you doing, cap A, Well, you know what you're damn right.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: And in case you've been living in a space station
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  Speaker 3: for the last.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty seven years and are.
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  Speaker 5: Somehow unaware of WWE's royal Rumble event, allow me to
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  Speaker 5: educate you real quick. Thirty men, thirty women are gonna
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  Speaker 5: come barreling down this glorious entrance.
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  Speaker 6: Ramp into the ring, and spoiler alert, they aren't looking
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  Speaker 6: to hug it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's full send until there is only one left standing.
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  Speaker 3: All the passion, all the talking, all the history, everything
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  Speaker 3: on the line, nothing that fires me up more than
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  Speaker 3: rystling in a great state of Indeed.
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  Speaker 6: Let me hear you, Indy, Let the world.
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  Speaker 1: Hear you, Indy, and we'll clue everybody to the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five loyalle.
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  Speaker 6: Let's call.
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  Speaker 2: The Royal Rumble. It's a stage that defines a moment
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  Speaker 2: in time.
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  Speaker 7: Ray this stereo, Dad, thank you, let's cover to WrestleMania.
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  Speaker 4: It's not worry.
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  Speaker 8: The Road to WrestleMania begins with thirty men and thirty
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  Speaker 8: women buying for the chance of a lifetime a world
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  Speaker 8: championship match in the main event of WrestleMania. We've witnessed
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  Speaker 8: one thousand, three hundred and seventy superstars compete in this event,
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  Speaker 8: but only thirty six, a staggering two point six percent
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  Speaker 8: of participants, have actually won the match. Of the thirty
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  Speaker 8: five winners, twenty two have gone on to win a
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  Speaker 8: world championship at WrestleMania, including Bailey. In twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 8: after entering at number three, Bailey reached a new career
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  Speaker 8: high the Royal Rumble. Bailey lasted a record one hour,
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  Speaker 8: three minutes and one second. The only other woman to
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  Speaker 8: win from the number three.
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  Speaker 2: Spot is Bianca bel Air.
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  Speaker 8: The est now holds the women's record for cumulative time
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  Speaker 8: in the Royal Rumble at an astounding three hours, five
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  Speaker 8: minutes and thirty two seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Even more history was made last year.
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  Speaker 8: In thirty seven years, there had only been three previous
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  Speaker 8: back to back Royal Rumble winners, a rare feat only
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  Speaker 8: achieved by WWE Hall of famers Paul Cogan, Sean Michaels.
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  Speaker 2: And Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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  Speaker 8: Last year, the American Nightmare Rhodes became before.
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  Speaker 2: Cody Rhodes would furnish goal Start and.
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  Speaker 8: Win the undisputed WWE Championship, making the success rate from
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  Speaker 8: Royal Rumble winner to Championship gold increase.
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  Speaker 2: To sixty one percent.
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  Speaker 8: This year, the Royal Rumble will emanate from Lucas Oil
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  Speaker 8: Stadium in Indianapolis for the first time ever, the Zamefield
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  Speaker 8: where rock commentator Pat McAfee plaid for the NFL's Indianapolis Colts.
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  Speaker 8: Five commentators have hopped up from the booth and into
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  Speaker 8: Rumble action match have decided to punts on his opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Similar to and Drew Carry came face.
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  Speaker 8: To face with Cain, No one brings the heat like
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  Speaker 8: the Big Red Machine. Caine's Wake of Destruction includes a
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  Speaker 8: record forty five eliminations in eighteen Royal Rumble matches, the
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  Speaker 8: most in WWE history. On the women's side, the record
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  Speaker 8: for most eliminations is twenty, tied between the Women's World
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  Speaker 8: Champion Rho Ripley and the Irresistible Force Naya Jacks. Over
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  Speaker 8: a third of the field was needed to eliminate Naya
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  Speaker 8: Jacks from the twenty twenty three Rumble.
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  Speaker 2: This year, she'll face tough competition from.
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  Speaker 8: Charlotte Flair, who returns after over a year away, looking
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  Speaker 8: to become the first woman to.
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  Speaker 2: Win two Royal Rubble matches.
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  Speaker 8: Superstars always fight to make their mark and create memorable moments,
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  Speaker 8: but some competitors might have a blink and you miss
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  Speaker 8: it moment. Some superstars are ready to get in the
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  Speaker 8: action at a moment's notice, and you never know who's
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  Speaker 8: going to show up when their number is called, Where's
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  Speaker 8: the Rubble? We've witnessed many mind blowing returns, and this
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  Speaker 8: year will be no different.
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  Speaker 2: When the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 8: John Cena, just two thousand, five hundred and sixty one
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  Speaker 8: days removed.
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  Speaker 2: From his last Royal Rumble, We'll join the Fray.
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  Speaker 9: After winning in two thousand and eight and two thousand
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  Speaker 9: and thirteen, John Cena could join Stone Colds in becoming
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  Speaker 9: the second superstar ever to win three Royal Rumbles on.
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  Speaker 8: His way to possibly winning his record breaking seventeenth World Championships.
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  Speaker 8: Another superstar looking to make a statement is CM Punk,
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  Speaker 8: with this being his eighth Royal Rumble appear and after
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  Speaker 8: coming heartbreakingly close to victory in the Royal Rumble, the
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  Speaker 8: Second City Saint is looking to win it all this
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  Speaker 8: year and finally achieve his dream of main eventing his
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  Speaker 8: first WrestleMania.
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  Speaker 6: One through thirty just numbers World Rumble.
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  Speaker 7: You're next on the dam the best in the World.
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  Speaker 8: Roman reigns the undisputed OTC enters the Rumble for.
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  Speaker 2: The first time in five years.
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  Speaker 8: If he eliminates twenty nine opponents, he'll earn his tenth
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  Speaker 8: spot in the WrestleMania main event, further cementing his dominance.
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  Speaker 4: World Rumble Knowledge Me.
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  Speaker 8: The Road to WrestleMania fittingly starts in the racing capital
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  Speaker 8: of the world, Indianapolis, with over sixty thousand fans in attendance,
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  Speaker 8: and making it across the finish line as the victor
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  Speaker 8: can serve as a career launching pad. Eleven competitors have
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  Speaker 8: won their first WWE hold title as a direct result
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  Speaker 8: of winning the Royal Rumble. This year, the Showcase of
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  Speaker 8: the Immortals takes over Sin City sixty superstars will compete
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  Speaker 8: in two Royal Rumble matches who will.
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  Speaker 2: Hit the jackpot and secure.
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  Speaker 8: The opportunity of a lifetime to headline or WrestleMania forty one.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, this is WWE and ECW alumni the Bluemenie and
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  Speaker 10: you're listening to PCW.
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  Speaker 11: The question is, oh you want to talk to I
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  Speaker 11: will give you a show like you have never covered seen.
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  Speaker 6: Before the life because I can't.
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  Speaker 10: What do you guys wanna talk about?
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  Speaker 6: God from the colored red in a world with a
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  Speaker 6: black and.
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  Speaker 11: White le need a world?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's your long.
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  Speaker 12: If you don't go see the cha.
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  Speaker 6: What's that big of mad? You got a bigga mad?
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  Speaker 6: What I said?
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  Speaker 10: WHOA right it?
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  Speaker 13: Hey?
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  Speaker 6: You know the fact you red some tact of w.
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  Speaker 13: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
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  Speaker 10: Chill.
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  Speaker 13: Just welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast
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  Speaker 13: Championship Wrestling. I am your host also known as Semi
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  Speaker 13: dry Chicken Well Wayne also semi dran Chicken.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 13: We are covering the Royal Rumble post show today. We
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  Speaker 13: have a lot to cover even though there's only four matches,
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  Speaker 13: but two very long rumble matches. But let's get right
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  Speaker 13: into it here we go.
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  Speaker 7: Get a young page eron verot you stuck stuff.
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  Speaker 13: Enterrant number one, Doyle, Oh it's me, It's me.
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  Speaker 10: It's a d Oi Ley. God damn it is that
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  Speaker 10: song catchy?
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  Speaker 13: But you said it to me. I totally forgot what
• 11:35
  Speaker 13: that song was until I I started listening to Mike. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 13: now it's stuck in my hands.
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  Speaker 10: I'm the Black History Month though Hall of Famer Coco
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  Speaker 10: b Ware.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, sir, all right, let's get on to our number
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  Speaker 13: two entrant.
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  Speaker 10: Here we go.
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  Speaker 6: So, hey, hey, may have been tell you who's t me?
• 12:12
  Speaker 10: It's just me?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, dang it is touching me, dang touching me? Oh okay,
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  Speaker 6: dang on this damn lot of mo coming knack.
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  Speaker 7: Of damn black dam I did.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, it's on me news.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Jim, I'll you dre.
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  Speaker 4: What a do pc W crew main event dre Uso
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  Speaker 4: is now on your podcast?
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  Speaker 13: Alright, what a proper song for this episode?
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  Speaker 4: Huh yep, props on that Coco Beware song. That might
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: be the second best song about a bird ever.
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  Speaker 13: Wait, what's the first one? Free bird?
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  Speaker 4: No, more's day in the time bird.
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  Speaker 13: That's a free bird.
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  Speaker 10: I thought he was gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Say, that's too obvious of the answer.
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  Speaker 10: That might be the worst bird song ever annoying birds online,
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  Speaker 10: I will I won't even put that one on the
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  Speaker 10: sound board.
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  Speaker 13: It's that annoying. No way.
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  Speaker 4: You could maybe give honorable mention to Nelly for titles
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  Speaker 4: I'm like a bird.
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  Speaker 13: So let me ask you guys a question. If you
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  Speaker 13: were a wrestler and uh, you have new theme music
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  Speaker 13: right coming up, you can you can either pick it now.
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  Speaker 13: You can use it now at the rumble, or you
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  Speaker 13: can use it maybe a days after the rumble. Maybe
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  Speaker 13: what's that any other time? Right? I don't I don't
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  Speaker 13: have to finish the question. I don't have to finish
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  Speaker 13: the question. It's it's people who decide I'm going to
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  Speaker 13: try out a new theme music at the rumble.
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  Speaker 10: Is the h there were a couple of people who
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  Speaker 10: did that.
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  Speaker 13: Ben, Yeah, it's like it's a god awful idea, Like
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  Speaker 13: you come out your music. That's why, like what we
• 14:28
  Speaker 13: have in our show, we have you guys have your
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  Speaker 13: own theme music. So when listeners are out there, they
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  Speaker 13: hear that theme music something they're you know, accustomed to
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  Speaker 13: they know who it is. They hear Dre's music, they
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  Speaker 13: know it's Dray on this episode. You know, Doyle, you're
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  Speaker 13: the only one that's like.
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  Speaker 10: A wild card.
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  Speaker 13: But that's your thing. That's but like you know, Carlos
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  Speaker 13: come back like you know, he has been on a bit,
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  Speaker 13: but he comes back to his music. It's you know
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  Speaker 13: who he is. You know exactly who he is because
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  Speaker 13: we didn't change his music. He's got the same theme song.
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  Speaker 10: I mean it was Yeah, I like to keep guessing.
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  Speaker 13: Man. Yeah, somebody who's listenings like, oh shit, Coco, be aware,
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  Speaker 13: who the fuck is this? Who the hell is this?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you might have like two seconds of confusion,
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  Speaker 4: like what the fuck?
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  Speaker 12: Oh it must be.
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  Speaker 13: Doyle, It must be Doyle, right, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 4: But it works though, because there reminds people of older
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: things that they probably forgot about. Because I ain't lie,
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  Speaker 4: I can't tell you the last time I heard Coco
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  Speaker 4: be ware steam.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah that's true, that's very true. I can't think either.
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  Speaker 13: Did anybody watch the kickoff show? I don't know how
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  Speaker 13: long it was this time.
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  Speaker 12: Nope, I was at work.
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  Speaker 13: I see though, if you're going peacock the Kickoff Show
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  Speaker 13: is a completely different thing. So if you like missed
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  Speaker 13: the Rumble and you wanted to catch up, you can
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  Speaker 13: also watch like two three hours or so of the
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  Speaker 13: Kickoff Show before you watch the actual Rumble. I wonder
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  Speaker 13: if there's like any hardcore fans out there who watched
• 16:15
  Speaker 13: the whole thing, who watched the kickoff show, who watched
• 16:18
  Speaker 13: the full thing.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know there are, mother man.
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  Speaker 4: You know there are there are people who are those diehards,
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  Speaker 4: especially for big pods like the Rumble. They have watch
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  Speaker 4: parties and everybody's coming over, and they get the food ordered,
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  Speaker 4: and they got the pre show up there. They're getting hype.
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  Speaker 4: You know, those people exist.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, I will say I do. The earliest I will
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  Speaker 13: put it on is maybe like twenty minutes. I won't
• 16:44
  Speaker 13: put it on like, you know, like an hour or so,
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  Speaker 13: because it's just recap in the same videos, the same packages,
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  Speaker 13: the same shit we've seen day and day out. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 13: don't need to see it again. But yeah, and you
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  Speaker 13: know what, though, as soon as I saw a biggie
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  Speaker 13: up on that Kickoff fan, I was like, I ain't
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  Speaker 13: gotta be in the rubble. I think we said that
• 17:07
  Speaker 13: in the chat was like, I ain't got me in
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  Speaker 13: the rubble, Like, I don't think he's gotta single it
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  Speaker 13: underneath that suit.
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  Speaker 14: So if you did, yeah, I probably put it on
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  Speaker 14: in the background or something, but I wouldn't be like
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  Speaker 14: actively sitting there watching it.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, only four matches for this. Even though we started
• 17:33
  Speaker 13: at six o'clock, it still ended like ten thirty yep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 13: so we were all excited. Oh man, I'm gonna start
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  Speaker 13: a little early, I'm gonna get done early. I'm gonna
• 17:43
  Speaker 13: get to go to sleep early. Nope, not at all.
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  Speaker 13: It was leaked. I mean, the women's Rumble was an
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  Speaker 13: hour and ten minutes. The tag team match was you know,
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  Speaker 13: believe or not even though it was a two out
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  Speaker 13: of three falls it was fourteen minutes. The ladder mass
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  Speaker 13: crazy right for for two out of three falls at
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  Speaker 13: match and then ladder match twenty five minutes, and then
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  Speaker 13: the men's Rumble and how' and twenty minutes? Bananas?
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  Speaker 4: So where the funk were the other damn hour and
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  Speaker 4: a half spent on because that map only adds up
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  Speaker 4: to like three Yeah, that was an actual matches. What
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  Speaker 4: the hell was the other hour and a half going to?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, you're absolutely right, fucking ads and it's going to
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  Speaker 13: fucking McAfee showing his fucking highlight reel.
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  Speaker 10: If I didn't hate that stupid piece of shit enough,
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  Speaker 10: what I like? Oh yeah, this is when the the
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: start of me hating you was when you played for
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: the Colts because you were fucking cocksucker. Then you're cocksucker
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: now I fucking hate the Colt. Fuck Peyton Man and
• 18:54
  Speaker 10: fucking Andrew Luck.
• 18:56
  Speaker 13: Fuck So, Doyle, tell us how you really feel.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, show me on this doll where Marvin Harrison hurt you.
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  Speaker 10: He heard me because his son didn't come to New England.
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  Speaker 10: That's where he hurt me.
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  Speaker 12: Hey where is he? He's in Arizona.
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: That sounds like it might be right, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Probably, I'll really like, I really wonder what where did
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  Speaker 4: it go? Because it felt like there wasn't a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot of time between the matches, maybe like what fifteen
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  Speaker 4: minutes or so between the matches, we didn't get any
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  Speaker 4: like filler something.
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  Speaker 10: There was I have it right here, Actually there was not.
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  Speaker 10: There was not. You're absolutely right, there wasn't a whole
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  Speaker 10: lot of waiting. Only an hour and fourteen minutes on
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: this show. So there was like almost thirteen between the
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: women's rumble and the tag match, almost nineteen between the
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: tag match and the ladder match, and then about twenty
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  Speaker 10: minutes before the men's rumble. So actually, not too too bad.
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  Speaker 4: Consider me, that's that ad revenue. That's that's all that's
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  Speaker 4: gotta be. We're just gonna run twenty minutes of ads
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  Speaker 4: in bullshit, Not that.
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  Speaker 15: We don't have no fucking ads in the middle of
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  Speaker 15: the ring, you know, although I imagine a significant portion
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  Speaker 15: of the night was just spent going to and from
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  Speaker 15: the ring because that was one of the longest entrance ramps.
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  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, it was that long, especially for a rumble. Uh.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I get that they want to have them
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  Speaker 10: in these huge arenas and everything, but I wish they
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: could find a way to shorten that ramp length somehow.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know what. I don't know if there's a.
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  Speaker 13: Tunnel or what, but golf cart.
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  Speaker 10: It was like when Punk came in, he got in
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  Speaker 10: the ring like he hadn't there hadn't been a single
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  Speaker 10: offensive move, but before the account, before the other person
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  Speaker 10: was on their way down. You know, it's like, what
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  Speaker 10: the hell they count down? You see the person coming
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  Speaker 10: and then they go back to the action of the
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  Speaker 10: ring and by the time the person who comes out
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  Speaker 10: it actually enters the match, I already forgot who who
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  Speaker 10: it was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the same thing happened with Charlotte, Like
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  Speaker 4: she took her time walking to the ring, and by
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  Speaker 4: the time she got in, literally they were counting down
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  Speaker 4: the next person.
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  Speaker 10: But yeah, I will tell you what. Uh so twot
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  Speaker 10: thirty person matches, you had sixty chances for somebody to
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: go ass over teakettle running down that ramp, and nobody
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  Speaker 10: did to their or nobody that they caught on camera.
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  Speaker 16: Anyway, I thought, dude, you know, you know they never run,
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  Speaker 16: you know what I mean, like Ron Stroman, look isn't
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  Speaker 16: out there, you know, pounding a pavement, putting miles on
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  Speaker 16: uh and seeing some of these big muscle bound trying
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  Speaker 16: to run.
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  Speaker 10: Was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody was getting They would come out there with
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  Speaker 4: an initial walk, let the crowd react, and then I
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  Speaker 4: got to get to a ring and hit like a
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  Speaker 4: brisk jaw. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: But I mean, kfe why Charlotte had the right idea.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I take my sweet ass time. Why why
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  Speaker 10: hurry Ludwa Kaser took his time also, and then he
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: was in there for ten seconds. But like, I mean,
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  Speaker 10: if it was a real sport, why would why would
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  Speaker 10: you be in a hurry to get in there? Exactly
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  Speaker 10: takes perfect sense to ticket Hell.
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  Speaker 4: It was Hell. If it was me, I would have
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: done something similar to lulvid Kaiser, but not like that.
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  Speaker 4: I would walk down to the ring, pull up a
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  Speaker 4: chair and just sit.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I remember there was a there was a It
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  Speaker 10: wasn't a Royal Rumble, but it was a battle Royal
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  Speaker 10: on on old Saturday and night. It was a Saturday
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  Speaker 10: Night's main event, and I remember Perfect spent a majority
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: of the match just hanging out at the ring at ringside,
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: and you know, bringing on commentary of course, putting him on.
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: Oh that's just so smart. But he was right, like
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: why why risk it any more than you have to?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Right, you can't get eliminated until you get in the ring.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: There's no rule that says you have to get in
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the ring when your number is called. I PLoP a
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: fucking chair, sit there, wait till the eyes look a
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: little bit more of my favor. Hell might even have
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: an extra chair with me lest the boy els come out,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: and I'd offer them a seat, Like, Hey, when I've seen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: Speak speaking of didn't his kid never get eliminated actually
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: technically from a Royal Rumble?
• 23:19
  Speaker 17: Like yeah, he's still like in two thousand and five
• 23:22
  Speaker 17: or something, he's still technically technically alive in the twenty
• 23:28
  Speaker 17: twenty four Royal or twenty four Rumble or whatever whatever
• 23:32
  Speaker 17: year it was.
• 23:33
  Speaker 13: Yeah, let's get into this rumble, man, Let's let's unpack
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: this dre Do you want to kick it off?
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 23:44
  Speaker 13: M hm.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Roller Rumble this year took place from Lucas Oil Stadium
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: in Indy Head in attendance of seventy thousand, three hundred
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: and forty seven people, and.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: It looked like there was a lot of a lot
• 23:58
  Speaker 10: of open floor space.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Still, yeah, they probably could have packed in more theoretically
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: if they it was.
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: An infomercial for Indianapolis. Uh, I'm wondering if it's on
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: their short list to do Mania in.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: The huge they were probably because they did sign a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: multi event deal. This wasn't just a full time think
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: with Indy right they I think if they're gonna.
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: Do Mania, they could probably have eighty eighty five thousand
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: there because there was a lot of open space on
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: that floor. Look, didn't we.
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: Have seventy two thousand Mania last year?
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: Sixty seven?
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I think we did sixty six Saturday and sixty seven
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Sunday something like that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so I mean it's like that it was just
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: a rumble, like holy shit.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they there was definitely room for more people,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Like I'm pretty sure they did sign a like a
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: multi event or a multi year deal or something with
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Right and with Indianapolis to do events theres and I think, well,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: not the rong role, but WrestleMania could very well be
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: in the cars for twenty twenty six or twenty seven,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: especially given how successful apparently that this is.
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: Because the reports were that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: This is the third highest gate or something that they've
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: ever had for any poe short, second only to Night
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: one to Night two of WrestleMania last year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: So they did numbers.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm pretty sure some part of that has
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to do with probably how much they've jacked up ticket prices,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: but that's neither here nor there, right, So get into
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: the actual show itself. They kicked off with the Women's
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Royal Rumbo match, and without going into all the details
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: of you know, who was in and orders or this,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: that a Third, we can just talk about general highlights,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: what moments jumped out to you, Which moments stood out
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: to you in the match itself. I think some of
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the moments that stood out to me, uh, most notably
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: was the person who probably got the pop of the
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: night out of everybody, and that was a returning.
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: Not Charlotte Flair, but Alexa Bliss.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that probably surprised
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: her and everybody just how huge of a pop she
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: got when her music hit.
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: And then she came out.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: With the Fiend Forever jacket with the R on it now,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: so friend forever. Nice homage to to Bray and a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: little bit of a nip tuck version of what's that
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: doll's named? Lily? Lily?
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, here's the question with Alex says that the
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: doll had a six in its eye, and the dirt
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: sheets are saying she's gonna be going to SmackDown and
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: guess who just got sent the SmackDown the wire six?
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: Sure enough, but the.
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: Dirt she's were wrong last week.
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: Right exactly.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: But the dirt also said that wasn't gonna be there.
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: So.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even if she were to come back
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: where would she fit in because she didn't come back
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: as any type of like character, but she didact.
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: Same gear she wore the last time you saw her,
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: which was said Roy Rumble two years ago.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see I could see her coming back. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: if she were to join them, I could see her
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: coming back as like their manager or their leader of sorts,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: even though I know supposed to he supposed to be
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: a boe as there or else. Uncle Howdie is supposed
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: to be their leader. But I could see Alexis taking
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: more of that forward facing role, being like we.
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: Could see her every week and maybe not see them
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: because we don't see them every week.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Obviously exactly Like she could be the one that commands
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: them and some of them she's the gun there the
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: bullets she points and they go. She could be their
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: mouthpiece and such. I think that would work pretty good
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: for her. Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: I would also not mind if she had nothing to
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: do with them, but if she does, I think that's
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: a great idea.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think others standout moments for me. I love
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to see. I appreciated that Roxane Perez really got to
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: shine in this match, being one of the first entrants,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: not the very first but I think she came in
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: what single digits if I'm not mistaken, three Yeah, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: made it all the way to the final two.
• 28:29
  Speaker 12: So she had a very impressive She.
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: Set the women's record, which they seem that every single year.
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: She did, Like, I'm wondering what they're doing with that, Like,
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: because what are they gonna do? Have a two hour
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: oil rumble some year so that somebody can be in there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: That's a record to set the bar that high this quickly.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it. Yeah, I agree with that as well.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think it would probably be good to let rock
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Stand hold that record for a while.
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: That can kind of play it and.
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: Then thirty one minutes, but now we're gonna run boom
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: right up to our plus you know it's just.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Like hours, seven minutes, forty seven seconds.
• 29:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah, let her hold that for a while.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: That can play into her prodigy character, especially if she's
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: a main roster bound. But she had a good showing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely there's much left.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, hell, she's already feuding with Bailey over
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: on NXT now, so what what's left for her? Surprisingly, though,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: no j Cargill in this rumble, no no return for her. No, Surprisingly,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: we did get Nia Nikki Bella who came out to.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: Not the pop that I think they thought.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Wait, I hear a lot of.
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: People wanted aj Lee, So when we got Nicky Ba,
• 30:01
  Speaker 13: it was very similar to you know, maybe that one
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: year we got Raymi Stereo instead of Daniel Bryan for
• 30:07
  Speaker 13: number thirty in the crowd.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Of course, everybody's gonna want a j Lee as long
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: as see them Punk is in WW.
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: People are gonna want people.
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: Just gotta let that shit go. She's just not coming back.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: Cut they cut to that that uh, that thing they've
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: been promoting where you go watch it on the half
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: big huge screen.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Oh like the VIP section.
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they showed. They showed that, and and the thing
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: they showed was Nicky Bella's entrance. And nobody reacting at all.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: As they literally said on the mic, this overwhelming reaction
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to Nikki Doll's return.
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: And those people could not have been more stagnant.
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: Somebody's looking at their phone, you know, home like ye.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: All I could think of was that Roman reigns. Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: no pop, Yeah, they had zero reaction. Also, nice to
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: see trist Stratus return in the rumble.
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Apparently she's on they sent her in at number twenty
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: five and then her screen that they didn't really mention it,
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: but her screen said like twenty five years of stratisfaction
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: or something, which makes me think they're gonna do more
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: with her. This wasn't a one off.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, especially because they're what elimination chambers in Toronto, right. Yep. Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: she'd be crazy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: For her not to have.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Hopefully she has a role that's not just host of
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the event, because that's yes. I'd like to see her
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: have some sort of actual match or some sort of tent,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: some sort of meaningful involvement there, especially for twenty fifth
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: anniversary year. But she had a pretty decent showing. One
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: part I did like in the rumble was her having
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a square up with Naya Jacks. I thought that it
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: wasn't long, it wasn't much. I really enjoyed it because
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: you have Naya Jackson, this big, dominant woman who's been
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: running through the whole women's division, and small trist Stratus,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and you would think that Nia Jacks should squash her,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: but it's trist Stratus.
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: She's the legend.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: She has that aura, so her aura and her status
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: is able to stand up to Nia Jack's and look strong,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: albeit for a while before she did get tossed, But
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: that little exchange I liked it. I like the way
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: they played that out right. And then of course, yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Charlotte Flair came back and one, yeah, yeah, it was
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: you want to talk about I'm gonna say it right now.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: This might be an early candidate for Botch of the
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Year whenever we do our Slammies at the end of
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the year, because I feel like this was that bad
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: of a miss calculation of having her win, even though
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: it didn't seem to come across on the show itself
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: that night, that reaction to her winning was deaf won
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: her pop that when she came out wasn't it was okay,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: but it wasn't what Alexa Bliss got.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: And the fact that they gave.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Her pyro as well, that was awkward, awkward that it
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: was like. And then she won and and there was
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: some cheers, but not the type of overwhelming response that
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: they thought they that they probably thought they were going
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: to get. And it just reeks of the one thing
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: that's always annoyed me the most about Charlotte Flair, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: it's the privilege of it all of just the whole
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: just because she's her. All this stuff has to be
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: handed seemingly handed to her without any type of work
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: or run up or anything. Got And I think we
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: all picked Charlotte Flair to win the Rumble, if I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: not mistaken, right, I picked Okay, you picked Bianca.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: And I said it was a coin flip between the
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: two of them.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, and Wayne, you me and you picked Charlotte, right right, right, Okay, Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: My logic was that they weren't.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't have to do that to us, right, So
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: so yeah, so we so, Wayne and I picked Charlotte Doll,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: You picked Bianca.
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: Did any of us.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Actually want Charlotte Flair to win? I'm gonna say no,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I did not actually want her to win.
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: Because, you know what, like it sounds, it looks good
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: on paper, right, but at the end of the day,
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: like it's just it, it wasn't the right person. Wasn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 13: the right person right now, It wasn't the person who's
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: been there to been busting their ass for the past year.
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: It's just not the right person for the push. It's
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: not the right person for the title picture. It's it's
• 34:48
  Speaker 13: just what they might think might be a safe bet,
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: you know, The only thing I can think of is
• 34:55
  Speaker 13: if they're really thinking about putting like Tiffany at and
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: over Charlotte, you know, God, that'd be something else. You know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: A catapult for Tiffany has taken very serious as a
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: main event, you know, Wrestler beaten Charlotte WrestleMania or are
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: they going to do this?
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: You know? Yeah, I didn't know. I wanted Charlotte Ria
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: three as bad as I apparently do.
• 35:21
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and now it's you know, reminding us the history
• 35:25
  Speaker 13: of Charlotte and Ria, Like there is a lot of
• 35:27
  Speaker 13: history there to to let's do this rubber match, like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: This would actually be a third different title belt, which
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: is kind of cool.
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, the iteration of the title and like Ria
• 35:39
  Speaker 13: is not like she says, like I'm not a kid, no,
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: more like it's changed. The game has fucking changed for
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: for Ria and Charlie. It's a different game. It's they're
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: trying to make it the women's version of Stone Cold
• 35:53
  Speaker 13: and Rock at WrestleMania, right, Is that what it feels like?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Honestly to me, No, because either one of them scream
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Rock to me at all, and to me, they they don't.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: They don't share that same rivalry, like Stone Cold and
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Rock to Stone Colder Rock. Their trajectories paralleled each other.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: They kind of came up at around the same time.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Stone Cold hit the mountaintop a little bit faster than
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the Rock did. But for the most part they parallel
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: each other. Charlotte and Rhea, there's almost like a there's
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: like a generational gap between them, you know, so like
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: because there's obviously Charlotte who was with the Four Horse Women,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Rhea is almost like that general that NSC generation that
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: came after them, So they don't have that same parallel
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: to me, like like Stone Cold and Rock did, so
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: don't I don't see it there. If there was gonna
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: be any kind of Stone Cold Rock comparison within the
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: women's division, I know a few years ago I made
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the comparison that it could have been between uh Bianca
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: and Becky, given how hot they were at the moment,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: and they were both two at the top. Obviously that's
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: kind of died off a little bit. They haven't revisited
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: that in a while. But if you were to do
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: it now, if there's any kind of Stone Cold Rock
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: comparison to be made, I would say it could potentially
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: be between Bianca and Rhea, Right, I think the potential exists
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: there and I know yet y'all talked about doing the
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Charlotte and Rea three. I have no desire to see
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: that the match was good they I know they could
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: both put on banger matches, but I would much rather
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: see them face different people. Like for my money, if
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Riea's gonna face somebody in WrestleMania, I want her to
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: either face Bianca bel Air or Eo Sky.
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: Either one of those two is who I want.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: In fact, Eos who I would have wanted to win
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: the Rumble if I would have, if I would have
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: had my pick of it. I think she's been on
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that upward trajectory. Yes, she is a former champion, but
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: she's also had that path since losing it of working
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: her way back up. She's had the title shots, she's
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: gotten close. Yeah, and she's organically gotten over as hell
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: with the with the fans, you know, which we all know.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: For for a wrestler who's for whom English isn't their
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: first language, that's hardest ship to do when you don't
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: have the benefit of being able to go out there
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: and cut promos on the mic every week. She's getting
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: buy off pure work and that's it. And she's over
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: as hell right now.
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: Who would you want to see her face at Mania?
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Io? Yes, yo, I would have had if she would
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: have won, I wanted I would want her face Maria
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Ripley and yeah, yeah, I would have Io go big
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: and do it. That could be a real David versus
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Goliath type match. See if Little I could take down
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: you know, big Ria. I think that they could cook.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: That could be a hell of a match.
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: Now, the match at the Chamber, that's for a title
• 39:05
  Speaker 13: shot at Mania, right, It's not for the title.
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's for whoever the Rumble winner.
• 39:10
  Speaker 13: Doesn't still do EO versus Ria at Chamber. I mean
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: it's like Ria did kind of screw up her title shot,
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: you know, getting getting into the Chamber. She's like, why
• 39:22
  Speaker 13: don't I just give you a match? I doubt it,
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: But I really doesn't have anything booked for Chamber as.
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: Of now right right, he does, except we have a
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: few entrants, and I think that's it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 12: Other than that, we don't have any matches.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: Yes, she could go the round, I mean I proposed
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: it myself.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I think in the discord that Ria should try to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: make it up to EO by offering her a match,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: But I'm kind of rethinking that because I think if
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: they have a match, I want to see EO win.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: So if if EO were to face her at say
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Elimination Chamber, she probably obviously lose because they're gonna want
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: to say Rhea definitely. They definitely want to have whatever
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Rea facing somebody defending that title at WrestleMania against somebody.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: So if she would have a match with EO, either
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: at Elimination Chamber or the go Home Raw before it,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: it would be pretty obvious that Io's gonna lose, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: she's kind of in the same place that Jay was
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: in at some point where you eventually you get tired
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: of seeing them challenge for the title and constantly lose.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: More so with EO than with Jakes. I think Eel's
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: probably had more within the last year or so, probably
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: had more title shots I think than Jays and come
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: up short.
• 40:46
  Speaker 10: Really, it seems like Jay lose the title match every
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: other week.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong about that. They could be somewhat
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: neck and neck, but I think it's kind of the
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: same thing. Like we just saw her have the match
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: against liv where she challenged and lost, and I think
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: she's been maybe you had a couple other ones. Again,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but I would like to see
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: that match happen at.
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: Mania and the iogo over.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I think That's where I'm at with it right now,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: and then let Charlotte face or challenge Tiffy on the
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: SmackDown side for the ww Women's Championship, which they're good at.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, They're probably gonna have to find some way
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: to pivot that because I'm pretty sure they were planning
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: on Tiffy being the heel and Charlotte being the babyface
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: going into that match, and the fans have said otherwise
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: because they is not feeling Charlotte. She came out there
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: on Monday night, Raw tried to cut that babyface promo
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: and them fans said, fuck you.
• 41:56
  Speaker 12: You're good to get these boobs.
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: You're talking about Rock and Stone Cold comparison. Maybe maybe
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: Rock and Hogan comparisons there. If you do a double turn,
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: if the crowd demands a double turn in that one,
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: if it's Charlotte and and Tiffy, yeah that that that
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: could be that possibility.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: But their turn happened in the match itself. Yeah, going
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: in st Rock was a clear face and Hogan was
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: the clear heel and it happened in the match. Right now,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: we're still.
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: Still trying to book Tiffy as a heel, whether the
• 42:28
  Speaker 10: crowd buy it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm yeah, that's what I'm saying. They we
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: still got what.
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: I don't know what they're doing.
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they have a hard time.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna have a hard time trying to
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: keep Charlotte as a baby face for the next two months.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Nothing not based upon that reaction she got on Raw Monday,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: they might want to go ahead and just they got
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: plenty of time.
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: They do, yea they that they do?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Any other thoughts from anybody else on the Women's Rumble?
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: A couple of things. First of all, I loved the
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: running chiron at the bottom of the screen. I thought
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: it gave more of like a legitimate sports feel. Uh
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: you know, it really kind of helped people like me
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: who are middle aged and have wrecked their brain with marijuana,
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: who have no short term memory left remembering what number
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: are they on, who who's been in, who was out?
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: And I wish they had it last year because last
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: year for the Rumble, I was in New Orleans and
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: I forgot that there was a time difference. So I'm
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: putting around the French court out of thinking, oh yeah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: I's probably go back to the hotel, and I, oh, fuck,
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: it's starting now. I had to run run back to
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: my corner suite into four Seasons and and I was
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: so lost. I said, what is that Naomi in there?
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: What the fuck is going on? I wish they had
• 43:56
  Speaker 10: the Chiron last year. Uh? But but ba boo? What else? Oh?
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: I think we kind of touched on this a minute ago.
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: But theme music Jesus Christ. Less so in the It's
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: the same in the men's match, but less so more
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: so in the women's match. They got to do something
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: about about these theme songs. I mean, you know, I
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: watched this ship religiously, and I only picked up about
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: a quarter of the themes right off the bat. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: think in the women's match now, I think in fairness,
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: you know, like, how often do you hear Piper's music?
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: Not very often. She's always coming down with Chelsea. You
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: get Chelsea's music. I don't know what the fuck the
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: fix is here, you know, I don't know. I don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: think you can wipe out almost everybody's theme song and
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: start over all at once. That doesn't seem like a
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: great idea. Maybe more people need uh sound effect or
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: something you know, like the breaking glass or the car
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: crash that mankind had, or even you know, or even
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: the Tiffy Time or whatever, something that immediately this is,
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: you know, wrestler X.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Those seem to be the only ones that you can
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: really remember, too, are the ones that have something at
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: the beginning. But even with that, I don't know that
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I remember their music beyond the moment. If you play
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I mean like if you paid, if you played Tiffy
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Tiffty Stratton's music for me without the Tiffy Time at
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: the beginning, I wouldn't recognize it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 10: And one of the biggest pops of the night is
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: for a guy that has never been on Raw, never
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: been on SmackDown, only been on NXT a handful of times. Uh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 10: And I mean you can argue that Joe Henry is
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: over because of his theme song, but whatever, if you're over,
• 45:39
  Speaker 10: you're over, and that guy's over and the reason is
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: he's got a recognizable theme song. Now, another thing, this
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: was the eighth Women's Royal Rumble. They did eight years
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: doesn't seem like a long time unless you're doing a bid.
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: But wow, this division has really really come a long
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: way in a really short amount of time. I actually
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: went back and looked at the first Women's Royal Rumble
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: eight years ago. About half of the entrance were from
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: NXT or Legends, and not because the NXT women's division
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: was so stacked like it is now. It's because the
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: main roster was so thin at the time, and of
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: those thirty entrants, twenty of them were white women. Now
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: you fast forward to this year, you got white women,
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: black women, Asian women, Latino women, mixed race women, tall women,
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: short women's, guinea women, larger women, shall we say muchcular women, Canadians, milts,
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff, people and time in our culture
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: when diversity is such a dirty word, I thought it
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: was great to see such a huge range of human beings,
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: all you know, performing in the same match or whatever
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: you you know. I thought that was great to see.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, the women's roster is deep enough right now within
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: the v W itself that we can remark on noteworthy
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: names who were not in the rumble, who didn't make
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: who arguably didn't make the cut. No j Cargill for
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: maybe reasons of obvious of injury or whatever, but perfectly
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: healthy and capable women who didn't make the rumble. Killinie
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Jordan was not in the rumble. Saw Raka, somebody that
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: we talked about in our prediction show was not in
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the Rumble.
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: Well, they're all NXT people. I mean, I was merely
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: talking about how in the first Women's Royal Rumble was
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: so reliant on NXT people because they didn't have Maine
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: roster enough. Right, Maine roster, I mean, I think the
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: NXT people. But when it speaks of how stacked NXT
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: is also, you know that you can make the case
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: that all of these people are good enough in NXT
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: to be in the Royal Rumble and the main roster.
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean even main roster. Mitchen wasn't in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: Rumble this year, was she?
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: She was?
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: She was yep, Okay, nothing memorable didn't return.
• 48:04
  Speaker 18: I mean she could have been in there, right well,
• 48:08
  Speaker 18: I think she's I think she just had a kid again.
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: But who's Who's what? Carter and what's her name? And
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: they weren't in the Scottish Witches girls, they weren't in it. Uh,
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: there were a number of main roster women that weren't
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: in it.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: That could have been right and that that definitely speaks
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: to like we said, how deep this roster is?
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah, what do you call it?
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: Shatzi bump for access at Yeah.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, you're one correct. They've come a
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: long way.
• 48:50
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, uh, I think I mean we had
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: a nice comedy spots. We had a couple of good
• 48:57
  Speaker 13: comedy sports. Chelsea Green was like the highlights of it. Yeah,
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: of the Rubble made it great. Getting eliminated by Piper Nevin.
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: I think it was funny as hell.
• 49:08
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: Jordan Grace did pretty good in the Rumble. Uh that
• 49:14
  Speaker 13: was that death Valley driver.
• 49:16
  Speaker 12: To uh Piper President Yeah, and lifted her.
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, and you know, uh, like we were
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: talking about the Dirty's selling us that Alexa Bliss wasn't
• 49:31
  Speaker 13: coming back, and you know, she was gone long enough
• 49:36
  Speaker 13: for me to be like content And there was a
• 49:39
  Speaker 13: lot of comments I was reading that people were contentency
• 49:41
  Speaker 13: to come back. It's like, you know, a coworkers just
• 49:45
  Speaker 13: hasn't been there for a while and then you just
• 49:47
  Speaker 13: hear they just got let gos Okay, you know I
• 49:51
  Speaker 13: would have been contentency to come back, but she did,
• 49:53
  Speaker 13: and yeah, it was pretty damn shocking and the crowd
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: fucking loved it. You're right, Doyle, same Alvid, she weren't
• 50:00
  Speaker 13: twenty twenty three. I like how she comes out with
• 50:03
  Speaker 13: a skirt on, because she used to just come out
• 50:06
  Speaker 13: and do promos in that skirt and that was it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 13: She went wrestle and then she like you know, takes
• 50:11
  Speaker 13: it off. It's like Bam raad to wrestle, Like I'm
• 50:13
  Speaker 13: ready to get down. She didn't eliminate anybody, but she
• 50:19
  Speaker 13: did get eliminated by Live Morgan.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: I think they're definitely setting up something there. Yeah, and I.
• 50:25
  Speaker 13: Feel like before she left there was a little bit
• 50:29
  Speaker 13: of few between the two starting and nothing ever happened
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: with it because of you know, Lexa leaving. So hopefully,
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: like we get to see a few between them two,
• 50:41
  Speaker 13: you know, soon, And you know, I was thinking, if
• 50:43
  Speaker 13: if she ends up going to the Wyatt six, right,
• 50:48
  Speaker 13: you know, what's her name? What's the other girl? And
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: nick Nikki isn't Nicky Nikki crosses in there? They could
• 50:57
  Speaker 13: be they could be contenders for a tag title. Who
• 51:01
  Speaker 13: Live and Raquel are currently trying to chase down. You know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: just a thought, you know, just another female tag team
• 51:09
  Speaker 13: I just put together right there, a former female tag team,
• 51:13
  Speaker 13: but now in a different iteration.
• 51:15
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 51:16
  Speaker 13: Now they're like the White six female tag team.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I thought it was.
• 51:22
  Speaker 13: Great seeing Trish back and I popped for I know
• 51:27
  Speaker 13: nobody else did. Must have been quiet. That was for
• 51:31
  Speaker 13: the fan to decide, and that was me. Uh how
• 51:37
  Speaker 13: about the massive botch, the massive one where I have
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: it all written out here, where uh Nia Jacks tried
• 51:45
  Speaker 13: to eliminate like five or six people at once.
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was like, that didn't look like it happened.
• 51:51
  Speaker 13: That was poorly done, like.
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: Like it was. It was a bunch of names.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Mentioned, Yeah, big name.
• 52:02
  Speaker 13: And then Morgan. It was so poorly done. It was
• 52:07
  Speaker 13: so bad.
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: I don't I don't know if that if that went
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: wrong or what.
• 52:12
  Speaker 13: Well, the worst part.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Of it was definitely a botch.
• 52:15
  Speaker 13: And the worst part of it all is like it
• 52:18
  Speaker 13: will be down in the history books, is Nia eliminating
• 52:20
  Speaker 13: all of them?
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah? But the planting spot was form what I understand,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: it was for her to eliminate all of those women
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: at once. It was supposed to be like a big
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: power flex from Nijacks getting them all out. It was
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: just so poorly executed that it didn't come off as
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: clean as it was supposed to.
• 52:38
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, should have been.
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: Uh yeah, the new NXT girls versus the old NX
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: two girls.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah that Julia, Stephanie and Roxanne squaring up with
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Charlotte Bianca and uh was it Bailey?
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah it might have been. That was a cool moment.
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: What was up with Zoe Stark's face paint? What the
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: fuck was that? That looked horrible with like who who
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: I I'm.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Just gonna swipe this across my face and yep, go
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: and make it work, Like.
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: Noah almost botched that. I think I assumed she was
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: trying to do her missile drop kick, which really nicely
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: she turned.
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: It into a clothesline. Yeah, that was the nice recovery.
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: That's a veteran move. There another move, I you know,
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: you know. I lovely Valcaria. One of my big knocks
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: on her was at her her Her gear usually looks
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: like she got into the dollar store, but she came
• 53:40
  Speaker 10: out this time and I was like, Wow, she's got
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: a new gear, looks great and immediately almost has a
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: wardrobe malfunction. But here's the veteran move live hit into
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: the corner and then goes over the back to EO.
• 53:55
  Speaker 12: And the camera pans away enough for her to Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: She has time to square herself up, which is really Yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: I love when you can see a little moment where
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: like the wrestlers help each other out or something.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some of those inside moments are nice to see.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Did y'all catch the moment when uh, Jordan Grace was
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: stopping Biaka in the corner, but it was stopping Biaka
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: into Naomi's chest and Bianca completely breaks character and starts laughing.
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that was pretty fun.
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: I love Beyonca's spot that she was doing in the
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: corner where she was doing the fists and then backflipping
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: and somebody else came and they didn't catch them, did
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: another backflip and punching them. That was a fun sequence.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was great.
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: Did Jada Parker debut new music? Also?
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was new music? No? No, yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: but she she was in the rumbles, she didn't have
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: She had a fairly brief run. She was in there
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: for less than seven minutes, got eliminated by Jordan Grace,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: who then proceeded to mock her uh Lebron James impersonation.
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: Oh and I liked. I like Chelsea interrupting the meeting
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: of the Black Girl meeting when I think it was
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: Jada Parker, lash Legend, Bianca and Naomi and rolls up,
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: Hey guys, what's going on and it needs to get
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: her ass?
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Kid.
• 55:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Chelsea was.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: She's clearly for a pure character perspective, she is the
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: best character on the roster.
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: Hell, and that brings in, uh, brings in paychecks. At
• 55:33
  Speaker 13: what point, though, is Chelsea gonna be out where she is?
• 55:38
  Speaker 13: Has achieved more than Zach Rder, not saying not saying, uh,
• 55:46
  Speaker 13: what's his real name, Matt Cardona, I'm saying Zach Ryder.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: So you're talking about the character Zach Ryder.
• 55:54
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean, I.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Will say, I don't remember anything noteworthy that Zach Ryder,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: the character did in w W E.
• 56:02
  Speaker 10: I think he might have been Icy champion a time
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: or two.
• 56:05
  Speaker 12: Oh, well, she's US champion, so they're tired.
• 56:06
  Speaker 13: YEA, what I'm saying, he was a nice Stations champ,
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: but yeah, he was former tag champion. But like, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 13: don't know, I think I think her career is a
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: little bit more than his. Even now.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: The moment she gets she wins a world title. Yeah,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: surpassed his w w E career.
• 56:27
  Speaker 13: That's fucking true. Yeah, or or money in the bank. Briefcase.
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: All I remember is Zach Ryder and like, uh, he
• 56:36
  Speaker 13: was in a neck brace in a wheelchair and I
• 56:39
  Speaker 13: think came like pushed him off the stage.
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: There's so many people in wheelchairs got thrown down stairs
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: or off the stage. I have totally lost track. It's
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: weird that it's happened enough times that I have forgotten
• 56:54
  Speaker 10: how many times it's happened.
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, did it to somebody?
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: I think Randy did it to somebody. Yeah, And Vince,
• 57:03
  Speaker 10: I think did it to somebody?
• 57:06
  Speaker 13: All right, Dre, you want to bring up the next match?
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Yep. So second match out of four was our Tag
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Team Championship match two out of three falls as d
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: I Y defended against the Motor City Machine Guns, which.
• 57:26
  Speaker 12: Was a good match.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: It was definitely a good match, albeit a very short match.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: But I will give them credit for finally putting a
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: tag team match on a pl E again, because this
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: is the first one we've had since WrestleMania forty.
• 57:43
  Speaker 10: But it seems like, Uh, I feel like they picked
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: a bad spot for it though, Uh, because everybody wants
• 57:49
  Speaker 10: to see obviously the Rumble matches and then at ladder match,
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: and this is just feller, you know.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: It was, but it had the it had the potential
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: to really be show stealing. I think had they given
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: them more time to cook, sure, I.
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: Think even even without that, I think if this exact
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: same match happened in a smaller room, you know where,
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: like with a you know, big, huge fucking venues like that,
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: the reaction has to be enormous for you to hear
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: TV at home, you know. So I think like in
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: a small you know, at Wells Fargo Center or where,
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: you know, in a basketball arena rather than a football arena,
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: this match might have cooked. The exact same match might
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: have felt totally different because the crowd might have been
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: The people that were into it would have been still
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: into it, but it viberated so much louder.
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a valid point.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Had this been on and on not as big
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: of a po where it was going to be outshined
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: by three far more highly anticipated matches, then yeah, people
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: could have maybe been more invested or more interest than it,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: because yeah, this in terms of the anticipation of the matches, Yes,
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: this is a far far down number four compared to
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: the other three on the card. So yeah, that that is.
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: Bactly clash of the Castle or something. I think it's
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: a total different reaction from the crowd.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and but they for what for what they got,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: they packed a lot into the match, I'll give them that. Like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I think probably one of the from an athletic standpoint,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: they gradually ramped up the athleticism in the match as
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: if things proceeded like it started off. There seemed to
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: be a whole lot of psychology in the match. Like
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a brilliant spot how the d
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I Y got the first fall simultaneous tags, but Johnny
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: pulling his hand out the way for the fake tag,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: duping them in the falling for it so that Tomaso
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Champlain could uh get the pinfall.
• 59:46
  Speaker 12: I thought that was brilliant.
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: It was. But they're clearly like they clearly set shots
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: up right like throughout the course of the night, you know,
• 59:55
  Speaker 10: like obviously that they planned on Kevin sitting on the
• 59:59
  Speaker 10: ground and Cody standing over them. I think there was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: a couple of Roman and somebody and I think Jacob
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: Fatu was behind him, and clearly they had set up
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: like at this time, this is how you guys are
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: going to stand. But they couldn't. They couldn't. They fucked up.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: That tag looked so bad. They just the way they
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 10: shot that actual fake tag, they like they didn't get it,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: Like it wasn't really clear of what was going on.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: The announcers seemed a little confused, even because.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: I thought that was the intent of it all, Like like.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: The ref and and and and the MotorCity machine Guns
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 10: weren't supposed to see it, but and I home wanted
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: to see it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: See I did catch it. I like, I maybe because
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: I was looking at them as opposed to looking at
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Motor City machine Guns in their tag. But I immediately saw
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: him dive and Johnny pulled his hand up. I'm like, oh,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: he didn't actually tag him, so I called it immediately.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: So I don't know.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why they thought so highly of the moment,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: because I saw it happened.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 10: Don't get me wrong that it was a brilliant spot.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: I great heeled move. I mean, you know, especially that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 13: first win. I mean, it's kind of it kind of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: went exactly how I thought it was gonna go. I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 13: was like, oh, they're going to steal the first win
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 13: and then you know the MotorCity machine guns are You're
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 13: going to get it, which is pure talent. They're just
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 13: gonna win it.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 10: Well yeah, I mean the heel always gets the first
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: fall the baby face.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 13: But it's how it kind of ended. I didn't see
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 13: that coming. I didn't see the street returning, so that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 13: was kind of that was refreshing. And then seeing them
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 13: not only turn on turn you know, help kind of
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 13: help Di I I rotaine, but like then turn on them.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 13: You know, now we know who took out d.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I Y right, well who took film out they which
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: was obviously d I Y from the jump, like everybody
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: knew that. Were just waiting to see the fallout from it.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Hopefully this translates into something and it's not just a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: moment because they've I feel like they've been dunking on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: freaking street profits for a while now. There needs to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: if y'all gonna do this, especially at the Rumble, there
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: needs to be a payoff, not just oh they're back
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: in the tag team picture and they're gonna.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 12: Have a match and lose.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: They can't afford anymore starting and stopping and face the heels.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 10: What what are we doing? Like they it's it's shure
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: to get off the pot time with the straight profits?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Are we?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 13: Are we? Uh?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 13: Leading to like a big maybe like a I can't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 13: think of, maybe a fourth tag team turn, but like
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 13: a fatal four way big tag match or Mania for
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 13: these titles.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe, but I don't see what I would if.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 10: One of the sets of titles anyway.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, probably the World the w W Tag Team Championship.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: At least, this is the only division that's cooking right now,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: the World Tag Team title scene. On raw it is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: still just as stagging it as can be, even with
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: even with having good champions and war Raiders.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: But as far as.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: These w W Tag Team Championship belts, I would much
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: rather it be a triple.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: Threat Tidy whitey underwear man supposed to be back soon,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 10: didn't Weren't they attagged? Wasn't he a tag team somebody?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: Him and up he done?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: He done?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah that was that was newcatch Republic.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: So there you go. There's another team.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah they can they and they maybe they can help
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: out with the tag division on Raw, So, but yeah,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: I would keep this one if if they're going to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: do that at Russell May, let it be a triple threat.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 12: Don't put a fourth team in it, because right now.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: One, if you put more teams a fourth team in it,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: then that's just diluting what we're gonna get and it
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: just kind of turns into more or less a spot fest.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 12: To keep it at either H two v two or
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 12: a triple threat tag.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: How many teams were in the Domania match this year?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Fuck?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: That was like a ladder match for both sets of times.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: For both titles. Yeah, I think it was like four
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: teams you had you have three Race and Wallach.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the a town down a Town down Under, you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: had Street Profits, I can't remember who.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Awesome Truth, yeah, because they won and then uh, Judgment Day.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: Because they weren't in that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: They weren't a six man with Lastly, weren't they?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they were in the sixth man with Lastly
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: against crossing them? Yeah, but Judgment Day awesome, Truth, a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Town down Under and somebody else doesn't matter, right, the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: might have been in that match.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 13: Yeah. Like this tag match, I thought it was gonna
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 13: be a lot more better but like you said, Dre,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 13: I agree, maybe if they had a lot more time
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 13: to cook, we could have gotten it. I still was
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 13: pretty flashy. I like Murder City machine Guns, and I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 13: think them and di Y together put a pretty good
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 13: quality match together. It's just give us more time. But
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 13: you know, insert the street profits. I mean it's making
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 13: more even interesting for me. So not match of the night,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 13: but decent match.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, I guess we're gonna get in
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: the lader match. I'd have taken five minutes off of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: that giving it to the tag match.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because uh yeah, I think we said enough about
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: the tag match. It is it is. We'll see where
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: they go from here. Street profits and need some respect
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: put on their names. Moving forward, moving on. Match three
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: was Kevin Owens facing Cody Rhodse to match for the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: undisped WWE Championship match that was won by Cody Rhodes
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: after a very brutal, very violentce match of twenty five minutes. Now,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: this match, it was, it was better than I thought
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: it was gonna be. And I don't say that and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: that I'm thinking that the match was gonna be gonna
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: be trash or anything like that. Like well, I knew
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: we were gonna get a good match, but I was
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: it was much more violent than I thought it was
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: gonna be.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 12: I guess that's the best word to use.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: I thought we were gonna get like more power spots
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: or spots off the ladder, like I thought it was
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: gonna get more aerial action out of this. Instead they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: use those ladders for pure brutality.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, it was. It was a match with ladders
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: rather than a ladder match, right, which I appreciate it.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because like I hate the ship ladder match.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: You know, somebody, you knock somebody down, then you climb
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: the ladder until you get two rungs away from the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 10: top and you forget, forget everything you've ever known about
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: how to climb the ladder, and then you stand there
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 10: for thirty seconds like a dufist until the other person
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 10: gets up and pulls you off the ladder and you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 10: just do that over and over and over.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Or you've got the person beat there, laid out
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: on the ground, you go climb the ladder. You could
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: easily win, but you turn around and say, nope, I'm
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: gonna jump on it.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: Even once climb the ladder, I don't think he did,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 10: or to go after the belts anyway.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 12: I don't know if he did it all.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it was just focused on beaten shitt of Cody,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 13: and just gradually it just got more violet and more worse,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 13: like the spots like oh god.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: Oh you know, And I kept thinking, because Cody's back
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: was torn the fuck up, I was like, what the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: hell does Kevin Kevin must look like but he had
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 10: their shirt on so you can't see, but I was like,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: if Cody looks this bad, you get Cody.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 13: That fisherman bust on the ladder, Oh, oh my god,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 13: that was cringey. And then even when Cody just like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 13: he had Kal in the ring and he just flipped
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 13: him over onto the ladder and the ladder wasn't laying flat,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 13: it was laying sideways, which I was to me, that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 13: hurt more than if it was laying flat.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or you're taking the piece of the ladder and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: just beating the funk out of each other with it,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: or the mini ladder that they just used as a weapon.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 13: Yeah, because like they started off very soft, they took
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 13: it into the crowd. They fought all over the crowd,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 13: which is cool. Made it back and then they started
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 13: getting out the ladders, and didn't they cut out the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 13: tiny ladder, which I started dying because, yeah, the tiny
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 13: liner horn.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie pulled out the tiny ladder.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, now, what's one of these motherfuckers is
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: going to an elbow drop off? That bitch.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 10: Kevin almost dead, I know.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 13: I was like, okay, tiny ladder, you can still use
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 13: as a weapon. Obviously climb so he us it exactly
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 13: that as a weapon. But yeah, it's and every time
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 13: you see a wrestler, I don't know, every time I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 13: see somebody set up like a table or a ladder,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 13: like outside the ring, it's most likely like the guy
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 13: who set up is the guy who's going through it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 13: And that's what happened to Kevin. Kevin was on the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: outside of the ring. He was gonna power bomb Cody
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 13: and he ended up getting flipped through and Alabama slammed
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 13: right through that fucking ladder and he didn't get up
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 13: the rest of the match, so he was pretty much
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 13: done after that.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 12: And Sammy's could have prevented that.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there for the longest time, and when sammy'se finally
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: came out, I don't know how many times he went
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: under that ladder back and forth to check on something
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: like you could just move the ladder out of the way, Sammy.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: Only the only drama in the match. And that's why
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 10: I would take points away from it as much as
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 10: I did like it, uh, is that the only drama
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 10: was what sam gonna do? Is he gonna do anything?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 10: And he didn't fucking do anything. You know, when when
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 10: Cody was crying that ladder, I'm like, yes, Sammy, go
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: fucking knock him fuck.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 12: Off, the kick his ass off the ladder. Nopeah, And then.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 10: He didn't, and I was like, god damn it. But
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 10: that was the only drama in the whole match though,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 10: right the foregone conclusion that Cody was gonna win, and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 10: it was like, like I said, it was just a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: little too long. There was a little too much waiting around.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 10: I thought I had to give him the five minutes.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 10: I had to take it five minutes away from this,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 10: giving it back to the tag.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Match, yep. And then we get to the final climbax
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: with that ladder posted up there and Cody fucking Alabama
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: slams Kevio through the ladder and he's folded up like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: a fucking pretzel. Yeah yeah, I mean neck threw the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: wrung of the ladder and just not moving at all,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: bloody battered. Cody's on top, He's winning. They finally unfold
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Kevin from the ladder. He's sitting there bloody as hell.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Sammy's Ain's there with him, and you have this victorious
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: champion up there celebrating. And first thought that popped into
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: my head Rocky four Ko's Apollo Creed, Sammy's Ain's Rocky,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: and Cody Rhodes's Drago. The story is right there all
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: like you talked about earlier, Doyle, all the fucking camera
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: framing they were doing tonight on that show, nobody thought
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: to set that shot up like that, like it was
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: right there to do, and they directly could have still
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: gone with it, but apparently they've decided not to given
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: what happened on Monday with freaking Kao coming out and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Cradle Pile driving Sammy's Ain see I think.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 10: He I think there's a chance he's Pile driving in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 10: to the dark side. Sammy Z has been showing all
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 10: the classics intoms of a heel turn, so I'm hoping
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: that that it's not a it's it's it's one of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: those weird the person that gets attacked ends up going
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: with the attacker situations somehow.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: I think I'm just about giving up hope on a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Sammy's ain heel turn. I mean, the motivation was right there.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: If they didn't they didn't pull the trigger.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 10: Then I'm gonna manifest it till it happened.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: If they didn't pull the trigger, then when it was
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: right there staring them in the face, you went too far.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: All same to say, I understand you had to match
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: YadA YadA, but.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: You went too far.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: Cody, you went too far, and then from there it's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: up in the air. Sammy could be the heel and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: be like you went too far, and now I gotta
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: fuck you up because what you did to my boy
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: or Cody could have been the hill, be like, man,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: fuck you and fuck Sammy's ain't up, and like, bitch,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: I'll put you in the hospital right alongside them. Nope, Instead,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: the homie fucked up the homie because the homie didn't
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: help the homie win the belt.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 13: Damn homie, right, I mean, come on, this is like
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: Kevin Owens what Fifth Rumble where he can't you know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 13: grab the title like for fifth title shot. I guess
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 13: at the Rumble like wad like, maybe you should stop trying.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 12: That'll be a storyline in twenty twenty six.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 13: Maybe you should just enter the rumble. You know what,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 13: I didn't even think about that. Maybe he has something
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 13: about not being in the actual Rumble and that that's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 13: why he wants just matches because he doesn't want to be.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: In the rumble.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 13: Could be I actually know that, think about I wonder
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 13: how many times he's actually been in the Rumble he's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 13: avoiding for so long.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: You can look that up. And while you're looking that up,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: you can move on. The main event of the Men's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Royal Rumble, which was won by none other than main
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: event Jay Usso in the shock of the year so far,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: none of us picked Jay to win.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: I said that there were ten guys that could make
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 10: a case for Yeah, and I would have put Ja
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 10: as number ten.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 17: On that least two guys that didn't even end up
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 17: showing up in the match.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: I think I was the only one that even had
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: j in the final four, and I didn't even pick
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: him to win.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 12: I think I picked Sena.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially so once it came down to once it
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: came down to Sena and Jay, then I flipped it online.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, if he's come this far, I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: want Jay to win. I completely abandoned the whole scena.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: If it was Sena and he drew, you know, okay,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 10: s Drew Sea can eliminate Jay Uzo, right, I don't think.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 12: Well thee rightly, he probably could have been.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: You know, it has just been another case of Jay
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: getting close to the brass ring but not being able
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: to fully grab it.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: I did like the I think jay Uzo was kind
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 10: of like an air apparent to John Cena in a way.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 10: I think he's kind of like over with the kids,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: for lack of a better word. So I think he
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 10: I think he's probably gonna kind of take Maybe he
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: won't be a superhero and the way John Cena was,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: but uh, I think he might take up the mantle
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: as you.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Know, the guy that the guy that's as the guy
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: that's super popular as fuck. But eventually some fan, a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: segment of the fan base gets tired of him and
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: then he has that split popularity.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah right, and yeah, yeah, no, honestly I could see
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 10: that happen. Yeah, I couldn't find the words. You got it, Yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 10: you nailed it.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah I could dever, and then to a certain state,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: you could argue that's kind of happened a little bit already,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: given that there are some people out there salty about
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: jay Uzo winning the Rumble, which to me makes no
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: fucking sense.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: I think that's just a loud minority.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: I agree very much, so probably is. And these are
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: people who are I think they people who are mad
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: at jay winning are the ones who were die hard
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: on seeing Punk winning, or die hard on John Cena winning,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: almost like the almost like the Bernie Bros.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 12: They're the punk bros. And the scene of bros.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, I I thought it was like like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: Star Wars fans who say, oh, we want something new,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 10: something different than they give them last Jedi, which is
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: totally different than no, we don't want that, you know,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: or segment of the fan base did that anyway. So
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: it's like here, oh, Roy rum was always so predictable.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 10: We always it was gonna win. Okay, here's somebody who
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 10: didn't see coming. Oh no, we didn't mean that, right.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fans just don't know what the hell they want.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 12: But aside from jay Uso winning.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: There's the other moments that stood out was uh, Joe
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Hendry coming out to a very nice strong pop from
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: the audience when his music hit, and him having a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: decent showing in the ring where he was whooping up
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: on who was it? Uh?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: Was it the miss he gave the miss that his
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: uh his choke slam move.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it was somebody who's whooping up on.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: And then over in the corner it's Shamous washing and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: getting into it and starting to clap, and then fucking
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Jacob Fotu comes in and just throws out Joe Hendry
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: and they hear Shame. It's like, what are you doing, Joanna?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: Why so angry? Like I fucking loved that moment right
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: there that Like, I like that enough that I kind
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: of want to see a Joe Hendry and Shame his
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: team up. I just want to see them have like
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: a little almost like a buddy cop a bit for
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: a while. Shame is just like, I like you, I'm
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: gonna hang out with you for a while.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: Seamus is funding the tag team. Man, I remember the bar.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: They were great him in Tzarrow.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think another standout moment from the Rumble was
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: the death of I show Speed at the end of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: the hands of bron Breaker. Jesus Christ, he's spared the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: living fuck out of him.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I I specifically said no influence, there's
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: no McAfee. Uh, but I think they used him in
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: a way, whatever the hell's name is I am Fast
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: or something. They used him in a way that didn't
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: really take away from anything. I don't think.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: And they got, however, many fucking million eyeballs that never
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: would have gotten otherwise if this guy hadn't been involved somehow.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, like his he's gotten more social media
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: impressions with his moment than every other woman from the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Rumble combined.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, it's not like they had him eliminated.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 10: People are really doing much of anything. So uh but
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: to album might want to look for another line of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: work if all it takes is a forearm to cold.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: Well, technically, Speed did get an elimination. He helped eliminate
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Otis along with bron Breaker. That's when he did the flip,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: and then bron Breaker proceeded to kill him and throw
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: him outside the Otis, who then proceeded to kill him
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: again by flipping him, tossing him over the announcement.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 12: Charles injury on his leg.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 13: It was nice because a couple of years ago, there was,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 13: you know, Otis saving Andy Rose in the you know
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 13: the rumble, like saving him you know, uh even been
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 13: like a spot with Chad Gable trying to get saved
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 13: by Otis a couple of years ago. But like, now
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 13: straight up catches him, could have saved him, just tosses
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 13: him and was like, oh, he's saved up and now
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 13: you're eliminated.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 10: That's a good thing he caught it because do you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: see Stroman totally dropped Finn.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 13: Hes h. Dude, I can't believe how many people they
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 13: like Jacob Fat like eliminate. You know, he got he
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 13: got Ray, he got Chad Gable out. Yeah, yeah, lide
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 13: a couple of motherfuckers.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: As he rightfully should have. If he's gonna be that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: strong guy, if he's gonna be that that that beast
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: that they have. What I don't agree with is fucking
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: having Braun Strowman to eliminate him.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like about the.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: Same dude just got decimated a week ago on Saturday
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Night Main Event. Like the only standout moment from that
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: entire show left this Man a bloody mess in the ring,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: and then one week later he's like, yep, I'm back,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: get your ass out the rumble.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 10: I think they're gonna have another match, and I kick
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: the dogs not out of him again, and that's just like,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: that's that's that's uh Strowman winning a third match in
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: that series without having to do it.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: I think, I guess, but I don't know.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like bron Stroman should have should have sold
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: that beat down he got from Foto a little bit longer.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: But then I guess that's part of his monster character, like, yeah,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: you can do all this craft to me and I'll
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: just keep coming right back the monster or whatever.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 13: Somebody didn't sell when fucking bron Breakers speared, Roman, Roman
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 13: got right the fuck up and threw them out.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 12: Roman motherfucking rings.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 13: That's why eliminated Shaman Joe Hendury bron Breaker. Ah. I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 13: did enjoy the bron Roman reign staredown because I was like, oh,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 13: bron breaking Roman reigns. I'd like to see that match.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 10: Was that said they have some history, Yeah.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 13: I was like, I want to see that these guys
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 13: and Spiritsch other knock each other the funk out.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 10: AJ Styles came back. Styles came back, and he went
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: to a theme song that everybody recognized.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: Exactly as soon as you heard the play. Hey AJ Styles.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah, he will go back to that new music he had,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 13: So I like that he went back to his old
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 13: classic music.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 10: But when he went out, Uh, they were saying he
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 10: had a list Frank injury, which is like really bad.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 10: It's like a it's like a tiny little bone in
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 10: your foot forever to heal. If it ever does, it
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 10: ruins careers of people. I'm he was probably legitimately injured somehow,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 10: but he didn't have that because I don't think he'd
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: be unless he's super human or something. I don't think
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 10: he could be possibly be back this soon if he
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 10: actually had that injury.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: Right, it's only been what three four months? A lot
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: of people's careers, it's only been like what three or
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: four months that he was out.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 13: Yeah, what a great way to start the rubble. By
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 13: the way, having Penta and Bray. You know, last year
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 13: we had Jay and Jimmy and we talked about this
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 13: year who would be good to be, you know, first
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 13: and second entrant. And I think it's pretty good having
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 13: those two. I mean technically he should have ended right
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 13: away considering Pences both of his feet touched. But other
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 13: than that, like I was like, oh, this is maybe
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 13: a match we probably won't get to see, but this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 13: is the only place we need to see a little
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 13: bit of it.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 10: So the whole thing was really laid out really well.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 10: I thought, uh, you know, and then after that, after
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: you get the two Lucidois, and who do you have
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: at number three, the guy who has having issues with Lucidois,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 10: So that that just made a lot of sense, you know,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: it seemed it was very logical step by You know,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 10: they did a great job of getting guys that are
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: our feuding or are about to be feuding, or have
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: some kind of history. They did a great job of
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 10: getting those guys in the ring together without making it
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 10: seem super forced, which I think can happen easily like this.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they did good too by bringing out
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: the heavy hitters in the middle of the match as
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: opposed to saving them all for the end. Because yeah,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Roman reigns was number sixteen, right after Joe Hendry, and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Roman has reached the status where he is one of
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: the few people that can stop me dead in my tracks.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Because he came out pretty much right as right as
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: a Shamus and Jacob Fox were having their moment.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 12: There's a little stare down moment.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: And I was about to comment on something in the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: discord about that moment because it was funny as hell
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: to me, and I think I literally typed the s
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: in Shamous and Roman's music hit. I stopped dead at
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: my tracks and turned right back around as soon as
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: you were the yeah.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: Well he has been in a rumble in five years
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: or four years or whatever.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 13: Yeah, because he didn't need to be.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 13: You know. You know what's funny is when we talked
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 13: about I never thought we would ever see the teen
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 13: A heavyweight title on a WWE show. Never thought we would,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 13: and we we we saw it. So I was pretty
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 13: sure I was shocked when Joe Henry came out, because,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 13: oh ship, they're doing it. They're bringing out the ten
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 13: A world champion.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 10: Sad Well, we've seen their women's belt a couple of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 10: times on a couple of different people.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I mean last year when a partnership, right, Yeah,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: last year when Jordan.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 12: Grace was in the rumble.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: She was the TNA women's champion at the time, and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: she came with the belt. I think Mickey James came
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: in a few Well yeah.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so we've had the women's but I meant like,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 13: you know, I didn't never thought we'd have the men's.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: But changes, changes made women's champion this year.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 13: I don't know the point where we had I thought
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 13: was great having seen a come out and then Punk
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 13: come out and then Rollins and they were kind of
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 13: waiting for each other to come out. It reminded me
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 13: of you know, like you're playing two K with your
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 13: friends and you're playing the rod Rumble and you guys
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 13: are all coming out, and you guys are all like,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 13: all right, just stand there. We'll wait until we're all
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 13: out and then we'll duke it out.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 13: But I had I saw a picture kind of kind
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 13: of made me think, is a picture of you know,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 13: the three of them standing there, and there was also
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 13: a picture of from the first Avengers movie Captain America,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 13: Iron Man Thor standing there, and it's this like same vibes,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 13: different energy or something like that.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 12: It's like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 13: Any one of these guys could win it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, because what did you just start with?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Roman and Sina were staring each other down, and then
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Punk's music hit, and then there's the three of them
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: staring each other down and then Seth's Seth's music hit
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: and he just immediately does it, immediately goes for.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 13: These guys are fighting during the match, These guys are
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 13: fighting after the match. You know, these guys hate each other.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 13: I love it. I love it. I love it. I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 13: love it. What a damn shame? How uh what's his name?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 13: Drew McIntyre got taken out? You know, I heard it
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 13: was botched because he bumped into l A. Knight and
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 13: the time he was done wrong. I guess there's just
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 13: too many people in that ring.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, supposedly, Well, not so much that it was
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: too many people. It's been an ongoing, I guess, story
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: or gradual trickle of information coming out about that that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: supposedly Damian Priest was not Damien. Drew was pissed as
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: hell when he left mass in that. You know, somebody
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: just had to get their spots and YadA YadA left
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: in a huff before the thing was over. Then it
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: came out about who he was mad at rumor was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Logan Paul at first turns out apparently it was not
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: Logan Paul. In fact, it was La Night that he
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: may have been upset at because him and Priest were
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: supposed to Obviously, Priests was supposed to eliminate him to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: set up their few going into WrestleMania, but I guess
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: La Knight was taking too long with his spots, so
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: the timing was thrown off, and when the Priest Drew
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: spot was supposed to happen, I guess in isolation so
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: that it would gather, it would have the attention of everybody.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: But because the timing was off with La Knight and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: his stuff, him and Logan Paul were having their moments
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: at the same time that Priest and Drew were having
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: their spots, so it overshadowed their moment and took away
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: from it, because yeah, if you're watching it in real time,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: the priest eliminating Drew thing just kind of happens without
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: much set up to it at all, or without much
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: attention on it, because yeah, because La Knight and Logan
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: are having their featured moment. So I think he's a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: bit of an overreaction, but I kind of understand why
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: he would be upset. But again, we still got but
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: almost two months to media.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 12: You got time to build it up. Yeah, you got time.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: I think Drew may have overreact did a bit, but
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: it seems Tom I understand being upset.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 13: Well.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: I and truth that does kind of have a history
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: of getting having throwing a tantrum and storming out of building.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 10: So again, who knows if any of this is you know,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: who knows? What's part of the part of the allure
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 10: of the whole business is what's really true? What's not?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 10: And it's just a story and what isn't and uh
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 10: you know.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, but probably which and if anything is this
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: rumble has taught us anything? It's take everything from Dirty's
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: with a grain of salt.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 10: Right. Here's here's a complaint I have about the just
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 10: the event as a whole. They need to stop saying
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 10: that the winner get will go on the winner of
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 10: the Royal Rumble will go on to main event WrestleMania,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 10: because that almost never happens. And they need to say
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 10: something like gets a title match for the champion of
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 10: their tuodaing and that Wrestlemandia, because that's more like does
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 10: that do you think Jay who was closing the show
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 10: either night? We assume it's Gunter.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: I guess well, depending on who he decides to face.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: I think there's an argument that could be made for that,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: which I guess we could sure.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so that kind of feeds in.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: I guess to where we can go next with this
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: conversation is now that Jay is the winner, who should
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: he face. This obvious choice would seemingly be based upon
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: what baseball on what's already happened, is that he should
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: face Gunter at Mandia because he had the close match.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: He had the promo where he came out afterwards and said,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: you know I can beat him, I could beat him,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: and then Gunter just cut this vicious promo on him
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Monday somebody he'll beat him like a dog, like a
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: diseased animal, and all this stuff, and said basically said,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: in short, bitch, don't even think about challenging me. Will
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: fuck you up. What you would seem to feed into
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: that more. But there's still Cody out there. There's still
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: the possibility of him choosing to face Cody, and you
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: could make a pretty compelling argument for Jay choosing Cody
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: instead of Gunter. I think if, on the one hand,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: if there's any plans or any hope for turning Cody,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: heel an opponent like Jay usso would be a prime
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: candidate to help facilitate that, given how popular and how
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: over Jay is right now, if Cody comes across as
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: the arrogant champion who thinks like similar to how Gunster is,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: that Jay ain't good enough to face him, or that
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: you know, Jay isn't ready and that like you know,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: almost plays like the cocky type friend thing like it's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: nice you want to face me, but no, no, no,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: stay over there with Gunter. That could cause fans to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: turn a bit on Cody. That could be the planning
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: of the seeds of a Cody Hill turn. Or if
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: Jay were to face him and defeat him and then
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: Cody takes that the wrong way and does it and
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: attacks him afterwards, that could be the facilitating factor. There's
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: also the history that they have with each other, from
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: Cody's time feuding with the Bloodline when he was trying
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: to chase the title, to Jay leaving the Bloodline and them.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: His first step in solidifying himself outside away from his
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: brother was winning the tag titles with Cody, So they
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: have very much history with each other. I think, honestly,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: if I had to pick say who Jay should face
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: I would think I kind of leaned more towards he
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: should face Cody. Right now, I'm kind of leaning a
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: bit in that direction, and they let that be a
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: main event, that would be a hell of a main event,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: I think to close out, I think that could Actually
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: some people might be down on actual they think if
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: the names aren't big enough, But no, I think that
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: could be an incredible match between them two and if
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: Jay is the one to de throne Cody as champion,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: almost not of really doing it, but kind of sort
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: of avenging Roman. You know, Cody is the one who
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: ended Romans reign. J comes back and ends Cody's rain.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of meat. I think there's a lot
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: of meat on the bone there for that match. Again,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: I kind of lean that way. What are your thoughts, Wayne.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, man, I'm on the opposite side
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 13: when j One, I was like, why I just when
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 13: they tell me main event jay Uso, I just don't
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 13: think he's main event jay us Ah. I don't think
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 13: he's even gonna be in the main event at WrestleMania.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 13: I think he's gonna be in the opening of WrestleMania.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 13: I just don't think Jay's there, man, Like I when
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 13: I hear his promos, I don't believe it. You know what,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 13: what's your favorite ja Uso match? Namely, like three of
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 13: your favorite ja Uso matches singles? You know, like I
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 13: can't think of any I don't I. I just don't
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 13: think the timing was right this year, Like they could
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 13: have done it right if they were to shock us,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 13: I guess twice this year. Maybe they should have had
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 13: who was the last one in the women's Roxanne before Charlotte,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 13: Having somebody like Roxanne and Jay win that would have yeah,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 13: definitely thrown us both off. I just don't think Jay
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 13: was the right pick, man, Like, uh, everything was leading
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 13: to we could that had you know, all the reasons
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 13: we're leading to why Johnson is to win this, right,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 13: all the reasons we're leading to why Sampunk could win this,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 13: and then you had so many other like Doyle said,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 13: like ten other people, but like Jay was not even
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 13: in my top like five, like there's I just not
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 13: think he was in that position. I would have been
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 13: okay with Logan Paul winning it over Jay Uso. Just
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 13: the factor, just because of the entertainment factor, because now
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 13: we have to because literally when I saw Jay win,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 13: I immediately was like, how are we doing this? Like,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 13: how are we spinning this?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 12: Like Logan Paul.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Logan, I would have.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 13: Been more fucking entertainment because you know what.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 12: Logan Gunther said.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 13: It unroll like he doesn't even want to face Jay
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 13: us because it would just tain his legacy, you know.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 13: I mean, like EVENU had me convinced though. It's just
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 13: like you're right though, man, like are we really trying
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 13: to believe that Jay WhoSay is really gonna go over?
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 13: He's been chasing the world title they.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 10: Got, they have a couple of months. I think if
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 10: they do Jay Gunther, I think Jay needs some big
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 10: fucking wins.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 13: He does, he needs a big one style. He's been
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 13: Intercontinental champion for like a handful of fucking days.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: Right, It's not like he ain't got a dub over
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Drew McIntyre.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I mean. He needs to go. He
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 10: needs to beat Drew McIntyre. He needs to to Yeah,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 10: you need.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you need to be brought up.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 10: He needs he needs to beat a couple of people
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 10: like that on his way to gun through.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: I think, and we.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 13: Don't have much time, and you know if he if
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 13: that's where he's going to gun therore, but like to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 13: have to go and now to turn like Cody Heel
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 13: because his his his entrance is over, his entrance is over.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Nobody says you have Nobody says you have to turn
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: Cody Hill going into the match. It could be a
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: total baby face baby face match.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 13: But I just don't that's not what I don't. I
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 13: don't know, man, I just feel like you just wanted.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 10: Well, I think h.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 13: Go ahead, Doyle.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 10: I think we all had kind of booked seen it
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 10: into a title match at WrestleMania, but that's going to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 10: now require him to win the elimination chamber. If we're
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 10: going to do that, I do think they are going
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 10: to do a scena going for the record story, but
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 10: I think they have all year to do that. So
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: I'm kinda I'm I now I'm out on Tena getting
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 10: a title match at WrestleMania. Here is my wild speculation here.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 10: All right, So you got Rowlins, Roman and Punk all
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 10: fighting on the way out of on the way out
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: of the Royal wormblafter being eliminated, right, ye, And we've
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 10: seen rumbles before that ended in Shenanigans. You know, think
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 10: Brett and Luke are both going out at the same time,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 10: both being declared the winner. We've never seen anything like
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 10: that in an elimination chamber. We've not seen a shenanigany finish, right,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 10: So what if the chamber match ends with Seth and
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 10: Roman somehow pinning each other and both being declared the
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 10: winner or whatever, and then Punk uses his favorite with
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 10: Paul Hammon and get himself in that match, and then
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 10: you get a four way match for Cody's title at Mania,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 10: and that's the I think that solves a lot of problems.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of people that need to
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 10: be in a big match at Mania. I think this
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 10: solves what Punk's favor is and it really sets up
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: like who the fun wins.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 12: That we still have that Yeah, that.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: Which is what he wants. I didn't even know who
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 10: I would think it's gonna wouldn't even know who to
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 10: speculate would be winning that match.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 13: That's kind of like knocking like four birds off of
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 13: one stone trying to get.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot that almost screams over booked man,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: that would be. That would be a lot shove all
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: four of those guys in the one match.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 13: I still want to know what the the Rock whispered
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 13: the Cody and gave him.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 10: We know what he whispered, we don't know what he
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 10: what he gave him though, Yeah.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 13: M JFS ring that's what it was.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean there's all kinds of stuff we've
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: never We never found out who raised the the title
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 10: on Stone Call, and we never found out who was
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 10: behind GTV. You know, there are some lingering mysteries. We
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 10: may never find out what the Rock handed Cody.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 13: But now you got me thinking though about that. Like
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 13: you said, Punk still has that favor from him and man,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 13: and like what could it be? You know, did does
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 13: does Roman get a title shot you know, against Cody somehow?
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 13: I mean, And and you know, Punk's like, no, I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 13: want the title shot. I want the favor, and he's
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 13: gonna honor and give me that title shot. It's the
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 13: favor that I asked. I don't know it could be.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think, honestly, I don't think any of them
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: are gonna get a shot at Cody. So so let's
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: play it out. Like suppose Johnson had won the Rumble. Huh,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: what does a John Cena Cody Rose match look.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 10: Like, Yeah, I mean, John c gonna beat Cody Road.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: Do you have the babyface and his farewell tour facing
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: the face of the company, baby Face, Like, where's the
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: heat come from? Where's the where's the tension come from?
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: So it doesn't it wouldn't seem to make much sense
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: for John Cena to challenge Cody because there's not much
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: of a they're there for that match. So then does
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: he go after Gunter and challenge Gunster for the title,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: And now you have, okay, Babyface Sena versus you know,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: top heel Gunter and does super Sena return and just
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: squashed Gunter at Mania? That wouldn't seem to do bode
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: well for Gunster. Gunter get the rub off of defeating
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: John Cena at Mania, Okay, but that rub honestly don't
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: rub like it used to.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 12: Look at what it did for uh Solo.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: So as much as it kind of I think we
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: just kind of convinced ourselves of it happening because it's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: the scene of farewell Tour without really thinking about the
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: aftermath of him actually winning the Rumble and how that
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: would play out in WrestleMania.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I still think they're gonna do it.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 10: John Cena goes for the title storyline.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 12: Sure, sure, that's definitely gonna happen.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's why do it now, They'll do it later.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just yeah, I just don't know that WrestleMania
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: is the was the time to pull that trigger? Like
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: you said, Yeah, we have all year, and that could
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: be probably the running storyline of him for the year
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: is him continuously trying to get that final that final title,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: which it might not happen to the Fall, yeah, or
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: maybe maybe SummerSlam, but it may be something that doesn't
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: happen to the Fall, and maybe he wins it at
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: whatever the first uh whatever, the first pla after SummerSlam
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: is and maybe he gets it from there and holds it,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: maybe through Survivor Series where he finally loses it as
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: Survivor Series to somebody, and then ol.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't mind he wins it on his last night
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 10: in the company and he retires as champion and then
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 10: they have a tournament to the Crown of New Champions.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 12: Sure, yeah they could. That wouldn't be that.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 10: If he never defends it, he just wins it and
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 10: that's it. I'm done.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got my seventeen. Yeah, uh, I don't know
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: if Sena would do that. He seems more like the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: kind of go out on your back type of guy
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: Fardo that he would he would produce his final match
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: to get somebody else over or maybe go out on
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: a final win in something relatively meaningless or just like
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: a showcase match, like hey, you're my favorite opponent. Like
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I could see like John Cena versus Randy
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: Orton being like the final match on Raw for twenty
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: twenty five, and that being like the main event they
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: giving him like the whole last half hour of the
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: show or something like that.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure that that Raw emanates from the Boston guy.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: Right, and we get seen it and it'll probably built
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: up John Cena's last match as the main event, and
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: that's how it goes out, and that's how we close
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: out twenty twenty five with Sena farewell.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 12: I can very much see.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: That that that I could see that, but yeah, back back,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: rewinding back to now. Yeah, I don't know where the again,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: as good as it sounds, and I'll pay I think
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: I even picked Seena to win the Rumble without really
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: thinking about the aftermath and what would be next afterwards.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 12: So at least.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Now with Jay there, there's they're there for either option
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: for him to choose this champion. And then now we
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: have openings or possibilities for the elimination chamber, where, yeah,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: all these guys are gonna vibe for seemingly the right
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: to face Cody. I guess assuming that they play it
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: safe and have Jay challenged Gunter, and then all the
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: big names were fighting for the opportunity to challenge Cody.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know that Roman or Punk or Seth are
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: gonna win that match between the three. I guess Punk
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: would be the odds on favorite. I could see those
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: three easily probably maybe being the last three in that match.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: But the word rumor is that those three may be
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: slaved to face each other in a triple threat match
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: in Mania, which if that plays out, then that takes
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: all three of them out of the equation and for
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: facing Cody. So then who's left to face Cody at Mania?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: If you take the three biggest names out and put
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: them in a match with each other, is it Drew
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: versus Cody? Does that scream WrestleMania Caliber really like that?
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: Do we get a surprise? Randy Orton turned does he
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: did we finally pull the trigger on that now going in, Maniam,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: they could possibility.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 10: I think I think that's a media match.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: There's definitely a media match if it happens.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Talu had Uh, you know, two wrestlers who I
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 13: thought were gonna be there, definitely thought they were gonna
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 13: be there and weren't there. Rah Becky Lynch and Randy Orton.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 13: Two wrestlers who I was like, hell bat like, yeah,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 13: of course they're gonna be there didn't show up And
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 13: I was like, did we did okay without them? Mm hmm, Yeah,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 13: I mean we were you know, we were missing a
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 13: couple of people. We're missing Solo. You know a lot
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 13: of people from injuries. Dakota Kai was out, Oscar was out,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 13: Kyrie Bronson Reid was out. Charlotte's ass wasn't.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 10: There, you know, I mean there was a time when, uh,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 10: that many injuries means the Brooklyn Brawler, isn't you know?
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 10: You're right though, in this day and age, we don't
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 10: you don't even miss him. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy exactly.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely packed and yeah, because I don't I don't
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: think Becky Lynch crossed my mind once that entire show, right,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: especially not during the rubble. Not at one point did
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: I think Becky Lynch nothing.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 13: I thought maybe towards the end, but then I kept
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 13: thinking about who was left. I was like, oh, you
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 13: know what, like I don't think they have room for
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 13: Becky Lynch this year, okay, And I was content with that, Like,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 13: sometimes we just don't need you don't need to bring
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 13: out your top you know what I mean, like your
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 13: top tier every show, like you we don't, Like maybe
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 13: she was ready to come back, and like, oh yeah
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 13: she could come back, but it's like, you're just not needed, so.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 12: Yeah we can. We can save that. We don't need
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 12: to blow our whole wide in.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 13: This match exactly because then exactly because then after that
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 13: it would have been like, Okay, what's next for Becky's Yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 13: what's left exactly? So if they don't need her till
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 13: after Mania, find me I I Becky's one of those
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 13: people who I miss the more she's gone. You know,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 13: clearly Arltte was not that way with fans.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: Charlotte Flair has gone.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 13: For a year and you know, oh my god, I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 13: mean she I can see why Andrade left her, Like
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 13: I love Charlotte as an ing ring competitor. You know,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 13: I thought Charlotte was attracted back in her NXT days,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 13: and then as she went, she she you know, she
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 13: had like the three faces of folly almost you know,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 13: she she's she's looked like she's a whole new competitor.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 13: When she ended the rumble, uh, where did her ass go?
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 13: Because she had an ass?
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 12: Had she did?
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 13: She did? Dude? Did? That's the thing did? Because that
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 13: was one of most shocking things where I was like, I
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 13: was like, Okay, Charlotte's coming out, is her ass coming
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 13: out behind her? Because I don't see it, Like, dude, Dre,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 13: you had me dying with your fucking post. Dude, you're
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 13: like the only woman who could wear a thong loose.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 13: I was fucking dying, fucking die when I read that
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 13: ship because her outfit looked like, you know, like a thong.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 13: I was like, oh man, she had an ass, you'd
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 13: be able to fill that fucking outfit out.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 19: But yeah, yeah, like.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 12: The back of it was supposed to be a thong.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: But that ship had wrinkles and I'm like, hold up,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: oh my.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 13: God, it's flapping in the wind. Trist trash looked great though,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 13: for of course, like you know, breaking news, trist still
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 13: looks fucking gorgeous as ever. Uh you know, I think,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 13: you know, Nikki Bella also looks great still. I wish
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 13: I thought I didn't know she was like medically clear
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 13: to even wrestle period.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 10: So about her trying to come back for a while.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and apparently she's like backbacks like she's in the fold,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: I guess full time.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 13: Yeah, no, I mean, you know, it's funny. A few
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 13: years ago she kind of was sour on the company,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 13: you know. Ah, but now you're divorced and you need
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 13: some you need some work. Well, your sister's over. She's
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 13: still over in a w I don't know she over
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 13: there with Brian Danielson at all.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 10: I don't believe. I think they might. I think she
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 10: may have been showing in the crowd or something, but
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 10: she's not. She was never an on screen character.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 4: Yea.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 13: So I mean, as far as I know, for me,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 13: this rumble overall was.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 10: Just really I thought this was top five men's rumbles
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 10: of all time. That's awesome.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I thought this was the match.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I don't say I think this was a
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: very well booked and well executed rumble.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 12: It started off.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: With the high flyers and the showcases of the guys.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: Let them go out there and bring the energy real
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: fast from the jump with with their moves, and let
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: them cook and showcase themselves. And then you started getting
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: into some of the bigger guys like the the Otis
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: and the bron and the powerhouses, and let them do
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: their thing. And then right towards the middle, which is
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: normally where you would find the lull of the match
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: where things just kind of drag on and you're like,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: let's get through this bullshits. We can get to the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: big names in the twenties, something that you know, somebody
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: like Vince might have done in the past. Instead the
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: middle of the matches when they started bringing in the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: heavy hitters, the big names, starting with you know, the
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: surprise entrance of Joe Hendry, followed by Roman, then Drew,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: and then you know a little while later you get
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: a returning aj Styles and then you get the trifecta
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: of seeing up Punkins Seth.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 12: I thought it was very well executed.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: I think the really only weak part is the fact
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: was there number thirty choices in both the men and
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: women's matches of Nikki Bella and Logan Paul. That was
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: kind of a whimpers compared to some of the earlier entrances.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 12: And then the final job.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 13: Because it's like this guy, we all hate this fucking.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 12: And get Yeah it's screen privilege.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah right, I love it.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 10: Well I'm supposed to.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and I still say that's a faction waiting to happen.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: In w w E.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you know what, we got no.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: Charlotte Flair, Logan Paul, no members. I could even throw
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: Tiffany Stratton in there, except she's probably gonna be for
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: Schelah Flair.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 12: The faction just called privilege.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 13: No, there was no NXT guys in the men's rumble.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 13: We had one celebrity, no no announcers. We just had
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 13: one celebrity, one teen a wrestler that was it, and
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 13: one legend or are you gonna say John Cena unaffiliated,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 13: not signing a roster, But so yeah, I guess you're right.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 13: Compared to other years where like Doyle say, where we
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 13: have like you know, commentators going in the ring and
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 13: celebrities and just fillers because we didn't have the roster
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 13: because of injuries and we had tons of NXT people
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 13: coming through, but not even ant champion mm hmmm.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: And a genuine surprise finish in a match where there
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: were so many possible winners that had legit shots at
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: winning and they would have not been a surprise.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 13: I will say that I was caught off guard. We
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 13: were blinded, I will say, blinded by the star power
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 13: that was in this match. I mean, you had Drew McIntyre,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 13: you know, AJ Style, Siampung Roman, Reigns, Johnson and Seth
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 13: freaking Rollins. You know, you had all this huge star
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 13: power and we're blinded by it, just blinded by it.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 13: And they threw everything at us, and uh, you know,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 13: even the guy we hate the most even threw Dirty
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 13: Dom at twenty six and Logan Paul at thirty like
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 13: close to the end, you know, uh goddamn, Like you're
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 13: right though, it was a genuine surprise.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 10: Even some of the guys that didn't have a snowballs
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 10: chance in hell had a great score, like the like
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 10: Chad Gables running the rumble was fucking amazing, uh with
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 10: with with the Lucha doors and then Otis comes in,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I mean just I thought it was I
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 10: thought it was really really really well done.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there were there were very few people who were
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: in this rumble and didn't have noteworthy moments, Like just
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: to me, just looking through the list, the only names
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: I can see that didn't have noteworthy moments I would
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: say is probably Carmelo Hayes, although he kind of made
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: the most of his seven minutes. You could maybe say
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Jimmy usso didn't have much of a showing, Andrade probably
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: didn't have much of a showing in this rumble, not
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: much of a showing, but you at least remember his
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: moment there. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 13: How about Jake getting Jimmy getting eliminated before Jay even.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: Got in, Yeah, that's kind We didn't get an USO
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: team up at all.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 10: Maybe they purposely want to keep them apart.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, you don't want to go back to that
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: well too often of you know, hey, guys, remember these
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: guys because then you maybe that could take away from
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: either one of their own individual momentum.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's a great point. I had pointed
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 10: it out that they did. I thought that they did
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 10: a good job of getting guys that were feuding in
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 10: there with each other, but not making it seem forced
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 10: and I guess I guess they got the us they
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 10: did maybe did the same thing with people that needed
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 10: to be kept apart.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 13: Yeah, the rumbles, I always think one of the hardest
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 13: matches to do with the year because it's a story
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 13: within a story within stories, and we're building the story,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 13: you know what I mean, Like Doyle's right, We've got
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 13: fews that are going on within the rumble that we continue.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so many moving parts. It's always amazed, amazing to
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 10: me that they're able to pull this off and get
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 10: we got. I mean, yeah, they fox stuff up sometimes.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 18: But like so rarely I feel like, like, yeah, you
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 18: guys were talking about the ramp, how long the ramp is.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 13: And the thing is is when you come out, you
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 13: had to get there and make your spots before that
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 13: next person got out. So it's like, yeah, enjoy your
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 13: moment in the sun with your entrance, right, but oh fuck,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 13: I gotta start jogging because look how far away the
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 13: ring is. I gotta get out there and make this
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 13: spot before for you know, that timer goes off. You
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 13: only have like, you know, two and a half minutes
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 13: or some shit, and uh, you know, unless like your
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 13: spot is something like Charlotte's where you like you just
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 13: walk slow and you take it all in.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: Right, Like your spot is the walks of the rink, right.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 13: But then there's the ones it's like who have to
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 13: like run in immediately. It's like, oh fuck, you know,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 13: fucking the heavier set guys, You're just done. The like
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 13: otis was like fucking dying on that rink.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: You can imagine ultimate worst and then after life looking
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: at that runway, just drooling at the mouth, like.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 12: Where was that when I was there?
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 13: Okay, So I will say it is for us the
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 13: way the dirt sheets are, the way we have access
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 13: to knowing so much at every waking minute as wrestling
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 13: fans and being you know, fucking marks. Oh I'll play
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 13: the button fucking march. I was generally genuinely surprised that
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 13: Javeuson won and we also got every turning Alexa Bliss.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 13: So those were two things that caught me off guard.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 13: And I'd have to say, like during the Vince era,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 13: kind of didn't get a lot of surprises like that
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 13: as much because we kind of Vince was very you know, predictable.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 13: Towards like the end of his run, we were like,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 13: damn we know exactly who's gonna pick, exactly what he's
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 13: gonna do, and that's what we got. And this is
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 13: I believe now that Russell Maania forty has passed. After
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 13: Russell Mania forty, everything from there on out has Triple
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 13: H's hands on it. So this truly feels like this
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 13: is Triple H's first real Rumble.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: So sure, I.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 13: Mean we got let we I can't say, we can't
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 13: complain we did. Yes, we got a we got a
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 13: former winner, a person who probably doesn't need it to
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 13: win it, right, But then we also got a new
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 13: superstar winning it, which we haven't gotten in a while.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 13: And there was a time where that's always what we got.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 13: We were always were supposed to get this, the new
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 13: blood coming up winning the Rumble, you know, and and
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 13: we haven't gotten that in a long time, and it
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 13: was always the I don't know, as a as a kid,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 13: I always believe, like, oh, you you know, you're a
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 13: professional wrestler. You start out in the tag team division, right,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 13: That's how you get your foot in the door, and
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 13: then you break away from that tag team you get
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 13: your own singles title. Right, what's the singles title inter Continental? Right,
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 13: that's your way up. After you get that IC, then
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 13: you get the heavyweight title. And that is kind of
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 13: how they've been building j use of the old.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 10: Heart describing hard Yeah, well, I'm describing a.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 13: Bunch of wrestlers like build up that Shawn Michaels, Yeah,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 13: the old school I always saw that was the old
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 13: school route of building a main event star. I always
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 13: thought from ground up, from foundation up. There's very few
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 13: that we would get that would come into the company
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 13: and immediately be put fast tracked like brock Lessner. Brock
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 13: Lessner didn't win no icy title, no tag team titles.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 13: He was fast track directly to the w W Championship.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 13: But I like the the long, slow career build, and
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 13: that's kind of what jay Uso has had. Uh I
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 13: just you know, I prove me wrong, prove me wrong.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 13: You have until now until Mania to prove me wrong,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 13: because what if you know, I you guys, what if
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 13: you guys had I'm not saying jay Usa, but another
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 13: wrestler that got put in that position. You just don't
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 13: believe that he's ready for it. And you bought WrestleMania tickets.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 12: Already, so you special still going.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 13: But like, is this the main event that you want,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 13: that you want, like I was happy, like I was,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 13: I was psyched for our matches at Mania this year
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 13: or last year when we went, you know, like I
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 13: knew what I was getting into. We all knew a
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 13: year in advance what we were getting into. You know,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 13: very similar to people who I'm sure when they were like,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 13: you know, Johnston and The Rock said they were going
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 13: to face each other one year from now the second
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 13: tickets went on sale, Like oh yeah, I'm fucking seeing that, Like, yeah,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 13: but this, I don't know, there's I'm just maybe it's
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 13: a negativity I read. I'm letting it get under my
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 13: skin and trying to convince me, you know, like I'm
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 13: just reading it everywhere. People are just not happy with this. Uh.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 13: I Like Dre, I think you're right though people wanted
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 13: the Sina route, and and then Doyle, I think you're
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 13: also right. Uh, maybe he will just get that title.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 13: It's just not not here. It's not here. They're gonna
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 13: do that chase for that seventeenth world title run, but
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 13: it's just not here. Through the rumble, it's given to
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 13: a new fresh blood, new guy, new upcoming guy who's
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 13: never won the rumble. They're doing it right, They're doing
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 13: it old school.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 12: I feel like, yeah, I think you can.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: I think you can look at the crowd reactions post
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 4: rumble as a pretty good gauge of.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 12: Where it's at.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 4: I think as far as ship plays in his booking,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: I think he nailed one rumble and I think he
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: miscalculated on the other. And I think fan reaction is
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 4: kind of reflecting that, not the online reaction, but the
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: fan reaction actually at the show. I think the people
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: who are mad at Jay are again the people who
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: were just dead set on Punk or Sena and wanting
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: to see them win. But the fan reaction in the
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: arena says, we are here with Ja, we riding with J,
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 4: we rock with J, and they are very much happy
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: that Jay won that rumble, Whereas on the other side
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: with Charlotte, yes there's some online disdain towards her win,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 4: but it's also reflected in the audience reaction. Fans didn't
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: necessarily not want to see her return, but they did
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 4: not want to see her return and immediately be forced
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 4: right into the title scene. They wanted to see her
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: come back and see her chase again, see her work
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: her way back up, not just be for all intentsive
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: purposes handed the main event scene. Again, as I said before, privilege,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: I think people are rejecting the privilege that Charlotte is
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 4: being presented with of I'm back and immediately world title scene.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 12: Think about it last.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 4: Time she returned, when she was last year, a year
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 4: before she came on SmackDown and literally won the title
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 4: that same night.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 12: And I think that's just.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 4: In this era where we had to see Cody finish
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: his story over the course of two years, where we've
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 4: seen Jay Usso work his way up to a main
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 4: event status from having been a tag team wrestler, where
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 4: we're seeing right now Eo Sky organically win the fans
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 4: over through her d ring work. Where we saw Bianca
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 4: Belair get the title, lose it, and then spend the
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 4: next year building her way back up to regaining the title.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: Where we're seeing all these people build themselves up, where
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 4: we're seeing that next generation and current generation of stars
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: being built up and working their way up and winning
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: the fans over organically, where we've seen Bailey be put
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 4: in years of work as a heel to finally answer
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: her appreciation phase. Now where fans of are seeing what
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 4: she's done and now recognizing that and giving her her
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 4: props for that. To see somebody like Charlotte Flair just
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 4: pop up and then just yep, I'm here and thirty
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 4: minutes later and now I'm challenging for the world title.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 4: That's not gonna sit right with fans. It rubs fans
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 4: the wrong way. If they could have done it may
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 4: have been much better. Had she come up short this
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 4: time and maybe had to go win it in the
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: elimination chamber match. Then I think fans maybe may have
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: sup taken to it a little bit better, or she
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: just came up short in both and then just really
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 4: had to work throughout the proven that she's still that person,
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 4: that she's still that top person, and having to go
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 4: through the women's roster and get back to the top
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: to maybe challenge at Summer Slammer or something like that.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: Fans may have responded to that a little bit better,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: but this no, fans are rejecting it. So as far
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 4: as you know where they're at, go by their reaction,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: go by what you're seeing in the arenas. And that's
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: part of the reason why I think Jay can absolutely
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: main event WrestleMania this year because the fans are behind them.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 4: The fans support him. The fans want to see him
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 4: a sin. They want to see him take that next step. Now,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 4: at that point, it's still on him. It's still on
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: him to prove it. You know, I've still as much
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 4: as I've been rocking with Jay and been cheering him on,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: I've also been critical and said, yeah, his mic work,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 4: he still needs to step that up. Is in rain work.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 4: He needs to step that up here. I think he
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 4: needs to add some more route woofs. We did see
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: a nice move from him in the rumble. I think
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 4: a little uh Frankenstein or something type move. So it's
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: there in him, he just needs to pull it out
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: in these matches. Yeah.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 10: I really think that people hating on Jay are just
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 10: a vocal minority because the guy's over as fuck. If
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 10: you don't think Wrestlemandi is gonna have seventy five thousand
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 10: people waving their arms, you know, when he's right, you know,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 10: you're out of your mind. And he and he's always uh,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 10: you know, top five merch sales and you know what,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 10: it's so fucking rare, and I mean and part of
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 10: it is because you know, we sit here and we
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 10: talk about this for three hours at a time, you know.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 10: But it's so rare that I'm surprised watching this shit,
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 10: like genuinely surprised, and I.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 4: Was, you know.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 10: Uh, and then the people get pissed off that they're surprised,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 10: you know, it's ridiculous. But uh, you know, I'm not
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 10: the biggest Jay Uso fan of the world, but I'm
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 10: not pissed off anyone the more rumble. I think it's
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 10: great because I did not see this coming.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see WrestleMania Night two closing out with
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: a j Usso defeating Cody Rhodes and becoming w W Champion.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 4: I could see it, and I could see it being
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: a great end to WrestleMania.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 10: Okay, if but if if, if Jay isn't facing Cody
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 10: and WrestleMania were on the card, is Jay come thor.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 12: I could? I could see it closing out Night one.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 10: Over Bianca and Ria or over Charlotte and Riya.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 4: Over Charlotte and Ria. Absolutely, I think Charlotte Ria. I
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe it's just me. I don't know that
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 4: it has the same luster that it did a few
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 4: years ago when Charlotte was the champion and rear was
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 4: the one was the super over baby face challenging to
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: the throwner. I don't know that it carries that same bluster.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 4: I think now it would just be a case of
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 4: people just want to see Ria kick the shit out
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 4: of Charlotte. I don't know that it has the same
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 4: build up and hype of There's no overcoming, there's no
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 4: moments there. It's just a match, right, Whereas Charlotte, I
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 4: mean Charlotte, but Bianca Rea, there's some build up there,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 4: There's there's some hype there.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think I think that's one of the biggest.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: Bullets that have in the chamber, right, and that match
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 4: could make a strong argument for being a main event
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 4: match for Night one. Absolutely, I don't know if you
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 4: could make the argument of it over. And I'm saying
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: this based on the assumption of Jay Usso winning and
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 4: becoming champion. Now, if you were to tell me ahead
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 4: the time that Jay's gonna lose the match, been sure,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: you could put it somewhere in the car. But based
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 4: on going with the assumption that he would win and
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have that big celebratory moment of his music
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 4: playing and the crowd geating its ass off. To me,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 4: that screams closing out the show. That that that to me,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 4: that that says celebrate jay Usso winning, becoming champion, closing
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 4: out the show, everybody yeating their asses off, like what
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 4: we got years ago when Daniel Brian won at Yessselemania
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 4: and the show ended with him doing the yes for
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 4: fucking five minutes straight with the crowd going ape shit.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 13: M Yeah, that's true. I think it's your point, wasn't
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 13: a after all? I guess huh, we showed you showed me.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 13: I think we got three weeks until our next pay
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 13: per view, the Chamber. Oh, we know they have an
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 13: NXT Vengeance Days.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 19: Coming up February fifteenth, so you got that coming up,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 19: and then you have the Elimination Chamber in Toronto that
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 19: will be March first, Toronto.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 13: Kinda and John Cena is on the poster.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's already in the match because he gave
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 4: a a strong post well rumble speech at the presser.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 13: Good call reminding me because I want to add that
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 13: into the I will add that into the show at
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 13: the end here of the episode. Yeah, a good heartful explanation.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 4: Honestly, it almost came off a little here. Is not
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 4: saying that he's gonna be a heel, but some of
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 4: the things he was saying, like, I'm gonna be in
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 4: here not because I deserve it, you gotta because it's
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 4: best for business. Okay, John, little little arrogant, but okay.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 13: Turn heel, John, your last year of your career. Do it, Brink.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 13: We want a new iteration of the nw O.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 4: It's about to say johns the answers, the delimination Chamber,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 4: and the nWo shirt.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 13: They start to starts his own factions with him, Drew
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 13: McIntyre and Kevin Owens.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 4: Fuck, no fans will pop like ship. If he came
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: out with an nWo shirt on n W would be
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: the most over faction fucking w w E since d X.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 13: If he did that ship, that's what's crazy. They still
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 13: sell merch.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 12: But n w O, that ship is basically pop culture
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 12: at this point.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah, we reported last year like they were still like
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 13: high in the fucking sales like top ten.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to be a wrestling fan of
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: rocket nWo shirt. That shit is pop culture that you
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: can put that logo right up there. I'm not saying
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 4: as big, but you can put it right alongside a
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 4: Superman logo, a Batman logo yep, or any other iconic
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 4: logos that everybody just knows.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, that's so true. And if you and
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 13: if you like that, you know that that style, the
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 13: nWo logo style, there is a PCW version of it
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 13: on Pro Wrestling T's dot com. You could purchase.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 10: That.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 13: Said Doyle is anything you want to plug?
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 10: Uh no, just uh see me in the discord or
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 10: like the Facebook page cool dre anything want to plug?
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 4: Instagram, dot com, Slash PCW podcast as always yep, and you.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 13: Can find us also on Twitter and all those links
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 13: will lead right to the website, which leads to discord.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 13: The merch reviews. All that's shenanigans. So uh that's all
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 13: I got. Listen our way, let's just do a countdown?
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 13: Why not?
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 13: Here we go?
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 6: You are the walls dumbest sign up.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 13: I bitch back that day in and day out for
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 13: almost six years.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 16: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 16: best on this microphone in that break and give it
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 16: a commentary.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 6: Nobody can watch me. You are not clearly far time.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 7: It's because the Street Puppet and we watched the Mother your.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: Name, talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 6: Mom Step three sixteen says I just whipped your ass. Well,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 6: let me tell you something, Brother.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 7: Far my.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 11: New day.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: Queen, raised to the top all year, my true man
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 6: Welcome to the Kevin Owen Show.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 13: Leally, he just hasn't been Harry usy.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 11: Because I'm know this.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 10: And I'm e.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 6: Those brought me bye bye.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 20: It's I would like to do something different tonight. I'd
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 20: like to play a little game. It's called who can
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 20: get the headline out fast enough? So I'll be fielding
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 20: no questions and trying to do my best to make
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 20: a statement moving forward. In the twenty three years I've
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 20: been in this business, I know there are diff different
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 20: perspectives about my path, but my truth is I've never
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 20: used my opportunities for a spot that I haven't earned.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 20: Tonight was special for many reasons, but it has begun
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 20: to sink in. And it was my last world rumble
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 20: and at Las Vegas and looking at the sign when
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 20: it was down to two and I had to let
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 20: the energy sink in, I realized that Las Vegas is
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 20: my last WrestleMania. The last time my main evented a
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 20: WrestleMania was twenty thirteen.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: That's a long time ago.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 20: The reason that hasn't been at the forefront in my mind,
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 20: I've been a gimmick. I've been the first match. I've
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 20: been in the middle. I've shared beers with the fans
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 20: because my truth, my perspective is I've always done what's
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 20: best for business. Tonight, standing in that ring, I wanted
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 20: this experience to be a tour of goodwill. I've openly
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 20: admitted I don't know how much I have left in
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 20: the tank, and I just wanted to do something that
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 20: would be nice for all of us to get together
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 20: and have a good time. Unfortunately, tonight it dawned on
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 20: me that that's not best for business. What is best
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 20: for business is my main event, WrestleMania, and what is
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 20: best for business is for the first time, I confidently
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 20: say that I'm going to win a seventeenth championship. So
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 20: I'm announcing tonight that I will compete in the elimination chamber.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 20: And I'm saying that because after twenty three years of
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 20: oil service to this company, I feel that opportunity is earned.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 20: And yes, I'm flying back to Hungary and film a movie.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 20: So what I'm going to do is give my five
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 20: other opponents one month to land in my name and
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 20: bolster their self confidence the best that I can. I
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 20: told Toronto when I announced my retirement that I was
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 20: grateful for the city and I would be back and
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 20: I would be back to kicking. It is time to
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 20: walk that talk and be who I say I am.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 20: I am going to the elimination Chamber to win, and
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 20: I'm going to main event my final appearance in WrestleMania
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 20: and win a seventeen championship because that's what's best for business.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 20: And I say that because it is not best for
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 20: my ego. It is not best for my business. I
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 20: have built my existence here off of hard work, loyalty
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 20: to this company, and respect for all of its branches.