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#209: Louisville vs Florida State ACC Championship Game Preview, Playoff Scenarios and Transfer Portal Kombat · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the North Florida Sports Network.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, November 29th 2023.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: You got a great show for you, man.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: We're looking forward to the ACC championship.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Right after we look back at the latest rankings, FSU was number four.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: Nothing to worry about, Jimmy.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get everybody worried over here.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to prepare him for the worst man?
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the rankings were out.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Fsu was four.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: No surprise there, washington three, michigan and Georgia.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: To round out the top four, everything plays, you know, 400 feet of teams, that's they probably won't even meet up, you know?
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I bet they said that like if they all win, there ain't no need to even have any conversation, right, right, but you got to have a conversation, I become more and more convinced that they're just using the BCS.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm all for that.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know we got.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: I would say you have to look at it like you have two playoff games already and, and albeit at the winner's end, losers out.
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: You don't have that in the ACC or the big 12, because Louisville and Oklahoma State.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: But in the SEC, in the Pac-12, winning you're in but losing you're out.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, yeah, that's.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: That's, that's what I see, and you got like it would be one verse eight, that's Georgia against Alabama, and then Pac-12, you got three verse five.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: So those are like playoff matches, those are like quarterfinal matches in the Wimbledon.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Man, that's what you got right now.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: And you know I mean you got to look at it, that Florida yes, people are going to be well, florida State's playing Louisville or Oklahoma.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: I mean Texas is going to be the one that needs someone to lose the most.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: Right, because they?
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: Because, yeah, we'd be in the same spot if Florida State had a loss.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: They'd be on the outside looking at it, because they're only playing.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: Louisville.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: Right, well, that was the big key is having Ohio State behind Oregon.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the committees made a statement.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: They clearly aren't interested in a team that's not playing in their conference championship, unless a lot of dominoes fall.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: Right, they don't, you know, they don't want to hear from Ohio State.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: Well, well, when you get to go like, when you get to comparing, the question is Valabama wins, they're not going to have that conference championship, they're not going to have that compared to a Pac 12 champion, an SEC champion in Alabama that they would, that would have just beaten them, an ACC champion If it's Florida State undefeated and a big 12 champ.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: So that's why if you lose, you're out and that's how it should be and you know they, you know the only.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, just think last year.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say about that is that undefeated and lost to Kansas State and the big 12 championship and still made the playoff.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just your theory will be tested.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: If Alabama beats Georgia, Well, I know, I know, but that's what I'm, that's, I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: I'd hate.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, obviously, but it if George, george is out.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: If they lose, they're not going to, but they, if they lose, they're not the con.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: You stack up the resumes.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: They're not going to have that conference championship that all the other teams would have, right, and basically they're ready and I know they look great and everything, but it should matter.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: It should matter those, those things should matter.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't?
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, didn't it?
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: It feels a little bit weird where you have the conference, you win the SEC, but you'd lose the net.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: Or you'd win the national championship, but you lose your conference.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: So it's it shouldn't be that anyway.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: So this is this is winning your end.
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: This is what's great about college football, this is what's great about the matchup Saturday night, and you enjoy it enjoy it cause it's the last time.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: It's the last time it's going to happen.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: We will be closing very soon that.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: You know I expect Georgia to beat Alabama, so I don't think it'll happen.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: But if Alabama were to beat Georgia, this being the last time of the of the four, I mean I would not put it past them to pull some, some shenanigans.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: You know, first time ever, that that previous seasons has been used in the momentum to push a team in the playoffs, and that will be what it is.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: If that happens in Georgia, makes it it won't be as much about this season as well, yeah, but that's not going to happen.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think it will.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: I think Georgia is truly the best team in the country.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: And if they're not, they'll lose.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: And they could yeah, yeah, they're not.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: I would say they have to play the toughest opponent, obviously out of the unbeaten teams and the in the conference title.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: No, yeah.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: What about Oregon?
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: I mean Washington what about playing Oregon?
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: So I mean they're saying Alabama has the toughest opponent.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Georgia.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying Alabama is better than Oregon.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what the committee's saying.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd you know whatever.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I know.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: If you mean you hear Kirby smart talk about Alabama man.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: He's got.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: He's comparing Jaylen Monroe to like a combo of Tim Tebow.
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: Well, they're a different team.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a different team and Lamar Jackson.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's what he's great at, yeah.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: I don't expect Georgia to lose, but I think nobody wants to play Alabama in the playoff.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: No, because that way they're going to have beaten Georgia.
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: And that's when that deserves its respect.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: But let's, that's a big if, everybody, this whole, this whole, this like if mayhem happens, only if Georgia loses.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really the only way that it would just be a big shock Wow, georgia's out.
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: But that's what makes the game so much more appealing to me, is that this is it.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: This is the last time you'll have a chance to winning your in.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: I, you're out.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: I kind of have a question though, like just a Hypothetical.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: Let's say Oregon playing Washington you know Pinnick gets hurt, first drive out for the game.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Oregon weeks out of win against Washington, how are they gonna view that in terms of you know, impressive, if everybody else plays the, the starting quarterback and say Texas wins handily.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: And let's say Florida State does lose, so it opens up?
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: for all those, those you're saying Oregon would win with bow, nix.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they still have bone, Nix, but they'd be playing.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Washington that up where that's winning your in well.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: I hear people trying to discredit Florida State.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: You know, hey, people at ESPN.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: That's what they're doing, man.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: Well, like you, have to push the narrative right now.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: In there, the Florida State is the team right now who lost their quarterback, right, but we're playing against a team that that loses their quarterback in the beginning of the game, with that count against Oregon if it came to comparing them against, say, texas or Even even hell.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: Even you know you have to do what?
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: remember what Ohio State did Against Wisconsin in that Big Ten championship?
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: They Beat the living hell out of it right.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: So Texas needs to come out and try to put up 70.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and win 70 to zero like where they, oh my god, like that.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need to do if you're Texas.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: You need to come out and just say, oh my god, because you have a loss.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: You have a loss, Florida State just win.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: You have a backup quarterback.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: You're going to get.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, they lose and I know that they lot.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: We've a loss to a mid tiered SEC team but hey, I mean all burn lost to New Mexico State by like three scores.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: You know about to beat Alabama.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: So like get out of here with that crap.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm just glad you have to do with the committee.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: As valued is wins and losses, as it should be.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: You got four undefeated teams.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: If they remains four undefeated teams, you have those four in the last four of the playoff.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: That's yeah what you want.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you four undefeated conference winners.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: That that's who's going now They'll try to jump Oregon, will you know?
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: I think We'll jump over to state yeah, I think, no matter who matchups, I think, no matter who wins the Pac-12 title, that there's three winners going yeah, and the three spot three yeah, no, no, it is yeah, they'll have the George's one unless they lose.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then Michigan's two unless they lose.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: That's, that's what that is, and it'll just a chalk just and then the Pac-12 is getting three.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Lord of State, they win.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: We didn't see him.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna put him at three because the quarterback thing so Right, I mean I, whatever you either play Michigan or Georgia.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah so.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Take your pick, man, right, and I mean honestly you're most, most likely gonna have to play Georgia.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: If you want to win a title, you're gonna have to play Georgia.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: That's just how it, how it goes right.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you know right now.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: First, Florida State hasn't won an ACC championship since.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah we're getting way ahead of ourselves.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: They got a tough Louisville team.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: They, at Florida State, did set a record 25 Members of the all ACC honorable or honorable mention teams, isn't that?
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: impressive, huh.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they have like eight.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: Eight first team or six first teamers, that's right, something like that.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: I can't tell me, I can't remember it's eight or six.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: Jt was the quarterback, that's all that.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: I really player the year as well.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they counted Keon Coleman a few times.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's on there at three different spots, which is pretty impressive.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: You know, his first team receiver than the all-purpose player and also the first team punt returner Trey Benson, second team running back because of Louisville's running backs first team and he's really good.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as well as their receiver who else was the first team running back?
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: There were two first team running backs over.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Benson Might have been the guy from North Carolina I'm Ari and Hampton.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent in the conference man right, there's a lot of talent on this FSU team.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Darius Washington making first team D wash right the manual as well with the cease first team.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, manual is gonna be out of eligibility.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: We can get Washington back.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: I think that might be somebody that they have to Make a financial commitment to kind of keep them.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Keep them exploring his options.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: It's these a volatile piece of the offensive line.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: So Nothing really.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: It's coming down to the last weekend and you have a game for a championship to go 13 and 0.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: So I saw the rock 13 and 0 do it, for 13 man fires you up.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be any lack of Motivation in this game.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: No, that's not gonna be a problem about execution.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that you're playing.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: You know this is a really good Louisville team, regardless of what happened last week.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, yeah, they haven't been in this position either.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: So that's something that both teams are gonna have to kind of adjust to.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: Going out there and and having this kind of stage, this opportunity Right, they're a good team though man.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Well, before we get Really into nitty gritty of that matchup we still have we forgot to do the unrealized moment of last week.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who are the nominees?
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: We got Hugh freeze and Auburn for Blowing it.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: What are you doing, man?
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: The nominees are yes For sports than 31 and you have a QB spy.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: So there's a guy just sitting in the middle of the field watching Millrow Run around and throw it and not doing anything, and the defensive back is one-on-one with a receiver in the in the corner of the end zone.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: Horrible play by the defensive back.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was, it was awful.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna nominate Tim Tebow.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pretty fired up.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: He was fired up, didn't hated.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Had a little pharmaceutical assistance, maybe allegedly, allegedly, you don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: He was really feeling it.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Somebody knows?
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: somebody knows?
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: God knows, god knows, you hear that Ronnie van Zandt saw you right Tebow with his we're not gonna lose.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: I think he was feeling it, thinking Florida's gonna win yeah he was just really, really excited to be there and really thankful for Holly row and all the amazing work that she does for that wonderful network.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Unrealized right teams.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna nominate Matt Berry.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of college football fun.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to push us at six.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: He did on his rankings again.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I still Still talking about it, though.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean we're talking about it.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't like it.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: He could go be the host at Hollywood access facts, the truth.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: You know, people.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Politicking doesn't deserve a spot, even though unfortunately it's.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: That's all this sport, isn't?
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: It seems to be, especially this last year, when there's only four teams At least.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Next year you'll have Automatic qualifiers and then next year you'll have a three.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: One of these four lost teams are gonna upset somebody.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Do that team banging on that that 13th best team is gonna be just yeah, holler anyway, he had FSU at six.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wrong.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Your fourth force.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness that the committee is in reality land.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: You know what, matt?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: We're gonna actually do the exact opposite of what you think.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you can.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: It's truth if you believe it.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: So yes, it's not alive, you believe it?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: It's not a lie, if you believe it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: So I agree with you as well.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that as well, yeah there we go.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: All right, so do we have any or any more nominees?
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we sure do.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Who do we have?
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: We got mister.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna fire me.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I Got an ironclad buyout.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I got at least five years.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: They know Horges, oh my gosh, we get a double unrealized double unrealized.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Thought you're just gonna drink your way to success.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Huh, dana, not in Houston.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: You know what cuz they fire coaches for going?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Hey water boy.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, mr Coach, by you You're fired.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Hmm, he's out of there.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, dana Horgerson is fine.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you lose the UCF, you're done.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, mr Coach back.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: You're fired.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: So those are the four.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I still think it's got to be Auburn.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: It's got to be old Hugh back-to-back weeks.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Oh man, really, yeah, I, I mean, come on man, yeah, you had him beat.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: That was a bad time about the defensive play call at the end I'm talking about both me.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the muff punt that put him in that position in the first place.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, the defensive call like come on, that's your hand pick coordinator.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Well, we're just gonna give Auburn War Eagle then.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, it's Auburn.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one has to hurt me.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, auburn, this week's.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Unrealized mom, I'll say this though man Hugh is gonna get Nick.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Man, it looks like it yeah, man, they played Georgia Well.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be good man, they're gonna be good, they're gonna do some work in the the portal.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you want to go there next.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can, we can, all right, you want man, it's getting crazy out there.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, it's time.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: It's time Portals opening up.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It's time, it's time, all right, there we are.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's portal combat.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Portal combat time trademark the big one.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trademark, don't even try to take it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: The big guy right now making all the the headlines is cam ward from Washington State.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I guess the report is that he had, like, within a day, that 10, 11 different offers of a million Wow plus.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: He had Matt rule come out today, said you know if a Decent, decent QB in the portal is going anywhere from one to two million?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious yeah there's also some some, you know some other rumored to entrance in trees.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I offer Trevor ATM man.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the school I'm hearing a lot is Michigan.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Up Make sense?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, he wants to win something of substance and look like a an NFL back.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Also, look for Florida State to be pretty active on the defensive side of the ball.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the good thing about that is well, you don't want to look in, you're not.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: You get an ACC championship.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Look forward.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah that's one thing about these teams that are not doing well, or that's the if you don't, if you're not playing for something.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: This is that season where I'm not playing in the bowl game, I'm transferring, transferring out, looking for another deal, because you're in a semi-pro League with no rules now, pretty much.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got any any speck of talent and you're at it like, say, a g5 school, it's no rules man, it's transfer, portal time, it's, it's portal combat, it's gonna get wild.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's gonna get crazy.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, van Dyke and Dyson, the portal man Where's he gonna end up.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought maybe SMU, nah, man.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: That was just.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: They got a QB, even with a broke leg.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: They got a person's relation.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, grains of salt and what?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: yeah, oh, we want to go there to get any more speculation, yeah oh, we got some, some coaching speculation.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do, it All right.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Speculation, speculation, speculation, speculation, speculation, rain assault, speculation, speculation, rain assault.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Well, so you got some coaching.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Houston job.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: We just talked about old Dana.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, getting the axe Right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Looked like Willie Fritz was gonna be that guy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: He still may be in play.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: The rumor was that he would take the job and take Michael Pratt, the QB from Tulane, with him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But now, uh, cliff Kingsbury's name starting to get mentioned there with that oh but apparently he's got a couple offers there, yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Mike Elko has him targeted as the offensive coordinator for A&M.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's where he's going.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That's where he wants to be, but Houston's going to spend the head coach in the NFL man.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't want that stress.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think the money is something to get paid yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Just to chill in Texas.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He's from Texas, isn't he?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like he's going to just chill.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Now he can call plays, just recruit quarterbacks just hit on moms.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Everything he likes to do, that's.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I guarantee that that's he's going right there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it seems like it still seems like Willie Fritz is probably the guy at Houston which opens up that two lane job, which may or may not be News for Florida State.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Atkins would be one of their targets.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Blake Baker somebody's target?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, blake Baker, defensive coordinator Missouri has also been rumored for that job, two lane.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: A lot Like Blake Baker, missouri's defensive coordinator.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So, it might not be a slam dunk that Atkins gets the look.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: No, no, no OK.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it's between Travis Portland and guys losing their jobs, stepping down.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to, you know, sean Lewis already also, you know, but we also have Petrino going back to Arkansas.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And what was Jimbo Fisher's last ditch effort is now Pitman's last ditch effort at.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Arkansas and he's taken going back to be this offensive coordinator as everyone remembers of him and that daggum neck brace.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, off a motorcycle accident.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever at Arkansas Like nothing, like that's ever happened before.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Like who gets fired as a head coach and then comes back to that school as a coordinator?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you're seeing now, now that we're doing an IL, we're paying, winning in matters.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Coaches are making all sorts of money.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So they're just, he's good.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Coaches know that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He's a good play car.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He developed some of the better quarterbacks that we've ever seen.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he did.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So what was it 10 years ago that he did?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Marj Jackson, ok, ok.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: He had it, I mean what was that guy?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He's got it made the Marj Jackson.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: No, it took him at quarterback.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he took him at quarterback.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It took him at quarterback.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: That was, that was you know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I will give him credit I will give him credit because his old people wouldn't want to.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: You mean his old boss.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Jimbo wanted to make him a wide receiver.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: That was his best move was put in Lamar at quarterback.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, now he's going back to Arkansas.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: He's there today.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He's going to.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: They're going to be in the market for a QB.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Kj Jefferson's jumped in the portal.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So they, they got to figure that out.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But hey, it's just crazy to me what else.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So you got that's.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's some good speculation on some coaches.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Orgerson's fired along with Jimbo Fritz.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: He's going to Fritz, going to Houston.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: That's.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: That's a big, big rumor.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Um, I don't know Q's, and Q's is already hired.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: They're guy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Fran Brown from from UGA, the defensive backs coach.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: No, that's not funny.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: No, I thought it was going to be Dan mullin.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: No, I think he's too expensive for some of these schools.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: man, he's figuring out that he's got the gig right now.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: He's got the gig right now.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: He's a smaller school.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: They're going to be able to pay.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You think Jimbo will get back in the coaching.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, I think he will take a year off at least a year, until somebody's desperate enough to take a swing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: West Virginia Money to spend.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think Neil Brown is going to last too much longer up there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And then the question becomes are they going to let him hire his little brother?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And then all three of the trick it boys.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at Louisville.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: All right, this matchup is going to be something.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Man Tate Rodamaker and the.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Florida State.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Offense against that Louisville defense.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Who scares you on that Louisville defense?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Aston Jalotti, first guy that jumps out, 11 sacks Product of Boca Raton, florida, Really underrated guy, but he's scary coming off that edge.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: They got a lot of just hamming eggers up there on the defensive line that will just work you to death.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Both of their lines scare me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Powerful, big, experienced and they got skill players.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Man Kevin Coleman he's sudden, but Jamari Thrash is the guy that back in on their for the defense, though I think there's a way to attack them if you can thrash the big player, receiver man yeah he's the transfer from Georgia State.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: You know they got some other guys out there.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I think they got another guy with four touchdowns and can't remember his name, but you know Chris Bell is the best place to attack them on defense.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you got to get middle of the field linebackers the same kind of throw.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: The Florida State needs to throw the ball tight ends man A little bit more.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to, but it's hard if Rodamaker isn't going to pick up the pace a little bit.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, internal clock and move.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a neutral field.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be in the environment, should be a little more friendly to make adjustments, to make calls.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully the Wiggles got out.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: He got the Wiggles out a little bit and I think they should speed things up running a little more pace.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: You just missed.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Jordan track.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You miss them Defensively.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You know they're going to have to get off the field in the first quarter.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You can't have this, this and pretty much you can't have any quarter where you're only running three plays.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: That's going to be right, Trouble right, Unless it's two plays and a touchdown.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Louisville has those guys that can make the big play yeah, they do they have that's big play at receiver they?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Play a half limit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: That that's to our Jordan Isaac Guerrero man.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He's a battering Ram, so they have a nice one.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Two punch in the road State's defense needs to continue.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: what it's done is holding teams to field goals of anything and because they've been just stout and they had limiting big plays and not turning the ball over Only five turnovers all year Leads the country.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta continue to do that that was the best thing I liked about Rodermaker against Florida was he didn't do anything bad.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You didn't mess it up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a strength.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: This week you're going to have to do something.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Is that fair?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: He's going to have to score.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: You can't drop touchdowns here.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: You know you're going to have to deliver some timely throws into that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair that you're not just, they're not going to.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: They're going to.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to be able to just rely on trade.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: They're going to try to shut Benson down.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be number one If you're Louisville and defense right, yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: You want to see now that Travis is out of the picture man trapeze and becomes the number one guy out there that can hurt you Right Cause.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Even even if Keon Coleman's out there or Johnny Wilson like, you still got to rely on Rodermaker to get him the ball, you know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: But you can get Benson the ball immediately.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: So you got to focus.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be their number one.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Priority is do not let number three get loose.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: You know when he gets the ball gang tackle and that that comes with being aggressive.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So you got to get the ball out early and and a certain man don't be afraid to pull it down and run.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I haven't seen.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I do like the way Brock does that the read option play.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you need to scratch that out of the playbook with Rodermaker or not, I don't know but it's something that's just not hopefully.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to they're going to scratch it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's just the look that they like to give.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You know that stretch run play.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's just maybe he needs to take it down and be more aggressive than it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And it's.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You know, like I know, when people are critical of Jordan Travis, you know sometimes there's a linebacker waiting back there.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: But there was a couple of times against Florida where Tate had wide open field and, guy, you got to pull it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Man, I know you want to just hand it to Trey and let him do his thing, but you got to pull it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: There's 18 yards there to get it, get it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Louisville's.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about plumber, quarterback 13, all ACC, yeah yeah, had a solid year.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: If he, they pretty much win, unless he doesn't turn it over Both losses right, he does have 11 interceptions on there, so that's going to be a key for Florida State.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But he's accurate when he's on deceptively mobile.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: He's not a, you know, a juke jukey out of your shoes and then, you know, burn you down, feel any of that man, but he can.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: He can pick up a first down if it's there.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It's not a statue back there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: But I I mean I'm thinking back through the season outside of Jaden Daniels.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we've played a QB that's as good as he is all season you know, Riley Leonard maybe um, I don't know if he was as good throwing the ball as plumber.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Well, you're going to.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have the advantage of going against a new quarterback.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: No, and Brian Brahms really good, really good play caller.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yes so that we'll find out.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: They're going against two really good play callers.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: One of them doesn't have their quarterback, but Florida State is deep.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: They have a lot of other guys that you just have to get the ball to get the ball to these playmakers.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They have them all over the field, every position.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it falls to the wall, man, this last game you got to get on cold and everything out there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, is there going to be a guy in that receiving room that's can step up and be that third guy, maybe to make a big play, you seem?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a key man.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Well is who.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: To Kai Can you get?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can you get a guy?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that can do it the whole game and just eat up yards, you know.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Jaheem Bell.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Through Jaheem Bell.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean he's nowhere near a hundred percent, so you don't know how much you're going to be able to rely on him.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You know more lock is at times still kind of lost out there.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Somebody from the receiving group is going to have to come through.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Right, so we'll see you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Man Deuce, it's loose, or forbid Destin Hill Anybody somebody to step up from that slot position man and do some work.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe some big plays from that position.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I just I mean wherever Brownlee's lining up, I think you got to throw at him.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Make him prove that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Make him prove that he's not still terrible at the position.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well we had to go.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Get on out of here, but is it championship week, alabama, yeah, georgia, georgia, or a playoff game, yeah it's playoff.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I think Georgia's going to win.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see if they're able, if Alabama, if J Lemon Rowe can carve that secondary up, georgia, that's going to come down to you.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Can you throw on?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Georgia.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't anticipate Georgia's sitting back at all.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to bring it at him every play.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So it's going to.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: They're going to force the issue, man, because you saw what Auburn did late in the game.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You can't, just you can't, let him rare back and throw it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Man, no dude will put it anywhere on a laser.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: You've got a rifle cannon, yeah, and then some, then some, right?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Laser blades man Against the Cowboys of Oklahoma State.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think Texas is going to roll, you know that's the safe bet.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: But, man, it wouldn't surprise me if, if Gundy just pulled something out just because that's how Oklahoma State is.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: You know we lose 45 to three to UCF, but we still managed to find our way to the.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: We still beat Oklahoma.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And then we got a rematch Oregon like nine and a half favorite.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, wow, everybody's expecting Oregon to roll.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They've looked better they have since the loss.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: But you know it's still.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: It's hard to beat a team twice man, we all know that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: But I think people are underestimating Washington just because they played close games.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Right, you know it still win.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Nobody's gotten him yet.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Call it troops.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: The Hurricanes came up short.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Last night in Kentucky hit a buzz.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Saw man in Kentucky.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Were they?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: in Lexington.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, tonight that kind of shows almost not even fair It'll be at the DLT double C the nose against the Bulldogs on the hardwood.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: What we know about that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I know they got to lose his little brother nine, 15, or is it?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: His twin brother.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, brother is a brother.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: We'll go to that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that Maybe looking forward to week Got NFL picks.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow We'll look at the games again before the game start.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Oh man, we got.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: We got to touch on what real quick dude.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, Go ahead.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Willie Simmons, SWAT coach of the year, that's right.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Willie Simmons and family we're going to preview the SWAT Championship too.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time, right here in the North Florida Sports Network.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: We had to go, our ride was here, we got a shuttle.