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Indiana Jones and the Recliner of Retirement: Dial of Destiny Review · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  something amazing has happened this week the three of us have all watched
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  the same movie and all watched the same TV show this never happens any in
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  theaters in theaters it's like went on a date except we
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  didn't I had to give myself a handy me too Luke really there's another
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  thing D don't oh no you had someone with you yeah I was there with my friend and
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  his child so I'm not even going to best we move on my lawyer has advised me
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  not to comment he was also there he was
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  there welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy but no we all went to the mov we all saw Indiana Jones and the dollar
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  Destiny and I'll go first are we going to do spoilers just so I
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  know um look there is something I want to ask about and it is a spoiler we
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  don't necessarily have to name it um maybe we
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  do what if we do General Impressions now and then at the end yes come back toss
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  some spoilers out I'm gonna say I liked
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  it I also liked it I like to Adit I've got I've got
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  questions there were times where I was going to go down a path of trying to
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  pick it apart or something but then I stopped and went it's just a
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  movie yeah just sit back and watch now it wasn't a necessarily good movie but
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  it was enjoyable it was certainly better I think we can agree than kingdom of the
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  Crystal Skull yes yes definitely my my major complaint with it
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  is that it's too long yeah it did not need to be that long and the the middle in
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  particular was that chase scene yeah we didn't need all actually
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  keep that one lose the one in New York City that one didn't need to really it
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  didn't need as many Chase scenes or yeah there was a lot of just aimless chasing
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  scenes with no they didn't Advance the plot or anything yeah because the thing
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  is uh in the other original Indiana Jones movies they have
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  far fewer locations but the journey from one to the next they are being pursued
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  yeah it's exciting on the way somewhere not just this is just they turn up
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  somewhere and the bad guys are there too so there's a Chase um which doesn't
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  doesn't increase the tension in fact it pauses the action so you can watch a
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  Chase sequence okay I think if they had cut shrunk them down or not had as many
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  I think it would have the movie would have been the right length yeah mm look
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  the beginning I was I was smiling I was like all right all right and in the
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  middle I was like you've lost me a bit and in the end I was smiling again so
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  yeah so we'll talk about the ending later obviously of course um the
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  beginning I'd read a lot of reviews online that people said the flashback
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  sequence was great as soon as it cut to present day they tuned out I disagree I
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  thought it was great but continued being great after that I think cutting from
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  Indie at his best to old man Indie and this is for those who
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  haven't seen it this is not kingom Crystal Skull old man Indie this is old
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  man Indie yeah this is retirement from his shitty job goes back to his shitty
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  apartment rides the subway old man Indie fortune and Glory he's an old
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  man that's right I appreciated that they didn't in in Crystal Skull I'm just
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  gonna turn my mic down a bit in Crystal Skull they had for my tastes too much of
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  him as an older guy doing things he's not really would have been up for he
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  swinging around too much fighting big people kind of thing none of that in
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  this he's an old man yeah yeah Rides a
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  Horse he does stuff but it's like age appropriate horse with the riding the
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  horse I even think he told the the stunt guy to like pull it back a bit like to
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  try and get him to be ride a bit older not yeah yeah but I I still want to know
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  because there's been a few articles about how like Phoebe like she's worse
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  than you thought she would have been B was great in it she was absolutely fine
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  she was absolutely F I do not know what people have against her here's the thing
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  too if you didn't like her character that's fine because she's kind of an
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  antagonist for most of to like her yeah until she redeems herself later in the
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  film you know she's a Skelly wag yes but
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  yeah I I got I got a shock about why people are s of having a go at her when
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  you know why Luke you know why yeah she
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  has a vagina yeah and ind's not using it
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  see capure is 10 times more irritating than Phoebe wallbridge but because he
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  banged her it's like oh IND he got a bit away yeah yeah it's all right yeah also
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  Spielberg he got in there it was a Tom Cruz movie he would
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  have banged her I got some Tom Cruz news later but oh yeah I don't know there's a there's
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  plenty of people he's not banging these days too I think he really does
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  understand that no one wants to see a middle-aged man middleaged to elderly
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  man banging young chicks no one wants to see that at least that's what they tell
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  me did they I think he learned that from The Mummy didn't he who did he bang in the
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  mummy Nick Miller I never saw it but I never saw it but evidently the
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  love interestes in that movie for Tom Cruz was like some like 20 years younger
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  than him or something honestly I don't remember it's a very for movie I've
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  forgotten basically all of that movie and I did watch it I know I watched it I
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  know I didn't Jake Lloyd's in it right yeah Jake Lloyd really Jake Lloyd jaky
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  not Jake Lloyd Jake Nick Miller who's that guy Jake Nick Miller I don't know
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  his name it's not Jake Lloyd not Jake Lloyd are you an angel no I'm Tom Cruz
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  well perhaps yes I [Laughter] am my Tom Cruz laugh and my Christopher
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  lamber laugh are essentially the same laugh so that's their fault not yours
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  thank you thank you that is support that's real support you know what occurred to me
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  today I was thinking about it um okay I'll give you the train of thought I was
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  trying to think what ethnical background Indie has right like obviously is
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  Anglo-Saxon or is it more Germanic or trying to think of the origin of the
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  word jones you know and then I thought well his dad's Scottish so that's just
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  the answer but then Ur to me sha Conor does not ever change his
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  accent no matter what nationality he is playing that's true he's played a
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  Spanish accented Egyptian oh Egyptian sorry yeah a Russian in uh that's right
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  Hunt for Red October still just kept the Scottish accent even James Bond who's
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  supposed to be just like you know marmalade British Scotland like he
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  didn't ever even pretend yeah like James
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  M also Scottish I've never once heard him use his real accent in a movie yeah
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  Christian Bale doesn't speak exactly wherever he's from Welsh or whatever he is
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  yeah okay even when Christian Bale drops character in a movie and starts yelling
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  at some guy he'll still do it ACC yeah he does character did you watch that
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  interview with um Tom Holland that said that he was in Britain and he got hired
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  to do an ad and they're like all all action and he's like
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  this product blah blah blah and they're like sorry are you doing an American
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  accent he's like oh sorry that's just my acting voice that's
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  funny yeah well his is pretty convincing honestly not all of them yeah agree H
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  Bennett Cumberbatch is a bit but he's just so cool it doesn't matter I am an American
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  man and other aside have you seen that clip where Harrison Ford tells Benedict
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  Cumberbatch that he's a big fan no they're both on the couch it must be
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  gram Norton and um Harrison Ford and Benedict and then Harrison Ford just
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  goes I've got to stop here and just tell you I'm just such a big fan of yours and
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  uh Benedict come back he like what and I've got to take a minute
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  guys Dan I have some news for you I've done some research Indiana Jones is
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  Scottish okay there you go all right the Jones are a family of paternal Scottish
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  descent okay okaying to So based on on Sean connory yes is there
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  more evidence though than beyond
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  that Henry and Jones is definitely like you know anglosaxon in some way so it
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  makes sense he be Scottish speaking of backgrounds is not
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  a spoiler I just wanted to say I really liked ma Mickelson in this yes in dollar
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  Destiny and that scene when the guy delivers the food and he's like oh where
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  you from yeah and I was like oh do that pleas mate and I'm like no
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  he's such a good NY because he's like was characterization not just I mean he
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  did also say some evil things but there was just the way he behaved was just
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  like he's a [ __ ] and we'll get into a
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  bit more later yeah yeah yeah I was
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  about to say spoiler um I still think this
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  suffered uh from what Crystal Skull did in terms of too many digital
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  enhancements however yeah I agree much much more subtle much more subdued than
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  Crystal Skull yeah yeah arguably a lot more
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  practical right but a few too many fake
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  backgrounds for my personal text I agree 100% necessarily they were at some
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  beautiful locations I just don't know why they didn't just film those I
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  suspect perhaps Ford is an 80-year old man and you just you got to shoot him
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  indoors most of the time conditioning like maybe it's as simple as that yeah I
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  don't mean patronize him no no no actually I think it just comes down to
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  just cheaper but you're there anyway there's outdoor shots but maybe that's a
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  second unit are they there yeah exactly like they probably just filmed
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  most of this on a lot somewhere I've watched an interview
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  today it just cropped up in insta but it was uh red carpet Harrison Ford and some
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  journalist smartass journalists Australian I think goes to him uh Mr
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  Ford what's it like playing an angry old man at the end of his
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  [Laughter]
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  career what' he say he just stared at him it was amazing I like Carris affording
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  interviews I think if he if he's getting along with the interviewer he's very
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  funny if he's not [ __ ] God help that interviewer yeah you're
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  talking even if you do get on but he just thinks it might be funny to wind
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  you up you will be wound up yeah that all the the I guess interview cycle for
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  blade run of 249 when it was Harris and Ryan Gosling Ryan I cannot believe how
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  funny they are together yeah to and like I mean if I was interviewing them I'd be
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  like please continue this is go yeah that's I'm going to sit back and you
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  guys just talk um but I can see that might be annoying if you actually want
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  to ask them questions yeah yeah interview each other yeah so need to ask
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  is is this it for Harrison Ford is he or do we think or there more no he's
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  promised this is not it for him it's just it for Indie yeah he's not gonna do
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  Indiana Jones anymore but he's gonna act until he physically can't I think is
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  what he said so he's gonna do like a Sean Connor and just once he calls it
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  just disappear slap someone and then die yeah he's going to start in League of
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  Extraordinary Gentlemen 2 as as the quarter main character
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  yeah in an Indiana he is he is decades older than connory was when he played
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  his dad because I think I think Conor was 13
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  years older than Harrison Ford when they played in that film
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  anyway he he wasn't as old as we thought he was Harrison's never been young for
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  us he's always start he was in his yeah yeah we've never seen 20-year-old
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  Harrison Ford in anything no just those photos of him as a roie for the
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  doors that's what he was doing when he was 20 he was smart though he was talking
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  about again old interviews coming up because of that IND cycle or whatnot
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  talking about how because we know he was a carpenter we've talked about that
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  before but the reason he was doing that is because he was smart he watched all
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  of his other active colleagues oh my God so when he goes That's the cup of a
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  carpenter you reckon was noticing that from his own personal experience that
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  was unscripted Dan he
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  [Laughter]
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  like he knew if he could just Outlast all of his competition in Hollywood
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  eventually he he'd make it so he was like what's a skill I have I'm a
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  carpenter I will work as a carpenter in that area a lot better than being like a
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  waiter yes exactly more consistent live off The Carpenter's weight actual money
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  yeah like a wife and kids at that point too and he was working for people in
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  Hollywood not just in a you know kind of in a restaurant but in their homes and
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  things the rumor is that he used to be the one to go to if he wanted to have
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  like his secret drugs compartment built in jacuzzi I mean if I was going to get a
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  if I was the kind of guy who had a Jacuzzi I probably wanton a drug
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  compartment as well yeah and you'd want Harrison for to make it for you yeah
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  yeah absolutely still to this day even today yeah and it reminds me of Anie
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  remember that story about Anie when he he started that company before he' even
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  started a film uh European chimney repairs or something like that because
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  he knew that people were into European brick he didn't know how to build a
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  chimney he was just a big man but and he wanted a job that got him outside and
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  was lifting things yeah and he got all his was that he'd he he'd go over to the
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  and talk to the person and say ah we can't do it for that little let me go
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  talk to my mate and then they'd go and speak in German to one another knowing
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  full well they' take whatever money they were offer it come back he like okay we
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  might do it for this this but he says he doesn't want to you know yeah and they
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  just had this fullon business going yeah he was and then he bought all the real
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  estate in saner and then he didn't need to work at all anymore yeah again
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  because that's where he was hanging out at the beach and then he became a movie
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  star because he could because he didn't have to do anything else as a hobby he
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  became the biggest star in the world
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  yeah yeah interesting SM I mean smart
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  guy yeah I told you I watched the Terminator a couple of week ago
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  um I like Anie and just about everything is in however I will say James Cameron
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  is one of the few people who knows what an's specific strengths are which is
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  looking tough and not saying anything like you believe that that's not an
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  Austrian accent but a robot voice in that movie whereas in every other movie
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  you're like where is he from like why does he you know like you mentioned
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  Commando before it was like is this an Austrian expat working for the American
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  Military yeah I've never thought of that yeah I think it worked well in Conan
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  though oh sure oh yeah yeah yeah he punches a Samaran
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  accent yeah prove it's not
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  yeah uh I liked the tone of Indie I thought the tone was right Y in a funny
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  way I thought the the closest other
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  Indie tonally speaking is fate of Atlantis oh sure rather than one of the
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  films yeah the game because it's kind of got that Global
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  feeling like Temple of Doom the whole thing set in one one place you know what
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  I mean it's all in India Raiders is
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  almost all in uh Egypt yeah uh this
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  one's all over the place and it's almost a series of fetch quests find this and
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  that'll help you find this and then this other thing quite glob Troy like yeah one
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  thing one thing I I found quite weird about with it being very glob Troy
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  troppy it's the word yeah I can say it is they didn't have the and the red ink
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  very often no just the one shot with the it whereas it's weird because they
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  did travel around a lot but there's only one map
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  true yeah and I was looking for that I'm trying I'm trying to remember if they
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  overused it in Crystal Skull because I think Crystal Skull was a a cautionary
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  tale to them because this pretty much tried to do the opposite of everything
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  in that movie this they used it so late in the movie it would have made more
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  sense to maybe if you're going to use it once use it earlier I would agree with
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  that be going where is it one other disappointment I have with this I feel
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  like John Williams phoned it in nothing super memorable yeah this the
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  most memorable stuff was the existing done yeah yeah where they brought back
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  you know well characters and themes and things like that oh that's the music
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  that I'm associate with that but there's no what's the been trying to retire for
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  a long time like the Ark of the Covenant has a theme the Holy Grail has a theme
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  uh there's a theme there's various themes in Temple Temple Doom's music is [ __ ] awesome
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  oh it's stuck in there but this just let the man
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  retire he wants to retire let him go yeah yeah they pulling him out of
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  retirement to make one last I wonder if he even did it he just said you know
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  have a go and I'll I'll approve it when it's fine to his team yeah yeah because
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  it's all existing themes that he'd written already yeah I actually I'll be
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  interested I'll check the soundtrack on Spotify maybe maybe it was just like
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  down in the mix of something I just felt like there wasn't like I was expecting a
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  theme for the McGuffin because he usually Indiana Jones usually has that
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  but but I think Al the McGuffin was watered down by Like You could argue
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  first that that tablet they had to find was like a a Proto McGuffin sure like
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  would it have had its own theme and then the actual device had its own theme and
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  then maybe it's because the arc is so Central to Raiders of the Lost Arc that
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  anytime they get near it the music swells the theme comes in you know
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  that's Elite Motif whereas this movie didn't really ask for that kind of yeah
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  I suppose so recognition I don't I don't know mentioned M mson he he was so
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  good I I love his style in this too I
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  love his [ __ ] clothes I mean to a point we'll go to the end
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  later he's so [ __ ] stylish you know yeah um but I also like that he is kind
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  of you know we talked about last week about how belloc in Raiders is like the
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  same as Indie but just on the opposite side of the coin they've brought this
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  back in he's an intellectual you he's a scientist he wants to find this for his
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  own personal motives
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  um but also we now have one three and
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  five with Nazis because every time they do one without them it's not as good and
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  then the next one they're like put the nais back back in yeah we like to see him punching
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  Nazis I I still I love the motivation for I about say I love the motivation for
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  the naris though I it's a different spin on yes very much
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  wants to do we'll get we'll go specifics at the end too yeah yeah no I I was
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  pleasantly surprised by's move on to something else because we're going to
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  come back to this and I keep getting very close to saying a spoiler no
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  worries I'll just well let me just say listeners I think it's good if you're an
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  Indi Jones fan I think it's definitely worth checking out if you're not sure I
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  think it's worth your time just go just go it's fine
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  I'm as I watch Temple Doom
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  Raiders watch it's because you're a 40y old man you're not a 10y old child
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  anymore right you know what I should to do the M today okay Luke thanks thanks
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  it was from from Last Crusade to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was 19 years from
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  um Crystal Skull to this was 15 really yeah and it just like
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  Disturbed it's not so not like not such a big it's a similar Gap that's
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  interesting yeah for some reason it feels that feels longer between like the
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  first three in definitely like a lot longer I don't
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  mean like it's years longer up gentlemen we got more behind us than a hit yeah speak for
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  yourself look before we get off movies um movie news lots more uh I I watched
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  something this week and I don't know why I hadn't watched this before and after I
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  watched it I don't know why this isn't a bigger thing have you guys seen
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  65 dri
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  yeah versus dinosaurs it is excellent is
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  it see I think I heard that it was garbage absolute seriousness there's
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  nothing Camp about this movie right like you would be tempted
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  to Godzilla this up a little no no no no no this is terrifying this is a man
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  crashed lands on Earth 65 million years
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  ago on the day the asteroid is coming to wipe out the
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  dinosaurs yeah right the world pod no he just has to get the [ __ ]
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  off it's excellent Adam Driver is a [ __ ] star and as I was I must admit I
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  was watching this he did this little smirk and I was like man he's got almost
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  a young Harrison Ford look have they ever been in a movie together and I
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  started to Google and then I was like of course they have of course they [ __ ]
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  have um this movie is dead set excellent okay all right and this this
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  is obviously a visual effects Extravaganza except they never draw
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  attention to themselves H like the only reason you know there must be CGI is
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  because you can't get dinosaurs you know not yet and
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  spaceships Etc no I think you both really like this one
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  of on we spoke about it when it was coming out and saying like we all wanted
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  to go see it I just one as one that s slipped off the radar this should have
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  been the biggest movie of the year I I heard that it wasn't good I'm sure I did
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  so I kind of dismissed it yeah okay yeah minute one he's on a ship crashing into
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  Earth like they don't waste any time there is no fat on this movie also have
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  a guess how long the movie goes for the runtime hour and a half
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  90 minutes exactly that's perfect yeah
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  they went feature length no extended sequence there's history but there's no
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  [ __ ] two hours max yeah yeah no it's it's excellent P it on this I might
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  watch that today after I finish watching Silo if you don't like it I'll eat my [ __ ]
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  hat which one I'll get a hat and I'll eat
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  it we get to pick which one yeah yeah my
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  y so you're watching Soo now Luke I am I'm up to episode eight so I think I've
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  got two more left yeah yeah another first in a long time that we've all
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  watched a show at the same time we're all enjoying it and you're right it's so
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  you're watching but you don't you don't know where it's
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  going I was talking to Jenna and I were talking to a friend last night about it
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  because he also watched it and he reminded me of things and I was like oh
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  yeah they're gonna have to follow up on that and and I just got more and more
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  excited about like more of it because it's just like I've forgotten that there were these
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  other things that yeah yeah it's just so interesting like you don't
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  know I have a theory well that's the thing have you
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  finished Luke Tu episodes okay I'll give away absolutely nothing but even the
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  things they do explain you still go well that could mean a number of things like
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  there's no definitive answers that's what I liked about it it's like very
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  satisfying because you find out what you wanted to find out you go oh hang on a
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  minute yeah that's right yeah okay that
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  mystery solved or is it the reason what I think my theory is is because they're
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  in the sil they don't know why they don't remember and everything that's
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  sort of a relic to the passo from cuz
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  that it's it is Earth it is it's America like there's all the Relic you see stuff
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  from America my is is they went down they built this side because of some Earth
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  event and they the reason why they started to get rid of all these things
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  of reminding people the outsides because people want to go outside and it is just
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  dangerous out there and having that hope that maybe you one day go leads to
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  problems so if you suppress that it's easier to keep people under control yeah
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  well it's like that that myth of Utopia you know it's Thomas Moore wrote it in
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  the you know whatever the 15th century and then again Alex Garland with the
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  Beach you know if you have this perfect Society yeah you have to murder anyone
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  who disrupts it or it's no longer perfect peach was a good movie and
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  there's only like 10,000 people in there so to did you know that was Alex Garland
• 26:43
  I didn't until you said that yeah it didn't direct it Danny Bo directed it
• 26:48
  gin wrote it okay okay I didn't know I I yeah okay so like 10,000 people is not a lot
• 26:55
  and if you start to separate it's very hard cuz everyone has their own job and
• 27:01
  if you don't all work together it all falls apart but you can't have extra
• 27:05
  people in there because you can't support that either so it's
• 27:12
  yep so I think the people who are in control keeping them don't really
• 27:18
  understand why just have to wait see wait I'll find
• 27:24
  out you will find out some things but I can't it's great I'm upset that there's
• 27:29
  only two more episodes I wish I had to waited till the whole season was out cuz
• 27:34
  not like I'm watching it like back to back to back but I'm watching it and I'm
• 27:37
  enjoying it and I'm yeah I'm now no I'm watching I'm still watching an episode
• 27:42
  at a time because I get distracted and I play games sure and then I'll miss stuff
• 27:49
  yeah because I'm working on becoming seventh in Australia yeah yeah
• 27:55
  yeah I am I think about 40,000 away from being okay so my entire
• 28:02
  game I was about to say to me that's a lot but I know to you it's not I mean
• 28:06
  it's still a hurdle but you've done you've done leaps I think I don't think
• 28:10
  I'm even at 40,000 I think I'm Hospital need to SP a couple of weeks in hospital
• 28:17
  no I've now sort of burned all of the quick and easy games that's can I give
• 28:22
  you my gamer score no you cannot you might surprise you you have
• 28:28
  more than that you have
• 28:32
  57,000 Larry Nelson
• 28:35
  and then you have 12 12, or just 12
• 28:41
  12,000 12 you got 12 points you got one and an eighth achievement at some point
• 28:47
  oh hold on no sorry when I get an achievement I Sor I'm wrong sorry I was
• 28:50
  looking at the wrong number Matt you have 39 okay Dan you have eight oh
• 28:56
  that's my true achievement score is it yeah it's on a bell curve is it I'm glad to
• 29:01
  see M increases on that bell curve and not decreas no it didn't you have eight
• 29:05
  not 12 oh okay it was just a mistake [Laughter]
• 29:11
  fine yeah uh other movie news I was very excited to hear that apparently they're
• 29:17
  making more Elita movies yes I saw that
• 29:21
  so everything one's confirmed and more it was confirmed by accident too uh
• 29:27
  James ceron whether he meant to or not confirm them because he said he was
• 29:31
  asked in an interview why he sold their
• 29:34
  house in uh in in California yes and he said well on Avatar I'm working in
• 29:39
  Wellington and Los Angeles but then on the new Elita movies I'm going to be in
• 29:43
  Austin so it didn't make sense anymore and then everyone was like new alah
• 29:47
  movies yeah so good stuff I am looking forward to that he's not going to be the
• 29:53
  director is he is he planning on just producer no he didn't direct the first
• 29:57
  one it was Robert Robert Rodriguez yeah
• 30:01
  Mr inconsistent himself yeah yeah he's
• 30:05
  got uh another movie out at the moment that I've completely forgot the name of
• 30:11
  with Ben Affleck in it uh oh okay but I know with the first Elita um
• 30:17
  not that didn't it did it did okay at the box office they did like 400 million
• 30:23
  or something like it did enough that he said we might be able to make more yeah
• 30:28
  didn't do as much as they were hoping I think it got a lot of love after the
• 30:32
  movie came out as well cuz I didn't see it till a lot l i I watched a trailer
• 30:37
  later because somebody had said oh this movie was under was underrated and I
• 30:41
  watched the trailer and I was like that looks [ __ ] incredible and then I
• 30:44
  watched and really enjoyed it so I'm happy okay but maybe I was
• 30:49
  just in the wrong frame of mind I'd happily watch another one H you know you
• 30:53
  just said Luke something that sparked you said that it picked up uh
• 30:59
  popularity later yeah I watched a video
• 31:03
  essay uh recently on The Disappearance of the Home Video Market including VHS
• 31:10
  and more DVD even more about how a movie
• 31:13
  could do badly at the cinema but do so well in the Home Market that it
• 31:18
  eventually then get sequels Kevin career that will never happen again because you
• 31:25
  don't get residuals from streaming I mean people are on strike now trying to
• 31:30
  but you know what I mean like you don't you don't make money other than your
• 31:34
  initial sales of streaming so it's not like things will gain
• 31:38
  momentum anymore than they used to that seems a little bit wrong doesn't it or
• 31:44
  does it I don't know I don't understand money we can talk about the strike in
• 31:48
  that actually we've got a bunch of news related to it so strikes plural yeah
• 31:52
  strik Point yeah if you haven't heard listeners the writers have been on
• 31:54
  strike for two months now and then now the actors are onri
• 31:58
  M so I guess we're going to have to wait for all sorts of movies and TV shows and
• 32:05
  everything yeah next next couple years are not going to be great for movies and
• 32:10
  TV oh we're gonna get so much reality TV yeah yeah so Deadpool 3 they've shut
• 32:15
  down uh Mission Impossible that's disappointing because you know those
• 32:19
  great photo set photos from Deadpool have come out showing Wolverine finally in the yellow
• 32:26
  outfit the cast of up walked out of the premere to go on
• 32:30
  strike oh wow yeah I mean they presum they people knew they were going to do
• 32:36
  it but it was kind of a now they're not striking for their own benefit right
• 32:40
  they're striking to support the writers or are theying too they're striking for their
• 32:45
  own as well now and because a lot of people are saying [ __ ] Rich
• 32:49
  celebrities I haven't got enough money and it's like well no it's not about
• 32:52
  them it's about everybody else who's yeah it's it's yeah that's right because
• 32:57
  barg is the the one strength that unions have and because the the it the
• 33:03
  association of motion pictures or whatever just yesterday or today put out
• 33:08
  that uh contract basically they wanted to make this deal where if you're a um
• 33:14
  an extra what do they call them background actor or whatever you go in
• 33:19
  for one day they scan you into the computer and then they can just use you
• 33:23
  in films forever and you don't get paid anything what yeah they were trying to
• 33:26
  get the the guil to AG that and it was like [ __ ] off no thank you I mean that's
• 33:32
  what that Black Mirror episode was about so you get paid for one day of work one
• 33:37
  day and then your career is just done because how the [ __ ] are you ever gonna
• 33:39
  get any more work after that yeah yeah see this is why I I'm not liking the
• 33:45
  direction of AI it's he just getting rid
• 33:49
  of writers actors everyone but thought it was going to kill us all and and take
• 33:54
  over the world and robots were going to rise up no it's just it's just [ __ ]
• 33:58
  up our entertainment industry one like don't worry that's not going to happen
• 34:02
  and then they literally are like this is what we'd like to do and it's like of
• 34:06
  course they said that like yeah well it's even like with the
• 34:11
  new apps out there that um could like use someone's mimic someone's voice like
• 34:16
  that's going to take away jobs from voice actors I saw somebody made on it
• 34:20
  was a YouTube video somebody made it's Johnny Cash singing Barbie Girl yeah I
• 34:26
  heard that yeah it is incredible it's not Johnny Cash but you wouldn't know it
• 34:31
  just sounds like Johnny Cash singing Barbe this one I so if it was a Barbie
• 34:36
  girl it's [ __ ] great and I think there's a big difference between someone
• 34:40
  doing the voice and acting that out like so the miming devices just program it
• 34:45
  into a computer and going do it I think there's a huge difference and you're
• 34:49
  very Pro human being Luke it's not crazy isn't
• 34:56
  it interview the other day head of Disney [ __ ] was he didn't have a lot
• 35:01
  of nice things to say about the strikes he which I guess he's he's a
• 35:06
  business yeah his point of view is basically you are gonna [ __ ] this
• 35:10
  industry if you all go on strike yeah and also I think what he was saying is
• 35:16
  that yeah but he he said their demands are unrealistic which yeah and I think
• 35:22
  his point is that everyone has had to
• 35:25
  make allowances yeah and sacrifices
• 35:29
  postco and in the streaming era streaming is not profitable for
• 35:35
  anybody it's just not and so they still haven't figured out how how is this
• 35:40
  going to work like this system doesn't work we're all just pretending
• 35:43
  everything's fine but it's not yeah we as audiences demand it and as we've
• 35:47
  discussed so many old filmmakers and stuff are begging us to go back to the
• 35:51
  cinema and we're like no yeah well they're not going to make movies anymore
• 35:57
  eventually continues that's the bottom line I think that I I think that's the future like
• 36:02
  you don't have that traditional format anymore I think that they certainly
• 36:06
  won't be the $400 million budget movies well and then Nicholas winning Reen came
• 36:12
  out this week and he said that he said that and he said and good let's just
• 36:16
  [ __ ] burn it down see what happens all right M that's yeah I mean that's
• 36:21
  danger is it you have a movie that goes for an hour and a half two hours that
• 36:25
  costs $400 million and then we'll have a television show like Silo which we're
• 36:30
  all loving which has how many hours and probably costs less than that in
• 36:35
  total yeah 100% it would have yeah there's no way how does that work yeah
• 36:42
  yeah arguably now aru Soo is better than a lot of movies that are coming out yes
• 36:48
  yeah oh yeah yeah and a lot cheaper and look Indie I I liked Indie but it
• 36:54
  wasn't a good movie I'm not going to say it was a good movie it was and the thing
• 36:58
  is I know it wasn't because this week I watched a couple of really good movies
• 37:02
  and in fact Matt one of them was on your recommendation because I went watch Jack
• 37:06
  Reacher and it is [ __ ] great it's good movie and I hadn't seen it I'd seen
• 37:10
  the shitty Sequel and I also watched that again this week and it's very [ __ ]
• 37:15
  still enjoyed it I still enjoyed it but man tonally it's it's not even remotely
• 37:20
  cinema cinema it's it's basically like a straight to DVD sequel different
• 37:26
  director um completely different tone weird
• 37:30
  editing weird pacing really just not as
• 37:33
  good but yeah that Jacker is dead set good movie Again movie couldn't trim
• 37:40
  anything out of there's no fat on that movie you know interesting main
• 37:44
  character interesting plot interesting villain is it played by the same person or is it
• 37:50
  yeah Tom Cruz again okay yeah so that's the only thing that carries over and uh
• 37:54
  KOB at the start it comes up a Tom Cruz
• 37:57
  film of the sequel ah so maybe it's that whole thing where Tom Cruz got his hands
• 38:04
  on it a little bit more call
• 38:07
  the yeah um I watched another good good movie this week too and this is an old
• 38:13
  one I just I'll just shout it out um do you guys remember The Thomas Crown
• 38:17
  Affair yeah with from the9 yeah so I reckon you could you
• 38:22
  could if you tacked on a [ __ ] title sequence onto this you could just say
• 38:28
  this was a James Bond movie because this is he's as much playing James Bond in
• 38:32
  this as as in any of his Bond movies it's just a great movie original concept
• 38:38
  I mean know it's a remake before you write in but an original concept um you
• 38:44
  know just just a solid story again 90 minutes here are the stakes here's the
• 38:50
  protagonist here's the Ant And as here's the conclusion bam wasn't that good like
• 38:55
  there's no excuse for for all these I mean I know it's easy to rag on
• 39:00
  superhero movies at the moment but just like you come out of so many of them you
• 39:04
  go that was fine I guess but like yeah they're all the same now yeah like
• 39:10
  literally they're all the same now that's James gun said that the problem
• 39:13
  is that they're all just saying the same [ __ ] what they should have done for the
• 39:18
  Marvel ones is just endgame stopped
• 39:25
  yeah I love game but I'll never watch it again not cuz I'm boycotting but it's
• 39:30
  just not the kind of it's just got no replayability like what was what was the
• 39:34
  one before endgame um Infinity War Infinity War yeah yeah like it was also
• 39:39
  good I couldn't tell you what happened in that one as opposed to endgame like
• 39:43
  it was just the conclusion to a very long Saga as Luke said it was a very
• 39:47
  very good ending walk away I think the problem we've got now is a lot of the
• 39:52
  actors that we know they're all sort of moving on retiring so they all a lot of
• 39:56
  movies now are he's going to be who's going to be the new person and that and
• 40:00
  that and that and I'm I I think that's where it's struggling bit so if they had
• 40:03
  have stopped and then just start again pick a new don't startop V man startop
• 40:07
  with a different one and pick a new storyline and just play it out
• 40:11
  again well James Gunner said that is what he's doing with Superman yeah
• 40:16
  because people got confused which is fair because he is continuing over some
• 40:21
  actors in roles but the character will be reset so even though it's the same
• 40:26
  person as a character don't don't you know for example I think margar Robbie
• 40:30
  may still be Harley Quinn none of the films you've seen are relevant they
• 40:35
  don't exist I can sort of see that because she is good at Harley Quinn
• 40:39
  yeah's and she's enjoying doing that makes money
• 40:43
  too gal may stay or may not she you know they'll probably get a feeling for how
• 40:50
  people feel say that but I think Wonder
• 40:54
  Woman 2 the second one yeah was the
• 40:58
  third biggest money loser after the
• 41:02
  Flash and one other all of the superhero movies I guess depends on that whether
• 41:08
  that's her fault or or his perception I just don't think she's as big a draw as
• 41:13
  no I don't think that's her fault it's that movie was sort of set which didn't
• 41:18
  quite make sense because remember like when she was first introduced it's hey
• 41:21
  you haven't been around since like World War I and there oh except for this time
• 41:24
  in the 80s where you were running around doing all this stuff like
• 41:28
  itas on you and stuff yeah and even though they did try to go oh she broke
• 41:33
  them so it's fine it's it's really come on I didn't mind that movie I'll say I
• 41:38
  didn't mind it the second one I Haven seen it yeah I thought the second one
• 41:41
  was better than the first one because I thought the first one took itself way
• 41:44
  too seriously for what it was and the second one knew it was garbage and just
• 41:48
  went let's just be cheesy and cam maybe I should watch it well the reason people
• 41:52
  were asking James G about this is because the news came out about the rest
• 41:56
  of the cast for Superman man including um yes uh [ __ ] him I can't think of his
• 42:02
  name Nathan fillian Nathan fillian as the green lanon yeah what I I knew it
• 42:08
  was K you know Green lanon L he is Luke and then everybody
• 42:13
  was like hang on a minute he's already in Suicide Squad as that character and
• 42:18
  then James was like no no no yeah none of that exists anymore we're rebooting
• 42:25
  he even said you could watch no they've made it and they've said you
• 42:29
  can watch this without having seen season one or the movie and it doesn't
• 42:33
  make the slightest difference but don't know mate just a
• 42:39
  different Adventure this is not helping James and what also is not helping is
• 42:45
  we're still getting the Joker Sequel and we're the Batman
• 42:48
  sequel oh yeah good point the Robert patson one and isn't the Joker one a
• 42:55
  musical yes apparently it makes sense
• 43:00
  somehow well I think Luke had a good theory that if it's set in a mental
• 43:06
  institution could be some kind of
• 43:11
  extended not dream hallucination or you
• 43:15
  know um psychotic
• 43:20
  episode but like that the thing that concerns me is they say it's like a
• 43:25
  we've heard it's going to be musical which is the difference between a
• 43:28
  musical and being a musical scene true except that they've cast lady gagar yeah
• 43:34
  I'm know she's done some acting but I know she was in like American Horror
• 43:39
  Story i' never saw it was she any good in that I didn't see that but I saw I
• 43:43
  stopped watching American Horror Story before was born yeah I heard she was
• 43:48
  that movie that they keep making every 20 years yeah
• 43:52
  yeah it was very good it was very very good actually like if you just was good
• 43:57
  in it yeah yeah but she played like a pop star but it's not like she had to
• 44:04
  act you know what I mean I mean no that's I don't mean to be uh diminishing
• 44:09
  but but she was playing like a stretch for as a role
• 44:15
  sort of thing yeah doesn't mean she doesn't mean yeah Anyan doesn't require
• 44:19
  she was perfectly convincing that she's familiar with how to behave that way
• 44:23
  yeah yeah yeah yeah one more movie news I wanted to talk about before we move on is that
• 44:29
  people are apparently loving Oppenheimer I saw the trailer before Indie last
• 44:33
  night and it reminded me that I really can't wait to see this movie I might go
• 44:37
  and see it this Wednesday if it's
• 44:42
  out no it won't be oh wait what day it is yeah it is it does come out next week
• 44:46
  comes out the 20th um that's exciting I am sick of
• 44:52
  hearing that there's a rivalry between this and the Barbie movie because there
• 44:56
  really isn't are you you really think that people were the same audience were
• 45:00
  going oh [ __ ] I was going to go see Oppenheimer but the Barbie movies out as
• 45:04
  well like surely this is two completely different demographics I am going to go
• 45:08
  see the Barbie movie so H and I have discussed that maybe we'll go to the
• 45:12
  movies at the same time and then she'll go into Barbie and I'll go into
• 45:16
  Oppenheimer yeah from what I've seen is there sort of saying people saying like
• 45:20
  if you love Barbie you'll love this movie if you don't like Barbie you'll
• 45:24
  love this movie I don't know anything about Barbie mean you is there a law is
• 45:29
  there like is it just um um you you know the law of Barbie there's Barbie and
• 45:34
  there's K Ken yeah yeah there do seem to be some jokes about that in the film are
• 45:40
  they gonna is there gonna be a joke about him not having a dick because
• 45:42
  that's literally all I know about Ken that's all I know about Ryan goling
• 45:48
  he doesn't have a dick but like what the whole movie seen
• 45:53
  Dick they get sucked into the real world and then they have to deal with that is
• 45:58
  that what it is oh great great so it's it's Masters of the Universe from 1985 all over
• 46:04
  again a Mattel property and I am hoping
• 46:08
  I'm I'm almost ready tobie starring the great Frank lella
• 46:15
  Frank don't tell me what I can and can't touch lella skor
• 46:21
  um we need to support the Barbie movie because it's just occurred to me that Mattel own
• 46:27
  also own He-Man and we want them to think that their old 80s properties are
• 46:32
  worth money now and there are rumors about that happening please please do
• 46:37
  and we want a good He-Man movie because we got screwed over the first time
• 46:41
  really did I don't know what you're talking about that He-Man movie from the
• 46:44
  80s is awesome man even I was like six years old and loved He-Man went and saw
• 46:48
  that I'm like this isn't He-Man I liked it I don't know what you guys are
• 46:52
  talking about was nothing I I was to say when he going I know He-Man the C and I
• 46:57
  went in this has nothing to do with he it might be a good movie but it's not
• 47:01
  about He-Man not He-Man I knew I think when I was a kid I was just happy to
• 47:05
  watch anything yeah um Oppenheimer yeah people have
• 47:11
  been R about it last week everyone came out and and started talking about the
• 47:15
  prolonged nudity and I don't know what that is but yeah I'm I can't wait to
• 47:20
  find out yeah same yeah also prolonged just means it goes for a long time like
• 47:26
  people are like [ __ ] how graphic is this like well probably not that graphic
• 47:32
  for a long time yeah zoom in on Killian Murphy's dick do we know what type of
• 47:38
  nudity yeah I think as as the explosion
• 47:42
  happens he becomes rigid
• 47:48
  yeah and it just bursts through his PS and because every time he thinks about
• 47:53
  it he also he gets erected and because half the movie is from his subjective
• 47:57
  point of view it's just a comes in and he says when he talking about this bomb
• 48:01
  and he's like go on excuse me I've just
• 48:07
  come do we we didn't talk about this and we don't need to go on about it because
• 48:11
  I don't want to be creepy but I could I saw an article about this Jennifer
• 48:15
  Lawrence comedy that she just she spends like a whole scene nude in it oh like
• 48:22
  and she just literally just got a gear off because at this point everybody's
• 48:25
  seen her naked on the internet what's it I don't know
• 48:30
  um just typ in Jennifer laen this is the one that's based off
• 48:35
  um it's called she's no hard feelings so I think an erection
• 48:41
  pun I think the idea of this movie is there there's an add in newspaper for
• 48:47
  come and take my son's virginity before he goes to UNI type of thing and she's
• 48:52
  the one who comes to take it or she's the mom I think that's it
• 48:57
  on the brink of losing her childhood home A desperate woman agrees to date a
• 49:00
  wealthy couple's introverted and awkward 19-year-old H and apparently yeah
• 49:05
  there's just scene where she was just like yeah no ways I'll just did the
• 49:07
  whole scene naked and W you see everything everything don't want be
• 49:13
  weird by like yeah I mean you are right
• 49:17
  she get very publicized during the so-called fappening yeah but uh I just
• 49:24
  not would that doesn't mean that I mean all actresses are like well [ __ ] it now
• 49:27
  I guess I'm just nude from now on that's what I'm saying though it just that that
• 49:30
  doesn't happen so much usually what happens is cu actually the I watched
• 49:34
  this uh Witch is season 3 first half that's out and uh one thing that that
• 49:39
  everyone's been noting first of all everyone's complaining about something
• 49:41
  that happens in it we don't need to talk about it yet I assume you guys haven't seen
• 49:45
  it I'll just finish season two got watch actual kiss in it that that's apparently
• 49:51
  outraged all the [ __ ] knobs on the internet I mean is it one of the openly
• 49:54
  homosexual characters like it's a character who should anyone there two
• 49:59
  characters who in the books are not which is why they're saying that they're
• 50:05
  it's it's why it's why people are saying they're upset correct yes it's the
• 50:09
  reason they're upset but the other thing is that there's no nudity in it which is
• 50:14
  the other thing that people mention and only because and this
• 50:20
  is the kind of the with um Amelia Clark
• 50:25
  of Thrones season one everybody's naked season two they're all
• 50:29
  big celebrities nobody say can they yeah
• 50:33
  and me more so many naked extras right
• 50:38
  season later Seasons no naked main cast so that's why it just surprised me that
• 50:44
  someone with the the profile of Jennifer Lawrence is just like sure whatever in a
• 50:48
  comedy yeah like not in a Ser pretty sure there was a paycheck with
• 50:54
  it it's not it's kind of movie budget movie that's what I'm saying it's just
• 51:00
  anyway we don't have to go on about it it's just I have something for I'm gonna go a
• 51:04
  movies this Wednesday should I seeies should I see no hard feelings or
• 51:09
  should I see Transformers rise of the beasts or Oppenheimer or
• 51:14
  Barbie's not out yet
• 51:17
  I'm let's just leave it at that
• 51:25
  yeah care for sh abff it's called rise of the Beast and that's what he calls
• 51:30
  his dick yeah sh is not sh's not back though is he sh sh doesn't get hired for
• 51:36
  anything anymore he couldn't possibly be in his Transformers after no no no no
• 51:41
  would thought is it still Marky Mark or is he also on theis who's who's in these now no
• 51:47
  humans a cartoon it I don't know who it is anymore I think they're just going
• 51:54
  with someone who will make into star bring back wson Wells he when when he
• 51:59
  left the franchise Elena Wallace wait is this act which is the
• 52:05
  actor's name and which is the character's name I don't know these any
• 52:08
  of these people I can't determine which is the actor's name and which is it's a
• 52:11
  movie for young people we're not the target okay that's the character's name
• 52:14
  Anthony Ramos Dominique Fishback Luna Lauren VES Dean Scott
• 52:19
  Vasquez I don't know who these people are I like the Bumblebee
• 52:24
  movie I didn't see that I actually tried it because it was a bit
• 52:30
  different to see it so maybe these people are celebrities
• 52:34
  we just don't know that's what I mean very popular but not
• 52:40
  demographic oh God that happens look there's only a few more minutes left uh in the main
• 52:47
  show so we should go back switch back to Indie because I'm desperate to hear what
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  you thought of the ending did you fly into it about
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  spoilers we're GNA do spoilers the rest of the show just turn it off now just
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  turn it off or go to patreon.com multiple nerdgasm if you want more get
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  pay 10 bucks moreo more in we're gonna talk about another movie in the
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  Afterparty because I wantan to movie called about this sound of
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  freedom and if you want to hear about that sounds like an American movie M
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  sounds like a movie yeah well the reason I talk to you is there's a bit
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  controversy on it and I'm curious as to whether this is just an American thing
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  or if the whole world is concerned about this well we don't know about this an
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  American Americans take things very seriously especially things that have
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  the word freedom in the title so let's come back to that put a pin in.com multiple
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  nasm but Indie so they really jumped the shark and went with time travel I can't
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  believe it Luke was right this whole time Luke called it months ago that this
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  would be about time travel I can't was at the same time travel that I was thinking
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  but about how this time works when they explained it I was like oh okay yeah
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  same but I've still got questions so where do we want to
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  start so let's sum up let's sum up what what the movie the movie's about they
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  trying to find this dial that Arians built dial of Destiny
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  which Pres assume is something that finds like time
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  temp space time that can help you travel
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  through time yes yeah and Ms migon wants
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  to go back to 1939 just before the war to assassinate
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  Hitler so that somebody better than Hitler can do the wartime stuff because
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  he knows has taken extensive notes on all the mistakes that were made and he
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  will do it correctly and he actually one of the things he actually does says in
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  the movie like America didn't win the ballit lost it lost and he says it in
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  that great scene that Matt referenced before where he's basically just like
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  chewing out this black delivery guy just for
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  existing yeah Prime Nazi example yeah that's right
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  um and so he wants to do that and then because of either one of two things that
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  happen that's not where they end up
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  going right because when they're on their way to do that Indie I guess
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  either figures out or he knew at some point that Archimedes existed in a time
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  before they had learned about continental drift and so that actually
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  over the thousands of years in between the locations are wrong but that
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  actually meant nothing then that wasn't the reason that wasn't right because
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  made it so that anyone would come back to him
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  he made it what I'm confused why did they have that entire thing about
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  continental drift because in my head like you Matt that was still what was
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  the problem because I was like what a [ __ ] coincidence then that they ended
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  up at this one spot yeah no that was I think that was more so J trying to think
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  of like don't do it don't go back talk out of try and talk him out of it I
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  don't think yeah because convoluted it messed it up it made it way too messy
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  yeah and I know I've talked about this on the podcast before they lost left an
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  opportunity on the table as well I felt because when they find aredes he's
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  wearing a watch and they go that's weird he takes the watch off mads melson's
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  character later on and I was thinking what they should have done what I would
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  have done is had he that had mads Mickelson take the watch from Archimedes
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  pop it on go through the thing Archimedes takes it off him pops it on yeah
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  yeah yeah exactly because I was like that would been cool
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  yeah um I also
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  think I don't know I I was expecting it to be Indy's watch not ma melson's watch
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  too like that also just would have made more of a connection for me
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  if they had the same watch on you know what I mean like it would just it would
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  would be a also rumors that they reshot the ending and I have a sneaking
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  suspicion that originally Indie did stay there and that was how end he was just
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  in time um and then somebody went you know we keep saying we're not going to
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  do another one but let's be honest maybe we will so we don't want him to
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  literally oh I do there something else we have can confirm mut is dead he's
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  dead yeah worried we were gonna bring him back at the end and actually I realized
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  thinking about it today that's not off the table because Indie still has the
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  dial at the end yes but the dial only
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  goes to one place it does it yes well we we don't know
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  that they're making a lot of so here's the thing I think the thing is that see
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  this is the problem it's that it's too convoluted but I think the problem I
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  think the the the gimmick is the dial can point to any Fisher that can take
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  you to any time except Archimedes made that that one always points to him yes
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  but if you if you hacked it somehow you can go change it because yeah he he it
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  was it was it was a device to get people to come and help yes yeah now you
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  mentioned because they have that whole scene where where Phoebe wallbridge is
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  doing the magic trick to force the card so that later she can use that as a way
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  to kind of get the audience to wrap their heads around what the [ __ ] we're
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  talking about yeah where a forced hand and then but then I actually didn't get
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  the impression that that was definite I think I thought she was just like maybe
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  that's how this works I got the feeling it was
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  a this is the problem is find where India says I see what you've done you've
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  you've this was a call for help to bring people back here to help you and he says
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  yes that was given way less weight in the film than the scene about
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  continental drift yes which is why we all left going well hold
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  on yeah remove that it was unnecessary
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  well there's a lot of fluff to be honest in it we could have done without
• 59:32
  honestly I could have done without all of that stuff about her fiance or
• 59:35
  whatever it was like oh yeah that didn't need to be there her little short round
• 59:39
  very cute also just could have written him out of the whole mie I think that
• 59:42
  her short round was better than the CIA
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  agent they through she
• 59:50
  was there was that they killed her off and there was there was no point to her
• 59:55
  but you move heard nothing changes the whole middle of the movie could have
• 59:58
  been trimmed down by like an hour honestly so you guys want to hear the
• 1:00:03
  best suggestion ever so I I saw this movie with with list Grant
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  right when M melson announced that his
• 1:00:14
  plan his evil dusted plan was to go back in time you think he's gonna go back and
• 1:00:20
  help him for most of the movie and then he says oh no no I'm gonna kill yeah yeah yeah
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  Grant thought and this is [ __ ] genius Grant thought that that meant Indie
• 1:00:31
  would have to go back in time to save Hitler's life so that the future will
• 1:00:37
  continue the way it has that should have been the ending and when he told me that
• 1:00:42
  we were walking out and he was like you know what I thought was going to happen
• 1:00:45
  and he said that I was like well that's what should have [ __ ] happened
• 1:00:48
  imagine that imagine the irony in that I don't think they're going to make a
• 1:00:52
  movie where Indiana Jones goes back in time to SA unless unless
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  refused because they did make that movie and one day we'll get to see it
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  Spielberg was in daes and went is he is he saving
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  Hitler I should have read this that was sign really should to the
• 1:01:16
  end that would have been great have a feeling that's not the
• 1:01:22
  case um that scene where Salah drives Indie to the airport and goes I've
• 1:01:28
  brought my I've brought my passport because I'd actually like to come on
• 1:01:30
  this adventure with you and's like no no he's actually come out and said like he
• 1:01:36
  feels like he was underutilized and he would have yeah I think that was all
• 1:01:39
  aded I think it was like well Alo Sol comes along right
• 1:01:44
  yeah cuz that s doesn't make any sense right from a movie passort yeah that was
• 1:01:51
  John re Davies out of character going if you guys are going to [ __ ] J
• 1:01:57
  I can come with you but it sort of would have made sense to take him yeah it
• 1:02:01
  would have yeah I do love that he at first I laugh because he's a cab driver
• 1:02:05
  in New York now and I was like come on but then he explains he actually says oh
• 1:02:10
  this is IND who brought us here you know during the war yeah I was
• 1:02:16
  like New York than a successful person in like
• 1:02:21
  yeah Middle East yeah yeah yeah I was like that's a bit knows and then and
• 1:02:26
  then oh no actually that that follows people on the internet going who is he
• 1:02:30
  still having kids like I'm pretty sure they were his grandkids right yes yeah I
• 1:02:34
  think he even says does yeah he says his daughter lets him watch something on TV
• 1:02:41
  I forget what that's right yeah yeah no I loved that I loved all of that I
• 1:02:45
  thought it was nice even at the end the the the schaly ending where spoilers
• 1:02:49
  Karen AR comes back in um it made me
• 1:02:52
  very like sad honestly in a way because
• 1:02:57
  I was like it was too real yeah yeah because just because it's it's Indiana
• 1:03:02
  Jones and then this is this is how his story ends yeah because also in Crystal
• 1:03:09
  Skull which is it's Cannon right he gets fired from his university job where he's
• 1:03:14
  like a 10e professor and now he's working at just some Community College
• 1:03:19
  you know like it's it's it's a real downhill slope and like and then Karen
• 1:03:24
  Allen comes in and I mean you know Karen Allen in the
• 1:03:28
  80s yeah Karen Allen now it's like it's just not come on what what I mean is
• 1:03:34
  it's just not he's an 80-year old man he doesn't want it to be no no I I'm GNA
• 1:03:38
  say I felt like she aged a lot between it's not the same like it just
• 1:03:44
  doesn't feel as like like handsome man and the Beautiful Woman it's kind of
• 1:03:49
  like look at these old people living in that apartment
• 1:03:53
  like anymore no fortune Glory just he just
• 1:03:58
  lives his neighbors with the baseball bat to turn thep when he puts the magnet over her
• 1:04:05
  face on the fridge and then in the end when she is there he just casually slips it back
• 1:04:10
  off so good but also it really when you
• 1:04:15
  watch Raiders now like she is the love of his life yeah and I mean that because
• 1:04:20
  like first off he molested her as a child so we know that happened she was
• 1:04:24
  14 years old yeah then they had that Affair again when they were 20 something
• 1:04:29
  and and and that that ended and then in the flashbacks sequences he has pictures
• 1:04:34
  of her so we know that he's kept her on his mind like so we've seen him in these
• 1:04:39
  20s 30s and 40s and now 50s and 60s you
• 1:04:42
  know what I mean like she's the one I I wasn't [ __ ] on her I was just no I'm
• 1:04:49
  not defending I'm just saying like don't look 20 forever Matt end of the Last
• 1:04:54
  Crusade into theer right yeah like more adventures and that wasend perfect
• 1:05:00
  ending yeah and more Adventures they right off literally right off into the
• 1:05:03
  sunset but then now no he that movie is literally called The Last Crusade yeah
• 1:05:09
  alone and then those kids are gonna find him when they smell him two weeks
• 1:05:14
  later I just yeah it just made me go okay yeah well um why was watching that
• 1:05:21
  uh follow-up series to Sex in the City
• 1:05:24
  which also you forget right
• 1:05:28
  yeah the moment they're elderly women and it's depressing because like if
• 1:05:34
  you've I mean I've seen the odd episode of Sex in the City I know it's about
• 1:05:37
  young women partying in New York City yeah they have cocktails they've
• 1:05:41
  all got great jobs and good romances and one night stands and stuff these are
• 1:05:45
  just old women sad old women like it's
• 1:05:49
  really depressing yeah I don't know why you'd want to watch that but then again
• 1:05:54
  we just watched IND version of it so yeah and like not to say yeah I don't
• 1:06:00
  know I don't know how would his story end obviously it's just it's just odd to
• 1:06:05
  see it you know and it's almost like do we need this we definitely didn't and
• 1:06:11
  they didn't the studio thought they were gonna make some money and they really
• 1:06:14
  didn't but at the end of the day I enjoyed it no no I did enjoy it it just
• 1:06:20
  I'm I'm happy we got it we didn't need it said shab buff was dead without even
• 1:06:25
  giving him so much as a cameo or flashback was it was like in [ __ ]
• 1:06:32
  that last James Bond when they're like blow f n he's dead mate he is could have
• 1:06:35
  been worse the way that he tells it when he gets he gets upset and he's like
• 1:06:40
  choking up saying it I was like okay all right at least you did it not in true
• 1:06:45
  but didn't you get a sense of that remember Homer Simpson's dog character
• 1:06:48
  in inchie and Scratchy in The Simpsons then everyone hated and yeah and he's he
• 1:06:53
  died and and then it's like the the studio will promise that he will never
• 1:06:57
  return like that's what it seemed like on his way to his home planet it did
• 1:07:02
  sound like it was like a throwaway line at the start where it's like like when
• 1:07:06
  they're trying to sort of frame him for the murders that he's from his wife and
• 1:07:10
  his son just died and then then they actually went into like well you change
• 1:07:15
  time was nice and yeah yeah yeah
• 1:07:18
  yeah okay well so yeah I really enjoyed the scene at the end towards the end
• 1:07:25
  when they they got to the plane and everybody popped on their Nazi uniforms
• 1:07:29
  cuz I was like yeah like that hey that's quite funny because but then of course
• 1:07:34
  they thought they were going 1939
• 1:07:38
  right you guys all kept those you guys had those this whole time yeah amazing
• 1:07:43
  you didn't put on any weight I I jacket I had 20 years ago I think they they
• 1:07:50
  looked fresh like that that was new material they got them freshly made some
• 1:07:53
  of those people how would they have to wear them so I don't know I mean they were some of
• 1:07:58
  those people were Americans so presumably it was like disguised to a
• 1:08:02
  degree but yeah just made me laugh you're right I got a [ __ ] jacket
• 1:08:05
  tailored for my wedding just before I left a NY jacket really and it doesn't
• 1:08:10
  fit me now um any Nazis in the sound of Freedom
• 1:08:17
  Matt came to hear the controversy over this movie well let's head to the after
• 1:08:20
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