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One Piece, 348 & 349 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering One Piece
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episodes three forty eight, three forty nine, and three fifty Appearing from the
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Sky, That Man is the Humming Swordsman, Lufy's emergency situation, the Ultimate
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Shadows Destination, and the Warrior known as the Devil the moment of Oars Arrival.
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In these episodes, we find out exactly how the whole deal works with
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taking somebody's shadow away, and it turns out that I was like a little
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bit right and also a little bit wrong in terms of how that works.
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I'm still a little bit confused. I'm going to ask for clarification. Welcome
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to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank
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you very much to the One Piece crew for commissioning this episode. I had
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to push back for personal reasons involving the puppies yet again, so I appreciate
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everybody's being patient on that. I really do. And I also wanted to
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mention really quickly Florian had gotten in touch about doing some more Wannabe episodes,
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and I have gotten bookings that block that time from being available because it's a
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little bit like more work to set up. It's more work to edit,
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and we want to talk for longer than an hour usually, But because I
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am dealing with having to pay for these puppies treatments, I am thinking that
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I may just like add some extra time to a day or two here and
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there. So if you want to get in touch, I mention message this
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to you as well, Florian. I won't have any openings to do that
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until July, but I think you're like booked into July anyway, so it
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won't be that much of a weight. So just we'll figure something out.
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But you just need to get the dates straight when those have when you want
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to have them. So okay, talking about these episodes we are, I'm
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really enjoying these still. I really enjoy their being like more lore. I'm
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not like a huge, huge fan of Lore as a rule, like that
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can be a thing that certain people just get boners for really hard, and
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it's the sort of thing where I appreciate they're being like rules, but I
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don't really get too into the weeds on it because they're you know, there's
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a reason this summarily and this like is there are folks out there who just
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want to know every little thing and I find it kind of fascinating the way
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that people get caught up in, especially like fictional histories. But that said,
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this universe is it's got its own lore for sure, but it also
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will kind of like throw everything into the air occasionally, and the addition of
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new lure is sometimes like quite confusing. For example, Loofy going to like
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gear two and Gear three we saw that back at Ennis Lobby. We haven't
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seen it since it's not really explained well why he's able to do it,
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And that whole thing felt really like I'm putting it out there because I want
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to be able to use this later, but I don't have it fully thought
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out yet. There's just a feel and I don't That may not necessarily be
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true, but the sense of it is extremely disorganized to me, and just
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kind of feels like it was poorly outlined on purpose so that they could go
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in whatever direction they sort of felt like later on, this is some lore
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that feels really direct. It's explained, and it's like, yeah, a
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lot of exposition, and I could see like some people getting a little bit
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irritated by that. Exposition. Is one of those things where a lot of
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critics and a lot of viewers will get really kind of snotty about having to
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include exposition in just like dialogue. There are times where I agree, but
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I am also somebody who really prefers to be working with as much information as
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I can, so I find it takes more or to irritate me in that
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department than it does the average person. So yeah, this whole like deal
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with the Shadows gets explained in a step by step way, with questions being
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asked and answered in a way that I just really appreciated because I was wondering
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a lot of these same things and not really getting what was you know.
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So it's a sort of a rare thing and the show will just drop stuff
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sometimes not explain it, and then they'll circle back ages later to explain it.
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I do appreciate this being explained within the same arc that it's happening in,
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you know what I'm saying. So, okay, appearing from the sky
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we are, Oh my god, you guys fucking Funnimation. Ugh. But
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I just had like the correct episode loaded it was, and then I just
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jumped into Funimation again and it's just like, first of all, not only
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have we jumped to the next episode, but we have gone to the very
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end of it, so it's almost over. So this the way that we
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start off. We had just left last time with Robin showing off that she
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can fly with the spider monkey falling off the bridge, and you know,
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all of our friends are like in this extremely sensitive position when we see a
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dude dropping down from the sky and I was like, I feel like that's
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a brook But what the hell is going on? And we see that it
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is indeed Brooke, but the whole vibe is surprising. So let's start off
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with some things here, because you all know that I have to address what
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we've got going on with Nami. The thing with Nami and Lola, the
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pig, the bore, the hog, whatever they call her. Nami protests
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that Lola has nothing to worry about regarding her and absalom because she is actually
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a man cross dressing, and you know what, you know, I don't
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love this. I just don't like the very fact that it's like, oh,
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well, you know, I'm a guy cross dressing, so obviously I'm
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not a romantic possibility is already just like but maybe you still are though,
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like why not? And also the fact that I was kind of failing relieved
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when this goes on and mostly focuses on Lola being relieved and what she's been
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trying to do to like capture Absalom, And it didn't seem like we were
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going to get any further transphobic jokes or anything. But then there's a moment
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where we're in Topper's head and he thinks to himself, no wonder she looks
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so manly, which is just one of those things that's like, there's this
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whole thing with transphobes where they really think that they can quote tell that somebody
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is trans, and it has led to this policing of the bodies of SIS
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women as well, because they're SIS women who fall well outside the lines of
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what we have decided is actually feminine, and so people will just jump down
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the throats of any woman who doesn't fall within those guidelines and accuse her of
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being trans when they're like completely incorrect. So it just goes to show how
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like blurred the lines with gender actually are because appearance varies wildly, and just
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because somebody doesn't fall within your ideal doesn't mean that like you can tell anything
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about the rest of who they are or how they were born or anything.
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And it's just really like tedious that we have this moment of like, oh
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yeah, I can see it, and the irony of it being that he
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is saying that and we know Nami is lying, so he's doing the very
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thing of like I could I could tell, No, you couldn't, Like
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people can't just stop it, you know. And it also like even if
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you can't tell that somebody is trans, fucking literally so what like so what
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you know, there's so much pressure on trans people to pass and be undetectable,
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and you you know, we're putting the same like gross misogynist expectations on
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trans women so that they get to be fucking miserable and self conscious about the
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same ships as women are. Oh yay, what it's delightful gift, Like
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we would also like to be free of this. So can we please do
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our transistors a favor and not put them up to the same standard that we
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also are fucking sick of and don't want to be held up to anymore?
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Can we just not have this be a thing anymore? It's the same as
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like seeing masculinity as being a neutral and so anybody whose non binary is expected
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to perform like more masculinity in their androgyny than femininity, because androgyny almost is
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never particularly feminine, you know, it tends to be coded as very men
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skill in. And so there's a lot of nonbinary people as well who feel
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like they have to like perform this particular look for folks to believe that they
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are nonbinary, and it's maybe just not their look. Man, maybe that's
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just not there esthetic and that's fine. So anyway, you know, I
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have to address that. But I was really grateful that comment from Chopper seems
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to be it. And I don't know if it's going to come up later
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because I have to assume it will. But in these three episodes, that's
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the last of the commentary we get on the Nami is actually a man joke,
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and from here on we have Nami pretending to be friends with Lola and
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like encouraging her to be more aggressive with Absalom. I loved this so much.
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There is no quicker way to my heart than having two male characters who
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are at each other's throats suddenly become friends. And this is a big favorite
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of mine. With a crazy ex girlfriend by the way. But even though
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it's fake, you know, I know Namie is just doing this so that
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this maniac bore zombie creature doesn't try to murder her anymore. It's still just
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kind of heartwarming, Like I just really enjoyed getting to see this creature,
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who obviously is quite lonely, be like connecting with Nami and trying to get
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advice from her and attempt to be vulnerable with her in a way. Namie
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tells her like, you should totally hook up. You were made for each
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other. You see Lola's sword just hit the ground. And then we get
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Lola and she's like, nobody has ever offered me a single word of encouragement
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this whole time. You don't know how much it means. And when I
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love this so much. When Nami stands up and introduces herself, she calls
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herself Nami Zo, I think. But she holds out her hand and in
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Lola's eyes, she's like surrounded by sparkles and in really sort of like fogging
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lighting, and she says something. Lola says, I'll hug him so hard
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that I almost crack his ribs and he'll just be like whatever about it.
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And I don't know why the I think the transition for this voice actor is
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killing me so bad, because Lola has had all such exaggerated dialogue. It's
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been a lot of screaming, a lot of gruffness under her voice to sort
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of emphasize her fearsomeness and how aggressive she's being. And then all of a
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sudden, this scene with Nami. She sounds like Robin. She sounds like
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the same voice actress, and I'm not sure it is, but it is.
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It doesn't sound like the same person, And I just find that really
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funny and sweet. And I love seeing us Up and Chopper off to the
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side, watching the two of them have a conversation and be very nonplussed about
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it. I do enjoy too, Chopper like buying into the fact that Nami
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is a man, and Usup looking at Chopper and just saying, are you
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kidding me? Like he can't believe us Up is falling for or can't believe
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Chopper's falling for it, which is wild because us Up tends to be just
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as gullible as Chopper. But I think it's supposed to be. Unfortunately that
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he got a really really good look at Nami in the shower and he has
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no doubts on you know, that front whatever. But yeah, this uh,
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this bit is very like amusing the two of them under this giant parasol,
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just gossiping about Absalom and us up hadn't even been sure it was going
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to work, and seeing how kind of flawless this is. They're under this
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parasol by the way, guys, because they're sitting at like a cafe table
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with a little parasol on the on the top, and Lola's head is like
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mashed up underneath the parasol and like moving it around every time she turns her
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head. It's really funny. I just there this whole scene like transphobic jokes
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aside. I really liked the direction this went because I didn't see it coming
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that they were going to be able to like kind of weirdly be buddies.
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And y'all know that Absalom is just such a total creepster and I hate him
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so much that there being this creature that's coming at him the way he's coming
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at Nami is extremely gratifying to me. So I'm just into it and I
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love her saying. Nami says to us Up, she's not such a bad
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girl. You just have to get to know her a bit, but when
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she turns and looks at him, she's got the Barry signs in her eyes.
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So she was trying to question Lola about like where the treasure might be
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in the castle. We don't really see any of that conversation, and I'm
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assuming based on the way that she looks here that she got some info on
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that, but we didn't get to see it. So we'll, you know,
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potentially wind up finding treasure or we'll Nami going off by herself in order
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to track it down, but as of right now, I don't know any
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more about it than I did before. So then we go to Lufy and
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he is kept in this cage. This is the first time that he sees
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what's his face? Help me out, guys, I keep forgetting the name
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of this big bad with the shadow stealing, but he is looming over Lufy,
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and in true form, I appreciate that Lufy has to just immediately be
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like you must eat a lah huh, you're pretty round and isn't intimidated by
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this dude at all, because it's not that Lufy doesn't ever get intimidated,
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it's that he has a really different metric for what causes him to be intimidated
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than other people have. So I will be like, that feels really threatening,
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yikes, and he'll breathe right past that because that's not something he in
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particular needs to worry about. But then something that I'm just like, well,
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yeah, that's sort of how people work. Because he's a child and
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forgets about grown ups and how they work, he will be taken off guard.
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So Geko Moria, thank you, Demi, and Demian says, I
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think the joke here is a continuation of the one where Chopper is both gullible
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and also terrible at identifying people because he isn't human and does not really have
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the brain features used by humans to identify each other. He can't tell that
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Soga King is usap after all. I think that's part of the joke,
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you know, I mean definitely. So this we go to Pirona and she
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is watching them unload their entire ship. Y'all. This was so offensive to
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me, truly crossing a line, like I can't they just got that ship,
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you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's barely been on the sea,
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and the fact that we are already getting completely looted. I am disgusted.
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She in Pirona's like mad because there's not treasure. There was some money
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laying around, but it's not what she was hoping for. And she is
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also a little bit like, if this is the guy who beat Crocodile and
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apparently went up against the world government, you would really think that he would
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have some money on him, Like, I don't get what the deal is
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with being a pirate. If you don't have treasure, that's the point of
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being a pirate, So what's the deal? And she has a bunch of
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bombies unloading, so she's talking to one of them about it, and they
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do have a ton of food, so that's all being unloaded, you guys,
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know how, like completely personally, I take that. Also, I
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can't with the stealing of food, and I am exceptionally irritated already, especially
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considering that I know the food is all just going to be like poured onto
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tables and stuff, because what's her face has this aversion aversion to plates.
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So this is when hild And flies down and says that the boss is calling
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for a meeting of the mysterious three straw hat Loofy has been captured. This
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will be the debut of the nine hundred, and we don't find out what
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the nine hundred is until later, but it turns out spoilers, it is
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a giant basically a giant zombie. And I'm sure there's going to be other
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info we find out about it, but really that's kind of all I need
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to know at this point. It is humongous. And the whole way the
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thing works with like stealing people's shadows is you take their like personality and abilities
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with the shadow. That's what gets sort of pulled out and it gets put
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into a zombie. But the zombie's body is the limitation to the shadows abilities.
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In other words, if you put Zoro's shadow into the body of a
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zombie that was like, not as strong, he wouldn't be able to do
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what he does. We wouldn't see the zombie be able to fully exploit its
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abilities. And thus the stronger the sort of like spirit or consciousness of the
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person that gets their shadow taken, the stronger a body you want to put
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them in. And what this dude, Geko Moriah is thinking is that if
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Luthy has this incredibly high bounty, then he must have a lot of ability.
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So if we put his personality inside of this enormous giant. This will
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be like an unstoppable like killing machine that I can control, which I'm really
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curious because like, I don't I know, we have talked about the abilities
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that people have, like Sanji and Zoro, right, they're both really good
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fighters, but they have neither of them had a devil fruit, so their
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abilities are in the rules of this universe, obtained through constant practice and dedication.
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It is not a magically endowed superpower. So if Lufie's power is via
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devil fruit, does that go with his shadow? Will this giant be able
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to stretch like rubber and have all of the same limitations? Because I feel
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like I don't want that. I feel what for me, it seems as
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if the devil fruit affects people's bodies. It seems to me more than anything
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that their personalities don't necessarily change their goals and their abilities are based on what
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they can do physically. So personally, if I were creating this lore,
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I would think that that wouldn't work. But it's also not super interesting if
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it doesn't work, you know, like I could see just being like,
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well, of course we're going to make it work. We want to see
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weird zombies with the same powers as our friends, Like, that's what we're
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here for. And I get that, you know. And I'm not even
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like saying that I wouldn't that I would side Ie if it turned out that's
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how it worked. I'm just saying, like, there's a difference between doing
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what I think thematically sort of makes sense with the rules and doing what is
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the most fun that, however, you could have some fun with the option
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of it doesn't go with the shadow because Geko Moria is operating with this assumption
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purely that Lufy has this incredibly bounty because of his abilities, and I you
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know, at the time when their bounties were mentioned, I full on thought
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it was just, oh, we're going to turn them in and get the
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money. It didn't occur to me that they were seeing those barry amounts and
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going, oh, well, if it's like that with these guys, then
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they definitely are worth stealing their souls. You know, I didn't even occur
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to me. But if Geko Moria thinks that Lufy is just a powerful person
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and doesn't get how much of it is from devil fruits, and it doesn't
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carry over with the shadow. Seeing this giant with Lufy's personality but not any
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of his devil fruit powers is gonna be really Oh dear, I just realize
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that we have all of the food from the sunny that just got brought ashore.
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I feel like that food isn't long for this world. The amount that
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Lufy can put away in his fucking human body, human ish body is truly
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beyond belief. If he's a giant, then this entire island is about to
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just be eaten. Like, is he gonna want to eat people? Is
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he gonna be able to tell a difference? That's the thing too, is
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like you can take a person's personality and their abilities with their shadow, but
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as much as there is a fraction of them that's sort of left inside,
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it's not fully aware of itself, and so not everything about their personality necessarily
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remains. It's just sort of their driving force. So Zoro's driving force is
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to sword fight, Sanji's driving force is to protect women. Lucy's driving force,
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I really feel like I don't want it to be eating. I want
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it to be to protect his friends. But also I'm not sure if he's
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going to be able to tell whose friends are anymore because everything gets sort of
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foggy. And we also find out that if the body of the people whose
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shadows have been taken, if the body dies, then those people their shadows
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disappear as well. Like the shadow is only sustained by the living being who
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would have been throwing that shadow. And if it disappears, if the body
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is killed and the shadow disappears, the zombies just go limp and just collapse
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and are nothing anymore. They're just husks until you, I guess, put
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another soul into it. I don't know how long you've got before it starts
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to go bad. But this so I found that really interesting because I think
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it's a spider Monkey later who's explaining a lot of this stuff. Or no,
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no, no, it's not Spider Monkey starts like taunting them and telling
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them some things, and then it's Broke eventually, who like really gives them
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the information. And by them, I mean he's mostly talking to Robin and
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Frankie later on about all of this. So the whole deal with the shadows
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and the fact that like people have been separated from them, that has been
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sort of difficult for me. This is what I wanted to ask you guys
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about because we have run into dudes who haven't got their shadows. But from
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what we have seen, taking the shadows supposedly like takes your consciousness with it,
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and yet we've still got guys who are wandering around without their shadows and
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seemed to be them elves still, so is the shadow? Does it just
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take like a copy of your personality and abilities? When it gets taken,
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Initially you get knocked out. That's how we saw a Sangi and Zoro both
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just like on the floor unconscious, and that is a side effect to having
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it removed, just like the shock of it. And then I'm assuming you
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wake up, because these other guys are up and they are awake, and
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they're wandering around trying to find a solution to this problem, and they don't
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have their shadows, but they know what to do to get them back.
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So I guess that we're getting a copy and not a complete removal from the
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original body, which means that eventually our friends are gonna wake up and maybe
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have to fight weird zombie versions of themselves, which would be a real trip.
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I would be down to see that. I'm just saying, so,
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okay, they're they're stealing all the food. I'm very irritated about it.
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Then we have fucking Geka Moria says that he is going to be the King
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of the Pirates, and it's hilarious because you could not have thought of a
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more enraging thing to tell Lufy, the idea that you're going to try and
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take his spot. So it just gets like, we just get this close
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up of Lufy's extremely angry face from behind the helmet because he's still wearing that
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ridiculous armor that's like weirdly oversized, and then we cut away, and I
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really wanted the immediate gratification. We find out later that he's just like,
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yeah, that is not going to be you. But I had sort of
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hoped that he was just going to explode. So we of course have to
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continue with the hide and seek from Absalom. He's wandering around also trying to
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escape Lola, and everybody is running away from Absalom as he's coming close,
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and they just jump into this like open thing and zip it closed, and
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all of a sudden it stands up and it's Kumassy Kumassy the bear whose back
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was unzipped for some reason, and who is apparently hollow, which why not
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sure? You know, like all right, and he was just like sitting
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around playing Cat's Cradle and then like has these people inside him, but nobody
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wants to listen to him. So he's trying to explain to everyone that they
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are inside of him, but he's very slow about like bringing the words.
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He is just not really wanting to like interrupt or draw attention to himself by
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talking beyond when he's allowed, explicitly allowed. So every moment that he begins
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to say it, he gets cut off by somebody, whether it's Pirono or
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Absalom, and winds up just like keeping his mouth shut. And our friends
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are inside him as they are walking to see nine hundred. And I have
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you know, been really pleased throughout all of one piece at the the turn
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that characters who seem to be antagonists have played in becoming eventually, if not
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friends outright, then at least allies in their way. And because Kumassy is
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treated so badly by Pirona, I just really want him to get a little
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bit of his own back, and I would appreciate him switching sides just you
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know, just just a little bit. It doesn't have to be like a
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whole I'm going to join the crew now thing like with Frankie. But I
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would like for him to realize that the people that are inside him, who
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accidentally like jumped into his body and took it over in a way. I
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would like for them to for him to realize, like they're not being as
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mean to him as the people that he serves. But the problem is,
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I don't know how much control Kumbassy has because oh, you know, a
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lot of these things are just being controlled, and Kumascy feels like he is
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he falls a little bit outside of what a lot of the other zombies are
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like, but it's hard for me to tell, so I don't know if
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he is even capable of that, like how much of his own mind he
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has left. Florian says, yeah, you have it kind of right in
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terms of how it works, Sarah from CCS, it's just a copy.
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The initial knockout is just from the shock okay, cool m Florian says,
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this is Oda's way of the invisibility cloak over hearing the Oh yeah, that's
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a good point. That didn't occur to me, Like you're giving me ideas
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now, Florian I've been doing some things in the writing group on Discord where
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I'm posting like prompts for people to write to like exercise they're writing abilities and
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get themselves more in the spirit of writing with a bigger goal in mind.
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And writing a scene like that where you're trying to do an invisibility cloak but
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you're not would be a pretty fun prompt, Like, what's another way that
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you could do that? What's a way that you could be invisible for all
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intents and purposes and get the info that you need without their being the literal
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invisibility cloak. I'm gonna think on that one, Floria, that'd be a
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good prompt. So anyway, this poor guy is just he's just a little
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bit goofy now because he is attempting to contain them. He doesn't want to
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get in trouble by revealing the fact that they're in there, so you know,
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he has the same sort of concerns about their getting caught that they do,
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because I imagine he thinks at the at first he wants to try and
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tell everybody here's what's going on. But because they wind up being part of
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this, like going into the backstage area and seeing nine hundred, I'm pretty
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sure he feels he would be in big, big trouble if they all popped
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out, And so at this point, he's just like ready to save his
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own skin. He doesn't want to fucking have a lecture, so he's just
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going to keep it to himself. So all right, let's go over to
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Frankie and Robin, because they had been, you know, in their bad
36:38
way. She flies away, we had the falling Swordsman, and then Frankie
36:45
is like, well, I don't know where he came from, but I
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guess we have to go and save his ass. And then as they're talking,
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Frankie is still by the way, like hanging off the edge of the
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cliff. Then we get the spider monkey back. And I realized while watching
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it this time the monkeys saying monkey monkey is something that a friend of mine
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used to say all the time in that way. And I don't remember who
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it was, but I was like, why is this ringing a bell?
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And it must have been somebody who watched this show and this like kind of
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got in their head because it was frequent, and I didn't know what the
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hell they were referencing, you know, it was just one of those things.
37:37
So the first time that the monkey says it, I'm just like,
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ah, god, this And then I stopped and I was like, what
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do I mean this? Like so many people do that. That's not a
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thing that people say. And it took me a minute to realize, like,
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oh, okay, that was a thing from somebody within the fandom before
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I understood what it even was. And they said it frequently enough that like,
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probably at least eight years later, I still remember that. But anyway,
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so Frankie is just like, well, I guess we are going to
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have to absolutely beat the shit out of this guy. Keep the spider busy,
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and I'm going to do a whole thing. He says that he's going
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to build a spider smasher. Here's the problem is that there are a lot
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of spiders, and they don't realize that quite yet because they're not all giant
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monkey spiders. They are mouse spiders, spider mice. And there's this moment,
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you guys, where Robin decides that she is going to fight back against
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the spider monkey by making tons of her arms pop out of his face,
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around own his eye and smack him in the eye. Okay, all I
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feel like we have officially crossed the line with what Robin can do. This
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is like horror movie shit. That is so upsetting. I mean it's it's
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because of how small she is in comparison, right, How like can Robin
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change the size of her arms. I'm feeling like her arms come out of
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the spider's face the same size that her arms actually are, but the spider
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is just enormous, so they look tiny, right. I want to make
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sure I've got that right, not that Robin can make tiny versions of her
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arms pop out of things, I think, right. I I'm just curious
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if we know, But you know, it doesn't necessarily matter. I just
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suddenly realized, like, I'm not sure if there's a restriction on that part
40:04
or not. Florian says she grabbed a man's ball. As we've been here,
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I think incorrect. Florian, grabbing a man's balls, especially considering everything
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that was happening, just felt like the right choice. This feels like she
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had to be real cruel and unusual with the way that she was thinking about
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how this was going to work. There's a creativity to this, Like grabbing
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a man's balls, That's that's fucking basic. Amateur shit. You know,
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I love that we have it. It's great, but to a degree,
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it's just like, well, yeah, this with the eye is just it's
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like the thought she had to put into coming up with this. You you,
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she's just basically like, what if my arms were eyelashes? I hate
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it, Sarah fhim says, hey, if you can't do any real damage,
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just caused as much suffering as you can till it leaves you the fuck
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alone. Exactly. That's how like groups of birds work and whatnot. You
41:07
know, they just are like, oh really you think no? And they
41:14
are normal sized arms. Okay, cool. So she has his eye and
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she's like slapping his eyeball and he reaches up to try and stop her,
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but doesn't think about the fact that he's got spider webbing in his hands,
41:35
so he basically webs up both of his own eyes. Which it's just ill,
41:45
just ill to all of this. I hate it. Meanwhile, Frankie
41:50
has decided to make a pair of nunchucks, but he has made each end
41:57
of the nunchuck a piece of pillar from like the building, so it's these
42:06
huge chunks that slam into this thing's head and it's like wondering how the hell
42:14
Frankie is doing this, because it did not quite appreciate how strong Frankie actually
42:19
is. So Frankie is going to town on this guy. It's really funny
42:23
actually, because he's just like beating it into every different direction. And even
42:29
though we see the body like moving out of the way, I think it's
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supposed to be that Frankie is moving so quickly that even as it slides from
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the hit in one direction, that he basically like catches it with the hit
42:44
coming from the opposite direction because he's just moving so quickly. And this creature
42:51
is just like I said, stop it already, and he uses sticky Spidernet
42:57
grabs the nunchucks out of Frankie's hands and is then like, all right,
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so this is what's going to happen now. And this is when he's about
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to summon his guys. Frankie opens the gun in his arm and shoots at
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the guy. Still doesn't kill him, by the way, you know,
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he's suffering. He's very unhappy, but he's not It's not solved. And
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this is when we turn around and see that Robin has been gripped up by
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these mouse spider mice. She apologizes for being careless because it didn't occur to
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her that there would be other spiders around, and she is like tangled up
43:50
in such a way that like when she wiggles to try and get out of
43:53
it, the camera zooms in like her tits and the edge of her skirt,
43:59
and I was just like, I don't know, I feel like this
44:00
scene probably spawned a law of fan fick. So Frankie is running towards her,
44:08
like swearing that he's going to help, and then he gets hit with
44:13
the spider stuff and is glued to the ground. But we find out later
44:17
that this burns really easily, so he's able to get out of it without
44:22
very much trouble due to him being a cyborg and that he has immediate access
44:28
to fire, which most of us would not, so it works out quite
44:30
well for him. But yeah, this spider monkey tells them all that there's
44:37
like I think, he says, another five hundred of these spiders on thriller
44:44
Bark, so I have to imagine we are going to be seeing them again
44:50
pretty soon. This is when Brooke shows up. Brooke with his fucking face,
45:00
with his weird skull face. He says three verse, humming arrow,
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notch slash, and he just closes his sword into its sheath, and we
45:16
see the spider monkey basically scream and a bunch of blood gout up from its
45:23
head, and that is the end of the episode. So now let's go
45:30
to Lufy's emergency situation. I. The whole deal with taking his um what
45:44
do you call it? Taking his shadow is sort of intercut with parts of
45:50
the explanation of what's going on with everybody else, But here we have the
45:55
conversation between Brooke, Robin, and Frankie, and Brooke is like, I
46:02
don't know how to tell you this, but if your friends have already been
46:06
captured, then probably it's too late. And I love Frankie yells at Brooke,
46:12
and Brooke gets very upset at being yelled at, and then he says
46:17
something about how he doesn't want to face such hostility, and he turns around
46:22
and says, because I don't have a face, and then just yells skull
46:25
joke, which truly every time he does one of these it still gets me.
46:32
It still gets me. I really do like it. It's like it's
46:38
by the mere fact of him irritating Robin I enjoy it because Robin is so
46:44
unflappable a lot of the time. She just doesn't get annoyed that quickly,
46:51
so when you see her be like, all right, can we fucking move
46:52
this along. It's just a rare thing, and I think it's kind of
46:55
funny. But yeah, he says, I thought that I had finally charted
47:04
my escape from this demonic see, but my rudder broke and I was cast
47:08
even further into the depths of this world. I suppose it was about five
47:13
years ago, in much the same way it happened to you. The island
47:15
of Thriller. Bark called out to me. I was desperate to escape,
47:22
no matter the risks, so I decided to take a chance and scour the
47:25
island and hunt for parts to fix the rudder. And we get to see
47:30
like a real fun Cepia tone footage of him running away from zombies from Cerberus,
47:39
like you know, the whole deal, and he's like, yeah,
47:44
I miscalculated. This whole place was just full of zombies. They captured me,
47:50
and this is the place where I saw something truly bonkers. There were
47:57
other people who had been captured, and they brought this one dude before a
48:04
corpse that was like all these different parts stitch together. And this guy was
48:10
a dancer, and the way they have this scene is that he's got his
48:15
hands above his head and his palms together and like wiggling his head from side
48:22
to side in this like real weird sort of expression of dance that he just
48:30
continues in the face of this horrible experimentation that is being done on him.
48:36
He just keeps going. And I've got to admire that, I really do.
48:42
So, yeah, he explains about how the you know, the way
48:51
that the shadow is ripped away, and it's kind of cool. Later on,
48:57
when we're watching Lufy's Shadow get to Taken, the sound effect of the
49:02
shadow being peeled up off the floor sounds like when you're unrolling packing tape,
49:08
like that kind of feeling of sticky peeling. It's very evocative, and it
49:17
felt like it worked really well for what it was they were depicting. And
49:22
I wondered how, because you know, I'm not super familiar with the way
49:27
things work in a lot of comics or manga, but I have to assume
49:34
that there is like a sound effect included in writing when they do it,
49:37
and I wonder if it's the same thing. But yeah, Brookes says,
49:46
it doesn't matter who the corpse belong to. The shadows retain the characteristics of
49:52
the person they were pulled from. So whatever your corps is, it has
49:57
to at least be like up to doing what the spirit was able to do.
50:01
So this is I just think that this is a neat like concept.
50:07
And of course this guy is like able to dominate all of these creatures and
50:15
order them around and they're completely under his control, which is a pretty big
50:21
deal for somebody who wants to become King of the pirates. Just having like
50:24
hordes and hordes of creatures that just do your bidding, that is going to
50:30
be an advantage. There's just no way around it. So this we have
50:39
still our friends that are trapped inside of the bear. It's a kind of
50:45
a drawn out sequence, but they're brought into the same room where they see
50:50
Lufy and they see Maria and somebody asks, I think it's up. Doctor
50:58
Hogback is like, where are the three that I put in the coffin and
51:01
sent out? And they realize like, oh, they're missing. That's really
51:05
weird. But the bear does not tell them that they are inside of his
51:09
body. He just keeps his mouth shut and sweats in the corner. I
51:15
want to mention, honorable mention to Chingery. Is that how you say her
51:20
name? But this is the girl who hates Plates, and she just keeps
51:25
on fucking up the vibe for Doctor Hogback in a way that's delightful and also
51:31
absalom. She just keeps on being like, nobody would ever love you,
51:36
nobody wants you. I mean, why would they. You look at you
51:40
now, you're both unlovable fundamentally, and you're just gonna be alone forever,
51:45
so you may as we'll just get used to that because you suck. And
51:49
she's so deadpan about it, and she keeps blocking doctor Hogback as he tries
51:54
to sort of grandstand, and he's so mad about it. And I love
52:00
of the pettiness of that particular way of fighting back. I was cray like
52:07
the way that is played. It's just such a small thing and you could
52:13
almost be like, oh, it's not even on purpose, you know,
52:16
but of course it is. I am. I love that this character who
52:28
makes no sense, like as just somebody who hates Plates. It's really it
52:34
doesn't make any sense. And she's turning into one of my favorite little side
52:38
characters. You guys, I'm just realizing, like I have barely gotten into
52:47
I haven't really at all touched on the start of the third of these episodes,
52:53
and I didn't realize I am basically out of time. Oh, you
53:00
guys, I'm so sorry. I've been all over the place. I had
53:02
to push this back, and now I'm like fucking up my time. I
53:07
didn't. Usually, you know, I'm able to go pretty quickly when there's
53:13
a lot of action. But I fucked it up this time. I really
53:16
did. I'm going to have to kind of cover what happens next in the
53:22
next episode. I'm so sorry, but I'm going to do my best to
53:28
make sure that I don't leave anything out. Maybe I'll actually like take notes
53:31
in that way, I can make sure to hit the points I want to
53:34
hit. Oh, there's a bunch of stuff in the chat. Oda tends
53:38
to be very on point with sound effects. As Sarah fhim Demian says,
53:43
you have no idea. Japanese has a million gazillion on amantapillas, and Oda
53:45
really loves them more than any other manga. The manga is filled to the
53:50
brim with them. For every sound imaginable. He especially loves to include drum
53:53
sounds to highlight dramatic moments. That's fun, Sarah fhimas pronounced sinjury. Okay,
54:00
A very large amount of the Japanese names for devil fruits arenamonopias related to
54:05
what they do. Yeah, I guess that's true. Huh. All right,
54:10
everybody, Well, I'm going to do better next episode. Please bear
54:16
with me. I'm having so much fun, is the thing, Like,
54:19
I like these episodes so much that I wind up having a lot more to
54:22
say about them than you would expect. So I am going to really attempt
54:28
to get to the point a little bit more and not wander around so much
54:31
in the next episode. Forgive me, I am going to clean it up,
54:37
I promise. Thank you all so much for coming and for hanging out
54:39
with me and giving me info. I appreciate you all so so much.
54:44
I appreciate your patience as well. And until next time to lou Motherfucker's That
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