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Jaguars Happy Hour | Lawrence, Oluokun Ready to Get to Work Under New Leadership · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April tenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by dream Finders'.
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  Speaker 3: Homes and now a guy living in his own personal
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  Speaker 3: Amen corner, Jay P.
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  Speaker 1: Chackick, and welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, April tenth.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a busy hour ahead. The off season program
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  Speaker 3: is underway. Players are here. They're running and jumping and
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  Speaker 3: lifting and moving and doing some not even really football
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  Speaker 3: things yet a lot of culture building going on around here.
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen spoke with the media yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll hear some of his comments from the Jaguars, said coach,
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  Speaker 3: as did Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback and Foyer Luk and
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars linebacker will have the comments both of those guys
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  Speaker 3: coming up shortly. Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by dream
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  Speaker 3: x l a, M, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, All
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  Speaker 3: the Places. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jebs afternoon, JP.
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  Speaker 3: Oh are you I'm doing good? Since last week?
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  Speaker 1: You have been a while right in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, been six days, yeah or so almost. How many
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  Speaker 3: hours is that? I don't know, math I was told
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  Speaker 3: there would be none today. It's been a while, No,
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  Speaker 3: it's uh, it's been a good week though since the
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  Speaker 3: last time I saw you.
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  Speaker 1: Going on there is a lot actually something going on
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  Speaker 1: is well.
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  Speaker 3: I figured there was something going on when I when
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  Speaker 3: my phone started to ring and uh serious, XM NFL
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  Speaker 3: radio wanted to do some interviews. Ah, you want to
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  Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: What were they interested in?
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  Speaker 3: So I got, you know, just about the the general
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  Speaker 3: vibe of the new regime, the structure of the new regime,
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  Speaker 3: how everybody's going to fit together, what does that mean
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  Speaker 3: for I mean all those kind of things.
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  Speaker 1: People just want to know.
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  Speaker 3: It's football, and when teams start the OTAs, it creates
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  Speaker 3: more football news. And I know as a player, it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the first day back to school, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you get to see the guys you haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen in a while, get to hang out together a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, get to compete a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit in the weight room. It's good stuff. Some new
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  Speaker 1: teachers for the class.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the most important thing because I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's a you know, when you walk in a billion
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  Speaker 3: everybody's kind of coming in renewed, refreshed, and on top
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  Speaker 3: of that with a blank slate.
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  Speaker 1: So to speak. Yes, absolutely, And.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean by that is that you hout now
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  Speaker 3: have a new set of eyes that it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be evaluating you and where you're at and whatever eyes
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  Speaker 3: looked at you in the past, and their opinion doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: So the film kind of speaks a little bit for
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  Speaker 3: the opinions to be shaped on the people that are
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  Speaker 3: now in the building, But a lot of times they
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  Speaker 3: have that as a reference, but they don't turn to
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  Speaker 3: it as the gospel. You have to create your own now,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the way it should be. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that that's the exciting part. And I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: little nerve racking for some guys because they don't know
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  Speaker 3: where they stand.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the deal. Though it's football. It means you've
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  Speaker 3: got to prove yourself every day. You're only as good
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  Speaker 3: as your last game on tape. Well, I mean the
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  Speaker 3: reality is, I mean, there's you can kind of prove it,
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  Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, you're really not
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  Speaker 3: proving it. Until you're getting back on the grass in
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  Speaker 3: front of a big fan base and lights are.
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  Speaker 1: On or not on if it's one o'clock kick, You
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  Speaker 1: know that type situation.
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  Speaker 3: Part of it for a new coaching staff, of course,
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  Speaker 3: is establishing the culture how you want to operate it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the interesting part to me. Day after day you
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  Speaker 3: do that well. We heard from Liam Cohen, oddly enough,
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  Speaker 3: yesterday he spoke with the media. Okay, it was a
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  Speaker 3: big topic of conversation. We know is acronym fast to
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  Speaker 3: talk about the mentality he wants around the team stands
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  Speaker 3: for fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters and tough both mentally
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  Speaker 3: and physically. The toughness part is one of the things
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  Speaker 3: he was asked about. How do you establish that this
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  Speaker 3: time of year.
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  Speaker 4: I know that this is not a physical time, it
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  Speaker 4: can't be and it isn't. But the establishing of the mindset,
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  Speaker 4: the way that we're going to do things, the way
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  Speaker 4: that we want the meetings, like coach Camp brought up today,
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  Speaker 4: our meetings should be tough, right, Like we're learning new information.
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  Speaker 4: It's all very new for everybody. That's hard. It's hard
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  Speaker 4: to do for a coach, for a player, it's hard
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  Speaker 4: to learn. So when you do hard things and you
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  Speaker 4: come out on the other end, usually you say, well
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  Speaker 4: I got tougher from that, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's this time of year toughness, right, And then
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  Speaker 3: it becomes once you start on the field, situational, you know,
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  Speaker 3: actually moving people around and changing the way this football
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  Speaker 3: team operates.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 3: For first, a little explanationary, says coach camp and I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming that's coach Anthony Campinelli, the defensive coordinator. Correct, And
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  Speaker 3: it is tough for some guys to learn a new
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  Speaker 3: system because some guys have been in the system for
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  Speaker 3: a long period of time and kind of that lingo,
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  Speaker 3: that language is ingrained in their head and you've got
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  Speaker 3: to kind of wipe it clean and start fresh and
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  Speaker 3: start new. I don't know if I'd necessarily say that
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to learn football. It's kind of football, and
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  Speaker 3: football's not necessarily that hard. Now, let me correct myself here.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a quarterback and you're learning the offense, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: for a third time in what five years in the league,
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  Speaker 3: Holy cow, And Trevor hasn't had the opportunity to probably
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  Speaker 3: learn much of the offense yet. So this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a tough, challenging time for Trevor to kind
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  Speaker 3: of digest that offense and to be able to speak
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  Speaker 3: the language as fast as possible, because he's the leader
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  Speaker 3: of the ship on the field and he's got to
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  Speaker 3: be able to communicate that language. And until you get
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  Speaker 3: your quarterback to be able to speak that language, it's
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  Speaker 3: probably going to be more difficult. So that I think
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  Speaker 3: is imperative to get started and get rolling quickly. Another
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  Speaker 3: part of this time of the year, of course, it's phase
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  Speaker 3: one of the offseason program. That means strength and conditioning.
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  Speaker 3: Only very limited amount of time each day the players
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  Speaker 3: can be in the building and even less of time
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  Speaker 3: they can actually be on the field only with strength
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  Speaker 3: and conditioning coaches. That whole staff is new as well,
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  Speaker 3: and Liam Cohen asked how they get established in the
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  Speaker 3: weight room.
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  Speaker 4: There's no pre existing you know, just thoughts about anybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's just hey man, this is how we're doing it.
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  Speaker 4: These are the things that we're going to do while
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  Speaker 4: also gearing it towards at some point here individual development
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  Speaker 4: plans for each player. So as we go, we're setting
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  Speaker 4: the standards in the weight room how we want to
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  Speaker 4: operate skills will lift this way, the big big skill
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  Speaker 4: here and the bigs, well, they all have different weights
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  Speaker 4: and things that they're doing, but the mode of operation,
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  Speaker 4: the standard, the communication will all be similar. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it's actually great that they are starting from scratch
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  Speaker 4: and having those relationships be able to be fostered, and
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  Speaker 4: then as we grow get to know each other a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more, those IDPs will become a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more common.
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  Speaker 3: It's all new, especially down in the weight room, and
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  Speaker 3: that they're the only coaches on staff that can be
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  Speaker 3: out on the field with the players this time of year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that's for general conditioning stuff and no football stuff whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: But kind of funny story with Leave's talking about the
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  Speaker 3: strength and conditioning aspect. You know, guys, different guys, players
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  Speaker 3: use different weights. You know, they have a custom tailored
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  Speaker 3: to the individual, which you know kind of position group wise. Right,
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  Speaker 3: I'll never forget, you know, going back to the very
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  Speaker 3: first year of the organization in nineteen ninety five and
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  Speaker 3: we had our strength and conditioning coach was Jerry Paul
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  Speaker 3: Mario and Jerry's great love them, great guy, uh soldier
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  Speaker 3: all the way Jaguars strength coach, the original one loved them, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so JP just thinking out loud here, Okay, if I've
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  Speaker 3: got offensive lineman, yeah, okay, over here doing squats and
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  Speaker 3: hang cleans. Do I want Trevor Lawrence or Mark Burnell
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  Speaker 3: doing squats or hank cleans?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not to that effect of what those guys are doing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, No, I don't want my quarterback doing a hand
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  Speaker 3: clean or squats.
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  Speaker 1: Squat's now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean then if you're a running quarterback these days,
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts probably does some squat well. I mean, look
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  Speaker 3: that's Jalen Hurts, you know. But I mean and I'm
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  Speaker 3: okay with squats, and he controlled.
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  Speaker 1: Weight, you know, so you get sure very strict. This
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  Speaker 1: guy was making Brunell do squats today clean I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Telling you Brunell hurt his back. I think it was
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  Speaker 3: in ninety five.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was doing hand cleans. Come and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we have our quarterback doing hand cleans? You know,
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  Speaker 3: hand cleans you kind of get the weight right below
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  Speaker 3: your knees and then you snatch it and then you
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  Speaker 3: fold your forearms up under the weight and you know,
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  Speaker 3: puts a lot of pressure on your wrists.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of need those check.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, that's a million dollar risk that we're
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  Speaker 3: doing hand cleans with What are we doing Jerry? And
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  Speaker 3: he ended up getting I can't remember if it was
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  Speaker 3: a back or something something. He got hurt and then
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  Speaker 3: it all changed. Mark wasn't doing hand cleans anymore after that.
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  Speaker 3: But I was sitting there thinking looking at marking the
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  Speaker 3: weight room doing hand cleans and squats and all this stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, what are we doing? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do we really want our starting quarterback or potential starting
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  Speaker 3: quarterback because the starting quarterback at that time was going
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  Speaker 3: to be Burlin Steve Barline Burline. But yeah, it was uh,
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  Speaker 3: it was a bit of a mess. But but we
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  Speaker 3: dialed it in a little bit better later on. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, I mean, but that was part of
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  Speaker 3: the culture building process with Caulflin. Okay, now we all
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  Speaker 3: are gonna work, everybody's we all are gonna work, but
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  Speaker 3: you have to work smart. You can't just all work
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  Speaker 3: the same. It just doesn't work because position groups are different.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I mean, since nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you or anybody, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: technology has changed too, and the way they take time
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  Speaker 3: track and change and miles per hour and GPS and
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  Speaker 3: everything in the conditioning phase of this diet analysis, die composition.
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  Speaker 3: The technology that is in sports recovery, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: just completely different, not even close to what it was
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  Speaker 3: in ninety five. And we didn't have cryo chambers. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't have what's that thing, the thing you can sleep
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  Speaker 3: in it's like a hyperbar chamber. We didn't have have Hell,
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  Speaker 3: we had to have trash cans for an ice tub
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  Speaker 3: back in ninety five.
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  Speaker 1: Now they have.
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  Speaker 3: Cold tubs, hot tub cold that uh that you know,
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  Speaker 3: you ask the players, not the p N. We had
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  Speaker 3: that violated one time. I will I will name I
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  Speaker 3: will still around. Uh yeah you might be Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we had. That was one of the funniest moments ever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want his story.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, I'm not gonna not gonna call them out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how did you find out anyway? So we
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  Speaker 1: had I mean, I don't even want to know you knew. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's the story.
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  Speaker 3: So we're in the cold tub, which this cold tub
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  Speaker 3: was like a hot tub, right, you stand in cold
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  Speaker 3: but it's cold, and uh, we're all just sitting in
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  Speaker 3: there and look The real thumb is, Look, don't come
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  Speaker 3: in there naked.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see you. No, it's fair.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, take a shower before you get in, so we
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  Speaker 3: don't dirty the cold tub. Okay, it's not a it's
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  Speaker 3: not a bathtub.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cold tub.
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  Speaker 3: So we're all sitting in there, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: I look over and there's a yellow cloud around this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Bit I swear, kid you not. I mean I'm talking.
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  Speaker 3: He must have been really dehydrated, because it was a
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  Speaker 3: dark yellow cloud. And I turn and look and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: so and so are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And and of course as you exited the pool, I
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  Speaker 3: started immediately calling him out and I told him to
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  Speaker 3: get out. Did you get out?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I got.
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  Speaker 3: Hang out in or not? Okay, clouds coming my way,
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  Speaker 3: I'm running. I got out. Okay, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: hang out in azurine. Sorry, Okay, I don't care how
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  Speaker 3: much chlorine is in there, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be in there.
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  Speaker 3: So so.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I went to Colfland and I said, look, we have
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  Speaker 3: we have a player that urinated in the cold tub,
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  Speaker 3: and he would like to speak to the team okay,
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  Speaker 3: and so I made him get up in front of
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  Speaker 3: the team and read a prepared speech, kid you not.
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  Speaker 3: And it started out, Hi, my name is so and so,
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  Speaker 3: and I have a urination problem. Really you had to
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  Speaker 3: do it in front of the whole team. Was there
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  Speaker 3: a fine time, No, there was no fine. But he
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  Speaker 3: had to admit what he had done. He had to
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  Speaker 3: admit that he had a problem that he was going.
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  Speaker 1: To seek all for.
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  Speaker 3: I wrote a whole speech out for him. I figured that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, doing that was way better than you know,
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  Speaker 3: institute in the kangaroo fine shaming him in front of
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  Speaker 3: his his peers or letting him shame himself in front
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  Speaker 3: of his piers. I mean, if it worked or didn't work,
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  Speaker 3: if I see him coming towards yeah, if I see
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  Speaker 3: him coming towards the ars, I'm out of there.
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  Speaker 1: No chance. I'm not risking it, trust me.
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  Speaker 3: He was actually banned from the cold tub for a
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  Speaker 3: period of you stay in your own trash can outsh brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually, and we came.
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  Speaker 3: We came up with a nickname for him, and it
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  Speaker 3: had the word tinkle in it.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if that doesn't sell season tickets, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what will The.
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  Speaker 1: New season is right around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: Get those twenty twenty five season ticket memberships down and
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  Speaker 3: you could be at the bank for every touchdown and
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  Speaker 3: secure your seats at Jaguars dot com slash tickets or
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  Speaker 3: call nine O four six three three two thousand are crying,
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  Speaker 3: he is crying.
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  Speaker 1: That was funny. It was a funny moment.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was you know, it was back in
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  Speaker 3: in the early days, you know, and it was uh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Let's come back and here from the quarterback Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 3: spoke with the media yesterday. Some highlights including footwork under
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  Speaker 3: construction on TENENXL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 5: I've been here a lot just because of rehab and
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  Speaker 5: stuff and trying to get my shoulder healthy, and so
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  Speaker 5: I've been around this off season a lot more than
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  Speaker 5: maybe even typically, so just to have all the guys
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  Speaker 5: back in the building and just bring some energy and
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  Speaker 5: some juice. And I know from a player standpoint, everybody's excited.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody in the locker room's pumped to me back. And
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  Speaker 5: then you know, the coaching side, you can feel the
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  Speaker 5: energy and the excitement. And those guys are up here
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  Speaker 5: working all off season trying to get everything ready, so
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  Speaker 5: they're chomping at the bit by the time we get
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  Speaker 5: in because they get to actually do what they love
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  Speaker 5: and coach and have the players. So I think there's
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  Speaker 5: a good balance of just everybody's excited and very optimistic
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of energy.
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  Speaker 1: It's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always
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  Speaker 3: in season. The offseason program underway. We're at the Hyundai
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  Speaker 3: Studios inside the Miller Electric Center of Busy Place with
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  Speaker 3: all the players back in. Now we're on ten ten XL,
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Coming up, we'll hear
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  Speaker 3: from Foyer, Luik and Jaguars linebacker. But there's a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and no brace on his left arm. Remember he had
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  Speaker 3: the sling going on after the shoulder stuff going on
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  Speaker 3: this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good sign.
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  Speaker 3: He said he's gonna be in a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a pitch count some as this offseason goes along.
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  Speaker 1: There's no real rush.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a long lay to September, but there
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  Speaker 3: will be a process to really get him back fully
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  Speaker 3: engaged in everything. But the time is not now for that.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, it's good to see him out of that
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  Speaker 3: sling and in good spirits. Moving ahead to this offseason
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  Speaker 3: program in a very important one for him, as we
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  Speaker 3: talked about a minute ago. Learning this offense and the
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  Speaker 3: terminology and everything that goes with it is a challenge. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's a lot to digest for for a quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: you know, for like linemen, it's not that hard to
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  Speaker 3: be honest with you about that guy. Yeah, and uh
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  Speaker 3: but uh, you know, first of all, I'm glad that
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: he was able to rehab here. I mean, I always
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: believe that the best rehab you can get is with
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the team, and this team has a great medical staff
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: and great medical department in Robbie, who is the rehab specialist.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Is he's amazing. I've rehabbed with him before. He's simply amazing.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: So they got a great system in place when it
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: comes to that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: So good good that he was here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: And the pitch count thing I think is absolutely a
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: good thing. I mean, there's I mean, what's the rush, right,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I mean working back in at at a casual rate.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Not casual but at a smart rate, I think is
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: the better way to describe that. And there's plenty of
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: time to get them. And the reality is is that
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of restrictions on the OTAs and
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: that the pace of the OTA is and what you
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: can and can't do, and I think a lot of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: that is naturally gonna keep that to a controlled I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: guess it will be controlled because of what you can
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and can't do, you know. But the good thing again
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: going back to this is that, look, it's a non
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: throwing shoulder, even though everything affects the throwing motion of
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a quarterback, because it's all a balanced thing. But I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: expected to be making full recovery and should have no
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: issues whatsoever moving forward, and that's a real positive. Liam
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Cohen yesterday talked a little bit about the work on
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence's footwork that could be ahead, and then in
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence's part of the press conference, he was asked
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: about that and what needs to be done about his
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: footwork in the pocket.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: The system is built around timing and tying your feet
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: to your progression and playing on time, and so it
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: allows you to get backside, allows you to get to
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: checkdowns or whatever it may be, and you can feel
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: comfortable playing on time. And more than any system I've
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: ever learned, it's structured and based on that, and it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: so everything's tied exactly to all right, this route is
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: on this timing, so then your next progression is off
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: of this footwork, off this timing, so it all ties
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: in perfect. You don't have multiple routes declaring at the
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: same time, which is hard as a quarterback because then
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: you're sitting back there and you got to make a
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: decision before really the guys open or covered, you know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: So I think they've done a really good job with
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: the system of really thinking through how does it tie
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: into a quarterback's feet, And that's what we've been talking about.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: And it takes some work, and you know, flipping my stands,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: just some little things like that that are small that
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: many people wouldn't notice, but it is. I have so
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: many banked reps of the other way. I got to
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: just get all these on my own and work them
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: so once camp comes around, I'm ready to go.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Everything starts with the foundation, the base for the quarterback. Again,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: that's the footwork least everything else. I think there's there's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: no date, no doubt, And a lot of times when
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: you watch a quarterback's feet, a lot of times you
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: can tell whether or not there's confidence and an understanding
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: of the system.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And if the feet.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Look good, typically the players in a good place mentally.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But then also he's in a good place physically to
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: be able to get the ball released and be.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Accurate and on time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: And and so I like hearing that from Trevor, And
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the whole part that I like the most is that
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: and the thing that I really took from that as
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: he talked about how your progression there, you've got receivers
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that are coming open at different times, so that you
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: go to him and then if he's not there, then
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: you're turning to him, and then now he's coming open,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: but okay he's not. Then I turn to number three
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and now he's supposed to be getting open. So not
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: everybody's going open at the same time. And like Trevor
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: was saying there, that you don't have to drop back
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and quickly figure out out of those three guys which
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: one needs to get the ball. Get the ball at
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: point A because there is only point A to release
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: the ball, and then after that point it becomes off schedule.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I liked hearing that from him because
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a little bit revealing in
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: that and what it was versus what it's going to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: be for him now with it seems to be a
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: system that's a little bit more quarterback friendly, and that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a positive, especially if you get the running game going.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Everything gets more quarterback friendly. I mean, this might be
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: a question more for Yudensky if we get him in
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: here at some point, you know, how do you build that?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Like how do you is it a time by the second?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Like how do you know when somebody needs to break?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And how a great question. I'd love to hear that answer.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I hope we can get him in I mean, I
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: give us the answer. Yeah, maybe not. I'm just curious
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: how you identify timing right when you're building it off.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure you know, what Trevor's alluding to is
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: not necessarily the case all the time.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's some of.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: The plays that they're the progression is with. You know, Okay,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the primary is supposed to get open now and now
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the secondary option is going next, and then the third
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: is going after that. It takes X number of time
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: to get five yards or whatever that is, right, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure that you know what what what Trevor
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: is doing is slowing it down for us to understand it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: But there are probably split second times between a two
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: B two C or one two three option.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: You know what.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: He could change with coverage too, right, I mean the
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: coverage just changing that Okay, we're that throws off the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: timing and we're changing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking forward to seeing. I mean, this
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: is a big year for Trevor.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I mean it is. It's a big year.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You know, we got a new contract last year, A
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: lot invested in them. Now on what I would consider
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: his second head coach because the first one I don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I don't even factor that one in because that was
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a complete washout with Urban. So this is a big
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: year for Trevor. And when you're a first overall pick guy,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I mean there's pressure.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: That comes with that, and that's just part of the territory.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: And Trevor's dealt with pressure his whole life. He's you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: essentially been expected to be the guy and to lead
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: his team at every level and what she's expected to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: do here. And if there's anybody that's built to handle that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: it's him. From a mental standpoint, I've never seen or
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: listened to a quarterback that can handle it better than him.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: He's got a great, great mental makeup and I'm looking
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: forward to watching him this year under this system, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: then also with some new weapons and some new guys
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: up front. Let's keep him healthy, right, I mean, that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: just been the catcher kind of goes to the guys
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: up front. Absolutely, it does. Part of it's him too,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the way he plays in a certain style.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: He's got to protect himself, that's right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: We go back to the shoulder thing is yeah, I mean,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you know, help yourself out of little bit, right, I mean, so,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and those guys up front need to help him out.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And then and most importantly, I mean the things that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: really ring true and in my ears when Liam talked
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: about at the owner's meeting about we've got to help
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: him out, We've got we've got to get a running
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: game going, and that I mean, and it was just
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: so emphatic and and so resolute the way he said it,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and it's so true because.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You heard me JP.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I won't use the one word, but complaining that this this,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: they got to be committed to the run more.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Wonder what word you were thinking of? It starts with
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a B and.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And part of the problem goes back to
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: when you wanted to run it?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Could you run it? No?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Look look at all the short hearted situations. I mean,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: when you're dialing up these magical crazy design plays on
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: third and one, it means you you can't run the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: ball when you need to.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And the last couple of years.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: You got you got to get better than what they were,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: and they will get better.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: They better interior now than they were. Well, I mean,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll find out, I think, I think,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but you.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Know, looking until you line up and play some games,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, we'll we'll find out then, you know. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: here's the reality, the the rebuild or the build, whatever
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you want to call it of this offensive line is
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: not nearly complete, you know. Good chance they even get
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: one on day one. You don't know, but I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to see because you've got
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to create competition. I like what they did in Free Age,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: seeing that you brought in a guy that can handle
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the center job. You've brought in a guy who's played
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of Snaps and good Ball and McCarey.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But you're not done yet. You got you got a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: ways to go yet.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Upfront, I meant to compliment you on your use of resolute.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: That's a good word. Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Every now and again, that's too often. Every now and
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: again I pull one out. It's very Virginia of you.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, it really is. I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: know about that. That's yeah, somewhere in the back of
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: the mind. It was just resting there. And you know
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: it's you know, the older you get, jp the harder
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: it is to go to the shelf to find words,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I actually had a long
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: discussion with a with a mental health person. Okay, yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: this is a cool story. I'll tell you real quick.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people that are getting older,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: right like you.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: We're all getting older. We're all getting older.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: So the NFL has this thing for former players and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: it's like a mind and body evaluation. Okay, and you
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: can do it like every five years. And it's like
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I mean intense physical. When I say intense it's not
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: hard for me to do this. It's very thorough, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: very complete, and part of it is like a mental
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: health evaluation and also where you are, where your mind at,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: you recall, et cetera. And I was talking to this
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: doctor and they take you through these things and they
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: read these like six words. Okay, ok we'll play the
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: thing with the JP. Okay, ready to JP. We're gonna
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I want to give you five words and I want
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you to repeat them back to me. Okay, underway program comments,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: talk off season coming, give them back to me.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I exactly right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: And so I'm doing this thing right and I'm trying
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to remember all these words that he just threw at me.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm getting nervous on my god, and you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: because I have like testing anxiety sometimes or whatever. And
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: so I told the guys that John said, I was
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: so nervous. Is after the fact I did the test
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: and he said, you did great, and I was like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I had so much anxiety about this test.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: He said, look, he goes reality is because he was
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: trying to We were talking about football or something, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: he was he was an LSU guy and he's trying
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: to remember some great players at LSU. And I was like,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: so I'm not the only one that forgets. You're forgetting too.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And he said, look, he said, you look at it
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: this way. He said, the older you get, it just.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Takes you a little bit more time to go through
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the file to find out.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: That piece of information.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: He goes, The younger you are, it's a little easier
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: to find because you also haven't built up a big
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: file system yet.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: He said.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: The older you get, the file system is a little
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: bit bigger, and it takes a little bit longer because
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you know some of the Brian the brain said, just
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: takes a little while to go find it made me
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: feel better. Yeah, anyway, we're used to the dow totally
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: awesome track there of football. But nonetheless, good story, pretty
• 29:00
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• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Today, we'll hear from Foyer.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Look and when we come back, we'll discuss some draft items.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I know you've been watching your film this week. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: had been watching a little bit of that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we come back.
• 29:36
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• 29:39
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: We didn't win last year, so I think whatever changes
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that are coming are accepted because obviously we didn't play
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: up to the stand that we needed. So whatever was
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: going on, you know, if it's if it's you can't
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: really promise more wins. But obviously we needed maybe a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: new way to attack the season, a new way to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: attack the off seasons and stuff. So I think everybody's
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: very accepting of everything new that's in store for us.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: You know that that equates to more wins.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: For YEA Lucan Jaguars linebacker, speaking with the media yesterday,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shadwick. Did
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: anybody ask him what position he's going to play?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Vloghman.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I know they did not That would have been a
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: great question to ask, I'm curious we're gonna, you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: not rotate off the field this year.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Jeez, that's what I'm curious about.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll ever forget the defensive coaching
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: job from twenty twenty four.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean we'd like to at some point.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: You got to move forward. This is what they're talking about, right. Hey,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: last year wasn't good enough. The thing just was baffling
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to me last year.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: As you can see, I'm not over again.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: This is the time he got over and we're gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: we're gonna talk through this together. Okay, Yes, let's do
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: that so we can move forward. Why would you take
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: an NFL leading tackler, okay, that's played the Mike position
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: for the last number of years at a very high level,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and then move him to a different position. Help me
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: understand that move? They move, They move Devon inside. Didn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: they correct? Which I mean to be honest with you, Look,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Devon had had some trouble. Mike is the captain of
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the ship without question, and Foyer is a great leader
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: by example, vocally, everything, the way he carries himself, the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: way he works, all of it. Really good free agent signing,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: great signing. I mean legitimate, great free agent signing, one
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of the one of the best, and you're gonna move
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: him to Will. And I'm not trying to bring Devin
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Lloyd into the conversation because that shouldn't have any bearing
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: on it whatsoever.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But I think it's why, But it shouldn't have whatsoever.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: That positioned good, you're good. I'm just telling you why
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: if it does if Devin doesn't, it doesn't.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: If he's a better mic.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's say Devon's a better Let's say he's a
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: better mic than a Will, not better mic than, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: just a better mic that he plays.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: At Will.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Too bad, Okay, because is a really good mic, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna take a guy that can maybe be
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: a little better as a mic to make a guy
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: who's in a really good mica getting two positions at
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: that point totally instead of just one. Totally figure it out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, he got one position that's just jam up.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Leave him there, figure something out for the next Okay.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I won't bring that up every Akay, so now, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: until wait a minute, that question's got to be answered.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: At some point it will be. Yeah, it's not the
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: last time we'll hear from four. Everybody's excited. I would
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: wish somebody had asked him that question, because I mean,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: you could tell last year it was just he'd get
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: asked the question about the position switch, and you could
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: just you. I mean, look, I've read between the line.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I look, I played the game, and you
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: can just tell when a player is not very happy.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: But he's the type of guy that's gonna but yeah,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: but he was like that, biting his inside of his lip.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: You know, you could just tell.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: That he was.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It was not a comfortable situation for him, and he
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: didn't play as well last year because he was out
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: of position. Anyway, that's just me on a rent there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: What was our defensive coordinator's name last year? I'm just kidding.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I mean that file, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: threw it away, you know how I was trying to
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: retrieve it. I don't know you're still opening it there
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: for a second. I mean, but it's just because, look,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I want Foyer to be at his best, and when
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: he's at his best has been when he has been
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: playing Mike.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And he's a good football player.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: And the most impressive thing about him is his stamina,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: which is comparable to nobody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say nobody.
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  Speaker 3: There's got some guys that play with great stamina, but
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  Speaker 3: he's one of the most impressive guys I've ever seen
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  Speaker 3: in that department.
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  Speaker 1: And that was before they took him off the field
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  Speaker 1: for twenty stamps a game. What are we doing? Just
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to get me gold on this? Ryan Nielson
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  Speaker 1: brought it up. He was a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: Last Yeah, boy, that was that was a doozy.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Is that that Twain's later in the year, July twenty ninth, nice,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's right around the start of training camp.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'll go check that out. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: he's been he's been great for a long time, long time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she have to pay tariffs? Don't know the answer to that.
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  Speaker 3: Tickets at Dailiesplace dot com more sill information. That's a
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  Speaker 3: good question. Yeah, it changes daily. By the way, I
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  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shadwick. Today's hellingm Jaguars dot com.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, people relax, relax, We're just having fun.
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft two weeks from tonight, Round one.
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  Speaker 3: Can't wait. Uh and uh, we're gonna have a radio
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  Speaker 3: show for that. Shocking it happens like every year it does.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: And breaking news. We're doing something that happens all the time. Well,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: you know we had Baselli on in the past.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a good point.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: So well, he's an executive now, so you gotta, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: schedule out time with him way in advance. Are we
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: gonna Are we gonna get him at in some capacity?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I could see they maybe like post pic maybe Okay,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just talking out out too.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we can get some inside information death for our
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  Speaker 3: radio broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt that why not. He's like a vault. He's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a vault. Yeah, okay, I think I felt.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that you know, you have a closer relationship. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: just thought maybe he know the guy he throws a
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  Speaker 3: bone right, you know, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Throws a bone tone.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I don't even know him.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know this. Do you don't know that guy?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know this to change, he's changed whole lot,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: not even the same guy, not even close. What's the
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: what's the what's the famous song? There's a lot of
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: famous songs I have about that. Now there's a it's
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: a it's Joe Fortunado would know this. It's a song.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I go to parties sometimes until four, and he
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  Speaker 3: talks about people change.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't changed, Joe Walsh. Thank you, Yeah, thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Folder change. Yeah, I found it faster, did well. You're
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: younger than me. You can say that again. I am
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: much younger.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You're getting older now I am. Let's go back in
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  Speaker 3: a moment. We'll have our final thoughts. If we can
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  Speaker 3: find them.
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  Speaker 1: We search, We'll do.
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  Speaker 4: Before we can do anything, we've got to be able
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• 38:40
  Speaker 4: success of the organization but also the development of the player.
• 38:44
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  Speaker 4: help see you become the best version of yourself both
• 38:50
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that too, draft talk. Appreciate that. So that'll
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: help us have a better working relationship. That's right, Okay, Great,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: you got to start with a good foundation. Great, and no,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: we're all on the same page and we can move forward. Right,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that's what they're doing, right. That's why you know, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I kid some but that this time of year, in
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the first meetings for the coaching staff in front of
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the team, those first impressions, you know, they go a
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: long way. And we heard a lot, you know, in
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the aftermath of last season that some of the new
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: staff that had come in We heard pretty quickly and
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: the after math of it that, okay, we we kind
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: of knew earlier this is going to be an interesting year.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So that's why these are so important right now. It
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: was a little rocky to start with last year from
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: what we understood, and that it didn't really get much better.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So look, there's only one first impression, and I think,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: uh and that and that goes both ways. Now, you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: from from the coaches to the players and from the
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: players to the coaches. So uh, I think, uh, you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: but it's not the only chance to make an impression.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: You know, there's plenty of more opportunities through your hard work, dedication,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: the kind of person you are, the kind of work
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  Speaker 3: ethic that you carry, how you try to bring others
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: with you and to and to raise others around you,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: raise the level of others around you. So look, I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to, uh to the off season stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to the OTAs. I understand that we're
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: going to be able to maybe take a peek a
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: few I think, at more OTAs than we have in
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the past, which is great because look, football science is
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: uh is not something that should be so secretive.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, people know what you're gonna do. Come on,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't need to.
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  Speaker 3: Have this seclusion, you know, this cloud of secrecy around
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: what you're doing, and if they're you know and so
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: u and especially with a new staff, I mean you
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: would think that they would want to have some of that,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: but uh, it's football, it's not rocket science.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I mean you also don't want to like just open
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  Speaker 1: up the gates all the time. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you don't want to have you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: media guys out there watching you left weights or something
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 1: But the practices.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Look, I've always been a big believer in this and
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: that as athletes and performers, you perform in front of people.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: You play in front of people, So why not try
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: to create anything that can be similar to that and
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: as often as you can.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I remember the some of.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: The best practices that ever had in training camps were
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the ones that were going against other teams and the
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: public was there to watch, you know, I mean, it
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: kind of creates a heightened level of awareness and a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: heightened level of intensity, and so any any way that
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you can try to elevate that I think is a positive.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Was that the same when they had the pads off
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: against the Bucks last year? What in the world was that?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking, just asking.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: So there you go, you're trying to take me down
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: that road again, asking a question.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not did that happen that day? I'm not biting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not biting that in front of fans.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bite. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna I'm not.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, bump the man.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: They needed to get refreshed JP and ready for the game. Okay,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: it was smart getting ready for this law physical can
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I just that was baffling. Yeah, I'm not going down
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: that right. I'm not Yeah, trying to get you to
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: turn the left down.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a left. I'm gonna stay right. Okay, Well,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in that case, for two weeks in the road, I'm
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: staying to the right. You're gonna take it. I'm staying
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to the right. NFL Draft two weeks out? Where are
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you now? At number five? What are you? What are you?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: What is your you know, depends on the forehead. I
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: get it. But what do you really want right now?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Don't tell me a really good football player?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Give me give me a name.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I could give you a bunch of names.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Brandon Graham, I could give you the tackle that of
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: l l SU what's his name? Banks to tackle out
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  Speaker 3: of Texas?
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  Speaker 1: Will Will Campbell out.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: LSU, Travis Hunter. He's there at five, take them. If
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: he's there at five, take them. Yeah, you run to the.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Don't it's you know?
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: And I think that's partly the problem. You know, some
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: of the best players in this draft are not necessarily
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: being talked about. So, first off, like the quarterbacks, if
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: if the position didn't merit the importance, would these two
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: guys be at the top.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: We have this a lot of years, we have this conversation.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Right, It's kind of like running back, right, running back's
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: been devalued, quarterback has been.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Really amped up in value.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Right, So we're talking about two quarterbacks at the top
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: of the draft, but we're not talking about Jenny at
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: the top of the draft because he's a running back.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's just everybody has values assigned to
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: different things. Offensive linemen, okay, big guys. Foundational players want
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: to get the running game better, right, Well, natural way
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to do that, get better offensive linemen, right, create competition.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: So could they go offensive lineman to tackle out of Texas?
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Good player tackle out? And you know, let me just
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: say this about when I talk about players. I don't
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: know if these guys are if they're intelligence, is you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: a level rocket science or box of rocks?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just watched the film. Okay, I don't know
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: if these.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Guys are.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: The kind of guy that I would want to have
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: marry my daughter or are they the kind of guy
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: that deserves to be locked up.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell all of that when
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I watched the film.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I just watched the film, and there's some good offensive
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: lineman on film. The tackle out of Ohio State who
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: had an injury last year. He might be the most
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: talented offensive lineman of.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Great athlete, the tackle Membo Missouri you're talking about, I mean,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: talk about an athlete. I don't know if he's a
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: tackle though, probably a guard. Is he better than the
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Missouri tackle we got last year?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Foster? Oh yeah, yeah, it's not even close.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, Javon Foster struggled even I think get active
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: on game.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: He maybe once or twice maybe. I mean, he's got
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: all he's got. He's got a long way to go. Okay,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: he's got a long way to go. But there's some
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: great offensive lineman the This is the.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Scenic route to the answer to the question. I don't
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: have an answer.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I told you this last week, and I'm still sticking
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: by my guns. And it was interesting because I was
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: reading one of the general manager's comments today and he
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: was talking about there is probably going to be less
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: trade activity in this draft, just because there's not most
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: likely going to be as many teams wanting to move up,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: and the general manager talked about how you can probably
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: get a player. I think it's the comment that he
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: used in the second round that's probably about the same
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: as the fourth round. I think the first round is
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: kind of similar, and that you've got those elite players
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: at the top, and then once you get past them,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: you have some players that are kind of all together,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: and so they're more than likely going to be some
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: teams looking to trade down, and which is what I
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: said from the beginning that I would love to see
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: this team trade down. But I know what you're going
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: to ask there. You can't trade and you got to
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: make a pick. Who was drafted at one, two, three,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: four before I make a pick? Well that's I mean,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't ask you that. I asked you what would
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: you like? Well, you know, I like, I like a
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame offensive lineman. Okay, that's gonna go. Is
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: there a Hall of Fame offensive lineman? Of those guys
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: you talked about, I think they're really good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a Hall of Fame offensive Okay, Well,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: then you're in the wrong draft for that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean you got to make a pick, right,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you want to get better run in
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: the football.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: You know you're going running back.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not going I thought you were about to
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: say no, no, no, no, no, I'm.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Not going running back.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, but I mean there's some offensive linemen are
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: really good in that draft. Graham's a really good player,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Mason Graham defensive tackle. What happens if Sanders is there
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: at five? You probably get now you're talking about trading down?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Could you in theory? Could you maybe? But why is
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: he sliding? I don't know, you know, that'd be a question.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe some teams are scared of drafting them because of the.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: The Dion effect.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think it's an interesting conversation.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And I think the most interesting conversation is, Look, everybody
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: expects this football team to maybe go I think on
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: first class most people either Brandon Graham or offensive line right,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: most people are thinking that. And that's where if you
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: look at all the mocks, you see that kind of
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: happening with the Jaguars quite often.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen or not. I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. We have no track record on
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: James Gladstone zero. Okay, all I know. Give me some
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: player that is intangibly rich that's going to fit in
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: the ecosystem, and that's a perennial pro bowler and if
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: he's Hall of Fame caliber guy, eventually awesome.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logan. I'm JP shattered.
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