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Chris Perkins Made His Case... O.J. and Seth Weren't Buying It | Fish Tank LIVE · The Fish Tank: Miami Dolphins Tales From The Deep

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  [SPEAKER_03]: you're now diving into the fish team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then we're back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Go fish, paint, lie, presented by Van Horlogru, and Casabella Design Group, Seth Levitt here, not from the Casabella Design Group Studios.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm from Parts Unknown, right now, which is, I've known as proud studios.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, as always, the Dolphins talk YouTube channel, and I am joined by the man with the best hands in a live podcast business.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He is O.J.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: McDuffie.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Choose.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How are we feeling, man?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, I'm feeling great, big Seth, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm loving your setup right there, bro.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's pretty nice, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely up great.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about a come up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That looks good, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He drove right there, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, are you going to toss him a hole right now, man?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, it feels like it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It definitely feels like it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm definitely, I am with the right people, just know that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you are.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you are, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I know we are parts that are unknown are right now, and it's right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But man, the great people got your width where you are or great people man and great listeners of the show man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm happy to, you know, you're able to, I'm happy you're able to join us tonight, bro, because, you know, sometimes the excitement you're all over the country, we never know where you're at.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we still don't know where you're at, but I know where you're at, but don't tell them where you're at.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We got to keep some things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little left to be desired for sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But excited to be here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't going to miss it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't just two weeks in a row.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And also excited to have the entire crew back here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So of course, MIA Jason producer legendary Savak making things happen over there in the in the garage and the panic.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sun Sentinel columnist and host of Dolphins deep dive with Perk.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He is Chris Perkins and the heart and soul of Van Horlog Group, Chad Van Horne.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're all back in action.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I should, you know, I know you said we don't know where I'm at.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know he's in the chat somewhere, but our guy Andrew Crowell is not only in the chat, but he's a lot closer to the show than he's ever been.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just introducing him in his room.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can hear him in it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if things get a little rowdy in the background, I'm just, no, no to blame.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, gentlemen, I know that's been a lot of world cup talk understandably.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: but there is actually some things going on with our Miami Dolphins.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not like in season, mid-season form.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But the first thing I need to start with, they did release their training camp schedule today, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So their training camp schedules gonna include eight practices that are open to the public.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The first one starts August 2nd.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So get that in your calendars.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I know Perk already has, as for onus work in the first day Perk or are you taking the first day off?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Ah, but every is all hands undipped first, okay, yeah, you can't have the first day off.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's like not showing up and work on the first day of the joining.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I got a chance.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was just a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't build part cells.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he took the front of the house and worked.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's an additional practice that's being offered exclusively to season ticket holders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then fans are also going to have the opportunity to view one of the joint practices with the New York Giants.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be on August 20th.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then there will be one open practice at a hard rock stadium that reminds that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell you a story.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember we used to do the open practice at the Orange Bowl juice.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We set the skirmish at the Orange Bowl.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we have that flood that time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Another story for another day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So training camps schedule has been released.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's giveaways for the first thousand fans each day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Food trucks, garage sale, and Chris Perkins is going to be out there on day one.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Chris Ferguson to be up there every day.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking forward to it, man.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm disappointed for the fans.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: There's only one joint practice that they could that they get to see.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But I think there would there would only be two of them because I think Atlanta has a joint practice here also.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not going to be available and then they go to.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Washington, Washington, I was going to say DC, right.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So, but that's fine, man.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, training camp right around the corner.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm fired up.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm off next week, but I'm just going to be killing time till training camp stars.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you, it's a sad reflection of my life, but I can't wait till camp stars.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little sad and I think I have something to say about it later in the show.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, Park, I mean, I mean, training camp obviously is way different than it was when I, you know, when I participate in training camp and the fact that they have, you know, certain number of open days and then you get an opportunity, like you talked about to, you know, go to all of them, will you be at every single practice park or will you just pick and choose?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You got to be at every single one of them, don't you?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, I choose to be at every single one of them and I think I need to be at every single one of them, especially in the first year of Jeff Hathley and Malik Willis, all the change, the rebuild, you know what's funny, you use you mentioned how training camp is different nowadays.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Y'all know that the starters get most of their work in the joint practices.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: They don't play in the preseason games.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: They usually don't do much on a regular practice.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I see at the NFL a lot of start charging for the joint practices and have the preseason game be free.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's, you want to see the guys in the joint practices, right?
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's, that's the, and the, and the UDFA's, I mean, make that free charge for the, for the joint practices.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's exciting, man.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I, you know, camp is right around the corner so many questions to answer for the dolphins.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: and I like being out there with the fans.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I see juice out there, mixing with the fans and everything, the fans love them.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I love going out there and mixing with the fans being that close.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So I can't wait for camp to start.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, need to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, easy for us to say.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I want to discuss that later.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And Chad, do the Steelers still hold training camp in La Trobe.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They do they do and before we get to that perk perk.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're signing autographs that can't write I'm sorry for people for pictures.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't sign autographs Hey And every door that comes in also those HOA do's Thank you bought new Wi-Fi
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it is a nice Pittsburgh tradition where they still make it out to the trove and the fans get to come out there.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it really what I love about preseason and this part of it and I think you guys will agree where not everybody can afford to go to an NFL game just because it's so ridiculous.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So the access that you'll get to see some of these people that you know people are crazy about.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And especially for the kids and everything else, like I feel like the players take extra time to make sure that the kids get to really see them, talk to them, and spend time with them, which clearly that can't happen during the regular season.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And if it does, it's going to be at a premium sponsored by some premium ad partner of the NFL.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So for me, that's the
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, big Seth, you know, the best part about the trob is really rolling rock beer, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we keep it a buck, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's keep it a buck here, man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Rolling rock is, you know, brewed in the, in the trob, and hopefully the stillers, because I don't like them, you know, hopefully they partaking a lot of the trob, you know, rolling rock beer while they're in training camp.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That'd be a great situation for anybody's playing to get some NFC.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because of an FCT, I want them to enjoy the atmosphere, you know, the mountains and the beers that are going on right there in the tropics of the thing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of a boost.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of it's something.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's what's funny about that, though, is like that is the only distraction that there is in the tropics.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I had to advance a golfing stealer's preseason game so I had to go up two or three of these or two or three days early to a preseason game in the trove I slept in one of the dorm rooms there on a shot
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I slept at a cot in the dormant room.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to help, and I knew he here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so I had my own training camp experience.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they picked the right guy because you were going to go out and kick it.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: You were going to go for another getting into the right way.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I had to advance that that game because Seth is going to be all about business.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to sleep on the cot.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to get the information we need.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to bring all the hard copies of the newspapers back to us.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: All the things that we need.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't sit my ass in the choke because I didn't find a way to get the Pittsburgh.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might've done the Cleveland.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might've found a way to get all the way across the Philadelphia.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he said I'm in the wrong way to do it advanced on that game.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, actually.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I find none of the players were ever sent out.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do the dolphins have anything like that where they have to bunk at a certain place or they're always coming from home.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's funny that you asked.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, juice would know about this, but he used to have to stay and rolling hills.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is when they were in Davy, prior to that, St. Thomas University.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean I wouldn't know about that?
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I don't know.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's some bed check rumors that, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to go ahead and ask, I try to just throw it in their slick like and nobody would have said it.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go there.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when the dolphins did training camp in Davy, they would have to stay at in rolling hills.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So rolling hills, now is grand oaks and you know, beautiful private golf course.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rolling hills was a public golf course, the old catty shot golf course and the hotel.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: was damn near rundown.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't quite the same time at the university, it was in bad shape from what I understand the mattresses were a little rough on OJ's back.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he might stop by the hotel for a little night treatments if I could find bed check came around.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what deal he had going on there, but rumor has been, you know, what rumor you supposed to be in and rolling hills
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, I was on the first floor.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's all the matter, big set.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Be it on the first floor was critical with a sliding glass store out the back door.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, bottom line was this man.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, as as as as a young jitter and then as I got older, you know, I had back problems big sets.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I take this.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I take, I'll take that to my grave that I had back problems where you know, I need to sleep in my own bed.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough about my own bear was only 10 minutes away and as long as I was back to training camp in time What's the point like you know me what's the point me staying there when I can go home get a good night's sleep and have a great day I worked the next day That's the true professional, but what happens if like 85 other guys all took that same approach?
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they better show up and have a great day at work the next day.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they didn't, they need to keep the ass in the hotel and those regular ass beds, you know what I mean?
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: And all of that, the only that, man, you had to go, I mean, I'm glad it's rolling hills is going, you had to fumigate that damn thing two days before you went there.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, man, you had to put a, you know, you had to put a, you had to fog that thing first because, you know, I'll see.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: by myself, but I might have had a company.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying in that room, man.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, it wasn't a company that I wanted.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was a company that had a little smaller, way smaller, and they were like, you know, our wings.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna do it.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was just how I had a brother, you know what I mean?
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's actually funny in the local media in Pittsburgh, and I assume it would have it for Miami as well, where they show the luxury items that are bringing in, and there are guys that bring in mattresses.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we had those rookies.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was on the golf course.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, you said that catty sack golf course.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: We had to run out to one of the greens, but Nicky.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Does the green and run back.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was part of this.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's minor hazing right there, right?
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: They said by with bags over their head with bags over the head, because we didn't want anybody to know who they were.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sure the biggest problem for them was probably that they didn't recognize it, no matter what because I mean make it with back on the head.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave it there.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll leave it there.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll leave it there.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're already in the legal zone, isn't it?
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're looking for a topic, Chad, and I think we landed one.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Perk, I know you've been all wrapped up in the World Cup, but you still have had time to write.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I always keep up with what you're writing.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: On July 6th,
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: You wrote an article and I got I got to read this headline.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just got to read this headline.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can go from there.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can Dolphin's trio of H. and Brewer Brooks outperform marino Taylor Thomas.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pert.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Help me out here, man.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Help me out.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: At least now, I mean, I don't write the titles.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't write the headlines.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what what are we talking about, man?
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, with Chad is my legal counsel here.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I will say I did write that if not I'm going to get I probably shouldn't I probably shouldn't have said anything.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: So here's what the column was about if you read it
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, so, you know, if you're a team, you have your leadership trio or your leadership group.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Back in the day, Marino and J.C. and Zach were a leadership group.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: It goes to, you know, whoever you want to say, Ryan Tentahill, Mike Poncey and Rashad Jones.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Last year with the Dolphins, it's Tua and it's Waddle and it's, and it's high-reak.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: This year with the dolphins, it's A-chan, it's through, and it's Brooks.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about the playoff performance over multi-year period.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: The marino and J-T and Z-group was from 98 to 2000.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: They were three and three in the playoffs, and I know Dan didn't play in 2000.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: That was J-Feedler.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's the standard.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what you have to do.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: So can A-chan, Brooks, and Brew over a three, four-year period, equal or surpassed three playoff victories, and I'll go a little bit further if they don't.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would have a hard time calling this rebuild a success because that's not a really high standard that you're talking about right three playoff wins and three years.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's very respectable, but that's not a high standard if you don't do that.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure that this rebuild is a success, but that's what I'm getting at this leadership group.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if they're together for five years, but that's what it was about a leadership trio and what can you produce in the playoffs?
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but you recognize, and maybe it was, don't smoke crack, you know, you recognize, and again, maybe it was intentional, that when you throw those three names out, and three players that were very happy to have on this team.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next to Dan Moreno, Jason Taylor's Act Thomas, three Hall of Famers, and Mount Rushmore Type Dolphins, and it made me the greatest pure pastor in the history of the professional football.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that intentional so that you make sure people are going to read this thing on July 6th?
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: or I know you're talking about the playoff wind piece and we're gonna talk about that in a second.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you're talking about the playoff wind piece, but when you mention those three guys, you're almost setting them up for failure to say can they outperform these three guys.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's a headline, that's designed to be provocative, designed to get you.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, and this is a compliment to the queen.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if you read like three or four paragraphs into it, it explains, it puts the context to it.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: And so I know that people want 140 characters now, right?
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what you want, you know, when a read, you know, eight paragraphs or 12 paragraphs,
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's what it was.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is this leadership trio.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: What can you accomplish that this is this is kind of your standard of if you're going to be a successful trio of this crew is going to be successful.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is what you need to match for surpass and and you know, I think that's a fair standard for them.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it isn't it isn't and and this is why I'll say that aside from the fact that those are three icons here, yes, but this is year one of a rebuild so you're counting they in the next three years starting 98 was was Jimmy Johnson's third year as coach.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: and and you had a veteran player like a damn arena you didn't have a quarter back that's really getting his first opportunity to be a star yet you know you had all the you had a whole different scenario there you had a mix of veterans you had to go to meet up he's in the
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and Sam and Pat looked like we're developed in that time.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: 98, you know, he was in his second year, JT in the second years, I can his third year, but you're, you're, A-chan, Brewer, and Brooks, if you're saying in the next three years, the odds of them having to play off when this year.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: are, I mean, zero, right?
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're basically saying that they have to win three playoff games in two years, or it's a failure.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I never see it failure.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The word, you just read a thing.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't that you look at it.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: This rebuild is a failure.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, that the rebuild can't be called a success.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you?
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you didn't achieve as much as you wanted to do.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Then we're in a failure.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's like labeling a drafty of bust.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I wouldn't say that I don't know it's too early to say for Kenneth Grant.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I wouldn't let you, there's room between bust and you didn't turn out the way people hoped.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what this would be.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you, you know, there's a middle ground there.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: right there can be a middle ground but but I'll throw this out to y'all um what is the standard to deem this rebuild a success to you so to me it means some postseason success but what would you guys what where would you love a lot yeah that's a great great point perk you know most teams don't most teams don't achieve every single year
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Only one team achieves every year, right?
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, some team surprises, they're getting to play also due to certain things, but most teams will underachieve because everybody's goal is one goal, and that's when they're all winning your division first and foremost, when you're comfort second, then winning it all after that.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So most teams don't don't achieve what they set out to do.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm with you on that, when it comes to a team that is honestly,
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Strap.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at it.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Half our salary cap is, you know, it's damn money.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: We got 13 draft picks.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, success with this team is anything other, I think for me, anything over what Vegas is telling us.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's my success at this team, but I do feel like what you're saying perka is important because we got a nucleus, because these guys talked about a nucleus of guys and they've got these nucleus of guys that they've resigned for the most part.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean and I think that those are the guys that you know that have to go out there and and over achieved what that J. T. Emorino did you know we didn't we didn't do shit.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: She was my friends so fuck.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, with all these great players, I play with three Hall of Famers.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I play for a Hall of Fame coach.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got a couple other guys that's probably being the Hall of Fame that I play with, and we didn't achieve anything.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so it'd be great for these guys that go out there and in my opinion, over a cheese in the next one to two years because we're not expected to do much.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: When you got, we look at Vegas and we're expected a four and a half, what's over on the four and a half win?
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's all right, come on man.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's first picking the draft most of the time versus second, right?
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So when we're talking about stuff like that, a situation where, you know, these guys have to have a bigger window.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We have to have a longer
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, a time to get to where we need to get because they're so strapped.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Marino Zach wasn't strapped when he came in, right.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: JT wasn't strapped when he came in.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Marino wasn't strapped when he came in.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Those guys had teams already that were pretty good when they fucking came into the league.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean, and so these guys now these guys now that have been dismantled with a lot of guys they we've lost and then a salary cap problem and a lot of young guys I got to give those guys a you know I think I give them a longer run way
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: to be successful because they're they're they're extra more than any team any players that I've seen or any group that I've seen come in here even though we kept this nucleus a guy's I do love the nucleus but the rest of it is so wrong that you know it's tough for those guys to be able to achieve any time so you know let me let me let me say a couple of things real quick Jews I thought you're seeing I thought
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: almost maximize their potential.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: You were limited at quarterback when you had J.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Fee learn the other teams.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Either the offense was there in the defense was there in the offense wasn't.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: I thought this previous group of dolphins, the two-inch I read, J. and Wattleday left way too much meat on the bone.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I thought you guys pretty much maximize your potential pretty much.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I have no problem with your era, another thing here is that when I look at, when you say they need a longer runway, you don't have that nowadays, look at what Jacksonville did, look what New England did, look what didn't Detroit did, look what Denver did.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Teams are turning these things around in two and three years, and that's what you, that's the standard you have to hold this group of dolphins to fear or not.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of the way turnaround and rebuilds are done nowadays in a, in a fail.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then after that, I would also say that, yeah, I can't, I just can't make the excuse that, you know, these other dolphins seems
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't, no excuses.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is a grown man's league.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's a results orientately.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now I'll say this.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I've said the bottom line for this season, the major objective is not the one loss record.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's to make sure you have the right people in place starting with Sully and Half and Willis.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then making sure that you have the right mentality and mindset.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: then it's the one loss record.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, don't don't be me three wins, but you've got to do that other stuff first.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Perk.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So here's and Michael leave it just brought it up in the chat.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the the 800 pound gorilla in the room that we're ignoring.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: This team hasn't won a playoff game in 25 years.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good hour thing that these guys are going to win three in the next three years.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: This year, it's not going to happen, right?
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to set it's not going to happen this year.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that means you're going to have to win three in the following two years, which means at least one of those seasons, they're going to be a conference championship game.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and if they don't do that, it's not a success.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't, the math isn't math-ing for me.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's a low standard set.
• 25:53
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• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know you know that's how that's how you do it.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you've got to figure out a way that the Rams do the F. Those picks
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they get the free agents, but if you look at the Rams, they also develop picks in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, right?
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Cam, Kenchens, and all those guys, so you've got to figure out a way, I don't want to hear the excuses.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sympathetic.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm reasonable.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm understanding.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not an excuse.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be realistic here, Perk, in terms of what you're setting it, I don't think it is a low standard to say that if they win two playoff games instead of three, that it's still successful.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying that if they, if they want to be the most successful trio in the last 20 years or whatever, they need to, like, try to win one of us.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know, but again, like, look at my Jacksonville did and Denver and, like, look, it was no, you didn't compare them, your, your, your headline, your provocative headline didn't
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Miami Dolphins.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm completely comparing eras, not players.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not comparing a chance to marino and, and, you know, J. T. To brew and Z.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: To brew, right?
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the era is you're a collective achievement in this in this set number years and by the way,
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: HM Brooks and through probably get three years together right because Brooks and through are 28 years old.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to be on the wrong side of 30 pretty soon.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: HM weighs 191 pounds.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure he's going to be productive for another four years.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Three yet.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, there is a clock on this team.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm this trio from that standpoint that
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, but again, if they don't do it, if they don't get three playoff wins in three years, I'm not necessarily going to call them a failure.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's way too harsh.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It would just be they're not the most successful trio in the last 20 years of Dolphins history, but you can still have had a good rebuild.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would just not call it a successful rebuild.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we talk about Dan Campbell a lot and you look at some, you know, his start, his start in Detroit, you know, we talk about starting off O10 and one is first year, right, one and six his second year correct, you know, me and then finally getting off to a good start his third year, that mean that, that right there, if, if we're going to allow that, we have to allow our guys considering what they're coming into the same opportunity, right?
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Dan Campbell was honestly a failure as a head coach.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was great here, but then when he got aside to Detroit, he wasn't very, you know, obviously very good, and then they figured it out.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I mean, I think that
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fact that these guys came in, like I said, so hand-cuffed at the beginning, is it about the players that we're talking about as the new clears, or we're talking about the coaches and the new coach, I mean, obviously, the new coach and the staff that's coming in to have to rectify what's been happening for over all these years.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like you said, big chef, you know, Mike said, if they get one, if they find a way to win a playoff game in the next couple of years,
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be on some beats like I used to be back in the day, bro.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, but is that success of success?
• 29:55
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• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: but you know I'm always down there so that's not new for me.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not with us.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay well you guys tell me generally what would it one play off win over the next two years and you would call it a rat you would give out the contract.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know Do we just say that okay defines successful rebuild for me generally?
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Generally what would you say?
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: To play off wins over a four year stretch or what?
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The reality is that the bar has been lowered so far here in South Florida, but it is but perk it is this town that you know, I'm going to go bigger picture here and I tell this to all of my me guys and everybody else think it upset there is no
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: bigger team, no bigger fanbit.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Miami Dolphins are what this town is about.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody, my whole, my, my son never grew up.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't seen the Miami Dolphins.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put 60,000 asses in that stadium, and they have it won a playoff game in 25 years.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is a fad.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: The dolphins are embedded into the DNA of South Florida.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so what I'm telling you is,
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: If Jeff has, what are you trying to tell me, Big Seth?
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are you trying to tell me?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: If Jeff has a John Eric Sullivan can squeeze a playoff win in the next two years, it is a massive success.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the bar resets after that.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: but it will be, so it will become a massive success.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And especially you're saying next two years, when nobody believes they're gonna win more than four and a half games this year.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if they win in the next two years, one playoff game.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they win three like you're talking about, they have surpassed what Dan and JT injected from the standpoint of success on the field, because they will run to a conference championship game, most likely.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I think that that would be a massive success, but then the bar resets and then the standard has to be reset as well.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: See, I wouldn't, I wouldn't call one playoff victory after two years that the rebuild is a success.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would say that you're off to a great start, fantastic start.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: You have turned his, you've got a, well, like, what would you say would, so with Jackson bill last year, you would say that that rebuild is a success.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jacksonville hadn't gone 25 years with that.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it is, you're already comparing them to that standard.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is already successful, but now the bar reset and now the expectation and you to rise, you know what, and I'm going to, I'm sorry, juice, I apologize, but Jimmy Johnson used to say that the stakes get higher the more that you win.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then the the more you win, the games become more important.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The stakes get higher.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're held to a higher standard.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: The quarterbacks are being evaluated more strictly.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so right now, the bar is so low that, yes, one playoff win.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because look how many coaches couldn't do it.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look how many coaches.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody seems to me like that.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: But with a playoff game.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I, you know, um, I think the standard is too low around here.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's why we said that we said that's it's been set of a 25 years has been set that low.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know her.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's so low in like in 2023.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I was preaching this.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was writing this that this is not a team that's hit it for playoff success because you can't beat good teams We were right of a damn that you was scored 70 against Denver Woohoo, the next week you went and got your butt kicked him Buffalo 48 to 20.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what matters That's the standard Buffalo
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: not Denver, Buffalo is the standard.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you failed to meet that standard.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then after that, you thought, you did meet that standard.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you gave out all these ill-advised, contract extensions, including the Tua, and that's what you're in this situation right now.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: So you've got to break your standard.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can stop and smell the roses, and I do that in life, and I appreciate that.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's nothing wrong with that, but don't have that be your destination.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's just a stop on the way.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: to your destination.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to tell you this part.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to tell you this, man, and I love that you brought the Denver game because we talked to Eric as a comma.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he told me, he told us, Seth and I, that after that game, they all changed in that locker room, bro.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: think the leaders in that locker room all changed and they didn't work as hard as they used the work.
• 35:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't do they thought because they dropped a 70 burger that they could roll out any day after that and roll out a 70 burger.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that was their, that was their detriment.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's when they started, you know, reed in their own press clippings as my, that's my high school coach who said, your jump attorney say, don't read your own press clippings.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: And these guys started reed in their own press clippings.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the work was not there after that, you know.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I think what a boils down to, what we're talking about, we're talking about so many different things here.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: do we have the right guys now that are going to be able to take success, build on success, or take success and rest on their laurels?
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And these guys, I think this coach's staff hopefully won't let these guys take a 70 burger and party around Miami the whole time and get not be ready for the next game like you talk about getting blown out.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, when they take that 70 burger, if they ever get one again,
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: and build on that and be able to go out there and learn from that.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: But also more importantly, learn from what they did wrong in that game.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just think the mentality is all the mentality is so has to be different with its football team than it was with the last regime and a lot of
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hot garbage, hot garbage, trash, waste management, for sure.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Senator, not even, not even recyclable, you know what I mean?
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was straight up.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so now we just got to make sure we got the right people with the right mindset when you when you have success, you take that success and build from it and not sit back and like not do the things that got you that success.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's what happened with the last group of people.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: So speaking of hot garbage.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: ESPN.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, nice.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a nice segue.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a segue.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: What is this way?
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they ranked the Miami Dolphins as having the worse roster in the national football league.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What you got Chad, you thought the stealer should have been 32?
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was, I was, I thought we'd come up with a percussive walk.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize what's going on.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is that?
• 37:33
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• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's been a good chat.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, ESPN ranked the dolphins as having the worst roster in the national football league.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bring this up for two reasons.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, does that change what your expectations are of this team perk?
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you agree with ESPN that this is the worst roster in the national football league?
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I asked that question, everybody, in terms of, and I'm going to be the first to say, I have not compared the dolphins roster to all 31 other rosters in the league, but it seems a little extreme to say it's the worst roster in the national football league.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can agree with it, but but I'm with you with cares cares because it's partly by design right when when you take that that's right.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know you're not going to be a top flight roster.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not like the result of a failed strategy.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: it's by design.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then the second part of that is, let's see what they are at the end of the year.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's more important, right?
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: The 2019 Dolphins, right?
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: We know they started off 0 and 7.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: We know the first three games they got out score 1, 33 to 16, but they finished five and four that season, right?
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, five and 11 seasons.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm fine with that at the ESPN.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: The dolphins are low hanging fruit, right?
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they're up in the bag right now.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's easy.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: But let's see what they are at the end of the season.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like you said, I like the mentality of Sully and half.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: This group wouldn't take a 70-burder in and relax.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: They would focus.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like the mentality that is forming with this team.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I think by the end of the season, if they are 32 now and they might be, I don't think they will be by the end of the season.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and also a big sense, you think about it.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: When you got a team that's going to be full of rookies or second year guys, I mean, you can't, how do you evaluate a roster like that?
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: When you've got, you know, our whole B line or going into a second year base, the other than Sealer.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, you've got a whole 13 draft picks that are counting on half of those guys to play.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you've got a new quarterback.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got the whole group of wide receivers that haven't been here other than Malik, Washington.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah, you got to you got to take that with a grain of salt because you got to look at the guys that that haven't been here haven't been around see when you evaluate a roster you got to think that's probably pretty accurate when most rosters have a veteran presence a veteran quarterback of solid defense or a run game or whatever might be so I mean.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love being the people that people are, I love being the punching bag.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I really do agree with that.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: As an organization, because, you know, these guys hopefully have some pride about themselves.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And these guys, hopefully, you know, I mean, want to prove people wrong to a point where, you know, that, you know,
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got to get out there and strap it up every single Thursday Friday, Saturday, Monday, two, what did, you know, NFL plays every day at a week, whatever, whatever day they're playing nowadays, but something is really any, any given Sunday, we can go out there and get a 70 burger put on you or you can put a 70 burger on somebody.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's this, this real football, man.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then playing any college ball, man.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You go out there and play.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, I love Eastern Michigan, but hey, we knew we was going to put 50 on Eastern Michigan.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was just a guarantee, you know, like, hey, I was going to, I was going to build my stats up before I put 150 on my end, the University of Miami, you know, you know, so by the time I got the U of M, I had 350 to the age, you know what I mean?
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm just saying, it doesn't happen like that in the league, man.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I just think that these guys, no matter what, I want them to read these press clippings.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want them to have some motivation.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: When people are telling them 30 seconds in the league when it comes to a roster, when people are telling them that their team is not going to be very good.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: When they're telling them they're going to win no more than four games.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was in that locker right now.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I know me being a big voice that I was in that locker room.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Once I was allowed to, you know, sometimes you guys got to wait, you know, Chad, you got to wait to be the big voice, you know, in a locker room, and two of the other big voices, either are quiet or they're gone, which both kind of happened in my situation, you know.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, wait a minute, we're quick.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, Perk, I was part of, I was was Zach and J.T.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why not me Zach and J.T.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you put Marina in there, that's messed up bro.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I won MVP twice of Marina on the roster.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I should have set Perk.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: If I was going to do the course, you were the next name, but I did it three times.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's only one of the numbers games.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's it.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And just who was on the score that was on the last playoff game?
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I forget.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going that squad.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And Reno wasn't.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was down.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I got a couple of big plays in that game, too, Chad.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: My pencil has turned on me.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never approved the headline, I never approved the headline, I never approved the headline, I never approved the headline.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: There it is.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got a jump on your attorney in front of everybody.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't you get a new counseling meeting?
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got a jump on his ass.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, one more thing while we're talking about rankings.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to get into the legal zone.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But also ESPN and ESPN didn't make this decision.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe when I understand they have their annual position rankings.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they survey league executives, coaches, scouts, and they rank.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: different positions and Devon H and did make the list of top 10 running backs but he was ranked eighth.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't know how many of you subscribed to Miami Dolphins today.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great newsletter that's a profile network guy's put out.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Miami Dolphins today.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been subscribing to it lately and I really like to stuff they're doing.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were hurt by this ranking of A for Devon HN.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're headline, hurt, that in the provee either.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was that Devon HN was offended by this ranking.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to ask you guys again, and Chad just stepped away, but since this isn't strictly dolphins,
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do we think eight is okay?
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Should we be offended if we thought he should have been six and he's eight like is, is that a slight, do we want him to be slighted a little bit?
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, boy, Tyree Kill was pretty excited when he was the number one overall rated player by his peers and then you know, then the wheels fell off.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how do we feel about an eighth?
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chad, I'll start with you because your guy who looks beyond just the Dolphins roster.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about the Von Hmb right is the eighth overall running back in the league?
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hate rankings like this.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad you started with me, but because you first of, you don't know exactly who's ranking him.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And obviously every team in the NFL would like a player like Devon HF.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: They would like Devon HF.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to fit him, but it's always like at what price are you going to pay him?
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's all these other balances that go into.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody wants him on their squad.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: and anybody that won't win is stupid and to be talk eight in the world at the running back position is pretty ridiculous.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was writing a separate, separate article from this.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the guys that I really wanted on the USA men's team because I think he would fit in the other team.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we could have had him because he just is such a talented, athlete individual.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know he's not the biggest guy, but he feels so many roles.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think you can take it as a slide at all.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the worry for anybody that's ranking maybe the longevity because he's not the biggest guy.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's undersized, right?
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's undersized guy, which is understandable, but when he gets the ball, he produces.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what?
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Slider-sized guys don't use to get hit very hard, Chad, and that's what, you know, when they're that fast, you know, I mean, if you want to rank some running backs, look at their vice fantasy league, man.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look, look at your fantasy league.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Devon HM will be the eighth running back, taking off the board in fantasy football.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: come, you know, August or whatever, people start picking.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I noticed some great running back here.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got, you know, a calfer here and you got gifts and you got, you know what I mean?
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you got all these guys that are really good, you know, beach on robbers and obviously it's top, but it's not, but you got some dudes when the Von H.N.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: when you combine this ability to run the rock and catch the rock, he won't be, he won't last to eight in the fantasy football draft, you know, when it comes to something like that.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think that, his ability now,
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: And as much as we're gonna use him this year, it's gonna be special, man.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it is a slight, I really do.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's some guys that are good, you know, you talk about, like I said, be John and say, Juan and all those dudes, they're nice, but I'm gonna say what?
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: The young gun, who was our guy, our guy's the young gun right now.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: We talk about these running bags.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: McCaffrey will be on the field.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's one of the guys probably ranked higher to him.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Will he be on the field the whole time?
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: The Vaude HN is a young dude that's going to just just get better and better every single year.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I can only imagine how many ways they're going to be able to use him and our offense, you know, with Malik will ascend the battle.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, in certain creativity they're going to be able to come up with.
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's definitely like.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: because you got to guide that.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: We found out last year, a big set that could run for many cycles out of the sea can catch the ball.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, all the backfield, I hate it that they had and run a Y receiver rouse because he
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can't run, why was he for rounds?
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know I'm that dude.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was just at the pro bowl.
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm that dude, and I can he is that dude, man.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking forward to him having a big season and looking forward to seeing the creative things they come up with for him.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Real quick set of just between each running back, their first running back, man.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a razor thin and a lot has to have.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And on paper, they raise a thin when they put it out there and print.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't open.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's wide open, Chad.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the number, whoever the number one to hear gives, whoever it is, like we're on the same spot every one.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's on his one gives his two.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a great razor thing between.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he was putting the right situation and hopefully is this year, he could be the number one or number two.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just depends on the situation.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know that.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: As a line receiver, you need the right quarterback.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need the offensive line.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Same thing with the running back.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: One minute.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say this.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's offensive line.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would love to run behind those big in that first.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would love to hide.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'd love to run left.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what they have said.
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'd, I would run it.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And yo, I'll be late.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: If they, we're really lucky.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be in the backfield called Riverside Riverside.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, split it.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, flip it.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's run left and stay.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look, we want to have the advantage on the left side, but our weight, our mass on the left side is way bigger than anybody else's mass on the left side.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Here, right side.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, good stuff.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know what, I think that, first of all, I think the, the, the voting was done by GMs and scouts.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: If I'm not mistaken, Jeremy Fowler did it for ESPN, but I've been pulled GMs and scouts.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's an honor for HM.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really do, and I think it's a good ranking for him.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: off the top of my head, who's in front of him, Seth B. John and Jamir Gams and C.M.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: C. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a solid group.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Look, I think there's an honor for ancient because you have been the number three offensive option right behind Tyreek and Jalen Bottle.
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: You steal ball last year You prove that you can stay healthy.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can be that alpha male when the offense goes to crap.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: You were the guy who held it together.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that's recognition of that also ancient hasn't done it for that long
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: So this is also recognition of, hey, three years, your number eight and you're still on the rise.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's all positive for HN.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really do know, and I'll go Jimmy Johnson, who you quoted earlier, Seth, as you have more success, the barbos higher.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I think right now for what HN has done, 8 is accurate, 8 is an honor.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: After next year, maybe you could say he should be five or six or whatever, but I'm really do think that's a fair, accurate, honorable recognition of what A.C. and has done.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chad, my headline, I just want to make sure you're okay with this Chris Perkins.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: A.C. and your eighth annual like it.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You go with that.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: A.C. and your eighth annual like it.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your eighth annual like it.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or this.
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I just want to make sure.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're still right.
• 51:47
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• 51:48
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• 51:48
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• 51:49
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• 51:52
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• 51:52
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• 51:53
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• 51:53
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• 51:54
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• 51:55
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• 51:56
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• 51:56
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• 51:57
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• 51:58
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• 51:58
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• 51:59
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• 52:00
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• 52:00
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• 52:01
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• 52:02
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• 52:04
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• 52:05
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• 52:06
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• 52:08
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• 52:09
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• 52:10
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• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They brought the country, a lot of energy, a lot of excitement.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then they pulled a dolphins move and they shit the bed.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: They put a dolphins move and they shit the bed.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put a dolphin move and they shit the bed.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I really hope, and I previewed it earlier that I was going through who the best 11 we can put out there as far as athletes.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we had our athletes start five years old playing soccer the entire time.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we would dominate the world.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the problem is, we have our 1,000 best athlete.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it shows, because these guys, from these small countries, too, like compared to our countries, these small countries, they just dominate.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it was in hard rock stadium, I'll still call it hard rock stadium, because I'm not going to Miami Stadium.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: FIFA's not paying me shit, so I don't give it down.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's only one team that we can cheer for, and it is my neighbor, Lino Messi, even though they might have cheated as well.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a flag?
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's definitely a flag.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, that's my neighbor.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all good.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's what we're doing for a lot of it out.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have people like Lino Messi, so no Argentina, the legal zone today was taken care of earlier today,
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it really brought so much excitement.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you should have seen, I don't know, have you seen the crowd around my office for the Columbia when they were there?
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's 100,000 people.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just there for the bus to go.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, Chris is a co-worker.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: David Lyons was in my office, reporting from my office.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was nowhere to like park or seat.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, people has been great for the community.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wish the United States would have went farther and take the over on Dolphins victories this year.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all done.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is like a legal zone.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I try to tell y'all.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all their weapons.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We won't come back to him later.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're longer.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Chad.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's fabulous.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, juice your kind of kicking off.
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I try to tell y'all, but kind of not.
• 54:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I guess I am.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess I'm going to try to kick this shit off.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, come on.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can try.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about, he's going to start talking to you like a kicker.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so we're all kind of on the same page here.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think Perk has said he can't tell.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: He might be on the same page with you know, this I tried to tell y'all's really inspired by a tweet by my man, Mauricio, you know.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I tried to tell y'all, y'all been hyping these boys up like they, they're built for the bright lights.
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like the moments going to elevate them.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, on the biggest stages when the world was watching
• 55:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And United States men's national team straight wet the bed and I try to tell y'all to a tongue of a law, you know, the kid with the arm talent, the quick release, the rhythm in the pocket, regular season wizard, but when the lights get national and the pressure hits,
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Turner was piled up, big moments shrink, and the doubts that always lingered come roaring back.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: We saw that Miami, those cold weather games, those playoff spots, those times were, all most wasn't enough.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now he's in Atlanta and fighting for snaps.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: talent never been the question with to a big stage killer in state now we're still waiting for that chapter for him intermoleak willus this is exactly why to make Miami dolphins moved on and put the keys in his hands do a threat minutes with a lead athleticism a cannon for an arm and legs that can extend place for or our punished defenses on the ground in big games he brings that swagger that play making a billy that flips the script
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: scrambling out of trouble, hitting deep shots and keeping defense honest with his mobility.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: No more watching the pocket collapsed and the play died.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I love more in anything.
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Will this creates when it matters?
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And call whether games, I forget about it.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: We saw what he can do in Green Bay, driving in the frozen tundra where others fall.
• 57:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's built for those brutal conditions, strong base, toughness and ability to run through the snow.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: while still delivering strikes.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Miley finally has a quarterback who doesn't disappear when the win-house and the temperatures drop.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Piss me rolling.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a, you know, two pot, you know, there you go into this big moment with two pot energy outlaws in the field refusing to fold under pressure.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Change ain't common if you keep doing the same thing.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll just got that warrior spirit.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Keep your head up, perk through the storms.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: hit on with the unexpected and rise above the skeptics.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: This ain't football.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's survival of the fittest on the biggest stages.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, meanwhile, U.S. Women's National Team shows exactly how it's done.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: While the men collapse on the grand stage, the women keep delivering winning world cups, Olympic gold, and stepping up when the world is watched.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: They bring that clutch mentality, that resilience, that championship pedigree time, and time again.
• 58:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: No excuses, just results.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the standard.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then you got, again, the US Men's National Team, hosting the World Cup on home soil.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: nation behind them, golden generation vibes, and then they land egg against Belgium in the round of 16, lose them four to one.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, Tim Reim, he had the most awful night of anybody ever seen in soccer, you know?
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we could say Trump cursed them, but 45, 47 was on the pitch.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't even out there.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So my goodness, Matt, a claps on a night where America expected magic,
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: the same old story.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Promise, flash, then the way to the moment hits and poof dreams deferred again.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look, I love the athletes.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love the grind.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I played Mr. Football Mayor in the Penn State to catch the past memory on Sundays.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know what it tastes, but I know this.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Talent, this is you to stage.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Part, focus, education, execution, and the right fit.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: when millions are watching, that's what separates.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Two in the US, men's, national team, show flashes, then fold it.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Willis, he's a type of, you know, I think you can rise to the spot and he's gonna be doing well.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Two-pock.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I keep, I love two-pock.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Turn and paying the power and doubt into dominance.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: To women prove it, it's always possible.
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Y'all keep making excuses, whether, reps, they were due, whatever.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I try to tell y'all, proof is in the pudding.
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Big stays, performances don't lie.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Time to build different with Malik under center.
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Time to demand more like Purp said.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you have.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Not like it.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Two pun, women's national team, men's national team, dolphins, too.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Move it everything.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like it.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like that.
• 1:00:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna be hard to follow.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're, well, they're, well, they're, well, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're
• 1:00:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while too weeks.
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
• 1:00:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear about that.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a fun podcast.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not here.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not here.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not in this space, gentlemen.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I got to sit seriously.
• 1:00:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Savak is very serious tonight.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Perk.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to follow it.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you try to tell us?
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: I tried to tell you there are comparisons between dolphins fans and US men's national team fans.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: and the common denominator is disappointment.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: And look, the Dolphins fans, I've always compared both of these two fan bases to Lucy and Charlie Brown, you know, when Charlie Brown is going to kick the football and every time he's just confident, Lucy is going to keep that ball there.
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: He runs up to it, he pulls the ball and he falls on his back.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what happens to Dolphins fans.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what happens to U.S.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel for both groups, but my frustration and greater for the men's national team fans, because my whole life, for over 50 years, I've been here and that the men's national team is about to turn a corner.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're about to get good.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Soccer is under rise and enthusiasm is high, and the end is just disappointment.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: And what I hate is everybody makes excuses for them.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, good effort.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Good job.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure that it was a good effort.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure that it was a good job.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: You beat Paraguay, that was great.
• 1:02:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: You beat Australia, that was expected.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You lost the turkey.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: I understand you were resting a lot of people.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: You beat a bad bobbin' your team.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: They might have been the worst team in the round of 32.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then you get smoked by Belgium.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I look, there's really no shame in getting beaten by Belgium.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: The US, if I'm not mistaken, was 16 in the world, and Belgium was number eight.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Belgium was supposed to win, but they were shook.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: They were shook all night.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: They were never in that game, and that's what disappoints me, and that's what makes me feel bad for the US men's national team fans, myself included.
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: So,
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are similarities between the flight and disappointment of these two fan groups.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hope good things are coming for both of them for the dolphins this year for the US men's national team.
• 1:03:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll talk about you in another four years out of sight out of mind.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not a soccer fan.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the way it is.
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I feel bad for both fan bases.
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see similarities.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: I try to tell you.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: mm-hmm.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a set.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need a 12 second.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I try to tell y'all.
• 1:03:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got it, bud.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can tell it's a box time.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Great start first.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take some time.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I try to tell you, one of my heroes in my life, is my grandfather, and he played soccer growing up.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He came over from England, and his brother, Robert Crabdock, played it for the 1950 FIFA World Cup team.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was part of the first squad.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: that ever be England in football.
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we just celebrated something about being England a few days ago.
• 1:03:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like this match might have hurt worse, honestly.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this match might have hurt worse, honestly.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this match might have hurt worse, honestly.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this match might have hurt worse, honestly.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I grew up.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know I look like a football player
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or a basketball player or anything else that I grew up playing soccer like from two-three years old and with my my my Uncle Bob and my grandfather His name's Thomas Graddock, but they told me some fantastic stories and in the rifle time That's right That's that's that's not dude.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's my dude.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's my dude
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is amazing, though, how the world impacts.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know we talked about a little bit last, last, I think last, we talked about two weeks ago as well, where people are seeing the United States for what it is.
• 1:05:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a great country.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll come in here, obviously politics and the national whatever.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: What you come here and you meet the real people and you see amazing people on podcast like this, you understand what we're about and and I'll never forget my grandfather and my uncle were that and they were so proud that they were part of that team that beat England.
• 1:05:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: and brought soccer to America or football to America and then called it soccer.
• 1:05:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were, and they were two, they were two of the people too.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we are not calling it football, like, this is soccer.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're in America.
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is what it is, and we beat your ass.
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we did, 1776, and that's what they did, and that's what they did.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of part of my legacy.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just wanted to bring that up because,
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know my unfortunately both are passed away at this point, but they passed down those stories for so many years.
• 1:06:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Awesome stuff.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Awesome stuff.
• 1:06:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Except before you do yours, man.
• 1:06:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I echo what Chad is talking about, man, because it has been great.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think we talked about this a little bit before we got on the air about how everybody around the world is loved.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: everything about America and honestly when it comes to World Cup or Olympics and things like that that's the only time I've seen this country comes together as one you know and and honestly you know it's it sucks that we are so divided you know certain things but one thing we all do love is this country
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: and we love why some of these go out there and compete, you know, and especially as one wearing that red wine blue and some people get it twisted.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: They think people hate them and nobody in America hates America.
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: nobody.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody that comes to America wants to be in America.
• 1:06:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, a lot of people that come in now experiencing America like damn, I love America.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because America is a great place for the most part, but don't get it twisted that America can't be better, and it should be better in a lot of different areas.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm with you, Chad.
• 1:07:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: It sucks that we can't root for our team on Friday night.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, because I know that, you know, every bar restaurant whenever it might be packed, you know, when the red, white and blue, I was at the quarter deck, you know, the other day, where am I red, white and blue, you know, and it was every black, white, yellow green person that you'd love America was there room for the same team, man.
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, I'm happy, and thank you for sharing your family history about.
• 1:07:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: you know bringing this this country together under one flag under one tough under under those three colors and because we don't all the time we we get now you know then we get to the fall we get divided again bro I love I would take it half the Olympics and World Cup every every year I'm alternating and we get all come together for this stuff time at the time at the time because only time we come together bro it's unfortunate
• 1:08:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the mic drop.
• 1:08:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think I need to try to tell anybody anything.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We ended on that.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mine's evergreen.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can use it for next week.
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Perfect.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Perfect.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I did this out of here didn't make sense.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that's your role, Bruce.
• 1:08:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, everybody.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I got a little long-winded, but everybody thinks we're diving in.
• 1:08:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at this piece of cake.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Who's that?
• 1:08:28
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