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- 0:08The Austin Police Chief and members
- 0:10of the Austin City Council met with
- 0:12community members this week to talk
- 0:13about local immigration and customs
- 0:15enforcement operations and the city
- 0:17and police's role in them.
- 0:19The meeting was billed as a
- 0:20conversation but turned into a
- 0:22shouting match that laid bare the
- 0:23community tensions around ICE
- 0:24enforcements here in the Austin area
- 0:26and around the country.
- 0:28We're going to talk more about that
- 0:29meeting and we'll hear from some of
- 0:31the voices who were there.
- 0:32That's coming up on today's show.
- 0:34The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:36of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:38Jerry Kehoe.
- 0:39Construction is happening on a new
- 0:41convention center in downtown
- 0:42Austin.
- 0:43Even so, a judge could rule any
- 0:45day on an effort to stop anything
- 0:47new from being built.
- 0:49And a new pedestrian bridge is
- 0:51opening this weekend on the eastern
- 0:52end of Lady Bird Lake.
- 0:54Come hear more about it.
- 0:56That's today on Austin Signal.
- 1:07This is Austin Signal.
- 1:09Thank you for tuning in to community
- 1:10powered public radio and thank you
- 1:12for spending part of your Friday
- 1:13here with us.
- 1:14I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
- 1:16Let's get into today's show.
- 1:19Austinites are demanding that police
- 1:20and city leaders do more to resist
- 1:22immigration and customs enforcement.
- 1:25That's a paraphrase of the headline
- 1:26topping kut.org today after
- 1:28Thursday's public meeting with city
- 1:30leaders and the community went just
- 1:32a little beyond a conversation.
- 1:34For more about what went down, we
- 1:35are joined by Mo's Boucher, who was
- 1:37there. He has been covering
- 1:38immigration for the Texas Newsroom,
- 1:40and he's here with us now in Austin
- 1:41Signal. Mo's, thanks for joining us.
- 1:43No problem, Jerry.
- 1:44So a lot of tension arose because
- 1:46a state law, SB4, which was passed
- 1:48in 2017, says that
- 1:50police departments can't stop
- 1:51officers from reporting someone to
- 1:53federal immigration agents.
- 1:55Austin leaders thought that they
- 1:56could get around that, but then
- 1:57there was an incident with a woman
- 1:58from Honduras.
- 1:59Can you remind us about what
- 2:00happened there?
- 2:01Yes what happened last month and
- 2:02uh... It was that uh...
- 2:04A woman a woman was uh...
- 2:05Had called a a p d on a
- 2:07disturbance call uh...
- 2:09And officer showed up they ran her
- 2:10background they found that she had
- 2:12what they call the minister of
- 2:13warrants uh...
- 2:14They've been put out by ice uh...
- 2:16Saying that she was potentially in
- 2:17the country uh...
- 2:18You know unauthorized uh...
- 2:20End up She ended up being deported
- 2:22with her daughter.
- 2:23That as you said, kind of,
- 2:26that showed in a
- 2:28very stark way that people
- 2:30in Austin can be deported after
- 2:32interactions with local law
- 2:34enforcement, something that the city
- 2:35has always said they did not
- 2:37want to happen.
- 2:38And so that has really kind of
- 2:40started up this big, like you said
- 2:42more than a conversation, a huge
- 2:43debate over what the city does next.
- 2:44Yeah, and your article is at
- 2:45kut.org.
- 2:47We're gonna have a link in the show
- 2:48notes for today's episode of
- 2:50Austin Signal. In there, you write
- 2:51that records show that Austin
- 2:52officers called ICE dozens of times
- 2:54last year after encountering
- 2:56people flagged with ICE warrants.
- 2:58And again, these are administrative
- 2:59warrants, not criminal warrants and
- 3:01I think that's part of the issue.
- 3:02This is obviously a big issue,
- 3:05but that's a part of issue with the
- 3:06backlash from the community,
- 3:08correct?
- 3:08Yes, so what happened is after Trump
- 3:10comes in in his second term,
- 3:12ICE floods police
- 3:14databases with these administrative
- 3:16warrants. And again, these are not
- 3:17criminal warrants, these not
- 3:18judicial warrants these are
- 3:20basically just an ICE agent saying
- 3:21we think maybe this person might be
- 3:23able to be deported.
- 3:24And so when an officer
- 3:26finds that in a background check,
- 3:27they may then contact ICE,
- 3:29give ICE the person's updated
- 3:31information or in the case like we
- 3:32just talked about, even perhaps stay
- 3:34with the person and hand them over
- 3:36to ICE when ICE appears.
- 3:37This is what's been happening for
- 3:38the last year since these warrants
- 3:40have come on the scene.
- 3:41And this is what the city is now
- 3:42trying to create new policy around.
- 3:44How do we react to this new
- 3:46development in integration
- 3:47enforcement?
- 3:48And part of that reaction is
- 3:50trying to connect with community
- 3:51members and that's why they had that
- 3:53meeting last night. It was at Go
- 3:54Valley Elementary School.
- 3:55How did it go?
- 3:56It was tense.
- 3:58It was really tense.
- 3:59What's happened since this whole
- 4:01thing has kind of gained the
- 4:02spotlight is that you have a growing
- 4:04divide in Austin between,
- 4:06you know, progressive Austin,
- 4:08between some people who want an
- 4:10aggressive resistance to
- 4:12the Trump deportation policy
- 4:14and to state leaders who
- 4:16back it, and then you have
- 4:19more moderate voices, I guess you
- 4:20could say, in Austin city government
- 4:22saying, we are restrained
- 4:24and constrained by some state laws.
- 4:26Uh... And so there are laws in
- 4:28texas that say we cannot
- 4:29tell police that they cannot contact
- 4:31ice for example and so
- 4:33what we do within the confines of
- 4:35those laws that still allowed
- 4:36uh... But that is not uh...
- 4:38I guess you could say you know a
- 4:40direct confrontation
- 4:41Okay, you used the word tense, let's
- 4:42hear a little bit from that.
- 4:44There is a rule of law that I have
- 4:45to follow as the Chief of Police
- 4:47here in the state of Texas.
- 4:48But what we can do is
- 4:51create policies that assist
- 4:53with that.
- 4:56That was the voice of Austin Police
- 4:57Chief Lisa Davis kind of
- 4:59getting booed out there from some of
- 5:01the members there What were the
- 5:03concerns of the people who showed up
- 5:04there to speak with city officials?
- 5:05Yeah, what we just heard was the
- 5:07first of many increasingly
- 5:09loud, I would say,
- 5:11eruptions of discontent
- 5:13from the crowd.
- 5:16And like I said,
- 5:18basically, many of them were just
- 5:19demanding that city leaders flat
- 5:21out resist and
- 5:23ignore state law.
- 5:24The message from some of
- 5:26these folks was we are going to
- 5:28not, we're not going to follow the
- 5:30law. We're going to resist it.
- 5:31And if that means that you lose your
- 5:33job, which is one of the outcomes
- 5:35potentially from this SB4
- 5:37law that we talk about, then so be
- 5:38it.
- 5:39And if the city is fine, then be it,
- 5:41we will go to court over this
- 5:42essentially and perhaps maybe find
- 5:45some satisfaction
- 5:47through the court system saying that
- 5:48parts of this law might be
- 5:50unconstitutional.
- 5:51There's a lot of speculation about
- 5:52that.
- 5:52And I know there was a woman there,
- 5:54Carmen, I believe was her name, what
- 5:55did she have to say?
- 5:56So she was
- 5:58talking about actually like
- 6:00trust in the police.
- 6:01I think that maybe we have a
- 6:03soundbite from her we could listen
- 6:04to. Let's throw to them.
- 6:07First, I don't trust the police.
- 6:09Second,
- 6:12Second,
- 6:15You are going to leave us in the
- 6:17hands of the feelings of
- 6:19a police officer.
- 6:22And not under the law.
- 6:25Because there is no law that
- 6:27protects us.
- 6:31What she says there is that she
- 6:33doesn't have trust in the police,
- 6:34which is of course what we hear from
- 6:35city council members all the time.
- 6:36We want people to feel
- 6:38safe calling the police.
- 6:40She says, I don't, and she's
- 6:41speaking as an immigrant and an
- 6:42activist for the immigrant community
- 6:44there. And then she said,
- 6:46you're leaving our fate essentially
- 6:48to the whims of a police
- 6:49officer
- 6:52because there's no law essentially
- 6:53to protect us.
- 6:55And that's the kind of reality that
- 6:56a lot of these people that were
- 6:58protesting were pointing to.
- 6:59The city might be able to kind of
- 7:01tinker around the edges of what's
- 7:02legally permissible in Texas,
- 7:04but the reality, they point out,
- 7:06is that if you do follow
- 7:08SB4, an officer is
- 7:11allowed to contact ICE.
- 7:12Okay, tell us a little bit about
- 7:14what city leaders had to say.
- 7:16I know that you spoke with Chito
- 7:17Vela, a council member.
- 7:18Absolutely.
- 7:19The plan from the city, like I said,
- 7:21is to try to mitigate this.
- 7:23Their idea is to create a
- 7:25system where an officer calls their
- 7:27commanding officer if they're
- 7:29going to call ICE.
- 7:31And so then the commanding officers
- 7:32may redirect that
- 7:35officer on the beat to
- 7:37say, well, listen, you can call ICE,
- 7:38we can't tell you not to, but
- 7:42maybe you should also go somewhere
- 7:43else. Maybe you essentially
- 7:44shouldn't wait to hand this person
- 7:45over to ICE.
- 7:46Uh... They think that will probably
- 7:47lower these interactions uh...
- 7:50But you know i like you said i
- 7:51caught up with uh... With councilmember
- 7:52bella after this event
- 7:54and he knows that there's a lot of
- 7:56disappointment with that kind of
- 7:57work around policy
- 8:00with the current political
- 8:01environment in Texas, and with
- 8:02President Trump in the White House,
- 8:04I cannot say that
- 8:06everything is gonna be fine.
- 8:08APD has limitations.
- 8:11We're trying to work within those
- 8:13limitations to maximize people's
- 8:15safety, but
- 8:17there are very real limitations
- 8:19and very real risks.
- 8:22Okay, Mose, before you got into the
- 8:24station, we were talking a little
- 8:25bit about the night and
- 8:27how it played out.
- 8:28It started around six o'clock.
- 8:29Because it was so raucous there,
- 8:32how did the event end up ending?
- 8:33So what we saw at the end after all
- 8:35of that shouting and all that
- 8:36tension was actually the police
- 8:38chief and many council members
- 8:40stayed beyond the deadline
- 8:42there, along with a lot of the same
- 8:44people that had been shouting and
- 8:47making their voices heard.
- 8:48And there were a lot of one-on-one
- 8:50conversations between some
- 8:52of those folks in the audience, the
- 8:53police Chief, I know council member
- 8:55Vela was there and others.
- 8:57And so it did kind of eventually...
- 9:00Dissipate into a more kind of
- 9:02personal conversation,
- 9:04but certainly tensions and emotions
- 9:06were high and will probably
- 9:08remain so as, not just as
- 9:10this happens in Austin, but as we
- 9:11see these images across the country
- 9:12of these ICE actions all
- 9:14over the place.
- 9:15We've been speaking with KUT's Mo's
- 9:17Bouchelle. He has been covering
- 9:18immigration for the Texas newsroom.
- 9:20We'll have a link to his story at
- 9:22kut.org slash signal.
- 9:24And in today's podcast show notes,
- 9:26Mo's thanks for your reporting.
- 9:27Thank you, Jerry.
- 9:29Construction is already going on a
- 9:31new convention center in downtown
- 9:32Austin, but a judge could rule any
- 9:34day on an effort to stop anything
- 9:36new from being built.
- 9:38KUT's Luz Moreno Lozano reports
- 9:40on the case, which could determine
- 9:42whether Austin has a convention
- 9:43center at all.
- 9:46The decision before Travis County
- 9:47District Judge Jessica Mangrum is if
- 9:49a citizen-initiated petition that
- 9:51was denied by the City of Austin in
- 9:53the fall can move forward.
- 9:55The Austin City Clerk said the
- 9:56petition, which seeks to stop the
- 9:58project, did not have enough valid
- 10:00signatures.
- 10:02Last week, the Austin United
- 10:03Political Action Committee argued
- 10:04their case before Mangrum as they
- 10:06fought to get their petition
- 10:07validated.
- 10:08The group hopes that if they get
- 10:09their proposition on the ballot, the
- 10:11people would vote against a new
- 10:13convention center.
- 10:14Bobby Lewinsky, an attorney
- 10:16representing the PAC, says instead
- 10:17of that, they'd like to see more
- 10:18support from museums and other
- 10:20cultural draws, including using the
- 10:22money for green spaces, public
- 10:23pools, and art.
- 10:24There's also some really great land
- 10:27downtown that's already been,
- 10:28you know, basically the
- 10:31site's been prepared for potential
- 10:33uses.
- 10:34And so you could use that space for
- 10:36other things than just the
- 10:37convention center.
- 10:38So why is a city building a new
- 10:39convention center?
- 10:40Let's look at both sides of the
- 10:42argument.
- 10:43Convention centers can cause a mix
- 10:44of emotions for residents.
- 10:46Often the facility is being used by
- 10:47out of towners and the funding
- 10:48mechanisms can be complicated.
- 10:50So why have a massive concrete
- 10:52box in the middle of downtown if
- 10:54it doesn't benefit the people who
- 10:56live here?
- 10:57Well, in a way it does.
- 10:59Alan Shearer is an urban planning
- 11:01professor at UT.
- 11:02He said conventions bring people to
- 11:04the city, and those people stay at
- 11:06hotels and spend money at
- 11:07restaurants, local businesses, and
- 11:09other places of entertainment.
- 11:10We think about how much of
- 11:12the Austin economy is tied to
- 11:14entertainment, to the music
- 11:16scene, to the restaurants.
- 11:18But what conventioneers bring in is
- 11:20traffic,
- 11:22customers during the middle of the
- 11:24week.
- 11:25And so what it does is it provides a
- 11:27more stable basis for those
- 11:29kinds of businesses to operate
- 11:31week long, month long, year
- 11:33round.
- 11:34For example, the South by Southwest
- 11:35Festival brings in people from all
- 11:37over the world.
- 11:38In 2025, more than 200,000
- 11:41people came to Austin, generating
- 11:42millions of dollars for the city.
- 11:45Some of that money funds city
- 11:46services like park improvements and
- 11:47public safety needs.
- 11:49Beyond South by South West, Katie
- 11:51Zemeznik, Deputy Director at the
- 11:52Austin Convention Center, says the
- 11:54facility welcomes all kinds of
- 11:56conferences from medical, tech, and
- 11:57corporate companies.
- 11:58It even transforms for junior and
- 12:00collegiate volleyball tournaments.
- 12:03With the expansion, Zmeznik said the
- 12:05convention center could host larger
- 12:06events like the Dell Technologies
- 12:07World Conference, which moved to Las
- 12:09Vegas after it outgrew Austin.
- 12:12She said the facility could also
- 12:13host multiple events at the same
- 12:15time, reducing dark days or days
- 12:17that can't be sold because of events
- 12:18moving in and out.
- 12:19We were turning away nearly 50%
- 12:21of the business leads that we were
- 12:23getting either because we were too
- 12:25small or we didn't have the space.
- 12:27But others argue large-scale
- 12:28conventions and conferences are a
- 12:30thing of the past.
- 12:31Many companies have started to cut
- 12:32back on travel and some conferences
- 12:34have transitioned virtually making
- 12:36convention centers moot.
- 12:38The attorney for the group trying to
- 12:39stop the convention center, Bobby
- 12:41Lewinsky, says Austin can still host
- 12:43major events at hotel conference
- 12:44rooms, UT, and the new hotel
- 12:46and convention center being added at
- 12:48the Circuit of the Americas.
- 12:50But without a convention center in
- 12:51downtown Austin, shares says that
- 12:53could mean tourism and businesses
- 12:55downtown suffer.
- 12:56Again, it's the question
- 12:58of what could you put there
- 13:02that would still provide the kind
- 13:04of midweek.
- 13:06Of people coming in to support
- 13:08our restaurants and
- 13:10clubs.
- 13:13Some downtown Austin businesses are
- 13:15already feeling the pinch as
- 13:16construction on the convention
- 13:17center and work on I-35 continues.
- 13:20I'm here at the corner of Trinity
- 13:21and 4th Street and folks, there is
- 13:23a giant empty hole where the
- 13:25Austin Convention Center used to
- 13:26sit.
- 13:27No new building means no convention
- 13:29center at all.
- 13:30And foot traffic and restaurant
- 13:32business has already started to
- 13:33drop.
- 13:34In December, the Downtown Austin
- 13:35Alliance offered subsidized Uber
- 13:37rides just to get people downtown.
- 13:40So let's get back to the courtroom.
- 13:41If the judge rules the petition
- 13:43should move forward and voters deny
- 13:45an expansion, the project would
- 13:46pause.
- 13:47I'm Luz Moreno Lozano in Austin.
- 13:52A little sports news today on
- 13:54this Friday. We're five months out
- 13:55from the 2026 World Cup and
- 13:57it was announced this week that the
- 13:59Saudi Arabian soccer team will use
- 14:00Austin as their home base for
- 14:02the duration of the tournament.
- 14:04The Saudi team faced the U.S.
- 14:06At Q2 Stadium last June and
- 14:09they'll have their hands full in
- 14:10Group H competition going against
- 14:12Spain, Uruguay and Cape Verde.
- 14:14Austin Signal will be back after
- 14:16a break. Thanks for making us part
- 14:18of your Friday.
- 14:30This is Austin Signal, welcome back.
- 14:32There are some classic musicals
- 14:34that seem to be timeless.
- 14:36At the Austin Opera House, one actor
- 14:38spoke with Texas Standard about his
- 14:40role and a performance happening
- 14:42this weekend.
- 14:44My name is Stephen Skybell,
- 14:46I'm playing Tevye in Fiddler on the
- 14:47Roof at Austin Opera.
- 14:53Fiddler on the Roof, it has such
- 14:55universal appeal.
- 14:57And the thing that I think appeals
- 14:59to an audience about it is that it's
- 15:01essentially about a family, a
- 15:02husband and a wife, and their five
- 15:04daughters.
- 15:05And the three elder daughters
- 15:07are all of marriageable
- 15:09age. And there's complications
- 15:12and confusion
- 15:14about how to get these daughters
- 15:16married.
- 15:17So I think a lot of people just
- 15:19can relate to the idea of
- 15:21a family.
- 15:21But what happens in Fiddler,
- 15:23which becomes meaningful, even
- 15:25more meaningful today than maybe it
- 15:27was in 1966,
- 15:29is that the lens opens up to
- 15:31show this village, this
- 15:33village of Jewish people
- 15:35that are ultimately,
- 15:38spoiler alert, forced out of their
- 15:39town.
- 15:40And so, it's a musical about
- 15:42family, it's musical about
- 15:44community, and it's the
- 15:46musical about love and faith
- 15:48and about the...
- 15:50Intolerance that sometimes can
- 15:52happen in the world and force
- 15:54people to have
- 15:56to pick up and move somewhere
- 15:58else.
- 15:59Oh, all that we can leave this
- 16:01pot. No, we can't.
- 16:03All right, we'll take it.
- 16:07I was born in Amarillo.
- 16:09I grew up in Lubbock,
- 16:11a little Jewish actor boy
- 16:13growing up in Lubeck, Texas.
- 16:14There were a hundred Jewish families
- 16:16there.
- 16:16There was a children's theater in
- 16:18Lubbeck, Texas and my brother
- 16:20was part of it.
- 16:21And I said to my mother, I want to
- 16:23do that. And I was 10 years old
- 16:25and I started doing plays when I
- 16:27was ten and I have
- 16:29really never looked back.
- 16:34The first time I played Tevye I was
- 16:3517 and I was at
- 16:37the national music camp in
- 16:38Interlochen, Michigan which was a
- 16:40summer arts camp that I went to for
- 16:42five summers.
- 16:43I played him when I was 21,
- 16:45undergrad, Yale University.
- 16:48Then I had
- 16:50a big hiatus,
- 16:51was looking for Tevya to play him
- 16:53and I never played him.
- 16:55Finally I got the opportunity to
- 16:57play Tevyes as an age-appropriate
- 16:59adult. In the
- 17:01Yiddish version of Fiddler on the
- 17:03Roof that the National Yiddhish
- 17:05Theater of Falksbyna did in New York
- 17:07City directed by Joel Gray.
- 17:12The thing I've learned about Tevye
- 17:14as I've grown older is that
- 17:16he actually is quite
- 17:18optimistic and hopeful in a
- 17:20world that around him is
- 17:22less than that.
- 17:24So as I have gotten older
- 17:26I respond more and more
- 17:28positively to the
- 17:30optimism that Tevya holds
- 17:32even in the face of all this
- 17:34tragic developments that are
- 17:36happening around him.
- 17:38We have to catch a train and
- 17:40a bus, you understand?
- 17:41Prince, put your bundles on the
- 17:43wagon.
- 17:45Fiddler on the Roof has music that
- 17:47everyone is going to recognize
- 17:49and sing.
- 17:51I do think, ultimately,
- 17:53it is a cautionary tale
- 17:55about what can happen when
- 17:58the powers that be
- 18:00exert their force and
- 18:02force citizens and people
- 18:04to have to leave their homes.
- 18:06And so it's ultimately a message
- 18:07about peace and
- 18:09tolerance in a time then
- 18:12that was less than that.
- 18:13And I hope that it'll just get
- 18:15people's.
- 18:16Hearts feeling hopeful
- 18:18for mending
- 18:20fences between people.
- 18:22Goodbye.
- 18:27Our card, Mother.
- 18:29Come to us soon.
- 18:31I will, man.
- 18:33That was Stephen Skybell speaking
- 18:35with Texas Standard.
- 18:36He's performing in Fiddler on
- 18:38the roof this weekend at Austin
- 18:40Opera House.
- 18:43The Wishbone pedestrian bridge opens
- 18:45tomorrow on the eastern end of
- 18:47Lady Bird Lake, completing the
- 18:48biggest gap in the Ann and Roy
- 18:50Butler hike and bike trail.
- 18:51For more about that, we're speaking
- 18:53with KUT's transportation reporter,
- 18:55Nathan Bernier.
- 18:56Nathan, thanks for spending part of
- 18:57your Friday with us.
- 18:58It's good to be with you, Jerry.
- 18:59I'm glad you're here, this project
- 19:00is a near and dear to my heart,
- 19:03because every single weekday on
- 19:05my way to KUT News, I drive over
- 19:07the Longhorn Dam, and that's
- 19:09basically how people have had to
- 19:11complete the gap prior to this
- 19:13wishbone bridge, correct?
- 19:14Yeah, well, I mean,
- 19:16since Longhorn Shores was developed
- 19:18in the mid-1970s,
- 19:21there hasn't really been,
- 19:23you know, the trail has detoured.
- 19:25I mean it's essentially, and for
- 19:27years, I mean, you've probably been
- 19:28around long enough to remember when
- 19:29it was a four-foot wide sidewalk
- 19:31over the Longhorn Dam.
- 19:33Now that got expanded, so it's not
- 19:34so narrow, but that was
- 19:36pretty bad. Now,
- 19:39this is the last remaining
- 19:41big gap on the trail.
- 19:44And tomorrow it's gonna be
- 19:46complete. I mean, it's going to be.
- 19:47Yeah, I'm very excited.
- 19:49You know, this is kind of an
- 19:50embarrassing story. But the first
- 19:51time I rode my bike on the
- 19:53trail there and I got to
- 19:55the to the lake, I didn't know where
- 19:57to go. And I just I just turned
- 19:59around and went back to my house,
- 20:00you know, because I didn't know
- 20:01where where it was going to go and
- 20:03now be able to use the wishbone
- 20:04bridge.
- 20:05Why is it called that?
- 20:06And is it because of what it looks
- 20:08like? Yeah. OK.
- 20:08Okay, it's like a y-shaped bridge,
- 20:11you know, I've heard different
- 20:13Metaphors one person on Instagram
- 20:14said it was thong shaped But
- 20:16basically it has three prongs
- 20:18it goes in three different
- 20:19directions. It connects Longhorn
- 20:21Shores, Canterbury Shores
- 20:23and the Peninsula
- 20:25there. It's okay the unnamed
- 20:26peninsula But the other day someone
- 20:27gave it a name told me it had a
- 20:29name. Anyway, you there's that was
- 20:30it
- 20:30Was it thong peninsula?
- 20:32No, it was not.
- 20:32No, it was not. But that might,
- 20:33maybe that's, we should approach the
- 20:34city with this idea.
- 20:36And it's very, you know, wishbone
- 20:38bridges are not very common.
- 20:40Most bridges connect one thing to
- 20:42another. You don't often see three
- 20:43pronged bridges.
- 20:46But this solves a very unique
- 20:48problem. And one interesting thing
- 20:50about it is that it wasn't even a
- 20:51city idea. It didn't come from an
- 20:52engineer, it didn't from
- 20:54transportation, public works.
- 20:55They held early in this process,
- 20:57They held public meetings and it
- 20:58was. About a dozen members of the
- 21:00public rode in, hey, how about a
- 21:01wishbone bridge?
- 21:02And they're like, hmm, and they
- 21:03liked the idea enough, they took it
- 21:05seriously, they studied it,
- 21:07and boom, 2026, now it's
- 21:09about to open.
- 21:10Well, one thing I really appreciate
- 21:12about you, Nathan, is you're a crack
- 21:14transportation reporter, right?
- 21:15You're really good at what you do,
- 21:16but you're also sort of becoming a
- 21:18transportation influencer, because
- 21:19over on the KUT Instagram
- 21:21feed, you have this video where
- 21:23you're out on the Wishbone Bridge
- 21:24and you're highlighting some of
- 21:25what's happening.
- 21:26The cool thing about the bridge,
- 21:28there's so much to appreciate there,
- 21:29but there's also a tunnel
- 21:31that's got some cool art featured in
- 21:33there. Can you tell us where that
- 21:35is? Yes.
- 21:35Absolutely, so you know you cross
- 21:37over the bridge the tunnel actually
- 21:38goes underneath Pleasant Valley Road
- 21:40now there used to be a tunnel there
- 21:41It was like a six foot wide
- 21:43box culvert.
- 21:44It was I mean people have
- 21:46described it as creepy
- 21:47It was not enticing, you know,
- 21:49you didn't want to put your bike
- 21:50underneath there.
- 21:51I was just, I wasn't sure I was
- 21:51going to make it out the other side.
- 21:53Right, and also it would
- 21:54flood, like the drainage in there
- 21:56was horrible, the lighting was bad,
- 21:58it was weird, and not
- 21:59always a safe feeling for
- 22:01people.
- 22:02So that's gone, that's completely
- 22:04filled up, and then just a little
- 22:05bit north of there is where they've
- 22:06put this new one, it's 30 feet wide,
- 22:08it's got recessed lighting, and a
- 22:10mural covering the entire thing.
- 22:12Part of it is painted, part of it as
- 22:13tile work, and along the very
- 22:15entrance and exit are going to be
- 22:17about more than 200
- 22:19handprints that people
- 22:21came out and just
- 22:23anyone who could have done it, they
- 22:25held these workshops, people came
- 22:26out and they made their, pressed
- 22:28their hands on these tiles.
- 22:29So there's gonna be that aspect of
- 22:31it. And I think there's one dog
- 22:32print on there as well.
- 22:34So, but I think, you know,
- 22:36the artwork is beautiful.
- 22:37Reginald Adams from Houston was the
- 22:38artist commissioned to do the
- 22:40artwork, but
- 22:42the accessibility is gonna be the
- 22:43main issue there.
- 22:44Now, if you're at Quig Fields or
- 22:46you're in Roy G.
- 22:47Guerrero Park, it's gonna to be
- 22:48super easy just to walk over.
- 22:49Also, there's a big parking lot
- 22:50there. So say you want to hit the
- 22:51trail. You could park by Creek
- 22:53fields, go under that, that,
- 22:55through that tunnel and boom, you're
- 22:56on the Butler trail.
- 22:57Mm-hmm. Yeah, I see people do it all
- 22:58the time when they're paddle
- 22:59boarding things like that.
- 23:00You mentioned Reginald the artist
- 23:02Can you let's hear a little bit of
- 23:04tape from him?
- 23:05Which includes a 160
- 23:07foot long mosaic that'll go on
- 23:09both sides of this tunnel.
- 23:11And really excited to bring this
- 23:12public art project to completion.
- 23:15It's been two years in the making
- 23:16and in the next four days we're
- 23:17gonna bring it together.
- 23:19There will be over 200 hand
- 23:20prints that will adorn the outer
- 23:22lip of the tunnel.
- 23:24And these are all hand prints from
- 23:26local Austinites, folks who came to
- 23:27our community engagement events and
- 23:29that'll kind of be the welcome into
- 23:31the tunnel on both the outer
- 23:33sides so as people come in
- 23:35and out of the tunnel they'll be
- 23:36able to see their contribution to
- 23:37this public art installation.
- 23:39So the Wishbone Bridge is opening
- 23:41tomorrow, Nathan, with a little
- 23:42ceremony. What's gonna be happening?
- 23:44Grand opening 10 a.m.
- 23:45Mayor will be there, members of
- 23:47Congress, and a whole bunch of
- 23:48people are invited.
- 23:49I know that lots of folks are
- 23:50excited about this. I hear there's
- 23:51live music and food trucks too.
- 23:52Okay, it should be a good time out
- 23:54there. That is KUT's transportation
- 23:57reporter, Nathan Bernier.
- 23:58We're gonna have a link to his story
- 23:59at kut.org slash signal
- 24:01and and our podcast show notes
- 24:03for today.
- 24:04Nathan, thank you for your time.
- 24:06Thanks, Jerry.
- 24:06And thank you out there for tuning
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- 24:26Have a great weekend.