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- 0:39Yeah, we'll do something a little bit different in this
- 0:43session. So the theme that I'd like to
- 0:46talk about today is mantra or specifically Buddhist mantra,
- 0:52because mantra is used in all different kinds of traditions.
- 0:55But I want to talk specifically about Buddhist mantra.
- 0:58And the challenge for me is to not say so much that we don't
- 1:03have some time to actually chant some mantras.
- 1:06So my intention is that we'll have time to experience chanting
- 1:10based on what I've said and see what happens, what it does.
- 1:15Yeah. So I don't know how many of you
- 1:18are in the WhatsApp group for the Centre, the English speaking
- 1:23WhatsApp group, but I put a blurb in that earlier in the
- 1:27week and I'm just going to read out what I said or part of what
- 1:31I said because I began by saying what Buddhist mantra is not.
- 1:36Yeah, So what Buddhist mantra is not.
- 1:39So first of all, it's not entertainment.
- 1:43So it might, it might feel good, but we're not doing it just to
- 1:48sort of have a good time. It's not entertainment, it's not
- 1:52singing. Lali Taranda told us a brilliant
- 1:56story this morning that he once heard a radio programme on the
- 1:59BBC and they were talking about Tibetan monks chanting.
- 2:03And one of them said, oh, the chanting of Tibetan monks is so
- 2:06fantastic. And the other one said, I
- 2:08disagree, they just Can't Sing. Because if you've heard Tibetan
- 2:13monks chanting, it's very deep and it is amazing, isn't it?
- 2:17It has a really powerful effect. And the other one said, no, they
- 2:21just Can't Sing. So they're slightly discordant,
- 2:23but that produces the effect. I'm not saying that to offend
- 2:28Tibetan monks who Can't Sing. I'm saying it to make the point
- 2:33that singing is something different.
- 2:35So when we sing, there's a certain pressure on us, isn't
- 2:39it? To sing well and to sing in tune
- 2:42with each other and to be in harmony with mantra?
- 2:45We don't have that kind of pressure.
- 2:47So it's not about singing. It's not even really about being
- 2:51in tune, although it's nice if things sound harmonious.
- 2:55But if there's a bit of discord, that's OK.
- 2:58In fact, it can make it even more beautiful, as Lalita Ratner
- 3:01discovered last night at the Friday class with some
- 3:05discordant chanting. So no pressure.
- 3:09We're not singing. You don't have to do it.
- 3:10Well, it's not a performance then.
- 3:14I said mantra is not background music for making offerings.
- 3:20So if you've been around for a while, you'll know that often
- 3:22when we chant mantras, people come up to the shrine and they
- 3:25like candles and they like incense and they make offerings.
- 3:29But often what happens is once the last person has done that
- 3:32and sat back down, the mantra just stops, as if we were only
- 3:37doing it for people to go get up and make mantra, make offerings,
- 3:41and not have the awkwardness of doing it in silence.
- 3:44But it's not that either. So there's a reason that we
- 3:48could chant the mantra indefinitely in the course of a
- 3:51ritual, even after everybody has stopped making offerings.
- 3:55We could just carry on. The mantra is its own thing.
- 4:00Then I said, but this mantra is not prayer.
- 4:04It's not prayer. What I meant by that is that
- 4:07it's not that we are asking for some help from something outside
- 4:13of ourselves that is ultimately real and can do the work for us.
- 4:17So we're not giving up our own capacity and ability.
- 4:23It's difficult because there's something of that nature, and
- 4:26I'll say more about that later, but it's not prayer in that
- 4:31sense. It's not a means of manipulation
- 4:34to get things we want. It's not magic.
- 4:38There are two other things I said.
- 4:40So it's not that we are chanting mantra to get something for
- 4:44ourselves or to stop somebody else getting something.
- 4:49And mantra actually comes from an old magical tradition where
- 4:52you would use it for that reason.
- 4:55So you would chant certain things like spells to get
- 4:59something you want and to stop somebody else getting something
- 5:03or to lose something. But mantra we're not using in
- 5:07that kind of way. It's kind of the opposite of
- 5:09Buddhism. If we're just doing something to
- 5:12get something or doing something to bring I'll on somebody else,
- 5:18well, that's the opposite of Buddhism.
- 5:20So it's not magic in that sense. Then if we strip away the magic,
- 5:26we're in danger of reducing it to just something that's useful,
- 5:29like a tool or yeah, something utilitarian, some self
- 5:35enhancement technique. And mantra's not that either.
- 5:39So I say mantra's not a mere concentration exercise.
- 5:43There's more to it than that. And then I said it's not a way
- 5:47to feel all spiritual and show others how spiritual we are.
- 5:51I think I might have been a bit grumpy when I was writing this,
- 5:54but you know the point sometimes, and I've done this,
- 5:59so this is a confession. Sometimes we use spiritual
- 6:03practice to kind of build an alternative identity that's
- 6:07better than a non spiritual one that creeps in.
- 6:11Chogyam Trumper, a famous book cutting through spiritual
- 6:15materialism. It was all about that, how we
- 6:18turn spirituality into something that enhances our sense of ego
- 6:24basically. So mantra is not about that.
- 6:27We could say mantra is cutting through that.
- 6:32So what is it all about then? That was the question I posed in
- 6:36the blurb for the session today. And the the textbook answer, or
- 6:44the answer in the book, is that mantras are a series of
- 6:49syllables that come from Sanskrit, from the Sanskrit
- 6:53alphabet. And in in chanting them doesn't
- 6:59make sense in the way that a sentence of string of words
- 7:03might make sense. But it has an effect.
- 7:06It has a power. So most Buddhist mantras you'll
- 7:11have discovered, if you've heard them, they usually begin with
- 7:14the syllable on. Yeah.
- 7:16So om is like the cosmic sound. Yeah.
- 7:21If, if the cosmos made a sound, suddenly I have images now of
- 7:27the Artemis space crew and the photographs that I've seen in
- 7:31the week, maybe when they were up there, they could hear this
- 7:34really resonant om. I don't know.
- 7:37But om is like the, the cosmic sound.
- 7:39Reality itself. Yeah.
- 7:42How does one describe it other than by those means?
- 7:45So when we say on, it's like everything is vast and open and
- 7:50nothing defined, nothing pinned down, and then you get the name
- 7:55of a Buddha or a Bodhisattva. So it could be the Buddha
- 7:59Shakyamuni who was the historical Buddha.
- 8:03It could be have a look at Eshvara who we have depicted on
- 8:07the shrine here. It could be Vajrapani, who I've
- 8:11just seen on Brita's screensaver.
- 8:16So on Vajrapani, let's say in this case, and then the last
- 8:20syllable is what's known as a bija or a seed syllable, the
- 8:25essence of whatever. Vajrapani is whatever.
- 8:30Have a look at Teshwara is whatever Shakyamuni is.
- 8:33The seed syllable at the end is the essence.
- 8:37So you have on the big vast indefinable, the Buddha or the
- 8:42Bodhisattva. And then if you like both of
- 8:45those together and realised so on Vajrapani Hung in that case,
- 8:52that's the book, that's the textbook answer.
- 8:55Now that's that's the kind of basic thing you need to know.
- 9:00But to explore a little bit further and look into how we
- 9:06might practically benefit from mantra, I'm going to return to
- 9:12the story of Avalo Kateshwara that I, if you've been coming
- 9:16over the last few weeks, I've mentioned this every time I've
- 9:19given a talk. You can see where my inspiration
- 9:23is at the moment. So it's in this story about the
- 9:27Bodhisattva, Avalo Kateshwara. And a Bodhisattva is a being, a
- 9:33sattva who is interested, if you like, only in Bodie or
- 9:38Enlightenment Awakening. So the story goes.
- 9:46And if you've heard this already, it's fine.
- 9:50I've heard it 1000 times and only now is it suddenly really
- 9:54in my mind all the time. So these stories have multiple
- 9:57layers. So just just hear it again.
- 10:00Listen again. So the story goes that have a
- 10:03look at Teshwara. He has this great wish to
- 10:08alleviate the suffering of all beings in the entire cosmos.
- 10:14It's a big wish, isn't it? But that's his wish.
- 10:17He wants to alleviate suffering wherever it might be, wherever
- 10:21it's found. So he makes a vow before his
- 10:26teacher, who is a Buddha called Amitabha, or Infinite light, the
- 10:31Buddha Infinite Light. So Avalokateshwar says, I want
- 10:37to liberate all beings in the cosmos from suffering.
- 10:41I will work tirelessly to achieve that and to make that
- 10:46happen. And he says this is the really
- 10:50tough part. He says if at any point I have
- 10:55even the slightest selfish thought and wish only for my own
- 10:59happiness rather than the happiness of others, at that
- 11:03point may my head break into 10 pieces like the Adzaka plant,
- 11:12which I googled and found nothing.
- 11:15But anyway, maybe it's a plant that has a tendency to explode,
- 11:20I don't know. So he wants his head to split
- 11:23into 10 pieces like the Adzaka plant, and his body to break
- 11:27into 1000 pieces like the scattered petals of a Lotus.
- 11:32So if he has the slightest selfish thought, that's what he
- 11:37wants to happen. So that's his vow.
- 11:40And then off he goes around the world, encountering the
- 11:45suffering of different living beings, responding and
- 11:50responding to them, helping them, teaching them, the
- 11:55Buddha's teaching through the mantra, Om Mani Padme hung.
- 12:03So he does that through mantra. He's responding to the suffering
- 12:06of the world through mantra. And in this case Om cosmic Mani
- 12:13Padme. So those words actually do mean
- 12:16something. So Mani is jewel, Padma Padme,
- 12:20in this case Lotus. So Om jewel Lotus essence hung.
- 12:27It's an on jewel Lotus hung. So that's what he does.
- 12:33He's teaching people through the mantra and then he stops and he
- 12:40goes deeply into meditation. And in the meditation, he has a
- 12:44vision of beings all around the world appearing like an ocean on
- 12:50fire. And he sees that despite all his
- 12:53work, there's still so much suffering in the world.
- 12:58And at that point he just begins to weep tears of sorrow.
- 13:03And the tears form a great pool. And on the pool a Lotus comes,
- 13:08and another bodhisattva appears called Tara, in female form,
- 13:13very beautiful. And she vows to help him in his
- 13:18efforts. And then off he goes again,
- 13:22responding to the suffering of living beings through the mantra
- 13:26on Mani Padme Hung. And then, after so long, he
- 13:30stops and he looks out again and he sees the same thing.
- 13:37It hasn't worked. Still, there's as much
- 13:40suffering, war, illness, sickness, famine, frustration,
- 13:46disappointment, sadness as there had been all along.
- 13:52And then it happens. Then he thinks to himself,
- 13:56what's the use? Like, what's the point in doing
- 14:01all this work, all this mantra, all this communication, all
- 14:05these responses, and it's not working.
- 14:08And then you know what happens? Because he's made his vow.
- 14:14His head shatters into 10 pieces, his body into 1000
- 14:19pieces, scattered, scattered like the petals of a Lotus, and
- 14:25he cries out in agony to his teacher, the Buddha Amitabha, to
- 14:30help him. And at that point?
- 14:33Amitabha appears, the Buddha Amitabha Infinite Light appears
- 14:39and have a look at Khateshwara is spiritually reborn, we could
- 14:43say into the form that we have on the shrine here this morning.
- 14:48So the thousand pieces are turned into 1000 arms.
- 14:55So I don't know if you can see it, but the Halo like thing
- 14:58around the body of the figure here, that's 1000 arms and each
- 15:03of the arms or each of the hands rather has a an eye in it.
- 15:08So there are 1000 eyes to really see the world and respond to the
- 15:13world more effectively. And often the hands have
- 15:17different things in them, different implements or tools
- 15:20that will help him cure or alleviate the sufferings of
- 15:25living beings. And then there's this whole
- 15:29stack of heads. So the 10 parts of his original
- 15:33head are fashioned into 10 different heads looking in all
- 15:38the different directions. And then right on the top,
- 15:42Amitabha places his own head. So you could say the head of
- 15:46infinite light is placed right at the top.
- 15:51And the symbolism here is that he's had this wish, this
- 15:54compassionate response to the suffering of the world.
- 15:59But the the reforming the wisdom eyes, the different faces they
- 16:05show that now it's infused with wisdom.
- 16:09So the compassionate action and response is conjoined with
- 16:13wisdom and real insight into how things are.
- 16:18And therefore have a look at Tetra is free to really continue
- 16:22his responding to the world's suffering in a in a different.
- 16:27Way. So let's just.
- 16:32Have a moment with this image or this story and the symbolism of
- 16:38the story and maybe what it's doing to you.
- 16:43And yeah, that's the third time you've heard it in a month.
- 16:45Maybe it's doing something different to the last time.
- 16:56So then the question is, what has that got to do with mantra?
- 17:00That's why we're here today to explore mantra more fully.
- 17:07So I'm just going to draw out a few points from the story that I
- 17:12think would help us appreciate what mantra is about and what
- 17:17kind of effect chanting mantras can have.
- 17:20Yeah. So it's.
- 17:25Interesting how the story begins.
- 17:27So have a look at Teshwara has a Wish.
- 17:31Yeah. He has a wish, and then in order
- 17:34to enact that wish in the world, he has a mantra.
- 17:40So I would say that we are all in that position.
- 17:45Yeah. So everybody here today, you've
- 17:49come here for some kind of reason.
- 17:52Whether that's because you want to respond to the suffering of
- 17:55the world, whether it's because you're suffering yourself and
- 17:58you want to explore how Buddhism can help that.
- 18:02Whether it's because you're interested in community and
- 18:05ethics, or you're interested in Buddhism and religion and
- 18:09knowing more about that or ritual, whatever it is, you are
- 18:13here because you have some kind of wish.
- 18:17There's a reason you're here and you're looking for something, I
- 18:22am assuming, but I think it's probably true, that there is a
- 18:29wish, individual wish in the room and you have mantra because
- 18:38the mantras are available on Mani Padme Hung.
- 18:41There you go, there's a mantra. So even if you've never heard a
- 18:45Buddhist mantra before, I've just told you one.
- 18:49So you have a wish and you have a mantra just like in the story.
- 18:53Have a look at Teshra has a wish and he has a mantra.
- 19:00So mantra is something that we can simply practice.
- 19:06Maybe you have got some experience of practising with
- 19:09mantra, maybe not, but it's something we can do.
- 19:15And if you have been experimenting with mantra either
- 19:21here or elsewhere, maybe you also have had a moment like we
- 19:27have in the other Look at Teshpura story where you think
- 19:31to yourself, what's the point? It's kind of weird, isn't it,
- 19:36that we chant these mantras that are thousands of years of
- 19:42thousands of years old coming from a culture that's different
- 19:47to the one that we find ourselves in, kind of Germany,
- 19:52Western culture. And this is coming from ancient
- 19:56India and the Sanskrit alphabet. So it's kind of, it can be
- 20:01strange. So maybe we ask ourselves that
- 20:05question, why am I doing this again?
- 20:09I certainly do. Yeah, or.
- 20:13I ask myself, is it really working?
- 20:19What's the point? Is it really working?
- 20:20Is it having an effect? I have to confess, sometimes I
- 20:24just get a bit bored as well, or I, I, I am guilty of this, the
- 20:31background music making. It's like, oh, come on, can we
- 20:34just carry on with the offerings or do the offerings faster so
- 20:40that we can stop the mantra and carry on and then get an earlier
- 20:44night or something like that. I have to confess that so that
- 20:49can happen. We can question, we can doubt
- 20:52whether the mantra works. Yeah.
- 20:56Or why are we doing it in the first place?
- 20:58Is it an adequate expression of our wish?
- 21:02Yeah. But what we learn from the Avalo
- 21:06Kateshwar story is that we can have a wish, we can have a
- 21:11mantra, we can have doubt. But then in order it to, in
- 21:17order for it to be really effective and not just
- 21:21degenerate into some form of singing, entertainment,
- 21:25background music, all those things, I said mantra is not
- 21:29something has to break. Yeah.
- 21:33So it might be that for mantra to become effective, something
- 21:37has to break. So what has to break?
- 21:43Yeah, I'm just going to list off like 5, maybe 6 ideas that I've
- 21:49had in the week about what needs to break in order for mantra and
- 21:54its real effectiveness to come through.
- 21:59And it might be that chanting mantra helps us to break certain
- 22:03obstacles down also. Yeah.
- 22:07So the first thing that mantra can help us to break, I would
- 22:12say, is the domination of rational thinking, the
- 22:19domination of the rational mind. Yeah.
- 22:24So a few nods in the room. So that's not news that often,
- 22:28particularly in our culture here in the Western world, there is a
- 22:33strong tendency towards privileging the thinking mind,
- 22:39the rational mind. Yeah, there's that really big
- 22:45book that everyone always recommends, and I've never got
- 22:47around to reading The Master and His Emissary by Ian Mcgilchrist.
- 22:52And his argument is that the it's called the master and his
- 22:56emissary of master and his servant.
- 22:59Because in in western culture, the left brain, the thinking
- 23:05rational part of the brain has elevated itself to the position
- 23:09of master when actually it should be the other way round.
- 23:13And the right brain, the more creative, non rational side of
- 23:19the brain is actually should be the master served by reason and
- 23:25thinking of rational thought. Like I say, I've never read the
- 23:29book, but I like the model. So mantra can help to break that
- 23:34because it doesn't make sense really.
- 23:39I gave that little introduction and explanation at the
- 23:42beginning, but actually we're chanting these syllables.
- 23:46It might have an effect, but we can't really say how it's
- 23:49working. There have been attempts to
- 23:52scientifically prove how mantra works and the vibrations, but I
- 23:56don't think the studies have ever got anywhere, so we can't
- 24:00explain it rationally. So you're chanting A mantra and
- 24:04you're thinking what the hell am I doing?
- 24:07But maybe that's a useful challenge.
- 24:10Or maybe we have to ask the question which part of me is
- 24:14doubting this? Yeah, and what?
- 24:16Else is there so mantra can begin to break down the
- 24:21dominance of the rational mind. Yeah.
- 24:26Second thing that mantra can break down, I would say is a
- 24:31kind of neck up Buddhism. Yeah, or an emphasis on, again,
- 24:37cognitive Buddhism or just mental Buddhism.
- 24:41So the great thing about mantra is as soon as you start to
- 24:45chant, the voice is involved. So it's not just mind, it's also
- 24:51speech. And in order to produce the
- 24:54sound of a mantra, that means our whole body is engaged.
- 25:00You can't chant mantra without your body.
- 25:03And that sounds really obvious. It is an embodied practice.
- 25:08So it breaks us out of thinking that Buddhism is just about mind
- 25:14and mental activity. It's also about speech, it's
- 25:18also about body, and that means it's the whole of us.
- 25:22So when we chant mantra, we do that with the whole of
- 25:25ourselves. Third thing, mantra can help
- 25:32break us out of what is known as propancha, your mental
- 25:37proliferation. So you all know this one.
- 25:41We hear a sound, we think it's an ambulance going past.
- 25:48Oh, maybe the person was in a car accident.
- 25:54I remember when I was in a car accident and it was my fault.
- 25:58And I feel really guilty about it.
- 26:00And I've always been stupid and forgetful and unmindful.
- 26:04And so we go from a simple sensory impression to creating a
- 26:09whole world of thought in which we get lost.
- 26:15Yeah. So these thought worlds that we
- 26:18get lost in mantra is a, an attack on that or a way of
- 26:23breaking us out of that. And I would say potentially a
- 26:27more effective way or a more accessible way for a lot of
- 26:31people than meditation. So when we sit and we meditate,
- 26:37maybe we close our eyes, we go inward.
- 26:41That can make it easier to get lost in the thought worlds.
- 26:45If you're chanting A mantra, it will still happen, like you
- 26:50still drift off and think about something else.
- 26:53But usually people don't stop chanting.
- 26:56So even if your mind has gone somewhere else, your body and
- 27:00your speech are still here and they're still engaging with the
- 27:03mantra. So we we go off, we get lost,
- 27:07but then we come back and the chanting is still going on.
- 27:12Yeah. So, so the mantra, the power of
- 27:15the mantra is it can really breakthrough that mental
- 27:18proliferation. And then maybe more clarity
- 27:22arises, or more calm arises if we were to chant for 10-15
- 27:26minutes. Yeah.
- 27:28Try it. So what else did I have?
- 27:33What else does mantra break? Oh, yeah.
- 27:38Another thing is those those three things are about our own
- 27:43experience. So mantra can help us to what
- 27:48did I say? Yeah, break the dominance of
- 27:50rational thinking. Drop out of the body and into
- 27:54speech and into drop out of the mind into speech and into body.
- 27:59And gosh, I'm slow this morning and break.
- 28:05Yeah, thank you. Breaking us out of
- 28:07proliferation, but they're all to do with our experience.
- 28:11I think the other thing mantra can do is break us into a more
- 28:17communal experience. So often we chant mantra
- 28:22together. Yeah, you can do it on your own,
- 28:24but often it's done as a communal practice.
- 28:29And that's always interesting because when you're chanting A
- 28:31mantra with other people, you can either drown, get drowned
- 28:38out by other people, or drown other people out.
- 28:43So there's something that you have to do to equalise your
- 28:46volume with the collective volume so that you can hear
- 28:51yourself, but you can also hear other people.
- 28:55So just by chanting the mantra, you have to be aware of others
- 28:59and you have to be aware of the collective sound experience as
- 29:05well as what's happening for you and the sound that you are
- 29:09producing yourself. So that's, that's just a quick
- 29:13one. It breaks us out of this is me
- 29:16and my practice. Even I'm in a room full of
- 29:18people, which again, meditation, sometimes we can slip into that.
- 29:23It's not the case, but it's easy to think that that's the case.
- 29:29All right. And then the last one before we
- 29:31do some chanting, but this is a more subtle 1.
- 29:36So I, I think all those things that I've said, they can break
- 29:39us out of certain unhelpful habits.
- 29:42They can break us out of just just being with ourselves and
- 29:48into being with others. I think the other thing that
- 29:51mantra can break for us, and this is where we pick up again
- 29:56on the story, is it can help to break down the centrality of our
- 30:03own self identification. So if you're remembering the
- 30:07story, what happens for have a look at Tetra is he has a
- 30:10selfish thought. Maybe it's better if I just
- 30:13worry about my own suffering and happiness and forget everybody
- 30:17else and that's when he breaks. Yeah.
- 30:21So you could say all Buddhist practice is trying to loosen, if
- 30:27not break, that centrality of our self identity, that sense
- 30:33that we're at the centre of things, which, let's be honest,
- 30:36we all have. But can we loosen that?
- 30:40Can we even breakthrough that? And if we can, what the story is
- 30:45suggesting is that something else can emerge, something else
- 30:49can come through that is greater than our limited idea of
- 30:56ourselves and expression of ourselves.
- 31:00So mantra, I would say, is a way of breaking down that centrality
- 31:05of self identification and opening up to something greater
- 31:11than just ourselves. And if you think about it, what
- 31:17we're doing, as I said at the beginning on immediately, is
- 31:22saying it's not just you, there's the whole cosmos.
- 31:27Yeah. And what is that other than a
- 31:30complete mystery to us, really? So om we're already breaking out
- 31:35of self identity, then we're saying the name of a Buddha or
- 31:39Bodhisattva who has gone beyond self identification and is the
- 31:45expression in the world of what we call enlightenment with all
- 31:49its manifest qualities. So have a look at Teshwara's
- 31:53name translates as something like the Lord who looks down,
- 31:58looks down, not not judge mentally, but looks down with
- 32:02compassion, with a motherly quality or a parental kind of
- 32:08quality. So he's known as the Lord of
- 32:11Compassion. Vajrapani, I mentioned earlier,
- 32:16the enlightened quality of energy.
- 32:19If you have a look at Britain's screensaver, he's blue and on
- 32:23fire. Yeah.
- 32:25So there's a high energy, wrathful kind of energy, the
- 32:31quality of Manjushree, or we don't have Manjushree anywhere
- 32:35in here. But is Wisdom the bodhisattva of
- 32:38wisdom, Tara, the Bodhisattva of compassion, fearless compassion.
- 32:44So when we say the names of these Buddhas or bodhisattvas,
- 32:48we're evoking a certain quality. Yeah, this incredible quality of
- 32:55wisdom and compassion. And then we have the seed
- 32:59syllable, the essence. May that be realized also within
- 33:04me. So every time we say the mantra,
- 33:08if you were to say it 100 * 1000 * 100,000 times, you're bringing
- 33:14that quality into the world or you are evoking that quality in
- 33:20the world. In the old magic tradition, they
- 33:22said if you say the name of something, it appears.
- 33:27So if you say Avalo Kateshwara's name, Avalo Kateshwara, whatever
- 33:32he or it is this great compassion conjoined with
- 33:38wisdom, it's there. So it's breaking us out of this
- 33:46self identification and evoking these enlightened qualities.
- 33:51Yeah, OK. So there you go.
- 33:58I think now we'll do some chanting and just try see what
- 34:03some of all of those ideas and yeah, things have done.
- 34:13So it's interesting how as soon as I say that, everybody starts
- 34:17getting into position, which is really good, isn't it?
- 34:21Because, you know, OK, mantra is something embodied, and it would
- 34:27be a good idea if I adopt A certain posture for it.
- 34:32You don't have to have a special posture.
- 34:35But yeah, just remember that what we're about to do is we're
- 34:39using our body as an instrument here.
- 34:42Not that it has to be perfectly tuned, but we are using the body
- 34:48as an instrument and a little tip.
- 34:52So when it when we chant mantra repetitively, one thing we can
- 34:59look into is are we holding in the body or is the body free to
- 35:04chant? And the area where often we we
- 35:07get a lot of holding is in the neck.
- 35:10Yeah, particularly where the head and the spine meet.
- 35:14So just just allow your neck to be free and your head to be
- 35:18balancing on top of the spine. So as soon as we start using the
- 35:21voice, the habit is to stick the chin out.
- 35:25See see if you can do it with that.
- 35:29And we're going to chant the Have a look at Teshra mantra on
- 35:32Mani Padme Hung. If you've never done this
- 35:36before, just give it a go and see what it's like.
- 35:40And the first time we do it, I will just invite you to bear in
- 35:44mind the first few things I said so that, OK, you might drift
- 35:49off, you might think about things, but at some point you
- 35:52will come back and the mantra will still be going.
- 35:56So just notice what goes on in your own mind as you're chanting
- 36:01the mantra. And at some point, I'll ring a
- 36:04bell to bring the mantra to a close.
- 36:10And the first time, let me do it twice.
- 36:13On Money Padme hung. On money Padme hung.
- 36:15And then you can all join in and I'm just going to grab the bell.
- 36:32And as some of you know, we sometimes have melodic chanting.
- 36:36This is going to be a monotonous chant just so we can strip back
- 36:42the whole thing of it being singing and having to be nice.
- 36:45It doesn't. We're just making a sound here.
- 36:47Yeah. So just a moment to settle for
- 36:53me to settle. Oh Manny Padme home.
- 37:14Oh Manny Padme home. Oh Manny Padme home.
- 37:23Oh, Manny Padme home. So just sitting quietly for a
- 41:07moment and noticing the effect of that on your mind, but also
- 41:13the body and also the effect on your relationship to the space
- 41:27and the room and the other people in the room with us.
- 41:54OK, so for myself, there's a very obvious difference.
- 42:00I don't know how it is for all of you, but my internal energy,
- 42:05let's say, and sensations in the body are different.
- 42:10My experience of the room is different.
- 42:13The atmosphere in the room feels to have changed through doing
- 42:17that. So interesting.
- 42:22I hope it's interesting. So we're going to chant again,
- 42:26and this time we'll do it slightly differently.
- 42:29So just looking at the Buddha at the front of the room, if you
- 42:35are on this side of the Buddha, your team won, let's say.
- 42:41And if you're on this, actually you're Manny.
- 42:45And if you're on that side of the Buddha, you're Padme.
- 42:48OK. If you're roughly in line with
- 42:51the Buddha and not sure which side you're on, just just choose
- 42:55one or the other. Manny or Padme.
- 42:57Yeah. And when?
- 42:59We do it this time we'll start, I'll start twice and then third
- 43:03time is Manny's turn, 4th time is Padme.
- 43:07And then you will both alternate one side after to the other.
- 43:13And the reason we're doing it like this is because, like I
- 43:17said, we're we're tuning in with others.
- 43:19So there's our chanting. This is giving us more of a
- 43:22chance to also hear the mantra. But traditionally it's often
- 43:27said that mantra is more about listening and being receptive.
- 43:32So we think it's active because we're doing the mantra, but
- 43:36actually the quality what that we want as we're doing that is
- 43:40to be listening and receptive to the mantra.
- 43:43So this just makes that more explicit because we will chant
- 43:47and then we will receive the mantra from the other side.
- 43:52And also we can think of this quality of compassion that we're
- 43:56evoking through chanting Avalo Kateshwar's mantra.
- 44:00That's not something we're doing or putting out there.
- 44:04It's something we're tuning into and opening to and receiving.
- 44:09Yeah, OK, so ready. A bit more shuffling.
- 44:20So twice I do it twice, then money on this side and then
- 44:26fourth time this side and then backwards and forth.
- 44:35Oh, Manny Padme home. Oh, Manny Padme home.
- 47:23The. So again, just sitting and
- 47:58noticing the. Effect.
- 48:06I'm just. Staying with that listening
- 48:07quality, so the mantra is not sounding anymore, but maybe we
- 48:12just keep listening. So listening externally, but
- 48:23also listening internally for echoes of the mantra.
- 48:54OK. So obviously that that was a
- 48:58different way of doing it and will have been a different
- 49:00experience for myself, I have to say, I found listening to the
- 49:05mantra is more challenging and being receptive and staying with
- 49:11other people chanting while I listen more challenging.
- 49:15Maybe that was a common experience.
- 49:16Maybe that says something about me that I need to reflect on.
- 49:22So yeah, I just, we were doing it in that way to bring out this
- 49:26quality of listening so that, yes, it's something active, we
- 49:29feel it in the body, but also it's something that we're
- 49:32opening to and listening. To we've.
- 49:37Got a few minutes left so I'm just going to invite us to do
- 49:40one more round. This time we'll all chant
- 49:43together at the same time and we will do the chanting with one of
- 49:48the melodies that you might be familiar with from other rituals
- 49:52at the Buddhist centre. So just just bring everything
- 49:56we've explored and what I've said into doing it in this more
- 50:00typical way, the more usual way, and the introduction of the
- 50:05melody it I think it's not a degradation.
- 50:10So that can bring out a certain quality.
- 50:13You know, we have these melodies for a reason.
- 50:18Where they've come from, I'm not sure.
- 50:20It could have been from somebody's personal practice.
- 50:24It could have been they've been picked up from other traditions,
- 50:27but presumably they give expression to different people's
- 50:31responses to, in this case, have a look at Teshwara.
- 50:35So what would the Lord of compassion, what would the
- 50:39Buddha's compassionate mind sound like?
- 50:44Yeah. So what it looks like, we've got
- 50:46these stylized Buddha figures. Compassion looks like a figure
- 50:51with 1000 arms and 11 heads from the Indo Tibetan imagination.
- 50:57So what? What would compassion sound
- 51:00like? And that's what the mantra
- 51:02represents, what it would sound like in the world.
- 51:06So maybe the melody helps bring that beauty of the mantra out or
- 51:12give emphasis to that. So I'll, I'll chant twice and
- 51:17then you can join in and we just do this for a couple of minutes
- 51:21and I'll ring a bell again to finish money.
- 51:34Pardon me. OK, always a shame to break that
- 54:12silence after the mantra. So it's interesting, isn't it,
- 54:16how in the chanting, the mantra is present and then when we
- 54:20stop, it's absent but we somehow feel it or it can still somehow
- 54:26resonate or echo. So hopefully chanting the mantra
- 54:30together this morning will create that kind of resonance or
- 54:34echo throughout the rest of your day.
- 54:37That would be ideal. So let's hope so.
- 54:42The world needs some more compassion so you now can carry
- 54:45that echo out into the world with you.
- 54:48And do give give mantra practice a try and see if it has the
- 54:52kinds of effects. Don't take my word for it, go
- 54:55and try it and see what happens. Thank you for listening.
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