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Danny McBride _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _568(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: Today's guest is a comedian, an actor, a writer, and
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  Speaker 1: a director known for some of the funniest shows that
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  Speaker 1: anyone has ever seen. He's going into his fourth season
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  Speaker 1: and final season of Righteous Gemstones, which just kicked off
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  Speaker 1: on HBO. Vice Principals, Eastbound and Down. He's a legend,
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  Speaker 1: and he's one of the most requested human beings ever
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  Speaker 1: to be a guest on this show. I'm grateful. to
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  Speaker 1: spend time with Mr. Danny McBride.
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  Speaker 2: You already filmed a few of these today, or is
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  Speaker 2: this just am I the only lucky guy today?
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  Speaker 1: Only guy.
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  Speaker 2: Look at us.
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  Speaker 1: This is amazing. So thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kidding me. We good? Sick. Is this going to
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  Speaker 2: have where all of our lines are, what we have
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  Speaker 2: to say in the interview? That'll be up there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be so good.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually not a bad idea. If the whole interview
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  Speaker 1: were scripted, man, that'd be freaking pretty amazing, man. Good
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  Speaker 1: to see you today. No, I got this. There's a
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  Speaker 1: place called Macho Luther King that I went to, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is, it just like, is that a, like,
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  Speaker 1: are we at that level where you're taking a guy
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  Speaker 1: like that and.
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  Speaker 2: Turning it into like a pun?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Matcha Luther King.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool, but it was just like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: They have the I have a cream drink. It's just
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  Speaker 2: like a cream coffee.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have a medium. That's crazy, dude. Good to see
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  Speaker 1: you today, Danny McBride. Thanks for hanging out.
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  Speaker 2: We're on. This is happening. We're doing it, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, is it okay?
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  Speaker 2: Perfect. I was waiting for this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I just definitely just having one of those
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  Speaker 1: days where it's like my skin feels all dry and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder why that is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how hydration became like
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  Speaker 1: the hot thing in the past 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: Is that it? People only started drinking water and hydrating
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  Speaker 2: the last 10 years, you think?
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  Speaker 1: It's more prevalent. People like stay hydrated and stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: just think it feels more– it's more popular for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You're in Burbank though. There's this dry climate out here.
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  Speaker 2: It dries you out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be true.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like Charleston, South Carolina. It's always balmy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sweaty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Wet. Oh, dude, I went to CFC for
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  Speaker 1: a semester.
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  Speaker 2: Did you really? Yeah. The College of Knowledge. Yeah, baby.
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  Speaker 1: I used to live on King Street over there, right across.
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  Speaker 1: They had a Bebe store over there. It was like
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  Speaker 1: women's fine clothing or something.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't think it's still there.
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  Speaker 1: Or body textiles or something. They had a place called
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  Speaker 1: Silver Dollar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bar that we used to go to.
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  Speaker 2: I've been to that place before. Have you? Yep. Yeah, boy.
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  Speaker 2: Charleston's a pretty fun spot.
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  Speaker 1: God, it's great. Except I took a girl on one
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  Speaker 1: of the, I mean, it's one of the, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the five most unique cities in America.
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  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: And I took a girl on like a carriage tour
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And it was a black girl that I
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  Speaker 1: was dating at the time. And a lot of it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of, it gets a little, you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: the history around there is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. They got some history around there.
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  Speaker 1: It's some risque history. So, like, in a certain point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tip the driver early. Like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: just tell me. Can we change this to a ghost
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  Speaker 1: tour maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but dude, it's so
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  Speaker 1: fun there. And you go out to like the beach
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  Speaker 1: and stuff there. Do you guys spend time on the
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  Speaker 1: beach or what is your life like there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I live by the beach. And then, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: on the water all the time there. That's like the
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  Speaker 2: beauty of that city. You got all that water. You
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  Speaker 2: got all those good restaurants. The people are nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty sweet spot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good. And you can kind of learn
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  Speaker 1: to surf there. People don't realize that. You can kind
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  Speaker 1: of learn to like baby surf there. There's just enough
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  Speaker 1: little wave action.
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  Speaker 2: Just the perfect little waves, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever get out there on them?
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm too top-heavy to surf. I'm more of
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  Speaker 2: a bodyboarder. Yeah. You ever seen big, heavy dudes try
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  Speaker 2: to surf? It's really– it's hilarious. Is it? It's like Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Potato Head body out there trying to surf. The aerodynamics
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  Speaker 2: are off. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't they have who's coming out with the
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  Speaker 1: big boy board, you know? Big and tall needs.
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  Speaker 2: A surfboard, I feel like. You have to just go
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  Speaker 2: all in on the boogie boarding. Like, no, I'm good
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  Speaker 2: at this. This is what I'm all about. I could
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  Speaker 2: stand up on this thing, but I choose not to.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, but is there anything a little bit dicier than
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  Speaker 1: being an adult boogie boarder? Like, at a certain point. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's true. You're not going to pick up any new
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  Speaker 1: fans doing it. The wives are always just standing in
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  Speaker 1: the distance, like, just waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Shaking heads. Like, I'm in it for the children. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I brought you a present today.
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  Speaker 1: Did you really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always like to share new products that I find
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  Speaker 2: useful in my life, and this is a dick laser. Oh, damn.
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  Speaker 2: What it is is it's like a laser pointer that
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  Speaker 2: is a dick, that projects dicks. Oh, really? Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: if anyone's running their mouth too much in here, look
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  Speaker 2: at your shoe. Look what I put on your shoe
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  Speaker 2: right there.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa, that's cool. That's pure cock, huh?
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  Speaker 2: It's pure cock. There's some variable settings on there, too,
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  Speaker 2: I think, where you can kind of change what nasty
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  Speaker 2: stuff you put. That's the PG end right there. That's
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  Speaker 2: just your light. The other end is where you get
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  Speaker 2: the dick right there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. So this is where you find a suspect like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the other one's where you embarrass him.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, dude. Thank you, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. I think you could use that. Anytime
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  Speaker 2: anyone's talking too much in here, you just throw one
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  Speaker 2: of those across their forehead, and it'll shut them up fast. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you see an old guy, you put a
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  Speaker 2: limping on him just to fucking... I make my cats
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  Speaker 2: chase it around the house. It's pretty useful. Oh, yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing cooler than that, seeing some cats chasing a
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  Speaker 1: little cock around. Those are the good old days, you know? Bro,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. This is so nice, man. I've had two
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  Speaker 1: really neat gifts, and this is definitely one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Cherish it forever.
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  Speaker 1: Very sweet of you. Was your neighborhood cool growing up,
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  Speaker 1: or was it like in a city? I know you
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  Speaker 1: grew up in Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: I know that. I was born in Georgia, but... Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you grew up in Virginia. Sorry. Yeah, Virginia... I was
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  Speaker 2: born in Georgia, and then we actually spent a few
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  Speaker 2: years after that. My dad was a guard in the
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  Speaker 2: prison at Lompoc in Lompoc, California. So I lived for
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  Speaker 2: a few years on the prison reservation right outside of
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  Speaker 2: the prison where, like, all the people lived whose parents
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  Speaker 2: worked in the prison. What?
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  Speaker 1: All the, like, prison family, like, those children? All types
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  Speaker 1: of– I bet it was pretty diverse over there, was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was. Pretty tough crowd. Yeah, it was crazy. What?
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  Speaker 2: I lived there and then my dad got transferred to
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  Speaker 2: the federal bureau of prisons in DC. And so that's
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  Speaker 2: when we moved to Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: Is it scary being this child of somebody that works
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  Speaker 1: at a prison? Like what's that kind of energy like?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I didn't really kind of get it
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  Speaker 2: until like, I mean, this was like, I'm talking like
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  Speaker 2: real little, like I moved out of there and we
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  Speaker 2: were like in kindergarten, but I can remember though, one
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  Speaker 2: night the alarms going off and like my dad came
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  Speaker 2: in and like rounded me and my sister out and
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  Speaker 2: we had to go into their bedroom and shut the door.
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  Speaker 2: And I like looked out the window and it was
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  Speaker 2: just my dad with the shotgun and going outside, jumping
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  Speaker 2: in the back of a pickup truck with all my
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  Speaker 2: friends' dads. There was like a prison break and they
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  Speaker 2: were going to go chase the dudes down. It was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: this is some real shit right here. Yeah, bro.
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  Speaker 1: God, that's cool. Yeah, because I wonder if you did like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're dead, I guess he doesn't bring work home
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  Speaker 1: because that would be like having an inmate come over
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  Speaker 1: for dinner or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I think if he brings work home, there's a big problem.
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  Speaker 1: We grew up by this, it was like a prosthetic
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  Speaker 1: kind of Not factory, I guess. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: hoping that, like, after the war, like, prostheticking would scale
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  Speaker 1: up or whatever. But so– but it never really did.
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  Speaker 1: But they had a lot of– they give us, like,
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  Speaker 1: the used– like, the fucking– you can get them out back.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the used ones, the ones that didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Used prosthetics, ones that people didn't want?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, returns or ones that were– they did to– they
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  Speaker 1: didn't– It's not like veneers, but they just didn't do
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  Speaker 1: the edging right on it or something, or the hand
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  Speaker 1: was too small for the guy who ordered it.
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  Speaker 2: The pinky was too sharp, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah. Can't even hug my wife
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  Speaker 1: with this, yeah. But we would, yeah, you'd have people like,
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  Speaker 1: or it would be two middle fingers, some, you know,
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  Speaker 1: guar fan would get, like, one with two middle fingers
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  Speaker 1: on it. But that was something that was always funny
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  Speaker 1: around us, because you'd see, like, people would chase each
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  Speaker 1: other with different little appendages, or you'd see fucking somebody...
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  Speaker 1: you know, not hit their wife, but throw a hand
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  Speaker 1: at her, you know, or something. It was cool that
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  Speaker 1: you knew where to find those, those rejects.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. It just made things fun. Or you
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  Speaker 1: see like somebody try to break into a car, but
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  Speaker 1: not using their own fingerprints.
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  Speaker 2: Like try to. It's brilliant. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just type shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Commit crimes. I like it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, it was a different time, but, um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I missed that a lot. Um, I bet you have influence.
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  Speaker 1: You could probably get fake hands with two middle fingers still,
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  Speaker 1: if you want it to, I bet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Somebody can send them your way.
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  Speaker 1: They need that though, dude. Especially with just how things
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  Speaker 1: are going these days. It's like I think you almost
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  Speaker 1: want two middles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like with the state of the world,
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  Speaker 2: we all definitely need more middle fingers. Yeah. We don't
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  Speaker 2: have enough.
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  Speaker 1: Do you– since you live over there in Charleston, do
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  Speaker 1: you stay out of like– I know that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have social media and stuff like that. You just keep
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff out of your life?
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  Speaker 2: I really do, yeah. Like– When we shot Vice Principals,
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  Speaker 2: Walton Goggins and Busy Phillips, they were on there. And
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  Speaker 2: they were involved with social media. And they were kind
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  Speaker 2: of telling me, you got to get in there. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And so I had an Instagram account for a matter
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  Speaker 2: of a few months and was like, fuck this. I
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  Speaker 2: felt like it was a gateway for just crazy people
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  Speaker 2: to be able to reach out and touch. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just wasn't that. I don't know. It wasn't my deal.
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  Speaker 2: Some people I know are amazing at that stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just didn't feel like a natural fit for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just good that you, like, recognize that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of addicting, and it makes you feel bad,
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  Speaker 1: I think, sometimes. Some things are nice to see because
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  Speaker 1: it feels inspirational, but then sometimes you're just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're keeping up with this kind of weird void, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like.
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  Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it purely. The only thing
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  Speaker 2: I miss about it is I like seeing bum fights.
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  Speaker 2: I like seeing all the schoolyard fights. I like seeing fights.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I like to see on there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They have everything. They even have gauze on
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  Speaker 1: there now, so it's upscaled a little bit. it's upscaled
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Do you miss like– when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: like things were dumb. Like shit was just– you could
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  Speaker 1: be funny all day. You didn't give a shit. Like
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  Speaker 1: somebody had noodles or something when you got home. Like
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  Speaker 1: there was just– shit was possible, right?
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  Speaker 2: Somebody had noodles when you got home?
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  Speaker 1: Or it was just like– Everything was going to kind
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  Speaker 1: of be okay. Do you miss like, but I noticed
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  Speaker 1: as I get older, I just, my brain doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: come up with like some of the ideas and stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I had when I was a kid. And like, like,
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  Speaker 1: do you notice any of that for yourself? Like that
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  Speaker 1: you felt like your humor was different than, or that
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  Speaker 1: humor changes as you get, as you get older.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like, I feel like if you're creative,
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  Speaker 2: being bored is good sometimes. Right. And I feel like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes with these phones, with all this information all the time, it,
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  Speaker 2: your brain is just constantly occupied by other people's noise.
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  Speaker 2: And so I felt like when I kind of turned
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  Speaker 2: that stuff off, I just felt like there was all
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  Speaker 2: of this noise that just went away and that all
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  Speaker 2: my stupid ideas could flourish. I could make jokes about noodles.
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  Speaker 2: Anything was possible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call, man. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because maybe sometimes I think I miss. That is what
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  Speaker 1: I miss. I almost miss feeling, I know this sounds weird,
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  Speaker 1: I almost miss feeling dumb a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not knowing about everything that's going on in the world. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And not wearing all these things on my face that
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  Speaker 1: aren't even of my own life kind of in a way,
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  Speaker 1: you know? And I had this weird thought about the
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  Speaker 1: other day. Like, say if, like, you're a parent and
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  Speaker 1: you're always seeing, like, these cute things that kids do
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  Speaker 1: on TikToks and different things. I wonder if it affects
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  Speaker 1: the way a little bit. Like, if your kid isn't
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  Speaker 1: as boisterous or isn't, like, does it, like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Like, just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about, like, it takes almost all of our, like,
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  Speaker 1: some of our good, like, our good reactions or the
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  Speaker 1: things that are kind of supposed to be reserved for
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  Speaker 1: kind of real people in our lives, does it start
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  Speaker 1: to like take those reactions to those people? Does it
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  Speaker 1: make any sense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it totally does. I feel that you'll see
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  Speaker 2: people on there that are going on these beautiful vacations.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, damn, how do they know about, how do
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  Speaker 2: they know to go to these places? I don't know this.
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  Speaker 2: Like you start comparing all these things in your world
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  Speaker 2: to what you see there. I mean, I, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: someone who's like, I'm not against it all. I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's also awesome, Stuff with just anyone being able
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  Speaker 2: to have a voice and anyone being able to reach
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  Speaker 2: people that have– what's it called? But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: for me, I just kind of– I saw that it
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  Speaker 2: probably wasn't going to be the best thing for me.
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  Speaker 1: So I just didn't participate. Fuck, that's brave of you though.
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  Speaker 1: You're almost like damn Christopher Columbus. I feel like you
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  Speaker 1: just don't see a lot of it. It's cool, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for it to go extinct and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it ever will. So now I'm just– I'm like
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  Speaker 2: the Amish, man. I'm just pretending like none of these
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  Speaker 2: advancements are there, dude. I'm just in my house making
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  Speaker 2: rocking chairs and selling taffy.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you do? Is that what you spend
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  Speaker 1: your time? Do you have some good hobbies actually?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I need to get some hobbies. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have good hobbies. I think my hobbies were always like
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  Speaker 2: making stuff. Like when I was a kid, I'd make
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  Speaker 2: movies or write stuff. And then once that became my job,
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  Speaker 2: then people are like, what are you into? It's like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess just my job is what I'm into. But
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: that's what's beautiful about Charleston. You can get on that water.
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  Speaker 2: You can get outside. And so that stuff is great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I had a roommate over there. We would
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  Speaker 1: drink so much gin and tonics and just wet the
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  Speaker 1: bed all the time over there.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of bed wetters in Charleston.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful. People were like, I'm on the sailing team. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, sure you are, brother. You better fucking put
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  Speaker 1: a catamaran between you and your wife, dude. Oh, you
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: know who I saw yesterday speaking on social media?
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  Speaker 2: The Rizzler.
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  Speaker 1: You ever seen this kid?
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen the Rizzler, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I met him in person. Yes. I'm having dinner, right?
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I was having dinner. I look over and it's a
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: kid and you don't want to look for too long
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: because it's like, it's just not something you do and
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: look at him.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Look at him, dude. Oh, and you got a pic
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: with him too. I love it, man.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Bro, I was so excited. But it's kind of weird
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: because you don't want to be like, I'm talking to
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: a kid or whatever.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: And then, but.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Definitely, dude, I'll say this.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Wait, where were you guys at? Was that Craig's? I
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: went to Craig's dinner. The Rizzler's just hanging out at Craig's.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, it blew my mind. There was like some guy
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: in there who like had like, overdosed on age or something,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: like some super old.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Guy who's like, I'm a producer, you know?
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: He's like, I produced the Mayflower or whatever. I was like,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: that was a fucking boat. That was a boat in
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: the 1800s. But yeah, anyway, this was like the coolest
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: thing that ever happened.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: So I was so excited.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: And not to snitch on him or whatever, first of all,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: he had two Pepsis or whatever past 8 p.m., which
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I think he is.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's late. The bedtime stories won't work anymore. He'll
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: be up all night.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little late. And Some people say his
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: grades have been suffering, and I'm like, well.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I think he's evolved past grades, right? He's never going
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: to have to learn anything. He's just going to be
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: able to do whatever he wants in this world, I think.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: My son watches all this stuff, so he keeps me
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: up to date on who's who. The Rizzler, you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: he shows me the ways.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely nice. I mean,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: it was just neat to see him. It was interesting
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: to be impressed by a child. But he's kind of
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: like the Macaulay Culkin of their generation, it seems like.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's a reach. But yeah, he was
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: fucking eating at Craig's. It was very bizarre. And I
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: asked him a question, and he just started doing his
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: arms like that. Did he do his little move to you?
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Did he give it to you or no? I don't
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: think I got it. I think he– I mean, I'm
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: an adult, and I shouldn't have really been talking to him.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: So I think I was a little– and the weird
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: thing is you see all these adults looking at him.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: It's just got to be so weird to be him.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: It does. It's like he's this generation's Shirley Temple.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an Italian Shirley Temple. But he definitely looks
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: like– yeah, I just heard his grades have been suffering.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And I even was like the dad. I was like–
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: somebody said he's had issues in social studies. And he
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: looked at his dad like, you've been telling people.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you talking about my grades?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: That was kind of interesting. My friend and I made
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: a movie. David Spade and I wrote a movie. Thank
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you for inspiring people to like just kind of create
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: stuff on their own.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. Yeah, I have some buddies who I
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: think– Steve Little was in it. Yes, yes. That's great.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Did you guys have fun with him?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, he was the best. Maybe him and Chris Elliott were, like,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the best people that came in.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Man, that's great. Yeah, Steve Little is such a good dude.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: He's so incredibly funny. He's so sweet, too. Yeah, sweet
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and kind. I love him.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: He's just like a teddy bear that's been, like, not
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: in a halfway house, but definitely, like, like bootcamp, like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: could have been a wrestler type of energy.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: But like, yeah. And he's fearless. He'll do anything.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: He was like just, yeah, it was awesome just for
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: him to be in there. Did you cast for him? Like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: were you the picker for him? Yeah, I was the picker.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. When we wrote the pilot for Eastbound and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: we had that role, you know, we were, we just
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: went to like, you know, we went through the regular
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: casting process. And honestly, like, as soon as I saw him,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: then that's where that character kind of blew up then.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: There was no intentions when we first wrote that, that
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: that character would be such a big deal in the show.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: But it was seeing how genuinely funny he was and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: how cool he was. Then every season just became like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: what can we get Steve to do this year? He
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: never shied away from any of it. He was always game.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: He'd always take it much further than we ever imagined.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: He was amazing.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's special. And he drank out of those little
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: creamer cups. I saw him drink a couple of those.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: In a row. Me and him went down to Guadalajara,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Mexico once. I guess it was beginning of last year.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I was launching this tequila brand, Don Gato, and I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: got him to come down there with me and we
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: shot these ads for it. And after the first day
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of shooting, I came down to the hotel bar and
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: he was just there with a pad and paper. And
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm handwriting
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: my mom a letter. Tell her how much fun I'm
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: having here. I was like, that's what I love about
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Steve Little. He handwrites his mom letters. It's a special
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: person who does that. Yeah, yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: He definitely seems like a hug that got left somewhere
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but rescued.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: We texted a little bit after I got to touch
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: base with them and say, Hey, but that was just crazy.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And it's just crazy. Like you see people and you're like, Oh,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this works for casting because we would have friends that
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: would send in videos and some of them are like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: audition tapes. And then you're like, Oh man, that's my friend,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but it just doesn't fit for this thing. It's just
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: not the right fit. It's like, it's super specific kind
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of to watch because I used to just put in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: audition tapes and I would never get booked for anything.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And I was like, But then this time we're getting
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the videos in because we're doing the casting. You're like, oh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: first of all, I see why I never got anything.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Like my shit was very obtuse. But then you'd have
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: friends that would send a roll and you're like, oh,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this is almost perfect. Or this would be kind of risky,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but it might be adventurous. That was probably one of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the most fun things, I think, about creating something.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that casting is definitely fun because stuff can just
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: take a new life on. And you're right. It's one
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: of those deals where someone can be really good. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: you can kind of tell instantly whether it's the right
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: fit or not, not even based on their talent, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: like whatever ideas you had in mind for what that
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: character looked like or how they talked. And you can
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: kind of tell instantly when someone comes in, like, yep
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: or nope, you know, and I think that's a hard gig, man. Just,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I've been lucky that I have like tried to write
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: most of the things that I've done, but yeah, just
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: being an actress to show up constantly and put yourself
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: out there in that way. It's tough, man. It is hard.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And drive over there and be depressed while you're driving
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: over there. trying to do your lines and be in traffic.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Sitting in a lobby where it's a bunch of dudes
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: who look kind of like you sucks.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh God, dude.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: That was some of the tough, like I did that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for probably six or seven years probably. And I never
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: had any hope that I was going to, I almost
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: did it. I think, I don't even know why I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: was doing it. I think you're just in LA also
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: when you're young enough, you have the energy to do it. Um,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: With Fist, Foot, Way, you didn't write that, right? Jody
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Hill wrote it?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Me and Jody wrote it together.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You wrote it together. And you guys shot that on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Super 16 or no?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Super 16, yep. Okay.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And you made that without going through SAG and stuff, right?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: No, it was totally independent. I think we shot it
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: for about. 70 grand. Shot it in like a little
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: less than three weeks. And yeah, it was all just buddies.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Everyone just came down there to do it. And- Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was we had Jody and I had
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: both lived in L.A. for a few years at that point. And,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you know, neither of us had found like any real success.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And so it was sort of a Hail Mary of
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: just like, all right, let's just see if we can
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: kind of do this on our own.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And what do you what do you notice that's easier
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: about doing a film like that or doing something where
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you have to go through all the where everything is more,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you know, guilds and all of that?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're at a place where you can
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: afford the guilds, then you already have a leg up.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: You know, you're already kind of in the zone. That
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: thing there was like there's no one trying to help
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: us make it. There's no one– you know, they're not–
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: they don't care about it not being the guilds because
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: they just don't ever think it will see the light
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of day. So, you know, every bit of that is
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a fight because not only do you have to kind
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of get the resources and figure out how to do
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: it and how to talk people into coming and doing
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: it when there's no upside for them. Uh, but then
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: even once it's done, there's no guarantee that anything will
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: ever happen with it, you know? And so I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that can be pretty discouraging for people sometimes. Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's definitely interesting. Like we got, we made this
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: movie and now we're figuring out, like we wrote it
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and everything we funded ourselves. So it's super scary. Cause
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, all you really have right now is this
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: piece of debt kind of. Um, but then, and then
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it's like too long right now. It's just like, we
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: got to figure it out. It just seems like it's,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The whole thing has been super fascinating.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a, it's a crazy process. And now, especially
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the entertainment industry has changed so much and yeah, it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: all risk. It seems like these days. Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Do you, um, do you envy things about the entertainment
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: industry right now? Like as opposed to whenever you kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of first got into it?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I feel, I find interesting is like, I,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I went to film school in North Carolina.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: That's where I met Jody Hill and a lot of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the guys I work with. And, uh, you know, in
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the nineties, there was just like such a, uh, a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: healthy independent, like film market. I mean, you were going
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: to film school and You're seeing guys like Tarantino and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Kevin Smith and all these dudes are just like making
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: stuff that's pretty simple and it's not requiring massive budgets
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and they're finding audiences. And so it was inspiring. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: felt like you could do it, like you were– like
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: anyone could do it. And it's kind of funny that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: it was much harder to make an independent film then.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I mean you had to shoot on film. You had
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to like– there was all these elements of things that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: were super expensive. Oh, yeah. And it seems kind of
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: crazy that– With technology, it should be easier than ever
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to make something independent, but it feels like the market
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: is like not as healthy as it used to be.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's kind of disappointing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. But yeah. And then but something new
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: will come out of it. Right. That's how you kind
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of think, like, how does this evolve? What happens next?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You know, that sort of thing. was there a movie
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that you like, like that you may, that you wrote
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: or that a role or some little piece of something
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to do that once you started to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: get a little older, because sometimes I'm like, fuck, this
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: thing would have, for me would have been great. Like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: seven years ago, I think I could have pulled it off,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but now it's like, um, do you ever think like that? Like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was there some, like, was there something you had? You
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: were like, fuck, now I'm going to have to cast
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: somebody to do it instead of do it. I, uh.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It's so hard writing stuff that most of the time
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: when I have written something, it's been with the intention
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of going and making it. I only have a few
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: things that I've written that I didn't kind of move on.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: But most of them were just because it wasn't any
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: good and it wasn't something to kind of pursue. But luckily,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: all the stuff I've really put my energy into, I've
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: been able to see it to fruition in some way
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: or another. Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what I think about. I had this
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: idea for this thing. It was like Sinkhole Baby, right?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Like a guy, like the sole survivor of a sinkhole, right? Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Sinkhole Baby. In a small town, right? And people are like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they fucking love him because he made it because God
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: picked him. And at the cafe, they even have like
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a little oatmeal there, but they put a raisin in it,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: like at.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The town cafe. That's him, that's Sinkhole Baby.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: That's him, yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Wait, and so you think that you've gotten too old
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to be Sinkhole Baby now?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well, because, but then what happens is, It creates a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: lot of hype when something happens to you that you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: didn't plan, right? Like suddenly you're a celebrity, but how
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: do you live up to that in a small town
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: when you didn't really do anything? When really God did
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: it with gravity and now you have to fucking live
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like the repercussions of being sinkhole baby. And then you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: go on tour with like other people like hit by
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: lightning guy and fucking, you know.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I think you need to make this, dude. There's a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: story here. Look at this.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I just feel sometimes like I'm just getting a little
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: too old.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, you're never too old to be a sinkhole, baby.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That's one thing I've learned in this world. Really? You
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: think that? Yeah, I believe that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And I think I don't know what the second half
• 24:18
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• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You got to go back in that sinkhole. You left
• 24:21
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• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Your buddy was left behind. Got to get his body.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Got to bring it up. And then at the end,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you go to the cafe and they put two raisins
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: on top of that. That's how you win in the end.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see Shane Gillis sometimes? Have you seen him?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I love Shane.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Have you gotten to meet him or no?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I have. Yeah, we helped him produce Tires, his show
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: he does for Netflix. You helped him produce it?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I didn't even know that. Yep. Yeah, because
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it's so funny that I think there's times that I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: see him and I'm like, oh, there's something about him
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that– it's not just you, but there's something about the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: way he is.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: He's himself. He's himself, you know, not polished and just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: kind of shooting from the hip, you know. That's good.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I think people respond to it. I think they like
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: seeing that. Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He's a special guy. And just like one look,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he's like– Yep.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And you're in, dude. Yeah, he makes me laugh. He does, man.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He makes everybody laugh. It's good and it's cool to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: see him. Like, Tires was kind of a comedy that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I think kind of changed things because there's jokes in
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: there that I feel like they wouldn't put on Netflix
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago or even five years ago. Yeah. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: now it's changing. Do you feel some of that?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we've always tried to push
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it in everything that we've done. You know, I know
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, you can't make comedies about this,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that anymore. But, you know, even when we made Eastbound
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and Down, it wasn't like they were asking for that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like people were like, We need like a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: racist baseball player that cusses at kids and does cocaine.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: There wasn't like an ad in the trades for it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think that you come in, you make something funny,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and then that's what– that starts new trends. That makes
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: people gravitate towards it. I think that obviously you see
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: people getting in trouble for saying fucked up shit, but–
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I also– like I feel like it's very rarely you
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: see people get in trouble for actually like making something
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that is– I think people get in trouble sometimes rightfully
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: so for saying bad shit. But I mean I can't
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: really think of where people really get in trouble for
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: like making something that pushes the lines. I mean maybe
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like forgetting things but I kind of feel like–
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: A lot of times people just want their ass to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: be kissed, and I think when you make something that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: pushes the boundaries, everyone's not going to kiss your ass.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: People will get upset about it, and you have to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: be cool with that being part of what goes with
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: pushing the boundaries is that those boundaries are going to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: sometimes push back on you, and that's just part of
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the deal.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost relate it. When you're saying that, it
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: makes me feel like if you tweet something, you're just
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: saying something. You're looking for controversy. It's like– But if
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you go out and put out a conversation of something,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: then the response from people is different.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Tweet, people just argue. There's all type of shit. But
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you go and actually put a conversation out, then it
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is more of like discussion and people at least respect
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that you had the conversation.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I think so. I think that's what it is. I mean, obviously,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you can be judged on whether it's good or not.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But that's a different thing than whether if you're just
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: putting something out there that's problematic and people get mad
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: about it. It feels like that's honestly what you're asking for, right?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: When people put something out there that's controversial, it's made
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to have people start fighting, right? Isn't that part of
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: how the whole thing works? I think so.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shane just did SNL. Did you get to see
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: any of it? I did.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I saw– A couple beers. That's pretty funny shit. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: need a couple beers in my personal life. I think
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I will fix a lot of things.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, I fucking used to overdose over
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: there in Charleston, especially on Halloween. Dude, one year I
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: made out with three ladybugs, dude. Oh, just the creatures,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the ladybugs, the actual insects? People dressed as them.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, perfect. And then you wet the bed and went
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: sailing after that? Perfect. That's a perfect night out in Charleston.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: That's the Charleston decathlon right there, dude. Oh yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Every, everything in Charleston seemed haunted. Um, did you, Shane
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: just did SNL. You, did you, you, you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Ever hosted SNL? I've never hosted SNL.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Did you get asked to do, did you not want to,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: or it was a thing or, you know, the, uh,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: is there any real gravity there or am I just
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: slurping around? Cause I'll, I'll fucking shine this dick on
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: myself if you need me to.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You can, you shine there. You know what? Uh, I, uh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I love SNL. I grew up watching it. And, um,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: one of the first movies I ever did was hot rod,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: which is produced by Lorne Michaels. And, uh, When we
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: were shooting Hot Rod, I met Bill Hader and Andy
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Sandberg and Akiva and Jorma and all those guys. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: they were just coming off their first year of SNL.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And so it was cool. I liked those guys. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Lauren had actually kind of prodded me to see if
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I was interested in joining the cast. But it was
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the same exact week that we sold Eastbound and Down.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, as much as I'm flattered,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to go off and do.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And then none of them ever talked to me ever again. Yeah. God, yeah. Yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Well, after seeing Kenny Powers, how do you think Kenny
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Powers would pitch against some of today's hitters, do you think?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I think he would have to juice it up, dude.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: He would. He would have to. Don't you think? I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: feel like there should just be a special league for
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: just all the dudes who juice it up, right? Bring
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: There's a new dope Olympics they're starting up.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I love it. That's a great idea.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: The Trump son is starting up, which is kind of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like imperfect.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Is it really? It's an enhanced game, is what they
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: call it?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Enhanced game, brother. Oh, dude. That's also what I call
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: my erection a.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Lot of times. This is something else.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm one of those pills. Yeah, a group
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: led by Donald Trump Jr. is infusing funding and some
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: political muscle into the enhanced games.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So what's the thought process here? This will sort of–
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: anybody who wants to dope it up will stay out
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: of the regular leagues and they'll gravitate towards this? Is
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: that what it is?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Come over here. Yeah, it says he's offering $ 1 million
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: for the first sprinter to break the 100-meter world record.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine some guy just– the rest of his
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: body is falling off.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: No, they cross the finish line and their hearts explode.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's what happens if you win. Yep. Wow. How do
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you train for these events? I can't wait to see.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's just going to be superhumans leaping over houses.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you how you train in our town.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You would meet up with the guy behind the Winn-Dixie
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and get some test 200. First of all, you would
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: hide it from your wife and have to pull over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on the side of the interstate and shoot. And you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and your buddy, who have been talking about how– who
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: commonly refer to against gay folks, have to pull over
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and shoot it into each other's rear ends.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all your hair falls out and zits
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: start forming on your back, and your wife is like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: what is going on? What happened to you?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: But– but you're ready for the um three-legged race with
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: your buddy to do it yeah i like that that's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: what matters i'll tune in i'm in um you have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: your last season of gemstones.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Last season of gemstones i've been i live in charles
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like we talked about but so i've been out in
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: la this week just running around running my mouth this
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: is my last day of running my mouth it's wonderful.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Oh thank you man i really it really is the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: best for last well it's nice you to say that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and and lie to me but I will say that
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I waited in line one time to get a photo
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: with you like probably maybe 10 years ago somewhere really
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: where I think it was at Comic Con oh really
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: yeah shit it's pretty cool.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I know people, when this show first started, I think
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: everyone thought you were on the show. They always thought
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you were Tony Cavallaro. Oh, yeah. Tony's a buddy of mine. Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you guys had that similar vibe, I think. Actually, honestly,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: when the first season came out, I remember I met
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: with a reporter and they asked me what it was
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: like to work with Theo Vaughn.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Did they?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, that's not Theo Vaughn.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've had people come up to me and think
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I'm in the gym 20 times. I'll play along with it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I like, yeah, but, um, oh, this dude's so awesome, man.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Tony's one of the greats.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I love Tony.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: He's such a sweet guy.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He really is. He's incredible.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Well, somebody put our face right there.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't even notice that.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Look at that one. No wonder some people think this shit.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at you, dude. Look at you.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And that's Trevor Wallace. That's hilarious. These days, you don't
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: even know.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: This is the magic of AI. Look at that. I'd
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: buy it. I know. Um, wow.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And it's very similar chests.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Very similar. Um, Yeah, how do you— I'm just noticing
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: how much more ripped Tony is now. Like, he was
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: always strong, but goddamn, that dude got really strong over
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the last few years. Yeah, well, he just has such
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a— Him and Devine oftentimes when we're shooting down Charleston,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: those guys have the same schedule, and so every day
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that they're not working, they're just fucking pumping iron together.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Are they? Just getting strong, spotting each other, yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I remember they had a gay fella in
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: our town. He was a drug dealer. So everybody wanted drugs.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So also that's how you also kind of like met
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: gay guys, you know, or at the first time.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So it was really cool treats.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Right. It was like, dude, yeah, these guys are fucking,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: but I think it did a lot for our town.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Cause some people who may not have like, kind of like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you know, branched out more, you know, or just like
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: had more questions. Suddenly you were sitting there high as hell.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And then more gay people started kind of like.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Drugs are the great equalizer, right? Oh yeah. You can,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it crosses every boundary known. Oh yeah. God, yes.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, were the real-life pastors that you sent your gemstone
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: pastors like John Goodman and Baby Billy, do you send them? Like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: did you have them reflect on guys? Did you go watch?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Did you get some front row tickets to some Osteen?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Or what were you doing? You know what? A lot
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: of it was just like watching videos and stuff. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: then I actually kind of went around and I did it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I interviewed a few different pastors just before I told
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: them what I was making a show about. And just,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you know, for my own ideas, my own insight. And
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: people were responsive. They talked to me. You know, my aunt,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: she actually sadly passed away just a few weeks ago,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: but she was a minister. So I talked to her
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a lot about the church. Really?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: What kind of church did she minister at?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like she was in Atlanta. It wasn't a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: mega church, but it was one of those sort of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: these churches that can pop up in shopping centers and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: not look like your typical church. She kind of moved
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: into counseling after that as well. But I grew up
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: in a household that was pretty religious. My mom, she
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: did puppet ministry when I was a child. She would
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: like do the children's sermons and stuff like that. Oh, really? Yes.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And do they hide behind something to do that is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: out front?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: It's like a little– we had this like PVC pipe
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: frame with felt over it. Yeah. And they'd hide behind
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: there and my mom had like boxes of these puppets
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and she would drum up these little scripts.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And kind of– Mostly Bible characters?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, sometimes there would be, but sometimes they would
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: just be these characters and they would have to learn
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Bible lessons. That's crazy, right?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It's like suddenly Paul Revere is in one of the scenes.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. But it was– I grew up with all
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that stuff. So, yeah, this is exactly– that's the kind
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: of shit we do right there. That was it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is great, Tom. Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And the guy on the right, obviously.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's learning stuff. He's learning about the– he's– He's
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: singing a song about sinkhole baby and about how Jesus
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: raised him up out of the sinkhole, made him into
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a little raisin.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool, man. Yeah, I'm trying to think if
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: we had any puppets. No, what did we have? We
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: had a guy who was missing one finger. Puppeting is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of shoulder work. People don't think about that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Got to have a lot of upper body strength. Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: You're a fucking– that's the French bulldog.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Stay like that.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The drama region. Yeah, you're really building those shoulders. Is
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: your mom pretty proud of you? What's you guys' relationship like?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: We're good. We're strong. She moved– they lived in Virginia,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and then when we moved down to Charleston, she moved there.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: My wife's from Los Angeles. I met her out here.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: We were here for– I was here for like 20 years.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: And so when I convinced her to move to Charleston
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: with us, you know, figured it was only right. Me,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: her and the kids come down. Her mom, who's Angelina,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: she moved down there, too. So now for the first
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: time in my life, I have like I live in
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the same town as my parents. And, yeah, it's kind
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of wild. Wow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: That's so cool, dude. You like got to capture the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: whole dream. I think that's everybody's dream. I'm going to go.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I'll show them. I'll move. I'll have the girl. I'll
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: have the family, you know.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: It's been nice. Man, I always feel grateful for what
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: we get to do. But the fact that like this show,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: all the shows we've done, I've made it with all
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: my buddies that I've met in college, guys I met
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: when I was 18 years old. We're smoking weed together
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: in the dorm rooms, talking about movies and all this shit.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And now you know, 25 years later, we're all still
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: doing the same stuff. It's kind of awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder, um, yeah, I would like to get to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: meet a wife sometime soon. Where did you meet your
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: wife at a certain location?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I met her. She was like a friend of my
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: neighbor when I lived in this shitty apartment over in
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: West Hollywood. And so it was just kind of one
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of those things where You don't have any money to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: go to any of these expensive bars or clubs when
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you're in your early 20s out here. Yeah, unless you're
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the fucking Rizzler, huh? Yeah, unless you're the Rizzler. You're
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: going to Craig's, dude. Drinking two Pepsis after nine, living
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that high life.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, his grades
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: are down, but the money's up, you know? That's his
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: fucking life.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I know. I've had that, like, you know, moving, I
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: went to college in North Carolina and moved here in 99,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and man, this was a tough, this is a tough
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: city to come into from, with nothing, you know? It's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: hard living, I feel like, when you get out here
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and you're, waiting tables and PA-ing and just doing all
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: this stuff, making no money. It hurts. You can't go
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: do anything, and every girl that's your age is dating
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: someone who's 15 years older and successful. Dating Aerosmith or something.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: It's tough.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they take a girl, like, on a world tour,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and then you're like, I'm supposed to, what, take her
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: where for a walk?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: How am I even going to compete? Dude, I remember
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: on my birthday, I got out here. I'd been out
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: here for, like, a year, and I bought a used refrigerator, right?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I was saving money. When I finally went and looked
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: at the price, I was probably saving $ 60, right? Nightmare.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Had to borrow somebody's truck to go get it out
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: towards Reseda, get it back home on my birthday. I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: spent my birthday doing this. I get it over to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the door of our apartment, and it will not go in.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: It's just a little too wide. So now I have
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to take the fucking doors. I remember sitting against the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: wall crying. I was on steroids, but I was also–
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: sitting there just and dude parking spots were too small
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you'd open the you couldn't get out you'd get a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: ticket and you would ding everything about la was fucking impossible.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah and it felt too like when the city the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: city could be against you you know like parking tickets
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: stuff like that i mean it just felt like when
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: your day was bad that's always when you would come
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: out and there'd be a boot on your car and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: it would just get worse and worse and worse and
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and that's the other thing is when you're kind of
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: living on the edge like that, it feels like no
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: one gives a shit either. Like people would walk over
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you and if you were laying on the ground bleeding,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it was tough.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Did you, um, did you ever do standup too or no?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I never did stand up. No. I mean, I, I don't, I,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't really, you know, honestly, I didn't even really
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: have any ambitions to be an actor. It's like, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I went to film school to write and to make,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I always kind of imagined I would just be behind
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the camera and, uh, And that's true 100%?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: 100%, yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I didn't have any ambitions of trying
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: to be an actor at all. David Green, who was
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: another classmate of mine, he made this movie called All
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the Real Girls.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Bring it up.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful film about first love and Appalachia.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Ooh, really?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but his– He had an actor who backed out
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: of the show the last minute, and it was an
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: independent movie. And he just asked me to come down
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and play the role because he didn't have time to
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: cast somebody else. And it was the very first time
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I ever acted in anything. And after Jody saw it,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: he wanted to make a movie. And he was like, well,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you're the only person we know who's been in something.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So it's funny that we thought that was a leg up.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Just that dude right there we thought would somehow get
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: something made. Yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy that when you go from an idea
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like even with this like it was all emails and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: then we show up one day on set and there
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: was a real movie going on. Dude, I had to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: sit down for a while. I was like, oh, my God,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I thought everybody's just fucking around. Like and then it
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: was a real movie and there's like people and people
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing and people do know what they're doing.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: People are yelling and people are. but there was, it
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: was like, Oh my God, this is really it. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: then you realize it's so hard to make something really too.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Cause so many little things happen. Like we got pushed
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: by the fire for a week and it was like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: suddenly that changes everything. And you have, you don't know
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: if people are. And then we had to shoot one day,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the day with Steve little where it's like the winds
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: were 40 miles an hour. We can't afford to reshoot.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So it's like fucking pretend that the winds are 40
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: miles an hour.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: We had the same thing on Jim since you, I mean,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: that's what a lot of this stuff becomes is it
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: becomes surrounding yourself with just strategists, like people on your
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: team that just know how to solve problems, because that's
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: what a hundred percent, what all making anything is, is
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you got your idea of what it's going to be.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And then every day it's dealing with something that's coming
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: your way to make it less than what you want
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it to be. And you've got to figure out how
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: to navigate it.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: When we shot the season of gemstones, Right near the end,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: there's this pretty specific location to this season. And I
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: fought really hard to be able to get in this
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: place and shoot there. But we only had limited time
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: in the night before we had to shoot the last
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: scene of the entire series. Hurricane Helena comes through that
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: part of Carolina and just decimated everything. And this location
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: that we're at, it's like 100 mile per hour winds,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: no power. And it's like, there's no alternative. You know,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: we have to shoot this thing. You have to just
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: do it. So it's like, like, well, once these hurricane
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: force winds die down, maybe we'll try to get some
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: extension cords and finish this thing off. And that's exactly
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: what we did. It was crazy. Damn.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's just no matter what level things
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: are at, if you're doing something in your backyard and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: you and your brother plan to shoot something and then
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: halfway through, he doesn't let his attitude changes and he
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: goes in the house.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's always, and that ruins it, whatever your
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: little plan was. It's always something right. There's always something
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's going to show up. How do you know when
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: a show is done like this?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't sure with this. I mean, I've
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: been really lucky with HBO that they've always been real
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: supportive of the stuff I want to do. And they're
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: awesome partners to have in this. And man, I think
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: it kind of just came as we started writing the season.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: To me, it just felt like it. I felt like
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: when I was starting to write it, like everything I
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: was kind of gravitating towards was like about closure and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: sort of wrapping up these characters like longer stories. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: so I kind of kept myself open while we were
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: shooting like in case I got any other ideas of
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: like maybe I'd come back and do another one. But
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: as we kind of shot more and more, it just
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: felt like it was the end. It felt like it. Yeah.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. TV is one of those things
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: too where it's a strange art form because if it's good,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the reward is you just get to keep doing it
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and doing it and doing it. But sometimes that doesn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: necessarily make for the best story, you know, just to have,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you know. all right, this is like the 10th time
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: these characters have almost died. Like Lost or whatever, that show. Yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: where things can overstay their welcome. People are getting hit
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: with so many things these days. There's so many things
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: vying for your attention. It's a lot to ask an
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: audience to stick with a show for 10 years or something.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And just think that your
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: tastes in 10 years will be the same as it
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: was when the first season came out. So for me,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to stay in it longer than we
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: needed to. I never wanted to make it something where
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter. I always kind of wanted to make
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: sure it was relevant and something we were all having
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: fun doing and never kind of evolve into something that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: just feels like a job. Yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Was there something special that you like to do for
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: your crew and stuff like that? Like you talk so
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: much about like the guys that work for you and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: work with you. I'm sure you use a lot of
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the same crew and stuff too, because you develop relationships,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you know how people are going to work, you know
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: what people will be there for you on those, you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: when it's And you're like, what the fuck are we
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: going to do right now? What's something you like to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: do for them? I've heard that you do nice things
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just like to party. I mean, to me,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's one of those things. We like
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to rock and roll. But I do feel like, you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: especially living down there, when you're asking people to come
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: work on the show, you're asking them to, like, leave
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: their lives, leave the comfort of their home, sometimes leave
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: their spouse or their partner and come down there for,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you know, six months to come work with you. I've
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: been on stuff where I've been on location and it's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: sort of like, yeah, good luck, buddy. You know, you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: just going to end up, you don't know anybody. You're
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: sitting in a hotel room. It's the worst. And so
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I always just try to. At a Westin. Yeah, exactly.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I just try to avoid that. I mean, you, obviously
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: everyone's different. People want their own. Sometimes people want to
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: be left alone in the Westin, but I try to
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: just make everybody feel like they're at home when they
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: come there, like try to make them have a good time.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And ultimately it's like, you know, for me, it's the
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: whole idea that we get to make this shit is
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: so much fun. Like I don't even watch these things
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: after we're done. I don't even go back and watch
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: any of this stuff again. My experience with it is
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: like the act of making it. That's really feels like
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the climax to me. Uh, I'll, I'm in, you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I'm on, I oversee like every cut of this show
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: and in post, but yeah, once this stuff like is done,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of done with it. You know, it kind
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: of feels even the old movies from pineapple to tropic,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: it's like, I'll see them at the premiere and then
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: oftentimes we'll never even see them again. I'll see clips
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: of things online and be like, oh, that's crazy. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: remember that. But I don't know. I have a lot
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: of fun making this stuff. I like collaborating with people.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Like you were saying, those problems that come up, solving
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: that stuff, that feeling of accomplishment when you do sort
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: of dodge a bullet, like that's the excitement and the
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: fun for me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed I don't like the acting part. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: noticed I like giving somebody an idea and be like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: not telling the other actors and stuff and be like,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: try this.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then seeing what that creates. Yeah, that's the
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: beauty of it all.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had this one moment like Spade is like
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: taking this dog for a ride because the company he
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: works for, this company called Last Lap, they give dogs
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: rides like they're about to be euthanized or whatever. He
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: gives them a couple more spins around town, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: in his car.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That's nice. That's a nice thing to do.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sweet guy. So he pulls up and then it's like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Kirk Fox, you know who he is?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Kirk Fox pulls up next to him in a truck.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: And Kirk's just been like looting in the area. I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: guess sort of stoplight. And he's like, what are you guys?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You guys get anything good? He's like, yeah, we just
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: got a hot lead on JonBenet's wedding dress.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: And that came from your dome? That was out of
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: your pocket? He snuck over just like a fucking... Like
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a fucking Navy SEAL. I just put this little fucking.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I just shined that cock right in his soul. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: then I went off and hit in the distance. And
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that's what I noticed. That's the only thing I always loved.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I always liked... Even when we were a kid, like
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we would go like like not getting molested what's called
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: camping with people's dads right.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Getting molested no you were right the first thing you.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Said was right it was like Cub Scouts or whatever
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: but I remember one time we left and I told
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: everybody that Jay Leno had died right right and you
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: couldn't check back then so the whole weekend you would
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: hear the dads talking about it kind of reminiscing about
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Leno and some of their favorite guests and shit And
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I would be in my tent laying down, just crying
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: out of my fucking little penis. I was crying out
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: of laughing so fucking hard.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Man, that kind of stuff was Boy Scout camps. I
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: went to a Boy Scout camp when I was a kid.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And I remember it was like we had this– our
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: cub master was this– was one of the kids' dads.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And it was him with 12 boys and we're camping.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: And he just got over the course of the week,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: he just got stranger and stranger. And at one point
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: he just kind of like left, you know, left the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: camp for a while and had been a bit since
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: he'd been back there. And every night we would always
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: notice that he'd go into his tent and he would
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: just like lay down and put these headphones on and
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: just kind of lay there. And so I was so curious, like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: what is this motherfucker listening to? And I'm probably like
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: 12 years old. And when he was gone, I snuck
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: into his tent and I picked up his headphones and
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I put it on and hit play. They were like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: messages from his wife talking about how he was a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: good man and like it made me terrified of the
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: rub like let's just get me home this guy's sitting
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: in here just like listening to his wife pump him
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: up and with those 12 boys in the woods oh
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: my god that's so sweet of her to make all
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that i why did he need it though like that's
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: what was like it seemed like the tires were about
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: to fall off probably keeping him off the end of
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a fucking rope dude That's crazy, dude. I almost got
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: sent home from that camp, too, because I pulled a
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: knife on a kid. Not for real. No, of course not.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But I had that, you know, when you're that age
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and you have your little knives, your little Boy Scout knives,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: you're constantly playing with it. And I guess this other
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: troop walked past us, and I had pulled that knife out,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: and they thought I was, like, fucking threatening someone. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I had to go into the office and explain myself,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you know, and I got my knife taken away for
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the rest of the week. Yeah, dude.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: There was something I remember, like– when I was a kid,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: we used to, well, we'd get, one thing we'd do
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: for fun, I remember the mosquito truck would come by
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and we'd get on our bikes and fucking ride behind
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it and just huff the gas.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Just get high.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Bro, we would be fucking cooked, dude. Just like, unbelievable.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: A trail of dead mosquitoes around, everybody's singing. Bro, dude, yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Dude, bro, if I went near a bird, it would
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: die after that. anything, anything that could fucking hit the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: airwaves was dead. I couldn't even pick up AM radio, bro.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, Anything that could fly, that was something fun,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I remember. I remember being in the woods, and somebody
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: would say, like, I saw something. And then you would run.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: The fear that went, you didn't see anything. Somebody did,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and they started to leave, and suddenly you were alone.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Even if you were one step alone in the woods
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: from your friend, it was like, it's going to get me.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: The unknown. It was the best. I grew up in Virginia,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: and it was a neighborhood that was brand new. It
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: was in the 80s. And like, so it was all
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: woods and stuff and all construction. It was all like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: they were just building one of those big subdivisions. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: we were like one of the first houses in there.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: And so me and my friends would just have like
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: the run of that place. I mean, we were constantly
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: doing that, but there was like this one construction site
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and we were young. This is probably like fourth or
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: fifth grade. We would just like go there at nighttime
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: and just like take all their lumber and their shit
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: and go make ramps and go build tree houses and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: There was this one house that we kept doing it
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: to and there was a construction site. We built like
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: a tree fort with all the wood. And I guess
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the guys who were building the house found out where
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: it was at. And we came out to our tree
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: fort and they had like ripped everything down. They had
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: like taken it all down. So then that next day,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: we went to that place, and we fucking destroyed that house.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: We took cinder blocks and threw it through the walls.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: We were like these fourth graders thinking we're just going
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: to show these guys what's up. Wow.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: There's some family that has to stay at home.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I know. Just no sense. But it was like we
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: took it personal. Like, we stole that lumber fair and square.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: These motherfuckers. They're going to fuck me up. On our
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Diamondback freestyle bikes, our BMX bikes, just thinking we ran
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that shit.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm trying to. Oh, we had a glitter, I
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was a glitter truck. I think
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: it was a glitter truck that toppled over like in
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the interstate near us. And it was like, and it
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: was like kind of, I guess a windy time of year.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: And our fucking town had glitter in the area for
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: two years.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: In your lungs, everywhere.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't even, you just think you'd meet
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: somebody and half of them would have fucking.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: They're shining. It's crazy, dude.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Those are good days. It is crazy how if you
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: have a construction site, if you're building a house, if
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: any kids in the neighborhood, all they do is get
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: in there and break shit.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: They have no concept of like someone's paid money for this.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Someone's waiting to move their family in. It just is
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: looked at as like this doesn't matter. No one lives here,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: so we can do what we want.
• 54:15
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  Speaker 1: that's the stuff that I think sometimes about getting older.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Do you ever start to think like that
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you only get to do so many things? Does that
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: start to become a thing in your head at all?
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been, you know, so proclivative or whatever
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: it's called, but.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Prophylactics.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Prophylactics, yeah. You've been so prophylactic, you know? And, but
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: do you ever start to think about that? Like, shit,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, or is it kind of like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I know I've had a good amount of time to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: make what I've wanted. I, you know, I sense it
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: with my kids, you know, when I was living out
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, like we lived up off of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Mulholland and my son was like, you know, He was
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like in kindergarten.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: He's starting to like– he's like, I want to learn
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: to ride a bike. And I'm like, why? You're never
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: going to be able to like ride a bike up
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: here on Mulholland. And I started seeing that. I'm like, oh,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: he's not going to have the same experiences I had,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: that level of freedom of just kind of like coming
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: home from school, dropping your book bag off and just
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: like taking off until the sun went down. Yeah. that
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: stuff is important. You know, that little bit of independence,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I kind of kept feeling like every time he got
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: to play with somebody, there was always like me and
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: my wife happened to like orchestrate it and sit there
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: in the background, watching them play. And, you know, and I,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: that was kind of honestly like the main reason why
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to move back to the South is I
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: was kind of wanting to go somewhere where he could, uh,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: you know, unleash, he could get on a bike and
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of freedom and kind of have that,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it feels like you can always move to
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the big city. but it's definitely harder if you're a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: city boy to kind of like go back, you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: go somewhere small. So I kind of wanted them to
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of that, of that sort of life,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: a little taste of that, you know, and, uh, you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: because like you said, it goes by quick, you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it's pretty soon, you know, you can't just go destroy
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: a construction site without ended up in prison. You know,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I wanted him to be able to go destroy some
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: construction sites and just get a slap on the wrist. Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Some dry.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I want him to fucking beat up some drywall. Um, Yeah,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville a few years ago, and I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like it over there. I just live in, like, a
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: regular neighborhood. My neighbors are just, like, soccer coach. It's, like,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: just neat, you know? I like it. It's more peaceful.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: It feels just like a very small city.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nashville's fun. I like it down there. I think
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: it's cool.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: It's fun over there, definitely. And, yeah, it's, like, Chattanooga's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: fucking great. You been there?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I haven't been there. God, dude. It's fun, huh?
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just, like, there's, like, Mountains, whitewater rafting. It's almost
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: everything you wish was in Nashville that isn't.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: And it's smaller, feels good.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got to go over there. I'd never even
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: been to Nashville until we moved to Charleston. I think
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: my wife and I were just like looking for what
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: was a quick trip away. And Nashville is so close
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: that we saw it. But I think it's fun down there.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: So Chattanooga, though, I got to check that out.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Chattanooga is beautiful, man. Look at that. They have this
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: beautiful walking bridge where you walk across. It's like it
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: used to be a bridge, but they shut it down
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever because it couldn't bridge anymore or whatever. So
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: basically it's just like a.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: It stopped bridging?
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like a brave road really at that point.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: But they turned it into a walking bridge. And so
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: they built like a newer one next to it. But it's, yeah,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: but just the whole area is awesome, man.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: They have a place called Lookout Mountain there. We can
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: see like seven states or something from it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of Civil War shit if you're big into
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Civil War reenactments and shit. Like my buddy's dad used
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: to referee those and shit. So we'd go watch those
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: a lot and like. So I love that kind of shit.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I love a fucking cannon, dude.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I love civil war stuff too. I grew up in,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: you know, after we left California, we, I grew up,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I spent most of my time in Fredericksburg, Virginia. And
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: so there's a ton of civil war stuff there. And,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: you know, my backyard, I'd find like civil war bullets
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: and stuff. I mean, we were, we were all, you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it was that stuff loomed heavily over our, my childhood
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: just because it was so close. I mean, I even
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: have a buddy that his old man would, uh, put
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: on night vision goggles and, uh, go out to the, uh,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: the national park battlefields and go metal detecting. Cause you know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: that's a federal crime. You're not allowed to go do that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: And he, uh, he would go out there and just
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: like outrun those park Rangers and just get bullets and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: bayonets and like all this stuff. We'd always like play
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: around with all that stuff in his garage. It's kind
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: of amazing.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: He's writing his dad in prison. Dear, dear dad. Thanks
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: for the rusty bayonet. That shit was a big part
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: of growing up in this house. Somebody like, dude, they
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: found arrowheads on our property. rusty shit. They found a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: fucking canteen from 70 years ago. That was a huge
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: thing about growing up in the South.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: It is my buddy, uh, who's who still lives back there.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I went to go visit him, uh, a few years
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: ago and, uh, we were supposed to catch up in Virginia.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to catch up downtown for a few beers.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: And he, and he's like, Hey man, come back behind
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: the high school here. Like, uh, I want to show
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: you something. Uh, here we go. But, uh, I went
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: back behind the school and we've kind of like walked
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: down to the woods and, And we come down there
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: and he's found this place that he's like completely like
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: roped off like it was an archaeological dig site. And
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is going on back here?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: And he's like, man, I think I found like an
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: old Indian camp here. And he started showing me all
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: this shit that he had found. It was like weird
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: like pottery and arrowheads and all this stuff. And it
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: was amazing. He found it on his own. And he
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, man, if you– there's so much
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: of that stuff here that basically if you just like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: look for some place that had like access to water
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and had a lot of sunlight during the course of
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: the day, that nine times out of ten, somebody would
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: have saw that as a place to set up camp.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: And then you start digging around and it's all under there.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And like, man, it was cool. But it made me
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: start looking at it everywhere a little differently. It was cool.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. They had a guy who hid a treasure.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Do you see that? He hid treasure for like 10 years.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Somebody finally found it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: He had a couple million dollar treasure, and it finally
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: got found a few years ago. He made like a treasure,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: like a story about it.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, gotcha. So he had like a little like put
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: a call out.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Scavenger hunt. And people looked for it for years. A
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: couple people died looking for it.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's sick.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: God, I used to always want to look for bodies
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: on the side of the interstate. That's my big thing.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, you were just trying to make a sequel to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Stand By Me? Just trying to find it? I guess. Browers, Flowers,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: whatever the fuck his name was.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Stand By I-65 is what it's going to be called.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's something that I always wanted to do.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your kids before you leave.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: What's something that you admire about your children if you're
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: okay talking about your children?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I just– Because it's cool for you to
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: leave for the– you know, one of the reasons you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: wanted to leave, that was for them. It's kind of neat. Like,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: you know, to be able to make– do choices like that,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: like with social media, just like to make kind of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: like choices that are for the betterment of yourself or
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: others is pretty– it's harder to do these days than
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I think people think. So it's something that– it seems
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: pretty neat that you're able to do. But yeah, go on.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know– like I said, my wife is from
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles. She grew up here. So she had never
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: really lived outside of California. And I liked LA. I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: liked living here. I had a blast, but yeah, once
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I had kids, I, it wasn't like I thought they
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: would have like a terrible childhood growing up here, but
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: I just knew that there were going to be certain
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: things that they wouldn't be exposed to that I just
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: thought would be useful for them to be exposed to.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: And my wife and I, we headed down to Charleston
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: for a long weekend to kind of like, just take
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: a look at it without the kids and just sort
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: of like, could we do this? Like, could we make
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: a run at this? What are we going to do?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: And we had looked at some houses and then we
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: were kind of sitting in this bar, just having a drink,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: kind of like writing down on a napkin, like the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: pluses and minuses, like how realistic it would be. And
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I remember looking out the window and there was like
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: a group of probably, you know, 10 kids, like probably
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: between the ages of like seven and 15 on skateboards
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: and bikes and jean shorts, no shirts, carrying fishing poles,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: not a parent in sight. And I was like, yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: we got to move here. Like, this is like exactly
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: what I want our kids to be able to do
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: is just that I want them to be able to like,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: be free to kind of like explore the world and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: to see things without having to worry about them so much. And, uh,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: so that was cool. And I mean, my kids are just,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. My daughter is like insanely funny. She's like,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: she's 10 years old and she is, I mean, like,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, like before she even talked, she was
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: giving people the bird, flicking people off. Like I, I,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: I challenge, I channel her, in that character, Judy, the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: sister and, uh, in Righteous Gemstones. You do? I do.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I channel my daughter in that, in that a lot
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: of times. Dude, I got to interview that lady one time.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: She's the most talented. She's the best. Edie's amazing.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's so funny that you would channel even a,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: like a child.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Yes. Uh, and Edie, uh, and my daughter have a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: very special relationship. Edie calls it that they're in the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: bad girls club. And so, uh, every time Edie talks
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: to my daughter, she'll be like bad girls club and being,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: we'll give her a high five. But, uh, Yeah, my
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: daughter came by the set this year and there was
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: a dead body on the set, not a real one.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: And there was like fake blood and she was like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: kind of obsessed with like, what is this? There's fake blood? Like,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: what is that? And I started realizing, oh, man, she
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any concept of what this is or what
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I do when I leave. And she kind of got
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: really obsessed with this idea of fake blood. And our
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: props master gave her this big tub of, like, you know,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: fake movie blood.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: And she uses it all the time. Really? She'll call
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: us in and she'll be, like, laying in the shower with, like,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: blood coming out of her belly button and out of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: her neck and pretending to be she's a sicko.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like things are going good over there. Dude,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: my brother, so my dad was like real old when
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I was born.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: My dad was 70.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: He was an older man, you know? And so my
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: brother used to do this thing. I've talked about it
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: before on my comedy show, but he'd be like, dad's dead.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: He'd come in the room, right?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: That was his bit?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: His dad was like, you know, dad would be 79.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Dad's dead. He'd come in. I'd be doing something. He'd
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: be like, dad's dead. And I was like, you know,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the first time I was like, no, no, don't, you know?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: And I'd go in there and he would be alive, right?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: And then it got to– this is where I knew–
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: this is when something I think got weird maybe in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: my head because I would be like, he better fucking
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: be dead or I'm going to beat your ass, right?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: It became like just the whole juxtaposition of that little
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: thing in my head. Like if I'm going to get
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: up now.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I better see a dead body. I'm going to be
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: pissed off. Yeah, that bastard. And then look, you got
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: older and you did that to other people by telling
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: people Jay Leno was dead.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: You– You helped spread that trauma. Yeah, dude.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff. I just, yeah, there
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: was something so much fun about being young. And Michael
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Landon was supposed to come to our town one time
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: and meet people at the fair, and my mom got
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: all dressed up and went, and he didn't come.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a bummer. That was a heartbreaker. Is that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: why you have that Michael Landon cutout there?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to have that. I'm a big Highway
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: to Heaven fan. I'm a big Victor French fan. You
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: kind of look like a young Victor French, actually.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I'll take that. I loved Highway to Heaven. God. That
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: was good. It was so good. I wouldn't have pegged
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: you for a Highway to Heaven fan. That's good to know.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, we grew up on that, TBS, the Olsens.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, look at him. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he's a
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: good dude. Look at that.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very you.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I think we could do that. I could see you
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: being Michael Land. I think we could. Let's redo Highway
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: to Heaven. That's the next thing. Let's do it, dude.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: We'll call it Highway to Hell. How about that?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. It'll be just one off round.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just meet people and ruin their lives. That's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: what we do.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the movie Family Man. Have you
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: seen that movie?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Which one is that?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: With Nicolas Cage. It's a Christmas movie.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's been a long time. But, yes,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I remember that film.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I love that movie, dude. That's one of my favorites.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: The first movie I ever saw, I think, was, yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: that's it right there. Did you ever get to work
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: with Nicolas Cage?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: I haven't, but I'm such a fan of his, man.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: He's so awesome.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems so interesting.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that little turn he had in Long Legs
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: last year, I mean, how scary is that? Dark arts.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Dark arts, yes. Satan shit.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I think we need more of it. You
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: That's definitely what I think. When I look at the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: state of the world, I feel like what the world
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: needs now is more devil. Party, dude.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Let's amp this bitch up. Was there ever something weird,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: like once you started making some money, because making money
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: is an interesting thing, right? Like some people really get
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: into it and that's their thing, but it's like, were
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: there ever like a team that you wanted to invest
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: in or some interesting thing that like, you know, that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: somebody might consider? Was there anything like that for you?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Man, I don't think I have ever, I mean, I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: think growing up without any money, it's like the moment
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: you get your hands on some, you just try to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: suck it away because you're thinking they're coming to take
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: it at any moment. Oh yeah. So I haven't, I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: need to start being a little bit more ambitious with
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: my spending though. And, uh, and just relax a little
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: bit probably. Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: That time I'm just scared. It's like, Well, what if, yeah,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: just scary. And then also, what do I really want?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I think I want to start like a halfway house,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: but that makes clothing too, dude.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Put those fuckers to work.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Be like, this shirt's dope. That's kind of a dumb joke,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: but thank you for laughing at that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. It is dope.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks, dude. Yeah, what was something else that I was
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: thinking about? Because I'll never see you again, but I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: was just trying to think of what it is.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: You don't think we'll ever see each other again? Is
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: this it?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: No, it would be awesome if we did.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like we might.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Do you get impressed by a lot of the, um,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: stuff that you see out there? Like, do you get inspired?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Like you'll see a movie, you'll see something like it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: makes you want to keep making more. Do you think
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you'll take a little bit of a break? What do
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: you kind of think? Or you already have something you're
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: making next?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: No, I think I'm going to take a little bit
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: of a break. I mean, I, like I said earlier,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: like my hobby is basically writing and creating, you know,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: so I'm sure I won't stop that. But, uh, you know,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: it takes a lot to make something like this gemstones.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I've been on this now for, you know, seven years
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: of working on this thing full time. And, uh, You know,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to just chilling out for a little
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: bit and spending time with the fam. But as soon
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: as you start doing that, then you'll get an idea
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: for something else. And so I feel like I'll always
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: want to make stuff. But it's also good to just
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: enjoy your life a little bit too and not be
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: so worried all the time about what's going to be
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: next and just kind of take it easy.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get definitely caught up. Like I have to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: do this or this. But then sometimes I do start
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to notice a little bit more like I want to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: chill out because I want to give my brain time
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: to think so it's fun for me.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it can heal. Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: That used to be the most fun doing your brain
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: gives you an idea and it just makes you laugh.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: You're by yourself or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: And then you got to share it.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Um, what about your son? You said about your daughter,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: what about your son?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: My son, he's just gotten into lacrosse, you know, Tony Cavalero,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: actually he's, uh, he's helped us out. He's a Tony
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Cavalero is a big deal in the lacrosse world. I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: don't know if you knew this.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that at all. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: He's a big deal. And, uh, my son, uh, has
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: shown an interest in it. So Tony is like kind
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: of pushed us in the right direction of getting him
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: into a cool team and, That lacrosse shit is pretty cool, man.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I've been with him through all his different interests in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: sports from baseball to football. And, you know, you go
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: on to those little parks and rec teams and it's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: always just some kid's dad coaching, you know. The lacrosse shit, though,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: is like the coaches are young. They're like athletes right
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: out of college. I feel like the kids just respond
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: to them in a different way than they do somebody's dad.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: You know, it's cool. It's good to watch. Huh.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. I've never heard anybody even talk about that,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: except for this girl Mubi that works with Barstool Sports.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: She played lacrosse. So I would see her. Oh, one
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: of my friends from New York would talk about it sometimes. Yeah,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it at all. And then
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm like, this shit is hardcore.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, they like knock each other down on the ground,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: hit each other with these sticks and I was surprised
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: my son was even into it. I saw him getting
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: out there swacking people. I'm like, oh, damn, here we go.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: What does he admire about it, you think?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I think that the stick is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. But, you know, you got those pads. The
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: gear is pretty awesome. But, I mean, it is a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: pretty rough and tumble sport. Is there ever moments– And
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: you can. Like that. You just knock the shit out
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: of people and knock them on the ground. And you
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: see kids doing that. You see them doing it. And
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you're allowed to do that. They don't
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: stop it or anything. That's like part of the game.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: It's kind of pretty badass. Boom. Look at that. I've
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: seen a 10-year-old do that to another 10-year-old. God, that's beautiful.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: God, you've got to stop and drink that. Is it
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: interesting whenever you see your kid, like say you take
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: him to lacrosse and he likes it, is it interesting
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: that you learn something about him by watching him start
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: to like something?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, you start trying to think. I mean parents
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: are probably– the worst thing you can do is kind
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: of like– always push your kids into what you're into
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: and expect that, you know, you using their childhood as
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: a way to kind of like work out all your demons.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, uh, I try not to do that with
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: my kids. Like, I don't even think my kids even
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: like movies, you know, it's like, I've tried to like
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: have movie nights with them and stuff. And they're like, yeah,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: we're good. They don't, they don't, you're like, you're part
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: of that dying art form. I got no interest. I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: want to watch Mr. Beast. I want to watch them
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: be squid games.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that shit is pretty good.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Some of it is good. He, they, uh, I like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: all that shit that they watch. I think it's fun.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: There's that one kid. I think his name is Ryan
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Trainor or something. He does like the stuff where he
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: has like 10 cents and he tries to like make
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: money to get across the country. I haven't seen him.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Pull him up, Ryan Trainor. I think that's his name.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: But I like this stuff, dude. I like watching. I'm like,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: no wonder y'all aren't watching movies, man. You guys have
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: this all dialed in. Yeah, he'll like start with like
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: a penny and like figure out a way to get
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: across the country with just starting with that.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, Ryan Trahan.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Trahan, that's what it is.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this. And it's crazy. So
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: this video has 60 million views, right? It's crazy how
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: much is out there that you've never even heard of,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: and you'll be exposed. You'll be like, oh, this is amazing.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Wow. I'd like to meet this kid. There's these kids,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Colby and Sam, that are like these ghost hunter kids
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I want to get to meet. I was never brave
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: enough to vlog. We just had some streamers in, and
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: that lifestyle is insane, man. Eight hours in a row.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: It's wild, huh?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Think about that, eight hours, right? And you have to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: be yourself so you can't really hide who you are
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: at all. And then you have to go home and
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: then come back.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: And do it all over again. I know. It takes
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: a different type of brain to do that. That's what
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: they like, though, I think. I mean, he watches kids
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: play video games. And I try to get my head
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: around that. I'm like, but you know what? I do
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: remember being a kid, like, over at your friend's house,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: sitting around the couch, watching somebody try to beat a game.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And the shit was fun, you know? Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I guess they're just not
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: doing it maybe together as much, but maybe they are.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: This could be a phase in time. I mean, we
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: would go play at the church parking lot, dude. Anybody
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: that would answer the door on the way down the street,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: it was three or four blocks to get down there.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: If you answered the fucking door, you were playing defense, right?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: So we would knock on the doors about 3.40 in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: the afternoon, walk down there, and there was a hole. Somebody,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know who put it out there, like the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: devil or whatever, but in the field, they had a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: field in front of the church. off of Highway 190
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: over there in Covington. And sometimes, every two years, somebody
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: would step into the hole and break their leg or ankle.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Perfect. That's what it was there for.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: That's it, dude. That's a fucking free safety, bitch. That's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: what that is. That would talk you crazy, though. But yeah,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: if you answered the door, you had to come play, man.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: And we would get on our bikes and we would ride.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: They had like A ride probably about a mile and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: a half over to this place called Pat's Shrimp and Video, right?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: You get a bag of shrimp, right? It wasn't all
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: you could eat, but it was like all they could
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: put in the bag. And you would get to rent
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: a movie, dude.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I love that. God, dude. Terminator we get. I miss
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: the video store, don't you? I miss that stuff. That
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: was fun.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: There was nothing. Dude, I went to the last Blockbuster
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: in Oregon probably two years ago. And these are the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: things I found fascinating about it.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: For one.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: you're not just stuck with what the platform, like the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: app or whatever we look on it now, Netflix, et cetera, um,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: is putting in front of you, like those 10 or
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: 12 movies at a time, you get to kind of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: consciously wander and you're like, Oh, I forgot about this movie.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Right. Oh, what? No way.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: He was in that. They did a movie together. You
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: see all of these fronts of movies. You'll, you'll see
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: 300 of them while you're in there. And you'd be like,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: drama I'll do with that. You know, like, um, different ones.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Like diabetes is a section, you know, some of the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: sections have gotten a little bit more casual than before.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Pretty specific. Yeah. I'm going to get me a good
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: diabetes movie this weekend. This is what I want to watch. Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I want to see, I want to see these lactose
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: intolerant films, whatever. But, um, but it was totally, it's
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: a totally different experience. There was, it's in Bend, Oregon,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: which is a great place. If you, Only about four,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: five nice months out of the year at all, though,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. A lot of bad stuff.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: That's why they got that blockbuster still in business, man.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: They needed it.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: But your brain would be like, oh, what do you–
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and you talk with your friend. What do you think
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: about this? You kind of discuss it. It just like–
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: it was much more– it was so much different than, oh,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to pick one off of here. It
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: didn't even feel the same.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I think movies needed it. I do. I think that
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: like when you have access to all of it, it
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: makes all of it not that special. And I think, weirdly,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: there was something about, like, if you went to the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: video store and you wanted to see a movie and
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: it wasn't in, it made you instantly think that that
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: movie was a bigger deal than anything. And then, like,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: when you finally got it, you would have all this
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: other stuff invested in, like, you know, wow, I'm so lucky.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: I got Under Siege. It's here. It's in my house.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Steven Seagal, was he in that?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: He was, yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, dude.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Van Damme, when I was growing up, that shit was bloodsport.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that that's a genre that doesn't really exist.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: You're just like, are there no 20-year-olds who know martial
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: arts that are good looking, that can just whip ass
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: and be action heroes? What is going on? People don't
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: want to see that anymore?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. Yeah, that kind of stuff doesn't exist.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I just watched Interstellar the other day. That was cool.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that genre doesn't exist, man. Garbage Pail Kids cards,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: we'd ride and get those bitches.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that stuff was good. That's good living.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, you'd get your ass beat.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: You just sit there watching Highway to Heaven. That's us, dude.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: We got this.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. Yeah, dude.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that. Yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: I look like I've obviously done some cocaine. And you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, that looks like me, unfortunately. Yeah, that
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: looks like you.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: That looks like me after I've watched some of them
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: diabetes films. Got a little too deep into it.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: You'll be the Wilford Brimley, dude.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Dude, my dad bought this car off like some kind
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: of blackish, you know, kind of black guys that lived
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: by us. And it was like some guys that were
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: in the culture with the big speakers in the car.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: And at that time, it was white and black guys
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: that had the speakers in the trunk but he bought
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: a cutlass off of him and he would listen to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: like paul harvey and shit like in his car and
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: it would just blast this bass for.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: No reason paul harvey yeah that's how i was in
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: my high school too it's like all the you could
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: count that any kid who had like the shittiest car
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: would have just Straight up stadium speakers in the back.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Every screw rattling in the car. Fucking unreal, dude. That
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: was so much fun, man. Being alive has been fun, huh? Yeah,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: not too bad. We'll see. It's been an adventure. Do
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: you like parenting? Is it something you really enjoy doing?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Was that something that you found surprising about parenting? And
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: then we'll get you out of here.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, man, you know, I do like it. I think
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: it's fun. You know, what's fun about it, man, is like,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: you know, I try to stay in pretty involved in
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: my kids' lives. Like I don't want to, uh, I
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: know it goes by quick and I don't want to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: like miss it all and then have all these regrets,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: you know, when my kids don't want to talk to
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: me when they're all grown. I take, try to take
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: my kids to school every morning. Uh, but I, you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: know what, it was fun as they got into school,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: like going back, like walking in for a parent teacher
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: conference and Having to sit in those little chairs and
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: talk to the teacher and be like, I forgot all
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: about this shit. And you just remember all these feelings
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: and emotions of what comes around with the first day
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: of school. And I don't know. And then just seeing
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: childhood from this side of it. And you kind of
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: also realize how short it is. When I was a kid,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I thought my parents' whole existence started when I began.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: And that was their whole life. And then you kind
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: of realize, man, that time period was just a blink
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: in the eye for them. And it's the same. I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: feel like it goes by so quick. My son's like 13.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: He's going to be in eighth grade. And I already
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: find myself just getting like sappy and sad, just like,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: it's been a good run. I've really enjoyed raising you.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess once they hit, like, yeah.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: They don't need you as much. I mean, already now
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: it's like we, at nighttime, you know, we'll all sit
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: down to hang and he'll be upstairs on the game
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: or talk with his friends. You kind of, it happens quick.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Damn. Does it hurt a little bit? You can't really
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: express that to them because that's kind of weird, huh?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does hurt a little bit, but you also,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: it's good. You know, you want them to be independent.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: You don't want them just sitting there trying to suck
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: off the teat, you know, for too long. You need
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: them to kind of get out there and want to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: spread those wings. Yeah.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted to pull off like a heist
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: or something? That's my last question for you.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Who hasn't, man? Rob somebody?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about a corporation. I'm talking about
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: just some sucker walking down the street with a nice
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: watch on. Yeah.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: If you were to do a bank robbery, you had
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: to go in there with a couple of guys. Who
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: do you bring in there with you, Danny?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think after this wonderful conversation, I feel like
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: you'd be game. I'd bring you in. I'd bring Tony
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Cavallaro in. Maybe you guys could confuse people by them
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: not knowing who's who. That could be a good distraction.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: I'd take the whole gang of righteous gemstones in there, man.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Even John Goodman, he can throw down. I think we
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: could take anybody. We'd take all that money.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Well, he beat all that fat he had.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He beat the shit out of that.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: He sure did. And John is such a massive dude.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: He's so tall.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: He really?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in a towering presence.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Well, he was a spad. There was a rumor that
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: he had lived in.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Bogalusa, Louisiana.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: So he was always like one of these like rumored
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: people that lived in the distance, you know. So there
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: was always a strong love for John Goodman from Louisiana area.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a really– I grew up always loving him, always.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: And it was insane to be able to get to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: work with him on this show. It'll be one of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: the things I'll miss the most about making this show
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: was getting to see him every season. Really? Yeah, he
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: was great. Awesome.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: What makes him so great? I mean, obviously he's a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: generational talent. He's been a father to half of America
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: over time.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: He just– I mean, you look at him, it's like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: he was– making TV shows when TV wasn't cool and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: he would still be able to go pop in and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: work with the Coen brothers. And, you know, he just
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: was doing his own thing and been doing it for
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: this long and always funny, always good. I mean, he
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: never shows up in something and it's not impressive. And, uh, yeah,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: it's funny. Like even being an actor and looking around,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: you look at it and you're like, most people have
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: maybe a handful of years in them, you know, like
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: you look at people and you really do. Like I would,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: I would think about actors that, I saw in movies
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid and you'd kind of be like,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: oh man, what happened to that person? You know, like,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: and then you'd kind of look at their filmography and
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh man, most people only have a span
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: of a few years, maybe even a decade. And then
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: they kind of disappear. Good point.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Just like with your favorite sports players.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then, but you look at a guy like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Goodman and how long he's been working and you realize
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: like that's no easy feat and that he stays relevant
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: and he stays good and the stuff he chooses is
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: cool and the roles he plays are cool. It's, you know,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: it's admirable.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Carol O'Connor is buried not far from my
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: apartment in Westwood.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: And I'll take people over there a lot of times
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: if they're visiting in town or whatever. And he's definitely
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: one of my favorites because of In the Heat of
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: the Night.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: God, that show was so good.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like your TV picks, dude. You're an In
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: the Heat of the Night guy in Highway to Heaven.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just love– I love like kind of southern
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: kind of– I just– yeah, I love those things, man.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Those are some of my favorites for sure.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: But what was I going to– who was I– oh,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Carol O'Connor. Who else is buried there?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe. Boom.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Same cemetery.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: In the same coffin I hear. Yeah.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I heard she's working nights. They doubled them up. Errol Flynn.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep advertising this place. Errol Flynn. Oh,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner is buried there also. Walter Matthau.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Wow. So anyway– So which cemetery is this? Is that
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Forever Cemetery?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: No, it's in fucking Westwood, dude. You wouldn't even know it.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: It's behind a building. You're like, what the fuck? It's, like,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: behind a neck-tail building. There's no other, like, blocks of
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: grass anywhere near it. It's just, like, big buildings, tall,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: huge buildings, and then there's this one little bitty... It's a.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: It's fucking.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: 40 square yards.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's that.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Got some kings in that bitch. A lot of Persians
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: in there, too. A lot of names you can't really pronounce,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: but that's it right there, dude. Walter Matthaus in that bitch, dude.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: That's what's so crazy about L.A. is I feel like L.A.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: has done a really shitty job of maintaining the history
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: of this place. I feel like every time I tried
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: to rent an apartment back in the day, everyone would
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: tell you, like, oh, Charlie Chaplin lived down the street.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Charlie Chaplin was here. But you realize this shit is–
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: These people mean something to people and the idea that
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: like so much gets built and torn down. Like I
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: feel like you look at Hollywood Boulevard and you're like, man,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: this should just be like colonial Williamsburg. This should be
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: some shit where you just walk in and it looks
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: exactly like it used to back in the day. That's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: a great point. It's like this is such a unique–
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: there's such a unique history to this place that it's
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: kind of sad that all you can do is– go
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: to a little cemetery to go see these things. It'd
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: be kind of cool if you could walk in the
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: same bars and restaurants they did.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Or go by their apartment. If you got to go
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: by the apartment that Walter Matthau lived in.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would mean something to people. It
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: really would.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. I never thought about that. Yeah,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: because you'll go like, well, we'll preserve some places. Like
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Charleston preserves their history. I like a lot of like,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Hollywood just kind of, Hollywood's never had much
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: of a memory kind of, I feel like it just- Well,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: The thing, I think in the day everyone's just trying
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: to survive, but now when you kind of look back
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: at what Hollywood is, you're like, wow, there's some pretty
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: influential things and people that have been around here and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: some of these places that people take for granted are,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: they have like cultural and historical significance. Fuck. You're right, Danny.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Take that. Take that.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Season four of Righteous Gemstones, Adam Devine's coming in too
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: to talk to us.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: He's just going to sit here and lie his ass off.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: That's all he does.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he also, he complains that he like, He said
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: he was getting that shin thing where he gets elongated
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: He's made up a lot of stuff.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: He's a good– he's a sweet man. I really– he'll
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: be like another one that I'll miss seeing him every year.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: He's so awesome.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird when a set ends, when the shoot ends.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: It's just like– it's like the last day of school.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Everybody's saying goodbye to everybody. You're getting all these photos,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: and then the next day or two, you're just sitting.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's like back to normal. It's all– yeah, but
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: hopefully– I get to keep in touch with a lot
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: of these people.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Walton Goggins and Edie Patterson. You know, I met them
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: on Vice Principals, and both of them are like two
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: of my closest friends. Oh, really? Yeah, so hopefully I'll
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: get to keep in touch with these people. We played
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: a family. Maybe we need to act like one. Yeah.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I like that challenge.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Danny, everybody, thanks so much for all the entertainment, dude,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: all the inspiration. And, yeah, I just really appreciate your time, man.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I hope you continue to make fun stuff. I'm sure
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you will. And congrats on getting to spend time with
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: your kids.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I hope you put that dick laser
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: to good use, okay?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: Don't you fucking worry. Don't you fucking worry. I'm putting
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: this on some fucking bitches back at the UFC fight
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: this weekend. Thank you so much, man.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: You bet.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks for this gift. Yeah, very nice. You're going to
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: use it. I can already tell. Now I'm just floating
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: found I can feel it in my bones