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ACC Betting Preview Part 1 | Top Teams, Sleepers & Odds · Targeting Winners: A College Football Betting Podcast

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Hello everybody welcome to Targeting winners.
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This is the ACC preview for 2026 where it just means more.
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I'm here as always with Darren and Peter.
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Darren, how you doing? I'm.
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Good man, it's been listening to us all cough before we started
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recording so this should be. Yeah, I think I gave you guys my
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sickness from all the way down in Florida, so.
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Somehow you did it. It.
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It's strange how that happens 'cause I'm sick now, but it
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happens at work all the time and I work remote.
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Like somebody will be sick and like 2 weeks later somebody else
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is sick somehow through the computer.
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I don't know. But anyways, thanks Tim, I
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appreciate it. Well, if you're sick, it's
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obviously Miranda's fault, so. I blame her for everything.
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We'll blame her totally, perfectly quaffed Pete Howard.
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New haircut, looking fresh, new cough, new background.
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Absolute new computer, new everything.
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Eddie, our resident interior decorator, will be happy.
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Now you've got something behind you, so I'm coming in from the
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bunker. We're talking about the ACC.
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But first we had some breaking news over the last week or so.
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Darren, I want you to break us into it.
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Brendan Sorsby. I don't know if you ever
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listened to the show, probably. Not you think he was listening.
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He was probably listening to us. Probably not, yeah.
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So as as luck and bad timing would have it, Pete and I just
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finished doing Part 2 of the Big 12 preview where Texas Tech was
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one of the teams we covered. And then a mere days later, all
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this comes out. Thousands and thousands of bets,
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potentially thousands and thousands of dollars.
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NCAA is investigating, so who knows when that'll ends.
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But I mean, I'm just going to ask you guys for your opinion.
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Are you doing anything different with Texas Tech?
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I mean, I know Tim, you fired on something a while back on the
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national championship show and. Yeah, I'm really happy about
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that. Do you think he's playing again?
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I don't think he is, man. I think the NCAA has got to set
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an example here. Well, a lot of this came out
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when I was, you know, on heavy doses of Nyquil, but I remember
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someone talking about so as we being available for the
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supplemental draft. And I was like, wait, what?
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What? Wait, what's going on?
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And so it was one of those things and yeah, well, it'd be
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nice if he did play. I don't think he's going to.
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Yeah, he's going. To play, he's going to play in
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the NFL maybe, and he's going to get what's coming to him because
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it looks like Cleveland might suck him up.
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So that's a great place for him to go and pay the price.
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Pay the ultimate place price. Go to Cleveland, right?
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Go to Cleveland. Exactly.
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My bigger concern is this the tip of the iceberg, right?
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How much of A how much of a problem is this in college
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football? Or this is one guy, but I doubt
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he's the only guy, right? So what is this going to turn
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into? What kind of investigation is
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going to happen? Who else is going to get kind of
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pulled out of this as well? I mean, were they all using the
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same? How was he betting?
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I mean, probably through an app. They're not using bookies
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anymore. But maybe I don't know.
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So it'll be interesting to see what comes out of this.
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Probably through a friend. I'd imagine there's a lot of
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love. Yeah, I know in the NFL, like if
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you even bet on a team, like they can track your phone, like
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inside the the facility. So they probably go to a friend
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to a friend or something and say, OK, I'll give you this, you
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bet on this or whatever. Yeah.
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It's a mess. Yeah.
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It's concerned. It's what?
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It's what you know, you know, Vegas and others.
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Well, I mean, that's what the concern was all along, right?
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With some with sports and such as if this infiltrates too
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deeply into these sports, what happens, right.
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And so it's it's concerning, right?
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They need to figure this out and it needs to be rooted out,
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right? We can't have that type of thing
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happening in the in in, in any of these sports 'cause that's
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that. That's an issue.
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So glad they found it. I'm glad they caught him.
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I'm I don't think he should ever play again.
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And I think they should investigate further and find out
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if anybody else is doing this because it just can't.
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They can't be. I don't even care if it's on my
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team. You can find guys in Michigan
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doing it. Throw them out.
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I mean, we just can't. We can't have this.
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Yeah. I mean, it become an integrity
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issue and wasn't it 2022 or 2023, they got a bunch of
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players from Iowa State doing that.
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I think the quarterback, he had all his eligibility taken away
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from him. So I don't know if there has
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been changes in the rules since that came down.
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But if you believe college football's got integrity left,
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certainly debatable, I don't think.
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They ever had any? Well, This is why I phrased it
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like I did. But yeah, he he cannot be
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allowed to take another snap. Yeah, definitely not.
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And somewhere you can hear Pete Rose spinning in his grave.
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Oh yeah. Well, I mean, he's lawyered up.
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So I mean, you don't want to lose that 5 million.
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Now apparently I, I had read somewhere that he had been
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getting, I guess he signed for like 5,000,000 bucks and he'd
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been getting payments monthly since he showed up at Texas
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Tech. So I would say maybe from
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January through maybe April he got paid.
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But now like Cincinnati's coming after him for 1,000,000 bucks.
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I mean, I understand him fighting it.
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I mean, he could lose 5,000,000 bucks.
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He's probably not getting his May payment from Texas Tech, I
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would imagine. But yeah, I just wonder if the
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NCAA draws this out and I think the supplemental draft, Tim, I
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think like end of June somewhere around there.
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I think so. I think so, yeah.
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Maybe he just decides, you know what, it's not worth fighting
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it. If I stay past June 30th and
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then I lose, I'm screwed. So I I don't know, but he he
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really should not be allowed to play I.
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Agree that. I don't think he'd get taken in
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because don't you have to give up your first round pick or
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something if you take the guy well?
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Obviously it comes with baggage. Now I, I, I don't know, I'm I'm
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sure some quarterback desperate franchise would take him, but.
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Well, they've got like 30 quarterbacks.
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I mean, none of them are very good.
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Well, as long as. He doesn't go to the Las Vegas
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Raiders, at least to keep them out of the.
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Casino, yeah, they're not going to.
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They're not going to take them. There's no way in hell.
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Wonder if that Koushi site has any online.
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So we have to follow the Koushi college football section if they
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have one. See what's going on?
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Second part of that section and Tim, I know you, you already
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have a bet. So I guess this is more towards
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Pete. Are you looking to do anything
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with tech now since this news came out?
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There are odds to win the conference.
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You can get a little bit of plus money on them now if you think
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at the very least they could make the game and give yourself
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a hedging opportunity. If I remember correctly, we were
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talking about being on the under despite the heavy juice at 11
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1/2, that's down to 10 1/2. Any of those numbers conference
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or win. So it will interest you at this
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point. That's a good question.
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I, I don't, I don't know. I, I haven't dug too deeply into
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it yet. I mean, I thought about it a
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little bit. I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure
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how to read it. I don't know.
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I mean, he's obviously not going to play.
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Yeah. I mean, maybe the under still
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interests me a little bit. So I might, I might take another
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look at that, see what the number looks like later today.
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But I I haven't done that yet. And Tim, I know you got the
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national championship. Bet You thinking of adding any
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Texas Tech goodies to your portfolio up to this point?
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No, I'm just wondering if he does play, what would be the RB?
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Like if the over under is like 52 and toward the end of the
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game they're sitting there at like 50 and you know there's a
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wide open receiver and somehow he overthrows them or something
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like. That's another.
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Reason why he had the under there it.
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Doesn't matter what he does going forward out there, there's
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going to be questions. Bad throw.
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Doesn't matter what happens, it's going to be, oh, OK, what
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was the line? What was going on?
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What did he? I mean, it's just that that's
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just that's, that's a problem, period.
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Well, let's get on off the depressing subject.
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Let's talk about something not as quite quite as depressing.
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Let's talk about the ACC, we'll say.
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That for FSU in a little bit. Can I just say one thing about I
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was thinking about this this morning, how much we bash the
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Big 12 for being like a dumpster fire.
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But when you think about it, should shouldn't we look at that
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as a betting show as like prime betting opportunity because
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nobody really knows what's going on with the Big 12 while this
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conference last year had a team play in the national
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championship game that didn't even win their own conference.
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So I mean, I I think we can the ACC may have very well
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supplanted the Big 12 as the power cord dumpster fire.
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But that's just my thought. I mean that's a five loss Duke
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team make the ACC Thomas title. Miami just works their way
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through the playoff. Well, they're the Dukes, the
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defending champion, aren't they? So there we go.
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Yeah, we did. I mean, we did mention a little
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bit during the Big 12 shows though, where, yeah, it is a
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dumpster fire. But it's an interesting one
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because a lot of angles you could play there.
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There's just, I don't think there's so many bets that could
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be good that there's, it's just open, open game.
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There's a lot of fodder there. So here, I don't know, it's a
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little different. OK, well, let's get going here.
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We got the first half. This is Part 1, obviously.
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So the first half of the conference we're doing, we're
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going to start off with Boston College plus 25,000 to win the
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conference in the over Under is 3 1/2 wins.
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Darren, let's start with you. What do you got?
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God I hate this team so much. If you're a big believer, you
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can get plus 30,000 at FanDuel. As of earlier today, this team
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cannot run the ball. The two transfer quarterbacks
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I've never even heard of some dude from Arkansas, Grayson
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Wilson and a Saginaw Valley State transfer.
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Just terrible. I mean, they did get Evan
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Dickens, Liberty's leading rusher.
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So they're obviously making an effort to run the ball.
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They picked up six offensive line transfers, so pretty
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obvious what what they're trying to do here.
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But again, the quarterback play is so questionable.
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Obviously, I don't think any of us are going to reasonably say
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they even have shot at winning the conference, but that win
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total is interesting. Initially, I went right to the
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under just because you've got SMU, Notre Dame and Miami on the
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schedule to start with. I mean, even home games, you got
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Virginia Tech, you've got Pittsburgh.
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I mean, who knows what Syracuse, Sir, Sorry, Tim, what FSU is
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going to look like this year. But I just don't see how this
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team is going to surpass this win total here.
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The under is pretty heavy juiced at FanDuel.
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I see -142 I would lean that way if if I had to do anything.
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But anytime I can't tell, even with a reasonable assumption,
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who the quarterback is going to be, I'm just going to stay away
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from this team altogether. Yeah, my turn.
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So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's hard to say anything positive
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about this team. I mean, I, I think their their
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their job this year is to try to be respectable.
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They're certainly not going to be relevant.
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Yeah, I mean the under, if anything, I don't.
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I mean, Bill O'Brien was a third year whatever there.
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I mean, I thought we'd get a little bit more out of this than
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he's getting out of this. I'm not sure why that is.
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You know, this is a team that used to be able to draw some
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talent, I mean, before, you know, before the portal.
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But you think with, you know, a decent coach and, you know, BC
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still has a name that they could pull some decent talent through
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the portal, but clearly they can't or they don't have the
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money or I don't know what's going on there with that.
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But yeah, to your point, right, they're, they're, they're
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pulling people through the portal that are not exactly show
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stoppers. So I, I'm not sure what's going
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on with that. I, I, I don't see this thing
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going well. I, I probably, more than likely,
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there's probably some changes coming down the road here.
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We start talking about head coaching shows and all of that.
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Probably not immediately. But I don't know what the
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expectations there either are though.
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So, I mean, at the end of the day, the expectations may be low
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for this program at the school. So who knows.
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But yeah, my expectations are very low.
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So if I would do anything, maybe it's the under, but I I wouldn't
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touch this team with anything. Yeah, I was in the same, but I
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was heavily leading the under. But I did not want to fire away
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on a bullet on that one. I mean 3 1/2, I mean, still not
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for me. So let's move on to California
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plus 2500 to win the conference. The over Under is 6 1/2 wins.
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We started with Darren last time.
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Peter, what are you talking about?
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The Bears. Yeah, I think they're a little
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they're, they're fascinating to me.
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I think they're they're pretty interesting.
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And I think the, the roster is definitely upgraded from what
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they had before. I, you know, I, I think they're
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probably going to be somewhat volatile.
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So we'll see what happens there. But they've added something like
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30 plus players to the roster, which is a, which is a big deal,
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right? There's a roster that needed to
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be upgraded. I, I think it's definitely been
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upgraded. It's like 32 transfers or
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something, which is, which is a lot, right?
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It's a massive roster reset, which is good.
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So I think I, I, that can only be positive for this team,
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right? So when total is what 6 1/2 with
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that schedule, you know, maybe I would consider going the over.
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I'm trying to do this in the fly because I wasn't going to do
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that. I mean, I would to me it was a
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slight lean over on the 6 1/2. I do kind of like this roster
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build. We'll see if it holds up, but I
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think they're definitely moving in the right direction for a for
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a team that has not been very good of late.
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I think that they've definitely taken a step in the right
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directions. Even if they don't go over that
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6 1/2 this year, I think this team's moving in the right
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direction. So the future I think is
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somewhat positive here. So we'll see where it goes.
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So regardless of what actually happens this year in terms of
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wins, this is a big step in the right direction for this team.
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So I do, I do like to see that because I do like to see Cal
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play well. So those are my thoughts.
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All right, Darren. Yeah, I, I partially agree.
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I do agree with what Pete said about this team heading in the
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right direction. I, I, I have a slight lean to
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the under here. I do like the head coaching
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hire. I mean, a good defensive guy.
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He did get the quarterback to stay.
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I'm going to try and pronounce the last name.
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Guys, here we go. Sagapulotele.
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I don't know if that's right, but that sounds good.
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So we're just going to go with JKS like everybody else does.
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So big win there. But again, we we talked about
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how Boston College struggled running the ball.
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Well, nobody struggled more than Cal did last in the conference
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in rushing. A lot of those incoming
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transfers, defense, they lost a ton on defense.
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A lot of those guys are coming out on that side of the ball and
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the schedule. Yeah, we talked about travel,
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especially after this whole realignment thing.
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Cal's got three trips all the way out to the East Coast, and
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you can see him there. Syracuse, NC State and Virginia,
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you're already talking about 1/4 of your games.
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You're flying all the way across the country.
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I don't like that at all. And also have trips to UNLV and
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SMU on there, two really good teams.
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And even the home games. You got Clemson, you got Pitt,
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you have an improving UCLA team. I think that game's going to be
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interesting counting UCLA to start the season off.
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I will watch it if that's on TVI do agree that they're heading in
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the right direction, though. I, I think this schedule and and
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you know, a whole new reset on defense makes it a little tough
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that this is going to be A7 win team.
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So six and six I think would be a success for this team, but I
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do agree they're headed in the right direction.
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I just don't think they're going to head in that direction too
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far this year. So I am slightly into the under.
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All right, Clemson last year, Pete, you had a nice bet with
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them, hit pretty early in the season for the win total.
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They are plus 1600 to win the conference.
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The win total over under is 7 1/2.
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Any thoughts this year on Clemson there, Pete?
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I almost pulled the trigger again.
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I'm a heavy lean on that over on that 7 1/2 again.
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I mean, yes, we're going through a major quarterback transition
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here. That's a big deal, of course,
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but Dabo's been there forever, right?
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And he seems to navigate those things pretty well.
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So I think that's good. And I, I, I like the structure.
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You know, it's a, it's a team that I love to hate in many
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respects, but you know, they, they generally are, you know,
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pretty, pretty solid. That 7 1/2 just feels low for
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Clemson. I mean, to me, I don't,
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Especially when that's what, plus 1600 to win the conference.
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Those two numbers don't seem to be lined up with each other very
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well at all. There's a disconnect between
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those, right? You would think the wind total
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should be higher if it's plus 1600 to win the conference.
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So to me, that wind total's low. It just doesn't.
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It doesn't match the other number.
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So to me, I think the 1600's probably correct.
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I think the seven and a half is low.
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So I almost pulled the trigger on it again, because I think it
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is a very it's not that their schedule's soft.
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Their schedule's not soft, right?
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There's some challenging games in here.
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That first game is gonna be really interesting with LSU,
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very interesting game. But otherwise, you know,
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there's, there's plenty of wins in the schedule if you look
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across it. So, you know, I, I think it
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would, I would not blame anybody for for taking the over here.
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They're not necessarily the old machine they've been, but that
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pricing at 7 1/2. I mean, that's that that that
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that under 7 1/2, which suggests they're falling pretty heavily
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and I just don't see that with this team.
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So if I would do anything, I would definitely bet the over I
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I may do that at some point anyway, but I'm not doing it
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right now. So heavy lean on the over.
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I'm just not playing it yet. All right, Darren, how would
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you? Yeah, I I actually agree with
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all that. First of all, F you Dabo, stop
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worrying about what Notre Dame does print in their own money,
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all right? If you could be independent, you
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do the same. So shut your portal avoiding ass
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up for a second. All right, I I don't think the
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schedule is actually that tough. I I think we look a lot, a lot
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of those logos there and we think, oh, good team, good team,
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good team. But I mean, if you kind of look
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at it, we, we already talked about Cal.
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I I think their two toughest games, they're right in the
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middle of there, Miami and Virginia Tech and those those
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are both in Death Valley. I mean, I'm down on Georgia Tech
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this year, down on Duke. They don't really have any tough
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conference Rd. game. Yes, that LSU game is going to
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be tough, probably start out O and one, but there's nothing
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else on there that doesn't really strike me as as
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unwinnable. I guess the seven and a half is
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there because, like Pete said, the quarterback situation.
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I don't know who this Christopher Vizinia, whatever
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the hell he pronounced his name is, but this is not a tough
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schedule. If they can get anything out of
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this guy, this should be a a relatively easy over and the
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juice I see a fan was only -128 that seemed kind of low.
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Like Pete. I I kind of almost fired on
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this. I didn't, but I may.
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Yeah, outside of that LSU game, there is nothing there that I
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look at and say, you know what, that's definitely a a loss.
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And again, who knows how long LSU's offense going to come
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together. They could they could be
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competitive and maybe pull that off as well.
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So huge quarterback question obviously is, is keeping me away
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from firing on anything here. But again, I I agree with Pete,
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if if I was going to do anything here, especially with that more
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than reasonable juice, I would bet the over.
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Here, Yeah, yeah. Show me 4 losses in that
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schedule. Where are you going to find?
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Exactly, that's what I'm saying. There's one on Halloween as they
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go to. Yeah, right.
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Yeah, yeah, that's a yeah. That's a scary game.
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See if they don't show up. But but for the quarterback, I
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would go for the over as well for, for that one.
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But I've always been like, whoever the quarterback is, if
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Klubnik was back, well, that line would be higher, I think,
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and probably be up maybe 8, maybe even 9.
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And a half of that. If Klubnik was coming back, but
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yeah, new quarterback, I was going to lean over, but not
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here. But we will move on to the
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defending champion Duke Blue Devils, plus maybe 500 to win
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the conference over under 5 1/2 wins, Darren said.
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You were down on them. How down are you on them?
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Down enough to where I heavily lean to the under here.
20:05
They just lost so much. I mean, and you can just start
20:07
with the offense. Darien Mensa and Cooper Bark 8,
20:10
their quarterback wide receiver combo, both heading to Miami.
20:14
They did get Nate Shepard back in the backfield, which is
20:16
great, but I got to feel like he's going to be a marked man
20:18
because I don't know. Do you trust Walker Egot to do
20:22
anything to lead this team to a bowl game?
20:25
I bet on him enough with San Jose State last year.
20:28
So I've learned my lesson and the answer is no, he's not going
20:31
to be able to lead this team to six wins.
20:33
You know, their top SAC guy on defense is gone.
20:36
And oh, perfect timing. Look at that schedule.
20:39
I mean, you get Clemson at home, but I think Clemson's going to
20:42
steamroll these guys anyway. And just look at the Road Rd.
20:45
schedule. Georgia Tech, Virginia, Miami,
20:47
NC State. I just, I don't see a bowl, I
20:54
don't see this team going to a bowl game, honestly.
20:56
And their defense is usually good.
20:58
I don't know what the hell happened to him last year, but
20:59
Manny Diaz, who was pretty impressive first few seasons
21:03
here at Duke, that just that defense was just, I mean, that
21:07
bowl game, Oh my God, that defense was awful.
21:09
I was giving up yards constantly.
21:11
So I want no part of this team strongly into the under, but I
21:16
did not fire. Yeah, I can't argue with any of
21:21
that. I mean, this is a this is last
21:23
year's conference winner that yeah, I mean, they they could
21:26
win four games this year and I would not be surprised to only
21:29
won four games this year. I mean, this this team got
21:31
gutted from the personnel perspective, lost a lot of
21:34
talent. And as Darren said that that
21:36
defense in the bowl game was it was brutal.
21:39
And I don't I don't expect any magic, you know, magic happening
21:42
here to resurrect that thing, you know, over the offseason
21:45
here. So I, I just, yeah, I don't, if
21:48
anything, be under on this thing.
21:50
I don't even like that. I don't know what to do with
21:51
this thing. I just, yeah, I mean, there's
21:53
probably going to be under, but I just, yeah, this team is going
21:56
to, it's going to be a rough year for a team that won the
21:58
conference last year. I, I, it's going to, it's going
22:01
to be ugly and that's about it. And that schedule is not
22:04
helping. You just read off five of those
22:06
games. They're going to get trucked in
22:08
most of those games. So I don't I their defense
22:10
cannot stop most of the teams in that schedule.
22:13
So and they can't score them because they, you know, they
22:16
lost most of their offensive talent.
22:17
So yeah, I don't know what's going to happen here other than
22:20
than losing a whole bunch of games this year.
22:22
That's that's what I forget. And wasn't wasn't that bowl game
22:25
that was Arizona State, like Arizona State all they were
22:27
playing like a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers.
22:29
Weren't they? And they were still like.
22:30
Parching up and down the field on duplicate.
22:32
They had no idea what they were doing.
22:34
It's terrible. I mean Jesus, like it's D2G or
22:38
something terrible. I took into account a lot of
22:40
those points you guys just made and I did make a pick.
22:43
I did go with the under here. Like we just had a lot of
22:47
turnover, a lot of new, new pieces to the puzzle, a lot less
22:51
experience. Again, the schedule is not doing
22:54
them any favours. A razor thin margin for error.
22:58
So they need six wins. I looked at that schedule.
23:03
I did not find six wins. I believe that this point, bowl
23:07
eligibility is pretty much of A stretch.
23:10
So I actually bet 2 units. I took Duke the under 5 1/2
23:14
wins, 2 units I got -1 O 5. That was on Hard Rock bets.
23:21
So we'll go with that and it's going to be pretty ugly.
23:24
Any final thoughts? Yeah, I'll take that.
23:30
Yeah, come on, let's go. Fire it up.
23:32
Speaking of ugly, we've got America's team here, Florida
23:37
State Seminoles plus 3000 to win the conference.
23:40
Over Under is 6 1/2 wins. Who wants to trounce them first?
23:45
Pete, you want to go first with this one.
23:47
Hey, I'll go first. I'll keep it short so we can
23:49
give you all the time in the world to fire away.
23:51
So 6 1/2 wins. I think there's a better chance
23:55
of me getting 6 1/2 wins than Florida State getting 6 1/2
23:58
wins. I don't like this team.
24:01
I, I, I mean, they're, they're better than Duke, if I could
24:05
give him that. I mean, that's that's about it.
24:07
I think they'll I think they'll be Duke outside of that, yeah.
24:11
Norvell's in trouble. I mean, he's he's in he's in he
24:14
was in serious trouble last. He's in trouble.
24:16
I don't know how he survives the season because I don't see what
24:19
this team is going to do. I don't like their personnel,
24:22
especially on the offensive side.
24:23
I don't, I don't, I, I don't like anything about them.
24:26
So I, I think that, you know, from, I think this team's a, a
24:31
fragile team. And I think that fans are going
24:33
to have a really rough year such as Tim watching this wonderful
24:36
team try to play against teams that they should be able to
24:39
compete with and just not going to.
24:40
So those are my 2 seconds of thoughts.
24:43
Darren, you're up. Yeah, I mean, anytime your
24:46
quarterback is your leading rusher, you're probably in a lot
24:49
of trouble. Statistically, this was not a
24:51
bad team, which tells me the the failure is all on Nordell.
24:56
If you can find odds first coach to be fired, he may be worth a
24:59
look because I I said again, Tim, I'm sorry.
25:03
So I know this is your squad, but I think there's a a long
25:07
year ahead for the Seminoles, unfortunately.
25:10
I mean, getting Tray wiser, Texas is nice, but I mean,
25:13
Ashton Daniels won your quarterback battle.
25:17
Gosh, jeez, that's not good. I'm just taking a look at the
25:23
schedule. SMU and Florida, probably your
25:25
two toughest home games, but again, Rd. game and to Alabama,
25:28
you know, they got a little payback after you guys smacked
25:30
them around last year. Louisville, Miami pit.
25:35
I mean, that could be 6 losses right there.
25:37
I I don't know. And I know this goes against
25:40
what? You bet, man.
25:44
I'll see. And I'm sorry.
25:45
I, I, why can we do that, man? I just don't.
25:48
I don't see it. Well hopefully he just gets
25:51
fired and he doesn't get arrested too like my coach did.
25:54
Just fired, not arrested as well think possible.
25:57
They give they they only use plastic silverware in Florida,
25:59
so you'll. Be fine, That's right.
26:01
That's true, that one gets too hot from all the humidity.
26:03
They just go with plastic stuff. Yeah, so, and it's a spork.
26:06
So it's not, it's the forks, you know, combo.
26:09
So that's that's fine. Any all the administrative
26:13
assistants are safe. But yeah, let's continue this.
26:16
So I know it. I know it hasn't been all sunny
26:18
down there in Tallahassee or over there for me down there for
26:21
you guys. I'm going to bet the over here,
26:25
you said our quarterback isn't that good.
26:27
I don't think it was that good last year for as many good
26:30
passes Castellano would make, he'd make like 5 or 6 that are
26:33
just, you know, what the hell are you doing?
26:35
I think he was more turnover prone.
26:39
So I think they do have some depth.
26:41
They got some of the kids to stay.
26:42
Some of them that were out in transfer portal, they pointed up
26:46
give him some more money because that's what it's all about here.
26:50
Ashton Daniels, whatever. I mean, he's at the very least
26:54
he's a small upgrade I think from Castellanos.
26:57
I think Norvell's going to take more of a chance.
26:59
I think they they hit the over and he may still get fired.
27:02
I think 8:00 and 4:00, you know, that record would would still
27:06
not be good enough to save his job.
27:07
I think everyone's just got it in for him.
27:08
So no matter what they do this year, I think.
27:10
He will be. Fired.
27:13
I think the schedule's actually a little bit manageable.
27:17
So this team, obviously it's not a ten win powerhouse team, but I
27:22
think they can get up with the 6 1/2 wins.
27:26
I just I think this will be a bounce back here.
27:27
I'm rooting for it because I'd like to see everyone just, you
27:31
know, trounce on Norville and I'd like to see him bounce back
27:33
and have a good year and then have everyone like start kissing
27:36
his ass again. I hope he tells them all to go
27:37
to hell, but that's my thing. I'm not going to rant too too
27:41
much because I'm still battling his sore throat.
27:44
But yeah, I still like the over at 6 1/2 and getting plus 1/15
27:49
on a Hard Rock. Bets still going to be a long
27:52
year, but I think they clear it, but barely.
27:54
I think Norville still gets fired and that's all I got to
27:58
say about that. Any thoughts?
28:00
Well, your blue title there is absolutely on point today.
28:02
FSU Homer cause his thing is juiced heavily to the under.
28:06
So you're like the one guy standing up there saying they're
28:08
going over. So that's that's good.
28:11
If you're a Homer, you should be saying that.
28:12
Tim, I'm gonna disagree. I think if they go 8 and four, I
28:14
think he keeps his job. He might, yeah, I think.
28:17
He's not I. Think he does.
28:19
They're not posting this. Team in that schedule, I think
28:21
he keeps his job. I agree if they win.
28:23
I hope he does. I mean, if they win seven games,
28:25
he might, he might keep his job. So I you know.
28:29
Well, he, they, there was, they made everyone made a big stink.
28:31
He fired Patrick, Sir Tan as a defensive backs coach and
28:34
everyone, obviously everyone that wants him gone and all
28:36
kicking him around for that. He knows this is the year it's
28:40
put up or shut up. So if it's if it's a mistake and
28:43
he loses his job, I think he'll be able to live with that.
28:46
But if he keeps them and it ends up being a mistake and he still
28:49
loses his job, he won't be able to deal with that, you know,
28:51
make your own mistakes. So if getting rid of Sir Tan and
28:54
that makes the defensive backs even worse than they were last
28:56
year, then fine, it's a mistake. But he's going to go out making
28:59
his own mistakes. He kept some of the coaches
29:02
there and yeah, we'll see what happens.
29:06
I think they can do it. I think they can get minimum 7.
29:09
I'll be surprised if they get 8 and 4.
29:11
But I think they get to a bowl game.
29:14
I think they get seven wins. Don't ask me to point them out
29:17
which ones. I think they'll win a few games
29:19
that a lot of people will have them underdogs in for sure.
29:23
And no one thinks that they're going to win so.
29:25
Be a positive year for them. That'd be a really good year for
29:27
your team, honestly. And for him.
29:28
He needs that. So yeah.
29:30
Yeah, he needs it because by all accounts, everybody you know
29:33
outside of the stadium, you know, they all love the guy.
29:35
I see how much a great guy he is so.
29:38
Yeah, he seems like a great dude.
29:38
So I mean, I have roots for the guy to do well.
29:41
I don't want him to do poorly, but yeah, I don't.
29:44
Know the, you know, I listen to like the lockdown and some of
29:46
the other ones and they're all just like, you know, three years
29:50
ago they were all praising the guy.
29:52
They were scared he was going to go and they're all banging him
29:54
to stay. And now, you know, he's the
29:56
worst coach ever and you'll be coaching Pop Warner somewhere.
30:00
So the weathervane, whichever way the wind blows, that's the
30:03
way the media is going to go. So we'll see what happens.
30:06
Always the way it is all. Right before I start ranting
30:09
even more, let's go on Georgia Tech plus 3000 and win the
30:12
conference. Also, 6 1/2 wins is the Over
30:15
under. Darren, let's start with you
30:17
with Georgia Tech. Yeah, this is the one theme I
30:20
went back and forth on a couple of times.
30:23
I I really have no idea what to make of this team.
30:26
I mean, initially you could say, well, both coordinators and
30:28
Haynes King are gone. It's all gloom and doom, but I
30:32
don't know, offensive it is. I mean, they still have an
30:35
excellent running back tandem. What?
30:37
I got your Michigan guy there with the Justice Haynes.
30:40
Now Guy Hosley helps him out. They got a Mendoza playing
30:44
quarterback. I mean, how bad can this offense
30:46
be? You know, Fernando's little
30:48
brother probably going to be the starting quarterback here.
30:53
You know, they do have to replace, I believe 3 starters on
30:55
the line. That could be an issue.
30:58
But I think offense me, they're going to be OK.
31:00
I mean, they're going to basically do what they did when
31:04
they had Haines King, which is try and run the ball, control
31:06
the clock, keep their defense off the field.
31:09
But I mean, this schedule's not terrible though.
31:11
So I I saw the 6 1/2. I saw that it's a little bit of
31:14
plus money on FanDuel. And I thought, oh, you know, I
31:17
love me some plus money win totals when I think that number
31:21
may be off. But looking at that schedule,
31:23
it's not awful. I mean, you get Tennessee at
31:27
home. I've heard differing opinions on
31:30
Tennessee. We we obviously haven't done the
31:31
SEC yet, but you know, the road games.
31:34
What do you got Pit Clemson and Georgia?
31:36
Well, the Georgia's always the rivalry game at the end of the
31:38
year. Who knows how that's going to go
31:40
over. I I kind of I didn't initially
31:42
have a lean when I was looking over my notes last night.
31:46
Maybe a slight lean of the over if you could still get that plus
31:49
one O 6 there. I I don't hate this team, but I
31:54
have questions with the defense. So I did not fire anything here,
31:57
Yeah. You.
32:01
You basically so reading off my script, I mean, I think you
32:04
nailed it. This is a really interesting
32:06
plus money situation with that over and I've I've gone back and
32:10
forth too. I'm looking at so they have 7
32:12
home games, right, which certainly is going to help them
32:15
out. I mean, yeah, there's a few that
32:16
are pretty tough, but you go through this, can you find 7
32:19
seven wins? I mean, I think so.
32:22
I mean it's that's why I go back and forth.
32:24
I can see 6 for sure Seven. I don't know it's close.
32:28
I'm so sane, but I've gone I went back and forth on this, but
32:30
I you know, I I do think that the offense is going to be fine.
32:34
I think they're going to play well.
32:36
I don't think that's going to be an issue other than the
32:38
offensive line, as you mentioned right.
32:39
So we'll see how that goes, but I'm I'm assuming it's going to
32:43
go OK ish. So we'll see yeah.
32:46
I mean, I once again, this is another one we're going with the
32:49
over here. What makes sense.
32:52
I mean, I I would not blame anybody for doing that.
32:54
I almost did myself right. It's definitely a lean for me on
32:57
the over, maybe not as strong of a lean as my other lean, but
33:03
definitely, definitely a lean. It's something that I could
33:06
still play as well, especially that plus money.
33:08
I mean, you don't get plus money like that very often in a
33:12
situation like this. So it is very intriguing and I
33:16
think this team will be, I think this team's still going to be
33:19
good. They're not going to be as good
33:20
as last year, probably not whether they're nine and four
33:22
last year or something, they're not going to be that.
33:23
But I think they're still going to be a pretty good team.
33:25
So we'll see how it plays out, but that over is quite
33:27
intriguing. One thing for sure, they will
33:30
run the damn ball going to the coach.
33:33
That's. What you got to do?
33:35
And we're going to move on to Louisville or Louisville or
33:38
wherever hell they say it. So they got +1000 to win the
33:41
conference. The over under win total is 7
33:44
1/2. Peter's good with you because
33:46
Darren's got to play. He's got the hat on.
33:47
He's got the merch. Peter, any thoughts with
33:51
Louisville? Man, I I'm going to save a lot
33:54
of time for Darren. This is a team that baffles me a
33:56
little bit. I mean, plus 850 was what I saw
33:59
plus thousand here. You know, that's, that's that's
34:03
intriguing. But I think for sure, you know,
34:07
if I was going to, I mean, this over 7 1/2 is playable, but it's
34:10
juice, right? So I probably wouldn't touch
34:12
that because of the juice, but that 850 or well that that I
34:16
pulled earlier that thousand here is especially at 1000.
34:20
That is quite interesting 'cause they certainly haven't.
34:23
They just have a chance. Now that that said, well,
34:26
Miami's still coming up here. I I think Miami's going to win
34:28
this conference hands down. But that said, if anybody else
34:34
is going to win it, it could very well be Louisville.
34:35
So I do like that bet 'cause if Miami stumbles and they very
34:40
well could, then this is the team that's going to pick it up.
34:43
So, so it is very it's an interesting play.
34:46
It makes sense that plus 1000. So yeah, I, I would, I would
34:50
like that bet. All right, Darren, the floor is
34:53
yours. Yeah, so like a couple maybe
34:57
like a month ago we did the Big 12 Part 1.
35:00
And you know, one of the things I do here for the show is I get
35:03
all these guys bets that they made like the Tuesday or
35:05
Wednesday before send it off to Tim so he can make the graphic.
35:08
And when I when I got some of your stuff for your Tim's
35:10
Arizona bet, Pete's Baylor bet, I was like, man, I I'm
35:13
interested to hear what these guys say because I'm, I was kind
35:17
of on the other side of of what you guys were thinking.
35:20
And correct me if I'm wrong, you both basically said, you know,
35:23
you have faith in the quarterback.
35:26
Tim was a fan of a feeder. Pete said he believes in in
35:28
Lagway to have a bounce back here.
35:30
Well, I'm joining the believe it in the QB train because I'm all
35:34
in on Lincoln King Holtz. All right, love.
35:37
It absolutely love it. First of all, defensively, this
35:40
team was really good last year. I mean, they did roll into
35:43
Miami, intercept Carson Beck four times and come away with a
35:47
win. Unfortunately, that did not lead
35:50
to a conference championship appearance, but this defense
35:52
should still be good. They are replacing a lot in the
35:54
secondary, but they did hit the portal to fill in some of those
35:58
holes and the defensive line looks great.
35:59
I mean, any secondary is going to look better when you have a
36:01
defensive line. They can get to the quarterback,
36:03
which I believe Louisville has now offensively, while we've got
36:06
nothing to go on from the quarterback, handful of things I
36:10
like here. First, Isaac Brown entered the
36:12
portal, came back out of the portal.
36:13
So they have a stud in the backfield which will be helpful.
36:16
Lost a ton of receivers and tight ends, I guess especially
36:19
Laci and Bell. They're they're top 2, but they
36:22
hit the portal hard at both wide receiver and tight end.
36:25
They got Vanderbilt's leading wide receiver, Trey Richardson.
36:27
They got the Tulsa tight end Brady Foley, who LED Tulsa in
36:32
receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.
36:34
So they have surrounded Keenholtz with pretty good
36:37
productive players at all the skilled positions here.
36:40
Offensive line, little bit of question mark on the ends, but
36:42
but the middle part of that old line looks really good.
36:44
And Jeff Brohm, this guy's gonna make me go back into therapy
36:48
like 2023 Oklahoma State. This dude always pulls off an
36:53
upset. He's like the Georgia Tech head
36:54
coach always beats somebody he's not supposed to beat and then
36:57
always lays a pile of shit against a a team that he's
37:01
supposed to steamroll. And last year, perfect example,
37:04
rolling into Miami and beating the Hurricanes.
37:07
And I'm thinking, wow, hey, that that eight to one that I got for
37:10
them to win the conference is looking really good.
37:12
And then they shit the bed at home against California.
37:15
So I was like, all right, that's Jeff Brohm doing Jeff Brohm
37:18
things. Did I learn my lesson?
37:19
Hell no, I am back on them. I mean, Jeff Brohm with
37:24
quarterbacks, he's usually really, really good.
37:26
Now, maybe that's on me. Miller Moss, obviously not that
37:29
guy. You know he's not going to hit
37:31
on every transfer portal QB he gets, but let's remember he got
37:35
great stats out of Tyler Shuck 2 years ago.
37:37
He got great stats out of Jack Plummer three years ago when he
37:40
was a head coach at Purdue. He got multiple good years out
37:43
of Aidan O'Connell. All right, those three guys
37:45
couldn't run if you were chasing them with a flamethrower.
37:48
At least keynotes gives you some mobility here.
37:51
So there's not going to be a lot ass of him to start with.
37:54
That opening week against Ole Miss, man, that is on a Sunday
37:58
night. And you know what sucks?
37:59
Sunday night, Labor Day weekend, there's two games, Notre Dame
38:02
and Wisconsin and this Louisville, Ole Miss, and they
38:05
kick off at the same time. Who's the dumbass that scheduled
38:07
it? Why would you do that?
38:09
Dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
38:11
But anyway, yeah, I'm going to go with Jeff Rahm getting back
38:16
on the I can figure out my quarterback take because I mean,
38:19
he doesn't have his own system. He takes his quarterback, he
38:22
works his offensive system around whoever he has at
38:24
quarterback. So shame on me for not realizing
38:27
that Miller Moss was obviously not that guy and I should have
38:30
known he didn't really light it up at USC.
38:31
And if you can't light it up playing for Lincoln Riley, maybe
38:34
you're the problem. So.
38:36
And bet MGM had a nice 12:50 so. I like that.
38:41
Yeah, yeah. So I I saw like plus 800, I
38:43
think FanDuel had plus 850. I was going to leave it alone,
38:47
but I was like, you know what, let me just check that MGM see
38:49
what they have. 12:50 I fired right away, but I guess so,
38:53
yeah, I do leave a half unit play here on Louisville to win
38:57
the conference at 12:50. And if they screw me a second
39:01
year in a row, we'll have a ceremonial burning of the of the
39:06
Cardinal. There we go.
39:08
That doesn't matter. Come on, do two things.
39:09
Number one, we don't learn any lessons here, so you'll just go
39:12
right back to the. That's also true.
39:13
I will probably. We're like, we're like dogs or
39:15
or fat people at a buffet. We just go right back up until
39:17
they take the food away. The second thing, the Miami
39:21
Louisville game that we went to was most one of the most
39:23
enjoyable. It was the most enjoyable game
39:25
that we went to. That game was great like so
39:28
anybody out there was looking for games to go to going to
39:31
watch those two teams play was awesome.
39:33
You should definitely consider it, especially Louisville.
39:36
That atmosphere was awesome. It was a great game.
39:38
Highly recommended bet the over town the.
39:41
Over. Bet the over because they could
39:43
stop each other at all. It was a scoring fast.
39:45
It was great. Cam Ward has the ability.
39:48
Well, that was that was that was Pete Miami.
39:50
They had Cam Ward running the offense.
39:52
Their defence couldn't stop anybody.
39:53
I mean, that was beautiful. Exactly.
39:56
Amazing. Well, Speaking of Miami, it's
39:59
all about to you. That's what I say.
40:01
So we got the fighting crystal balls.
40:03
They are at -135 to win the conference.
40:06
The over under is 10 1/2 wins. We think we do have a play on
40:10
this one. We're going to start with
40:11
Darren. Maybe crystal ball will do some
40:14
crystal balling here. What do you think on the?
40:16
Mighty Hurricanes. I don't know, man, I I want him
40:19
to crystal ball, but I think we discussed this last year.
40:21
He didn't crystal ball at all. I mean, he did he did not have a
40:24
crystal ball moment. I was, I was very disappointed.
40:28
So shout out to him. Maybe after all that time he has
40:32
learned the question. I first of all, I know Pete and
40:35
I disagree on this a little bit. I do think Darien menses A
40:37
slight upgrade over Carson Beck. I think there's just more that
40:40
he can do that Beck could not at LFP discussed that the Carson
40:46
Becks died, but that that's just my thoughts.
40:47
All right. So Malkitoni probably the best
40:49
player on the field anytime Miami is involved in a college
40:53
football game. But again, we talked about not
40:55
only men to transferring, but his top wide receiver
40:57
transferring also from Duke. So I think there's going to be
41:00
some some continuity on that offense right away.
41:02
You've got Mark Fletcher returning in the backfield.
41:05
So I don't see any issue with this offense other than the O
41:08
line Cristobal. You know, we joke about them all
41:12
the time, but the dude can recruit talent.
41:14
All right though, that O line and that D line last year were
41:16
both insane and that's that's the reason they got as far as
41:19
they got. That being said, those are the
41:22
two biggest question marks I have for this team because they
41:25
lost so many players to the draft.
41:28
I guess we'll find out how good a recruiter Cristobal is.
41:33
So the depth on those two position groups is my only
41:35
concern. This schedule's a joke, but
41:40
yeah, if they can't get to the quarterback or if they can't
41:42
stop any people, anybody from getting to Mensa, they might not
41:47
be in the ACC title game again. But yeah, I mean, Homer talk
41:54
maybe, but I think Notre Dame's going to smack the shit out of
41:57
these guys in November when they meet.
42:00
And if I'm working that day, I'll be calling out.
42:02
I'll. But yeah, I, I mean, the
42:06
schedule's not not anything that scares me.
42:10
But again, you've got questions on the line.
42:13
So we'll we'll see. We'll see.
42:14
I, I have no lean or bet on here.
42:18
Selfishly, I'm kind of hoping that they that they only go like
42:21
maybe 9:00 and 3:00 because I'm not a fan of Miami and because I
42:24
have a bet on Louisville. But slightest of leans to the
42:29
under just because questions on both sides of the line all.
42:33
Right, Peter, over to you. Yeah, I do have a bet here.
42:36
I have a pretty heavy one actually.
42:37
So I mean, to me, this is a really good team.
42:40
That 10 1/2 is a bad number, right?
42:43
I, I don't like that number at all.
42:46
Honestly. I think this team can be
42:48
relatively elite and still go 10 and two.
42:51
That's that's my view here. And I agree with Darren 100%.
42:53
When I look at the schedule, right?
42:54
And when I went game by game through this thing, I am
42:57
counting that Notre Dame is a loss because I think they're
42:59
going to go up there and I think they're going to get beat,
43:01
especially what is that November later in the year they're going
43:04
to get beat. And so I need one more loss
43:06
somewhere in here, right? And I'm looking through I'm
43:08
like, well, I mean, Stanford, of course, I'm leaning Miami there
43:12
going down. So they're going to beat
43:14
Central, probably going to beat Wake, Clemson at Clemson, who
43:19
knows, right? I mean it that that that's
43:20
dangerous. That could be that.
43:22
Could be the one right there, right?
43:25
Certainly, you know, Duke leaning Miami and I don't Boston
43:29
College they're going to beat. So I mean that that's got to be
43:31
the one to me. Maybe Revatech, I don't know.
43:34
I mean, so I just need one more loss.
43:36
I need them. I need AI need a crystal ball
43:38
moment. That's what I need.
43:40
And one of those other games I need a crystal ball moment just
43:42
to lose one more and I got it right.
43:45
And that's what I think is going to happen.
43:46
So I think they probably will lose 2 games and that's all I
43:50
need and but still I think they're going to win the
43:52
conference. As I said earlier, when they're
43:54
talking about Louisville, I think they're going to win the
43:56
conference. So that's why I'm going heavy on
43:58
this. I'm going 3 units on the under
44:01
just because I think the Notre Dame thing will happen.
44:03
They will lose that game and I think they're just going to stub
44:06
their toe one more time someplace else.
44:08
It won't hurt them longer term because they're going to win the
44:10
conference, I think, and they'll move along from there.
44:13
So I would not be surprised if they had an earlier in the
44:17
season stumble somewhere along the way.
44:20
Who knows, But you know, Clemson's what Game 5, I think
44:23
on their schedule, so I could I could see that happening.
44:25
I would not be surprised there. Hey, maybe maybe if FSU is is as
44:30
good as you know, better like Tim is saying, you know, who
44:33
knows? I mean, that's a that's a
44:34
rivalry game. So you never know in those games
44:36
who's going to who's going to do what.
44:38
So that's a possibility there. So who knows, right.
44:41
But I think yeah, that under is really, really juicy here.
44:45
So I'm all over it with three units.
44:48
Maybe we can count on the two time zone thing.
44:51
Week one at Stanford. We'll see what happens, yeah.
44:54
The tree is going to take him down I.
44:55
Love it. That would be nice.
44:57
That would be great. Get that first one out of the
44:59
way right there in the middle. He does have a track record of
45:02
hitting multi unit win totals in September so.
45:06
It's true. That is true proven track
45:08
record. So and we're going to wrap up
45:11
today's with the North Carolina State Wolfpack AR Plus 2500 to
45:16
win the conference over under a four and a half wins.
45:19
Darren, let's go to you to start this one.
45:21
What's he doing about the Wolf Pack?
45:23
Think that over under is off because I'm showing 7 1/2.
45:26
Here I'm seeing 7 1/2 too. It's like, oh, that doesn't
45:29
match up at all. It was 6 1/2 when I initially
45:33
started my notes, but it was so heavily juiced to the over that
45:35
I saw FanDuel today. Moved it to 7 1/2 with minus.
45:39
One, those two numbers don't line up at all.
45:41
Then 25104 1/2 no all. Right no worries either way.
45:48
This schedule's a joke. I I didn't have a chance to look
45:51
at the other eight teams, which is why I didn't do any win total
45:54
bets for for this first part of this preview here.
45:58
But I look at this team on paper and outside of CJ Bailey coming
46:01
back to be the quarterback, what else does this team have other
46:05
than a soft schedule that would lead me to believe that this is
46:08
an ACC championship contender? I mean, maybe the schedule's
46:11
enough to get it done. You lost Hollywood Smothers, you
46:13
lost your top two wide receivers, your defense was
46:16
awful. You only got 20 sacks on the
46:18
year in 12 games, and you're at the bottom of a lot of defensive
46:22
categories in the conference. Someone tell me that I don't
46:26
know when, when you just look this bad, you know, I saw the 6
46:30
1/2 heavy juice and I looked at the schedule.
46:32
I'm like, Oh my God, this could be a nine win team.
46:34
It's a schedule. It's all the schedule, right?
46:36
I mean, this is not about. To be all the schedule.
46:38
I mean, Virginia, you know, Dan, they were in the ACC title game
46:42
last year. You're going to an SEC school
46:44
there early September in Vanderbilt, you got Louisville.
46:47
I mean, we can scratch weight 'cause they got Gio Lopez.
46:50
We know how terrible he is. But again, you got that cross
46:53
country trip to Stanford. You know, if if Florida State's
46:57
playing like anything, that's going to be a tough place to
46:59
play. But my God, how does this team
47:03
not win 8 games? Yeah.
47:07
I mean, where do you see 4 losses on?
47:09
There, Yeah, it's hard to hard to find 4 losses exactly they.
47:13
Could, unless you get them all early.
47:14
I mean unless Virginia, Vandy, and Louisville all end up being
47:17
losses you just have to hope for you know.
47:20
But I mean still even if they lose eggs I hope for like 2 more
47:23
screw ups to to not hit the over.
47:25
I just. I I mean they could.
47:27
Flame. They could easily run the the
47:30
last five at the last six. They could easily run those last
47:34
six games and win them. All right.
47:35
I mean, they they could. So I that, yeah.
47:40
Yeah. I I, I just, I don't, I don't
47:42
say, I mean, I don't, I don't like anything on the about this
47:44
team except for the quarterback, but they might not need much
47:48
more than that to, to win eight games here.
47:50
So I mean, I guess, you know, quarterback play is, is key.
47:54
They've got one I guess I would lean over, but I don't dare fire
48:00
it because I don't know anything else about this team.
48:02
Yeah, same quick thing. Yeah, look, I had that Part 2.
48:07
The North Carolina Tar Heels over under is 4 1/2 the wrong
48:11
one on my phone. Didn't notice it.
48:12
I. Saw one.
48:16
You know what, it's weird 'cause like North Carolina, you think
48:19
would have come to alphabetically before North
48:20
Carolina State, but where I pulled it from, they put NC
48:23
State. So NC came before NO.
48:27
So that's how we got the Wolfpack instead of the Tar
48:29
Heels for this show, So. I bring the alphabet.
48:32
That's why makes perfect sense I guess.
48:34
For eyesight or fever or whatever.
48:37
So I. Don't know.
48:38
I mean Pete, Tim, am I wrong? I mean the the schedules name.
48:41
Do you guys like anything besides the quarterback?
48:43
Should I? Just clear.
48:45
I. Mean like I agree with
48:46
everything I. Just 110 seems like it almost a
48:48
Gimme at this point. If I could get my hands on a 6
48:51
1/2 still, still somewhere, anywhere, I would be all over
48:54
that over 6 1/2. 7 1/2 is I still think they're going to go
48:58
over 7 1/2, but it's a little tighter, right?
49:00
Definitely leaning on the seven and a half.
49:02
I would play the 6 1/2 if I could get it.
49:04
All right. That's because I agree.
49:05
I don't, I don't think this team's that great.
49:07
The quarterback's fine, but the schedule, as you said, is a is
49:10
is a freaking cakewalk. So other than a few.
49:13
Yeah. So they're.
49:13
Going to lose. They're going to lose to
49:17
Louisville. They're going to lose to
49:18
Virginia. The home game, at least.
49:20
Yeah. I mean, Vanderbilt's down, but I
49:23
still think going there and winning is going to be tough.
49:26
And I mean, those last two games are kind of interesting because,
49:28
like you say, you don't know what Florida State's going to
49:30
look like. You know, Bobby Petrino is the
49:32
offensive coordinator at North Carolina now.
49:34
I believe if there's anybody that can get North Carolina to
49:37
put up some points. And.
49:39
Their defense was playing, their defense was playing pretty legit
49:42
at the end of last year. So I mean, maybe they lose 1 or
49:45
both of those last two, but I mean, if CJ Bailey takes a step
49:50
forward like all second year quarterbacks we hope do, I don't
49:55
see how this team's not not a nine win team.
49:58
Yeah, they should win at least five out of their last six, I
50:01
would think. All right, so you just need a
50:03
couple more somewhere else. And I I think they're there.
50:06
So yeah. Who's the new OC over there at
50:09
UNC? Katrina.
50:13
He's on the same coaching staff with Bill Belichick.
50:16
He is I. Believe.
50:19
OK, that'll be interesting to watch for sure.
50:24
Steve Bill Belichick's girlfriend off Bobby Petrino's
50:26
motorcycle. It'll be perfect year and and
50:29
Chapel Hill baby. That's good.
50:30
Here we go. It's going to be fantastic.
50:34
All right, let's wrap up this show of Part 1 of the ACC
50:38
preview. We'll start off with my picks.
50:40
I got 2 units on Duke under 5 1/2 wins.
50:43
I got that at -1 O 5:00. And also I have Florida State, 2
50:47
units over a 6 1/2 win, shocking the nation at plus 115.
50:51
Pete, what you got? I wouldn't be be shocked, yes.
50:56
So Miami 3 units under 10 1/2 wins and couple leans that I
51:01
mentioned before. Also, Clemson over 7 1/2 as a
51:03
lean and potentially Georgia Tech over 6 1/2 as a lean.
51:08
And Darren? Yeah, for me right now, just
51:10
adding in, there may be some other win totals.
51:12
I didn't get a chance to to break down the other eight
51:14
teams. So I just have a a conference
51:16
championship player half unit on Louisville to win the
51:19
conference, 12:50 overhead. All right, now do it for this
51:23
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