Latest / Weeknight Mysteries Podcast / Ep. 102 | Australia's Most Depraved Killer & Week of Weird - Super-lewd
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It was January 1990 and backpacker Paul Onions were standing
- 0:04Speaker 1: on the Hume Highway in Liverpool, New South Wales. He
- 0:08Speaker 1: was trying to thumb a ride from any passing cars
- 0:10Speaker 1: in an attempt to get to Melbourne. Paul Onions, known
- 0:14Speaker 1: as Bunny, to his friends grew up in Willanhole in
- 0:16Speaker 1: the West Midlands of England. He joined the Royal Navy young,
- 0:21Speaker 1: but he soon grew tired of the strict routine and
- 0:23Speaker 1: he left at 23 to backpack around the world. After
- 0:27Speaker 1: visiting New Delhi and Singapore, he finally reached Australia in
- 0:31Speaker 1: December of 1989. He partied in Sydney for a few weeks,
- 0:36Speaker 1: but by late January his money was beginning to run low,
- 0:39Speaker 1: so he decided to head to Melbourne for a fruit-picking job.
- 0:43Speaker 1: He caught the bus to Liverpool and then decided to
- 0:46Speaker 1: hitchhike the rest of the journey. He stood on the
- 0:49Speaker 1: side of the road with his thumb out for about
- 0:51Speaker 1: an hour and no car stopped. Dejected, he headed into
- 0:55Speaker 1: a nearby shopping mall to get a drink. Then, Just
- 0:59Speaker 1: as he was leaving the shop, a man stopped him
- 1:02Speaker 1: and asked him where he was headed. Paul says that
- 1:05Speaker 1: he's trying to get to Melbourne. The man informs him
- 1:08Speaker 1: that he's going to Cumber and offers Paul a lift
- 1:11Speaker 1: in his silver four-wheel drive truck. Paul gladly accepts the
- 1:15Speaker 1: offer and the two men climb into the vehicle. The
- 1:18Speaker 1: man introduces himself as Bill. As they're driving along, Bill
- 1:23Speaker 1: starts to ask Paul all sorts of questions. At first,
- 1:27Speaker 1: they seem innocent enough. How long have you been in Australia?
- 1:32Speaker 1: Where do you work? But they start to get increasingly personal.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Does anyone else know you're out here? Are you meeting
- 1:40Speaker 1: up with anyone when you get there? Do you have
- 1:43Speaker 1: any special forces training? As the journey continues, Bill's behavior
- 1:48Speaker 1: gets stranger and stranger. His questions continue, but Paul starts
- 1:53Speaker 1: to hear an aggressive edge to his voice. And although
- 1:56Speaker 1: the road is deserted, Bill keeps looking in the rearview
- 1:59Speaker 1: mirror and slowing down as if looking for somewhere to
- 2:02Speaker 1: pull over. Now, Paul's starting to get really suspicious of
- 2:06Speaker 1: this guy. Something is not right about him, but he's
- 2:10Speaker 1: getting a free ride so he tries to put any
- 2:12Speaker 1: worries out of his mind and just enjoy the journey. Suddenly,
- 2:16Speaker 1: Bill pulls over close to the entrance to the Belangelo
- 2:19Speaker 1: State Forest. He says that because the radio isn't working,
- 2:24Speaker 1: he needs to grab some cassette tapes from the boots.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Paul is getting pretty weirded out at this point. There's
- 2:31Speaker 1: already plenty of tapes in the truck, so why is
- 2:33Speaker 1: Bill getting out to get more from the back? As
- 2:37Speaker 1: Bill gets out, the truck walks around to the back.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Paul decides to step out. He pretends he's just stretching
- 2:44Speaker 1: his legs, but really he's trying to keep an eye
- 2:47Speaker 1: on Bill. When Bill sees him outside the vehicle, he snaps.
- 2:52Speaker 1: He says, what are you getting out of the car for?
- 2:56Speaker 1: Get back in there. So reluctantly, Paul climbs back in
- 3:00Speaker 1: and fastens his seatbelt. At this point, Bill returns to
- 3:05Speaker 1: the driver's side door. He crouches down and reaches under
- 3:09Speaker 1: the seat as if searching for something. Then he stands
- 3:12Speaker 1: back up, holding a revolver. He points it straight at
- 3:16Speaker 1: Paul and says, Do you know what this is? This
- 3:20Speaker 1: is a robbery. He reaches under the seat a second
- 3:23Speaker 1: time and pulls out a length of rope. When Paul
- 3:27Speaker 1: sees the rope, He knows that this isn't just a
- 3:29Speaker 1: simple robbery. Something far worse is about to happen. Instinctively,
- 3:35Speaker 1: he unpuckles his seatbelt, dives out at the truck and
- 3:38Speaker 1: starts running down the road. Bill jumps out after him,
- 3:42Speaker 1: fires the revolver, but misses, and then he gives chase.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Bill catches up with him in a two-man struggle on
- 3:49Speaker 1: the roadside. He drags Paul into the scrub at the
- 3:53Speaker 1: side of the road, but Paul fights hard and he
- 3:56Speaker 1: breaks free. He sprints back under the highway, straight into
- 4:00Speaker 1: the path of an oncoming vehicle that screeches to a halt.
- 4:04Speaker 1: The driver, Joanne Berry, has her sister and four children
- 4:08Speaker 1: in the car. She's terrified, as Paul Yanks open the
- 4:12Speaker 1: door and throws himself inside. He says, please, you've got
- 4:16Speaker 1: to help me, he's got a gun. Joanne then sees
- 4:20Speaker 1: Bill emerging from the bush at the side of the road,
- 4:23Speaker 1: revolver still in his hand, and she slams the vehicle
- 4:26Speaker 1: into reverse. She drives Paul to a police station at Barrow.
- 4:31Speaker 1: He gives the police a description of the man. Tall, muscular,
- 4:36Speaker 1: brown-haired with a thick mustache. The police take his statements,
- 4:40Speaker 1: but they tell him that without a license plate number,
- 4:43Speaker 1: there's very little chance of them catching his attacker. They
- 4:47Speaker 1: give him $ 20 to get back to Sydney, and they
- 4:50Speaker 1: send him on his way. And for the while, that's
- 4:53Speaker 1: where Paul's encounter with his attacker ended. Little did they
- 4:57Speaker 1: know that Paul had just escaped from Ivan Milat, one
- 5:00Speaker 1: of Australia's most notorious serial killers, also known as the
- 5:04Speaker 1: Backpacker Mordor. Ivan Milat was born in December 1944 in Guildford,
- 5:10Speaker 1: New South Wales. His early life was one of poverty
- 5:14Speaker 1: and abuse. He was the fifth born in a family
- 5:17Speaker 1: of 14 children, the family lived in a small rural
- 5:20Speaker 1: cottage with dirt floors. His Croatian immigrant father was a
- 5:25Speaker 1: strict Catholic who ruled over the household with extreme discipline.
- 5:29Speaker 1: His father was also a raging alcoholic. He would administer
- 5:33Speaker 1: regular beatings to Ivan's mother in front of his children.
- 5:37Speaker 1: From a very young age, Ivan developed an obsession with
- 5:40Speaker 1: hunting and firearms. He was also an aggressive child. Some
- 5:46Speaker 1: family members described his early behavior as psychopathic in nature.
- 5:51Speaker 1: His criminal career started the usual way, a few petty
- 5:54Speaker 1: thefts in his early teens, which escalated to more serious
- 5:57Speaker 1: burglaries and car thefts as he got older. He spent
- 6:01Speaker 1: some time in jail in his 20s, 18 months for
- 6:04Speaker 1: breaking and entering and three years for being an accessory
- 6:07Speaker 1: to a vehicle theft. After prison, he worked for some
- 6:11Speaker 1: time as a truck driver and then he got a
- 6:13Speaker 1: job as a road maintenance worker. These jobs would make
- 6:17Speaker 1: him very familiar with the highways of New South Wales,
- 6:20Speaker 1: particularly the road that would later become his hunting ground,
- 6:23Speaker 1: Shum Highway. There were signs even in these early days
- 6:27Speaker 1: that Milat's crimes were escalating beyond simple thefts. In 1971,
- 6:33Speaker 1: Ivan Milat picked up two Australian hitchhikers, 18-year-olds Margaret Patterson
- 6:38Speaker 1: and Greta Pierce. Just like Paul Onions, they were attempting
- 6:42Speaker 1: to hitchhike from Liverpool to Melbourne and they were picked
- 6:45Speaker 1: up by Milat on the Hume Highway. Some way into
- 6:49Speaker 1: the journey, Milat suddenly drove off the highway onto a
- 6:52Speaker 1: secluded dirt road and stopped the car. He produced an
- 6:56Speaker 1: eye and threatened the women before tying them up with
- 6:58Speaker 1: the cords. He then threatened to slit their throats if
- 7:02Speaker 1: one of them didn't have sex with him. Margaret Patterson
- 7:05Speaker 1: agreed to do it if he promised to release them
- 7:07Speaker 1: afterwards and he did. After the assault Greta Pierce said
- 7:11Speaker 1: that she felt ill, so Milat drove them to a
- 7:14Speaker 1: BP service station so that she could use the toilets.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Now it sounds like he would let the women go
- 7:20Speaker 1: into the gas station one by one, keeping one of
- 7:22Speaker 1: the women in the car as the other went inside,
- 7:25Speaker 1: possibly as a way to make sure they didn't try
- 7:27Speaker 1: to call for help. But when Margaret Patterson went in,
- 7:31Speaker 1: she immediately ran to a waitress and told her what
- 7:34Speaker 1: had happened. It was then that a crowd of angry
- 7:37Speaker 1: employees and customers ran into the car park and surrounded
- 7:40Speaker 1: Milat's vehicle. He let Greta go and sped away, but
- 7:44Speaker 1: he was soon caught by police. Or at least that's
- 7:48Speaker 1: what's alleged to have happened because eventually Ivan Milat was
- 7:51Speaker 1: acquitted of the charge of abducting and assaulting the women.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Margaret and Greta had initially met as patients in a
- 7:58Speaker 1: psychiatric hospital and during the court trial their mental health
- 8:01Speaker 1: was questioned. This undermined the testimony. Ultimately the prosecution were
- 8:07Speaker 1: unable to prove that the women hadn't consented to anything
- 8:10Speaker 1: that had happened that day. And so Ivan Milat was
- 8:13Speaker 1: free to go. Years later his defense lawyer John Marsden
- 8:17Speaker 1: would express a deep regret in getting Milat acquitted. Perhaps
- 8:22Speaker 1: if he'd been sentenced then what happened next might not
- 8:24Speaker 1: have occurred. We see in this abduction a pattern Ivan
- 8:28Speaker 1: Milat would repeat again and again, stalking the Hume Highway
- 8:31Speaker 1: for backpackers, driving them to a secluded location, threatening with
- 8:35Speaker 1: a deadly weapon and restraining his victims with ropes. Most
- 8:39Speaker 1: likely this acquittal made him feel untouchable. From here his
- 8:43Speaker 1: crimes grew even bolder and more depraved. In fact by
- 8:47Speaker 1: the time he attacked Margaret and Greta he may have
- 8:50Speaker 1: already killed at least one other person. On the 26th
- 8:54Speaker 1: of February, 1971, three months before the Margaret and Greta
- 8:58Speaker 1: incidents a 20-year-old woman named Kevin Rowland went missing. Her
- 9:03Speaker 1: vehicle was discovered on Park's Way. It seemed that she'd
- 9:07Speaker 1: run out of petrol on a way to a party.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Witnesses say they saw a car pull alongside hers after
- 9:13Speaker 1: she broke down and that was the last time anyone
- 9:15Speaker 1: saw her alive. Three months later her body was found
- 9:19Speaker 1: in a pine plantation in Cumber. Fractures to a high
- 9:23Speaker 1: old bone suggested that she'd been strangled before her body
- 9:26Speaker 1: was dragged into the woods and hidden under a pile
- 9:29Speaker 1: of pine needles. Officially, Karen's killer has never been caught
- 9:33Speaker 1: and the case remains unsolved but Ivan Malat was later
- 9:36Speaker 1: considered a suspect and as we'll see a lot of
- 9:39Speaker 1: the details much Malat's other murders, particularly his method of
- 9:42Speaker 1: hiding their bodies. Through the 70s and 80s as Ivan
- 9:46Speaker 1: Malat started to build his giant collection of guns and knives,
- 9:50Speaker 1: there were dozens more hitchhikers and backpackers that went missing
- 9:53Speaker 1: in the general area of Mallat's stalking grounds. And although
- 9:57Speaker 1: it has been suggested that Mallat was involved, none of
- 10:00Speaker 1: these cases have been definitely linked to him. For example,
- 10:05Speaker 1: 18-year-old Peter Leccia, last seen alive, November 1987. He was
- 10:10Speaker 1: leaving his girlfriend's house in Sydney and he was planning
- 10:13Speaker 1: to hitchhike home. Peter's body was found in a Genelon
- 10:17Speaker 1: State Forest two months later and this was an area
- 10:20Speaker 1: where just so happened to be working as a road
- 10:22Speaker 1: surface sprayer at the time. Peter Leccia's body was lying
- 10:26Speaker 1: face down in a ditch. He was covered with branches
- 10:30Speaker 1: and leaves. He had been bound and blindfolded. And although
- 10:35Speaker 1: the body was badly decomposed, detectives were able to determine
- 10:39Speaker 1: that Peter had been stabbed multiple times in the back
- 10:41Speaker 1: before being shot five times in the head. Again, Mallat
- 10:46Speaker 1: was later a suspect in this killing but never convicted.
- 10:49Speaker 1: His first confirmed killings occurred in December of 1989. Nineteen-year-olds
- 10:55Speaker 1: Deborah Everest and James Gibson were planning to attend a
- 10:58Speaker 1: festival called Confiest in Albury. They'd crashed at a friend's
- 11:03Speaker 1: place the night before and they were planning to hitchhike
- 11:05Speaker 1: the rest of the journey. They left their friend's apartment
- 11:09Speaker 1: between 9 and 9.30 a.m. and then they just vanished.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Their bodies wouldn't be found until 1992. What we know
- 11:17Speaker 1: about their final moments had to be pieced together from
- 11:20Speaker 1: badly decomposed skeletal remains. Most likely a short time after
- 11:25Speaker 1: Deborah and James left their friend's place. They were picked
- 11:29Speaker 1: up hitchhiking by Ivan Malat. He would then have driven
- 11:33Speaker 1: them to a secluded location in the Belangelo State Forest
- 11:36Speaker 1: and then threatened them with a weapon before binding them
- 11:39Speaker 1: with restraints. It then appears he drove them further into
- 11:42Speaker 1: the forest, somewhere in the northwest corner along a dirt
- 11:46Speaker 1: track of the Morris Fire Trail. A small campfire near
- 11:50Speaker 1: to where the bodies were found suggested that Mallat spent
- 11:52Speaker 1: a considerable amount of time with the couple. And for
- 11:56Speaker 1: me this is one of the most disturbing things about
- 11:58Speaker 1: these crimes. These weren't just frenzied kills. Ivan Mallat would
- 12:04Speaker 1: take his time with his victims. Their all deals probably
- 12:08Speaker 1: lasted for hours. Deborah Everest's body was found wearing her
- 12:12Speaker 1: jeans but her bra and panties were found several meters
- 12:15Speaker 1: from the body, indicating that at some point she'd been
- 12:18Speaker 1: stripped and then redressed. One cup of a bra had
- 12:22Speaker 1: a stab mark passing through it. Her tights were found
- 12:25Speaker 1: four meters from the body. They'd been tied into two
- 12:29Speaker 1: slip nuts, likely used to hog-tie Deborah. She had two
- 12:34Speaker 1: fractures to the back of a skull behind the ear,
- 12:36Speaker 1: most likely inflicted with a rock. There was also blunt
- 12:40Speaker 1: force injury to her jaw. There were four stab wounds
- 12:44Speaker 1: to her forehead. Two on each side, they were consistent
- 12:48Speaker 1: with a hard slashing blow from a hunting knife. These
- 12:52Speaker 1: cuts had been dealt with a naff force to pass
- 12:54Speaker 1: through her flesh and chip away the bone from her skull.
- 12:58Speaker 1: She'd also been stabbed in the back, the knife passing
- 13:01Speaker 1: deep into her chest cavity and piercing the left lung.
- 13:05Speaker 1: It's impossible to say which of these wounds was fatal.
- 13:09Speaker 1: She almost certainly suffered additional injuries that left no marks
- 13:12Speaker 1: on the bone, so only the skeletal injuries could be identified.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Her cause of death was therefore recorded as multiple injuries.
- 13:21Speaker 1: James Gibson had been stabbed in the spine. This was
- 13:24Speaker 1: done with a NAF force that the blade passed through
- 13:27Speaker 1: the 4th, 5th and 6th vertebrae lengthways. This would have
- 13:31Speaker 1: paralyzed James immediately and the amount of force needed to
- 13:35Speaker 1: do that and the accuracy to stab right through bone
- 13:37Speaker 1: with one quick motion. It shows that Ivan Mallat was
- 13:41Speaker 1: incredibly strong. This spinal stabbing highlights another incredibly disturbing aspect
- 13:47Speaker 1: of his crime. It's something we'll see again and again
- 13:51Speaker 1: in his other victims. This was one of Ivan Mallat's
- 13:54Speaker 1: favorite ways to incapacitate people. He would even brag about
- 13:59Speaker 1: this technique to his friends. This is an excerpt from
- 14:02Speaker 1: a book called Sins of the Brother by Whitaker and Kennedy.
- 14:06Speaker 1: He's talking to a female acquaintance and he says, if
- 14:09Speaker 1: anybody ever grabs you, you make them a head on
- 14:12Speaker 1: a stick. What you do is you just stick a
- 14:15Speaker 1: knife down their back here. He says pointing to the
- 14:18Speaker 1: piece of spine that juts out at the base of
- 14:21Speaker 1: the neck. You put that in and they're paralyzed from
- 14:24Speaker 1: the neck down. They're alive. They know what's going on
- 14:29Speaker 1: but they can't do a thing. You do it with
- 14:31Speaker 1: a pig stabber. You know what a pig stabber is?
- 14:36Speaker 1: A hole puncture on a pocket knife. You only have
- 14:40Speaker 1: to go in that far, motioning a couple of centimeters.
- 14:43Speaker 1: You go down and in an inch. It was a
- 14:46Speaker 1: trick he said he was told about by a Vietnam vet.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Apparently one of Ivan's favorite threats was to say that
- 14:53Speaker 1: he turned someone into a head on a stick. It
- 14:56Speaker 1: seems like James Gibson had gotten the head on a
- 14:59Speaker 1: stick treatment before a lot of the other wounds were inflicted.
- 15:03Speaker 1: As well as the knife to the spine, he'd been
- 15:05Speaker 1: stabbed twice in the back on either side of the chest.
- 15:09Speaker 1: One of these stabs would have penetrated the left lung
- 15:11Speaker 1: and possibly the liver. He'd also been stabbed four times
- 15:15Speaker 1: in the front. Two stab wounds passed through the ribcage
- 15:19Speaker 1: and punched his right lung. Finally there were two stab
- 15:23Speaker 1: wounds right through his sternum into the heart. Blows that
- 15:27Speaker 1: again would have required enormous power to inflict. When he
- 15:31Speaker 1: was finally finished with them, Ivan Malat dragged the bodies
- 15:34Speaker 1: into a shallow ditch and covered them with twigs and
- 15:37Speaker 1: leaf litter. It was just one month after his murder
- 15:40Speaker 1: when Paul Onions had his encounter with Malat on the
- 15:43Speaker 1: Yume Highway. At this time the police had no idea
- 15:47Speaker 1: that the killer were stalking these parts and no bodies
- 15:49Speaker 1: had been discovered yet. And so there was very little
- 15:53Speaker 1: investigation into this sinister man who'd picked Paul up on
- 15:56Speaker 1: the side of the road. Mallat's next known killing occurred
- 16:00Speaker 1: just a few weeks later. A 21-year-old German woman named
- 16:04Speaker 1: Simone Schmidl. Simone loved to travel. During a trip to
- 16:09Speaker 1: Alaska she'd met some Australians and she'd kept in touch
- 16:12Speaker 1: with them. So in late 1990 she decided to pay
- 16:16Speaker 1: them a visit. She spent a couple of months in
- 16:19Speaker 1: Australia and she actually hitchhiked a couple of times between
- 16:22Speaker 1: Melbourne and Sydney with no problems at all. Towards the
- 16:26Speaker 1: end of January 1991 Simone got a phone call. Her
- 16:31Speaker 1: mother was going to fly into Melbourne to visit her.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Simone was in Sydney at the time and she decided
- 16:37Speaker 1: to do what she'd done before. Hitchhike. So at 8.15am
- 16:42Speaker 1: on a 20th of January Simone packed up her belongings
- 16:45Speaker 1: in a large backpack, caught the bus to Liverpool and
- 16:48Speaker 1: attempted to flag down a ride on the Hume Highway.
- 16:52Speaker 1: One witness saw Simone standing on the side of the
- 16:55Speaker 1: road at around 9am. She was carrying a heavy backpack.
- 17:00Speaker 1: When this witness drove back five minutes later she was gone.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Simone's body would not be discovered until 1993. So once
- 17:09Speaker 1: again we only have the wounds visible on her skeleton
- 17:12Speaker 1: as evidence of what was done to her. It appears
- 17:15Speaker 1: she was picked up by Ivan Milats and driven to
- 17:18Speaker 1: another secluded location along the Miner's Despair Fire Trail in
- 17:22Speaker 1: the Belangelo State Forest. She'd also got on the head
- 17:26Speaker 1: on a stick treatment. There were two wounds puncturing her spine,
- 17:30Speaker 1: one at the base of the neck and one about
- 17:32Speaker 1: halfway down her back. These wounds would have paralyzed her
- 17:36Speaker 1: instantly and she would have had trouble breathing. She'd been
- 17:39Speaker 1: stabbed an additional six times in the back, for wounds
- 17:43Speaker 1: had penetrated her left lung and it would done with
- 17:45Speaker 1: enough force to shatter her ribs. Two more on the
- 17:48Speaker 1: other side had perforated the right lung. A loop of
- 17:52Speaker 1: wire was found near her corpse, likely used to hawk
- 17:55Speaker 1: Tyson Moan before her death. Her body was dressed but
- 17:59Speaker 1: her underwear was missing and once again her body had
- 18:02Speaker 1: been dragged into a ditch and covered with sticks and leaves.
- 18:06Speaker 1: It would be several months before Ivan Milat's truck again,
- 18:09Speaker 1: at least as far as we know. 21-year-old Gabor Noygabawa
- 18:14Speaker 1: and 20-year-old Anya Habshad were a German couple who loved
- 18:17Speaker 1: to travel. They'd left Munich on the 21st of October, 1991.
- 18:23Speaker 1: They traveled to Indonesia, they wanted to see the temples
- 18:26Speaker 1: and volcanoes in Bali, Java and Lombok but one month
- 18:30Speaker 1: later after a spate of extremely bad weather they made
- 18:33Speaker 1: a spur-of-the-moment decision and caught a flight to Australia. They
- 18:37Speaker 1: arrived in Darwin on the 20th of November. They spent
- 18:41Speaker 1: another month in Australia, meeting up with other backpackers and
- 18:44Speaker 1: generally seeing the sights. Towards the end of December they
- 18:48Speaker 1: found themselves in Sydney. They attended a large party on
- 18:52Speaker 1: Bondi Beach on the 25th of December. That same day
- 18:56Speaker 1: Gabor rang home and he told his family that they
- 18:59Speaker 1: intended to travel back to Darwin for the 1st of January.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Their plan was to hitchhike most of the way there.
- 19:06Speaker 1: This was a journey of about 4,000 km. They were
- 19:10Speaker 1: last seen alive, leaving the King's Cross Hostel on the
- 19:14Speaker 1: 26th of December, 1991. Their bodies were found in the
- 19:18Speaker 1: Belangelo Forest two years later. So once again we can
- 19:23Speaker 1: only guess at some of the horrors they endured from
- 19:25Speaker 1: evidence left on extremely decomposed remains. Anya Hapshad's skeletal remains
- 19:31Speaker 1: were naked from the waist down. The only injury they
- 19:35Speaker 1: could determine from her skeleton was a clean cut that
- 19:37Speaker 1: had been made right through her neck with a sharp object.
- 19:40Speaker 1: likely a machete or a sword. Anya had been decapitated
- 19:44Speaker 1: with a single blow. The angle of the cut suggested
- 19:48Speaker 1: that Anya had been in a kneeling position at the time.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Her head bent forward, the chin pressed down onto the
- 19:54Speaker 1: chest as far as possible. Her skull has still never
- 19:58Speaker 1: been found. The remains of Gabor and Noigabawa still had
- 20:02Speaker 1: a cloth gag tied around the head, covering the mouth.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Beneath that gag they found a second cloth, identified as
- 20:10Speaker 1: a small apron or a child's dress. It was bowled
- 20:13Speaker 1: up inside the mouth, acting as a second gag. It
- 20:17Speaker 1: seems that Gabor had been bound gagged and then shot
- 20:20Speaker 1: at with a Winchester rifle. There were six separate bullet
- 20:24Speaker 1: holes in his skull, and knowing that Malat liked to
- 20:27Speaker 1: toy with his victims, it seems unlikely that this was
- 20:30Speaker 1: a quick kill. Some of the shots of Pitt have
- 20:33Speaker 1: been deliberately aimed at non-leafed parts of the head. Shot
- 20:37Speaker 1: from the left-hand side, a number of bullets had shattered
- 20:40Speaker 1: through Gabor's jaw, one bullet passing right through and exiting
- 20:43Speaker 1: out of the right cheek. Mallat had used hunting bullets
- 20:47Speaker 1: with a soft alloy, designed to expand as it passed
- 20:50Speaker 1: through flesh. Three shots have pieced the rear base of
- 20:54Speaker 1: the skull, passing through the brain. Probably known as Gabor
- 20:58Speaker 1: lay face down on the ground. Detectives also found that
- 21:02Speaker 1: Gabor's hyoid bone was fractured, an injury consistent with strangulation
- 21:06Speaker 1: or a very hard kick to the neck. About 60
- 21:10Speaker 1: meters from the bodies, detectives found a tangled collection of
- 21:13Speaker 1: cable ties, cords, electrical tape and a brown leather strap.
- 21:18Speaker 1: The tape had been formed into two loops that resembled handcuffs.
- 21:23Speaker 1: The leather strap appeared to have been used as a leash.
- 21:26Speaker 1: There were clear signs that the struggle had taken place
- 21:29Speaker 1: at this spot. They also found a human finger bone
- 21:32Speaker 1: in this area. belonging to Anya. Either this had been
- 21:36Speaker 1: scavenged by an animal and carried back to the spot,
- 21:39Speaker 1: or Ivan Malat had deliberately cut off her finger as
- 21:42Speaker 1: a form of torture. In a second location, about 165
- 21:47Speaker 1: meters from the bodies, police found Anya's jeans and 90
- 21:51Speaker 1: spent cartridge cases. Someone had spent a long time there
- 21:55Speaker 1: firing a weapon. It's easy to picture, Anya and Gabor
- 21:59Speaker 1: lying restrained whilst Ivan Malat stands over them firing round
- 22:03Speaker 1: after round into the bush. They must have been terrified.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Detectives concluded that the pair had been held and tortured
- 22:10Speaker 1: in this area, and then their bodies were dragged into
- 22:13Speaker 1: two shallow ditches and covered with piles of leaves and sticks.
- 22:18Speaker 1: In a space of two years, Ivan Malat had killed
- 22:21Speaker 1: at least five people, and yet by the end of
- 22:23Speaker 1: 1991 none of the bodies had been found. The families
- 22:27Speaker 1: of the missing people were of course deeply distressed. Police
- 22:31Speaker 1: were treating these cases as missing persons investigations, but there
- 22:35Speaker 1: wasn't much they could do. These were backpackers who'd vanished
- 22:39Speaker 1: somewhere along a journey that covered thousands of kilometers. Dozens
- 22:44Speaker 1: of people were reported missing during the same period. Backpackers
- 22:48Speaker 1: just disappeared and reappeared all at time. Most of them
- 22:52Speaker 1: turning up again within a few weeks, so at this
- 22:55Speaker 1: stage there was nothing to suggest that they'd been murdered
- 22:57Speaker 1: or that there was a serial killer at work. It
- 23:00Speaker 1: probably made Ivan Malat feel even more invincible. To him
- 23:05Speaker 1: he'd got away with killing multiple people. A few months
- 23:09Speaker 1: later he would kill again. 22-year-old Joanne Walters and 21-year-old
- 23:14Speaker 1: Caroline Clark were British backpackers that had met in Australia
- 23:17Speaker 1: last on a work visa. They'd spent several months traveling
- 23:21Speaker 1: around the country doing various jobs, factory work, fruit picking, waitressing,
- 23:27Speaker 1: that sort of thing. By April of 1992, they were
- 23:31Speaker 1: staying at a hostel in Kings Cross, Sydney. On the
- 23:35Speaker 1: 16th of April both women phoned their families back home
- 23:38Speaker 1: and told of their plans to travel south. On the
- 23:41Speaker 1: 18th of April, they spoke to a fellow backpacker named
- 23:44Speaker 1: Steve Wright. They told him that they were going to
- 23:47Speaker 1: take the train to Liverpool and then hitchhike as far
- 23:50Speaker 1: as Victoria where they planned to get another fruit-picking job.
- 23:54Speaker 1: The last possible sighting of these women was on the
- 23:57Speaker 1: 21st of April. Friends, Susan Burns and Maima Honeyman claimed
- 24:02Speaker 1: that they picked up two women hitchhiking and dropped them
- 24:04Speaker 1: off at the service station at Bullypurse. They said that
- 24:08Speaker 1: the women had asked for directions to the Hume Highway.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Some weeks later when photographs of the missing women appeared
- 24:15Speaker 1: on TV, Burns and Honeyman recognized them as the women
- 24:18Speaker 1: they'd given a lift to and contacted the police. The
- 24:22Speaker 1: bodies of John Walters and Caroline Clark were found five
- 24:25Speaker 1: months later in September of 1992. Although they were bodily decomposed,
- 24:31Speaker 1: there were still enough flesh and texts to determine a
- 24:34Speaker 1: bit more about the horrors inflicted on them before they died.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Milet had picked up the women on a Hume Highway,
- 24:40Speaker 1: likely a short time after they were dropped off at
- 24:43Speaker 1: Bully Purse. He had taken them to a secluded location
- 24:47Speaker 1: in Belanglo Forest just off the Longgate Creek Fire Trail.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Near to the bodies, detectives found an area of trampled
- 24:54Speaker 1: and snapped shrubs where some kind of struggle had clearly
- 24:57Speaker 1: taken place. In this area they also found six cigarette
- 25:01Speaker 1: butts of a brand that Caroline Clark was known to smoke.
- 25:05Speaker 1: They also found a number of spent Winchester cartridge cases.
- 25:10Speaker 1: A makeshift fireplace constructed from broken house bricks was discovered
- 25:14Speaker 1: under a rocky outcrop. Once again, Milet had spent a
- 25:18Speaker 1: long time here with the women. John Walters was found
- 25:22Speaker 1: dressed but her underwear was missing. There were dark hairs
- 25:25Speaker 1: clutched in her right hand so clearly she'd attempted to
- 25:28Speaker 1: fight back at some point. She had the remains of
- 25:32Speaker 1: a gag and her ligature still tied around her neck.
- 25:35Speaker 1: At some point during the struggle she'd been stabbed twice
- 25:38Speaker 1: in the spines, causing instant paralysis. Then she'd been stabbed
- 25:43Speaker 1: a further ten times, seemingly ear-friendly, seven stabs to the back,
- 25:48Speaker 1: then she'd been rolled over and stabbed twice in the
- 25:50Speaker 1: chest and once in the neck. Many of the wounds
- 25:53Speaker 1: had penetrated the ribcage. She had internal damage to her lungs,
- 25:58Speaker 1: a softener, trachea, and larynx. Caroline Clark's head had been
- 26:03Speaker 1: wrapped in a cloth and then seemingly Milet had used
- 26:06Speaker 1: her as target practice. There were ten separate bullet wounds
- 26:10Speaker 1: in her skull. From the angle of the entry wounds
- 26:13Speaker 1: it seemed as if her head had been moved several
- 26:16Speaker 1: times between shots, meaning that Milet would shoot her, then
- 26:19Speaker 1: move her to a different position, shoot her again and
- 26:22Speaker 1: so on. There was one visible stab wound below her
- 26:26Speaker 1: right shoulder blade and there may have been more inflicted
- 26:28Speaker 1: before she died. Her body was more exposed and therefore
- 26:33Speaker 1: more decayed than John's so it was difficult to determine
- 26:35Speaker 1: the full extent of her injuries. On the 19th of September, 1992,
- 26:41Speaker 1: hikers were walking along the Longgate Creek Fire Trail when
- 26:44Speaker 1: they were drawn by a foul order to something that
- 26:46Speaker 1: was wedged beneath a rocky outcrop. It was hidden under
- 26:50Speaker 1: a pile of sticks and at first they thought it
- 26:52Speaker 1: might be kangaroo remains, but on closer inspection they saw
- 26:56Speaker 1: that it was the body of John Walters. The police
- 26:59Speaker 1: were called and the area was searched. The following day
- 27:03Speaker 1: they found the body of Caroline Clark. John's body had
- 27:07Speaker 1: been placed under a rock overhang and then deliberately covered
- 27:10Speaker 1: with a layer of sticks and leaf litter. Caroline's body
- 27:14Speaker 1: was wedged against a fallen gum tori and similarly concealed
- 27:17Speaker 1: between branches and twigs. Over the following week around 40
- 27:22Speaker 1: police searched their 300-meter radius around the crime scene and
- 27:25Speaker 1: several kilometers along the fire trail, but they found nothing more.
- 27:30Speaker 1: There was intense media coverage and a flood of tip-offs
- 27:33Speaker 1: and claim sightings, but by the end of it the
- 27:35Speaker 1: police had no solid leads. By November, with the investigators
- 27:40Speaker 1: no further towards catching the killer, a $ 100, 000 reward was
- 27:44Speaker 1: offered for anyone with information that might lead to this killer.
- 27:48Speaker 1: Forensic work and offender profiling continued, but by Christmas of
- 27:52Speaker 1: 1992 they still had no strong suspects and the investigation stalled.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Then on 5 October 1993, 13 months after the first
- 27:59Speaker 1: bodies were found, a hiker named Bruce Pryor discovered the
- 28:06Speaker 1: skeletal remains of Deborah Everest and James Gibson. This prompted
- 28:10Speaker 1: the formation of a special task force headed by Superintendent
- 28:13Speaker 1: Clive Small. A large-scale search covering about 24 square kilometers
- 28:19Speaker 1: was undertaken. Hundreds of police officers were involved and they
- 28:23Speaker 1: used cadaver dogs, metal detectors, and GPS mapping to help them.
- 28:28Speaker 1: By the 1st of November, they'd found the remains of
- 28:31Speaker 1: Simone Schmidl. Three days later, they dunk-covered the bodies of
- 28:36Speaker 1: Gabon Nogaboa and Anya Habshide. With this discovery of seven bodies,
- 28:41Speaker 1: the task force was expanded even more. Detectives worked with
- 28:46Speaker 1: the team of intelligence analysts and forensic experts. They were
- 28:50Speaker 1: working day and night to try and catch the killer.
- 28:54Speaker 1: They established a strict media protocol and they set up
- 28:57Speaker 1: a dedicated hotline to handle to buffs from the public.
- 29:01Speaker 1: A profile of the killer started to be built. They
- 29:04Speaker 1: knew it must be a local man who was into hunting.
- 29:08Speaker 1: He must be driving a four-wheel drive vehicle and have
- 29:10Speaker 1: extensive knowledge of the Belangelo State Forest. Slowly, the police
- 29:15Speaker 1: began to whittle down a list of suspects. Then a
- 29:19Speaker 1: series of tabuffs shortened that list even further. A woman
- 29:23Speaker 1: called the tabuff line. She said that she was suspicious
- 29:27Speaker 1: of a man who lived on her streets. He drove
- 29:30Speaker 1: a four-wheel drive. He had a huge collection of guns
- 29:34Speaker 1: and he was heavily into hunting. This man's name was
- 29:38Speaker 1: Ivan Melath. Around the same time investigators received a call
- 29:42Speaker 1: from co-workers of Richard Melat. Ivan's brother, Richard Melat, also
- 29:48Speaker 1: worked in road construction. They claimed that over the years
- 29:52Speaker 1: Richard Melat had made a number of sinister remarks about
- 29:54Speaker 1: missing backpackers. In fact, He'd specifically mentioned German backpackers and
- 30:00Speaker 1: this was before the bodies of the German backpackers were found.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Now I will come back to this later. There's something
- 30:07Speaker 1: about Ivan Melat's brothers. It's pretty interesting. There is a
- 30:13Speaker 1: theory that Ivan Melat didn't act alone. But for now,
- 30:17Speaker 1: just know that the Tabuffs brought heavy attention on the
- 30:19Speaker 1: Melat family and mainly on Ivan Melat. By February of 1994,
- 30:25Speaker 1: investigators were fairly certain that Ivan Melat was their man,
- 30:29Speaker 1: but they needed more evidence. Melat was placed under surveillance.
- 30:34Speaker 1: They also decided to take another look at the Paul
- 30:37Speaker 1: Onions case. Onions was flown back to Australia and he
- 30:41Speaker 1: was asked to identify his attacker from a photo board
- 30:44Speaker 1: containing 13 photographs of possible suspects. Paul positively identified Ivan
- 30:50Speaker 1: Melat as the man that has attempted to abduct him. So,
- 30:54Speaker 1: on a 22nd of May, armed police conducted raids on
- 30:57Speaker 1: various properties owned by members of the Melat family. In
- 31:02Speaker 1: Ivan Melat's home, they discovered what was described as an
- 31:05Speaker 1: Aladdin's cave of items belonging to the dead backpackers, trophies
- 31:08Speaker 1: from Ivan Melat's kills. Deborah Ever's green sleeping bag was
- 31:13Speaker 1: found at Ivan's home. An identical sleeping bag, likely James Gibson's,
- 31:19Speaker 1: was found at Ivan's brother William Melat's property. The contents
- 31:23Speaker 1: of Simone Schmidl's backpack was found in Ivan's house, including
- 31:27Speaker 1: a green water bottle with the name Simi scratched into it.
- 31:31Speaker 1: They found Indonesian currency, thought of belonged to Gabon, Neugebauer
- 31:35Speaker 1: and Anjia Habshad, and electrical tape that matched the restraints
- 31:39Speaker 1: found at their crime scene. Of Caroline Clark and Johan Walters,
- 31:44Speaker 1: they found tents, sleeping bags and a 35mm camera as
- 31:48Speaker 1: well as items of clothing. Disturbingly, they found photos of
- 31:53Speaker 1: Ivan Melat's girlfriend wearing what looked like one of Caroline
- 31:56Speaker 1: Clark's tops. It seems he dressed his girlfriend in the
- 31:59Speaker 1: clothing of his murder victims. Ivan Melat was arrested and
- 32:04Speaker 1: charged with seven counts of murder, plus the armed abduction
- 32:07Speaker 1: of Paul Onions. In order for Melat to stand trial,
- 32:11Speaker 1: the Director of Public Prosecutions had to assemble one of
- 32:14Speaker 1: the largest, the most complicated murder briefs in Australian legal
- 32:18Speaker 1: history at the time. There was a huge amount of
- 32:21Speaker 1: evidence to come through. There were multiple crime scenes and
- 32:25Speaker 1: many expert witnesses needed to be gathered. This process would
- 32:29Speaker 1: take 22 months, but finally, on the 11th of March, 1996,
- 32:33Speaker 1: the trial of Ivan Melat began at the New South
- 32:37Speaker 1: Wales Supreme Court. Ivan pled not guilty, and he maintained
- 32:41Speaker 1: his innocence throughout the trial. His defense attempted to shift
- 32:46Speaker 1: the blame onto Ivan's brothers, Richard and Walter. Ultimately though,
- 32:51Speaker 1: the evidence against Ivan Melat was just too strong, so
- 32:54Speaker 1: on July 27, 1996, he was found guilty on all
- 32:59Speaker 1: seven counts of murder and for the abduction of Paul Onions.
- 33:03Speaker 1: He was sentenced to seven consecutive life sentences for the murders,
- 33:07Speaker 1: plus six years for the abduction. And so that was that.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Ivan Melat was finally behind bars, but did he act alone?
- 33:16Speaker 1: That is something we'll probably never know for sure. but
- 33:19Speaker 1: there are some strange things about this case that have
- 33:21Speaker 1: made people question whether or not he did have help.
- 33:25Speaker 1: There's the fact that he often abducted people in pairs.
- 33:29Speaker 1: It would be pretty difficult for a single person to
- 33:31Speaker 1: overpower two others. There was also spent bullet casings recovered
- 33:36Speaker 1: from the crime scenes that showed that two different guns
- 33:38Speaker 1: had been used. Ivan was a bit of a gun nut,
- 33:42Speaker 1: so it is possible he just had two guns that
- 33:44Speaker 1: he was firing off at the time. There was also
- 33:48Speaker 1: cigarette butts and empty beer bottles found at many crime scenes,
- 33:52Speaker 1: but Ivan Melat didn't smoke, and he wasn't a heavy drinker.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Was he just letting his victims smoke and drink before
- 33:58Speaker 1: he killed them? Or was there somebody else there with him?
- 34:03Speaker 1: There's also the fact that the methods of killing each
- 34:05Speaker 1: person was pretty varied. Some had been shot, others stabbed,
- 34:10Speaker 1: some had been killed in what looked like a mad
- 34:12Speaker 1: frenzy and others in a slow deliberate manner. Some experts
- 34:16Speaker 1: suggested that this showed two different styles or personalities at
- 34:20Speaker 1: work in the murders. Early police profiling did consider the
- 34:24Speaker 1: possibility that there were two killers, and it was thought
- 34:27Speaker 1: that it would possibly be brothers. As previously mentioned, Ivan's
- 34:31Speaker 1: brother Richard had made strange comments to his co-worker specifically
- 34:35Speaker 1: mentioning German girls before the murders were on COVID. Now,
- 34:39Speaker 1: there's possible he was just being a bit edgy. There
- 34:42Speaker 1: would have been a lot of news coverage about the
- 34:44Speaker 1: missing German women before their bodies were found, so it's
- 34:48Speaker 1: not outside the realm of possibility that he was just
- 34:50Speaker 1: making dark jokes without being involved, but it is very strange.
- 34:55Speaker 1: There's also the fact that items belonging to the murdered
- 34:57Speaker 1: backpackers were found at the homes of two of Ivan's
- 35:00Speaker 1: brothers Richard and Walter. Could it be that Ivan gave
- 35:04Speaker 1: them these items to hide? Or maybe he was trying
- 35:07Speaker 1: to shift the blame onto them. Who knows? But there
- 35:12Speaker 1: is a third brother, Alex Mallatz, who also had items
- 35:15Speaker 1: belonging to the murder victims. I hadn't mentioned him yet
- 35:19Speaker 1: because I think this needs its own section, but it
- 35:21Speaker 1: is a bit weird. So in October of 1993, Alex
- 35:26Speaker 1: Mallatz contacted the police and said that he'd witnessed something
- 35:29Speaker 1: very unusual in the Belangelo Forest. Apparently this had occurred
- 35:34Speaker 1: in April of 1992, around the same time Caroline Clark
- 35:38Speaker 1: and Joanne Walters went missing. He says that he saw
- 35:41Speaker 1: two vehicles containing about seven men and two women enter
- 35:45Speaker 1: the forest. He said that the women had been bound
- 35:48Speaker 1: and gagged and they looked terrified. He told the police
- 35:52Speaker 1: that the men were driving a brown Ford Falcon and
- 35:54Speaker 1: a brown four-wheel drive of some sort. He said that
- 35:58Speaker 1: the men had rifles and the one man he got
- 36:00Speaker 1: a clear look at was clean-shaven, well-dressed and had neatly
- 36:03Speaker 1: trimmed hair. He claimed that he didn't call a police
- 36:07Speaker 1: at the time because he thought they might just be
- 36:09Speaker 1: having a party or something but after the bodies of
- 36:11Speaker 1: Clark and Walters were found, he thought it might have
- 36:14Speaker 1: something to do with it. The police didn't really believe
- 36:17Speaker 1: his story. They took his statement and they looked into
- 36:21Speaker 1: it but there was just something off about it that
- 36:23Speaker 1: made them suspicious. Alex Malat's report actually prompted the police
- 36:28Speaker 1: to look into the Malat family in the first place.
- 36:31Speaker 1: They thought his story might be an attempt to throw
- 36:34Speaker 1: them off the trail and it is suspicious. He describes
- 36:37Speaker 1: a clean-cut man, almost a polar opposite of Ivan Malat's
- 36:41Speaker 1: appearance and two brown vehicles, one a Ford Falcon, Malat
- 36:45Speaker 1: drove a silver niche and patrol. If you were trying
- 36:48Speaker 1: to throw the police off the trail, you would describe
- 36:51Speaker 1: something very different to what actually took place. So either
- 36:55Speaker 1: Alex Mallat did see something which means there might be
- 36:58Speaker 1: a whole gang of men involved in these crimes or
- 37:00Speaker 1: he knew something about the murders and was trying to
- 37:02Speaker 1: protect his family. Also when police started seriously looking into
- 37:07Speaker 1: Ivan Mallat, Alex was questioned again. His wife mentioned a
- 37:11Speaker 1: backpack that Ivan had given him as a gift. It
- 37:15Speaker 1: turned out to be Simone Schmittl's backpack. This whole thing
- 37:19Speaker 1: with the brothers is very strange. They had items belonging
- 37:23Speaker 1: to murder victims. They made jokes that appeared to show
- 37:26Speaker 1: knowledge of the killings and maybe they even gave four
- 37:28Speaker 1: statements to misdirect the investigators. It seems to me that
- 37:33Speaker 1: at the very least they might have suspected that Ivan
- 37:35Speaker 1: Malat was behind the murders. Whether or not they actually
- 37:39Speaker 1: took part in the killings has never been proven but
- 37:41Speaker 1: many people suspect that they did. Another element of the
- 37:45Speaker 1: accomplished theory is the deathbed confession of John Marsden. Marsden
- 37:50Speaker 1: was the lawyer who defended Ivan Malat when he was
- 37:53Speaker 1: accused of abducting and assaulting Margaret Patterson and Greta Pierce.
- 37:57Speaker 1: In 2003 John Marsden gave an interview where he said
- 38:00Speaker 1: that he thought that Ivan Malat did have an accomplice
- 38:03Speaker 1: but it wasn't one of his brothers, it was Ivan's
- 38:05Speaker 1: sister Shirley. Now this confession was never taken too seriously.
- 38:11Speaker 1: John Marsden never had anything to do with the murder
- 38:14Speaker 1: trials and he never had any evidence for his claim.
- 38:17Speaker 1: He just said it was a gut feeling he had.
- 38:20Speaker 1: That means said if Mallat did have a woman helping
- 38:23Speaker 1: him it would explain why he was able to lure
- 38:25Speaker 1: people away so easily. A woman's presence in the vehicle
- 38:29Speaker 1: could have made hitchhikers feel safer in accepting a lift.
- 38:33Speaker 1: But despite the theories police have always maintained that Ivan
- 38:36Speaker 1: Mallat acted on his own. Those who survived Mallat reported
- 38:41Speaker 1: seeing just one man. No DNA or fingerprints recovered from
- 38:45Speaker 1: the crime scene has ever been linked to anyone other
- 38:48Speaker 1: than Ivan Mallat and his victims. In the absence of
- 38:51Speaker 1: any forensic or eyewitness evidence pointing to a second defender
- 38:55Speaker 1: the official conclusion remains that he carried out the murders
- 38:58Speaker 1: all by himself. Ivan Malat spent the rest of his
- 39:01Speaker 1: life behind bars. On the 17th of October, 2019 at
- 39:06Speaker 1: the age of 74 he died after a short battle
- 39:07Speaker 1: with a Before the murders hitchhiking was a fairly normal
- 39:19Speaker 1: part of the Australian backpacker experience. Cheap social, a way
- 39:24Speaker 1: for young travellers to meet the real locals on the
- 39:27Speaker 1: open road. Within a few years the calm sight of
- 39:30Speaker 1: people trying to thaw my lift along the major highways
- 39:33Speaker 1: had all but disappeared. A new sense of danger had
- 39:37Speaker 1: permeated the backpacker culture. And so that's the story of
- 39:41Speaker 1: Ivan Mallat and the backpacker murders. I hope you found
- 39:45Speaker 1: it interesting. There are a few other things I could
- 39:48Speaker 1: go into. There are some people that believe that Ivan
- 39:52Speaker 1: Malat was completely innocent and he was just a scapegoat
- 39:55Speaker 1: that police wanted to catch somebody and so they planted
- 39:57Speaker 1: evidence and blamed Ivan Malat. I'm personally not sure how
- 40:01Speaker 1: much I believe these theories but it is what some
- 40:04Speaker 1: people think. Anyway, thank you very much to the patrons
- 40:08Speaker 1: for the support. I've got loads of recordings on there.
- 40:12Speaker 1: There'll be something else to take interest definitely. Otherwise keep
- 40:17Speaker 1: an eye out for me in your recommended recordings. Now
- 40:20Speaker 1: you've watched this hopefully the algorithm features some more. Hello
- 40:25Speaker 1: and welcome to episode 2 of Week of Weird. The
- 40:29Speaker 1: weekly roundup of the strangest news stories from around the world.
- 40:33Speaker 1: First off, I'd just like to apologize for the lack
- 40:36Speaker 1: of uploads this week. I only really got round to
- 40:40Speaker 1: making one video. That's because I was stricken by a
- 40:43Speaker 1: terrible cold at the beginning of the week. Obviously I
- 40:47Speaker 1: know too much and the government are trying to silence
- 40:50Speaker 1: me with the flu. Anyway, let's go on with the
- 40:53Speaker 1: news stories. We're going to start off with a high
- 40:57Speaker 1: quality publication here, The Daily Star, Boris Johnson unmasked as
- 41:01Speaker 1: time traveling prostitute. Conspiracy theorists may have found proof Boris
- 41:06Speaker 1: Johnson is the time traveling cross-dressing prostitute. Now I know
- 41:11Speaker 1: I have a lot of viewers outside the UK so
- 41:13Speaker 1: if you don't know who Boris Johnson is, he's the
- 41:16Speaker 1: former mayor of London. He's a conservative politician and if
- 41:20Speaker 1: you've ever seen him on TV, this news that he's
- 41:23Speaker 1: a time-travelling prostitute will come as no surprise whatsoever. So
- 41:27Speaker 1: here we go, spot the difference. Boris Johnson left and
- 41:31Speaker 1: time-travelling prostitute writes, oh I see what you've done there.
- 41:36Speaker 1: I've got to admit though, it's uncanny, it really is.
- 41:40Speaker 1: So here we go, a historic early photograph of a
- 41:43Speaker 1: person in stockings and heels has emerged and people are
- 41:46Speaker 1: convinced it's the mayor of London and there's disagreement of
- 41:49Speaker 1: whether it's a handsome woman or a cross-dressing man. Well
- 41:53Speaker 1: obviously it's a cross-dressing man because that is Boris Johnson.
- 41:58Speaker 1: You tell it's one of their articles where they haven't
- 42:00Speaker 1: got much to say because they just fill it with
- 42:02Speaker 1: gigantic pictures of Boris Johnson. I mean they don't need
- 42:06Speaker 1: to say anything really, the evidence speaks for itself. There
- 42:10Speaker 1: you go, Boris Johnson time-traveling prostitute. They end with that
- 42:15Speaker 1: suggests that the Tory big beast is more than 120
- 42:18Speaker 1: years old immortal or possibly capable of time travel. Okay,
- 42:23Speaker 1: on to the next story. You must have been a
- 42:25Speaker 1: slow news day for the Malaysian Digest. It's video, an
- 42:30Speaker 1: Indian man has Magneto's powers for real and there's pictures,
- 42:34Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen meet the real-life Magneto who lives in India.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Okay this is, I don't know if I'm saying his
- 42:41Speaker 1: name right, Aaron Nightwar, and apparently he's got supernatural powers,
- 42:45Speaker 1: I'm going to have a look. So he can stick
- 42:48Speaker 1: spoons to himself as long as he's leaning back slightly.
- 42:52Speaker 1: The article asks the question so is he really superhuman?
- 42:56Speaker 1: Obviously he is, look at this photograph. What's that six
- 43:00Speaker 1: hole spoon stuck to his chest? Why isn't he out
- 43:04Speaker 1: there solving crimes already? I don't know. Aaron claims he
- 43:09Speaker 1: has no clue how it happened but his ability a
- 43:11Speaker 1: few months ago when a nail stuck to his body
- 43:14Speaker 1: whilst doing household chores. There he is, all these nails
- 43:18Speaker 1: stuck to his chest, all of them. I can't even
- 43:22Speaker 1: count them all. He got a few more quotes from
- 43:25Speaker 1: the man himself. I don't even want to know this
- 43:28Speaker 1: is not something I am proud of but when people
- 43:30Speaker 1: come to see my magnetic powers it feels good. He
- 43:34Speaker 1: looks proud. He says he's not proud but he looks proud,
- 43:38Speaker 1: doesn't he? This is the first time when something so
- 43:42Speaker 1: bizarre has happened with my body. Initially I was scared
- 43:46Speaker 1: but now I've gotten used to it. He told the
- 43:49Speaker 1: Mail Online. It says although his magnetism has gone as
- 43:53Speaker 1: attention that both the Indian and international media have done them.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Magnet man, amazing human and superhuman. Aaron is saddened to
- 44:02Speaker 1: both such magnetic powers in his body. I don't want
- 44:06Speaker 1: these powers to be honest. I want a normal life.
- 44:11Speaker 1: If this stays for too long I will become a
- 44:13Speaker 1: public spectacle. I don't want that to happen. My advice
- 44:18Speaker 1: to this man would be if you don't want to
- 44:20Speaker 1: be a public spectacle don't agree to have yourself videoed
- 44:23Speaker 1: and photographed with spoons and nails sticking to your chest
- 44:25Speaker 1: in that manner. Just a bit of advice but anyway
- 44:29Speaker 1: I wish him well. I hope he goes on to
- 44:32Speaker 1: have a very successful life with his new phone powers.
- 44:36Speaker 1: On to the next story. Okay on on to a
- 44:39Speaker 1: story that I actually experienced myself. It was Monday night.
- 44:44Speaker 1: There was this extremely loud noise like a whole fleet
- 44:47Speaker 1: of planes flying right over the roof of my house
- 44:49Speaker 1: and I only found out later it was REF typhoons
- 44:52Speaker 1: being scrambled. The official story was that there was a
- 44:56Speaker 1: flight that needed guiding and coming from Paris to Newcastle
- 44:59Speaker 1: I think it was but luckily the mirror has the
- 45:01Speaker 1: real story. Here we go. The headline is two terrifying
- 45:06Speaker 1: sonic booms that shook houses were caused by REF typhoons
- 45:10Speaker 1: responding to UFO. I didn't hear any sonic booms. I
- 45:15Speaker 1: lived quite close to Newcastle and all I heard was
- 45:18Speaker 1: the like a say a roaring of engines. Extremely loud
- 45:22Speaker 1: engines going overhead. Conspiracy theorists claim that two REF typhoons
- 45:27Speaker 1: were scrambled to shoot down a UFO. There's a video here.
- 45:33Speaker 1: I don't know if I can make it any better.
- 45:35Speaker 1: He's never seen to play when I try to play.
- 45:38Speaker 1: To be honest that video is not too impressive but
- 45:41Speaker 1: anyway at least they tried. So panicked members of the
- 45:45Speaker 1: public heard deafening explosions over the sky in West and
- 45:48Speaker 1: South Yorkshire on Monday. The aircraft were sent to escort
- 45:52Speaker 1: an Air France flight from Paris to Newcastle after reports
- 45:56Speaker 1: of the plane being unresponsive. But the website what does
- 45:59Speaker 1: it mean claims that planes were actually scrambled to intercept
- 46:02Speaker 1: the UFO that rose from the sea and that's the
- 46:05Speaker 1: true story of what happened here. Writer Sarchif. Why did
- 46:10Speaker 1: he just put these names in that I can't pronounce?
- 46:13Speaker 1: Sarchif Falls said an extraordinary Minister of Defence report circulating
- 46:17Speaker 1: in the Kremlin states that the squadron of Eurofighter Typhoon
- 46:20Speaker 1: fighter aircraft were the cause of a mass panic event
- 46:23Speaker 1: that occurred in northern England after these planes were scrambled
- 46:26Speaker 1: to intercept a mysterious object that had risen out of
- 46:28Speaker 1: the sea. When met by these fighter aircraft it was
- 46:32Speaker 1: fired upon by them, causing it to then disappear forward
- 46:35Speaker 1: slash realign. Now this is a Mon artist impression here,
- 46:40Speaker 1: don't get excited that's not a real photograph of a UFO.
- 46:44Speaker 1: That's just what the Daily Mirror imagined it would look like.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Fall also asserts the Ministry of Defense banned newspapers from
- 46:51Speaker 1: reporting on the truth behind the incident and inventing the
- 46:54Speaker 1: Air France story. If the Daily Mirror gets mysteriously shut
- 46:58Speaker 1: down or the author of this piece Roof Hull can
- 47:00Speaker 1: get assassinated in the next few days, we'll know why.
- 47:04Speaker 1: And then there's a few tweets from people in the
- 47:07Speaker 1: Leeds in Yorkshire area being confused by loud noises in
- 47:10Speaker 1: the sky. To be honest, I've been to these areas
- 47:13Speaker 1: and people there they probably think it's some kind of
- 47:16Speaker 1: sky god. At the bottom of the article they got
- 47:19Speaker 1: some typical disinformation from the RAF saying it was too
- 47:22Speaker 1: typhoon yet, it's just a launch to check upon a
- 47:25Speaker 1: plane heading for Newcastle airport that went off course. That's
- 47:29Speaker 1: a likely story isn't it? Yeah nice trite RAF. Does
- 47:34Speaker 1: this look like an airplane to you? I don't think so. Anyway,
- 47:39Speaker 1: let's go on to another article from the Mirror. Cat
- 47:43Speaker 1: with three tails leaves people baffled as fascinating footage about
- 47:46Speaker 1: radiation theory. Let's have a look. Here's the cat with
- 47:51Speaker 1: three tails apparently. I can see two here. It's enlarged
- 47:56Speaker 1: the recording so we can see a bit better. I
- 47:59Speaker 1: don't know where the third one is. The recording is
- 48:03Speaker 1: really bad quality so it's hard to see three tails.
- 48:07Speaker 1: I only counted two conclusively but who knows if the
- 48:10Speaker 1: daily mirror says is three there's definitely three tails. Yeah
- 48:14Speaker 1: but this bizarre footage appears to show a count with
- 48:17Speaker 1: three tails casually wandering around a garden. It was shot
- 48:21Speaker 1: by a housewife who insists that she has seen the
- 48:23Speaker 1: three-tailed muggy many times before and it is no joke. Ah,
- 48:28Speaker 1: it's a vet Lana Byriuk says this is what she
- 48:30Speaker 1: was saying in the recording. You don't believe it. This
- 48:35Speaker 1: cat has got three tails. There's a still picture but
- 48:38Speaker 1: again I can't see three tails. I can see definitely
- 48:43Speaker 1: one hanging down here and this one sticking up cat's expression.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Pretty pleased with to himself. I'm not so apparently commentators
- 48:51Speaker 1: on the recordings don't believe it. Drown reload. Anyway there
- 48:56Speaker 1: we go. There's a cat with three tails for you.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Not much to say about that really. It's gone to
- 49:04Speaker 1: the next one. yet another one from the Daily Mirror.
- 49:09Speaker 1: This one was sent to me by my friend Matt.
- 49:12Speaker 1: It says possessed man due to violently as ghostly reflection
- 49:15Speaker 1: appears in shop fridge and items move inexplicably and it
- 49:18Speaker 1: is a warning, distress. scenes towards the end of the
- 49:22Speaker 1: footage the man appears to point at toilet rolls which
- 49:25Speaker 1: swiftly topple over on their own i can imagine how
- 49:29Speaker 1: that would be distressing disease let's have a look okay
- 49:34Speaker 1: here it comes it's going for something in the fridge
- 49:38Speaker 1: He kind of looks like he's going I could not
- 49:40Speaker 1: believe the price of this thing. It's pulling down his
- 49:44Speaker 1: pants as well by the looks of it I don't know.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any sounds because I've got
- 49:49Speaker 1: my sound turned off on my computer. On a point
- 49:52Speaker 1: in that the toilet rolls are going to fall over.
- 49:55Speaker 1: As I'm pointing at the fridge its reflection moves and
- 49:58Speaker 1: then there we go. There's the money shot to the
- 50:01Speaker 1: toilet rolls falling over. So that's the recording and I
- 50:05Speaker 1: don't know what to think of that really very strange.
- 50:09Speaker 1: The man was said to be possessed by a demon
- 50:11Speaker 1: and then it just goes on to tell us exactly
- 50:13Speaker 1: what we've just watched. You even know we've just watched it.
- 50:18Speaker 1: He's tugging at his t-shirt and shaking his head. It
- 50:22Speaker 1: says as he falls to the floor and lays still
- 50:24Speaker 1: the reflection of a ghostly figure seen drifting in the
- 50:27Speaker 1: fridge door. Despite there not being anyone else in front
- 50:30Speaker 1: of it and then the toilet rolls fall from the shelves.
- 50:34Speaker 1: That definitely did happen I saw that. Recorded in the
- 50:38Speaker 1: supermarket in Malaysia and that's it. That's all it says.
- 50:43Speaker 1: It's got a few responses from people who watched the
- 50:45Speaker 1: recording as if we care about what they had to
- 50:47Speaker 1: say and it says it's unclear what happens to the
- 50:50Speaker 1: man after the footage could. So let's have a look.
- 50:54Speaker 1: There's a poll. Is this man possessed? Clearly yes he
- 50:59Speaker 1: is possessed. I mean the minority again only 30% of
- 51:03Speaker 1: people think he was possessed but oh well let's carry
- 51:06Speaker 1: on and thank you to Matt for sending that one.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Okay on to the Australian Daily Telegraph now. Young man
- 51:13Speaker 1: scrotum caught in power tool at home in Sydney's west.
- 51:18Speaker 1: A young man has been involved in a horrifying accident
- 51:21Speaker 1: in which his scrotum became entangled in a handheld electric grinder.
- 51:25Speaker 1: I wonder what he was doing to have that kind
- 51:27Speaker 1: of accident. Ambient Services received an emergency call just after 2.30pm
- 51:33Speaker 1: after the accident at the home in St. Clair in
- 51:35Speaker 1: Sydney's West. The injured 19-year-old man was reported to be
- 51:40Speaker 1: conscious and breathing when their ambulance arrived who's taken to
- 51:43Speaker 1: hospital in a stable condition. That's the end of the story.
- 51:48Speaker 1: It's quite a short one that man's scrotum caught in
- 51:50Speaker 1: power tool. I'll have one more look at the photograph there.
- 51:55Speaker 1: Presumably the power tool is hidden under the sheet there.
- 51:59Speaker 1: The length seems to be spread quite far apart. It
- 52:03Speaker 1: picked later out his face for some reason. Maybe to
- 52:06Speaker 1: stop him from being embarrassed. I don't know what he's
- 52:10Speaker 1: doing here with something. Maybe sticking a screwdriver off his
- 52:14Speaker 1: nose for good measure. I'm not sure. Anyway let's go
- 52:19Speaker 1: on to the next story. Okay this one is on
- 52:22Speaker 1: the BBC News website and was sent to me by Dr. Bear.
- 52:26Speaker 1: Thank you very much for sending me the story. indonesia
- 52:30Speaker 1: police confiscated sex toy mistaken for angel yeah sure it
- 52:35Speaker 1: was indonesia police have confiscated a sex toy from a
- 52:39Speaker 1: remote village after its inhabitants and some on social media
- 52:42Speaker 1: mistook it for an angel the dolls found in march
- 52:46Speaker 1: floating in the sea by a fisherman in the bongai
- 52:48Speaker 1: islands in sulawesi province his family took care of the
- 52:53Speaker 1: doll and pictures soon spread online along with claims it
- 52:57Speaker 1: was an angel Police investigated amid fears the rumors were
- 53:01Speaker 1: caused on the rest and found it was in fact
- 53:03Speaker 1: an inflatable sex doll. I don't want to be a
- 53:06Speaker 1: skeptic but I'm not sure that this man really did
- 53:09Speaker 1: think it was an angel. I think that was probably
- 53:12Speaker 1: just the story he told his family when he brought
- 53:15Speaker 1: it home. So yeah yeah no we found an angel
- 53:18Speaker 1: in the sea. It's going to be living with us now.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Indonesia News Portal, DTIC said the photos of the doll
- 53:26Speaker 1: dressed in mule and wearing a hijab spread on social
- 53:28Speaker 1: media shortly after it was discovered. Rumors then began to
- 53:33Speaker 1: spread that it was a bitted diary and guessing that
- 53:35Speaker 1: some kind of angel I'm not too sure. Along with
- 53:38Speaker 1: unverified stories about how it was found stranded and crying
- 53:42Speaker 1: prompting the police investigation. Well here we go it's got
- 53:46Speaker 1: a bit more about the bitted diary. Many cross Indonesia
- 53:50Speaker 1: continue to hold strong beliefs in the supernatural including the
- 53:53Speaker 1: existence of a bitted diary which is a type of
- 53:55Speaker 1: angel or spirit. Local police chief, oh god these names
- 54:00Speaker 1: every time. Local police chief, Haru Pram Garnal told reporters
- 54:05Speaker 1: that villages and found the doll shortly after the rare
- 54:08Speaker 1: March solar eclipse that swept across Southeast Asia. The timing
- 54:12Speaker 1: of the discovery led some to believe that the doll
- 54:15Speaker 1: had a divine provenance. They have no internet. They don't
- 54:19Speaker 1: know what a sex toy is. So that's that story.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Make of it what you will. You can make your
- 54:26Speaker 1: own mind up but just take a quick look at
- 54:29Speaker 1: some of these faces here before you decide. This guy
- 54:32Speaker 1: peering over at it here. This guy was arms around it.
- 54:37Speaker 1: I think you're pretty pleased to himself. This guy here.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Slightly guilty look. I don't know. Anyway that's enough smudge
- 54:47Speaker 1: for today. Let's say I'm going to something a lot
- 54:51Speaker 1: more wholesome. The sun. New theory warns that Mercury passing
- 54:56Speaker 1: in front of the sun could signal the end of
- 54:58Speaker 1: the world. A prophetic interpretation of the natural phenomenon draws
- 55:03Speaker 1: grave conclusions. A new theory has emerged to suggest that
- 55:07Speaker 1: the upcoming May 9th transit of Mercury is linked to
- 55:10Speaker 1: the Bible's prophecy of destruction and then it's just another
- 55:13Speaker 1: article where they just post the the internet video. Why
- 55:16Speaker 1: don't some of these people pick one of my recordings
- 55:19Speaker 1: to show on their articles? I'd love to see the headline.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Evidence of new species of monkey living behind radiators. Mercury's
- 55:29Speaker 1: rare passing in front of the sun on Monday. May
- 55:32Speaker 1: 9th occurs only around 13 times the century and last
- 55:35Speaker 1: took place in 2006. However, the narrator says that this
- 55:40Speaker 1: time around there are other factors at play which could
- 55:43Speaker 1: hint at the biblical prophecy of destruction. There's a video
- 55:47Speaker 1: where I'm imagining it's going to be quite a long one.
- 55:50Speaker 1: It's 8 minutes long so I'm not going to watch
- 55:52Speaker 1: the recording. I'm sure it's very informative though. So I
- 55:57Speaker 1: will just read the article instead. So this is some
- 56:01Speaker 1: of the hints that it really is the biblical prophecy
- 56:03Speaker 1: of destruction. Firstly, when the blood moon Dupley is measured
- 56:08Speaker 1: from the Rush Has Hannah 2015, the Jewish New Year,
- 56:11Speaker 1: the transit of Mercury is set to take place to
- 56:14Speaker 1: 240 days. Also, 40 days short of the full birth cycle,
- 56:19Speaker 1: I have no idea what that sentence means. I'll read
- 56:23Speaker 1: it again. Firstly, when the blood moon Dupley is measured
- 56:27Speaker 1: from Rosh Hashanah's 2015, the Jewish New Year, the transit
- 56:31Speaker 1: of Mercury is set to take place 240 days, also
- 56:35Speaker 1: 40 days short of the full birth cycle. I don't know,
- 56:39Speaker 1: I've read it twice now, still doesn't make sense. The
- 56:43Speaker 1: narrator says this is a significant number. as a number
- 56:47Speaker 1: 40 reappears in the Bible over and over again. Okay,
- 56:51Speaker 1: so it's number 40. Prophetical explains that the moon will
- 56:55Speaker 1: be exactly three days old at the time of Mercury's 7.5-hour transit,
- 57:00Speaker 1: which is significant as it is related to the sex
- 57:02Speaker 1: sins in the Bible. You know what, I can't, I'm
- 57:06Speaker 1: reading this article, but it doesn't make any sense. Okay,
- 57:11Speaker 1: The positioning of the crescent moon in alignment with the
- 57:13Speaker 1: Orion star constellation turns Orion's club into a mace, apparently.
- 57:18Speaker 1: The moon itself has been turned into a sickle, so
- 57:21Speaker 1: literally turning the Orion's club into a mace as he
- 57:24Speaker 1: strikes the lions well along the cheek during the transit
- 57:26Speaker 1: of Mercury. And then, honestly, this is not making any sense.
- 57:32Speaker 1: I'm sure the video explains it all perfectly, but just
- 57:35Speaker 1: take away from this, the world's going to end pretty soon.
- 57:39Speaker 1: So it's so complicated, it can't be wrong, basically. It's
- 57:44Speaker 1: the world's going to end, so get used to that.
- 57:47Speaker 1: When's this happening? I'm just going to have a look.
- 57:52Speaker 1: I've had so much confusing information. I've forgotten, okay, made
- 57:57Speaker 1: a ninth. So what's this? Oh my god, this is tomorrow.
- 58:03Speaker 1: My god, well, if you manage to watch this case
- 58:06Speaker 1: before the world ends, thank you for viewing. So yeah,
- 58:10Speaker 1: that was that. I don't know what to make of that.
- 58:15Speaker 1: I didn't make a damn bit of sense to me.
- 58:18Speaker 1: This is going to be the final story now. This
- 58:21Speaker 1: is another one from the sun hopefully this is a
- 58:23Speaker 1: bit more easy to follow. This is a great one
- 58:26Speaker 1: to end on. This is a real high point in
- 58:30Speaker 1: British journalism right here. So, fishermen, things, a new creature
- 58:35Speaker 1: has just washed the shore, but the reality is more disgusting. Oh, oh,
- 58:41Speaker 1: let's have a look at the recording. What the hell is?
- 58:45Speaker 1: Almost definitely a new life form. What else could it be?
- 58:50Speaker 1: So there's the recording. You don't need to say any more.
- 58:55Speaker 1: That was conclusive enough. This is the bizarre moment a
- 58:58Speaker 1: fisherman finds themselves in for a disgusting surprise after spotting
- 59:02Speaker 1: a strange creature wash your shore. But things probably aren't
- 59:06Speaker 1: as if first seem for fisherman Ronald Honey Sethofer reportedly
- 59:10Speaker 1: filmed the recording whilst on an excursion to Pulver Island
- 59:13Speaker 1: in Australia. Ronald wrote, I was out fishing and notice
- 59:17Speaker 1: of strange creatures swimming towards the shore. It appears as
- 59:21Speaker 1: if the animal in question is actually human waste. With
- 59:25Speaker 1: one viewer commenting that my friend is the elusive turnfish. Yeah,
- 59:30Speaker 1: that's pretty much the end of the article. And the
- 59:33Speaker 1: end of this case. So, yeah, a high point. Fishing
- 59:38Speaker 1: Man Films poo in Blake the End. That's the end
- 59:42Speaker 1: of this week's strange news roundup. I hope you enjoyed that.
- 59:47Speaker 1: I apologize if I sounded a bit out of it
- 59:49Speaker 1: in this case. I'm still combating the effects of the
- 59:53Speaker 1: flu and these quality news articles are only sort of
- 59:56Speaker 1: confusing me more. So, I probably came across a lot
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: more discombobulated than I usually do. If you find any
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: new stories that would be good for these recordings, send
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: me a link.