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- 1:02Speaker 5: How are you, sir?
- 1:04Speaker 6: I am doing good, Chris.
- 1:06Speaker 2: We're doing well. We've been, you know, splitting things through.
- 1:08Speaker 5: Of course we're obviously we always with you football specific
- 1:10Speaker 5: from college baseball, college softball. A lot going on at
- 1:13Speaker 5: SEC spring meetings. So it is a Monday on a Tuesday.
- 1:16Speaker 5: I hope you had a great Memorial Day weekend.
- 1:18Speaker 2: And holiday.
- 1:20Speaker 6: Yeah, it did got a little golf in this weekend
- 1:23Speaker 6: despite the rains. All in all is pretty good.
- 1:26Speaker 5: Chris, Let's go through some of the comments just to
- 1:29Speaker 5: read the tea leaves down in Deston at the SEC
- 1:32Speaker 5: spring meetings on Obviously, college football playoff expansion is front
- 1:36Speaker 5: and center, and Kirby Smart had this to say today
- 1:41Speaker 5: kind of was the to me, the comment of all comments.
- 1:44Speaker 2: He said a quote, I've been a huge advocate.
- 1:46Speaker 5: If we can't find rules that everybody plays by, then
- 1:50Speaker 5: we should play play on our own. He said, I'm
- 1:53Speaker 5: not afraid of that. I'm not afraid of a breakaway
- 1:57Speaker 5: of the NCAA.
- 1:58Speaker 6: Your thoughts, well, you know, I'm sure that's what he
- 2:03Speaker 6: thinks and believes, and I think there's a lot of
- 2:06Speaker 6: sentiment for that. There has been, I should say, a
- 2:09Speaker 6: lot of sentiment for that, but I don't. I think
- 2:12Speaker 6: sometimes that is one of those statements that may be
- 2:19Speaker 6: kind of a kind of a threat, so to speak,
- 2:21Speaker 6: that because obviously, college football on a national level and
- 2:27Speaker 6: a national championship without the SEC in it is not
- 2:32Speaker 6: going to be legitimate. So they have to have the SEC,
- 2:35Speaker 6: just like you have to have the Big Ten to
- 2:38Speaker 6: have a legitimate, you know, national champion. Now, I also
- 2:42Speaker 6: think that if you're split away and you've just got
- 2:45Speaker 6: the SEC and you did well, then you're not an
- 2:48Speaker 6: you you can't win a national championship because you're only
- 2:51Speaker 6: playing as a conference champion. And you might claim you're
- 2:54Speaker 6: the best, but then we're going back to where we
- 2:56Speaker 6: used to be, where people just voted who they thought
- 2:59Speaker 6: was best. That's why you got like Alabama claims like
- 3:02Speaker 6: eighteen titles when you know don't have that many, but
- 3:07Speaker 6: you've got more. You got more claim titles than there
- 3:11Speaker 6: are years that we play college football. So I look,
- 3:14Speaker 6: I don't think that's realistic. Here, here's what I think
- 3:17Speaker 6: it comes down to. It always comes down to money.
- 3:21Speaker 6: So what is the television number that's going to you know,
- 3:26Speaker 6: it's going to be two fifty to eighty million. That's
- 3:30Speaker 6: going to say, Okay, the money works, we can cancel
- 3:34Speaker 6: the SEC championship game and the money that comes with it,
- 3:37Speaker 6: because now we will not only make it back, but
- 3:40Speaker 6: we'll make more money being a part of this. There
- 3:43Speaker 6: has to be that money that that number that works.
- 3:48Speaker 6: If it does, then we're probably going to go to
- 3:51Speaker 6: that number. Of it might be twenty four, which I
- 3:55Speaker 6: think is too many in terms of you don't have
- 3:59Speaker 6: twenty fourteen that are good enough to compete for a
- 4:02Speaker 6: national championship. But it is getting more and more. Like
- 4:06Speaker 6: the butt, you've got. More entry leads to more money
- 4:10Speaker 6: and more games, more playoff games. More playoff games is
- 4:16Speaker 6: more money. You know, you hear what I'm saying. Money, money,
- 4:19Speaker 6: and more money. That's what it's all about. And it's
- 4:23Speaker 6: what it's always been about. And so the theory is
- 4:26Speaker 6: right or wrong, is hey, we can make more money
- 4:29Speaker 6: by having more playoff games. It's the NFL model. It
- 4:34Speaker 6: has been a big part of what the Big Ten
- 4:37Speaker 6: and the people that are involved in the Big Ten
- 4:42Speaker 6: kind of believe, and their whole model of having you know,
- 4:46Speaker 6: the TV contracts with multiple people. It's all very much
- 4:50Speaker 6: NFL modolation. That's why they're pushing it. And then we'll
- 4:54Speaker 6: see exactly how firm of a stand that Greg Sinki
- 4:58Speaker 6: has on this, because I know he wants sixteen, although
- 5:02Speaker 6: there's some sentiment I'm told among coaches that want twenty
- 5:07Speaker 6: four in the SEC. So look, it's it's going to
- 5:10Speaker 6: be interesting to see how it plays out in the end.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Michaeh Mike Elco, Texas A and M said this today.
- 5:16Speaker 5: He said, hey, look, we have no enforcement of roles
- 5:19Speaker 5: at the highest level. He said, what billion dollar industry
- 5:22Speaker 5: doesn't have a CEO, So he calls it for what
- 5:25Speaker 5: it is. It is a billion dollar industry. We have
- 5:28Speaker 5: no quote CEO. There's no Roger Goodell, like him or not,
- 5:30Speaker 5: there's no Roger Goodell in college football.
- 5:32Speaker 2: There should be, Chris. I don't know how we get to.
- 5:39Speaker 5: The end of this without a breakaway, because you know
- 5:42Speaker 5: you've got the Big twelve and I get it in
- 5:44Speaker 5: the ACC, and you've got other conferences out that's not
- 5:47Speaker 5: named SEC Big ten. That's saying, hey, look, we need
- 5:50Speaker 5: a rev share and I'm paraphrasing a rev share model
- 5:53Speaker 5: TV share, you know TV deals where it's across the board.
- 5:56Speaker 5: They're asking for an NFL model to where you know
- 6:00Speaker 5: everything's equal, you know you have a CEO, there's a
- 6:05Speaker 5: salary cap. They're asking for basically a professional model. It
- 6:08Speaker 5: feels like to me, break me if I'm wrong here,
- 6:10Speaker 5: but there's no decision makers to make the final call here.
- 6:16Speaker 5: So ultimately, if you can't get it right, I don't
- 6:19Speaker 5: know how you don't go do your own thing, or
- 6:20Speaker 5: at least a couple of conferences to do their own thing.
- 6:24Speaker 6: Right in the decision makers are the conference commissioners who
- 6:28Speaker 6: are not going to give up their power. And look,
- 6:32Speaker 6: I mean, it could end up being a situation where
- 6:35Speaker 6: the SEC does their own thing. And then what do
- 6:37Speaker 6: you do. Do you have kind of an SEC and
- 6:41Speaker 6: do you have some game after it's all over that's
- 6:45Speaker 6: the SEC champion against the Big ten or I mean,
- 6:50Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to be the Big
- 6:51Speaker 6: ten and everybody else. I mean, I don't know how
- 6:55Speaker 6: you determine when you split off. And I agree with you,
- 6:58Speaker 6: I think I think certainly it looks like that could
- 7:04Speaker 6: end up being the final decision maker. But then what
- 7:07Speaker 6: do you do about a national championship game? So how
- 7:11Speaker 6: do you have a national championship game and we have
- 7:13Speaker 6: a split off with the entries? You don't unless you
- 7:15Speaker 6: have it after everybody finishes their season and you just
- 7:20Speaker 6: pick two you know, and you know or not picked two.
- 7:23Speaker 6: But hey, the SEC champion and let's call it the
- 7:26Speaker 6: Big ten at all champion. I don't know how that's
- 7:29Speaker 6: going to play out. But you're right, and you hit
- 7:35Speaker 6: the crux of the problem is you don't have people
- 7:41Speaker 6: leading it, and you've got a bunch of people, and
- 7:44Speaker 6: everybody's trying to serve their own their own conference, which
- 7:51Speaker 6: is fine and understandable, but nobody is standing up for
- 7:56Speaker 6: the go to college football. College football is not about
- 8:00Speaker 6: the SEC. It's not about the Big Ten or the
- 8:02Speaker 6: Big twelve of Fact twelve or the ACC and it's
- 8:06Speaker 6: about everybody. And we got away from that a long
- 8:10Speaker 6: time ago. And I think once these conferences got bigger
- 8:13Speaker 6: and bigger and bigger, and the conference commissioners got bigger
- 8:16Speaker 6: and bigger and bigger, it became very problematic. And I
- 8:19Speaker 6: do think whether it's one person, whether it's a committee
- 8:23Speaker 6: that just governs college football that everybody plays by the
- 8:28Speaker 6: same rules. You know, I think you delegitimize the sport
- 8:32Speaker 6: if you split off, and you're right, it could we
- 8:34Speaker 6: could do that. But then if you have different rules
- 8:37Speaker 6: in the SEC then the Big Ten, well then you know,
- 8:41Speaker 6: how do you how do you sit there and determine
- 8:45Speaker 6: the champion? Well, it means you got more scholarships, you
- 8:48Speaker 6: got more you know, lesser academic required, I mean, would
- 8:52Speaker 6: it you can spend more money? Well, then that's obviously
- 8:56Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna delegitimize a true champ in in
- 9:00Speaker 6: terms of the overall value and success of finding out
- 9:05Speaker 6: a national champion through a national championship game. So none
- 9:10Speaker 6: of this I liked. But it's been very predictable, hadn't it.
- 9:15Speaker 6: I Mean, it's like a train that was coming down
- 9:17Speaker 6: the track and we knew it was coming, and we
- 9:20Speaker 6: knew years ago it was ways away, but it was coming. Well,
- 9:25Speaker 6: it is raaring down upon us. We can hear it,
- 9:29Speaker 6: we can see it, and we can see the steam
- 9:31Speaker 6: coming out of the engines.
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- 10:19Speaker 5: of going through some of these notes. One football note here,
- 10:23Speaker 5: and of course there's a couple several here.
- 10:24Speaker 2: But Vanderbilt.
- 10:25Speaker 5: Clark Lee today, talking about Vanderbilt, said, I didn't come
- 10:29Speaker 5: to Vanderbilt for ten win season.
- 10:31Speaker 2: I came to win a national championship.
- 10:33Speaker 5: Now I must say we I'm not gonna put you
- 10:35Speaker 5: in this We as in me and probably some people
- 10:38Speaker 5: around here laughed last year and others did. Clarkly said, hey,
- 10:41Speaker 5: we're here to compete for ten win seasons, national championships,
- 10:44Speaker 5: play in January. Everybody kind of laughed. Diego Pavia said
- 10:47Speaker 5: the same thing. They were pretty dang good last year.
- 10:51Speaker 5: How much better can he make Vanderbilt. I don't have
- 10:54Speaker 5: the numbers, because I don't think we get numbers from Beannderbilt.
- 10:57Speaker 5: What they have in their roster this year, dollar wise,
- 10:59Speaker 5: they're gonna of start likely their first ever five star quarterback,
- 11:03Speaker 5: or at least move him into you know, kind of
- 11:05Speaker 5: that guy to succeed or supersede Diego Pavia. But Clark
- 11:09Speaker 5: Lee wasn't playing around last year or the year before.
- 11:13Speaker 5: He says, hey, I'm not here to win ten ten games,
- 11:15Speaker 5: I'm here to win it all.
- 11:17Speaker 6: Well, let's let's look at that in a big picture
- 11:21Speaker 6: and say, in theory, if Vanderbilt wants to be a
- 11:26Speaker 6: power and if people that are behind Clark Lea can
- 11:33Speaker 6: put their money where their mouth is. I'm not going
- 11:36Speaker 6: to say they can do what Vanderbilt did, but you
- 11:39Speaker 6: can see what because people ask me, well, what other
- 11:42Speaker 6: program but behinds Indiana could could maybe be the next
- 11:45Speaker 6: Indiana Texas Tech. Look at what they're doing. Could Vanderbilt
- 11:49Speaker 6: do that? Well? They certainly have the money and the
- 11:52Speaker 6: resources in the alumni to do it. Are they willing
- 11:55Speaker 6: to do that? It's a tougher role to go through
- 12:00Speaker 6: in the SEC. But if they're willing to do all
- 12:03Speaker 6: of those things, then certainly. The reason why I think
- 12:07Speaker 6: it's been laughable is Banda built has not until recently
- 12:12Speaker 6: shown any They're just doing lip service to what we
- 12:16Speaker 6: expect to win. They've never done anything to support the
- 12:20Speaker 6: reality of them trying to compete nationally. I think certainly
- 12:24Speaker 6: they're doing better at that. Are they doing it well
- 12:28Speaker 6: enough to compete for national titles right now?
- 12:31Speaker 3: No?
- 12:32Speaker 6: But could they? What's up to them? I think now
- 12:36Speaker 6: we're in a new age where you can't rule out anybody,
- 12:39Speaker 6: and if you're looking for who could or who couldn't.
- 12:43Speaker 6: It's really going to come down to dollars and cents.
- 12:45Speaker 6: Who can put together that type of roster and get
- 12:49Speaker 6: in the staff to do that. That's what it's all
- 12:53Speaker 6: about really at this point. Players, staff, development facilities, all
- 12:58Speaker 6: those things. I think anybody's capable, but some people don't
- 13:04Speaker 6: have the resources or don't have the interest in putting
- 13:08Speaker 6: that into football enough to have a realistic shot at
- 13:12Speaker 6: putting it together. Talk is cheap, and I think it's
- 13:16Speaker 6: great that Clark's showing that confidence. But let's go ahead
- 13:20Speaker 6: and win ten games three or four times out of
- 13:24Speaker 6: five years and then we can talk about winning a championship.
- 13:27Speaker 6: But look, I will say this, if you go to
- 13:30Speaker 6: twenty four teams, they certainly could be a playoff team
- 13:34Speaker 6: a lot of years. That'll certainly be something that they
- 13:37Speaker 6: can shoot for, at least on the way up, if
- 13:39Speaker 6: that's what they're willing to do.
- 13:42Speaker 5: Visiting with Chris Landry of course, Landry football dot com
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- 13:50Speaker 5: and more. Chris, What happens to a guy we haven't
- 13:54Speaker 5: seen this much in sports. Brendan sorosby NCAA has shot
- 13:57Speaker 5: down he's not getting back in college football.
- 14:00Speaker 2: He put out a.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Statement about an hour ago. Ian Rapaport has put this out.
- 14:05Speaker 5: He says, quote, I am deeply sorry to everyone. I'm
- 14:07Speaker 5: disappointed he's in rehab for gambling and also depression. What
- 14:13Speaker 5: happened me? This guy had such a at least at
- 14:15Speaker 5: face value, he had a very promising career ahead of him.
- 14:19Speaker 5: Texas text number one guy. They'll have to pivot. Obviously
- 14:22Speaker 5: they've already done that. That's going to hurt them, but
- 14:24Speaker 5: more so it hurt you know, for what he's in.
- 14:27Speaker 5: What is his options now as a football player?
- 14:31Speaker 6: The first thing I thought when this all came down
- 14:34Speaker 6: with him is arch Schleister. For people who don't remember
- 14:39Speaker 6: archs Leister, and it's just gamblings were accepted today, it's advertised.
- 14:43Speaker 6: I mean, pro leagues are in bed with the companies
- 14:47Speaker 6: that are dealing with But arch Leister was had a
- 14:51Speaker 6: gambling issue at Ohio State and then you know it
- 14:56Speaker 6: basically finished his NFL career because it was out once
- 15:01Speaker 6: he got with the Colts. Yeah, I don't I don't
- 15:05Speaker 6: know the path back here. I think there's that threat of,
- 15:10Speaker 6: you know, the integrity of the game, which is look,
- 15:13Speaker 6: the closer we're tied to gambling, folks, the closer that
- 15:16Speaker 6: becomes something that you worry about. It is something I've
- 15:19Speaker 6: always worried about. I'm not telling everybody, anybody what they
- 15:23Speaker 6: should do, what they should not do, but athletes should
- 15:29Speaker 6: not be doing that. I'm gonna tell you. I've been
- 15:32Speaker 6: around some young kids, you know, the last two or
- 15:35Speaker 6: three years. It is. It just shocked me how much
- 15:41Speaker 6: how prevalent gambling is on college campuses among the student body.
- 15:45Speaker 6: I mean, that is the thing to do. To think
- 15:49Speaker 6: that athletes are not involved in it, are not doing
- 15:52Speaker 6: some of this, we'd be naive. So I don't know
- 15:57Speaker 6: that he's coming back from it, but I guess my
- 15:59Speaker 6: bigger point would be this is a problem that we've
- 16:03Speaker 6: opened the door with gambling, that that this is this
- 16:06Speaker 6: is a problem that's going to come about it. I
- 16:08Speaker 6: think that I don't think he's going to be alone.
- 16:10Speaker 6: I think there are others that are gonna be and
- 16:12Speaker 6: there have been others at other sports, but I think
- 16:15Speaker 6: we're going to see this again, unfortunately, because it's just
- 16:18Speaker 6: we'd be naive to think that others are not doing this.
- 16:21Speaker 6: They are.
- 16:23Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford got a finalized deal of course. Uh, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 5: the RAMS went and picked up ty Simpson this year.
- 16:31Speaker 5: It looks like they're setting up and probably had these
- 16:34Speaker 5: conversations with Simpson. It didn't like college where he can
- 16:36Speaker 5: get the transfer portal, so he's the backup guy. But
- 16:39Speaker 5: at least on paper, the RAMS are trying to tee
- 16:42Speaker 5: up now, the near future and possibly the you know,
- 16:46Speaker 5: poor long future, much like Aaron Rodgers and the and
- 16:49Speaker 5: the Packers did with Jordan Love.
- 16:52Speaker 2: At least that's what this looks like to me.
- 16:54Speaker 6: It is and that's that's exactly what they're doing. This
- 16:57Speaker 6: is the RAMS team that's win now, and that's what
- 17:00Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford represents. They're not gonna win now with ty
- 17:05Speaker 6: Simpson at the highest level. You know they could, you
- 17:08Speaker 6: know they are. Now what does this look like? Well,
- 17:12Speaker 6: I don't know how many throws and reps that Matthew's
- 17:15Speaker 6: gonna need to be sharp. He's gonna get those and
- 17:18Speaker 6: maybe that tie will get more reps in the developmental states,
- 17:22Speaker 6: because we don't know if this is Matthew Stafford's last year,
- 17:26Speaker 6: like it appears to be with Aaron Rodgers. He could
- 17:30Speaker 6: stay another year. It's gonna be a year to year situation,
- 17:32Speaker 6: but you just nailed it. They are trying to make
- 17:35Speaker 6: a run with a very good roster with Matthew Stafford,
- 17:38Speaker 6: and there are some things that obviously they liked about
- 17:40Speaker 6: Ty Simpson to develop towards the future. Look, they were
- 17:45Speaker 6: not picking high enough to be able to get and
- 17:48Speaker 6: won't be picking high enough to be able to get
- 17:49Speaker 6: one of the elite quarterbacks. So getting someone where they
- 17:53Speaker 6: got him make some sense in the long term because
- 17:57Speaker 6: they had them graded very highly. Now, the only argument,
- 18:01Speaker 6: and I think there was an argument in inside that organization,
- 18:05Speaker 6: is we could draft somebody at that pick, could have draft.
- 18:09Speaker 6: It's somebody at that pick that could help us this
- 18:12Speaker 6: year get us over the top. But they just felt
- 18:15Speaker 6: like they've got a quarterback that they really like, and
- 18:18Speaker 6: so they're gonna go forward with kind of develop him,
- 18:23Speaker 6: but try to win now. And if they're missing a piece,
- 18:25Speaker 6: let's say do it to an injury, you'll see them
- 18:28Speaker 6: be active before the trade deadline with a veteran guy,
- 18:31Speaker 6: let's say, another weapon at receiver or another edge player
- 18:34Speaker 6: on defense. They'll they'll try to be active doing that
- 18:37Speaker 6: because they're on the win now mode.
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- 18:46Speaker 2: Chris.
- 18:46Speaker 5: Always appreciate your insight. Thanks for moving around with the
- 18:49Speaker 5: holiday and look, have a great week. We'll do it
- 18:51Speaker 5: again next week.
- 18:52Speaker 6: Hey, thank you so much. Take care.
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- 20:22Speaker 5: Someone needs to order a code read for Clark Lee.
- 20:25Speaker 5: Do you think Clarklee is off? Can Vanderbilt be not
- 20:30Speaker 5: a he says national champion? What do you expect Vanderbilt
- 20:35Speaker 5: football this year? Do you expect a off the cliff
- 20:38Speaker 5: digression or sho me regression or do you expect them
- 20:41Speaker 5: maybe to kind of hang in there around seven eight wins?
- 20:45Speaker 7: I strongly doubted them last year. I doubted Diego Pavia
- 20:50Speaker 7: last year and that didn't end up well for me.
- 20:55Speaker 7: But without Diego Pavia, yeah, there's going to be a
- 20:57Speaker 7: step back now.
- 20:58Speaker 4: I don't.
- 21:00Speaker 8: With the strides they've taken. I don't.
- 21:02Speaker 7: I can't go all the way and think we're gonna,
- 21:05Speaker 7: you know, we're gonna see old Vanderbilt. I don't think
- 21:08Speaker 7: they're just gonna drop down to four wins. But they're
- 21:10Speaker 7: gonna Yeah, I can't see where they help. But take
- 21:14Speaker 7: a step back.
- 21:15Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think you're you're probably right. All right,
- 21:19Speaker 5: let's see here. Yeah, we were talking about this Hooter story.
- 21:24Speaker 5: It's fascinating comments by the CEO. If you missed it,
- 21:26Speaker 5: Hooters is rebranding as a family friendly establishment, and the
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- 21:38Speaker 5: a neighborhood place. How would you define a neighborhood place.
- 21:43Speaker 5: I mean, as you would think that would be for everybody. Right,
- 21:46Speaker 5: But this this CEO, Neil Keefer. Neil Keifer is the CEO.
- 21:53Speaker 5: He's seventy four started Hooters the inception of it nineteen
- 21:57Speaker 5: eighty three. He started actually as the chain's attorney. He
- 22:02Speaker 5: took over as the CEO in nineteen ninety two. He
- 22:06Speaker 5: said the original owners sold the chains intellectual property and
- 22:10Speaker 5: contract rights. In two thousand and one. Keeper said private
- 22:12Speaker 5: equity firms took over certain locations as Hooters of America,
- 22:16Speaker 5: allowing the chain to devote assume me to deviate further
- 22:20Speaker 5: and further away from what the brand and the concept
- 22:22Speaker 5: stood for. So he's blaming this on other people. And
- 22:26Speaker 5: the first thing that he blamed was the appropriate sauce.
- 22:30Speaker 5: They didn't use the appropriate sauce. So about seventy percent
- 22:32Speaker 5: of our food products have that sauce on it, he said.
- 22:35Speaker 5: The second thing was we changed the uniform of the
- 22:38Speaker 5: girls and put them in almost what appeared to be thongs.
- 22:41Speaker 5: He said, it was never intended to be that way
- 22:43Speaker 5: in the concept. He said when the brand launched in
- 22:46Speaker 5: the early eighties, servers wore dolphin running shorts they're often
- 22:50Speaker 5: used at that time as a swimsuit cover up, which
- 22:55Speaker 5: he said suited the beach s theme of the restaurant. Quote,
- 22:59Speaker 5: it was a sporty, athletic look at the time, and
- 23:01Speaker 5: I think it lasted ten to fifteen years. A lot
- 23:04Speaker 5: of the country has seen a more sexualized version of
- 23:08Speaker 5: that that chased away a lot of the customers.
- 23:11Speaker 2: And he says that The.
- 23:17Speaker 5: New York Times noted that the brand centralized the servers
- 23:19Speaker 5: from the start, promoting them as Hooters girls, and created
- 23:23Speaker 5: a side business publishing the Hooters calendar and the servers
- 23:27Speaker 5: in bikinis. So he said, we're trying to get back
- 23:30Speaker 5: to family friendly and you know, have it open for everybody.
- 23:36Speaker 5: So what do you think do you think this thing
- 23:38Speaker 5: has a chance for the comeback? Are you pulling for
- 23:40Speaker 5: a Hooters comeback?
- 23:42Speaker 7: Okay, So, like we've already talked about your reason for existing,
- 23:48Speaker 7: the reason that sets you apart, the reason you got
- 23:51Speaker 7: so huge was scantily clad girls wearing the small range shorts,
- 23:59Speaker 7: the low cut top, showing their cleavage. So you completely
- 24:07Speaker 7: change that. Well, no, this man's trying to act like
- 24:09Speaker 7: that wasn't a thing. That was absolutely the thing. That's
- 24:13Speaker 7: why Hooters was so popular. So you say that you're
- 24:17Speaker 7: gonna do away with all that. That's fine, you probably should.
- 24:20Speaker 7: It's trashy these days. But then what's gonna set you apart?
- 24:24Speaker 7: What's gonna set you apart? Absolutely nothing? So where are
- 24:29Speaker 7: you going to get? Where are you going to have
- 24:31Speaker 7: anywhere close to the business you did back in the
- 24:33Speaker 7: day because of those reasons? If they don't exist, you're
- 24:39Speaker 7: just another place.
- 24:40Speaker 5: Really, yeah, ready, set go, says I bet the food
- 24:43Speaker 5: will still be garbage. So it looks like a lot
- 24:45Speaker 5: of people are split on the food. You said you
- 24:48Speaker 5: remember nineteen ninety four. You can still taste those wings,
- 24:51Speaker 5: you know.
- 24:51Speaker 2: What you said?
- 24:52Speaker 7: No, I just remember having them I don't remember if
- 24:54Speaker 7: they were. I mean, I guess they were good, but
- 24:57Speaker 7: I was also eleven years old.
- 24:59Speaker 5: As someone's that it's also named Hooters. Yeah, and I
- 25:03Speaker 5: don't that that whole rabbit hole down that you know
- 25:06Speaker 5: about Hooters, you know, women's chest and all that. I
- 25:10Speaker 5: don't know how they get away from that because like
- 25:13Speaker 5: it or not, I know they put the little.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Owl like hoot a hoot.
- 25:17Speaker 5: Owl, So they probably should have just went from the
- 25:20Speaker 5: door with an owl as a mascot. Maybe that's what
- 25:23Speaker 5: they do, is a family that maybe they rebrand this
- 25:26Speaker 5: is you know, think of it as the cow is
- 25:29Speaker 5: the mascot for Chick fil A, And maybe it's an owl.
- 25:35Speaker 5: They just make this big, weird looking owl, kind of
- 25:38Speaker 5: like the big weird King of the remember the old
- 25:40Speaker 5: King we've talked about. Maybe they do this weird owl
- 25:43Speaker 5: for Hooters.
- 25:44Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 25:46Speaker 7: Yeah, don't and don't play into the don't play into
- 25:50Speaker 7: the what's the word I'm looking for a start is
- 25:53Speaker 7: an owl? But we know we know what Hooters what
- 25:58Speaker 7: eventually was a euphemism for or So don't play into that, right,
- 26:03Speaker 7: try it.
- 26:03Speaker 8: I don't know how you make.
- 26:04Speaker 2: It the owl as the mascot.
- 26:06Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I know it's the mascot, But how
- 26:08Speaker 7: do you convince no, no, no, no, we're now we're
- 26:11Speaker 7: just talking about the bird.
- 26:13Speaker 5: So should they rebrand it as like hoot owls formally
- 26:17Speaker 5: known as hooters? I mean, maybe get away from that.
- 26:20Speaker 5: Does the most people know that owls actually hoot, that
- 26:23Speaker 5: it's called a hoot?
- 26:26Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know how boned up people
- 26:29Speaker 8: are in their owl.
- 26:32Speaker 2: History. Did you know that they hooped?
- 26:35Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 26:36Speaker 2: I figured you probably did. Did you used to hunt owls? No,
- 26:38Speaker 2: you can't do that.
- 26:38Speaker 5: That's illegal. Yes, yes, you cannot do that. Now you can't.
- 26:43Speaker 5: You don't need to be taken out owls.
- 26:45Speaker 2: You may.
- 26:45Speaker 5: You may get in trouble for that fishing game. We'll
- 26:47Speaker 5: get after you for that. Somebody said, also hire more
- 26:51Speaker 5: attractive women. Now that's going back into the hole. What
- 26:55Speaker 5: they said they didn't want to do, right, I don't
- 26:59Speaker 5: know they got it, they got it's it's it's a
- 27:01Speaker 5: lot going on there. Six are one eight, eight, five, three,
- 27:03Speaker 5: seven seven six. If you want to give us a
- 27:05Speaker 5: call as or excuse me, that's the text one. You
- 27:09Speaker 5: can call us six er one eight nine seven one
- 27:10Speaker 5: zero five to nine. Any thoughts on this whole SEC
- 27:14Speaker 5: media or Spring meetings chatter on the Playoff?
- 27:17Speaker 7: Are you just to No, it's nothing, it's nothing, nothing's
- 27:21Speaker 7: gonna happen, meetings, meetings, meetings, nothing ever happens, whether it's playoff,
- 27:26Speaker 7: committee meetings, SEC meetings, Big ten meetings. No, we've talked
- 27:32Speaker 7: about we know what the meetings are. People get together,
- 27:35Speaker 7: they get free food, they get free hotel stays, and
- 27:38Speaker 7: they just talk talk about things that that they're gonna
- 27:42Speaker 7: do in the future.
- 27:44Speaker 8: But we got to set up another meeting to get
- 27:46Speaker 8: it done.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:49Speaker 5: We meet to set up a meeting, to meet again
- 27:52Speaker 5: to set up It's just it's this vicious cycle. We
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- 28:21Speaker 5: One more segment to go on a Tuesday back in
- 28:24Speaker 5: a bit. You're not supposed to have any beverages. It's
- 28:26Speaker 5: not a cup. Kelsey and Swift were carrying around beer cans,
- 28:32Speaker 5: and then they were getting to do things that the
- 28:34Speaker 5: general populace couldn't do with food and beverage and more.
- 28:37Speaker 5: And so a lot of people are text saying, Yep,
- 28:39Speaker 5: here we go, We're going to support these idiots again.
- 28:42Speaker 5: So what do you think about Travis Kelcey with his
- 28:45Speaker 5: hat on backwards, flashing his can, just looking around, basically
- 28:49Speaker 5: snubby his nose at the gym.
- 28:51Speaker 7: Pop I see, I didn't know all that part. I
- 28:54Speaker 7: did see a video of him on the X at
- 28:58Speaker 7: the game whatever he was wearing and chugging a beer,
- 29:02Speaker 7: and I'm just thinking, so, you're how old are you?
- 29:07Speaker 7: You're still and you're still that guy like to stand.
- 29:10Speaker 7: I'm standing up and I'm gonna chug my beer because
- 29:13Speaker 7: that's gonna fire people up.
- 29:16Speaker 8: You are you?
- 29:18Speaker 7: Are you twenty twenty years old? That's what That's what
- 29:22Speaker 7: entertains you still, That's what's impressive. I'm gonna chug this beer. Yeah,
- 29:27Speaker 7: but I didn't know they were walking around and that
- 29:30Speaker 7: was the policy, but they were just doing the opposite
- 29:33Speaker 7: of the policy.
- 29:34Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, some fans, a lot of fans are not
- 29:36Speaker 5: happy about it, like why do they get to do this? Well,
- 29:38Speaker 5: it's because who they are, right, are they really gonna
- 29:41Speaker 5: get married? She's got to call this off before they
- 29:43Speaker 5: get married.
- 29:44Speaker 2: And she.
- 29:46Speaker 7: No, Jake, this is this is our classic American couple.
- 29:50Speaker 7: You've been trying to tear them down. This is You've
- 29:52Speaker 7: been trying to tear them down since the day they
- 29:54Speaker 7: got together.
- 29:56Speaker 2: You really think they're a classic American couple.
- 29:59Speaker 8: Sure?
- 30:00Speaker 5: Hey, did you know that your Wi Fi router? There's
- 30:03Speaker 5: new reports out Wi Fi routers of any kind can
- 30:06Speaker 5: be turned into a potential means for surveillance.
- 30:10Speaker 8: No, I don't doubt it.
- 30:11Speaker 5: Yeah, everything you own just about now. They probably got
- 30:15Speaker 5: these microphones. Well, of course people can hear them, but
- 30:18Speaker 5: I'm saying they probably got them surveyed to where even
- 30:21Speaker 5: though we think when the mics are off, they're probably
- 30:23Speaker 5: picking up everything.
- 30:24Speaker 8: Mike's never off.
- 30:25Speaker 5: Mike is never off, never off. You gotta be careful
- 30:28Speaker 5: around the mike. It can go hot. Let's see other
- 30:32Speaker 5: news of course, we've been talking a lot about the
- 30:35Speaker 5: SEC baseball. SEC baseball in the NCAA tournament. We went
- 30:40Speaker 5: through the bracket earlier. Also talking about SEC spring meetings,
- 30:43Speaker 5: Bret McMurphy says, SEC athletic directors vote to play conference
- 30:47Speaker 5: games on next to last week of regular season, starting
- 30:50Speaker 5: in twenty twenty seven. Quote that's the end of Cupcake Weekend,
- 30:55Speaker 5: said SEC Commissioner Greg Sankie.
- 30:57Speaker 2: So this is the last year it looks like that
- 31:03Speaker 2: the SEC.
- 31:03Speaker 5: Will play And I don't Why don't we Why does
- 31:05Speaker 5: people make such a big deal about that the Cupcake
- 31:08Speaker 5: weekend the weekend before rivalry weekend. I mean, the SEC
- 31:11Speaker 5: goes through the gauntlet of schedules, they play, most teams
- 31:14Speaker 5: play it whilst all teams play at least a formidable
- 31:17Speaker 5: opponent in one out of conference game. Yet everybody wants
- 31:21Speaker 5: to circle that one weekend and go and pick on
- 31:23Speaker 5: the SEC about it. Why it makes no sense to me. Also,
- 31:27Speaker 5: let's see if there's other notes out there from the
- 31:31Speaker 5: yeah SEC is. Greg Sankie asked about a potential fine
- 31:34Speaker 5: for Lane Kiffin's comments regarding Ole miss Quote, you'll find
- 31:38Speaker 5: out when everybody else finds out. I don't make those
- 31:40Speaker 5: announcements at podiums. Again, it sucks to be some reporters, right,
- 31:46Speaker 5: they have to ask questions. So and Texas A and M.
- 31:49Speaker 5: Trev Alberts, the athletic director there at Texas A and M.
- 31:52Speaker 5: Do we want to be governed or not? College athletics
- 31:56Speaker 5: is sending a strong message we don't want to be governed.
- 32:00Speaker 5: I disagree with that. How do you define governance? Are
- 32:06Speaker 5: you talking about governed from DC? Because we've already seen,
- 32:13Speaker 5: if you've paid attention over the last week and a half,
- 32:16Speaker 5: how big of a circus that is Democrats and Republicans
- 32:21Speaker 5: trying to pull in, wait and leverage off voting districts
- 32:25Speaker 5: and all this that doesn't need to go into football.
- 32:28Speaker 5: Come on, I mean, how does he mean governed? I
- 32:31Speaker 5: don't think people want to be governed that way? Again,
- 32:35Speaker 5: I ask you and Trevor Alberts. I would assume is
- 32:38Speaker 5: a very smart man, is a sharp guy, was a
- 32:41Speaker 5: good football player too, that's the same TREVL.
- 32:44Speaker 2: Alberts.
- 32:45Speaker 5: I believe maybe it's not anyway, I digress, Why is
- 32:51Speaker 5: it nobody can come up with a dang model. And
- 32:56Speaker 5: here there's two things at play. One the entire kit
- 33:00Speaker 5: and come to people. They don't want it met that
- 33:04Speaker 5: this is truly what it is that they think we're
- 33:06Speaker 5: they're fooling people. Well, it's not really paid for play,
- 33:09Speaker 5: it's it's in il. It's not really a professional sport.
- 33:13Speaker 5: It's still amateurism, poppycock, it's not everybody knows it.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Stop saying it.
- 33:17Speaker 5: And then two they want their cake and eat it too.
- 33:19Speaker 5: They don't want to pay employees. They don't want to
- 33:22Speaker 5: classify athletes as employees. Until we get past those two
- 33:26Speaker 5: things right there and say yes, we are a pro sport,
- 33:31Speaker 5: and yes, because what defines professional. You're getting paid, you
- 33:37Speaker 5: are paid. I don't care if it's minor league baseball,
- 33:43Speaker 5: you know, class one, two and three. I don't care
- 33:45Speaker 5: if it's hockey and you're not in the NHL, but
- 33:48Speaker 5: maybe you're in a feederly. If you're getting paid, you
- 33:51Speaker 5: are a what professional? You're getting paid for services services rendered?
- 33:57Speaker 2: That's one.
- 33:57Speaker 5: And then two you have a governor, so I don't
- 34:00Speaker 5: I don't know what kind of governance he wants. And
- 34:03Speaker 5: that's the thing about these academias types. They don't ever
- 34:06Speaker 5: say even athletic directors, they speak words, but the words
- 34:10Speaker 5: don't ever they're not direct, right, Like you'll tell me, Jake,
- 34:16Speaker 5: that was dumb.
- 34:18Speaker 2: That's pretty direct. I understand what you say.
- 34:21Speaker 5: But if you tried to church that up a little
- 34:23Speaker 5: bit and say something, you know, just to beat around
- 34:26Speaker 5: the bush, I may be like, what are you talking about?
- 34:28Speaker 5: They speak in the second term, they don't ever to
- 34:30Speaker 5: He just says do we want to be governed or not?
- 34:33Speaker 5: College athletics is sending a strong message we don't want
- 34:36Speaker 5: to be governed. We'll define governance. What is governance? Also,
- 34:41Speaker 5: Georgia President Jear Moorehead on the state of college athletics.
- 34:45Speaker 5: We're close to anarchy. Time is running out on us.
- 34:49Speaker 5: We haven't accomplished we have we have what we have
- 34:53Speaker 5: accomplish excuse me in the last What have you accomplished
- 34:55Speaker 5: in the last year?
- 34:55Speaker 2: Nothing?
- 34:56Speaker 5: Absolutely no progress. I'd say we're in a worse position
- 34:59Speaker 5: than we were year ago. And that's concerning. You're absolutely
- 35:02Speaker 5: in a worse position than you were a year ago.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Why people continue to spend more money? There's no cap
- 35:07Speaker 5: on the money. Everybody's looking for innovative ways to circumvent
- 35:13Speaker 5: the rules of the CSC and the NIL and all
- 35:16Speaker 5: of the things, the acronyms that are out there. Literally,
- 35:19Speaker 5: in three years, we've seen a budget go from twenty
- 35:22Speaker 5: five million from Ohio State to win the national title
- 35:25Speaker 5: to probably a forty million.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Dollar budget this year in less than three years.
- 35:30Speaker 5: So, yeah, there's no adults in the room, is it.
- 35:34Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like there's
- 35:36Speaker 5: any adults in the room. And let's see here a
- 35:39Speaker 5: couple more here. You'll be glad to know this because
- 35:43Speaker 5: I know you were concerned about this the Civil War
- 35:45Speaker 5: lives talking about Oregon oor in state Home and Home
- 35:49Speaker 5: series twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty two, twenty twenty Well,
- 35:53Speaker 5: it's going to continue all the way to twenty thirty two.
- 35:55Speaker 5: So you're gonna get your Oregon State organ football rivalry matchup,
- 36:00Speaker 5: thank god. And this Brendan's sours me. Did I can't
- 36:04Speaker 5: rememberf you were in here. When we were talking to
- 36:05Speaker 5: Chris Andrew about it, he put out a very it
- 36:11Speaker 5: was sad to me, and I hate him. He says
- 36:13Speaker 5: he's going to rehab, he's fighting oppression. I mean, he's
- 36:17Speaker 5: kind of come out and opened up his heart, so
- 36:19Speaker 5: to speak, apologized for what he's done. He's returning to Lubbock,
- 36:25Speaker 5: but more so from the rehab side. He knows he's
- 36:27Speaker 5: probably not gonna play football, So what's next for him?
- 36:29Speaker 5: Does he get a shot in the NFL? I mean,
- 36:31Speaker 5: this guy was supposedly on some big boards coming into
- 36:34Speaker 5: next year.
- 36:36Speaker 7: Yeah, I still keep seeing talk about he could go
- 36:39Speaker 7: in the supplemental draft, which is not something that's really
- 36:45Speaker 7: teams don't really use today because you've got to give
- 36:48Speaker 7: up picks for it. But I don't know that Soresby
- 36:53Speaker 7: so far in his career, his numbers are good, He's
- 36:57Speaker 7: well solid, they've been solid. But I know this was
- 37:02Speaker 7: the the hyped year, but I still have not bought
- 37:06Speaker 7: into the hype. So I don't think they're gonna teams
- 37:09Speaker 7: are gonna give up a pick to get him in
- 37:12Speaker 7: the supplemental draft. Now, next year, if he's draft eligible,
- 37:19Speaker 7: you'll probably see you'll probably see a team take a
- 37:24Speaker 7: chance that the people take a chance on far less.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Yep.
- 37:27Speaker 7: Now, he and of course he won't be you know,
- 37:30Speaker 7: because they're worried he was gonna be what third best
- 37:32Speaker 7: quarterback in the country. He won't go first round. He's
- 37:35Speaker 7: cost himself two or three rounds. Probably but I think
- 37:41Speaker 7: eventually he will get a shot, but I don't think
- 37:45Speaker 7: it's gonna be I don't think it's gonna be back
- 37:48Speaker 7: in college football. I don't think it's gonna be the
- 37:49Speaker 7: supplemental draft.
- 37:52Speaker 5: And we'll end with this hell State, make sure this
- 37:55Speaker 5: is so some stuff out here on Brian O'Connor. As
- 37:59Speaker 5: you go into the weekend at Tarvel number five recruiting
- 38:03Speaker 5: class in twenty twenty six, some have said they may
- 38:06Speaker 5: have the best transfer portal class forty to seventeen overall
- 38:10Speaker 5: record for this year, eighteen wins against SEC opponents, which
- 38:15Speaker 5: you've got to say that this whole thing's a success
- 38:17Speaker 5: now for Brian O'Connor, right, regardless of I mean the
- 38:20Speaker 5: whole deal. You check just about every box. Now, there
- 38:23Speaker 5: will be some fans if they don't go all the
- 38:26Speaker 5: way to Omaha and win the whole thing, they would
- 38:30Speaker 5: call it, you know, a little bit of a disappointment.
- 38:32Speaker 2: But I think you got to rate it an A
- 38:33Speaker 2: to A plus