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Ian Furness 10/6 H3: John Lund, talkbacks, Fact or Fiction and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrook Coors Light Cold
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  Speaker 1: as the Rockies. Seahawks making some roster moves today. One
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  Speaker 1: thing they didn't do was sign Joe Mixon. We thought
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  Speaker 1: that was going to happen. That did not happen. Mixon
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  Speaker 1: not coming to Seattle. We'll find out more tomorrow from
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  Speaker 1: head coach Mike McDonald. He'll speak to the media at noon.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. They did sign Robert Henry Jr.,
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  Speaker 1: a free agent. Well, he was on the practice squad
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  Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders from the University of Texas San Antonio, undrafted.
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  Speaker 1: Most people had a third-day grade on him, including our
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  Speaker 1: own Rob Rang. He's on the 53-man roster. They made
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  Speaker 1: another move today. A.J. Finley was released. He'll probably end
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  Speaker 1: up on the practice squad, Jakartia Wright. was put on
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  Speaker 1: the injury reserve from the practice squad. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: roster move there. Finley clears waivers. He'll end up on
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad. Probably when it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We all caught up?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect. Former Husky quarterback Michael Penix, Atlanta Falcons, showed out
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  Speaker 1: as the Falcons beat the Saints 45-24 on Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: Football law firm of Robinson & Robinson. Bijon, Brian Jr.,
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  Speaker 1: 207 and five touchdowns for the win. Man, crazy. NFL
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  Speaker 1: suspended two officials after some controversies in Week 4 games.
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  Speaker 1: Line judge Jeff Seaman and referee Adrian Hill. One game
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  Speaker 1: suspension for him, two games for Seaman. Kraken looking to
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  Speaker 1: prove they can beat teams outside of Calgary. Vegas Golden
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  Speaker 1: Knights are in town tonight. Game time 6 o'clock. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: pregame at 6 o'clock. Game time at 6.40. Right here
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  Speaker 1: on 93.3 KJR FM. We've got baseball playoffs underway. Well, soon.
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  Speaker 1: About an hour from now. Dodgers-Atlanta. Then Milwaukee and San
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  Speaker 1: Diego later on tonight at 6.30. So, yes, baseball playoffs
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  Speaker 1: are continuing. Even though the Mariners did not qualify this year,
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  Speaker 1: we are still having baseball playoffs. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: should have them. I think they should have just turfed them.
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  Speaker 1: Without us, it can't be fun, right? It can't be fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think so.
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  Speaker 1: It can't be fun. By the way, Lane Johnson retires.
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  Speaker 1: Former all-pro right tackle with the Philadelphia Eagles got banged up,
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  Speaker 1: has been out with an injury, and he announced today
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  Speaker 1: his retirement after 14 years in the national league. Football League.
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  Speaker 1: Hour number three. John Lund will join us here in
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  Speaker 1: just a couple minutes. Brought to you by Chambers Bay Distillery.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the baseball playoffs. I was going to get
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  Speaker 1: to this earlier. Are we a bad baseball city? We
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  Speaker 1: might be. There seems to be no juice. I know
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  Speaker 1: for me, there isn't. I know for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: you guys, there isn't. Baseball is somewhat like hockey in
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  Speaker 1: a sense. If your team's not in it, unless you're
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  Speaker 1: a diehard fan. Chuck Powell's watching 24-7, I'm sure. But
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of us, playing catch-up with baseball is hard. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees are in trouble. Who knew? For us, however,
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  Speaker 1: last year was so different. God, it was so good.
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  Speaker 1: So damn good. And this year, watching the Dodgers, Braves, Brewers,
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  Speaker 1: Padres today. Tomorrow, you resume the American League playoffs. Guardians
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  Speaker 1: are facing elimination. Chicago leading two games to none. And
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees trailing Tampa two games to none.
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  Speaker 3: Hard.
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  Speaker 1: Hard for me to get into it. World Series, yes. Divisional, no.
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  Speaker 1: And then looking and just... Asking myself every day what
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  Speaker 1: went wrong. And part of what went wrong maybe was
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  Speaker 1: answered yesterday. You had two guys that were hurt. Two
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  Speaker 1: of the players that you expected to be big parts
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  Speaker 1: of this team were hurt. And those guys, Josh Naylor, surgery.
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  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, Cal Raleigh, surgery. Which
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  Speaker 1: we kind of were wondering and guessing all year, like,
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  Speaker 1: is Cal hurt? Well, as it turns out, he was.
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  Speaker 1: Was Josh Naylor hurt? Was that wrist really bothering him?
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  Speaker 4: It sure seemed like it.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out it was. By a lot of metrics, Josh
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  Speaker 1: Naylor was the worst regular in baseball in the American
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  Speaker 1: League last year. But his wrist was jacked up. For Cal,
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder's jacked up. And I love guys that try
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  Speaker 1: to play through pain. Naylor's a Canadian. Of course he does.
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  Speaker 1: Tough guy. From Ontario, Mississauga. Tried to play through it. Cal,
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  Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, Cal's resistance to go on the
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  Speaker 1: injured list at the start of the year, well-documented. But
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  Speaker 1: at what cost was it? For him personally, number-wise, big.
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  Speaker 1: For the team, probably big as well. Never was right
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  Speaker 1: all year. Minor surgeries, they both should be ready by
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  Speaker 1: the time the season starts next season. But baseball players
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  Speaker 1: kind of get a bad reputation. I think sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: have a bad rap, in a sense, because they're not
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  Speaker 1: perceived as being the toughest athletes because they're not playing
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  Speaker 1: a contact sport. I think that's kind of why it's unfair.
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  Speaker 1: You're not playing a contact sport, so of course people
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  Speaker 1: will say that, right? But the minute part of the game,
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  Speaker 1: like a fraction of an inch off of a swing,
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  Speaker 1: a pitch, a throw, what have you, makes all the
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  Speaker 1: difference in the world for those guys.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you're in pain, you can power through
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  Speaker 1: on a football field a little bit more and still
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  Speaker 1: be effective.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it doesn't limit you or hurt, but you
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  Speaker 1: can power through. Hockey, well-established, guys playing on a broken leg,
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  Speaker 1: for God's sakes, whatever it is, you get smashed in
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  Speaker 1: the face and you lose a couple teeth, you're back
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  Speaker 1: out there for the next period.
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  Speaker 4: Just shove some cotton in it.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not sitting there trying to swing at a
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  Speaker 1: ball going 105 miles an hour and a fraction of
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  Speaker 1: an inch pushes you off. And I'm not questioning the
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  Speaker 1: medical staff. Justin Hollander, if you're listening to me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not questioning at all.
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  Speaker 1: But I think sometimes you've got to protect the player
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  Speaker 1: from himself. And for the good of the team and
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  Speaker 1: for the good of himself as well. I think you've
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  Speaker 1: got to do that. And this year, those two guys,
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  Speaker 1: there's part of me that kind of feels bad because
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  Speaker 1: we bashed Josh Naylor all year. And in the end,
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  Speaker 1: if you have surgery on a wrist as a hitter,
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  Speaker 1: Like that had to affect him tremendously, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and we also, I mean, people.
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  Speaker 1: Like surgery. It's not like, oh, it's bruise or snow.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like he needed ice on it.
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  Speaker 5: I know, but people bashed Cal too for, oh, he's
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  Speaker 5: not throwing runners out at second. Well, if you're having shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Surgery, that might.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he struggled.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was that same shoulder, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying there were issues.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And an oblique injury.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The oblique and everything else. You know, it's just, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's all those things. It's all those things. are you
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  Speaker 1: into the baseball? One's going to get us in a
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  Speaker 1: couple minutes. He's just finishing up. You had to do
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  Speaker 1: something on the air. Um, are you, uh, are you
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  Speaker 1: into the baseball playoffs at all? I've, I've have not
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  Speaker 1: watched outside of sitting in the studio, watching games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched a second. I kind of feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a bad sports host or a
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  Speaker 1: bad sports fan, but I don't know. There's something, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't, there's nothing out that it's grabbing me this year.
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  Speaker 1: Like nothing gets me this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I can hear you.
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  Speaker 5: I can feel that, but I have had it on,
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  Speaker 5: but watched casually, like enjoyed watching Tampa Bay win last night. Um,
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  Speaker 5: I think the Brewers are really fun to watch, although
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  Speaker 5: I don't hate the Padres.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Mariners, I know I'm supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: And so I think it's been the White Sox-Cleveland series.
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  Speaker 4: I have no interest.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care who comes out of that series. I
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  Speaker 5: do think it's pretty fascinating that the White Sox were
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  Speaker 5: so incredibly terrible last year and all of a.
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  Speaker 4: Sudden have made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: They've been terrible for a while.
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  Speaker 5: For a long time, but especially, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's incredible how all of a sudden they're good.
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  Speaker 1: That actually is the only one that I'm kind of into. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I flipped it around. I'd like to see the White
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  Speaker 1: Sox do well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're the redheaded stepchild of Chicago sports.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: They're not the beloved Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: They're not the Cubs. They're not the Bears. They're not
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  Speaker 1: the Bulls. Blackhawks have won multiple titles in the last
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  Speaker 1: few years. They're none of those things. They're the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a big part of me that says
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  Speaker 1: if they can do it, that would be kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be a good story. That would be a really
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  Speaker 1: cool story. And they're up to none. They're on the
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  Speaker 1: way to probably get into the ALCS. I think we
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  Speaker 1: all have Yankee fatigue, right? Yes, so much. And the
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  Speaker 1: Rays are interesting only in the sense that Zero payroll,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they're there every year.
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  Speaker 5: Right, and yeah, they're going to be the ones, hopefully,
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  Speaker 5: that will knock off the Yankees, and then after that,
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  Speaker 5: I won't care about the Rays.
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  Speaker 1: I have no desire to root for the Rays, because
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  Speaker 1: they don't even have fans that care about them in
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  Speaker 1: their own market.
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  Speaker 5: Right, but it's just, yeah, take out the Yankees, then
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  Speaker 5: I don't care what you do after that. And then
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  Speaker 5: I will say, too, same, I mean, I'm cheering for
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  Speaker 5: the Braves. Knock off the Dodgers, and then I don't
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  Speaker 5: care what you do after that.
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  Speaker 1: Are we all, is it an anti-Dodgers, anti- anti-Yankees world
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  Speaker 1: we live in right now. That's where I'm at. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I could see that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and how funny to have two, because I
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  Speaker 5: think the Mets have a higher payroll than the Yankees,
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  Speaker 5: is that right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they do. So you've got.
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  Speaker 5: Two of the top three payrolls, though. If they didn't
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  Speaker 5: make it even to the World Series, I would think
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  Speaker 5: it was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha!
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  Speaker 4: Do I think that's going to happen? Probably not, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm hoping for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping for it as well. Seahawks, we talked
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  Speaker 1: a lot about them. We'll wait for Lund. Talked a
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  Speaker 1: lot about them at the start of the show today,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the rivalry. We'll get to some of those
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  Speaker 1: texts a little bit later on in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: the rivalry is all about. Oh, by the way, at
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  Speaker 1: the 206, I hit the Lund over and.
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  Speaker 1: I hit the Lund and the over today. He's actually
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  Speaker 1: tied up doing his real job, which is another radio show,
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  Speaker 1: his own radio show.
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  Speaker 4: It's apparently more important than ours. I'll give him that.
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  Speaker 1: Keith Miller, you need me to give out Lund's phone number.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give him a call. We should just give
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  Speaker 1: all the listeners a call.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We could do that.
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  Speaker 4: I'll put it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lund is scared for sure. That's from another. Hey, Lund,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to San Francisco. Clara 49ers hate week. Well, they
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  Speaker 1: want him right now. See, I think I kind of
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  Speaker 1: go with what these guys are saying. He's giving us
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  Speaker 1: this excuse that they're doing.
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  Speaker 4: This is the latest he's ever been.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the following. He's nervous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He's missing half the segment just because he's working and
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  Speaker 5: he's decided to.
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  Speaker 4: Be, oh, no, he's calling us.
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  Speaker 8: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get him. Go ahead and hit the
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  Speaker 1: open while you answer the phone. Let's do that.
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  Speaker 6: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
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  Speaker 6: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
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  Speaker 1: So screw you, Lon. You'll get nothing today and you'll
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  Speaker 1: line right now at 49451, there is a lot of
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  Speaker 1: There is a lot of anti-Lund sentiment on there. You're
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  Speaker 1: afraid to come on. It's 49er hate week. That's why
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  Speaker 1: he's late today. Clearly, Lund is late. I'm sure he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to. This was not the week for you
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  Speaker 1: to pull this stunt, fella. I'm just telling you right now,
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  Speaker 1: it does not look good on you or the 49ers
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  Speaker 1: for really the face of 49er football in the Bay
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  Speaker 1: Area to be late.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am the face of 49ers football. And like
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  Speaker 3: I said, I, I'm still sitting in the penthouse of foreign. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: you played the dregs. I mean, oh, and four chargers
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  Speaker 3: and even made it, they made it a one score game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man.
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  Speaker 3: We played Denver. We played a team that, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, is formidable.
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  Speaker 3: We played a formidable opponent. You played the Chargers and
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  Speaker 3: all these other weak teams, and we've already beaten the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big word for you, by the way. That's
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  Speaker 1: a really big word for you.
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  Speaker 3: Formidable?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big word.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea what it means.
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  Speaker 7: I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: No idea. I think it means the other team's good.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what it means. First of all, I
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  Speaker 1: brought this up earlier. Look at the text. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of mixed. We're trying to figure out... The rivalry in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC West. Is it 49ers or is it Rams?
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  Speaker 1: I think I've come to a conclusion, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you guys share the same thing. I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe you're more Rams-centric down there, but I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I think for us here in Seattle, it's very much
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  Speaker 1: a three-way thing. Seattle, the Rams, and the 49ers. It
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  Speaker 1: depends on the week, the month, the year, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a three-way rivalry. Arizona, you guys aren't included in the party.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be part of it.
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  Speaker 3: No. No. Again, I don't know in terms of Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: I would think based on last year, just because those
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  Speaker 3: last two games were so good, that maybe it's a
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  Speaker 3: Rams thing and the 49ers have to force their way
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  Speaker 3: back in. Because, I mean, there's the history. You don't
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  Speaker 3: really have history with the Rams. The Niners used to
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  Speaker 3: dominate the Rams and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So it really.
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  Speaker 3: isn't from a San Francisco standpoint, I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: that the Rams aren't, even though Kyle and Sean McVay
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  Speaker 3: are kind of the same and all this, all these
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  Speaker 3: different things, it's, it's been a Seattle rivalry because of
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  Speaker 3: Harbaugh and Pete Carroll. and because they both, you know,
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  Speaker 3: want to play smash mouth football and all these different things.
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  Speaker 3: And the weird thing about it is like people in
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  Speaker 3: the Bay area hate the Dodgers. You know, they hate
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They hate those two teams and they don't have as
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  Speaker 3: much vitriol for the, for the Rams. And every time
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  Speaker 3: I try to bring it up, it's just not one
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  Speaker 3: of those things. Now the Rams beat the Niners a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years ago in an NFC championship game. Like
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  Speaker 3: I said, nobody likes Sean McVay unless you're a Rams
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  Speaker 3: fan and there's actually no Rams fan. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know who would actually like them, but So yeah, for
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  Speaker 3: the 49ers, speaking for the fan bases, I do because
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  Speaker 3: I am the head of it. The Seahawks and the
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  Speaker 3: Niners from here. But I can understand Seattle, at least
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  Speaker 3: right now, having it be a Rams thing because of
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  Speaker 3: what happened last year and winning that game in the
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  Speaker 3: way that they did in the regular season and then
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  Speaker 3: winning the NFC Championship game in the way that they did.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a better atmosphere, I'll say that, though, with
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers. I brought it up in 2023, that December
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  Speaker 1: game in 2023 when The 49ers came here and beat
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  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and Seattle on that December day, and there
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  Speaker 1: were a ton of 49er fans here. They travel really well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then a couple weeks later, Pittsburgh was here, and
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  Speaker 1: there were a ton of Pittsburgh fans here, and I
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: kind of felt like that was when Seattle kind of
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: lost for two or three years the home field advantage,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: and it was like, this is the beginning of the end,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: because Seattle fans are the same way. They travel really well.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Seahawks fans travel. Seahawks fans, 49er fans, Pittsburgh and Dallas
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: fans all kind of are the ones I feel like
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: travel the best in the NFL. They took over. Since
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: McDonald's been here, Seattle's 3-2, including the playoff game against
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: San Francisco in the five games they've played. So we'll
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: see what happens this week. Tell me this. How in
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: the hell has Brock Purdy not been sacked? Yeah, it's a.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Great point because it's four games. For the 49ers, that
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: hasn't happened since 1965. For the NFL, and press your
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: friends because I'm just a world of knowledge person, this
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: hasn't happened to begin a season since Peyton Manning in 2005,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: he went 114 straight games or excuse me, passes 114
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: shakes passes without being sacked rocks at one 13, by
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the way, the all-time record is Marino at seven 58, God,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: 758 straight passes because he did. He didn't give you
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: time to get to him. His release was so fast.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: So He's not anywhere near that, but for an offensive
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: line that is kind of maligned and Trent Williams is,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: you know, 38 years old and everything they're playing, they're
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: averaging over five yards to carry on the offensive line
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: and they haven't given up a sack. So right now
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: that's kind of what their strength is. Their other strength
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: is they've got a bunch of old guys. Most of
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: their touchdowns have been caught by 30 plus year olds.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Kittle's 32, Debo's 30, Mike Evans is 33. For some reason,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: they've got injuries all over the place, but they're 30
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: plus year old guys have been able to stay relatively healthy.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: And they're, you know, they're banged up more than any
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: other team in the NFL. It's always what they are,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: but yeah, their offensive line has been great. Their offense
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: has been the best offense in the NFL by just
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: about any metric. They there's well, their second points or
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: second yards, but I mean, across the board, third down
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: conversions and, you know, Kyle has been absolutely a mastermind,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: but the problem for the 49ers and everybody knows this,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and this isn't, isn't just Seattle, right? Mike McDonald has,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: has been the kryptonite for lack of a better word,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the kryptonite for Kyle Shanahan. This goes back to, there
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: was a game. I don't know if you remember it,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: but there was a game on Christmas night a few
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: years ago, the year before he was installed as Seattle's
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: head coach. And he absolutely just throttled the 49ers. They
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: beat him by three touchdowns. They couldn't do anything. Brock
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: was having a great year, completely neutralized him. And then
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: he's gone on to, to Seattle and done the same thing.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: In fact, again, I don't know if you'd remember this,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: but last year they put Kyle on the super bowl
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: coverage and they put them on there specifically to talk
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: about the Seahawks. And they asked him a question directly.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: They said, well, how do you beat a Mike McDonald defense?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And he goes, how the hell would I know the
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: last few times that we've played him? I haven't scored
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. Like he just, he just dead band it. Like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to beat his defense. I never
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: can beat his defense. So as well as they're playing offensively,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: and it's one of the better offenses in all of
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the league and every metric that you'll see in Brock
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Purdy's even being talked about as an MVP, he's been
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: that good. They have not done well. Kyle specifically has
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: not done well against Mike McDonald's defenses, even if it
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: was in Baltimore or Seattle.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And you know as well as McDonald's struggled against Sean McVay. Right.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: But I think it just goes back. It's a three-way thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: These three teams, you guys have just kind of rolled.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I'll joke you aside. The 49ers have just kind of
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: rolled through. Here in Seattle, we're kind of talking like, yeah,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you're 3-1, but it just doesn't feel like a good
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: 3-1 game. They haven't played a great four quarters yet.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: The old cliche, I've got to play all four quarters.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But really, if you look at Seattle, every game they've
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: had one or two good quarters, and it's been enough.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Because they're good enough to do that, and the competition
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: has been what it has been. But by and large,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: they just haven't been good enough all the way through.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You guys really, for the most part, have played four
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: complete games, right? Yeah, I would say so.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: They have those lapses, you know, and they probably will
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: now that he said that this weekend, but yeah, they
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: haven't had the lapses. And I, we said this last year,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: they went 12 and five of the most injuries in
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: the league. They're doing the same thing this year. And
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I really don't know how they're doing it because like defensively,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: they're going to have a three, seven to carry. Seattle
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't have much of a running game. I know you're
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: dealing with that. They had a decent week last off,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: obviously last week against the chargers, but trying to sign mixing,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: which didn't work out. I feel like this may be
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: an unpopular opinion or it might be the opinion of
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: record in Seattle. I think the worst off season move
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: was not signing Ken Walker. I just, what he's doing
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: in Kansas city, he's 20, you know, 26 year old guy.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's hitting his stride. I think I just,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I don't understand for all the home runs that John
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Schneider has hit. And I give him a ton of
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: credit of just win, win, win. Great move. Great move.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Great move. I don't get that one. You'd have to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: explain it to me, but they're not hitting their stride
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: because of their running game right now. And then Sam Darnold,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: this is just my amateur thing. Sam Darnold isn't a
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: carry the offense kind of a guy. That's no knock
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: on him. It says he needs the run game. Like
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks need to run game. Brock Purdy
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: needs to run game. Josh Allen needs the run game.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: They all need a balanced offense. So I think that's
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the struggle. And if, you know, up here, at least
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the prevailing opinion is, is that it's a good time
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: to be playing the Seahawks because they're going to figure
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: it out. I have no doubt. They're going to run
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the ball and they're going to figure it out. But this,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you know, it just takes a minute. And, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the difference is exact for like Brian Flurry, the offensive
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: coordinator there up in Seattle. What is he called? Four
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: games in his life. Kyle Shanahan just passed Bill Walsh
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: as the longest tenured as far as games coached. in
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the history of the 49ers at 167 games. So he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: called offenses law about 10 years before he became the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: head coach. And he's been here 10 years. So you're
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: looking at an offensive coordinator in Kyle Shanahan, that's called plays. And,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: you know, was Mike Shanahan's kid for 20 years going
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: against the guy who's calling plays for the first time in,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you know, for four games. And it was the same
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: thing last week against Denver, Sean Payton gave up play
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: calling duties to a guy in Davis web. Who's called
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: four games. And it looked like it last week. You know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: why is Christian McCaffrey not carrying the ball? Like, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: don't want to talk about your fantasy team.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: He cares about your fantasy team. This is about your
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: fantasy team. You're asking me why McCaffrey is done.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Hey, think about this though. In all seriousness, he has
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: fewer carries than Emmanuel Wilson.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like what?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: What?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Like this is, and I was the one who said
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: it was going to be fine. So I feel some responsibility,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: but I still don't care. But the thing is, is
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that the, we saw this last week, he had 15
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: carries and four receptions. So he's up to 19 for
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: his 49ers career. He averages 18 carries and about five.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So he's about 23 touches per game. And he's starting
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: to inch up towards that because Kyle just can't help it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I would imagine, because you know this as well as
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I do, and so do your listeners, that for a coach,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: they use the term trust all the time. And their
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: backup running back is Kalen Black, who's a rookie out
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: of Indiana, who they like a lot. But I don't
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: think they're going to trust him up in Seattle. So
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I expect him to get a heavy workload, because as
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: they play these tougher games... And everybody knows here's the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: main thing. Everybody knows to go anywhere. You got to
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: win this division because then you're going to be playing
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like maybe Atlanta. You're going to be in the four
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: or five matchup with Atlanta. Or if you're the third
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: place team in this division, you're going to be lower
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: than that. It's really hard Rams, Niners or Seahawks to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: go from that position. So Seattle goes to the Superbowl
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and wins it last year. because they won the division.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And if you have like the Niners last year, they
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: went to Seattle, how they won that game, which that's
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: hilarious to say, because they were never even close in
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that game. They would have had to go to the Rams.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Like who, you know, in this division, if you have
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: to be a wild card team and you have to
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: go to So let's just say the Niners last year
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: would have had to go to Seattle, then the Rams.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: You're not winning those games. So these games between these
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: two teams right now or the Rams or whatever, they're
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: incredibly important because you've got to win the division.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: This is a bigger game, by the way, for the Seahawks.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You have to win your home game. You think so? Yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I think you have to win your home game against
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the division opponents. Now, they didn't last year. They won
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the division. Yeah, I get that. But the way things
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have gone already... and maybe Darnold's going to get going
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: at some point. Seattle's running game is, they went and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: signed a guy off the commander's practice squad, and he's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on the roster now. That kind of feels like what
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you guys have gone through when McCaffrey gets hurt every
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: other year. He's not hurt yet or anything like that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but that's kind of what it feels like. You can't
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: run the ball. Darnold's not quite right. This is a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: game the 49ers probably feel like they're going to get
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: or should get, and yet Seattle being the home team,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you don't want to give that away. When's the next game,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: by the way? Is it end of the year?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It's coming up quick, isn't it? When's the next game
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: between the teams?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to look. I should have looked. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: should have been prepared. I'm not prepared for the show today. Oh, no,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: November 29th. I knew it was fairly soon, but well,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: and here's, here's the one thing. So everything I just said,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you know, they're doing great. They're scoring a bunch of points.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: They still have a major injuries at wide receiver. They
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: have major injuries along the defensive line. And the one
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: thing that Seattle can take advantage of now, obviously we're
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: going to try to run the ball.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: They've been really good.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: They have a million injuries along their D line. Like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Nick most is not going to play. And a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: of guys are out. That's unfortunate. Yeah, I'm sure. Cause he,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: he basically, I mean, I know that they won the
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: game with your good friend Tungus who's out by the way,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: last year with that catch at the end, but it
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: was Bosa who made that play that knocked the ball
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: away from Darnold. And the thing is the Niners had
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: 20 sacks last year, which was the worst in the NFL.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: They're on pace for 26 this year. They have the,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: they have one of the lowest pressure rates, lowest sack rates.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: The one thing they don't do is they don't get
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to the quarterback. So if the Seahawks are going to
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: get well in the passing game, if Sam Darnold could
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: not turn the ball over from a Seattle standpoint, double negative,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: if he continues to do that, that'd be great. But
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the Niners don't get to the quarterback. And if they do,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: what they're doing is with Raheem Morris as their defensive coordinator,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: instead of Robert Sala, who's there last year is they're
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: blitzing a lot. They're blitzing. They're bringing different guys, not
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: necessarily blitz percentages up. It's just that they'll bring a
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: safety and bring a guy back, you know, like his
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: own blitz kind of thing, or they'll bring a linebacker,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: bring a DN back or whatever, because their, their regular
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: pass rush is not getting to the quarterback. Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So RAM, 425 area code, RAMS is a big word
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: for Lund. So, like, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat, dog,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you know. People wondering.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I struggle.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of people asking if you got caught in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the substation gravitational pull. Yeah, so.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, the injuries are ridiculous. They have, I don't
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: have the number straight in front of me, but they,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: their injuries are like 40% more than, than any other team.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Like it's just like they're wider. They're down. Like you
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: were just talking about running backs. I mean, they're dude,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: they've signed Brandon cooks. They've signed, they've signed like three,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: they signed a Dante Pettis, the former Washington Husky. They
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: drafted him in 2017. He's horrible. They just brought him back,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: and he hurt his calf on the first day. They
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: have no defensive line, and they have no wide receivers.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how they're winning.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I made all the Husky fans mad. I don't mind that, actually.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: All right. Big thanks to our friends at Chambers Bay.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Original Boathouse-aged bourbon, by the way. And again, don't forget
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to check out the Town Center Tasting Room down there
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: in University Place. They've got trivia tonight. So go check
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that out. Have a great craft cocktail. Maybe I'll send
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you a bottle down there if the 49ers win. How's that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's bet something. Yeah, how about that? That's a
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: good idea.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: We'll do it off the air, because I've got to go.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You're late, and I'm late now, and I'm getting in
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: big trouble. No, come on.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Rich doesn't care. I just talked to Rich like five
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: minutes ago. He goes, take as long as you want.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I guarantee.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody's buying commercials during your show.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: There's no way. He probably did take your call, because
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he'd love to replace me with you, so that's probably
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: why he took the call.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: You have a great week. Tell all the 49er fans
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I said hello, all right?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: All right. Let's go 28... 20 49ers. We'll talk about
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that next week. And I'll expect my bourbon in the mail.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go 24-17 Seattle.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Save that, Ashley. Save that, Ashley.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Will do.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: If you guys have, I mean, you guys don't have
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the same great spirits we have up here, but you'll
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: find something to send me. All right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I make toilet water moonshine. That's my standard.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Anything above that, we're looking good. That's the Utah State
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in you. All right. I'll talk to you next week.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: See you.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: See you.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: John Lund joining us. Big thanks to Chambers Bay Distillery. ChambersBayDistillery.com.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Check it out and go look for it in your
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: local establishments. We'll take a break. Come back. Ashley, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: have the pick today. Let's keep it rolling.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Next.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: A couple of random thoughts. Are you allowed to call
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: John Lund and Go on his show live. So like
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: a live show in Seattle going on live show in
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: San Francisco at the same time. That would be pretty crazy. Also,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: if Aaron Boone gets fired by the Yankees, do we
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: want Aaron Boone in Seattle? Little Brett Aaron Boone thingy.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, hang on.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hadn't thought about that because I don't think
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: he's going to get fired.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Different radio companies, it's hard to do that little stuff
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: we used to do, but I've been on his show
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a couple times, and I'm probably going on later this week,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and you know what I'm going to do? Don't answer
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the phone call on the first time that the producer calls.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wait about 10 minutes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That's what I'll do. All right, next.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: This is the Ancient Mariner. I wasn't planning on making
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: any comments until next baseball season, but I just had
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: to say, Ian, that tie... On YouTube, it just adds
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: a bit of class to the entire operation. Way to go.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It's not even tied today, but I appreciate that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: You look like a guy who's doing a lot of
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: important stuff.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: It's a red tie. My dad was on TV anchoring
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the news. He always wore a red tie.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Blue blazer, red tie. And so I got the gray
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: suit red tie for the game on King TV tonight.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: on the Kraken Hockey Network. Ashley, let's get some Factor
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Fiction in right now. We're set to go. Glad you're
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: with us.
• 29:16
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  Speaker 1: All right, Fact or Fiction, Lucky Eagle Casino. Ashley, your pick.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go through the details in a second, but I
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  Speaker 1: see people already texting in. So what's your pick?
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  Speaker 5: They're already irritated. Okay, well, I had a hard time
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  Speaker 5: with this. I did a lot of research, actually, but
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  Speaker 5: I think these two teams have had a similar trajectory
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  Speaker 5: this season.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm going to just say the pick first, and
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: then I'll explain it. So Arizona plus four and a half.
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  Speaker 5: At home against the Lions.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. All right. Arizona at home in Glendale,
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  Speaker 1: plus four and a half against the favored Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Now, in years past, obviously, never would have made a
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: pick like this.
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  Speaker 5: That seems ridiculous. But you look at these teams, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: it's been pretty similar. Week one, Arizona, 26-14 win versus
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: the Chargers. Detroit, 31-30 win. We remember that one. Barely
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: beating the Saints. Week two, 31-7 loss at Seattle.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, we also remember that one. That was for Arizona.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: 41-31 loss versus Buffalo for the Lions at Buffalo. We
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: remember that as well, right? And then they both had losses.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Arizona to San Francisco and Detroit to Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: That was opposite weeks there.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: But then Arizona with the loss against the Giants this week. Anyway,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: point being, they're scoring about the same, losing by about
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: the same. And I think the four and a half
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: point spread is just too much, especially for a home team.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. By the way, if you're doubting Ashley, she is,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've had eight picks. Jackson's had four. So
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of people that have actually made a legitimate number of
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: picks so far this year, you're the best.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'll take that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: 63%. Ashley is at 63%.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and Jackson's getting credit probably for a pick that
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: was in.
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  Speaker 4: Honor of Jackson.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. So you're really the leader
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse right now.
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  Speaker 4: Because he's probably only 2-1, not 3-1.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're thinking, do I text fact or fiction,
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  Speaker 1: what I would tell you is this. Ashley is leading
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  Speaker 1: the way as we speak.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: The Greg Bell Show is the only show above 500.
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  Speaker 1: They're 11-9.
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  Speaker 4: We are 8-12th. We need to step up our game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: We're one game behind Chuck and Softy.
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all. But we'll get there. We'll get there.
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  Speaker 2: We will.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley going with, again, the Cardinals plus four and a
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  Speaker 1: half at home. Detroit's not right.
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  Speaker 4: There's something off. There's something off.
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  Speaker 5: And I always, I like a home underdog, especially you're
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: giving me a home underdog for.
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  Speaker 4: More than a field goal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. All right,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. That's your pick, fact or fiction. If
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you agree with Ashley, you'll text fact to 49451. If
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals plus four and a half. Fact. 49451. If you disagree, fiction.
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  Speaker 3: 49451.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like the pick. I like the pick.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Mostly I like your resume so far that you've built
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: this year. That's fair. I'll base it on I like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: your resume. I don't like my resume very much. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: really don't like Fane's because it's awful.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Mine's better. I just want to point that out. Mine's better.
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  Speaker 2: I will give you that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And Chris Kidd is winless this year, for those wondering.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: He's only had one pick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. But I picked the opposite of him, and.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I got it right. There you go. Well done. All right.
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  Speaker 1: One more time. It is Ashley taking the Cardinals plus
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  Speaker 1: four and a half at home. Text FACT if you
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  Speaker 1: agree to 49451. If you disagree, you'll text FICTION to 49451.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Softie's next. Two things of note, newsworthy-wise.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: As Dave sits down.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh, what do you got? What happened? All right, one.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: The threat of a hurricane hitting Alabama, Georgia, is real
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: enough that postponing the game is possible this weekend.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Geez.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: The biggest college football game this weekend has a possibility
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of getting postponed. You see what Kalen did last weekend,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: by the way? What'd he do?
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: Most points ever on the road against a ranked opponent
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: in Alabama history.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's cooling off for his at 4-0.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: He's got the exact same record as Nick Saban does
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: at this point of his career.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And he.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: At 2-0, people were questioning him.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Like, he's got one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: The other story... Mm-hmm. Dante McMillan has signed with the Seahawks.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: A running back. Yes. So now they've signed two running backs.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Now, the cool story about this, he went to Chief
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Self High School. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: He went to Chief Self High School. Pick him up.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, anyone else from around here want to play?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: He went to Weber State and he went to Eastern Michigan.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: But my question is, he ran for over 2,000 yards
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: at Chief Self.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think that one of your school or mine,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: while watching O'Day and Eastside Catholic and the good, because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Chief Self's not good, how did this guy get to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan or Weber? He must be pretty decent. He's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: had a cup of coffee in the NFL. I can't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: speak for you guys.
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, how did Dave Craig go from Milton College
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: to the National Football League? How did Cooper Cup go
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: from Eastern to NFL stardom? I mean, it happens, right?
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: How did you and I go from where we were
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: to where we are? Which is the same spot we
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: were in.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: That's what people have been asking all the time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, yeah, because you started there.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: So let's do the math here for a second. So
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the Henry kid... Helani, Emmanuel Wilson, Dante McMillan, Charbonnet's on
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the roster. Maybe next week he's back. Who knows? So
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: is Jadarian Price out for more than four weeks, do
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you think? If they're bringing all these dudes in. Oh,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and Valus Jones. There's seven. I think he's going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: miss more than four games. That's my gut feel on him.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: It's like we talked about yesterday, man. Would you take
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: 120 combined and two touchdowns from Wilson every week?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: And we were talking about that yesterday on the air,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: and Dick and Hugh were like, guys.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Where did you expect that of him?
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, Hugh's point is that he can't get
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: the edge.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why he's making $ 1. 5 million. That's why he
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: was available for $ 1. 5 million.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: That's why his name is Emanuel Wilson and not Russell Wilson, right?
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: So I just think in context of what we thought
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: we'd be getting out of Emanuel Wilson, I'm thrilled with
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: what we've gotten so far.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: How can you not be? I would think that they're
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: smart enough now to know that, okay, here's what his
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: limitations are. So you bring in the kid from Texas,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: San Antonio, that a lot of people thought was going
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to be an early day three draft pick. Wasn't, but
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: maybe he's the guy that has it. If I'm George Helani,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking over my shoulder. Oh, for sure. When guys
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: get healthy, that guy might be... Well, I mean, you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: think they'll keep three guys, and he won't be one
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of them. If this kid shows anything to Henry Kidd, yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: When Price and Zach Charbonnet are both healthy again, they
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: keep Wilson, presumably, on the roster.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: There's three. And Helani goes.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: To the practice squad or somebody else's roster. I loved
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: McDonald's comment yesterday when somebody asked him, why are you
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: signing Joe Mixon?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And he said, because we need backs. Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: And they're not signing Mixon now, obviously. Do you think
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: any of that had anything to do? I know they're
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: saying physical is the story. Did any of it have
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: anything to do with any blowback at all?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what? Here's my theory. This was my
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: first segment today. I know you were busy doing your
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: massive show prep.
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: No, I was over at UW doing award-winning conversations with
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: people for Friday's game.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance, my conspiracy theory, do
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you think there's any chance this is where, because of
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: what you just said, the blowback? that maybe we had ownership, uh, potentially.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, look, uh, John Schneider 10 years ago when
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  Speaker 8: they drafted Frank Clark, uh, said they would never, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: don't know if he said draft or sign, or a
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: combination of both.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I think he said that on draft night, did he not?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I think it was right before that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: That we would never bring in anybody here who we
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: thought put their hands on a woman. Well, there's a video,
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: an infamous video, of Joe Mixon dropping, clocking his girlfriend
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: at a restaurant in Oklahoma when he was in college.
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's no better evidence of a guy hitting
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: a woman than that. So this is why, I mean, look,
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: I remember saying it at the time that I appreciated
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: the sentiment out of John Schneider. But it's different for him.
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: He's a general manager in the NFL. You never know.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: Things change. Things come back to haunt you. Circumstances change.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Evidence, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I'm not saying there's
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: any evidence to the contrary in this case.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: But I'm just saying in general, you know, things sometimes,
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: context changes.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: And when you say things like that, people remember. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: they hold you to it. And they're holding them to it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are. And if you're John Schneider
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and you're a Super Bowl winning, two-time Super Bowl winning GM,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you probably feel like you can do a lot of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: things that maybe others can't do.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I think the blowback you asked for, I don't think
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they care about that unless it comes from a certain party,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and that's why I'm going back.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: You now have a female who's basically in charge of
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: the team.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: She's the governor, as they call it. Nehru Kosla. Yeah,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if whether her or someone else in
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the family said, hey, wait a second, there's a– because
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Frank Clark– I'm not condoning anything Frank did. There wasn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: a video of Frank in the hotel room with the woman.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It doesn't take much to Google Joe Mixon punch.
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: And I think there was also evidence to the contrary,
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: including some statements by some prosecutors, by the way. But,
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, what you're saying, look, I can't dismiss it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: I don't think anybody can sit here and say, well,
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: that's not the case.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: How do you know? Right? You know what I was thinking?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I said this earlier. I don't think they would ever
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: admit that. And then I thought again. I've been thinking
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: about that. Wait a second.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: If there's ever a guy who would admit it, it's
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: this guy.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: This guy has no problem.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: You just got to ask him on Twitter, though. That's
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: the problem. No one's reached out to ask on X.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: That's up to you. Why don't you handle that? I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: not handling it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I'll send him a tweet. I'll just send him a
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: tweet from the station.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You know what we should do?
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: It's like every media company will most have like a
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: dedicated like social media manager or whatever. Why don't we
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: have somebody dedicated just to ask Vinod questions online?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a great idea.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been very receptive.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I've got an idea.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Let's put Ben in charge of that. There you go.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Got nothing else to do. My God.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: How many times do you have to study the names
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: of the players on the Knights roster?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Good Lord. He's just doing the pregame. All right. What
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: do you got? His name is Boris.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: That's all you have to know. Boris what? I can't say.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I can't say. Cannot say. Said it once. Got yelled at.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: By people above me. I'm scared. Oh, really?
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Shocking that you'd get yelled at by people above you.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: What's today? Tuesday? Wednesday? What the hell is today? Is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: today Tuesday? Just stop it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I woke up today and thought today was Monday.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: Oh, I do that constantly. I have no idea what
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: day it is. Husky honks are going to be here.
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: We'll go a little bit earlier with the honks because
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: Greg's got something going on more important than us. So
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: we'll do the honks from three to four. John Wilner
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: joins at five tonight. Benton will join us from the concourse.
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: before the game with the Knights at 6. And you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: on the call for TV, right?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And right now, I've got that name. You're wearing that,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: by the way?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You're wearing that on the air? I'm going to go naked.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Better than what you're wearing. Why'd you get.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: All dressed up then just to get into your birthday suit?
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just more worried about me losing my job. It's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: part of the show. I worry about me losing my
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: job because I know his Boris thing. You're going to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: accidentally say that on the air. God, please. Come on,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: No.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I dare you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You know what? You're a big wimp.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Don't fall for the pressure.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Taking orders from the man. Taking orders from the man.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: You'll get yelled at from his high-ups and your high-ups.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: What's the guy's name again? I can't tell you. Although
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you off the air.
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: I'm going to plant it in your head before you
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: go on TV, idiot.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: See you. Bye.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.