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Should You Give Your Ex A Second Chance? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I do part two.
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  Speaker 2: It's your celebrity mentor, Cheryl Burke, and I'm joined by
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  Speaker 2: our resident favorite real life single.
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  Speaker 1: Gal, Louise. Hey, Louise, nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, nice to meet you. Still single, Cheryl, so happy
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  Speaker 3: to still have that.
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  Speaker 2: Title single unhappy? Hey, even though it's the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the year. There is a lot happening, obviously in the
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  Speaker 2: celebrity divorce space, So let's dive into this. Tell me
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  Speaker 2: about yourself first, because I feel we are doing like
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  Speaker 2: headlines without really knowing you well.
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  Speaker 3: I think the point here is is nobody's immune from divorce, right, so.
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  Speaker 4: I too have divorced you too, you said nine years.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like a really popular.
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  Speaker 3: Club, and you know, even celebrities you know, experience it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the things I always
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  Speaker 3: pay attention to, is no matter how beautiful, how amazing
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  Speaker 3: their life is, whether it's the trips that this that like,
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  Speaker 3: they are normal people who go home and deal with
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  Speaker 3: things that don't make them happy, or people do bad
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  Speaker 3: things to them. And I just think it's a universal theme.
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  Speaker 3: Relationships are challenging.
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  Speaker 2: Especially in the public eye, I think, because not only
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  Speaker 2: are you having to deal with the person you're involved with,
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  Speaker 2: but then you're dealing with everything else, the noise around you.
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  Speaker 1: So it is it is challenging.
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  Speaker 2: Though I'm not Nicole Kidman or anything like that, but
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of in a public.
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  Speaker 1: Divorce and that was very That was hard for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: I Ca'm not going to speak for my ex husband,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm sure it wasn't easy for him either. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, people are still talking about it and it's
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  Speaker 2: been over three years, and it's like it's so it
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  Speaker 2: just people like to focus I think, more on drama
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  Speaker 2: than the actual good parts.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's salacious stuff, and I think it's interesting
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  Speaker 3: for people, and it's, you know, no different than somebody
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  Speaker 3: in your group of friends that gets caught, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sleeping with a pickle ball coach and all the book
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  Speaker 3: clubs and everyone talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just people like to see people fall apart.
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  Speaker 2: All apart, Yeah, and then when they finally come out
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  Speaker 2: of it, they just like to tear them apart still,
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  Speaker 2: like it doesn't it just but that says more about
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  Speaker 2: the person tearing that person apart than it does.
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  Speaker 3: About I always have taught my children that the person
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  Speaker 3: who talks badly about somebody looks bad, not the one
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  Speaker 3: who's being talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's because they're triggered.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously whatever it is that's triggering them has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with you, And it's really none of our
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  Speaker 2: business what these people say about us, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's easier said than done, but it really is obviously
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  Speaker 2: a trigger for that person, whatever it may be, whether
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  Speaker 2: they are wanting to be like you or there's they
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  Speaker 2: don't understand how you were able to come out of
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  Speaker 2: such darkness, you know, to where you are today, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's where they still are.
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  Speaker 1: You just never know.
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  Speaker 3: People a lot of times don't root for people, sadly.
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  Speaker 1: Especially women.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of divorce, let's talk about Amy Schumer files for
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  Speaker 2: divorce from her husband, Chris Fisher after over seven years
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  Speaker 2: of marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, have did you hear about this?
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  Speaker 4: I did?
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  Speaker 3: And they have a little one, which is you know,
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  Speaker 3: just tough. Yeah, so that makes it hard when there's children.
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  Speaker 2: I guess she just filed for divorce on Tuesday, January sixth,
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  Speaker 2: and basically it was I guess a shock to some people,
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  Speaker 2: but within their inner circle, not so much. But it
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  Speaker 2: seems like it's amicable for the most part. She said
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  Speaker 2: that Chris and I have made the difficult decision to
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  Speaker 2: end our marriage after seven years. We love each other
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  Speaker 2: very much and will continue to focus on raising our son.
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  Speaker 2: We would appreciate people respecting our privacy at this time.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like everyone just says the same line every
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  Speaker 2: time they announced the divorce. But it is true, and
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  Speaker 2: no one's going to respect your privacy unfortunately. But I
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  Speaker 2: guess the source says it's close, it's a cohesive split,
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  Speaker 2: and they've just been finalizing a few things.
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  Speaker 3: Remember that phrase, the Gwyneth and the Chris. What is
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  Speaker 3: that conscious uncoupling? Yeah, of all the ones that we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about, this one actually does feel tonally
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  Speaker 3: like the one that might be the most benign and friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, well, what does that mean? Like, does that mean
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  Speaker 2: that they just both lost interest? Or like, what does
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  Speaker 2: that mean?
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  Speaker 4: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes people just over time they're just not
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  Speaker 3: aligned anymore, or they become more like friends, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: the passion goes away or one grows in a different
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  Speaker 3: direction than the other.
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  Speaker 4: But it's not like.
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  Speaker 3: Something bad happened, like there was infidelity or a massive
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  Speaker 3: drag addiction.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like our time, our chapter is done. We
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  Speaker 4: share this child. We're always going to be a part
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  Speaker 4: of each other's lives.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like this is the most vanilla of
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  Speaker 3: the ones that we're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I hope, So I hope that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you just never know, right like, because something
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  Speaker 2: could trigger somebody, like if what if someone starts dating
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  Speaker 2: before that person, Like, it can get real ugly really fast.
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  Speaker 2: When you say, when you say that, maybe the passion
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  Speaker 2: dies down. See for me, it's kind of like what
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  Speaker 2: is like, what do you mean by the passion? Because
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  Speaker 2: it's like the honeymoon phase. Is the honeymoon phase we
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  Speaker 2: all go through. We all love that, right Like it's
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  Speaker 2: always the fun and we all do relationship and it
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  Speaker 2: does no, but it does, but it does. And it's
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  Speaker 2: then then that's when the dirty work comes in. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, are you willing to put the dirty work in?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you're not, there is no uh for sure,
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  Speaker 2: your passion is never going to come back because you
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  Speaker 2: have to like reintroduce yourself to each other. Look, you guys,
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  Speaker 2: all we all as individuals, we evolve as humans, and
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  Speaker 2: it just has to it takes work.
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  Speaker 4: I almost think it's more than that because I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's so important that the two people and the
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  Speaker 3: couple are actually best friends, right because at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day, you know, the butterflies go away, things
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  Speaker 3: change in the relationship. But if you're still friends and
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  Speaker 3: you still can laugh, then you have the you could
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  Speaker 3: potentially go the long haul.
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  Speaker 4: I think for me, my ex husband and I were
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  Speaker 4: just not best friends.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean that there was no communication, because like,
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  Speaker 2: what is best friends? Like what does that entail? Right?
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  Speaker 1: In entail's honesty, transparency.
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  Speaker 4: It's your vault.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the person that you're comfortable, you know,
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  Speaker 3: being next to on a park bench looking at the
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  Speaker 3: birds quietly. But it's also the person that you're laughing
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  Speaker 3: hysterically with and excited to see when you come home.
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  Speaker 3: But what when two people basically are living under the
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  Speaker 3: same roof and there's zero communication, connectivity, interest, and you're
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  Speaker 3: just coexisting like roommates like roommates, and then it's done.
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  Speaker 3: But the interesting thing is when you just meet somebody
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  Speaker 3: and it's kind of like the falling in love.
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  Speaker 4: Which is the lush, right, But.
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  Speaker 3: Then loving somebody is totally different, right, And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about you. I'm in my mid fifties,
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  Speaker 3: and I find that I'm trying really hard when I
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  Speaker 3: go on a date to basically stick it out, to
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  Speaker 3: go out a few more times if I don't have
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  Speaker 3: the butterflies. Because the truth is I used to sit
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  Speaker 3: on a date and be like at point A and.
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  Speaker 4: Be like, oh, is this my person? Could I see
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  Speaker 4: my life for them?
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  Speaker 3: Now what I do is I sit there and say
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  Speaker 3: is this person interesting enough to talk to? Does he
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  Speaker 3: have right good moral compass that I opened going on
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  Speaker 3: a second time and then a third time?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's smart.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So the whole butterfly thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's very high school maybe in a way.
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  Speaker 2: But it's almost like those those movies that we see
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  Speaker 2: are so toxic, those love stories, those rom coms, freaking
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  Speaker 2: what's it called the Notebook? Like, first of all, there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing romantic about a guy stalking you, Like does he
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  Speaker 2: straight up stock? Ryan Gosling is stalking her? And we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we want someone to do that with us.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what this is like the wrong message?
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: But sometimes though you say to yourself like, well, am
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  Speaker 3: I just fitting a square peg into a round hole.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's so confusing.
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  Speaker 1: Now, is it confusing? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm all confused on it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we think, I think socially right, there's so
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  Speaker 2: many so societal expectations when it comes to Like, for me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm forty one, and you know, people are like, aren't
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  Speaker 2: you so lonely? I'm like, no, I'm actually loving my
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  Speaker 2: life living alone, and I enjoy it almost too much.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have drama, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I have had an interesting past of relationships where it
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  Speaker 2: just followed the same toxic pattern that.
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  Speaker 1: I was just not a great picker.
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  Speaker 2: I think that people expect someone like any woman in
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  Speaker 2: their forties to have already have had children that have
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  Speaker 2: been married, and like, then if not, then oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: she's not well there's something wrong with her, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's so confusing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But at the same time, also it's it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like, I don't know about you, but I would
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  Speaker 3: say eighty percent of my closest friends are all divorced
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  Speaker 3: or never been married, and we're in our mid fifties.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that the difference.
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  Speaker 2: Now, are you happy being single or do you feel
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  Speaker 2: like you need to have somebody in your life it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't need to have somebody in my life
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  Speaker 3: because I have, you know, a lot of friends. I
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  Speaker 3: have a big career, I have a lot in my
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  Speaker 3: in my day that's fulfilling. I'm also very happy to
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  Speaker 3: be home reading a book or going on a walk.
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  Speaker 4: So unless it speaks to me, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Need my bills paid, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 3: unless it like speaks to me in my heart, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't need it. Would I like somebody.
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  Speaker 1: That you a companion?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that I really like, right, because I go
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  Speaker 3: out with a lot of people that's just not totally right.
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  Speaker 3: And then you throw on a person's attachment wounds and
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  Speaker 3: then the it comes and then there it's you get
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  Speaker 3: it right. It's kind of like anxious attachment avoidant attachment.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, if I was into girls, then I would totally
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  Speaker 2: be attracted to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, anxious people love me, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, and here's what happens. The more
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  Speaker 3: they come at me, the more I feel like this,
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  Speaker 3: and the more I feel like this, the more they
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  Speaker 3: come at me, and it's having me, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Almost inevitable that anxious and anxious and what are you
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  Speaker 2: avoidant always marry each other always. It's just unless you're
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  Speaker 2: secure attachment, which is very rare, especially in the Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles area.
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  Speaker 3: I would assume I don't know many people secure attachment
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  Speaker 3: because I think we all have stuff in our cuff
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  Speaker 3: or in our cup as life goes on, and I
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  Speaker 3: think ultimately people just trigger each other differently, and it's
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  Speaker 3: really that do our wounds line up and exactly?
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  Speaker 2: And also you can still change your attachment if you
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  Speaker 2: want to, just saying we're not like stuck to this
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  Speaker 2: one attachment to the rest of our lives, Okay. Nicole
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  Speaker 2: Kidman and Keith Urban finalized divorce. Settlement details revealed so
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  Speaker 2: three months after Nicole filed for divorce from Keith, the
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  Speaker 2: former couple of finalized the breakup in documents obtained by
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  Speaker 2: a News January sixth, Come what may, Nicole and Keith
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  Speaker 2: will always be there for each other till the end
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  Speaker 2: of time. Three months after the mullin Ridge actress filed
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  Speaker 2: to legally end her nineteen year marriage to the Somebody
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  Speaker 2: Like You singer, the former couples officially finalized their divorce
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  Speaker 2: according to legal documents, so basically all in all, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this is as amical as it may sound,
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  Speaker 2: or I would think he's definitely moved on, right, I
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  Speaker 2: mean from what I saw. Again, I don't don't believe
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  Speaker 2: everything you read. I don't you know, I am, I
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  Speaker 2: know that, but there, I think it's it happened quickly
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  Speaker 2: for us, not necessarily. We don't know what happened in
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  Speaker 2: their world. She seemed very much in love with him.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like either side.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was her decision put it that way.
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  Speaker 3: And her daughters were they mad too about something I
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  Speaker 3: had read.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. They're also grown enough.
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  Speaker 2: They're seventeen and fourteen, Sunday Rose and Faith Margaret Right,
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  Speaker 2: they're old enough to know what the hell's going on.
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  Speaker 2: And I come from a divorce family. My parents got
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  Speaker 2: divorce when I was too. I think it's so much
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  Speaker 2: easier when you're not as you know, you're not able
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  Speaker 2: to really put two and two together at that moment
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  Speaker 2: than to be teenagers going through and seeing your parents.
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  Speaker 1: I would only.
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  Speaker 4: Assume it was eighteen. It was awful. I remember all
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  Speaker 4: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's very very Yeah. I mean, my first memory
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  Speaker 2: I remember was my dad with another woman at two
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  Speaker 2: years old. But again I wouldn't I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it would have affected me. I think it would have
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  Speaker 2: affected me more if I was older. Maybe I don't
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  Speaker 2: know either way.
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  Speaker 3: And it's also hard when you worry about a parent
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  Speaker 3: and not the other one. And so what I've read
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  Speaker 3: with this and again not everything is true. But whether
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  Speaker 3: it's smoke, maybe there's fire in this case, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know in this one because that girl and the band
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  Speaker 3: or the singer, and then you see this thing with
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  Speaker 3: the daughters Matt, I don't know, seems something there. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think this is as calm and friendly as the
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  Speaker 3: first one.
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  Speaker 1: As Amy Schumer, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: This one's a little more chocolate than vanilla.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're going to be like
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  Speaker 2: the next headline with Kyle and you know, Maricio spending
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  Speaker 2: Christmases together and Holidays together. You know, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: they're ever going to get there as far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I think I don't know from what
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  Speaker 2: I saw outsider Big Time. Don't know them personally, but
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  Speaker 2: like it seemed to me that Nicole was head over
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  Speaker 2: heels even was willing to deal with his alcoholism, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I get I'm an addict and that if you
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  Speaker 2: let it take over, and if you don't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: want to do the steps to be sober and get better,
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  Speaker 2: it will take you there.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's dark, but.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like he was there supporting him and and very devoted.
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  Speaker 2: And it's hard, very sad. It's really sad, and it's
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  Speaker 2: sad for the K's. What do you think of this
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  Speaker 2: settlement though? In particular, I.
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  Speaker 3: Guess well, I feel like we all found out about
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  Speaker 3: it later. I think it had probably been going on
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  Speaker 3: for a while, because it just seems like it's not
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  Speaker 3: stamp pretty quickly. I mean, I think mine took six
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  Speaker 3: months right before that stamp came. I don't know, what
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  Speaker 3: do you mean, stamp like the divorce settlement stamp like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mine took six months at least.
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  Speaker 4: Right, But this one I feel like was quicker.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason.
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  Speaker 2: So the document states each party indicates that he or
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  Speaker 2: she does not want to proceed with formal discovery, including
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  Speaker 2: completing interrogations, in requests for production of documents or discovery
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  Speaker 2: depositions that are designed to discover assets and debts.
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  Speaker 1: So they are going to split everything. I guess is
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  Speaker 1: that what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I think that they just don't want to go through
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  Speaker 4: the whole thing with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, with having all their books open and all the
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: skeletons taken out of the closet.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have a prenapp obviously because.
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  Speaker 3: They settled or they settled quietly something just to have
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  Speaker 3: stuff not come out in the public.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, because when you have a prenup, I
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  Speaker 2: mean I had a prenup. Everything was quite simple. There
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  Speaker 2: was really there was no I mean there was nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It was written prior to our marriage, right like what
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever it was, It's like, it was quite
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  Speaker 2: None of this was like I didn't even.
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  Speaker 3: Feel like maybe there was an understanding like what's hers
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  Speaker 3: is hers, what's his is his? And so therefore it
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  Speaker 3: was easy to buifurkid or whatever the word is on
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  Speaker 3: that front. But they had to have some sort of
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  Speaker 3: agreement because they were both uber successful when they met.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I don't think yeah exactly, and they're
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  Speaker 2: both going to be fine without each other. They both
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: can support their own lives and the children's lives.
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  Speaker 1: I would assume comfortably. We would think, now you never know,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. We don't know.
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  Speaker 4: That one was a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was big time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was definitely surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was an alcoholic. I had
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  Speaker 1: no idea that was kept quiet. I know. That's a
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  Speaker 1: scary part. That's scary.
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  Speaker 2: And I have to say, when I was drinking, no
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: one knew either because I was functioning.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So it is scary.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: And she probably kept it really quiet too.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: And so I just like a family, a family secret
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: or just in our circle.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: And imagine like just the feelings of shame and guilt
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: and god, it's like dark, it's dark.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: But sad for those girls because at fourteen and seventeen,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: they're still in the house, but yet they want to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: live their life, meaning they're starting probably with you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: all the teen girls stuff, and also to worry about
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: their whole family foundation, fowing magazines, worrying about.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Their mom or dad maybe fall I don't.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Know, it's a lot for girl. I mean, to deal
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: with a stepmom.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, sounds like you had a few of those.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: No, I had not mom, No, I mean technic my
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: dad was This is a long, long story. Short, he
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: followed his past pussy and went to Thailand open strip clubs.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: He was a very successful lawyer in the bar area,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and so I had a bunch of stepmoms probably, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: we won't go there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Rest and pacey. Then okay, got it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: You turned out. That's all good.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: So thanks therapy though for the rest of my life,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm proud of it. Kyle Richards and estranged husband
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Mauricio Umansky or Umanski stand after spending holidays together. So
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: basically they spent it sounds like Christmas and New Year's together.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: They seemed very lovey dovey when they went to what's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: her name's Uh there some party in Aspen. Hey, Hudson,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the Hudson's Party. Yes, and Aspen. They were all over
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: each other supposedly, but supposedly the people in there inner
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: circles say, there's no chance that they're going to reconcile.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts with this?
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: No, Like I always kind of liked them together, Like, yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I kind of.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Losing the passion. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with them.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I kind of don't think so
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I'll still feel an energy sometimes when I look at
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: them together, and they I kind of feel.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Like if any of the couples were talking about could
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: have a potential reconciliation, it would be them, because I
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: think they were happy for a long time or so
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it looked, and they were married a long time.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like I do.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I have seen couples get divorced and then I have
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: friends that literally got divorced and are dating again, like.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: They're dating their ex husband. Yes, I was, Oh my god,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: that's so crazy.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: So I actually think that's I don't know, like, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's a function of like, Okay, we've
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: been out there, we've seen what else is out there?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Like the devil I.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Know was better than the devil I didn't know, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: we still the good things that were in a relationship
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: still exist, right, and we have this life together.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: So then why not do it again?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Or maybe they've been alone for so long that like
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: they do want a companion or something.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: He has not been alone.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: No, I know him.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, the people that I've seen, oh,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you know that get back together. I don't know, No,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: he I mean.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think, honestly, you're right, though, when it
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: comes to when you you know, you never know what
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you have until you actually lose that person. And sometimes
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you just need a little space to bring the heat back.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It's just the way it is, you know, some space
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and grace and maybe dating again is what makes them,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you know, have that spark. But let's just commend them
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: for this is talk about like an actual divorce in
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: front of their kids, where everything's amicable. They never talked
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: bad about each other, especially you know, for him when
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: he kind of rose to fame when he did.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Especially divorced. Yet I think they're just separated.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: No, they're just I think they still live together right
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: under the same roof. I believe that's what I read.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. There's no way that's true.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe they do that nesting thing. I think, is there
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: one or two kids at home?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a reason why they're not divorced.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's just ugly. It would get kind
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: of complicated.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I think some people at this point they figure over
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: with the money situation and the kind of unraveling of
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the estate, like why not still legally stay married? But
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I need separate lives I have seen it
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: before with tons of my friends that they just don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: break up the estate. They still have one shared account,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: they file joint tax return and they just live separate lives.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: But they're more and it works.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: My mother kept my father's last name still and she remarried,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, I don't know why.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think she created a business.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to the Ratio and Kyle, they
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: had no money when they started, when they were together,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: They don't have They probably don't have a prenap because
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: at that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Age, yeah, what are they protecting?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: But you know what's really.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Interesting what I'm hearing now is that a lot of
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: parents are having their children now sign prenaps even when
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: there's no money and no careers.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Just a lot of their parents say that again.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: So the theme right now now and so I have
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: children that are in their mid mid upper twenties, and
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the theme now for all of these kids is when
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: they're getting married, they're signing prenups even though there's no
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: money yet.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: It's an anticipation of it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: So god forbid the marriage goes south, they already have
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a deal in place.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Isn't that smart?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: So smart. I thought that for sure.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: This next generation too, they just didn't believe in marriage
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: for the most part. So I was like, God, you guys, Yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a millennial, so like I think, you know, we
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: got kind of stuck in the trauma of our generational
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: job of our parents.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: The marriage thing is interesting though for my general I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: don't know. Am I I think maybe? Am I a
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: different generation?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Can you?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: No?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, what hell do you mid fifties? I think
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I'm a different.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Generation maybe, And if you're not, then yeah, oh I'm jenax,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Oh you're.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I just look up.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting because I get asked this question a
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: lot is would you ever get remarried again? And when
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I first got divorced, I was like, no, why would.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to share money at kids. I'm just
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: going to do my thing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: But we could date, have a companionac to wear it
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: ring like a But totally I've gotten older and as
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I think I would get remarried now more for the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: concept of somebody being able to pull the plug on me.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: God forbid, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Can't you have your parents do that? Or your kids? Sorry,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: your kids.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: That's a hard thing for a kid to do. I
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: don't know totally.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying my black and white, it's just.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: A contract, right, like it's a contract.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean you can also do your estate plan as well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and you can make those decisions that way.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: But they it's interesting because the second marriages, and there's
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: a higher percentage chance of a second marriage entering in
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: divorce in a first because oh really yeah, once a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: person has gotten divorced once and survived it, they say, oh,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: it's not that hard, so it's just easier throw in
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: the towels second time if you've already thrown in the towel.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: So you see that a lot more.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I just one of my very best friends whose second
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: marriage was seventeen years.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: She just got divorced.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, so it's I mean, you look at most
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: first marriages are fifty percent.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I think second marriages are like seventy percent. It's not sad.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well I thought would be the other way around.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I don't pair
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: either way really, but I'm not as it. Like before,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: when I first got married, I was like, yes, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: need to get married. It was more, it was more
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: about me getting married than kids. Ever, like my whole
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: life it was like that, Like I never really dreamed
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: of having kids as much as my marriage.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Now that I got that out of the way, we're good.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But one last thing and then we can move on
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: to the next thing. Every time I tell my children
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: somebody we know is getting divorced or friends of ours,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: they look at me and they go, so, doesn't everybody
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: get divorced. It's like, no, they're so sad, so jaded
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: because they look around at like I'm divorced, my brother's divorced,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: my parents are divorced, my ex husband's they are divorce.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just everywhere they turned sad. I know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: so moving on to another divorce, moving on to another divorce.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But I really like, I don't know her, but she
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: seems really genuine. Jennifer Gardner makes rare comments about her
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: hard divorce from Ben Affleck.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Am I seeing things? Maybe maybe you can.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Confirm or not, But did Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: just like get seen out together like canoodling versus old footage?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I read that also. I was kind of hoping he
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and Jennifer Garner would get I.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Mean they were.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: There's no way Jennifer Gardner would never do that to herself.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: She's like, she's very I say, as brounded as you
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: can be, as you can be in this business. Right,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: she seems to be. She seems to be very genuine
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and authentic. Don't know her, don't know, but she does
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: seem a little too good for him.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: The son, I don't know, Well, good girls like good
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: girls like that, I.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Don't think, but I don't think she's like that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think she got She's not going to go
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: back to it now. If he and Jennifer go back
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: to the rodeo for a third time.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They are they just they were just seen together. It's crazy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: That's just toxic. And they both have to know that
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: going into it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think they.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Do, and that's why they keep going back to it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's like, you, guys, you're an ex for a reason.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Period. I married an ex.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It's like once something already has had this seal broken,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: it's it's still kind of existing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, it's the same person.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Like we evolved, but we don't really we don't really change.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: No, people do not change.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Not true, Not true.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Only if you're aware, if you're very much aware and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: like present as much as possible, and you take accountability.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You can change. I change. I'm anarcoholic.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think people can act, but I think sometimes
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that default behavior will rear its head again in the
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: heat of a yes, but in a conscious moment where
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you can stop and pause and react differently.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've made tense evolved.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: If you are willing to like like take the whole thing,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it has to be the whole thing. It's a whole package.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You have to know that you're not perfect and you're
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: not a narcissist. If that, if you can do that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And you're actively doing work on yourself all the time,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and so you're it's really about pausing and not reacting
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and trying to look at somebody else landing instead of
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and looking at somebody else's lens and just yeah, and.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Always know that your work in progress. Everybody is. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: don't give who you are.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Nobody's in the language.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Gardner, so if she's giving rare insight into her separation.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: She spoke to Mary Claire UK about life now in
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the upcoming second season of her TV show on Apple TV.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: She says, you have to be smart about what you
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: can and can't handle. And I could not handle what
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: was out there. But what was out there, she said,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: was not what was hard. The fact of it is
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: what was hard, she says. It's the actual breaking up
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: of a family is what was hard. Losing a true
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: partnership and friendship is what was hard, she said. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: she says, I make a big, consorted effort to see
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: my people as much as I can. She was basically asked,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you know how she was able to handle all of this,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and she saw community and she thinks that that's where
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: your resilience is. It's in your relationships and in the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: people who carry you through. Can you relate to what
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Jen said about divorce.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So it's really easy to be there for people in
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the good times, right when.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: It's parties and cocktails and trips and this.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: That you learn who your people are when your chips
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: are down and yep, and you really do.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: And as much as it's hard to.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Whittle it down, quality not quantity matter so much more
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: when you get to that place, right And so when you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Go through a divorce, you learn who.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Your friends are and right, and I'm super grateful for
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: my tribe.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: But getting divorce is hard. My kids were young.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Nothing salacious happened in our divorce.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: We just were not a good fit. But our kids
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: were young.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Helen, Were you married for fourteen years? Wow?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: And we are best friends?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, now you are. That's great.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: No, we we had when we first got divorced.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Our child had some medical stuff, so we had to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: stay united on that front. And what I learned in
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: our divorce is the best things of him still exist
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and the best things of me still exist, and we
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: really appreciate that. And as co parents, we were locked
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: and loaded on that and it was just great, right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And actually we enjoy each other. I mean we talk
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Is there any like?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: No, I love his fiance, I love her kids. Like
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: we are like one big, modern, happy family. And I'm
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: very grateful that I married him and that he's the.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Father of my children.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice of you to say, genuinely, that's so great.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: How long How long did that take to get there?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: From your divorce?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Look, when you're first getting divorced and you're just kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of unraveling everything, it's it takes a minute to recalibrate.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Years was pretty easy, Like within like a year or two.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But I would say we really became friends, like in
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, like really friends. Like I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: was going to get a mammogram and was like, do you.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Need a ride? I was like, oh no, no, ma,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: like genuinely friends.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And he had had some surgery and his fiance wasn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: in town and so.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I picked him up. I mean, it's more like we're
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: brother and sister.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: How's the fiance handling that, Oh, we love each other?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Because let me chage that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: He hasn't he didn't change, I mean he makes change. Similar. No,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: we just sit there.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I look at her and I'm like, like, it's so funny.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: But she's so great.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: She's rad.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: But guess what age appropriate has an amazing job, which
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: means she has her own money, has her own children.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: She's like a best case scenario. It's not like the
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: guy who dates.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It's not like underage. Yeah, it's the young girl or
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: your daughter's best friend.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Right, or is like a total gold digger or whatever
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it is. So it's kind of like winning, right.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Right, you respect her, ultimately respect her.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I want to be her best friend.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And how are your kids? Handling it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, they they haven't pay They love it. They think
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: it's great.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Initially when you guys divorced it, they were now I
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: mean they were, they were, they were young.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I think for them it was yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I think they were, you know, second and
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: fourth grade. So it's hard. Yeah, it's hard.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It's hard.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing. Let's move on to Tom Brady, shall we.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady shares cryptic posts. I think people need to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: literally start looking into their lives and not Tom Brady's.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: After spending time with Alex Earl on New Year's Eve, Okay.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I want to be Alex Earl.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, first of all, who can. They're
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: both of age one two, they can do whatever the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: hell they want.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I think the single, single and thought and if they
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: want to have a one night stand or ten night stan,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: so be it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: And we all I want to read about.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I watched her on TikTok in college, like
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: he's obviously do.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: You watch her on Dancing with the Stars.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I actually did not watch it on her on Dancing House.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But one I like her and I do too.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: She's she's relatable for me. I don't know, I just yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: she's cool, and I think the two of them together
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  Speaker 4: is cute and fun. And whether I don't think I'll
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: go at the distance, maybe it will.
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  Speaker 1: But it kind of I mean, yeah, even if she
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: how old is she?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: She's watched two twenty four and and he is, it
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But at the end of the day, it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: not like they are having a quiet affair, Like, yes,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: there was flirting happening, but like, oh well now. The
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: only weird thing though, is that, uh, I can see
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: why the other party meeting her ex, who's also a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: football player they had just broken up.
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  Speaker 4: It was a little close. It was a little it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Was a little close, but it was also like in
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  Speaker 2: the same in the same field, you know, I can
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: see how that kind of irks people, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's also because he also has an eighteen
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: year old child, so it's kind of like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, how old is how old is he?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: How old is he?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: He is, Like he's got to be in his late forties, right, yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So but I.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe maybe his eighteen year old son thought
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: it was like do a dad, go for it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: He's probably a fan of Alex Yeah he's forty then.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, it was like a twenty three year
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: different what's big ague?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Who was downing?
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: You know what? Hey?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I mean she's dating one of the biggest, most important
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: football I don't think.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't see it getting so serious. I don't know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, like who but who care?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: People are still talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: They may not even be talking to each other anymore
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: at this point, you know what I mean, And there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Will be a new headline that comes out, right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But if they're still talking to people are still talking
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Well, there's some cryptic posts, right, I mean, we're toxic.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, like, okay, so what are the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: something you want to read them are?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: What? What's one of them?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Didn't his ex wife just get remarried, she's get she's
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: about to I think No, she got remarried, has a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: she's pregnant, or she had a baby Zell Gazelle.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So one of the posts said people are not beautiful
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: from So this is from Tom Brady. People are not beautiful.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: This is on January first, for how they look or speak.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: They're beautiful for how they love, care and treat others. Okay, great,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I mean that's not cryptic. Okay, Okay, thanks for your message.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Right, But he's reposting it. But where is it directed to?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Who's it directed at?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: But what type of cryptic? What are they? People are
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: reading way too into this.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Sorry, guys, I gotta jump in here. I just don't
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: want you getting flamed in the comments. Posting this on
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: January first, which is when they are going viral for
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: being together on New Year's Eve.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: They were not they were it was a sling. It
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't mean together totally.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying she's rubbing his back. They're holding hands
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: like it's not Yeah, I did.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: That's right. She wants that attention. I'd be rubbing his
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: back too if I were her.
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  Speaker 5: Heca X got married a month ago. All I'm saying is,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: it's not like, why are people drawing attention, It's because
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: he's literally posting this the day after he's going viral.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Doesn't he always post stuff like this?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I don't follow the dude.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he's probably trying to like be in
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a situation like this because he's priced a little stung
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: that his ex wife is remarried with the baby.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You guys, this is he's a motivational speaker.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Now like this is what he So Tom Brady is
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: very much well respected right as an athlete, and he
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: still is to this day, and he is definitely out
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: there doing motivational speeches and he's trying to get into
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that whole world. This guy posts stuff like this all
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the time. There's like if there's no cryptic, it's also
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: January first. You need to be if you're going to
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: get into this world of like, you know, being somebody
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that people look up to. That is absolutely normal to repost.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a like Tony Robbins makes a comment like
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that has some depth and texture and gets people talking
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and thinking. So you are right, he's trying to reimagine
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a new career for himself and he's going to go
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: this route. So therefore start talking about like, you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the different things like.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, we all have millions of people look rejection as
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: redirection or.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: You know, saying there's all these things like you know, butterflies,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: they just.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Come out of nowhere, Like come on, right, you know
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: This is not like some random rapper all of a sudden,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: you know, wanting to be about talking about mental health.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Like no, this guy is it fits put it that
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: way if the shoot because.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: He's a leader and people will respect and listen him.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: So he is somebody who could take a platform like
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: that and make an impact with people.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And then here's another one and says a winner is
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a loser.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: A quote was followed by another repost of a graphics
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: featuring ninety nine x's, followed by one check mark that
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: proclaimed that a winner is a loser who tried one
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: more time again.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's just a motivational thing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: You can go onto my Instagram folders. I have so
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: many quotations and meditations that I manifestation things that I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: save all the time.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Especially on threads.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I do it all the time, like come on now, boo.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: People need to like literally chill.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're bored.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it was nice to meet you.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: It was really nice to chat with you, and.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Thanks for opening up.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Happy Oh no you too, of course, Happy New Year
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: to you, and I hope you need to see you
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: soon or talk.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: To you soon.
• 36:42
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• 36:44
  Speaker 2: One things for sure, there is never going to be
• 36:46
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