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Ohio State Standout Out For The Season, Plus Another Crazy Twist In Michigan Sign-Stealing Scandal · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, November
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first time your host Tom Or. The Rutgers game is in three days,
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the game against Michigan in twenty four days. Joint live inside what he has
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a flave center by Tony with Tourny go not by Tony Garman. I don't
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know anyway, Tony, Tony's here, we're we're at the Woodie get to
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talk to I have to head coach Brian Day. I'll has the defensive coordinator
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Jim Knowles about a whole mess of stuff. I guess, Tony. Let's
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just right off the top, give everyone a little bit of an injury update
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as much as we can. There were lots of questions, and then right
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at the end it was like, and oh, by the way, a
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pretty sick High Day player is out for the rest of the season. Yeah,
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hey, Ryan, is there an update on Minan Williams. Yeah,
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he's actually out for the season. I had a procedure done and is done
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for the year. And you know, we we'd wondered, like he just
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showed up on the availability report last week and it's like this is odd,
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and so I had you're done. I think he said not an ACL,
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which is about as I think maybe Biller Bennewitz or Joey Kaufman asked for is
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it an ACL, and he's like no, So there's only forty other things
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that could be. But unfortunately, yeah, done for the year. If
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you make us play the process of a llumination game, it's not technically a
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hip a violation fun fact. I don't know, maybe it is probably not
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elsewhere on the team. In terms of injuries, com Acord banged up,
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sounds like he's gonna go. Devin Brown still banged up, but sounds like
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he's going to practice some and then they'll just kind of see how it goes.
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I thought it was very interesting. Ryan Day was asked a couple of
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times like so when you're a quarterback like Comiccord and you have you know,
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we saw him walking out with an enormous bag of ice and maybe even a
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walking boot on that left ankle, So I don't think it's a tremendous you
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know, mystery what the injury is. So he was, you know,
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Randon was asked, you know, so when you have a lower body injury
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like that with a quarterback, how does that impacts he really didn't want to
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talk about. Like he answered, he got asked the question twice. He
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answered two questions. Either of them was that question. So, yeah,
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I think it's pretty obvious if just thinking about it, like lower body,
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you're going to be driving with your back leg and planting on your front leg,
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so that's gonna you figure, that's got to impact his play. But
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with Devin Brown still you know, sort of a little bit of a question
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mark right now, and Christian Jebbia being the next man up after that,
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you get the sense we're going to see Tom McCord almost no matter what this
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weekend. Yeah, and it's you know, if it would be his right
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foot or right ankle, that's what you're you know, throwing off of,
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but just dropping your you're pushing off of your left dropping back, so like
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there's gonna be some pain, some delay there and you know, timing just
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whatever it is. But yeah, it was interesting. He didn't really want
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to say like, well this is why this was or you said everybody's banged
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up this time of year. My question I was going to go in with
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is you know, would you consider could have used a week off like CJ.
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Stroud in twenty twenty one. But that was against Akron in September,
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and I went away from that question because there was no point in. He
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never made it seem like, yeah, we need to give him a break
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or that guy. It was just like, no, he played through it.
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And then he talked about as as coach Picker always says, nobody cares,
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Oh, you're hurt, nobody, and he you know, discussed playing
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hurt, playing injury with an injury. There's you know, two different things,
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but basically, you are the quarterback of the team, so you need
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to do whatever you can to be on the field, and especially with your
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backup being hurt as well. So they're just you know, do a bunch
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of treatment sometimes. You know, we've seen some legendary treatment around here,
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twenty four hours a day basically, Madam Stewart just I'm bunking basically with people
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to get their their tendons and their ligaments and their you know, every bone
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dry basically. And in maka Abuka, he is he was apparently okay to
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play last week, just didn't play last week. We'll see if he plays
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this week. At this point, I almost am not paying attention to what
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they say about a Mecca Abuka or what's on the availability report of the Mecca
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Abuka. And we'll just see the first snap of the game when they're on
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offense. Let's see if I see number two out there, because that that
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is the point at which I will believe that a Meccha Abuka is going to
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play. I mean, I assume he could play this weekend. I assume
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he probably could have played last weekend. But you're in a spot where you
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didn't need him against Wisconsin and Rutgers is Rutgers is solid this year. They're
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six and two, but they're you know, it's still literally Rutgers, so
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you probably this is probably not You didn't hear Ryan talk about this as a
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matchup game, which you hear when it's Penn State week or it's Michigan week
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or it's Notre Dame week. You know, he's not gonna say, yeah,
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it's Rutgers, but it's you know, when he doesn't say it's a
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matchup game, that means yeah, it's Rutgers. Yeah. Well, and
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he will expected to practice this week, which sounds like did he not practice
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much last week but was still good to go for the game if they wanted
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to I do think you need to get him going so that he's full speed
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by the time you get to Michigan. But you also have two games after
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this before the Michigan game to do that, you know. But they took
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him last week, so there's there's a in case of an emergency break Mecca
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a Buka out and so I would I'm with you, like I expect him
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to play, but it's hard for me to believe anything because of what we've
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seen so far. Right. Yeah, and a fascinating stat from our buddy
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Marcus Hartman of the Dayton Daily News. I was just walking back in here
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and I was talking to him and he brought this up, and he's you
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can use this, and so, oh, don't worry. I will.
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I'll have to take a chance to do something on Saturday that they have never
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done in program history before. Can you tell me what it is? Well,
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it's not going nine to zero because they've done that before. Something they've
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never done in program history. I have no clue win their tenth consecutive game
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from the start of a series against an opponent. They have never played a
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team ten times without losing. They've played Maryland nine times, but they didn't
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play in twenty twenty twenty. So therefore they're nine and oh against Maryland.
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They're nine and oh against Rutgers. They have a chance to go ten and
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zero against Rutgers that win on Saturday. They were nine and oh against Oregon
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a couple of years ago and then lost that game. He said, they
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were eight oho to one against Missouri and lost to Missouri at some point in
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the nineteen seventies. So they've gotten closed. But they've never actually done it.
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And you know, even any of the in state schools like Miami they're
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six and zero against. They haven't played Ou or Bowling Green or Kent State
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or Akron or whoever enough times to qualify. And you know all the schools
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they played in the very early days, Otterby and Oberlin and all those teams
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they managed to lose, you know, all of them at some point.
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A chance for a real life, real life o hime state history on Saturday.
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If World War two would have lasted like ten years, maybe they could
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have done ten to zero against the Iowa Flight School or something like that.
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COVID, they could have done it against Maryland. Yes, yeah, very
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much so, so Tony wishing we could extend world wars, Kevin, I'm
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just I'm just saying. Also, sounds like what your friend Marcus is saying
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is that Rutgers is due. I if Rutgers being do meant anything, they
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would have a lot more than one national championship that coming in the year when
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there were only literally two teams playing college football one hundred and what sixty years
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ago, give her Tank. So you're saying it was a full national championship
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though, well, I mean some teams can, some teams can win full
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national championship. Brothers, others have to share just Ransom, Yeah, oh
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yeah, lath and Ransom. Yeah, I was, I was running through
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the injuries. Yes, so Tony Leith and Ransom not expected to play.
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There's no timetable, no information on the injury. Ran. They said they'd
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know more. They know more now than they did after the game, but
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they'll know more later in the week. And I did not get the impression
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that he would be playing this week or maybe next We'll see. But even
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Jim Nalls was talking about what they'll do in his absence with Sunny Styles there
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as the bandit safety. Yeah, that did not feel imminent at all.
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The way he talked about it, and just the vibe and this is purely
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vibes, is either there's a test or a procedure that's going to be done,
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and at that point you know more. But yeah, the we know
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more than we did before, but we'll know more later in the week.
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Maybe you're waiting for some kind of swelling to do it on or something good.
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But yeah, it was It was very clearly not like, yeah,
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this is about you, He's about to be bad that that is not the
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case at all. So then the question becomes, Okay, Tony, what
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do they do in the back end of that defense? Yeah, then it's
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basically sunny styles at that spot at the strong safety. Josh Proctor will stay
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there free safety, and you're gonna play a whole bunch of Jordan Hancock at
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nickel, and really he's going to have to be the strong nickel as well,
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I think in this situation. But he's got the mentality for it.
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He's been very aggressive and very physical this season. So there's that. I
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did ask Jim Knowles, if there comes a time where you want to sub
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him out, could you move Jermaine Matthews or somebody like that, because it
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is a lot to ask of a freshman, and he said, no,
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they'll keep him outside, but you could move any other any of the other
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corners, meaning to me, Denzel Burker, David stigmandos and you can move
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them inside if you need to, but just you know, kind of an
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emergency thing. If one guy goes down, who moves there because there's some
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moving pieces that aren't going to be able to be moving anymore, because you
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need Sonny Styles at that strong safety spot. Cameron Martinez played in the dime
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this past week. He's another option for them as well, although he didn't
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really say anything about putting him at Nickel and in this emergency situation that I
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created for him. Yeah, and this was you know, Cam Martinez played
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a little bit and Jim Knowles said he's been hurt a lot this year,
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sort of banged up, and so you haven't seen much of him this year.
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They think he might be someone who can help them against faster slot receivers.
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But that's you know that that sounds like a you know, multiple moving
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parts kind of situation. You do get the sense that Jordan Hancock has Jordan
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Hancock has I think shown them he can do all the things you need to
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do to be that that nickel guy and fill that slot corner kind of position.
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He feels like someone whose stock has risen about as much as anyone on
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the defense so far this year. Yeah, for sure. And he's a
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guy that I didn't know this, but we've they've talked in weeks past it.
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They recruited him to do this, play this nickel spot, to play
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in the slot, play outside playing the slot, and he's that's one of
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the reasons he came here for it. To remember, he was committed to
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Clempson for a while and they got they got him to flip from from there.
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But you know, this is what he is when he's healthy and when
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he's been comfortable and in the defense for the year or two. Like we
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talked with all of these guys, they know so much more. They're faster,
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they're able to diagnose, they know why they're being asked to do something,
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they know why the play is being called the way it is. So
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he's been a fantastic I don't even want to say audition, but certainly in
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addition, I do wonder what happens then when you are playing offenses that where
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Sonny would be the Sam. Is that now do you now play Cody Simon
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as that Sam with Steele and Tommy Eickenberg? Is that an early down thing
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because it seems like they would put Cody Simon in before they would put another
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safety back and move Sonny styles up, like unless you know, we've seen
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Jordan Hincock playing that slot. Sometimes just based on the motion, you also
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become the field safety. Yea, the deep safety. So is that something
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another movie part there, whereas Sonny can come down and Jordan Hncock goes back.
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I'm going to answer this like coaches answer it when they don't want to
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answer it, and the answer as well to it depends on the back count.
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So yeah, yeah, so we'll I mean, you want to talk
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about a lot of moving parts. There's a lot of moving parts there are,
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both in terms of scheme, opposition, personnel, injuries, all that
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kind of But with those two, it would only be those two moving parts.
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You know, they would basically just switch. Yeah, you know,
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and maybe Josh practice sides over. Like there's a way to make it work
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without pulling anybody off the field, I guess, but it's it's still a
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lot to ask of all of those guys right. Yeah, and then on
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the one of the other things that was a very popular topic of conversation with
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the play of Crevon Henderson, the all of a sudden, hey, oh,
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how does it look with the run the wall again? And you know,
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it sounds very much like better, but not where it needs to be.
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Ultimately, Yeah, and Randy talked about it's something we talked about every
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week where maybe there's just one missed block or one guy didn't reach enough and
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his eyes in the wrong place. But it's certainly gotten better. But also
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this Wisconsin defense gave up two hundred yards rushing to like three teams this year,
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so this is something that they've done in the past. So I don't
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think we can say everything is fixed, And certainly Ryan Day after watching the
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film, didn't say everything was fixed. But what Travion Anderson does is gives
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your offensive line and ability to make some mistakes, you know, and get
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away with some mistakes. And then the way he's fresh and running hard.
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I think it makes everybody feel better and feel get more aggressive with the run
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blocking. But the addition of him in the passing game as well creates issues.
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So just having on the field is one more guy for the defense to
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have to worry about. Right now, he's their number two playmaker, although
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he's getting the ball more than anybody else, so doesn't he become actually the
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number one playmaker? Well, I guess it depends on how you're defining it
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in terms of yards per play or plays per game. It still feels like
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Marvin Harrison is the guy who is the one who would be the biggest loss
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if he wasn't available. But why would you even say that? Yeah,
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well, they you know, and and Trey Van Henderson though obviously you saw
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what he brings to the offense and when he brings to the offense when he
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comes back. One thing, when you can get coaches to talk about like
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something very specific in a ton of detail, I feel like that's a lot
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of time. It's one of the most interesting things you get. And Ryan,
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they talked in great to tell about the second play of the game,
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and it was a play where I don't did coma Cork get sacked on the
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play or something? It was it was either a sack or it was a
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negative pray or some kind. Yeah, where it all started with the fact
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that there was a low snap, so Comiccord has to bend down and get
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the low snap. That meant his eyes were low, so he didn't see
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that there was a linebacker coming. The offensive line Josh Simmons had a defensive
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end that was closer and the defensive the offensive lineman's job is to block the
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you know, the biggest threat, the most imminent threat, so he blocks
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the defensive lineman. That means he's not blocking the linebacker. The linebacker's coming
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clean over. That's okay, because they had a hot read on that play
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he was put the ball was supposed to go to travia On Henderson. Travian
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Henderson was there, there were a couple of blockers out front. We were
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all set up to have a big play even though those blitz are coming clean.
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But because Colin McCurdy had a low snap and his eyes were low,
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I mean, he didn't see the guy coming, which meant he didn't go
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to the hot read immediately, and then by the time he saw it,
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it was like uh oh, and then the play got blown up. So
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it's amazing how you can have all this other stuff in place and then it's
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like, well, the snap was at his ankle, so therefore that blew
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the whole thing up. And you know, Ryan Dy talked about this in
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terms of you have to they have to be so focused on details. They
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have to get all the little stuff right every time, because you can have
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everything else right and then one little thing goes wrong and that can blow everything
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down. Yeah, whether it's protection or looking in the wrong place, just
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that whole the play was doomed from the snap. And that's just and that's
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just an assumed understood part of the game that it's always going to be perfect.
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That's everything is designed with the snap being perfect, and when it's not,
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it causes all kinds of chaos and and everything else designed around it can
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just be lost in the wash because this one thing has set everything else else
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off schedule. And then you've got to, as Ryan they said, have
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a plan for any kind of outcome that is not not the plan, and
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you got to have a plan for when the plans don't work out. Tom
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and quarterbacks hate it when a plan doesn't come together. So to coaches,
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do we have anything else before we get onto the Connor Stallion's News Hour?
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I have nothing, Okay, So heray, it's time for the Connor Stallion's
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News Hour. Really we really need like a jingle or something for this.
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So Central Michigan University puts something out that they are investigating a man who have
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you know, looks similar to counter Stallions, who was on the sidelines for
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each first Central Michigan uh during their game against uh AT at Michigan State.
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It was the Friday of week one, so Michigan played on Saturday, but
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kind of Stallions theoretically had the night off on Friday. UH. Brian Cooked
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from mg blogg said on Twitter that it was Stallions. You know, that's
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that's all that that that has not been confirmed confirmed, but you know generally
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he's probably in connection, in contact with Michigan people. So when he says,
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yes, this is Stallions, I assume it means yes, this is
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Stallions. And the fascinating thing about this, I mean, well, first
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of all, this kind of shoots a hole in uh you know. Oh
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well, he never did any off campus scouting, so you know there was
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there, you know, there was there was this idea and I don't think
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this was backed up by anything real but that well, if it wasn't a
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Michigan employee doing it, then it's okay because you show me in the rule
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book where it says and it's like show me in the broadbook where it says
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it's okay if it's not, but soay. That shoots a hole in that.
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And I went back and looked at just these couple of screen cats that
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were posted online. On Tuesday morning, I woke up by the way I
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put this on Twitter. The first thing I saw was is you posting Bobby
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Valentine in the mustache and glasses picture? And I opened my phone and this
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is the first thing I see, and I'm like, oh lord, what
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what did the Mets do? Now? And no, it was you know,
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so this person who looks incredibly like Connor Stallion's what we're reinterested in in.
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When he was on the sidelines from Michigan, who is he standing next
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to? Because that tells me who he's talking to and what he's doing there.
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And he was standing next to Central Michigan run game coordinator t Vita Thompson
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on at least three different occasions during the that I could find during the cut
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down highlights the version of the broadcast, which means, you know, I
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only saw him like four times, and three times he was standing next to
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a guy who was the he's listed as the run game coordinator, slash offensive
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line coach, Central Michigan's offensive coordinator, and wide receivers coach Paul Petrino is
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up in the press box, So that's probably the highest ranking person on the
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sideline. So you know, you look at the pictures and it's like,
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well, he's standing right next to kind of a close analogue to who he
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was standing next to the sidelines on the sidelines next to during the Michigan games.
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The tweet from MG blog says that from Brian Remgo blog says, no
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Michigan didn't know. No, Central Michigan didn't know. Dude get a sideline
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pass, arrived in full Central Michigan coaching gear and snuck into the restricted area.
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Quote from Brian Cook from MG blog on a WTKA radio show last week.
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Quote, people on Ohio State Twitter are watching these last two games and
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showing the fact that Stallion's was next to the d sensive coordinator, which is
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Dot Dot Dot. He's the sign guy. Where else would he be standing
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Tony or else would he be standing? Well, I think it's fascinating that
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he's snuck in with some sort of a pass, with some sort of laminated
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play sheet in its hand as well. Now, I don't know where the
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plausible deniability or or any of that is in this, because again, he's
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standing next to coaches, he is scouting an opponent, or just watching an
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opponent whatever, however, whatever verb you want to use, he's there.
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As you said, he is the sign stealing guy reportedly, so you know,
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this isn't a thing where he just buys tickets for friends. No,
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this is some people are saying it's him going to these games, going to
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that game, and I think other people have said it's not the only game,
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and maybe more will come out on that. It's like the the excuses,
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the reasoning, the I saw a later tweet saying that you know,
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this is just a crazy super fan. It's like, no, this is
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an employee of the Michigan Football department who is being paid by the Michigan Football
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department to do whatever he does, and he continues to do it, and
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also not just doing it for Michigan, but apparently Michigan's one of Michigan's opponents
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of their rivals, and is the lengths that they will go to. At
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this point, it just could be argued that there are there are no bounds
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to what they will do to upset or just get over on on a rival.
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Well, and there's some overlap between the Central Michigan coaching staffs and the
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Michigan coaching staffs, which you know, I mean, you can tell me
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that he, you know, showed up and you know whatever, printed his
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own credential and was standing on the sidelines all by himself and no one knew
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anything about it. And then he was just standing right next to the run
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game coordinator for large chunks of the game, and the run game coordinator returned
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to him and said, Hey, who are you? Hey, why are
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you you know? I mean, I'm I'm going to assume that he said
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something to him at some point during the course of the game. Maybe credential
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visitor bitch. Yes, yes, the visitor credential. It's not a hanger
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on credential. It is an official credential to be inside the bench area.
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Yes. And so the statement from Central Michigan says, this is from at
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Tony Paul nineteen eighty four. I think he's a Detroit News reporter if I
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remember correctly. Central Michigan is investigating whether, since the suspended um staff are
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Connor Stallions was on the Chipawa sideline for the season opening MSU game. Previously,
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a CMU spokesperson told the News that Stallion's name was not on any official
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sideline pass list. Statement from ad Amy Folan quote, we became aware of
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these photos late yesterday and we are in the process of determining the facts surrounding
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them. As this process is ongoing, we have no further cont at this
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time. Does this mean that Conner Stallions is going by an alias when he
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perhaps went to this game? Like, what would be I regret pointing the
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microphone towards Kevin that mistake will not be repeated. Is Joey Freshwater around Mexico?
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Yeah? Yeah, I mean, I mean it is the great Lake
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Stak Joey Freshbroughter would be a great, a great nom de plume there.
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I mean, it feels a lot like you'd have to really be, really
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be giving the Bendit doubt to an awful lot of people to believe. No,
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no, no, no, one other than this one crazy person,
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This one lunatic who's using an axe and chopping down the door while his poor
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wife is in the bathroom. He has done this all on his own he
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has gotten this past somehow he has gone there. He has stood on the
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bench next to these coaches who just want to be left alone. He appears
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to be doing exactly exactly what he does when he's with Michigan. So number
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one, you're you're not allowed to be there. That right, there's no
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there's no gray area that you're not allowed to be there. Number Two,
24:22
if he's stealing signs, even if he's just stealing signs in game, you're
24:29
not allowed to be there. But you know is did he have an advanced
24:32
in a version? There was paper in his hands. I mean, we
24:34
don't know what was on the paper, but it just the idea that this
24:40
is the lone gunman, the one, the one crazy nut who is just
24:45
doing this by himself seems somewhat fanciful to me at this point. The low
24:53
level the magic bullet, low level staffer ferry, if you just look back
24:59
into the left, that sort of thing, uh, and you every step
25:04
of the way, you have to really twist yourself into what this could be.
25:12
Yeah, could write, could have all the explanations and hand waving about
25:21
it just feels very much like, well, I have shot the arrow,
25:25
and the arrow has hit the spot where it says it has hit a spot.
25:30
And right there I have written I don't know nothing, and I've painted
25:34
a bulls eye around it, and look, the arrow has hit the I
25:37
don't know nothing and I'm just gonna read it again. Quotes people on Ohio
25:42
State Twitter are watching these last two games and showing the fact that Stallions was
25:45
next to the defensive coordinator, which is dot dot dot. He's the signed
25:48
guy. Where else would he be standing? It's Tony. It's a great
25:55
question. It is a good question, and we saw precisely where he or
25:59
some do you like him looking like him, was on the central Michigan side
26:03
right now, Tom, I will say a few weeks back, maybe a
26:07
month or so ago, there's a tourist train in Colorado where some passengers got
26:12
video of Bigfoot. Mm hmm. But it's probably just a guy in a
26:17
suit. Now, this is holiday, Halloween weekend, and we have seen
26:22
some guys in some counter Stallion suits. So although this is back in September
26:27
before he was no, I mean sometimes you pull never never wrong, just
26:32
early. I mean, that's that is that is some yeah, I mean,
26:37
that's some foresight. He addresses Conor sallions before and you gotta you gotta
26:40
explain your costume a lot of time. Yeah, but some people like that
26:44
ask me about my costume. Yes, that sort of thing. Well,
26:47
you think about Kevin, why don't you find out if we have any questions?
26:49
Well, Tony tells us about his costume. Yeah, no, I
26:53
don't go ahead. Kevin CMU in cahoots with Jim Harbaugh. It feels like
26:59
it is the most ridicul this cheating scheme ever or a total troll job by
27:03
um. So that's an interesting question, and we don't have enough information to
27:10
be able to answer that clearly right now. I would say the balance of
27:18
probability is that at least one other person at Michigan and or CMU knew about
27:23
this. It's more likely that someone else knew about it than no one knew
27:27
about it, given just what we know about where he was where you know,
27:33
where he was not just on the bench with a visiting bench pass,
27:37
but also where he was on the visiting bench and who he was next to.
27:41
Well, also, I don't know that, so he's gonna In theory,
27:45
this is how would work, right, he would request or somebody would
27:49
request on his behalf from CMU, who would then give their list of people
27:53
to MSU, right, and not that they're necessarily going to cross reference at
27:59
gender. They'll take what names you give them as whatever, but you're still
28:03
not going to put a Michigan staffer's name on that list, right right?
28:07
I mean, and they're not checking IDs once you have your like, I'm
28:14
sure that they did he come in with the team. Well, that's a
28:18
tremendous question. I can't imagine he rode the bus with the team, but
28:23
you okay. So the way credential pickup works is there's two different ways to
28:27
it. One is and this is how credential pickup works for us. Sometimes
28:33
the opposing team Wisconsin last week, for example, FedEx is the credentials to
28:38
the Ohio State Sports Information Department and they distribute them to us. I would
28:41
assume that's how it worked for the team, that you are getting your credentials
28:45
set to you and then you either get them at your hotel that morning or
28:48
whatever, and you put them on and you go. The other way is
28:52
we'll call I cannot imagine that the team has will call credentials. So this
28:56
weekend at Wreckers, we may end up. We're not sure we may end
28:59
up having you, So wait at the window and show our ID and pick
29:03
up the credentials. If the credentials are just issued, then you just get
29:08
them and you don't have to show your idea or anything. So you know,
29:11
you could have a credential that says Joey Jojo Junior Chabou on it.
29:15
And and then Carner Stallions is not on the pass list. But that requires
29:21
someone at Central Michigan to put Joey Jojo Junior Chabou on the past list,
29:26
which means someone there knows. So if for you to have a pass on
29:32
your you know either someone gave it to you, you're stolen from someone you
29:36
know, maybe he's a sleight of hand artist I don't know, or you
29:40
were you were on the pass list with with some name. Yeah, and
29:44
if if this is him and he was on the pass list with a name
29:48
that isn't his, that is purposeful deception, right And why are you doing
29:53
this? Well because I don't want to be found out for what I'm actually
29:56
doing here, you know, So like there there are levels to the deception
30:00
in there, and you're you're being deceptive there because you know what you're doing
30:04
and theory is entirely wrong and against the rules. Yeah, and again,
30:08
we don't know all the facts on this, but we are I think at
30:15
least approaching and maybe have already entered. Don't pee on my leg and tell
30:19
me it's raining territory. Like, I know, you can pretend you can
30:23
be that stupid. I at some point, like you gotta, I gotta
30:29
kind of like you gotta give the rest of the world a little bit of
30:32
credit. Yeah, yeah, no, it is, it's it's not.
30:36
Uh yeah, you're not very far from that. And you try to it's
30:40
almost like humor them, like I just yeah, but but eventually it stops
30:45
being funny, right, Yeah, And I'm again, I think we've been
30:48
pretty reasonable and rational about this and are not trying to get way out ahead
30:52
of it. But you know, enough of this different stuff has kind of
30:56
been like, yeah that I think you're you're starting to lose the benefit of
31:00
the doubt on some of this stuff. Next out, next question, Odysseus.
31:07
More likely, Ciano and Day get into a shouting match. Tony enjoys
31:11
a hot dog with mustard in this cataway. Okay, so I know the
31:15
answer to that one. Right now, and that is Friday and Ciano would
31:18
get into a shouting match, fisticuffs, and I'm not gonna have a hot
31:22
dog with mustard on it. That's not gonna happen. Now. There may
31:25
be a little bit of mustard on whatever I choose to get, but I'm
31:27
not gonna I'm not gonna have a hot dog with mustard. That's gross,
31:30
Greg Ciano did say his press conference on Monday, Ryan Day was not asked
31:33
about the fake punt dust up from last year's game, Greg Ciano. If
31:37
you want to hear the full answer, you can hear it on the Black
31:40
Customer Morning episode for Tuesday. But Greg Ciano talked about the fact that you
31:44
know, hey, that wasn't about a fake punt. No one's upset about
31:45
a fake pint. Everyone understood it was an automatic that they didn't have the
31:49
edge covered. And Jesse Murco had been taught like, well, you start
31:52
rolling that way and if there's no one there, like just keep on rolling
31:56
and keep and keep running, so they you know that the issue was he
32:00
had a guy on the sidelines that was surrounded by a house people and he
32:06
said he was getting kind of shoved around and he felt it was a player
32:07
safety issue and that's why he went running across the field and Brian Day looked
32:10
up and was like, hey, that's not You have the visitors bench passed
32:15
with over there with Connors Stallions. Why are you over here on the home
32:17
bench and allegedly and so yeah he said, no, no bad blood,
32:24
no anything, it's fine, no concerns. So yeah, I'm not expecting
32:30
either of those things to happen over under. For Jesse Murco rushing yards this
32:34
weekend twenty six and a half. That would be an incredible troll if they
32:38
ran Jesse Murco three times three times. Yeah, no puns, Mark Fetters.
32:45
In the first few games, there was a lot of issues with the
32:46
running plot. Don't hear much about it now? Yeah, well they've adjusted.
32:51
I think you've now come to realize what it is. Just the first
32:55
few games it was a shock, and so yeah, you're going to talk
33:00
up the shock. And they had games where they had fewer possessions than they've
33:04
had in decades, So that's going to be something like, you know,
33:07
this is legitimately a concern now, so then you deal with the concern and
33:10
you learn to live with it, and then you move on because nothing is
33:14
going to change about it this year. But you know, but if you
33:17
look at the possessions, I think they've increased, and they're not. It's
33:21
not been as drastic, but it may get a little short short this week
33:24
against Rutgers, who will try to hold the ball for as long as possible.
33:29
And you know, part of that also is Ohio State's doing a better
33:30
job on defense. Get you off the field on third down. When you
33:32
when you hold your opponent to one for sixteen and six for sixteen on third
33:37
down, well you get off the field and then you get the ball back
33:40
and that helps with the number of possessions and number of snaps you're getting as
33:44
well. The last one I have started right now from Odysseus. Who would
33:50
look best firing the cannon, Tom Tony or Kevin? That is a question
33:54
you only ask if you not seen me in a tri corner hat. I
34:00
know, ladies. My thing with the canon is I would fire and still
34:06
jump because once you once you get got by that thing once, you're always
34:09
a little like it's gonna go off now, is it? Yeah? No,
34:12
it only goes off after touchdowns, but might go off right now,
34:15
right well, I mean it only goes off after touchdowns, and it goes
34:19
off when the team runs out at the beginning of the game, at halftime,
34:22
at the end of the game, and anytime Rutgers scores. So generally
34:25
that has meant three times a game during most Ohio State visits. And it
34:28
was the end of the game that got me years and years ago, and
34:31
I've still not been right since. In case you're running where it sounds like
34:37
cannon's are firing and here the Ohio State softball pitchers are throwing over on the
34:39
other side. So all right, yes, that is our hint to That
34:44
is our hint to wrap it up and head on out. So thank you
34:45
guys all for joining us. I think we covered some interesting stuff here.
34:50
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34:53
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34:58
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35:22
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35:27
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35:30
Because and then Tony will be on the conference call talking talking to UH to
35:37
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35:42
like, so, how does this whole gesture is vaguely uh potentially impact things
35:49
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35:51
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35:52
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