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The JEFFREY EPSTEIN Hit List_ Examining The 22 Mysterious Death-Updated version · The conspiracy

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Speaker 1: One death is weird, two deaths is suspicious, But twenty
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Speaker 1: two deaths linked to one criminal that, my friends, is
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Speaker 1: a massive cover up in action. For years now, I've
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Speaker 1: been talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the sordid Epstein's scandal,
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Speaker 1: and obviously this year we've seen the cover up playing
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Speaker 1: out in real time. You've been able to watch it
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Speaker 1: happen right before your very eyes. It's a story that
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Speaker 1: has fully engulfed our political climate, enveloped the current President
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Speaker 1: Trump in a dark web of disturbing allegations, and exposed
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Speaker 1: an international blackmail intelligence gathering operation that children to be
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Speaker 1: used as ponds in a sickening power game. But as
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Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to world governments, when a
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Speaker 1: story needs to be covered up, well that's when people
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Speaker 1: start to As they say, a lot of people on
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Speaker 1: this list earned the highest award, the most esteemed award
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Speaker 1: when it comes to investigative journalism, a bullet And when
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Speaker 1: it comes to the Epstein story, there have been a
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Speaker 1: number of extremely suspicious, incredibly strange, perfectly timed deaths connected
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Speaker 1: to the case. Film producers who died, victims who other
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Speaker 1: perpetrators who died in the exact same manner as Epstein. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the list goes on and on, and we're going to
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Speaker 1: do a deep dive on that list today. As everybody
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Speaker 1: knows already, I don't want to go anywhere or do
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Speaker 1: anything to myself. All parties are presumed innocent until proven
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Speaker 1: guilty in a court of law. All opinions presented on
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Speaker 1: today's show are solely mine. And if you want to
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Speaker 1: check out where I got the information to make this video,
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Speaker 1: please do investigate the resources document in the description for
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Speaker 1: yourself without further ado. Welcome to the Conspiracy Files. So
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Speaker 1: everybody knows the Epstein stories, so for now we're going
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Speaker 1: to skip doing a deep dive on that. But as
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Speaker 1: a quick recap, everybody knows Jeffrey Epstein is the men
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Speaker 1: accused of miners to the world elite princes, CEOs, finance gurus, scientists,
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Speaker 1: entertainment moguls. Epstein and Ghlene Maxwell has a pomplish. Their
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Speaker 1: web of evil touched every single industry and as we
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Speaker 1: all know, Epstein ostensibly self deleted in twenty nineteen. Now
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Speaker 1: we all know that he was killed. Some people even
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Speaker 1: theorize that he's still alive. I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the fence. I haven't done enough
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Speaker 1: deep diving into that specific topic. But since everybody already
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Speaker 1: knows the details of Epstein's death itself, you know the details.
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Speaker 1: Cameras turned off, guards that were asleep, lots of suspicious
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Speaker 1: pieces of evidence, things that were missing, people that didn't
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Speaker 1: do the jobs they needed to do, including more recent
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Speaker 1: evidence like that video that the Justice Department, the FBI
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Speaker 1: can't remember who released a few months ago that was edited.
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Speaker 1: They said, this is the uncut, unedited video of Epstein's
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Speaker 1: cell block the night that he, you know, died, and
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Speaker 1: it was edited. It was actually edited. They proved that
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Speaker 1: somebody had edited it. But you all know that. If
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Speaker 1: you want to hear more information about the suspicious things
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Speaker 1: surrounding Epstein's death, I highly recommend you watched the very
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Speaker 1: very first video on this channel, the Murder of Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 1: where I spelled all those facts out very very plainly
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Speaker 1: and clearly. So I guess you could count Epstein as
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Speaker 1: the first death connected to the scandal, even though it
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Speaker 1: was his own death. But for the real first death
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Speaker 1: that I want to examine today, we need to talk
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Speaker 1: about one of Epstein's best friends, one of his partners
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Speaker 1: in crime and one of the biggest creeps that I've
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Speaker 1: ever read about. And we also need to talk about
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Speaker 1: how he died in a similar place, at a very
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Speaker 1: similar time, with precisely the same method of execution. Death
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Speaker 1: number one. John Luke Brunell, the model manager who molded
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Speaker 1: his own end. Jean Luke Brunell is an infamous name
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Speaker 1: in the worlds of modeling and fashion, not only due
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Speaker 1: to his disgusting personal actions and crimes against children, but also,
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Speaker 1: of course, due to his close connection and proximity to
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. John Luke Brunell's life slither through the gutters
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Speaker 1: of France directly into the glitzy veins of high fashion
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Speaker 1: like a viper in velvet. Born in nineteen forty six
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Speaker 1: in Paris to a family of restaurateurs, Jean Luke at
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Speaker 1: a young age, catapulted from amateur photographer to kingpin of
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Speaker 1: the modeling world after founding the infamous MC two modeling
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Speaker 1: agency in nineteen eighty eight, a modeling agency that would
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Speaker 1: go on to provide models across the world for fashion
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Speaker 1: and runway work, and would also provide underaged models to
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Speaker 1: darker individuals. If you want to phrase it like that,
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke Brunell frequently spent his time scouting wayfish teens
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Speaker 1: on the streets of Europe and funneling them straight into
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Speaker 1: the maw of New York's cutthroat fashion runway scene, with
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Speaker 1: a predatory eye that seemed to prioritize vulnerability over vitality.
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Speaker 1: In other words, Jean Luke Brunell, under the auspices of
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Speaker 1: recruiting for his modeling agency, was in actuality searching for
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Speaker 1: his next potential victim. In his earlier days working in
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Speaker 1: the fashion industry, John Luke photographed models for magazine covers,
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Speaker 1: and his work was even featured on the front of
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Speaker 1: publications like L and Vogue. However, even back then, as
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Speaker 1: far back as the nineteen seventies, John Luke was already
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Speaker 1: infamous within the industry for holding auditions that devolved into
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Speaker 1: sessions in his apartment. Spread throughout the industry pretty quickly
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Speaker 1: that Jean Luke was a predatory creep, which earned him
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Speaker 1: rebukes from peers like John Casablancas. Yet his rolodex of
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Speaker 1: famous names and clients like Ralph Laurn in elite model
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Speaker 1: management served to shield him from controversy. And every time
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Speaker 1: that it seemed like Jean Luke was about to get
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Speaker 1: into trouble for messing around with kids, something would happen,
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Speaker 1: evidence or victims would disappear. Stories would stop spreading, Victims
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Speaker 1: were scared into silence, and this allowed Jean Luke to
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Speaker 1: enjoy a career that spanned decades, a career that consisted
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Speaker 1: of exploiting teenaged girls dreams of working in the fashion
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Speaker 1: world for their flesh. From an objective perspective, Jean Luke's
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Speaker 1: personal saga was one of unchecked hedonism, debauchery, and of course,
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke was married three times in his life and
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Speaker 1: was a father to a son he barely knew. He
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Speaker 1: flitted between Paris lofts and Miami condos, his charm a
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Speaker 1: thin veneer that barely masked his inner desires and deeply
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Speaker 1: sadistic tendencies. Jean Luke ended up becoming pretty infamous in
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Speaker 1: the modeling and fashion worlds. As models around the world
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Speaker 1: began with spring of Leo Wolf, the predator who lured
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Speaker 1: them into his world with promises of Chanel contracts, only
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Speaker 1: to demand nude tests and naked auditions in private rooms
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Speaker 1: and on couches and beds. Jean Luke, though, had some
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Speaker 1: pretty powerful connections as he worked his way up through
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Speaker 1: the fashion and modeling industries. He began to hobnob with
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Speaker 1: the jet set, yachting with Saudi princes, and taking advantage
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Speaker 1: physically and mentally of budding starlets. But his true throw
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Speaker 1: lay in the power imbalance. Jean Luke himself collected polaroids
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Speaker 1: of topless underaged hopefuls like baseball cards, his modeling agency
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Speaker 1: serving really only as a conveyor belt for the industry's underbelly,
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Speaker 1: where eating disorders and reviewed back then as a necessary
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Speaker 1: but unavoidable occupational hazards. By the nineteen nineties, however, Jean
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Speaker 1: Luke's empire began to crumble. It was during that time
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Speaker 1: period when valigation surfaced, stemming from a nineteen seventy five
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Speaker 1: incident where he had a fifteen year old girl. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: back then, in nineteen seventy five, the criminal case against
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Speaker 1: John Luke was dismas for a lack of evidence. This
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Speaker 1: should have been the end of Jean Luke's career way
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Speaker 1: back then, but he rebounded and subsequently launched a new agency,
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Speaker 1: Karen Models, and re entered the modeling and fashion worlds.
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Speaker 1: Even with his disturbing, well known past, Jean Luke took
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Speaker 1: advantage of any young woman or child he could get
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Speaker 1: his hands on, from anonymous runaways to the famous like
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Speaker 1: Carla Bruni, whom he claimed to have discovered at nineteen.
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Speaker 1: In the fashion worlds morose irony, Jean Luke was both
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Speaker 1: a creator and a destroyer, molding beauty from clay, only
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Speaker 1: to shatter it in private. His personal autobiography a whitewashed
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Speaker 1: tribute to his passion that omitted the handcuffs and the
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Speaker 1: tears and crimes against children. But all the while, throughout
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Speaker 1: all these trials and tribulations, Jean Luke was working with
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Speaker 1: an even bigger, darker super predator. As we all know
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Speaker 1: by now, that was Jeffrey Epstein. Jean Luke's entanglement with
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Speaker 1: Epstein was a marriage made on Hell's casting couch. The
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Speaker 1: two were introduced in the late nineteen eighties through mutual
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Speaker 1: French connections, and quickly Jean Luke became one of Epstein's
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Speaker 1: premiere underage girl suppliers. Essentially, Jean Luke scouted for young
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Speaker 1: talent that Epstein would then go on to use in
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Speaker 1: his in blackmail gathering operation. Soon enough, Jean Luke was
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Speaker 1: jetting girls as young as twelve years old from Paris
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Speaker 1: to Palm Beach on Epstein's dime, with flight logs showing
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Speaker 1: over time many different MC two recruits that were taken
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Speaker 1: to Miami, to Florida, to Little Saint James or Epstein
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Speaker 1: Island for photoshoots that masked what some have described as
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Speaker 1: being For example, victim Virginia Goufrey alleged that Jean Luke
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Speaker 1: brunel her three times at Epstein's New York townhouse in
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Speaker 1: the year two thousand and one, with his test this
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Speaker 1: time involving forced filatio while Epstein watched from a closet camera. Interestingly,
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Speaker 1: Epstein and Jean Luke's partnership actually formalized and became official
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, when Epstein helped to finance
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke's modeling agency MC two's Miami branch with a
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Speaker 1: one million dollar investment, which on paper was an investment
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Speaker 1: for quote talent development, but in reality was nothing more
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Speaker 1: than a front for French authorities. After receiving a tip
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Speaker 1: about Jean Luke, later discovered a vast network of allegations
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Speaker 1: that had been sitting right under the surface for decades
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Speaker 1: and brought Jean Luke's personal victim count to at least
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Speaker 1: fifty four models. Was also found that Jean Luke Brunel
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Speaker 1: had been supplying Epstein with young underaged girls who would
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Speaker 1: perform massages on clients in exchange for access to Epstein's
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Speaker 1: elite black book, his powerful contacts, his glitzy lifestyle money.
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Speaker 1: There were a lot of different reasons Jean Luke himself
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Speaker 1: would even throughout the time he was working with Epstein,
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Speaker 1: rubbed shoulders with the elites, including times he traveled and
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Speaker 1: hung out with aids for the Clintons, Hollywood moguls, and
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Speaker 1: other notable figures. Virginia Gufre's twenty fifteen deposition detailed Jean
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Speaker 1: Luke's octopus hands heard during a flight diversion to his
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Speaker 1: Paris flat, while another victim, Jane Doe number three, claimed
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke at sixteen years old in a casting session
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Speaker 1: that Epstein himself set up. Upon looking at all this,
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Speaker 1: the duo synergy was evident to authorities, and disturbingly, they
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Speaker 1: eventually recovered photos of bound teenagers in compromising positions that
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Speaker 1: had secretly been stored in Brunell's freezer labeled for Epstein's collection.
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Speaker 1: Even after Epstein's two thousand and eight guilty plead to
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Speaker 1: essentially with a minor, Brunell continued to visit Epstein, and
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Speaker 1: later photos emerged that captured them toasting drinks with who
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Speaker 1: we can assume were underaged girls. And when the FEDS
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Speaker 1: rated Epstein's residence in twenty nineteen, authorities recovered files from
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke's agency MC two revealing payments to recruits that
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Speaker 1: were as young as fourteen years old. In Epstein's Web
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Speaker 1: of lies, you see, Jean Luke Brunell was not just
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Speaker 1: a sidekick or a side character, but rather a full
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Speaker 1: on co conspirator, his modeling agency serving as a pipeline
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Speaker 1: of underaged girls for Epstein, and according to some reporting,
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Speaker 1: the girls that Jean Luke Brunell provided to Epstein were
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Speaker 1: sometimes used to gather those blackmail tapes that allegedly captured
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Speaker 1: UNI United States politicians and powerful figures from all sorts
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Speaker 1: of industries children. But interestingly, it's been claimed that there
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Speaker 1: are also French politicians on those tapes as well. Epstein
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Speaker 1: and Jean Luke were partners in crime incredibly close, and
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke played a massive role in Epstein's overall operation,
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Speaker 1: and so naturally, when on February nineteenth, twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke Brunel was found from a Paisley scarf in
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Speaker 1: his Las Sente prison cell in Paris, naturally some eyebrows
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Speaker 1: were raised. Jean Luke, you see, had been arrested at
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Speaker 1: Paris's Charles de Gaul airport in December twenty twenty as
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Speaker 1: he was trying to board a flight to Senegal. His
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Speaker 1: arrest a part of a French inquiry and allegations against
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Speaker 1: Epstein focusing on potential crimes committed against French victims and
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Speaker 1: suspects who were French citizens. Prosecutors suspected Jean Luke of
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Speaker 1: and multiple miners and adults. They also suspected him of
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Speaker 1: transporting and housing young girls Forstein. On February nineteenth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two, about a year after he was arrested, the
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Speaker 1: seventy five year old Jean Luke's body was found in
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Speaker 1: his prison cell like a discarded mannequin. His face cyanoudic
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Speaker 1: from the noose nodded with precision. Later on, court documents
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Speaker 1: that were released surrounding Jean Luke's case dripped with graphic
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Speaker 1: horrors like details about penetration with foreign objects and group
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Speaker 1: violations in hotel suites, and we hear a very similar
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Speaker 1: story to Epstein here. Jean Luke, you see, was removed
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Speaker 1: from shortly before he was found dead, despite prior alleged
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Speaker 1: attempts to self delete, including an incident that was documented
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Speaker 1: to have happened prior in twenty twenty. But this move
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Speaker 1: found Jean Luke brunel housed alone in a high security wing.
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Speaker 1: In addition, after Jean Luke was found dead, the guards
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Speaker 1: that were on duty that night claimed that their routine
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Speaker 1: checks somehow missed the early morning act of self deletion. Somehow,
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Speaker 1: even though John Luke was essentially their only prisoner to
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Speaker 1: watch over, they didn't notice what he was doing in
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Speaker 1: his cell. It's a very familiar story and also it's
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Speaker 1: just like my thoughts with Epstein. Jean Luke is a very,
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Speaker 1: very very high profile criminal that you're housing and nobody's
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Speaker 1: paying attention to him. It's the same with Epstein. Like
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke's probably one of the most infamous criminals, if
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Speaker 1: not the most infamous criminal at the time in all
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Speaker 1: of France. Same with Epstein, you know, after he was arrested,
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Speaker 1: and yet no one's watching over them. It's just crazy. Also,
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Speaker 1: as with Epstein himself, on that fateful evening slash early morning,
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Speaker 1: some of the cameras malfunctioned in the cell block area
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Speaker 1: that Jean Luke Brunel was held in, which prevented people
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Speaker 1: from ever truly seeing if anyone else had entered or
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Speaker 1: exited the area that day. Now, unlike Epstein, Jean Luke's
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Speaker 1: hyoid bone was found intact. If it were broken, that
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Speaker 1: would almost be a surefire sign of strangulation. But the
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Speaker 1: ligature furrows and marks on his neck were deep and diagonal,
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Speaker 1: which fueled pathologists who examined his body and the photos
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Speaker 1: to suggest that Jean Luke may have been killed and
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Speaker 1: then his body staged. French justice minister Eric DuPont Mouretti
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Speaker 1: called tragic, but a lawyer representing some of Jean Luke
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Speaker 1: and Epstein's victims are Len de Hen fumed this is
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Speaker 1: not justice, it's a rasure. Jean Luke's death occurred just
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Speaker 1: months before his trial, potentially derailing testimony that could implicate
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Speaker 1: high profile figures like Prince Andrew, whom he allegedly supplied
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Speaker 1: girls to. Victim Tissia Heisman, who accused John Luke of
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Speaker 1: her at age sixteen, dismissed this theory of self deletion outright, saying, quote,
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Speaker 1: I don't believe it that he It's like what happened
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Speaker 1: to Epstein. It's too convenient end quote. Also, accusers had
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Speaker 1: described Jean Luke as having been arrogant and self assured,
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Speaker 1: and stated that he himself had been convinced he would
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Speaker 1: be acquitted due to his powerful political connections. That same victim,
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Speaker 1: Tissia Heisman, in the same interview, noted quote, he was
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Speaker 1: too arrogant, too full of himself. Those guys, they're not
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Speaker 1: the type, and questioned why someone so defiant would suddenly
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Speaker 1: choose to end at all. Also, unlike in other high
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Speaker 1: security prisons, while there were some cameras throughout the facility,
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Speaker 1: the Lessante prison or Jean Luke was held act video
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Speaker 1: cameras and inmates cells, which left prosecutors and the public
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Speaker 1: with no footage to verify that he had actually done
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Speaker 1: what they said he did. French authorities immediately declared Jean
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Speaker 1: Luke's death a self deletion within a few hours, based
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Speaker 1: on a hasty autopsy and a lack of any visible
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Speaker 1: signs of struggle. Critics, though, including former UK prosecutor Nazir Afzal,
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Speaker 1: tweeted out quote no cameras, no witnesses, ruled immediately. I'm
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Speaker 1: no conspiracy theorist, but this stinks. Interestingly, even Glene Maxwell's
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Speaker 1: own brother Ian raised some concern here, telling media outlets
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Speaker 1: at the time quote another death by in a high
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Speaker 1: security prison. My reaction is one of total shock and
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Speaker 1: bewilderment end quote. And he even said that the family
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Speaker 1: now feared for Gallaine's safety, implying broader threats to those
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Speaker 1: within Epstein's universe. Dutch model Valerie Vanderwaal, another accuser of
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke's, told ns A foreign news agency in February
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, it feels like justice is being
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Speaker 1: blocked again. He knew too much, obviously, the timing of
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke's death right before his trial, where he was
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Speaker 1: obviously going to most likely expose some things about the
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Speaker 1: Epstein operation and potentially throw out some powerful names. I mean,
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Speaker 1: John Luke knew the inner workings of the Epstein thing.
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Speaker 1: Like he was there with Epstein. He was supplying the victims,
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Speaker 1: He was the victims. He was an integral part of
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Speaker 1: at least some of these operations. So he knew a lot,
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Speaker 1: and it's very convenient that before he could really tell
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Speaker 1: people what he knew. He's gone forever, But we have
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Speaker 1: to move on. So so far we've got the death
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Speaker 1: of Epstein himself, the death of Jean Luke. But then
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Speaker 1: there's death number three, Virginia Goufrey, the survivor. Virginia Gufray's
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Speaker 1: existence was a harrowing odyssey from innocence shattered to fierce reckoning.
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Speaker 1: Born Virginia Roberts in nineteen eighty three in Sacramento, Virginia's
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Speaker 1: childhood was unraveled by parental divorce and that age seven
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Speaker 1: by a family friend, which landed her in foster care
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Speaker 1: by thirteen, where she battled Bolimia, and at age fourteen,
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Speaker 1: Virginia began living on the streets and eventually became the
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Speaker 1: victim of another named Ron Eppinger in Miami, Florida. Virginia
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Speaker 1: lived with Ron for about six months, but eventually he
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Speaker 1: too was caught, arrested charged. We're gonna talk about Ron
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Speaker 1: in a little bit, but just know that she was
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Speaker 1: his victim. And then she was able to break free,
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Speaker 1: as she was already in Florida, though. Virginia then decided
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Speaker 1: to find a new place to work, this time choosing
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Speaker 1: to be a spot attendant at Trump's Mar Lago resort,
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Speaker 1: where at the time, Virginia's father worked as a maintenance manager.
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Speaker 1: It was here, while working at mar a Lago that
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Speaker 1: Virginia was approached by none other than Gallaine Maxwell, Epstein's
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Speaker 1: partner in crime, who spotted her from a distance and
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Speaker 1: lured her into a sort of mentorship that morphed into
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Speaker 1: a full on role in Epstein's child harem. From two
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Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand and two, Virginia was by Epstein
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Speaker 1: to a number of high profiled individuals, and she was
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Speaker 1: by a number of recognizable people. She also saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of things that she shouldn't have seen and became
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Speaker 1: privy to the inner workings of Epstein's distin operation. And
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Speaker 1: that's because for a while Virginia two was working not
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Speaker 1: only for Epstein, but she was also working with Epstein
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Speaker 1: and Maxwell recruiting other girls into the ring. And that's
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Speaker 1: all before obviously, she got out of it herself now.
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Speaker 1: Virginia later on ended up becoming one of the most
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Speaker 1: prominent voices against Epstein years later, and her allegations were
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Speaker 1: some of the first that really caught the attention of
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Speaker 1: the media and helped break the Epstein story worldwide. Virginia
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Speaker 1: would eventually try to make a life of her own
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Speaker 1: away from the predators that haunted her adolescence, and eventually
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Speaker 1: gave birth to three children. Later on, she moved out
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Speaker 1: of America to Perth, Australia, and there she helped to
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Speaker 1: found an organization called Victims Refuse Silence, an organization dedicated
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Speaker 1: to helping survivors escape and also dedicated to sharing the
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Speaker 1: stories of survivors. Virginia's advocacy rebirthed her and turned her
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Speaker 1: into a fiery phoenix, born from the ashes and radicalized
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Speaker 1: into an angel of vengeance and justice. But life was
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Speaker 1: never really easy for Virginia after escaping Maxwell and Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Her personal battles included reported PTSD fueled nightmares, a twenty
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Speaker 1: nineteen separation from her husband after she discovered infidelity, and
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Speaker 1: relentless media hounding that turned her Palm Beach beauty into
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Speaker 1: a tabloid spectacle. However, through all of this turmoil in Trouble,
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Speaker 1: Virginia continued to speak out against Epstein and Maxwell and
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Speaker 1: continued to speak up for survivors across the world. Her
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Speaker 1: life was a testament to survival scars, and it should
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Speaker 1: be noted in twenty twenty one, she actually sued Prince
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Speaker 1: Andrew for twelve million dollars. I just talked about this
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Speaker 1: in a recent episode. They eventually settled out of court.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why an innocent person would settle with
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Speaker 1: someone out of court for a massive amount of money.
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Speaker 1: That to me just screams incredibly guilty. Like, if you're
19:44
Speaker 1: not guilty, why not just fight it. That's a whole
19:47
Speaker 1: nother tangent, though, but in the last few years, Virginia
19:49
Speaker 1: finally seemed to be winning a little bit. Virginia also
19:52
Speaker 1: became close friends with other Epstein victims like Sarah Ransom,
19:56
Speaker 1: and forged a practical sisterhood of the scard. Eventually, Virginia
20:00
Speaker 1: began acting as an ambassador for awareness, but the weight
20:04
Speaker 1: of those years of silence broke her internally, and she
20:06
Speaker 1: suffered hospitalizations for breakdowns in twenty fifteen and twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: underscoring the toll of reliving horrors and depositions. Now we
20:15
Speaker 1: can do a whole episode on Virginia and her allegations.
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Speaker 1: There are so many, with so many names, so many
20:20
Speaker 1: deeply disturbing things that she claimed she saw, things that
20:23
Speaker 1: she claimed happened to her, involving everyone from Bill Clinton
20:26
Speaker 1: to Bill Gates, Alan Dershowitz, Lots of individuals Virginia named
20:30
Speaker 1: and talked about. But we need to save that for
20:32
Speaker 1: another episode because eventually, just this year, something would happen
20:36
Speaker 1: to Virginia. In the months leading up to her death,
20:39
Speaker 1: Virginia Gouffrey faced escalating personal turmoil amid her continued advocacy
20:43
Speaker 1: against Epstein's network. On January ninth of this year, during
20:47
Speaker 1: a family trip to Western Australia to celebrate her daughter's
20:50
Speaker 1: fifteenth birthday, Virginia was allegedly beaten severely by her estranged
20:54
Speaker 1: husband of twenty two years, Robert Gouffrey, after she refused
20:58
Speaker 1: his advances for The assault left Virginia with a cracked sternum,
21:02
Speaker 1: a perforated eye, extensive facial bruising and cuts, and required
21:06
Speaker 1: hospitalization at Royal Perth Hospital, where she texted her mother, quote, Mommy,
21:11
Speaker 1: please call me when you are awake. Rob did it again.
21:13
Speaker 1: I'm in the hospital and I need your voice to
21:16
Speaker 1: help me calm down. End quote. Virginia reported the incident
21:19
Speaker 1: to the police that day, but no charges were ever
21:21
Speaker 1: filed against her husband, Robert, who swiftly countersued with a
21:25
Speaker 1: family violence restraining order, claiming that Virginia had assaulted him
21:29
Speaker 1: and was mentally unstable. In February twenty twenty five, Robert
21:32
Speaker 1: filed for primary custody of their three children, aged nineteen,
21:36
Speaker 1: sixteen and fifteen, prohibiting Virginia from contacting the kids until June,
21:41
Speaker 1: a restriction. She was accused of breaching on February tewod
21:44
Speaker 1: by sending him a text message. Virginia's diary entries from
21:47
Speaker 1: this time period revealed Robert's growing jealousy over her fame
21:51
Speaker 1: from exposing Epstein and Prince Andrew, accusing him daily of infidelity,
21:55
Speaker 1: controlling behavior, and also accusing him of gambling away millions
21:59
Speaker 1: from her settlement with Maxwell the Epstein estate, Prince Andrew
22:03
Speaker 1: and JP Morgan Chase you see before all this In
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, over a year ago, the couple had
22:08
Speaker 1: already separated, but they remained legally married, and Virginia was
22:12
Speaker 1: living on her farm in near Gabby, and Robert was
22:15
Speaker 1: living in the couple's family home in Ocean Reef, about
22:18
Speaker 1: thirty miles away from each other. On March twenty fourth,
22:20
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Virginia was allegedly involved in a car
22:24
Speaker 1: accident when her vehicle was struck by a school bus
22:27
Speaker 1: traveling over forty nine miles per hour, causing severe damage
22:30
Speaker 1: to her car that her brother, Sky Roberts, later inspected
22:34
Speaker 1: and verified for himself. Now interestingly, I think it's the
22:37
Speaker 1: school bus driver. It was somebody involved in the crash.
22:39
Speaker 1: They claimed initially that the damage done to Virginia's vehicle
22:43
Speaker 1: was only minor, essentially like a dent and a scrape,
22:46
Speaker 1: but after checking out the status of the car for himself,
22:49
Speaker 1: Sky Roberts, Virginia's brother, publicly disputed this claim and stated
22:53
Speaker 1: that the damage was much more intense than anyone had
22:56
Speaker 1: initially reported. Weird, Why is there that discrepancy? That's just
23:00
Speaker 1: the first red flag and little bit of weirdness that
23:02
Speaker 1: starts really coming in here. Then a few days later,
23:05
Speaker 1: Virginia posted on Instagram on March thirtieth about being hospitalized
23:09
Speaker 1: and near death with kidney failure, which her family interpreted
23:12
Speaker 1: as a desperate plea for help to reach her isolated children,
23:16
Speaker 1: though the exact cause of this kidney failure, whether complications
23:19
Speaker 1: from the beating, the car crash, or both, remained and
23:22
Speaker 1: still remains unclear. In early April of twenty twenty five,
23:26
Speaker 1: Virginia publicly addressed the domestic violence in a statement, saying
23:29
Speaker 1: I was able to fight back against Gleane Maxwell and
23:32
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein who entrusted me, but I was unable to
23:35
Speaker 1: escape the domestic violence in my marriage until recently, after
23:39
Speaker 1: my husband's latest physical assault, I can no longer stay silent.
23:42
Speaker 1: On April first, she emailed her publisher about finalizing her memoir,
23:46
Speaker 1: Nobody's Girl, a memoir of surviving and fighting for justice
23:50
Speaker 1: despite her deteriorating health. Her journal had captured profound despair
23:55
Speaker 1: over her separation from her children, as she wrote to
23:57
Speaker 1: them in the journal, every day that I don't see
23:59
Speaker 1: your faces has a little less light. The world is
24:02
Speaker 1: dimmer without you in it, underscoring how her advocacy clashed
24:05
Speaker 1: with her own battles at home, as her sister in law,
24:08
Speaker 1: Amanda Roberts noted she had become a spokesperson against but
24:12
Speaker 1: she wasn't able to do that battle and the one
24:15
Speaker 1: at home at the same time end quote. However, on
24:17
Speaker 1: April twenty fifth, two thousand and five, Virginia Guffrey was
24:21
Speaker 1: found dead when her brother Sky Roberts, discovered her unresponsive
24:25
Speaker 1: at her farm in near Gabby, Western Australia, where she
24:28
Speaker 1: had lived for several years after relocating from the United States.
24:32
Speaker 1: Her brother, Sky, who had been checking in on Virginia
24:34
Speaker 1: amidst her recent health struggles, immediately attempted to resuscitate her
24:38
Speaker 1: using CPR before emergency medical services arrived, but unfortunately, Virginia
24:43
Speaker 1: was pronounced dead at the scene. Australian authorities and her
24:46
Speaker 1: family quickly ruled the death a self deletion, with no
24:50
Speaker 1: foul play suspected. Those specific details, like the method of
24:54
Speaker 1: Virginia's death, were never publicly disclosed by officials. Virginia, aged
24:58
Speaker 1: forty one, had been living in isolation on the rural property,
25:01
Speaker 1: separated from her kids due to that ongoing custody restriction
25:05
Speaker 1: imposed in February, which her family described as exacerbating her
25:08
Speaker 1: emotional pain. Following the discovery, her body was released to
25:12
Speaker 1: Robert Gouffrey, her husband, who organized a small private cremation
25:16
Speaker 1: ceremony shortly afterwards, to which her siblings and extended family
25:20
Speaker 1: were not invited, further straining relations. The family issued a
25:24
Speaker 1: public statement that evening via email, confirming the self deletion
25:28
Speaker 1: and honoring her as a fierce warrior against while emphasizing
25:32
Speaker 1: her lifelong fight for justice despite the personal toll it
25:35
Speaker 1: took on her. Her longtime representative and lawyer, Sigrid McCauley,
25:39
Speaker 1: addressed the news somberly, noting Virginia's recent completion of her
25:43
Speaker 1: memoir just a few weeks prior, which is now actually
25:46
Speaker 1: going to be released on October twenty first of this year,
25:49
Speaker 1: as a testament to her voice. However, the rapid confirmation
25:52
Speaker 1: of Virginia's death of having been a self deletion by
25:55
Speaker 1: authorities without an autopsy summary or formal investigation, left immediate
26:00
Speaker 1: gaps in transparency as her family continued to grieve privately.
26:04
Speaker 1: You see several suspicious elements swirl around the death of
26:07
Speaker 1: Virginia Gouffrey, which have fueled public skepticism due to her
26:10
Speaker 1: pivotal role in the Epstein scandal. For example, her father
26:14
Speaker 1: Sky Roberts, not her brother. Sky Roberts is her brother,
26:17
Speaker 1: and there's also a Sky Roberts who is her father.
26:20
Speaker 1: Her father publicly disputed the official ruling in public interviews,
26:25
Speaker 1: insisting inconsistencies in the timeline and circumstances point into possible
26:30
Speaker 1: foul play. Online discussions have speculated that Virginia may have
26:33
Speaker 1: been killed to keep her quiet about her knowledge of
26:36
Speaker 1: Epstein's elite network, or even theorized that she may have
26:39
Speaker 1: been placed in witness protection with a faked death drawn
26:42
Speaker 1: direct parallels to the death of Epstein himself, and now
26:45
Speaker 1: this is spooky. A chilling tweet from twenty nineteen also
26:48
Speaker 1: resurfaced after Virginia's death, in which she wrote, quote, I
26:51
Speaker 1: am making it publicly known that in no way, shape
26:54
Speaker 1: or form am I. I have made this known to
26:57
Speaker 1: my therapist and GP. If something happens to me in
27:00
Speaker 1: the sake of my family, do not let this go
27:02
Speaker 1: away and help me to protect them. Too. Many evil
27:05
Speaker 1: people want to see me quieted. End quote. So when
27:08
Speaker 1: you have someone saying that and then you have this happening, hmmm,
27:11
Speaker 1: A little bit weird. The March twenty fourth car accident
27:14
Speaker 1: also raised red flags, with Virginia's brother, Sky Roberts, noting
27:18
Speaker 1: the vehicle's extensive damage contradicted the bus driver's claim of
27:22
Speaker 1: a minor collision, which suggests possible staging or a targeted hit,
27:27
Speaker 1: a targeted attempt on Virginia's life potentially. Critics questioned why
27:31
Speaker 1: authorities withheld details on Virginia's self deletion method, her autopsy findings,
27:36
Speaker 1: and her toxicology report, which in the eyes of many,
27:39
Speaker 1: mirrored some of the lapses in the official narratives or
27:42
Speaker 1: transparency scene in both Epstein's and John Luke's cases. Virginia's lawyer,
27:47
Speaker 1: Sigurd McCauley addressed the rampant speculation in an interview in
27:51
Speaker 1: May of this year and urged folks to focus on
27:54
Speaker 1: Virginia's legacy rather than unproven theories. Yet she admitted the
27:58
Speaker 1: pain of her client's fears of being being silenced had
28:01
Speaker 1: been real despite official closures. These elements, combined with her
28:05
Speaker 1: status as the third known Epstein victim to die by
28:08
Speaker 1: self deletion or have made people obviously distrust the official
28:13
Speaker 1: narrative here. I mean lots of survivors have said I
28:15
Speaker 1: am afraid of being silenced. Virginia said she would never
28:18
Speaker 1: do this. All of a sudden, all this stuff happens.
28:21
Speaker 1: I remember when this was happening, and it was really
28:23
Speaker 1: really bizarre seeing the sequence of events play out in
28:26
Speaker 1: real time. And you have to remember here too. So
28:29
Speaker 1: we've had a pretty eventful year with Epstein, obviously, So
28:32
Speaker 1: you got Trump coming into office, obviously, there's tons of
28:35
Speaker 1: Epstein talk. Pam Bondi is saying, Oh, we're going to
28:37
Speaker 1: release the files, and I've got them on my desk,
28:40
Speaker 1: and there's all this and this, and they invite those
28:42
Speaker 1: smarmy influencers out to the White House or wherever the
28:46
Speaker 1: hell they were, with those stupid ass binders that say
28:49
Speaker 1: whatever the Epstein Files Volume one, which is the dumbest
28:53
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. I'm sorry to be vulgar,
28:56
Speaker 1: but it's so stupid because those documents, most of them,
29:01
Speaker 1: were already out there publicly except when they were given
29:04
Speaker 1: to these influencers by Pam Bondi. They had been redacted,
29:08
Speaker 1: but the unredacted versions of these documents were already widely
29:11
Speaker 1: available to anybody who wanted to access them online. So
29:14
Speaker 1: she was giving them less information than you could find online.
29:19
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother tangent, But you have to think
29:21
Speaker 1: about it. All of a sudden, Virginia Gouffrey, the main
29:24
Speaker 1: Epstein accuser ties to Trump at mar A Lago, She's
29:28
Speaker 1: the one that's been leading the charge against Epstein. She suddenly,
29:31
Speaker 1: out of the blue dies, She's gone. And then about
29:36
Speaker 1: two months later, two and a half months later, that's
29:38
Speaker 1: when the Department of Justice and FBI released that joint
29:42
Speaker 1: memo saying Epstein never anyone, He only victimized these young
29:46
Speaker 1: girls himself. There was no network. They waited until Virginia
29:51
Speaker 1: was dead, the main voice of the victims to drop
29:54
Speaker 1: that knowledge and to drop that memo, which thus kicked
29:57
Speaker 1: off a massive wave of Epstein disclosures and discussion. And
30:01
Speaker 1: just imagine, if Virginia would have been alive right now,
30:04
Speaker 1: everybody would have been interviewing her. Everybody would have wanted
30:07
Speaker 1: to speak with her. She probably would have disclosed stuff
30:09
Speaker 1: that we still don't even know. She would have definitely
30:11
Speaker 1: been in the news cycle all the time, on Capitol Hill, protesting,
30:15
Speaker 1: leading the charge. But she's gone. That's one thing that
30:19
Speaker 1: you have to consider with all these deaths. It's not
30:22
Speaker 1: only how these people died and all that sort of
30:25
Speaker 1: a thing. But it's also the convenient timing of the
30:29
Speaker 1: deaths of so many of these people right before they're
30:32
Speaker 1: set to go to trial, or right before this big
30:35
Speaker 1: thing happened, or right after they said this. It's like,
30:39
Speaker 1: we don't even understand exactly the tools and weapons that
30:42
Speaker 1: not only the US government as a whole has in
30:44
Speaker 1: their possession, but also like members of intelligence communities and
30:48
Speaker 1: services what they have, which is truly frightening. But yeah,
30:52
Speaker 1: rip to Virginia. That was a terribly tragic ending to
30:55
Speaker 1: her story. But still it's really only the beginning. Death
30:58
Speaker 1: Number four Carolyn and Triano, the teen recruit whose silence
31:02
Speaker 1: became eternal. Carolyn Andriano was born in nineteen eighty seven
31:06
Speaker 1: in Florida and grew up in a financially strained household
31:09
Speaker 1: marked by instability and early trauma that would profoundly shape
31:12
Speaker 1: her life. At the age of four, she endured by
31:15
Speaker 1: a relative, an experience that left her deeply scarred. Her mother,
31:18
Speaker 1: Dorothy Groenert, worked multiple jobs to support the family without
31:22
Speaker 1: government assistance, though she faced her own legal troubles, including
31:25
Speaker 1: charges for possession. In two thousand and two and narcotic
31:29
Speaker 1: paraphernalia in two thousand and four, both of which were
31:32
Speaker 1: not fully pursued by the law. Carolyn described having a
31:35
Speaker 1: close bond with her mother throughout her life, calling the
31:37
Speaker 1: two of them partners in crime who attended concerts and
31:40
Speaker 1: shared activities together. Carolyn dropped out of school in the
31:43
Speaker 1: seventh grade and never returned, entering a chaotic adolescence influenced
31:47
Speaker 1: by her family's circumstances and her own unresolved pain. By
31:50
Speaker 1: her early teens, she was already entangled in a world
31:53
Speaker 1: of hardship, confining in others about her history of and
31:56
Speaker 1: familial addiction, issues which her exploiters and would later use
32:00
Speaker 1: and weaponize against her. Carolyn's association with Jeffrey Epstein began
32:05
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, when she was just fourteen
32:07
Speaker 1: years old, and she was introduced to Epstein through Virginia Goufray,
32:11
Speaker 1: who then at the time was dating a convicted with
32:14
Speaker 1: ties to Epstein. Virginia, approximately seventeen at the time, recruited
32:19
Speaker 1: Carolyn under the pretense of giving massages for money, leading
32:22
Speaker 1: her to visit Epstein's opulent mansion about one hundred times
32:25
Speaker 1: over four years, often three or four times a week.
32:28
Speaker 1: Each visit netted Carolyn three hundred to four hundred dollars
32:32
Speaker 1: in cash, which she shared with Goufrey, but the massages
32:35
Speaker 1: quickly escalated into by Epstein, whom her up to three
32:39
Speaker 1: times percession until she aged out at eighteen and was
32:42
Speaker 1: deemed too old for his preferences. Glene Maxwell herself played
32:46
Speaker 1: a central role in the grooming process as well, routinely
32:49
Speaker 1: scheduling these encounters Carolyn during visits and exploiting the teen's
32:53
Speaker 1: confessions about her childhood's and her mother's addictions to build
32:57
Speaker 1: trust and dependency. Epstein and Maxwell attempted to lure Carolyn
33:01
Speaker 1: to Epstein's island multiple times, but Carolyn resisted, reminding Epstein
33:05
Speaker 1: she was only fifteen and unable to leave the state
33:08
Speaker 1: without permission. The fueled Carolyn's descent into as she later testified,
33:13
Speaker 1: she turned to alcohol to block out the trauma of
33:18
Speaker 1: the massage appointments, marking the beginning of a lifelong struggle
33:22
Speaker 1: with substance abuse that would eventually take an alleged tragic turn.
33:25
Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, Carolyn filed a lawsuit against
33:28
Speaker 1: Epstein and his assistant, Sarah Kellen resulting in a confidential
33:32
Speaker 1: settlement that later deducted four hundred and forty six thousand
33:35
Speaker 1: dollars from her three point twenty five million dollar award
33:38
Speaker 1: from the Epstein Victim Compensation Fund. Her pivotal testimony came
33:42
Speaker 1: during Galaine Maxwell's twenty twenty one federal trial in Manhattan,
33:47
Speaker 1: where she was one of only four victims to take
33:49
Speaker 1: the stand, initially using just her first name for anonymity
33:52
Speaker 1: before publicly revealing her identity post conviction to inspire other
33:56
Speaker 1: survivors to come forward. During cross examination, when asked if
34:00
Speaker 1: money could fix her pain, she firmly replied, yes, but
34:03
Speaker 1: no money will ever fix what's happened to me, underscoring
34:06
Speaker 1: the irreversible damage done by Epstein. A juror later described
34:09
Speaker 1: her account as the most gripping and her life story
34:12
Speaker 1: is one of the hardest, evoking the deepest compassion amongst
34:15
Speaker 1: the panel. Carolyn also implicated Virginia Guffray and her testimony,
34:19
Speaker 1: accusing her of her into Epstein's world, and she also
34:22
Speaker 1: credited her husband John with spending twelve years helping her
34:26
Speaker 1: regain self love. Carolyn, as she grew older, had two
34:29
Speaker 1: children in a previous relationship before meeting her husband, John
34:32
Speaker 1: Pitts Junior, with whom she would have three more children,
34:35
Speaker 1: forming a blended family of five that she fiercely protected.
34:39
Speaker 1: In adulthood, Carolyn worked to rebuild her life, purchasing a
34:42
Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy thousand dollars home in Wellington, Florida,
34:45
Speaker 1: in the spring before Glene Maxwell's trial, only to sell
34:48
Speaker 1: it in April twenty twenty three, and by a two
34:50
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five thousand dollars property in North Carolina
34:54
Speaker 1: in May, signaling a hope for a fresh start. Throughout
34:56
Speaker 1: her later years, she managed multiple medications, including for addiction recovery,
35:01
Speaker 1: an antidepressant Xanax for anxiety, and a prescription for schizophrenia,
35:05
Speaker 1: while also expressing fears that her children could be kidnapped
35:09
Speaker 1: due to her Epstein connections. But unfortunately, Carolyn's life would
35:12
Speaker 1: eventually come to a sudden and tragic end. Carolyn Andreano's
35:16
Speaker 1: death unfolded on May twenty third, twenty twenty three, when
35:19
Speaker 1: her husband John discovered her unresponsive and naked in their
35:23
Speaker 1: bed at the Double Tree by Hilton Hotel in West
35:25
Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida, at around seven forty five a m.
35:28
Speaker 1: On that day, John reported that Carolyn had been vomiting
35:31
Speaker 1: the previous night and appeared ill upon waking, which had
35:34
Speaker 1: prompted him to perform CPR until paramedics arrived, but unfortunately,
35:38
Speaker 1: she was pronounced dead at the scene. The couple had
35:41
Speaker 1: been temporarily residing in the hotel after selling their Wellington,
35:44
Speaker 1: Florida home, and had recently returned from North Carolina, where
35:47
Speaker 1: they purchased that two hundred and sixty five thousand dollars property.
35:51
Speaker 1: Police investigators in the hotel room found a small a
35:54
Speaker 1: baggie containing white residue and a hypodermic needle in Carolyn's purse,
35:59
Speaker 1: alongside several vodka bottles in the room, though a toxicology
36:02
Speaker 1: report curiously later confirmed that she had no alcohol in
36:05
Speaker 1: her system at her time of death. The Palm Beach
36:08
Speaker 1: County Medical Examiner's Office conducted in autopsy and toxicology analysis,
36:13
Speaker 1: revealing lethal levels of it's in her bloodstream, and ruled
36:17
Speaker 1: Carolyn's death and accidental on the spot. West Palm Beach
36:21
Speaker 1: Police spokesperson Mike Jackals announced that the investigation was closed
36:25
Speaker 1: shortly afterwards, with no signs of foul play. Detected. At
36:29
Speaker 1: the time of her passing, Carolyn was thirty six years
36:31
Speaker 1: old and left behind her five children, her husband, her mother,
36:34
Speaker 1: and approximately one hundred and eighty three thousand dollars in
36:37
Speaker 1: a savings account, with pending settlement payments coming in from J. P.
36:41
Speaker 1: Morgan and Deutsche Bank. Now. Medical toxicology expert Lewis Nelson,
36:46
Speaker 1: reviewing the final report, noted that the appeared to be
36:49
Speaker 1: a recent addition to her usual regiment, which created a
36:53
Speaker 1: deadly respiratory depressing combination with the alprazilam that likely caused
36:57
Speaker 1: her rapid death. Pitt's sister, Surena Pitts, later emphasized the
37:01
Speaker 1: family's grief and tried to focus on the children's care,
37:04
Speaker 1: requesting privacy from the public amongst the tragedy. However, several
37:08
Speaker 1: suspicious elements have cast a shadow over the official ruling
37:12
Speaker 1: of Carolyn's death, prompting her family to demand further scrutiny
37:15
Speaker 1: and fueling online speculation. For example, her mother, Dorothy Groener,
37:19
Speaker 1: vehemently contested the accidental determination, insisting that Carolyn was ecstatic
37:25
Speaker 1: about her life and had texted her recently about having
37:29
Speaker 1: been sober for months. In fact, Carolyn's mother said before
37:33
Speaker 1: her death, Carolyn had been talking to her about she
37:35
Speaker 1: and her husband John's plan to have a fresh start
37:38
Speaker 1: in North Carolina with the kids. Carolyn's mother also highlighted
37:41
Speaker 1: some strange anomalies found at her death scene, like the
37:44
Speaker 1: empty vodka bottles that were found in the room despite
37:47
Speaker 1: zero alcohol being found in Carolyn's body, questioning why such
37:51
Speaker 1: evidence was present if she hadn't recently been drinking. Carolyn's
37:54
Speaker 1: mother bombarded local authorities with pleas for meetings and updates, declaring,
37:58
Speaker 1: nobody's giving me any answers, and you know well what,
38:00
Speaker 1: I'm over it. This is my daughter and she deserves justice,
38:03
Speaker 1: and begged that the case not be prematurely closed. Carolyn's brother, Joey,
38:08
Speaker 1: also later stated that he had grown alarmed in the
38:10
Speaker 1: days prior to her death, noting that his sister had
38:13
Speaker 1: taken on an unusually groggy demeanor during phone calls during
38:17
Speaker 1: which her husband had dominated the conversations. He also questioned
38:20
Speaker 1: why her husband didn't call an ambulance when Carolyn fell ill,
38:23
Speaker 1: as he had dismissed these initial concerns by saying, oh, no,
38:27
Speaker 1: she's all right, it's going to be fine. The recent
38:29
Speaker 1: use as posited by expert Lewis Nelson, also suggested an
38:33
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic deviation from Carolyn's stable routine, which only served to
38:38
Speaker 1: raise doubts about how such a potent killer substance had
38:42
Speaker 1: entered Carolyn's system. Amidst her reported recovery. In June twenty
38:46
Speaker 1: twenty four, following the unsealing of over one hundred and
38:49
Speaker 1: fifty Epstein related names in court documents, Carolyn's mother publicly
38:53
Speaker 1: reiterated her grief, stating that the had destroyed my life
38:57
Speaker 1: and implied with her statement that she herself was continuing
39:00
Speaker 1: to receive some sort of veiled threats from the larger
39:03
Speaker 1: Epstein network. While not directly alleging that her daughter was murdered,
39:07
Speaker 1: Carolyn's mother's please echoed the many Epstein death conspiracies, and
39:11
Speaker 1: theorists note that Carolyn was the second Palm Beach County
39:14
Speaker 1: Epstein survivor to die from an after Lee sky Patrick
39:18
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, whose twin sister blamed Epstein explicitly death
39:22
Speaker 1: number five. Lee sky Patrick the forgotten Accuser's fatal fall.
39:26
Speaker 1: Lee sky Patrick was born in nineteen eighty eight in Lakeworth, Florida,
39:30
Speaker 1: into a working class family, where she grew up alongside
39:32
Speaker 1: her identical twin sister, Selby Patrick. As a teenager, she
39:36
Speaker 1: attended Wellington Christian School, from which she graduated, but she
39:40
Speaker 1: was known amongst friends and family as a wild child
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Speaker 1: who began drinking alcohol under age, often making impulsive decisions
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Speaker 1: influenced by peer pressure and adolescent rebellion. Her family described
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Speaker 1: Lee as having had a close knit sibling bond with
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Speaker 1: her sister, Selby, who later became a bank supervisor and
39:56
Speaker 1: would play a pivotal role in caring for Lee's child
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Speaker 1: after she died. Lee's association with Epstein began in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and three, when she was just sixteen years old,
40:06
Speaker 1: during a period of youthful curiosity and risk taking that
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Speaker 1: would alter her life irrevocably. That year. In two thousand
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Speaker 1: and three, while attending a party at a school friend's
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Speaker 1: house in Palm Beach, another acquaintance suggested they head to
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Speaker 1: what was described as an exclusive house party, only for
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Speaker 1: Lee to find herself alone at Epstein's sprawling mansion after
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Speaker 1: her friend abruptly left. Epstein, clad only in a towel,
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Speaker 1: greeted her alongside a woman who appeared to be his employee,
40:32
Speaker 1: creating an immediately unsettling atmosphere, which was amplified by a
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Speaker 1: black and white photograph of that Epstein had hanging up
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Speaker 1: on the wall that Lee would later state was particularly creepy.
40:43
Speaker 1: Glenyne Maxwell, known to the girls as Gillian, played a
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Speaker 1: key role in Lee's recruitment and quickly lured her and
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Speaker 1: her friends in with promises of a glamorous high life,
40:52
Speaker 1: including modeling opportunities and access to a mega rich playboy's world,
40:56
Speaker 1: which sadly did entice the impressionable teens. Ing her initial visit,
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Speaker 1: Epstein offered Lee three hundred dollars to give him a
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Speaker 1: massage and remove her shirt, but the situation escalated when
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Speaker 1: he grew aggressive, demanding she'd take off her bra and
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Speaker 1: when she wouldn't, he even tried to rip it off himself,
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Speaker 1: which prompted Lee to flee in terror. And despite this
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Speaker 1: traumatic first encounter, Lee, tempted by the money and power,
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Speaker 1: returned to Epstein's mansion multiple times over the following year,
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Speaker 1: where she endured repeated by Epstein, who exploited her vulnerability
41:27
Speaker 1: and the financial incentives to ensure that she stayed silent.
41:30
Speaker 1: Lee would end up visiting the Palm Beach residence many times,
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Speaker 1: each instance deepening the psychological scars that her family later
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Speaker 1: linked directly to the onset of her addictions. Years later,
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Speaker 1: in a confidential settlement, Lee and a friend who had
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Speaker 1: also been received fifty thousand dollars each from Epstein, a
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Speaker 1: sum that, rather than providing relief, fueled Lee's downward spiral
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Speaker 1: into as it enabled her access to alcohol, and this
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Speaker 1: period marked the beginning of a profound betrayal of trust,
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Speaker 1: as Glaine Maxwell's hiss grooming tactics preyed on Lee's dreams
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Speaker 1: of escape from her modest upbringing, transforming what was sold
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Speaker 1: as an opportunity into a nightmare of exploitation. However, as
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Speaker 1: with the other survivors we've talked about here, eventually Lee
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Speaker 1: escaped from Epstein and Maxwell and attempted to start anew
42:15
Speaker 1: By her early twenties, free from their grasp, Lee had
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Speaker 1: become a mother to a son named Jaden born around
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, whom she adored deeply despite her personal struggles.
42:24
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, at age twenty seven, she got engaged
42:28
Speaker 1: to Jaden's father and expressed optimism about her future, having
42:31
Speaker 1: recently completed rehab and applied for a job selling insurance,
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Speaker 1: while at the same time celebrating three years of sobriety. However,
42:38
Speaker 1: her life continued to be marred by legal troubles stemming
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Speaker 1: from her battles with and She was arrested twelve times
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Speaker 1: between two thousand and four and twenty seventeen for offenses
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Speaker 1: like possession, domestic battery, resisting arrest, battery on a law
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Speaker 1: enforcement officer, assault, and trespassing. Most of the time these
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Speaker 1: incidents revolved around her desperate attempts to see her her son, Jaden,
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Speaker 1: who had been placed in her sister Selby's custody due
43:03
Speaker 1: to Lee's addiction issues. But despite these challenges, Lee maintained
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Speaker 1: a network of friends who remembered her as resilient and vibrant,
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Speaker 1: though her path was increasingly defined by the shadows of
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Speaker 1: trauma from her youth, and then she was found dead.
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Speaker 1: The circumstances of Lee sky Patrick's death were discovered on
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Speaker 1: May thirtieth, twenty seventeen, when cleaning staff at the Tree
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Speaker 1: Tops Motel in West Palm Beach, Florida forced entry into
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Speaker 1: her room after receiving no response from the occupant. Inside
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Speaker 1: of the dark motel room. The hotel staff found Lee's
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Speaker 1: nude body lying eerily, still partially covered by a sheet,
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Speaker 1: on a twin bed, and at twenty nine years old,
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Speaker 1: just weeks shive of thirty. She was deceased. After the
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Speaker 1: authorities were called and examinations were performed, it was noted
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Speaker 1: that Lee's body was covered in bruises, abrasions, open wounds,
43:48
Speaker 1: and sores at the time of her death, suggesting recent
43:51
Speaker 1: physical distress, beating her, conflict, or even neglect in the
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Speaker 1: days leading up to her death. The Palm Beach County
43:56
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office investigation revealed that a man who had rented
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Speaker 1: the room for her had picked Lee up earlier that evening,
44:03
Speaker 1: while she appeared beaten and under the influence of and
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Speaker 1: had brought her back to the motel, where he then
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Speaker 1: witnessed her. This anonymous individual claim that he later on
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Speaker 1: that night flushed Lee's remaining and piped down the toilet
44:16
Speaker 1: before he left her under the assumption she would recover
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Speaker 1: as she had briefly woken up from her filled stupor,
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Speaker 1: but he returned the next day to find her unresponsive.
44:24
Speaker 1: The local medical Examiner's office then conducted an autopsy and
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Speaker 1: toxicology analysis, and determined that Lee's cause of death was accidentally,
44:33
Speaker 1: attributing it broadly to the ongoing opiate crisis ravaging Florida
44:38
Speaker 1: at the time. This tragic a end came nearly two
44:40
Speaker 1: weeks after her most recent release from jail, where she
44:42
Speaker 1: had served a seventeen day sentence for trespassing trying to
44:46
Speaker 1: see her son Jaden. News of Lee's death spread quietly
44:48
Speaker 1: at first, a resurfaced prominently in twenty nineteen amidst Epstein's arrest.
44:53
Speaker 1: Numerous suspicious elements and pointed accusations have lingered surrounding Lee
44:57
Speaker 1: sky Patrick's passing, primarily driven by her family's unyielding blame
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Speaker 1: on Epstein and Maxwell for catalyzing her fatal addiction. Lee's
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Speaker 1: sister Selby, has repeatedly asserted that her sister's downward spiral
45:10
Speaker 1: began immediately after her encounters with Epstein, stating, quote, my
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Speaker 1: sister suffered tremendously and it started with Epstein. Something happened
45:18
Speaker 1: in her when she met him that got her out
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Speaker 1: of control end quote. Selby has also emphasized that the
45:23
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars settlement awarded to sky in the wake
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Speaker 1: of her by Epstein and Maxwell quote provided Sky with
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Speaker 1: cash for drink and then end quote, likening it to
45:32
Speaker 1: Epstein handing her a death sentence. Selby also stated, quote
45:36
Speaker 1: it was Glaine who recruited Sky's friends into his world
45:39
Speaker 1: and then demanded that all those who helped Epstein should
45:42
Speaker 1: be locked up and the key thrown away end quote. Now,
45:45
Speaker 1: the visible bruises, abrasions, open wounds, and sores on Lee's
45:49
Speaker 1: body at the time of her death raised immediate concerns
45:52
Speaker 1: about unreported violence in her final days, especially given the
45:56
Speaker 1: specific motel she was at Transient Nature and the unnamed
46:00
Speaker 1: man's account of finding her already beaten and in a
46:03
Speaker 1: bad way before the fatal raised eyebrows. Who is this guy?
46:07
Speaker 1: I couldn't find any information about this guy. Just reports
46:10
Speaker 1: about this guy trying to help her out or finding her.
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Speaker 1: And it's so weird. She's covered in bruises and sores,
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Speaker 1: like she's been badly beaten up or something's happened to her,
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Speaker 1: but nobody knows what happened to her. And obviously, in
46:22
Speaker 1: the wake of Epstein's twenty nineteen death, Lee's case was
46:25
Speaker 1: brought up again, claiming that her demise was just a
46:28
Speaker 1: part of a trail of death, potentially orchestrated by those
46:31
Speaker 1: complicit alongside Epstein to silence witnesses, though no concrete evidence
46:36
Speaker 1: of foul play has ever emerged. Death number six Joe Riccarie,
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Speaker 1: The Detective who dared to dig too deep. Joseph Ercarrey
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Speaker 1: was born in nineteen sixty seven and began his law
46:47
Speaker 1: enforcement career with the Palm Beach Police Department in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety five, quickly establishing himself as a dedicated officer who
46:54
Speaker 1: advanced to detective in two thousand and one. Throughout his tenure,
46:57
Speaker 1: Joe was known amongst colleagues for his thorough invent investigative
47:00
Speaker 1: skills and passion for protecting vulnerable individuals, particularly in cases
47:05
Speaker 1: involving child exploitation. By the time of his retirement in
47:08
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Joe had become a respected figure in local policing,
47:12
Speaker 1: though details of his post retirement years remained private. However,
47:16
Speaker 1: as with all these other victims and deaths, Joe was
47:18
Speaker 1: tied to Epstein in a very significant way. His most
47:21
Speaker 1: significant association with the scandal came in two thousand and five,
47:25
Speaker 1: when Joe was assigned to lead the Palm Beach Police
47:28
Speaker 1: Department's investigation into allegations at Epstein's mansion following a mother's
47:33
Speaker 1: tip about her stepdaughter's involvement. Over the course of the investigation,
47:37
Speaker 1: Joe interviewed more than thirty underaged victims, meticulously documenting Epstein's
47:42
Speaker 1: scheme of recruiting girls as young as fourteen for massages,
47:45
Speaker 1: and he amassed evidence supporting over forty criminal counts against Epstein.
47:50
Speaker 1: His relentless efforts culminated in Epstein's two thousand and six arrest,
47:54
Speaker 1: but Joe expressed frustration when state prosecutors, influenced by Epstein's
47:58
Speaker 1: elite connections, cured that lenient non prosecution agreement that allowed
48:02
Speaker 1: Epstein to serve just thirteen months in a work release program.
48:06
Speaker 1: In grand jury testimony unsealed in twenty twenty four, Joe
48:09
Speaker 1: detailed how Epstein's assistance, including Glane Maxwell, helped to facilitate
48:14
Speaker 1: the underscoring the systemic failures that undermined his case. Joe Riccarey, however,
48:19
Speaker 1: would soon meet a tragic end of his own. Joe
48:21
Speaker 1: Riccarey passed away on May twenty fifth, twenty eighteen, at
48:25
Speaker 1: just fifty years old, surrounded by his loving family after
48:28
Speaker 1: a brief illness. No official cause was publicly disclosed in
48:31
Speaker 1: his obituary or by authorities, leaving the exact nature of
48:35
Speaker 1: his ailment ambiguous. Close sources later revealed to investigators and
48:39
Speaker 1: media that Joe had been managing sleep apnea for several years,
48:43
Speaker 1: a condition that allegedly and reportedly led to him passing
48:46
Speaker 1: away in his sleep. Though conflicting accounts do exist, like
48:50
Speaker 1: that of John Mark Dugan, an Epstein whistleblower who was
48:53
Speaker 1: also in the police department in Florida. He suggested that
48:57
Speaker 1: Joe died from a sudden cancer. Joe's wife, Jen and
49:00
Speaker 1: his family issued a simple statement after his death, honoring
49:03
Speaker 1: his legacy as a decorated officer and emphasized the private
49:06
Speaker 1: nature of his final days without providing any further details.
49:10
Speaker 1: And here's where it's weird. So several elements surrounding Joseph's
49:14
Speaker 1: death have fueled suspicions amongst Epstein case observers. However, people
49:18
Speaker 1: obviously believe he may have been silenced or killed because
49:21
Speaker 1: he was the man leading the charge in the early
49:23
Speaker 1: two thousands digging up all those initial reports. Who knows
49:26
Speaker 1: how much he knew or discovered that he had never disclosed,
49:30
Speaker 1: you know fully, in the midst of those initial investigations.
49:33
Speaker 1: The official description of a brief illness without any specifics
49:37
Speaker 1: has struck many as being opaque, especially contrasted with the
49:40
Speaker 1: transparency typically afforded to the passing of public servants. Epstein.
49:44
Speaker 1: Whistleblower John Mark Dugan, like I just said, amplified all
49:48
Speaker 1: these concerns about a mysterious death in interviews he gave
49:51
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two where he claimed that Joe died
49:54
Speaker 1: from a sudden cancer that was suspiciously timed amid renewed
49:58
Speaker 1: scrutiny of the two thousand and sis pleadio, though he provided
50:01
Speaker 1: no concrete evidence to back up his claims, Joe has
50:04
Speaker 1: always been included in the lists of suspicious deaths. Now,
50:08
Speaker 1: you may be thinking, unspecified illness. What's sketchy about that?
50:11
Speaker 1: We have no idea what the government can do or
50:15
Speaker 1: what they can do to a person. Slowly poison someone
50:17
Speaker 1: over time, infiltrate the food supply, pump chemicals into the home.
50:22
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows now. One death in that way
50:25
Speaker 1: is weird, But he's not the only person who died
50:28
Speaker 1: in a way like that. Death number seven Alfredo Rodriguez,
50:32
Speaker 1: The butler who stole secrets and paid the price. Alfredo
50:35
Speaker 1: Rodriguez was born in Bolivia and immigrated to the US,
50:38
Speaker 1: where he built a successful career as a house manager
50:41
Speaker 1: for affluent clients in South Florida, and, as you probably
50:45
Speaker 1: can guess, Alfredo eventually ended up working for Jeffrey Epstein.
50:49
Speaker 1: Alfredo was described by his family as an honest, caring
50:52
Speaker 1: individual who served as a moral anchor for those around him,
50:55
Speaker 1: often prioritizing their well being over his own. Prior to
50:58
Speaker 1: his involvement with Epstein, seen Alfredo managed estates for other
51:02
Speaker 1: wealthy individuals, honing skills in discretion and efficiency that made
51:06
Speaker 1: him a very trusted employee in elite circles. His professional
51:09
Speaker 1: reputation was one of reliability, and he had no prior
51:13
Speaker 1: criminal record or indications of personal turmoil. Intel the events
51:17
Speaker 1: surrounding Epstein unfolded. You see, while he worked for Epstein,
51:20
Speaker 1: Alfredo worked and lived at Epstein's Palm Beach estate, immersing
51:25
Speaker 1: himself in Epstein's opulent yet secretive world. Family members emphasized
51:29
Speaker 1: that Alfredo's life had been exemplary up to that point,
51:32
Speaker 1: marked by a dedication to his loved ones and a
51:34
Speaker 1: strong work ethic. However, something would quickly change in Alfredo
51:38
Speaker 1: and all This really started around two thousand and four
51:41
Speaker 1: when he was hired as the house manager or butler
51:44
Speaker 1: for Epstein's sprawling Palm Beach estate, a role that placed
51:47
Speaker 1: him at the epicenter of Epstein's illicit activities. Working this job,
51:51
Speaker 1: Alfredo's duties included cleaning Epstein's bedroom after massages that involved
51:56
Speaker 1: underaged girls, where he routinely disposed of and cleaned up
52:00
Speaker 1: that were left behind, and observed teenagers lounging by the pool.
52:04
Speaker 1: He witnessed Epstein viewing images of miners on home computers
52:09
Speaker 1: and even engaging in contact with them, details he later
52:12
Speaker 1: documented in a personal journal that he himself called the
52:15
Speaker 1: Holy Grail or Golden Nugget. This journal chronicled the full
52:19
Speaker 1: scope of Epstein's exploitation and included lists of victims and
52:23
Speaker 1: high profile contacts such as Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Mick Jagger,
52:27
Speaker 1: Barbara Walters, Henry Kissinger, and even members of the Kennedy family.
52:31
Speaker 1: Alfredo also maintained a copy of Epstein's infamous Black Book,
52:35
Speaker 1: which contained phone numbers for dozens of young women allegedly
52:38
Speaker 1: by Epstein and his associates. In January two thousand and seven,
52:42
Speaker 1: during the FBI's grand jury investigation into Epstein, Alfredo was
52:46
Speaker 1: interviewed but failed to disclose the existence of these materials,
52:49
Speaker 1: despite being asked to produce any relevant evidence. By July
52:53
Speaker 1: and August of two thousand and nine, fearing for his safety,
52:56
Speaker 1: Alfredo contacted an attorney representing Epstein's victims in at ten
52:59
Speaker 1: Tip to sell the Black Book and Journal to them
53:02
Speaker 1: for fifty thousand dollars, viewing them as an insurance policy
53:05
Speaker 1: against Epstein's threats. This is according to Alfredo, Epstein told
53:09
Speaker 1: him that he would make him disappear. Alfredo's widow later
53:12
Speaker 1: revealed that he knew intimate details about figures like Prince Andrew,
53:16
Speaker 1: whom Epstein allegedly supplied with teenaged girls, though he never
53:20
Speaker 1: made any of these admissions or knowledge public. Epstein's two
53:23
Speaker 1: thousand and six conviction resulting in that lenient thirteen month sentence,
53:27
Speaker 1: occurred smack dab in the middle of Alfredo's tenure working
53:30
Speaker 1: for Epstein, exposing the systemic leniency that frustrated his efforts
53:35
Speaker 1: to fully cooperate. However, Alfredo Rodriguez died on December twenty eighth,
53:39
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, after succumbing to quick acting mesothelioma at his
53:43
Speaker 1: home in Miami, Florida, after a grueling six month battle
53:47
Speaker 1: with the aggressive cancer. His widow, Patricia Dunn, confirmed his
53:50
Speaker 1: cause of death to dailymail dot Com, noting that the
53:53
Speaker 1: disease had progressed rapidly since his diagnosis earlier that year,
53:57
Speaker 1: leaving him frail and unable to share more of his
53:59
Speaker 1: life accumulated knowledge. Alfredo himself had been released from federal
54:03
Speaker 1: prison just months prior, having served approximately thirteen months of
54:07
Speaker 1: his eighteen month sentence that he was eventually given for
54:10
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice in the Epstein case, and the mesothelioma
54:14
Speaker 1: linked to his best dis exposure from unknown sources in
54:17
Speaker 1: his past. Manifested with severe respiratory issues that confined Alfredo
54:22
Speaker 1: to home care in his final weeks. Family members provided
54:25
Speaker 1: him emotional support during this period, though his wife admitted
54:28
Speaker 1: that she was unaware of the full extent of Epstein's
54:31
Speaker 1: secrets that Alfredo carried with him. No autopsy details beyond
54:35
Speaker 1: the cancer diagnosis were ever publicly released, and the death
54:38
Speaker 1: certificate listed natural causes without any further elaboration. News of
54:42
Speaker 1: his passing emerged in early January twenty fifteen, coinciding with
54:46
Speaker 1: renewed media scrutiny over Epstein's network, amid emerging allegations from
54:51
Speaker 1: Virginia Gouffrey against Epstein and his associates like Prince Andrew.
54:55
Speaker 1: At the time, though the whereabouts of Epstein's Black Book
54:58
Speaker 1: and Alfredo's Journal remained un known, with sources indicating that
55:01
Speaker 1: Epstein's legal team was deeply concerned about their potential resurfacing.
55:06
Speaker 1: Several suspicious elements have persistently shadowed the official account of
55:09
Speaker 1: Alfredo Rodriguez's death. For example, there's the rapid onset of
55:13
Speaker 1: his mesothelioma, diagnosed just six months before he died, which
55:17
Speaker 1: struck observers as obviously having been uncannily timed, occurring shortly
55:21
Speaker 1: after his prison release, and just as Virginia Gouffrey's civil
55:25
Speaker 1: lawsuit thrust Epstein's scandals back into the spotlight. Alfredo's possession
55:29
Speaker 1: of the Holy Grailed Journal in Epstein's Black Book, which
55:32
Speaker 1: detailed Epstein's of dozens of underaged girls, and his ties
55:36
Speaker 1: to elites like Prince Andrew and Jean lu Brunel also
55:39
Speaker 1: had positioned Alfredo as a potential bombshell witness whose death
55:43
Speaker 1: seemed to be incredibly fortuitous for the who had just
55:47
Speaker 1: been implicated. This is a guy that knew every secret
55:49
Speaker 1: of Epstein's He had actually written down these secrets in
55:52
Speaker 1: his own personal journal. He had the Black Book, he
55:55
Speaker 1: saw Epstein with the girls, he cleaned up after Epstein,
55:58
Speaker 1: he was Epstein's manager. Essentially, this guy would have been
56:03
Speaker 1: like literally a Holy Grail witness, and then right before
56:06
Speaker 1: all this stuff came back and resurfaced in the media,
56:08
Speaker 1: he's suddenly gone. There's also the fact that before he
56:11
Speaker 1: was arrested, Alfredo stated that Epstein had told him he
56:14
Speaker 1: would make him disappear, and family and online forums questioned
56:18
Speaker 1: whether his best dis exposure could have been deliberately induced
56:21
Speaker 1: or accelerated through covert means. I mean, he had literally
56:25
Speaker 1: talked about essentially how he was threatened in the past,
56:27
Speaker 1: told by those in the Epstein network that he was
56:29
Speaker 1: going to disappear, and he essentially did at an extremely
56:33
Speaker 1: suspicious moment in time. The undisclosed location of the incriminating
56:37
Speaker 1: documents like Epstein's Black Book or the Butler's Holy Grail
56:41
Speaker 1: heightened the paranoia amongst Epstein's legal team after Alfredo died,
56:45
Speaker 1: and reportedly Epstein's lawyers were petrified about the contents that
56:48
Speaker 1: could possibly emerge that would derail ongoing cases against their client.
56:53
Speaker 1: While no forensic evidence of foul play has ever surfaced,
56:56
Speaker 1: the lack of transparency in Alfredo's medical records and the cancers,
56:59
Speaker 1: aggressive trajectory, mirrored patterns, and other Epstein adjacent deaths. Obviously,
57:04
Speaker 1: as you know, we just talked about the guy who
57:08
Speaker 1: was the leading force in the initial Epstein investigation, and
57:12
Speaker 1: he died from the rapid onset of a you know,
57:15
Speaker 1: phantom disease. Somebody said it was cancer, and if it
57:19
Speaker 1: really was cancer, then it would be exactly like Alfredo's deaths.
57:22
Speaker 1: So then you'd have two rapid cancer deaths amongst these
57:26
Speaker 1: two guys dying. I think they both died in twenty fifteen.
57:29
Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that, but they died around you know,
57:32
Speaker 1: the same year, couple of years, and both died in
57:35
Speaker 1: similar manners, and both had extensive knowledge on Epstein. I
57:38
Speaker 1: think that that's incredibly bizarre. And obviously they never would
57:42
Speaker 1: have wanted this guy to testify because he wasn't absolutely
57:46
Speaker 1: he would have been a bombshell witness. He would have
57:47
Speaker 1: been a star witness, somebody who saw the operation of
57:51
Speaker 1: the network from the inside and knew it like the
57:53
Speaker 1: back of his hand. And yet he went away, and
57:56
Speaker 1: any secrets Alfredo had within him died alongside death number eight.
58:01
Speaker 1: Stephen Hoffenberg, the Ponzi scheme partner who fell from grace.
58:05
Speaker 1: Stephen Hoffenberg was born on January twelfth, nineteen forty five,
58:09
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York, to a Jewish family, a modest
58:12
Speaker 1: family that belied his later ambitions in finance. In nineteen
58:15
Speaker 1: seventy one, he pleaded guilty to attempted second degree larceny
58:19
Speaker 1: after trying to steal a diamond in New York in
58:21
Speaker 1: early brush with the law that he later admitted to
58:24
Speaker 1: during a civil trial as part of his involvement in theft.
58:27
Speaker 1: In the early nineteen seventies, Hoffenberg founded Towers Financial Corporation
58:31
Speaker 1: as a legitimate debt collection agency, initially buying debts owned
58:34
Speaker 1: to hospitals, banks, and phone companies, and he then served
58:37
Speaker 1: as its CEO, president and chairman, and that company quickly
58:41
Speaker 1: ballooned into one of the largest Ponzi schemes in US history,
58:44
Speaker 1: defrauding investors of approximately four hundred and seventy five million
58:48
Speaker 1: dollars between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen ninety three by
58:51
Speaker 1: using new funds to pay earlier investors and to fuel
58:55
Speaker 1: Stephen's extravagant lifestyle. Purchases that Stephen made at the time
58:59
Speaker 1: using the dirty money included a mansion in Locust Valley,
59:01
Speaker 1: New York, luxury homes in Manhattan and Florida, multiple cars,
59:05
Speaker 1: private planes, and so much more. In February ninety three,
59:09
Speaker 1: amid the Ponzi schemes eventual unraveling, Stephen Hoffenberg even briefly
59:13
Speaker 1: owned The New York Post, but his tenure only lasted
59:16
Speaker 1: until March, ending in chaos with massed layoffs, a staff walkout,
59:20
Speaker 1: and missed publication deadlines. Following the Security and Exchange Commissions
59:24
Speaker 1: civil action against him, Towers Financial filed for bankruptcy that
59:28
Speaker 1: same month, exposing the Ponzi scheme's full scope and leading
59:32
Speaker 1: to his guilty plea in April nineteen ninety five. Stephen
59:35
Speaker 1: was sentenced to twenty years in federal prison in nineteen
59:38
Speaker 1: ninety seven, and was eventually released in October of twenty thirteen.
59:41
Speaker 1: After his release, Steven sought to make amends with his victims,
59:45
Speaker 1: married someone named Maria Santiago, and tried to enjoy his life.
59:48
Speaker 1: Now that's the version of Stephen's life without Epstein. But
59:51
Speaker 1: when you get to his involvement with Epstein, well, that's
59:54
Speaker 1: where things get complicated. Steven's association with Jeffrey Epstein began
59:58
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven, when he he met the then
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Speaker 1: thirty four year old through British defense contractor Douglas Lease,
1:00:04
Speaker 1: who praised Epstein as a genius at selling securities despite
1:00:08
Speaker 1: lacking a moral compass. Impressed, Stephen hired Epstein as a
1:00:11
Speaker 1: paid consultant for Towers Financial from nineteen eighty seven to
1:00:15
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, compensating him with twenty five thousand dollars
1:00:18
Speaker 1: monthly and providing a two million dollar loan to him
1:00:21
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight that Epstein never repaint, allowing them
1:00:24
Speaker 1: to work in close collaboration. Stephen and Epstein traveled frequently
1:00:28
Speaker 1: on his private jet, shared offices in the opulent Villard
1:00:31
Speaker 1: Houses on Madison Avenue, and pursued ambitious but failed takeover
1:00:35
Speaker 1: bids for companies like PanAm and Emery air Freight Corps,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: with Epstein earning over one million dollars in fees during
1:00:42
Speaker 1: this period. Stephen Hoffenberg later claimed in court documents and
1:00:45
Speaker 1: interviews that Epstein himself was the architect of the scam,
1:00:49
Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme, I mean with the Towers Financial Company,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: and he claimed that Epstein had been intimately involved in
1:00:55
Speaker 1: designing the Ponzi schemes mechanics, even though Epstein himself departed
1:00:59
Speaker 1: Towers Financial just before it collapsed in nineteen ninety three
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Speaker 1: and was never charged in connection with the fraud. And
1:01:05
Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting. Epstein helped build the scheme,
1:01:08
Speaker 1: he was the mastermind of this massive financial fraud, then
1:01:12
Speaker 1: he left right before it collapses, and he's never charged
1:01:16
Speaker 1: with the crime, while the guy who didn't even design
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Speaker 1: half of the fraud is put into prison on a
1:01:22
Speaker 1: what twenty year sentence. In an August twenty eighteen lawsuit,
1:01:25
Speaker 1: former Towers investors alleged that the stolen four hundred and
1:01:29
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars had served as seed capital for
1:01:32
Speaker 1: Epstein's subsequent hedge fund, which they valued at fifty billion dollars,
1:01:36
Speaker 1: which obviously suggests a direct financial pipeline from the Ponzi
1:01:40
Speaker 1: scheme to Epstein's empire. Following Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest, Stephen
1:01:45
Speaker 1: Hoffenberg publicly labeled him his uncharged co conspirator and best friend,
1:01:50
Speaker 1: and said he and Epstein had a special relationship, even
1:01:53
Speaker 1: going so far as to claim that Epstein was the
1:01:55
Speaker 1: smartest person he knew. After his own prison release in
1:01:58
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Stephen began reaching out to Epstein's accusers, befriending
1:02:02
Speaker 1: victim Maria Farmer and offering her assistance while insisting that
1:02:05
Speaker 1: Epstein's unprosecuted role in the Ponzi scheme mirrored his unprosecuted
1:02:10
Speaker 1: role in the scheme. Now, this is very interesting. In
1:02:14
Speaker 1: a final account to the National Inquirer right before his death,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Hoffenberg revealed possessing knowledge of incriminating tapes that Epstein
1:02:22
Speaker 1: had collected, where Epstein and Maxwell recorded elites for blackmail,
1:02:26
Speaker 1: and Hoffenberg claimed that the FBI had held on to
1:02:29
Speaker 1: those tapes since twenty nineteen, but had buried them to
1:02:31
Speaker 1: protect powerful figures. On August twenty third, twenty twenty two,
1:02:35
Speaker 1: police in Derby, Connecticut, responded to a welfare check at
1:02:38
Speaker 1: Steven's apartment after a private investigator acting on behalf of
1:02:42
Speaker 1: a woman identifying herself as an Epstein's victim, reported no
1:02:47
Speaker 1: contact from Steve for five days. Upon entering his apartment,
1:02:50
Speaker 1: officers discovered Stephen's seventy seven year old body in an
1:02:54
Speaker 1: advanced state of decomposition on the floor and estimated that
1:02:57
Speaker 1: he had been dead for approximately one week, with the
1:02:59
Speaker 1: last known communication anyone had with him occurring around August sixteenth.
1:03:04
Speaker 1: Due to the body's condition, authorities initially could not positively
1:03:07
Speaker 1: identify Stephen, but eventually confirmed his identity through dental records
1:03:11
Speaker 1: and autopsy performed revealed no evidence of trauma, and investigators
1:03:15
Speaker 1: noted no signs of a struggle, forced entry, or foul
1:03:18
Speaker 1: play at the scene, and suggested that Stephen had simply
1:03:21
Speaker 1: died alone in his modest, one bedroom apartment. The exact
1:03:25
Speaker 1: time of Stephen's death remained undetermined pending toxicology results, but
1:03:29
Speaker 1: officials attributed it to natural causes consistent with Stephen's reported
1:03:33
Speaker 1: poor self care, including irregular eating and health neglect, as
1:03:37
Speaker 1: described by his former friend Gary Base, who hadn't spoken
1:03:40
Speaker 1: to him in months. Stephen for years had lived a
1:03:43
Speaker 1: reclusive life in Derby, Connecticut, far from his former Manhattan haunts,
1:03:47
Speaker 1: and his isolation likely contributed to the delay and discovery.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: Toxicology results released later on confirmed no illicit substances or
1:03:55
Speaker 1: external factors were present in Stephen's body at his time
1:03:58
Speaker 1: of death, and officials closed the offici investigation without further inquiry.
1:04:02
Speaker 1: News of his death broke the same day, and people
1:04:04
Speaker 1: linked it immediately, obviously to Epstein's network. Now, there are
1:04:08
Speaker 1: some very suspicious elements to Stephen Hoffenberg's death. For example,
1:04:12
Speaker 1: the timing. This was just two months after Glene Maxwell
1:04:15
Speaker 1: was convicted in twenty twenty two, a time in which
1:04:18
Speaker 1: Stephen Hoffenberg had publicly declared he was going to assist
1:04:22
Speaker 1: victims and expose more details about Epstein that only he knew. Now, obviously,
1:04:27
Speaker 1: when you look at that, whenever someone says they're going
1:04:29
Speaker 1: to expose something and they're going to expose some details
1:04:31
Speaker 1: that only they know, and then they're found dead, it's
1:04:34
Speaker 1: pretty weird. There's also the fact that his body was
1:04:36
Speaker 1: found lying undiscovered for a full week in a small
1:04:40
Speaker 1: apartment building, and people were wondering how nobody had checked
1:04:43
Speaker 1: in on Steven. I mean, this dude was a pretty
1:04:45
Speaker 1: high profile individual, and no one had called him, no
1:04:48
Speaker 1: one had checked in on him, no one had noticed
1:04:50
Speaker 1: anything was off, that he wasn't responding or anything like
1:04:53
Speaker 1: that for an entire week. And now this is the
1:04:56
Speaker 1: really crazy, the really really weird part. According to the
1:04:59
Speaker 1: National in Acquirer, just before he died, Stephen had made
1:05:03
Speaker 1: a sort of deathbed confession to them and had asked
1:05:05
Speaker 1: them to wait at least three years after his death
1:05:08
Speaker 1: to publish the information he gave them. And so in
1:05:11
Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty five, just about a month ago,
1:05:14
Speaker 1: the Inquirer published posthumously Steven's comments and they're pretty disturbing.
1:05:18
Speaker 1: In his confession, Stephen alleged the existence of the mother
1:05:22
Speaker 1: load of Blacktail tapes filmed by Epstein and Maxwell. Some
1:05:25
Speaker 1: of the recently published article reads as follows. Wherever Epstein
1:05:29
Speaker 1: was entertaining, he and Glane were taping, said Hoffenberg, who
1:05:33
Speaker 1: asked The National Inquirer not to publish what he knew
1:05:35
Speaker 1: about the Cabal until three years after his death, which
1:05:38
Speaker 1: occurred in August twenty twenty two. They were sending video
1:05:41
Speaker 1: footage to the cabal every week, Hoffenberg told the Inquirer, Maxwell,
1:05:45
Speaker 1: who was sentenced to twenty years in federal prison for
1:05:49
Speaker 1: in conspiracy linked to Epstein's to female miners. Remains the
1:05:53
Speaker 1: only person besides her late boss who was charged in
1:05:55
Speaker 1: the case. According to Hoffenberg, the socialite was responsible for
1:05:59
Speaker 1: emailing or personally delivering the secretly recorded honeytrap videos to
1:06:04
Speaker 1: the pair's powerful overlords. He added that exposure of these
1:06:07
Speaker 1: tapes would be the mother load of damning evidence which
1:06:10
Speaker 1: would take down many of the world's most powerful men
1:06:12
Speaker 1: and shatter the secret cabal that Epstein reported to. The
1:06:16
Speaker 1: FBI and the New York City Police Department have had
1:06:18
Speaker 1: the tape since twenty nineteen, Hoffenberg said, And that's just
1:06:21
Speaker 1: a small snippet of the article. So you have this
1:06:24
Speaker 1: guy right before he dies and making these admissions confirming
1:06:27
Speaker 1: the existence of blackmail, which would mean that he had
1:06:30
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge about the blackmail operation. And uh, yeah, he's dead,
1:06:36
Speaker 1: So he can never share how he got that information.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: He can never share details of that information. He can
1:06:41
Speaker 1: never go on the record at a trial or during
1:06:44
Speaker 1: an inquiry or a committee or a grand jury and
1:06:46
Speaker 1: present evidence that only he knew or he saw he
1:06:50
Speaker 1: heard because he's dead, which is incredibly convenient. I have
1:06:53
Speaker 1: to say that, and it's just bizarre. I mean, Hoffenberg
1:06:57
Speaker 1: just died. Apparently, according to them, something happened to him
1:07:00
Speaker 1: in his apartment. He keeled over. I couldn't find any
1:07:02
Speaker 1: actual cause of death for Stephen Hoffenberg, So it's just
1:07:06
Speaker 1: it's really bizarre. Essentially, his dead body is found in
1:07:08
Speaker 1: his apartment, and he had been dead for about a week,
1:07:11
Speaker 1: at least a week, and he had like rotted, his
1:07:14
Speaker 1: body had rotted to the point where nobody could recognize
1:07:17
Speaker 1: him visually. And he's talking about all this stuff, and
1:07:21
Speaker 1: he's publicly making these statements about Epstein and working with victims,
1:07:24
Speaker 1: and he gives this interview right before he dies about
1:07:26
Speaker 1: the blackmail operation and the information that he knew and
1:07:29
Speaker 1: that he had gathered and he had seen, and then
1:07:31
Speaker 1: he ends up dead for a week, rotting in his
1:07:33
Speaker 1: apartment with no discernible or public cause of death, and
1:07:37
Speaker 1: we're just supposed to say that that's normal. Death Number nine.
1:07:41
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr, the lawyer who bargained with devils. Kenneth Winston
1:07:45
Speaker 1: Starr was born on July twenty first, nineteen forty six,
1:07:48
Speaker 1: in Texas to a middle class family. Kenneth had a
1:07:51
Speaker 1: pretty impressive career in the law area. He worked for
1:07:54
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice from nineteen seventy five to nineteen
1:07:57
Speaker 1: seventy seven. He was a counselor to A T. Kearney
1:08:00
Speaker 1: General William French Smith. He had lots of connections to
1:08:04
Speaker 1: obviously the high profile political elite. He was even appointed
1:08:07
Speaker 1: US Solicitor General by President George H. W. Bush in
1:08:11
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine and argued over twenty five cases before
1:08:14
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, defending key administration policies with rhetorical precision. Now,
1:08:19
Speaker 1: Starr left the government in nineteen ninety three and entered
1:08:22
Speaker 1: private practice at a place called Kirkland and Ellis. But
1:08:25
Speaker 1: his career peaked as independent counsel investigating the Whitewater scandal
1:08:29
Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety four, which I've talked about in the
1:08:32
Speaker 1: Clinton List video, expanding into the Monica Lewinsky affair. And
1:08:36
Speaker 1: he even authored the nineteen ninety eight Star Report that
1:08:38
Speaker 1: led to President Bill Clinton's impeachment. And so you got
1:08:42
Speaker 1: a guy here that's tangled up with the Clintons, tangled
1:08:45
Speaker 1: up with the bureaucracy, tangled up with the presidency in
1:08:48
Speaker 1: the White House. But he's also deeply tangled with Epstein.
1:08:51
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr's association with Epstein emerged in two thousand and seven,
1:08:55
Speaker 1: when the lawyer was hired to represent Jeffrey Epstein amidst
1:08:58
Speaker 1: the mounting federal and investigation into what he had done
1:09:01
Speaker 1: to teenage girls in Palm Beach, Florida. As Epstein's defense lawyer,
1:09:05
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr orchestrated a scorched earth strategy detailed in Julie K.
1:09:10
Speaker 1: Brown's twenty twenty one book Perversion of Justice, which involved
1:09:13
Speaker 1: aggressive tactics taken against victims, witnesses, and even Palm Beach
1:09:17
Speaker 1: police detective Joe Riccari, who we talked about already, whom
1:09:21
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr sought to discredit through subpoenas and character attacks.
1:09:24
Speaker 1: He also collaborated closely with US Attorney Alexander Acosta and
1:09:28
Speaker 1: Epstein's other lawyers, including Alan Dershowitz and Roy Black, to
1:09:32
Speaker 1: negotiate that non prosecution agreement that we've talked about endlessly
1:09:36
Speaker 1: in videos before this. So Kenneth Starr was basically pressuring
1:09:40
Speaker 1: officials to downgrade or drop charges. He was aggressively defending
1:09:45
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. He was harassing victims, character assassinating people. This
1:09:49
Speaker 1: dude was not a good dude. He was literally defending
1:09:52
Speaker 1: the devil. And in twenty nineteen, after Epstein was rearrested,
1:09:56
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr defended his role in interviews with the media,
1:09:59
Speaker 1: framing that plea deal as a pragmatic resolution given the
1:10:02
Speaker 1: evidence they had at the time, though victim's advocates roasted
1:10:05
Speaker 1: him for prioritizing elite protection over accountability. Now, Kenneth Starr
1:10:10
Speaker 1: has been absolutely intertwined with Epstein's legal affairs, or he
1:10:14
Speaker 1: had been for years. He was involved in Gouffrey Versus Maxwell.
1:10:18
Speaker 1: He was involved in Epstein's legal case in Florida. He
1:10:22
Speaker 1: was super tied in. But he died on September thirteenth,
1:10:25
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, after succumbing to complications from an elective
1:10:29
Speaker 1: surgery at Baylor Saint Luke's Medical Center in Houston, Texas.
1:10:33
Speaker 1: His family issued a statement confirming the cause, noting that
1:10:36
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr had undergone the procedure amid an undisclosed chronic illness.
1:10:40
Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr had been living here in Houston, where I live,
1:10:43
Speaker 1: for years, and his death was incredibly bizarre. No autopsy
1:10:47
Speaker 1: was ever mentioned in any reports, and the death certificate
1:10:50
Speaker 1: attributed his death to surgical aftermath. After Kenneth died, there
1:10:54
Speaker 1: were tons of tributes that came in, including tributes from
1:10:57
Speaker 1: former President George W. Bush, which praised Kenneth Starr's unwavering
1:11:01
Speaker 1: commitment to the rule of law. Now, while the official
1:11:04
Speaker 1: narrative attributes his death to routine surgical complications, several elements
1:11:09
Speaker 1: have aligned with other conspiracies surrounding the Epstein list. For example,
1:11:13
Speaker 1: some people have claimed that the Clintons orchestrated his death
1:11:16
Speaker 1: as revenge for Clinton's impeachment. Others have said that maybe
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Kenneth knew too much and this Remember he died in
1:11:23
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two amidst the ongoing Glaine Maxwell unfolding criminal
1:11:28
Speaker 1: case against her, so he once again would have possessed
1:11:31
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge surrounding Epstein and he died, And at the time,
1:11:35
Speaker 1: people all over were talking about Kenneth Starr's involvement with
1:11:39
Speaker 1: Epstein in securing that non prosecution agreement, in defending the Devil,
1:11:43
Speaker 1: all the secrets that he probably knew from Epstein, the
1:11:47
Speaker 1: cold hard facts of the case that he was privy to.
1:11:49
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy could have even been involved in
1:11:51
Speaker 1: the blackmail operation from the beginning, really because he had
1:11:55
Speaker 1: such a powerful role in the United States government. I mean,
1:11:57
Speaker 1: it's just weird. A surgical complication at the time of
1:12:01
Speaker 1: Glene Maxwell's trial and sentencing force. Once again, this is
1:12:05
Speaker 1: another guy who died who can no longer talk about
1:12:09
Speaker 1: what he knows. Not saying that I believe he ever
1:12:11
Speaker 1: would have talked, but you know, people obviously think that
1:12:15
Speaker 1: it's pretty strange. Death number ten. Roy Black, the defender
1:12:19
Speaker 1: who played the Devil's Game now. Roy Black was another
1:12:23
Speaker 1: attorney who defended Jeffrey Epstein. Roy Black was very close
1:12:27
Speaker 1: with Epstein, and Roy Black was a pretty infamous figure.
1:12:30
Speaker 1: He was known as the goat amongst Miami defense attorneys
1:12:33
Speaker 1: for his courtroom charisma and strategic brilliance. Before his death,
1:12:37
Speaker 1: he had amassed a roster of celebrity and controversial clients,
1:12:40
Speaker 1: including pop star Justin Bieber and even conservative radio host
1:12:44
Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. He had represented people in high profile trials.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: He was really familiar with the ins and outs of
1:12:51
Speaker 1: the legal system. But he really became associated with Epstein
1:12:54
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven when he joined alongside Kenneth
1:12:57
Speaker 1: Starr Epstein's legal representation patient team trying to defend him
1:13:02
Speaker 1: against the charges of the minors in Florida. Like we've
1:13:06
Speaker 1: talked about that a lot. All you really need to
1:13:09
Speaker 1: know is that Roy Black was just another lawyer, essentially
1:13:12
Speaker 1: a celebrity lawyer, a really famous lawyer who had worked
1:13:14
Speaker 1: with a lot of celebrities and on a lot of
1:13:16
Speaker 1: high profile cases over the years. But this is another
1:13:20
Speaker 1: guy that would have been really, really knowledgeable, who would
1:13:23
Speaker 1: have known a lot about Epstein, who would have known
1:13:27
Speaker 1: the ins and outs, especially if Epstein was really honest,
1:13:29
Speaker 1: or even ken Starr was honest, or somebody was honest,
1:13:32
Speaker 1: would have known a lot about all this stuff. But
1:13:34
Speaker 1: just this year, on July twenty first, twenty twenty five,
1:13:37
Speaker 1: Roy Black died peacefully, allegedly at his home in Coral Gables, Florida,
1:13:42
Speaker 1: after once again a prolonged battle with an undisclosed terminal illness.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: Now we've seen lots of illnesses here. I think this
1:13:49
Speaker 1: death is particularly interesting because of the fact that in
1:13:53
Speaker 1: July that memo from the DOJ and FBI had recently
1:13:57
Speaker 1: been released, and there was tons of reneweds scrutiny about
1:14:01
Speaker 1: Epstein in the media, and so I don't know, maybe
1:14:03
Speaker 1: people started freaking out, people behind the scenes, pulling the strings, thinking,
1:14:07
Speaker 1: you know, this guy heard something during the trial. This
1:14:10
Speaker 1: guy knew some things during the trial, and we need
1:14:12
Speaker 1: to help expedite his departure from Earth before there's any
1:14:16
Speaker 1: sort of grand jury or committee or investigation done by
1:14:20
Speaker 1: the government into Epstein, because obviously there were a lot
1:14:24
Speaker 1: of people talking about this, and a lot of people
1:14:26
Speaker 1: were pissed off and wanted an honest investigation, and people
1:14:30
Speaker 1: obviously have added Roy Black to the trail of death
1:14:34
Speaker 1: associated with Epstein, even though once again it's a non
1:14:37
Speaker 1: suspicious death technically, this is a lawyer who represented Epstein
1:14:41
Speaker 1: on his biggest case, the non prosecution agreement case. There's
1:14:44
Speaker 1: also the fact that he died from an undisclosed condition,
1:14:48
Speaker 1: like some others on this list, a condition that was
1:14:50
Speaker 1: described vaguely as serious or terminal. It's just really bizarre.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: It's really really bizarre stuff as you just keep going
1:14:57
Speaker 1: down this list. So I'm realizing right now that I'm
1:15:00
Speaker 1: I'm talking for a really long time, and this episode
1:15:02
Speaker 1: is really long. I didn't realize how long this was
1:15:04
Speaker 1: when I wrote it, So I'm kind of gonna just
1:15:06
Speaker 1: skim through the rest of the body count list associated
1:15:09
Speaker 1: with Epstein, focus on a few more, but just know
1:15:12
Speaker 1: that this is still just the tip of the Iceberg.
1:15:14
Speaker 1: Death Number eleven Marvin Minsky, the genius Tainted by Temptation,
1:15:18
Speaker 1: who was an MITAI pioneer whose work was partly funded
1:15:22
Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Epstein, A guy who was accused by Virginia Goufrey.
1:15:26
Speaker 1: That happened according to Virginia in two thousand and one.
1:15:29
Speaker 1: On January twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, at age eighty eight,
1:15:32
Speaker 1: Marvin Minsky died of a cerebral hemorrhage. Now, obviously that's
1:15:36
Speaker 1: a natural death, but people count him as a part
1:15:38
Speaker 1: of this theory because of what he would have known.
1:15:40
Speaker 1: He was obviously a part of the network, and he died,
1:15:42
Speaker 1: you know, shortly before all of this really started coming
1:15:46
Speaker 1: to light with Epstein's arrest in twenty nineteen. Then there
1:15:48
Speaker 1: was Ronald Eppinger, that Miami, who Virginia Goufrey, who she
1:15:54
Speaker 1: lived with before she met Jeffrey Epstein. He was convicted
1:15:57
Speaker 1: of his crimes in two thousand and one, but in
1:15:59
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. It's November of two thousand and
1:16:01
Speaker 1: six at age seventy, right as Epstein's stuff was heating
1:16:05
Speaker 1: up in Florida. Ronald Eppinger, who obviously Virginia Goufrey lived
1:16:09
Speaker 1: with who would have known a lot having been based
1:16:12
Speaker 1: in Florida for a very long time. He was found
1:16:14
Speaker 1: dead in a New York hotel room. His death was
1:16:16
Speaker 1: once again ruled natural and the details remained pretty sparse. However,
1:16:20
Speaker 1: he's been tied to all of the Epstein death lists
1:16:23
Speaker 1: because of the time of his death November two thousand
1:16:25
Speaker 1: and six, as the Epstein stuff was heating up in Florida,
1:16:28
Speaker 1: and his direct ties to the case and the main accuser.
1:16:32
Speaker 1: There's also reporter John Connolly who was born November twenty fourth,
1:16:36
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, in New York City. John Connolly was
1:16:39
Speaker 1: an author, but he also joined the New York Police
1:16:41
Speaker 1: Department in nineteen sixty eight as a patrolman and rose
1:16:44
Speaker 1: through the ranks to become a detective in the elite
1:16:46
Speaker 1: Organized Crime Control Bureau. By the mid nineteen seventies, John
1:16:50
Speaker 1: Connolly was a fearless man, but eventually he transitioned to
1:16:54
Speaker 1: journalism and debuted as an investigative reporter for New York
1:16:58
Speaker 1: magazine in the late nineteen eighties, quickly expanding to outlets
1:17:01
Speaker 1: like GQ and Vanity Fair, where recovered things like Wall
1:17:04
Speaker 1: Street fraud, organized crime, and government corruption. However, in two
1:17:08
Speaker 1: thousand and five, Vanity Fair assigned John Connolly to probe
1:17:12
Speaker 1: the life of Jeffrey Epstein following the appearance of those
1:17:15
Speaker 1: initial police reports detailing Epstein's underage, which led John Connolly
1:17:20
Speaker 1: to interview three teenage victims who described being lured to
1:17:23
Speaker 1: Epstein's mansion for massages that escalated into exploitation. Despite compiling
1:17:28
Speaker 1: compelling evidence, including victim testimonies and Epstein's pattern of payments,
1:17:33
Speaker 1: and John Connolly's article was shut down after pressure from
1:17:37
Speaker 1: Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who threatened a libel suit against
1:17:41
Speaker 1: the publication that was set to publish the article, a
1:17:44
Speaker 1: decision that John Connolly later decried as being editorial cowardice
1:17:48
Speaker 1: in interviews. However, later on, John Connolly revisited the story
1:17:52
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen by co authoring the best selling book
1:17:55
Speaker 1: Filthy Rich with James Patterson, which drew on his original
1:17:59
Speaker 1: notes and addition sources to detail Epstein's which became the
1:18:03
Speaker 1: foundational text for documentaries like Netflix's Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich. However,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: John Connolly, at seventy eight years old, died at his
1:18:12
Speaker 1: home in New York City following a brief but unspecified
1:18:15
Speaker 1: illness that had confined him to bed in his final days,
1:18:18
Speaker 1: and he died on January fifteenth, twenty twenty two. Once again,
1:18:22
Speaker 1: as everything with Glene Maxwell and her trial was really
1:18:26
Speaker 1: really heating up and people were talking about Epstein non stop. Now,
1:18:30
Speaker 1: friends and family said that John had been in declining
1:18:32
Speaker 1: health for weeks, with people noting he had a raspy
1:18:35
Speaker 1: voice and was fatigued during holiday calls, but they said
1:18:38
Speaker 1: he remained mentally sharp and even joked about unfinished mafia
1:18:42
Speaker 1: exposees until the end. No autopsy was ever publicly discussed,
1:18:46
Speaker 1: and the New York City Medical Examiner's Office classified John's
1:18:49
Speaker 1: death as natural without any further investigation. Obviously, when somebody
1:18:54
Speaker 1: who has extensively covered Epstein for years and was on
1:18:58
Speaker 1: the case and then had his articles shut down years
1:19:01
Speaker 1: before all of this really came forward, and then he
1:19:03
Speaker 1: dies in the midst of Glene Maxwell's stuff, which is
1:19:06
Speaker 1: everywhere in the media, people are going to draw connections here,
1:19:09
Speaker 1: and once again we see another brief illness which is
1:19:13
Speaker 1: never specified. Was it cancer, was it some sort of infection,
1:19:16
Speaker 1: was it something else? Nobody knows. So many of these
1:19:19
Speaker 1: people die in this story and in this chain of
1:19:22
Speaker 1: this trail of bodies from these quick, unspecified illnesses, but
1:19:26
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what those illnesses are, which I
1:19:29
Speaker 1: think also has fueled the speculation that these people might
1:19:32
Speaker 1: have been killed or silenced. There's also death number fourteen.
1:19:36
Speaker 1: Wendy Lee, the biographer who Peaked Too Close. Wendy Lee
1:19:40
Speaker 1: was born in nineteen fifty and rose to prominence as
1:19:43
Speaker 1: a British American investigative journalist and celebrity biographer. Wendy in
1:19:47
Speaker 1: her lifetime penned over a dozen New York Times bestsellers
1:19:50
Speaker 1: that dissected the lives of icons with a blend of
1:19:53
Speaker 1: glamour and grit. Her breakthrough book came with The Day
1:19:56
Speaker 1: Kennedy Died in nineteen ninety three, followed by Prince Arming
1:20:00
Speaker 1: The John F. Kennedy Junior Story in nineteen ninety four.
1:20:03
Speaker 1: So Wendy Lee was somebody who chronicled the lives of
1:20:07
Speaker 1: celebrities and the elite. She wrote a biography for Arnold Schwarzenegger,
1:20:11
Speaker 1: which she co authored with Arnold Schwarzenegger. She wrote one
1:20:14
Speaker 1: for David Bowie Patrick Swayzee, but she also wrote these
1:20:18
Speaker 1: expose a pieces and had a keen interest and passion
1:20:22
Speaker 1: for investigative journalism, and that's how she eventually came in
1:20:26
Speaker 1: contact with the Epstein affair. You see, Wendy had been
1:20:29
Speaker 1: a longtime acquaintance of the Maxwell family. Wendy even claimed
1:20:33
Speaker 1: that she had a brief romantic affair with Robert Maxwell,
1:20:36
Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell's father, in the nineteen eighties, and later recalled
1:20:39
Speaker 1: Glaane's quote desperation to please end quote her domineering father
1:20:43
Speaker 1: in interviews. Wendy Lee's name surfaced in unsealed Epstein court
1:20:47
Speaker 1: documents from Virginia Goufras twenty fifteen lawsuit against Glaine Maxwell,
1:20:51
Speaker 1: when she was listed as Wendy Lee, author and Daily
1:20:54
Speaker 1: Mail reporter, potentially as a journalistic contact or peripheral figure
1:20:58
Speaker 1: in Maxwell's social lif orbit who may have known something
1:21:01
Speaker 1: that could have been useful to the case. So she's
1:21:03
Speaker 1: a friend of the Maxwell family. She's listed in a
1:21:06
Speaker 1: lawsuit by Virginia Gouffrey as somebody who probably knows something
1:21:12
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming she did know something. I've seen people
1:21:14
Speaker 1: stay online that she was possibly working on a biography
1:21:17
Speaker 1: of Epstein or Glenn Maxwell or Robert Maxwell at the
1:21:20
Speaker 1: time of her death, but I couldn't find any confirmation
1:21:22
Speaker 1: of that. But on the morning of May twenty ninth,
1:21:25
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Wendy Lee's body was discovered on the pavement
1:21:29
Speaker 1: below her fourth floor balcony at her Chelsea apartment overlooking
1:21:32
Speaker 1: the River Thame in London, after she had approximately forty
1:21:36
Speaker 1: feet to her death. At sixty five years old, Wendy
1:21:39
Speaker 1: had been living in the same building as her mother, Marian,
1:21:42
Speaker 1: whose death in December twenty fifteen at age eighty eight
1:21:45
Speaker 1: had plunged her into a profound grief. Just two weeks
1:21:48
Speaker 1: before she was found dead, Wendy had listed her sexy,
1:21:51
Speaker 1: stylish two bedroom flat that's a quote from her at
1:21:53
Speaker 1: one point two five million pounds, telling people online that
1:21:57
Speaker 1: she wanted a fresh start amidst emotional turmoil. Though interestingly,
1:22:01
Speaker 1: her friends and family noted that before she was found dead,
1:22:04
Speaker 1: she had been upbeat. She had a cheerful, happy demeanor
1:22:07
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't imagine that she would from balcony
1:22:11
Speaker 1: just shortly after talking to them. However, on May twenty seventh,
1:22:14
Speaker 1: she tweeted a link to an article about depression, quoting
1:22:17
Speaker 1: I woke crying, and I went to sleep crying. It
1:22:19
Speaker 1: didn't occur to me that I was depressed, which obviously
1:22:22
Speaker 1: signaled her internal battle. However, the police initially launched an
1:22:26
Speaker 1: investigation but deemed this non suspicious, with reports varying between
1:22:31
Speaker 1: an accidental slip and a deliberate jump. It is strange, though,
1:22:34
Speaker 1: because lots of people in her life came forward and
1:22:37
Speaker 1: said that she was extremely optimistic and cheerful in the
1:22:40
Speaker 1: days directly before she was found dead. And keep in mind,
1:22:44
Speaker 1: Wendy was found dead after Virginia Goufrey named her in
1:22:48
Speaker 1: a legal filing against Glayne Maxwell, which proved to link
1:22:52
Speaker 1: Wendy to the Maxwell family. She reportedly was romantically involved
1:22:57
Speaker 1: with Glane Maxwell's father. She was a biographer who was
1:23:00
Speaker 1: really good at deep diving into the lives of the
1:23:02
Speaker 1: rich and famous. And then all of a sudden, after
1:23:05
Speaker 1: these allegations are made and she's linked to the Epstein case,
1:23:08
Speaker 1: she's found dead. And that's before Epstein's eventually arrested in
1:23:12
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and this whole thing blows up. There's also
1:23:16
Speaker 1: death number fifteen, the death of Stephen Bing, The Producer
1:23:19
Speaker 1: who Talked too Much. Stephen Bing was an infamous Hollywood
1:23:22
Speaker 1: film producer who debuted with the nineteen ninety romantic comedy
1:23:26
Speaker 1: Every Breath, which he wrote and produced under his own
1:23:29
Speaker 1: Shangri Law Entertainment banner. Stephen Bing's production credits included high
1:23:33
Speaker 1: profile flops and hits like the two thousand Sylvester Stallone
1:23:37
Speaker 1: remake Get Carter, the two thousand and three Jerry Bruckheimer
1:23:40
Speaker 1: comedy Kangaroo Jack, in the two thousand and four animated
1:23:43
Speaker 1: blockbuster The Polar Express. Bing was a notorious playboy and
1:23:47
Speaker 1: father to son Damien Hurley in two thousand and two
1:23:50
Speaker 1: with British actress Elizabeth Hurley after a fleeting romance, though
1:23:54
Speaker 1: he initially denied paternity and later became estranged from his son,
1:23:58
Speaker 1: refusing a DNA test until ordered, and eventually leaving Damien
1:24:02
Speaker 1: just one million dollars in his will despite the child's
1:24:05
Speaker 1: ten million dollar claim. Now this guy Bing. His philanthropy
1:24:09
Speaker 1: was extravagant and included a forty million dollar donation to
1:24:12
Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation in two thousand and eight. Though most
1:24:15
Speaker 1: of his fortune was squandered on gambling, women and bad investments,
1:24:20
Speaker 1: and had dwindled to near insolvency by twenty fifteen, which
1:24:23
Speaker 1: had forced him to sell assets like his bel Air estate. Now, Bing,
1:24:27
Speaker 1: this Hollywood mogul was associated with Jeffrey Epstein back in
1:24:30
Speaker 1: the two thousands, when, being a mutual friend of Epstein's
1:24:34
Speaker 1: through Hollywood and political circles, flew on the Lolita Express,
1:24:37
Speaker 1: Epstein's private jet, at least four times between nineteen ninety
1:24:41
Speaker 1: five and two thousand and five, as documented in flight
1:24:43
Speaker 1: logs unsealed in twenty nineteen, often en route to Epstein's
1:24:47
Speaker 1: Palm Beach mansion or Little Saint James Epstein Island. Okay,
1:24:51
Speaker 1: I just realized my camrad just died, but we're just
1:24:53
Speaker 1: gonna press on and finish this out. I'm sorry. I
1:24:56
Speaker 1: literally went through two batteries recording this, and I'm completely
1:24:59
Speaker 1: out of battery. Didn't realize how long this is going
1:25:01
Speaker 1: to be now. Epstein reportedly introduced Bing to influential figures,
1:25:05
Speaker 1: and Bing himself allegedly helped to suppress a two thousand
1:25:09
Speaker 1: and three Vanity Fair expose on Epstein's by pressuring editor
1:25:13
Speaker 1: Graydon Carter to not release the article about Epstein. In
1:25:17
Speaker 1: the years before his death, Bing's late girlfriend, Yegen Kim,
1:25:20
Speaker 1: who's twenty nineteen he obsessively mourned urged him through her
1:25:25
Speaker 1: aunt to expose Epstein's crimes, but Bing chose to remain silent,
1:25:29
Speaker 1: reportedly fearing repercussions from Epstein's network. This reticence, combined with
1:25:33
Speaker 1: his flights on the Llita Express and his social ties
1:25:36
Speaker 1: to Epstein, positioned Bing as a peripheral but knowing associate
1:25:40
Speaker 1: in Epstein's web, though he was never directly accused of
1:25:43
Speaker 1: any However, On June twenty second, twenty ten, Steve Bing
1:25:48
Speaker 1: twenty seventh floor balcony of his luxury Century City high
1:25:51
Speaker 1: rise apartment in Los Angeles, California, approximately two hundred and
1:25:56
Speaker 1: seventy feet to his death on the street below. The
1:25:58
Speaker 1: Los Angeles County Medically Examiner's Office ruled the manner of
1:26:01
Speaker 1: death as a self with the cause listed as multiple
1:26:05
Speaker 1: blunt force trauma from the impact, and no note was
1:26:07
Speaker 1: found at the scene. The witnesses reported hearing a thud
1:26:10
Speaker 1: around one pm local time. Stephen had been spiraling emotionally
1:26:14
Speaker 1: for over a year, exacerbated by the January twenty nineteen
1:26:18
Speaker 1: of his girlfriend, Yegen Kim, a twenty eight year old
1:26:21
Speaker 1: aspiring actress, found in a bathtub at his home, which
1:26:24
Speaker 1: he blamed on himself and obsessively investigated as being potentially
1:26:28
Speaker 1: foul play. In October twenty nineteen, ten months before his death,
1:26:32
Speaker 1: being confided in close friend and producer Brian Grazer that
1:26:35
Speaker 1: he wanted to himself and even asked Brian Grazer to
1:26:39
Speaker 1: help him do it. Now, although Stephen Bing's self deletion
1:26:42
Speaker 1: was unequivocally tied to cascading personal devastations, his death has
1:26:46
Speaker 1: been retroactively weaven into Jeffrey Epstein's death list, with theorists
1:26:51
Speaker 1: positing that he may have been murdered to prevent revelations
1:26:54
Speaker 1: about the financier's Hollywood entanglements. You see, Stephen Bings's death
1:26:58
Speaker 1: occurred less than a year after epstein August twenty nineteen
1:27:01
Speaker 1: jailhouse death, and his fall from the twenty seventh floor
1:27:04
Speaker 1: evoked eerie parallels. You see, you have this guy who
1:27:06
Speaker 1: donated millions to the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation, the
1:27:10
Speaker 1: Clinton's obviously being directly tied so deeply into Epstein. This
1:27:14
Speaker 1: guy reported the work to suppress reporting about Epstein. In
1:27:18
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, he was documented to a flown
1:27:21
Speaker 1: on the Lolita Express. People had begged him to expose
1:27:25
Speaker 1: what he knew about Epstein, but he refused to do it,
1:27:27
Speaker 1: saying he was afraid of what might happen. And it
1:27:30
Speaker 1: begs the question did somebody get to him before he
1:27:32
Speaker 1: could expose that information. I don't really know, but it
1:27:35
Speaker 1: is really really suspicious. There have been so many people.
1:27:38
Speaker 1: There's even a model I can't remember her name. There
1:27:40
Speaker 1: was a model tied to Epstein who suffered a very
1:27:43
Speaker 1: similar fate. Yeah, she also was tied to Epstein, ruled
1:27:49
Speaker 1: in non suspicious death. There's also Mark Middleton, the Clinton
1:27:53
Speaker 1: aide who opened the wrong door. Now. Mark Middleton was
1:27:56
Speaker 1: a person who was powerful in the Clinton administration. He
1:27:59
Speaker 1: joined in nineteen ninety three as a special assistant in
1:28:02
Speaker 1: the White House and rose to the role of Special Advisor,
1:28:05
Speaker 1: where he facilitated high level meetings and access for donors
1:28:08
Speaker 1: and influencers. His association with Epstein began in the nineties,
1:28:12
Speaker 1: when Middleton, leveraging his position, authorized at least seven of
1:28:15
Speaker 1: Epstein's seventeen documented White House visits between nineteen ninety three
1:28:19
Speaker 1: and nineteen ninety five, and Mark Middleton himself often signed
1:28:23
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein into the White House personally for his meetings
1:28:26
Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton and other officials. Flat logs revealed that
1:28:29
Speaker 1: Mark Middleton had traveled on Epstein's private jet at least once,
1:28:33
Speaker 1: which further intertwined their professional and social circles amidst Epstein's
1:28:37
Speaker 1: emerging reputation as a donor to democratic causes. After leaving
1:28:40
Speaker 1: the White House in ninety five, Middleton founded at a
1:28:43
Speaker 1: Consulting a lobbying firm that represented foreign entities including the
1:28:48
Speaker 1: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Kazakhstani interests, amassing wealth through
1:28:52
Speaker 1: international deals while maintaining ties to Clinton world alumni. However,
1:28:56
Speaker 1: on May seventh, twenty twenty two, fifty nine year old
1:28:59
Speaker 1: Mark Middleton was discovered deceased at the Heifer Ranch, a
1:29:03
Speaker 1: nonprofit cattle farm in Perryville, Arkansas, approximately fifty miles from
1:29:08
Speaker 1: his Little Rock, Arkansas home, by a property employee. Around midday.
1:29:12
Speaker 1: Mark Middleton was found by an extension cord in an
1:29:17
Speaker 1: apparent with a shotgun wound to his chest from a
1:29:21
Speaker 1: twelve gage, firearm discovered nearby on the ground, and no
1:29:25
Speaker 1: signs of struggle or third party involvement evident at the scene.
1:29:28
Speaker 1: The Perry County Sheriff's Office responded immediately and secured the
1:29:32
Speaker 1: remote wooded area where Middleton had no prior connection to
1:29:35
Speaker 1: the ranch, and the Arkansas State Crime Lab conducted an
1:29:37
Speaker 1: autopsy that allegedly confirmed the cause of death as a
1:29:41
Speaker 1: self deletion by combining and shotgun blast. He also had
1:29:45
Speaker 1: no illicit substances or alcohol in his system at his
1:29:48
Speaker 1: time of death. And I mean, this is pretty bizarre.
1:29:51
Speaker 1: So this guy is closely intertwined with Epstein, signed him
1:29:55
Speaker 1: into the White House to meet the Clintons, flew on
1:29:57
Speaker 1: the Lolita Express, was a good friend of Epstein's, obviously
1:30:01
Speaker 1: very close with the Clintons. And then he ends up
1:30:04
Speaker 1: from a tree after from the chest on a farm
1:30:07
Speaker 1: that he has no connection to, completely randomly at the
1:30:11
Speaker 1: height of the Gleane Maxwell hysteria amidst her trial and sentencing,
1:30:16
Speaker 1: when everybody is asking questions about Epstein and the Epstein scandal,
1:30:20
Speaker 1: could at that point really go in any direction and
1:30:23
Speaker 1: start calling any witnesses they want. Obviously there is I
1:30:28
Speaker 1: don't even really need to say much about this and
1:30:30
Speaker 1: how suspicious it is. I mean, Mark Middleton was in
1:30:32
Speaker 1: Epstein's black book. There were people talking publicly in the
1:30:36
Speaker 1: news at the time of the Clinton Epstein ties. They
1:30:38
Speaker 1: were talking about Mark Middleton's role in Jeffrey Epstein's White
1:30:42
Speaker 1: House access and Mark Middleton's family quickly petitioned the government
1:30:46
Speaker 1: to seal all visual evidence related to their loved one's death,
1:30:50
Speaker 1: which just a month later was granted without opposition. And
1:30:53
Speaker 1: obviously people have said that that is was that was
1:30:57
Speaker 1: like a cover up in action. There's also the death
1:31:00
Speaker 1: of Efren stone Reies, Epstein's cellmate. Efrin was Epstein's Metropolitan
1:31:05
Speaker 1: Correctional Center cellmate in twenty nineteen after his arrest, and
1:31:08
Speaker 1: he was transferred out of his cell one day before
1:31:11
Speaker 1: Epstein died on November twenty seventh, twenty twenty, at age
1:31:14
Speaker 1: fifty one. He was found dead at his mother's home
1:31:17
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, New York, and he allegedly died from
1:31:19
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen complications. Obviously this was suspicious. Then there was
1:31:23
Speaker 1: the death of Bill Richardson, the governor. Bill Richardson is
1:31:26
Speaker 1: the former New Mexico governor and UN ambassador who was
1:31:29
Speaker 1: accused by Virginia Gouffrey of at Zoro Ranch in New Mexico.
1:31:33
Speaker 1: On September one, twenty twenty three, aged seventy five, he
1:31:37
Speaker 1: died of rapid bone cancer, once again at home. Now
1:31:40
Speaker 1: this was officially unnatural death, but he died just before
1:31:43
Speaker 1: documents were unsealed, and obviously this raised a lot of questions.
1:31:47
Speaker 1: Then there was a death of Peter Smith, the Operative.
1:31:49
Speaker 1: Peter Smith was a Republican donor who hunted down Clinton's emails,
1:31:53
Speaker 1: and on May fourteenth, twenty seventeen, at age eighty one,
1:31:56
Speaker 1: he was found in a Minnesota hotel room with a
1:31:59
Speaker 1: go over his head and a helium tank next to him.
1:32:01
Speaker 1: He left a note by himself and this is just
1:32:03
Speaker 1: crazy that said no foul play, and this was ruled
1:32:07
Speaker 1: by authorities as a self deletion. Peter Smith, at the
1:32:09
Speaker 1: time was found with a fake ID, and the timing
1:32:12
Speaker 1: of his death amidst a rapidly unfolding probe into Russian
1:32:16
Speaker 1: connections to the White House, raised suspicion. Then there's death
1:32:19
Speaker 1: of James McDougall. James McDougall was Bill and Hillary Clinton's
1:32:23
Speaker 1: Whitewater partner. That's the whole thing we talk about in
1:32:26
Speaker 1: the Clinton BodyCount episode. Who was jailed eventually in Texas.
1:32:29
Speaker 1: On March eighth, nineteen ninety eight, at age fifty seven,
1:32:32
Speaker 1: James collapsed in solitary confinement after refusing a drug test.
1:32:36
Speaker 1: He died of a heart attack ten days before he
1:32:38
Speaker 1: was set to be paroled, while he was at the
1:32:40
Speaker 1: time cooperating with future Epstein attorney Kenneth Starr. Obviously, people
1:32:45
Speaker 1: claim that he knew too much and the heart attack
1:32:48
Speaker 1: was facilitated. There's also Vince Foster, the Council. Vince Foster
1:32:52
Speaker 1: was a Clinton friend and a deputy White House Council
1:32:55
Speaker 1: and on July twentieth, nineteen ninety three, at age forty eight,
1:32:58
Speaker 1: he was found dead in Fort Martin Park with a
1:33:01
Speaker 1: revolver and his death was ruled a self deletion. Even
1:33:04
Speaker 1: though I could do a whole episode about Vince Foster's
1:33:06
Speaker 1: death and the fact that he was not shot like
1:33:09
Speaker 1: they claimed he was, and all these suspicious things around him. Obviously,
1:33:13
Speaker 1: Vince Foster was tied to the Clintons, and obviously the Clintons,
1:33:17
Speaker 1: especially at that time in the early to mid nineties,
1:33:20
Speaker 1: was tied directly into Epstein, so people have claimed that
1:33:23
Speaker 1: he was silenced before he could ever even start talking
1:33:26
Speaker 1: in the first place. Maybe I'll do a whole episode
1:33:28
Speaker 1: about Vince Foster later. There's so many weird connections with
1:33:31
Speaker 1: that one, and there are so many deaths here. I
1:33:34
Speaker 1: still have more I want to talk about, but this
1:33:35
Speaker 1: episode is way too long. Finally, there's Thomas Bowers, who
1:33:39
Speaker 1: died at fifty five years old. He was ahead of
1:33:42
Speaker 1: the Deutsche Bank Wealth management division, and Thomas Bowers and
1:33:45
Speaker 1: the division that he managed moved money frequently for Epstein.
1:33:49
Speaker 1: And Thomas Bowers who managed a ton of Epstein's finances
1:33:53
Speaker 1: and had connections to that dark side of the Epstein operation.
1:33:56
Speaker 1: He was also found inside of his California home in
1:34:00
Speaker 1: November twenty nineteen, just a few months after Epstein's death.
1:34:04
Speaker 1: Now I could talk about this all day. I feel
1:34:06
Speaker 1: like I've been talking about this all day. This is
1:34:08
Speaker 1: such a long episode, so I'm just gonna wrap it
1:34:11
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1:34:35
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