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- 2:42of Dragnet, and after the show we'll talk a little bit about Barton Yarborough.
- 2:47But here now is Production five, also known as the Helen Corde Murder.
- 3:02Ladies and Gentlemen. The story you are about to hear is true,
- 3:07only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. NBC brings you drag
- 3:14Net. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a homicide. Somewhere in the
- 3:29tangled web of your city. There's a killer on the loose. A young
- 3:32woman has been brutally murdered. The weapon a steel bludgeon. Your job is
- 3:39to get him. Drag Nets the documented drama of an actual crime, investigated
- 3:47and solved by the men who unrelentingly stand watch on the security of your home,
- 3:53your family, and your life. For the next thirty minutes, in
- 3:57cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on
- 4:00the side of the law through an actual case, from official police files,
- 4:04from beginning to end, from crime to punishments. Dragnet is the story of
- 4:11your police force in action. It was Thursday, March nineteenth, was foggy
- 4:20in Los Angeles. We were working the night Watch out of homicide detail.
- 4:25My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is ed Backstrand, Chief of Detectives.
- 4:30My name's Friday. It was nine fourteen PM when I got to the Old
- 4:32Central Jail Building, third floor. The crime lamb Hi Joe Hi. Commonly
- 4:40just run a spectrograph. What you find the paint flake from the victims head,
- 4:44matches that paint on the hunk of pipe, any prints, the pipe
- 4:46was clean, no latent print. I figured anything else. Got those blood
- 4:50test reports. A couple of slides for you to look out under the comparison
- 4:54Mike, Thanksully, Oh hi Joe. Then hear you come in. What's
- 4:58looked like, Ben? Here's the blood test reports. This one is blood
- 5:01found on the piece of pie, Type A. This one's blood from the
- 5:04victim. Type A. They matched. That's right, boys, doesn't mean
- 5:10too much. So if you look at these slides under the microscope, not
- 5:13yet, this is your clincher. Wait till I get the light. Okay,
- 5:16take a look. Gotta make Yeah, go ahead. Well this slide
- 5:24here on the right, that's a slice of hair from the victim's head.
- 5:28On the other slide his hair found on the steel pipe. Yeah, she
- 5:30had wavy hair. Both specimens are flat, same hair. Joe, You
- 5:34got anything on that piece of piepley, Nothing, just ordinary steel pipe fourteen
- 5:41inches long? What else you got? The plaster impressions of those footprints we
- 5:45found by the body here they are crape sold tennis shoes, new ones,
- 5:51size nine, good impression. Ground was soft man about one hundred and fifty
- 5:56pounds. According to the length of stride, roughly about five feet hen inches
- 6:00tall. Yeah, new shoes, all right, you can still read the
- 6:02manufacturer's label. That's right, made by the Sport King Company. Well that's
- 6:05something to follow up. Yeah. Sure, you could start with the tennis
- 6:09courts, only about a thousand or so in LA. Maybe you'd rather track
- 6:13down the brand. These particular tennis shoes are the biggest sellers in the country.
- 6:16Yeah, right, you like to start Minneapolis or Pullman, Washington.
- 6:20What about that glove? Yeah, you might look for a missing glove.
- 6:24Yeah, they go well with the shoes, just about as common white cotton
- 6:28work gloves or the blue top. Here's the right glove, you find the
- 6:31left one? Blood own a glove type. Well that's good evidence, Jones.
- 6:35But where's the lead? Now? Look, I don't ask you to
- 6:38pay my parking tickets. You want to see blow ups? Okay? Right
- 6:42over here? Uh yeah, this is the vacant lot where they found the
- 6:46body. And that's right. Here's a close up of her showing the location
- 6:50of the murder weapon, the glove and the footprints relative to the position of
- 6:54the body. Looks as bad as yesterday. Sure did work her over,
- 6:58didn't you. The rest of these are interested. I checked them this morning.
- 7:02Once is enough? Lee? That winds it? Boy? You want
- 7:05to go over the stuff in her purse again? You're find anything more?
- 7:09No, nothing you haven't seen already, the usual makeup home, Barrett.
- 7:14That's a hair clip, few cheap stones in it, loose change, a
- 7:17quarter nickel, few pennies her id card. Yeah. Helen Corday thirty three,
- 7:25Naomi place, age twenty one, twenty one? That's not very old,
- 7:30is it? Lee? Not to die? No? Helen could Who
- 7:44could kill Helen could? Day? Why why do you say that, mister
- 7:46Meyer? But people kill for money, they kill for love? Helen?
- 7:51Could they hit? Not enough? See you? No boyfriend? Nothing here?
- 7:55No? She was a good worker. Five different vader says the union
- 7:59VENs me one month five? Did the union send Helen to you? For
- 8:01sure? Sure, all the girls come from the union, But man like
- 8:03Helen. No, she was sweet, honest and courteous. Mister Mayer.
- 8:09Did you know anything about her personal life? Only that she was a good
- 8:13worker? Everything else she took home with her from this place. Did she
- 8:16ever mention any men to you? Anyone at all? No, gentleman,
- 8:20not one. How much money did you make here? I paid her twenty
- 8:24six dollars fifty cents a week every Tuesday, and not much zalary for so
- 8:28much work. But the tips are very good here nice customers. There's her
- 8:31home address, thirty three Naomi Place, certainly three now that's side. Yeah,
- 8:37thank you very much, mister Miya for your time. Wonder what kind
- 8:41of a person does things like that? Who could kill Helen Cordy? Everybody
- 8:46liked heaven Helen Cordy. I never liked her. Come on in the office,
- 8:54boys, where we can talk. Never liked her because I knew her.
- 9:00You're the head of the union. ID just the steward. I know
- 9:01most of the girls. It's Cordiy girl. What was she? What she
- 9:05look like? Small brunette, about five or three. Here's a picture.
- 9:11Yeah, pretty girl, wasn't she? Oh sure, sure, please throw
- 9:16out it out of us place. Nice little Dutch fellow out of Mayer.
- 9:20That's right. He seemed to think quite a lot of her. Yeah,
- 9:22she was a fine worker, Ah sure, always ride up ones, paid
- 9:28all the assessments right on time. You said you didn't know it or not
- 9:31right off? I didn't it when you showed me that picture there place to
- 9:33ride away? You know anything about her personal life. Wait a minute,
- 9:37why all these questions. Helen cord Day was murdered last night? Oh who
- 9:43did it? Do you know anything about her personal life? See my position,
- 9:48sergeant, twelve hundred girls, check him in, check him out.
- 9:52Just names to me to see a picture of them. You wouldn't know if
- 9:54she had any boyfriends here in the union waiter bus boy that I wouldn't know.
- 10:00I got to tell you, Sergeant, I never know Helen Corday.
- 10:03Sure I knew Helen Corday. Gus plays a nice piano, as Sergeant,
- 10:09Yeah, I read about it in the paper this morning. How long you've
- 10:13been selling pianos here at display? But as long as I knew Helen three
- 10:18years? How'd you find me? Helen's landlady. We talked to her yesterday.
- 10:22She told us she worked here at this piano store. Oh it's funny,
- 10:26isn't What's funny? See Gus over there, that fellow demonstrating the piano.
- 10:33A few weeks ago. I made a deal with him to give Helen
- 10:35piano lessons. I figured it would help her with her singing lessons, wanting
- 10:39to be a singer. You know, did Helen know that fellow Gus,
- 10:43No, she never met him. Who gave her the singing lessons? Miss
- 10:46Olsen? She took from Ostrander, Paul Ostrander out on Melrose. A lot
- 10:50of movie people used to take from him. What do you know about her
- 10:54personal life? How do you mean does she have any boyfriends? Well?
- 10:58Yes, you don't seem sure myself. Well, it's just that I don't
- 11:01know. I never asked Helen, but she did have a few dates with
- 11:07Paul Ostrander. I don't think she was serious. How about Ostrander? Gee,
- 11:13I don't know. Sergeant, I don't want to involve anybody. You
- 11:16want to help us find the killer, don't you? Yes, But if
- 11:18you're thinking Paul Ostrander did it, no, I'm sure he didn't kill her.
- 11:28Ah, that's off to day Victoria. No, gentlemen, I did
- 11:46not kill Helen Paul Day. You gave her seeing lessons, mister Ostrander.
- 11:50You know her pretty well? Yes, I gave her voice coaching about a
- 11:54year and a half. Helen said a little promise, not a great voice.
- 11:56It's badly Brad. You know her pretty well? Why'd you say that,
- 12:01mister Astrander? Didn't you used to take her out in less than a
- 12:03while. No, I didn't know Helen socially at all. We know you
- 12:07had dates with her, That's not true. The only times I saw was
- 12:11funch. She came here to the studio for lessons. You better tell the
- 12:13truth, mister Ostrander. We can prove that you've been out with her.
- 12:16Praid of the publicity? Is that it? Certainly that's it. I have
- 12:20a successful business here, I've spent years building it. Anything right, this
- 12:22has ruined me. Then you have been out with it only a few times,
- 12:26nothing serious. I had nothing to do with her murder. Now that's
- 12:28the true. Don't you know that withholding information about a thing like this can
- 12:31go kind of hard for you? Yes, I know that. What else
- 12:33could I do, mister Ostrander. Somewhere in this city right now, there's
- 12:37a guy who beat a young girl to death. He crushed her skull with
- 12:39a piece of steel pipe. We need every bit of information we can get
- 12:41to track him down. I know that you could have come to us.
- 12:45We wouldn't run to the newspapers with it. If the information is confidential,
- 12:48that's the way we treat it. Most of the time. It's the people
- 12:48who run to the newspapers first, then they come to us. That's right,
- 12:52mister Ostrander. People are their own press agents. Sargeant, I'd like
- 12:54to know what right you have to invade my privacy and lecture me on my
- 12:58city. All right, I'll tell you what right, Ostrander. We want
- 13:00the man who murdered Helen Corday. I got as much right as he had
- 13:03at twelve fourteen this morning. Come on, Joe Yeah, thanks, mister
- 13:07Ostrander. Sorry if I invaded your privacy. Cheef the detectives of us Halen,
- 13:20Oh, I'm sorry, ma'am. I got the long extension. Try
- 13:24two five one one. You're welcome. Hi Friday, he Ram, she's
- 13:30been looking for you. Thank you. Mike. Come on, Joey,
- 13:35Hello, Joe Ben, sit down. What'd you get? A notebook full
- 13:39of notes, a crime lab full of evidence, nothing to time together.
- 13:43M These some of the people you interviewed, Yeah, losn about a dozen
- 13:48more we didn't even take notes on. It's hard to figure scamper. Everybody
- 13:52seemed to lack this girl, Ellen Corday, no known relative, single,
- 13:56unattached girl living all alone in the city, and no enemies. None we
- 14:01can find anyway, you satisfied that all the people you interviewed are in the
- 14:05clear. Well, if we're going to stick to the sample, robbery motiva
- 14:07or kind of money hell in court they made, wouldn't they arrest those people?
- 14:11How are you doing on the outside, leads? Nothing? If we
- 14:15could just find one hole someplace, anything? All right? Now, Look,
- 14:18you've got a lab full of evidence across the street. You've got a
- 14:20book full of names. Here, You've got the pieces. I'll put them
- 14:24together. They just don't add. Well, go over them and keep going
- 14:28over them until they do add anything from the informants, No, nothing so
- 14:31far. No tips on anybody that's been do heavy lately. Nobody's shooting off
- 14:35their mouth. The guy we want won't advertise figures himself a pretty smooth operator,
- 14:39but he probably made a mistake somewhere along the line. We'll find it.
- 14:45Go yeah, two twenty casino woman, probable attack. All right,
- 14:50Friday, you and Ben run it down. We ran down the hot shot
- 14:58call for thirty two to twenty Casino turned out to be a typical dead end
- 15:01lead. Her name was missus Lillian Horne. For the past five years,
- 15:05mister Horn had been paid regularly on Wednesdays. He spent all day Thursday drinking
- 15:11up his paycheck and beating his wife. The call had no connection with the
- 15:13Cord murder. We made the usual call in the communications unit eighty CAA Control
- 15:20one eighty K to control one during one to EIGHTYK going ahead on that probable
- 15:24attack thirty two twenty casino code for eighty K Roger EIGHTYK to control one KMA
- 15:31three to sixty seven. That was the beginning for the next three days.
- 15:37We followed up every lead and every call, but they were all blind.
- 15:41All units were alerted, and they had as much information on the killer of
- 15:43Helen Cord as we did. Ben and I cruise throughout the entire Central Division,
- 15:48which covered every probable call that might have some connection with the murder.
- 15:54I plan some unit forty one on sixteen to fifty four Swanson Terris, a
- 15:58Roman victim of carbon our attack, come through doing it forty rock. It
- 16:06didn't make any difference what the car was. If there was a possibility at
- 16:08night tie in with the corday and murder, we ran it down. We
- 16:11needed a twenty four hour job so far. If the killer made a mistake,
- 16:15we hadn't been able to find it. The cour day funeral was on
- 16:21Monday. They were all there, the girl's landlady, the boy's teacher,
- 16:25Ostrander, the girl friend Marie Olson, a man from the union, and
- 16:29her boss Ottomeyer, but nobody else we hadn't checked. That was Monday afternoon.
- 16:36Monday night, we went back to the old routine, tracking calls during
- 16:38the night in the squad car, picking up small threads that led nowhere.
- 16:42Three more days of the same thing. Thursday morning, one week after we
- 16:47found Helen Corday's body, we got an anonymous phone till I know who killed
- 16:51Helen Corday. His name is George Barlow. He lives at four eighteen White
- 16:55Oak Avenue. He used to date her up all the time. Get him
- 16:59and you've got them. We checked George Borrow one about ten others just like
- 17:04him, none of them new Helen Cordator. Saturday night, Ben and I
- 17:10were back in the squad car cruising the Central Division. Saturday Night's a good
- 17:14night for robbery. By ten pm we'd run down four various calls one twenty
- 17:19three Code one one twenty three, Roger twelve g Crawia Station in a thirteen
- 17:30R twelve fifty four tower road. A woman screaming, mistigating trouble. How
- 17:33two, let's handle that one, ben yeh okay, I'll notify Communications Unit
- 17:37eighty K to control one, eighty K to control one Control one the unit
- 17:44eighty K go ahead on your twelve fifty four tower road call. We are
- 17:48in the vicinity. We will handle eighty K. Roger eighty K to control
- 17:52one km eight three sixty seven. Let's go then roll one to thirteen R
- 17:57does forgad your raft call? Adn't find Eddie King, it's you'd be right
- 18:03about it. Here, oh man, here it is well fifty four?
- 18:12Where guilty? Come on? Where'd he go? Joe? Turn right at
- 18:21the next corner. I see him up ahead. He's got a good lead
- 18:26on us. Hit the siren. He's getting. Joe took a left at
- 18:32the next corner. Oh, he isn't gonna stop closing as tight as you
- 18:37can. Ben out to the floor. Now, swing out to the left
- 18:40a little. I'm going for his tires right, all right, that'll flow
- 18:45him down, full up on him. Yeah, all right, Joe,
- 18:51keep both hands on that wheel and get over the curb. Government. Joe
- 18:55right out of that car, mister, shake him down. Hey, take
- 19:00it easy, I haven't got a gun. Put the cups on him,
- 19:07You boys, work fast? What am I doing with the gas chamber?
- 19:10Just save that menthy. It's a pretty rough treatment for speeding. All right,
- 19:12come on you look, I got all right to know where you're taking
- 19:18me. What's the charge? Well, let the girl tell you what.
- 19:26We can sit there and be quiet. Huh oh, I know where you're
- 19:30going and place back on Tar road. Well, I asked to use the
- 19:33phone. The girl slammed the door in my face. I don't know what
- 19:37your cops are trying to prove. I just wanted to use the phone,
- 19:40that's all. I even tried to scare a little I told her I'd hit
- 19:45over the head if she didn't let me use the phone. It's a laugh.
- 19:49Run all right, you get out here. Yeah, it's the place.
- 19:53Get out, hey, I got nothing to hide. That little girl
- 20:02is gonna lie. You know that, don't you. Who's there? Police
- 20:07officer? What's the man? His full name's Frank Philip Larson had no previous
- 20:19records. This the girl's rippling? Yeah, shit, scaper, h Judy
- 20:26Scott, How old is she he's nineteen's the babysitter. Real tough boy,
- 20:30isn't He pours his way into the house, hid her about the neck and
- 20:34arms, tire iron he bought up in his car. Jones is running through
- 20:38the crime lab. Asked her if she had any money. She told him
- 20:41no, struck her again. Where's this? Lots and lived hotel out near
- 20:45Santa Monica. The clothing salesman. He had worked for a big men's store,
- 20:48Burns and Company. According to the house book sales record, he bought
- 20:51a pair of ten of shoes two weeks ago. We hes one hundred and
- 20:53fifty eight pounds five for eleven inches. Dennis hues her mission. They're not
- 20:56in his hotel room. He's not learning. What else do you find?
- 21:00A Ryan stone? You mean a pen? No, just a small loose
- 21:03stone recovered from the rug and Larsen's room. Grime lab got it working on
- 21:06it. Now ed we got the man who killed Helen Corday. A few
- 21:19scraps of circumstantial evidence in a hunch, that's not much to go on.
- 21:25Larson had gone after the little scott girl with a tire iron. Wasn't much
- 21:27of a tie in, but we had to be sure. All that day
- 21:30we checked Frank Larson's alibi for the night of Helen cor Day's murder. We
- 21:33interviewed the personnel manager at Burns and Company where he worked. We talked to
- 21:37all the clerks, soon knew him, a manager of the hotel where he
- 21:40lived. We found out everything we could about Frank Larson, and that night,
- 21:42at ten o'clock we had the prisoner brought to the interrogation room. All
- 21:48right, Larson, fine, just fine, I like jail, Sit down,
- 21:52lousy weather been foggy all over time. I wouldn't know. I've been
- 21:56inside all day. How old are you? Lawton? Thirty one? Same
- 21:59as the last time you were asking where'd you go to school? I didn't.
- 22:03I was born smart. You sell clothes, don't you talk? We
- 22:06know you work for Burns and Company. Remember you told us what is all
- 22:08this? What are you guys trying to build? You just want to know
- 22:11if you like selling clothes. That's all we do. You coppers know about
- 22:14clothes. One blue surge of year is your speed. You know quite a
- 22:18bit about clothes, don't you. I've been selling them for five years.
- 22:21Can you tell me something I've been wondering about what's that? Are your stocks
- 22:25and tie always sposed to me? That's what the style books say. Bet,
- 22:29you always know the right things to wear, don't you. You wouldn't
- 22:32wear black shoes with a brown suit, would you? Is that what you're
- 22:33keeping me here for stylism? Oh? Would you? Would you wear black
- 22:37shoes with brown suit? Morset? People wouldn't? Bet you wouldn't wear brown
- 22:42shoes with a tax seed overer. I've been smoking too much. You gotta
- 22:47go someware. Oh yeah, sure, Hey you are lord nice? That's
- 23:03good and cool? How about it? Would you ever wear brown shoes with
- 23:06a tucks? Nobody would? That's a navy blue flannel and you got on
- 23:10there, isn't it. Yeah? It's a good looking suit. Stop run
- 23:14sometime, get you a good deal suit like that flannel eire you're wearing.
- 23:18You'd never wear tennis shoes with an outfit like that, would you? What
- 23:21do you think? I think you did? I think you wore them the
- 23:22night you killed Helen Cord a Oho. Maybe you didn't have the blue suit
- 23:26on, but you were wearing tennis shoes sport King size nine sell for five
- 23:29ninety five. You pick them up at a discount cost you three and a
- 23:30quarter? Where'd you get that out of the house? Book Burns and Company.
- 23:34You wouldn't have those shoes around, now, would you. We couldn't
- 23:37find them in your hotel room. You're boss, Mister Craig. Used to
- 23:41think a lot of you, Larson, before you started drinking on a job.
- 23:44Your commissions just run pretty high up the last couple of months. What
- 23:48happened that cheap ride get to you? Were you two really noised around,
- 23:51didn't you? Weren't you gonna tell me what I eat for breakfast? Corn
- 23:53flakes, cup of coffee, donut, sometimes two donuts when you're hungry.
- 23:56Elsie waits on you at the Royal Cafe. She gets a tipple and I
- 24:00ask him more that water yourself as a cooler. They're good and cold.
- 24:14How about it, Larson? Wear the tennis shoes they wore out in three
- 24:17weeks. Ain'd be very good tennis shoes or they didn't wear out. What'd
- 24:19you do with them? You know all the answers. You figure it out.
- 24:23We know you bought the tennis shoes. We don't know where they are
- 24:26now. We know you had them five nine three feet from the body of
- 24:29Helen Corday. We found two size nine footprints made by a pair of sporteen
- 24:33tennis shoes. I figured the man weighed about one hundred and fifty pounds.
- 24:34You weigh one hundred and fifty eight. It's about five foot tenth. You're
- 24:37five eleven. You come awful close to being the same build as a man
- 24:41who killed Helen Corday. Don't you large man? You wear the same size
- 24:44tennis shoes, same brand name. A lot of people wear nines. It's
- 24:47the average size. They sell a lot of sport games to. Everybody wears
- 24:49them. We could find your pair might make a difference. It doesn't mean
- 24:52your tennis shoes made the prince with a body doesn't prove it. It didn't
- 24:56neither what you do with the Martian. I threw them away too bad.
- 25:00Might make a difference. Oh what difference could it make? I threw them
- 25:03away, that's all. How about the mate to this glove? I never
- 25:06saw it before. Found this right hand glove, but the body of Helen
- 25:08Corday just an ordinary cotton work glove. Everybody wears them. We could find
- 25:12the miss and left glove might make a difference. Size medium that's the average
- 25:17too, isn't that? Larcense? I never saw work clothes. I wouldn't
- 25:19know. No, but you bought work gloves, haven't you? Not a
- 25:22pair of those? I mean like this? Don't you only got one?
- 25:25What kind of work gloves did you buy it? I didn't buy any.
- 25:26You just said you did. I never said I bought any work gloves.
- 25:30You bought tennis shoes, though, didn't you. I told you I bought
- 25:32the tennis shoes. Didn't I tell you I bought them? No? You
- 25:34didn't tell us. We told you found out from Prinson Company where you were?
- 25:37All right? You told me I bought them, you and all that
- 25:38same kind of tennis shoes that made foot prints by Helen Corday's. But it
- 25:41wasn't me. And why won't you tell us what you did with it?
- 25:44I've already told you I threw them away. They were only three weeks old.
- 25:45Le's the worn out off a fair. I didn't say they wore out
- 25:48they got too dirty, though you told us they wore out, Remember,
- 25:51Larsen, I don't remember what I told you, but I don't have them
- 25:52now we know you don't have them. Now where are they? He told
- 25:55us they got too dirty, right Larcense, Yes, yes, yes,
- 25:59that's what I said. Anyhow, you haven't got him now, No,
- 26:02I haven't got him now, all right? Not just for the record,
- 26:03Larsen, which was it? Did they get too dirty or did they wear
- 26:04out? Whatever I said before? You said both before, Lark, all
- 26:07right, I said both. You haven't got anything on me. We got
- 26:10that little scott girl's statement from last night. She says you tried to kill
- 26:11her. She's lying. I told you she'd lie, didn't I. I
- 26:15only wanted to use a phone. She says you hit her with a tire
- 26:17iron. Did you hit her with that iron? No? I only tried
- 26:18to scare I didn't hit her with anything. Then. How did you get
- 26:21those marks around her neck? No? Police doctor says they were made with
- 26:22that tyre iron. I don't care what your doctor says. I didn't hurt
- 26:26her. I what do you mean, Larsen? You didn't hurt her.
- 26:26You didn't hit her with that time? You know what? I just wanted
- 26:29to use her phone. How do you know she had a phone. I
- 26:30didn't know if she had a phone. I just went have to find out
- 26:33to find out why, I find out if I could use her phone,
- 26:34but she said you didn't know if she had a phone. I don't know
- 26:37anything there where you pushed everything around. Sorry, Larson, we only want
- 26:41the truth. How about a cigarette? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
- 26:45could use here's a lie, Larson. Where were you Wednesday night in March
- 26:52eighteenth? How many times you're gonna ask me that same question? Just want
- 26:56to make sure we got it right. I told you this morning to a
- 27:00show. I got out about eleven, had a beer, and I went
- 27:02home. What times you get home? About eleven thirty? Did you stay?
- 27:03I went to bed? What'd you see at the show? I never
- 27:06remember the names? You ought to try to remember this, and it's pretty
- 27:08important. I was a deluxe theater. It was Spencer, Tracy and something.
- 27:14What was on when you walked in the news? I never go in
- 27:15in the middle of a picture. Neither do lass boys and for me,
- 27:19yeah that's right. The girl in the box office doesn't remember seeing you go
- 27:22in. You know it was Keeno night. There's a big crowd. Did
- 27:26you win anything? I never do. Anybody hit the jack boy? I
- 27:29don't remember. They gave away a lot of money in those neighborhood theaters.
- 27:32I always remember who hits the jack butt? All right? You do?
- 27:33I don't. Do you remember if anybody won the jock? I told you
- 27:37no. Did they have a jackpot at that show? I guess they do.
- 27:38I don't know. You know it was Keeno night. You should know
- 27:41if I had a jack butt. Maybe they had a jackpot. I don't
- 27:44know. I went out for a smoke. You said the cartoon was on
- 27:47when you walked in. Why do you always twist what I say? I
- 27:49told you the news was on when I went in. You remember anything about
- 27:52the news? It was ten days ago. How do I know what was
- 27:55in it? I only know it was a news real life lying lash,
- 27:56and we checked your alibi. The manager of the theater had to cut the
- 27:59news reel Wednesday night because the show was running along with Keno Knight. You
- 28:02didn't go to show Wednesday night, did you? All right? Maybe I
- 28:03didn't not. I don't remember. What's the different the differences? You could
- 28:06have been in that vacant lot the same night, the night Helen Cordy was
- 28:07murdered. I didn't kill her. You can't prove I didn't. Interrogation Room
- 28:12Friday, Hi Jones, it did huh you're positive. Uh yeah, okay,
- 28:21thanks Ley. Sure you didn't want to tell us what you did with
- 28:23those tennis shoes. I'm not going to go back over all that I've told
- 28:26you guys. How I'm going to tell you, you know how the Cordy
- 28:30girl was murdered. How would I know? I don't know anything about it.
- 28:32She's on her way home from work as usual about midnight. Of course
- 28:34you were home in bed about that time, but you didn't go to the
- 28:37show at night, Larson. On her way home, Helen Corday always took
- 28:40a short cut across a vacant lot. She was about halfway through the lot
- 28:42when the murderer tried to grab her purse. She screamed and he struck her,
- 28:47hit her several times. The piece of steel pipe fourteen inches long.
- 28:49He beat her to death with that piece of steel pipe. Then he dropped
- 28:52the pipe in the right hand cotton worked glove. He left two footprints size
- 28:55nine's fourteen tennis shoes. I know all that. Well, here's something you
- 28:57don't know. When the killer's the paper money out of that girl's purse,
- 29:00he accidentally took along a loose rhine stone, a stone that fell out of
- 29:03a cheap burrett in the bottom of her bag. He carried that stone home
- 29:07with him. When he reached in his pocket to pull out the money he
- 29:08stole from her, the rhinestone fell on the floor. So we found that
- 29:11rhinestone on the rug in your hotel room. Oh, I haven't lived in
- 29:14that hotel room all my life. Maybe the tenant before me dropped it.
- 29:17The No, not this way. We checked the cement that held it in
- 29:18that burrett. It matches the glue on the stone. No, Larson,
- 29:22that rhinestone came from the haircliff that Helen Corday wore before she was murdered.
- 29:25And that's enough to take you to the district atourney with what am I supposed
- 29:27to show? We want you to tell us the truth. Why did you
- 29:29kill Helen Corday? Yep, you right. The sandwiches and coffee now,
- 29:37sageon, wrang them in mine. Looks like we're going to be here a
- 29:38long time. Yeah. I brought your ham, cheese and liver worst and
- 29:45some fruit coffee's black cream and sugar on the side. Thank you, Mike.
- 29:52It looks good. What kinds you want? Lawton ham? Jeez?
- 29:57The liver word. Am I not hungry? Okay? I like you?
- 30:04No, thanks, I think I'll have an apple. Yeah, fun,
- 30:08I looks you will play that. Larsan want coffee if I hear it's a
- 30:15fine apple, nice and fresh. This is Washington apple. I don't know.
- 30:22I'm not coffee hot enough. That's fine. Whe Mike pick each up
- 30:29well across the drake he's no, huh oh, thank you good. I'll
- 30:37drink your coffee anyway. Larson, it's getting cold right. I didn't want
- 30:45to kill her, she screamed, and I hit her. All I wanted
- 30:48was the person. That's all I wanted. She wouldn't give to me.
- 30:51She had to fight back, so I hit her. I didn't want to
- 30:53kill her. All she had to do would give me the person. I
- 30:56wouldn't do what he was drinking. Know what I'm doing. I stay with
- 31:14them. We'll call a stenographer, say it's more Jill good night. Yeah,
- 31:26so our racket hurt. The story you have just heard is true,
- 31:37only the names were changed to protect the innocent. Frank Philip Larson was tried
- 31:44and convicted of murder in the first degree. He was executed in the lethal
- 31:48gas chamber at the State Penitentiary. You have just heard the fifth in a
- 31:57new series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet is furnished
- 32:04by the Los Angeles Police Department. Tonight's program is dedicated to police Officer Charles
- 32:10A. Brady of the Chicago, Illinois Police Department, who, on the
- 32:15night of September two, nineteen forty five, gave his life so that yours
- 32:21might be more secure. Dragnet came to you from Los Angeles. This is
- 32:30NBC, the National Broadcasting Company. Welcome back. Well, this is an
- 32:45interesting episode for a few reasons. One is Friday showing some emotion here in
- 32:53terms of dealing with a difficult case and taking it to heart, really frustrated
- 33:00and expressive about witness concealing information, and also somewhat personally affected by the crime.
- 33:09And usually this would not be the typical tact for Friday, and it'd
- 33:14be something that would be pretty rare throughout the run. But it wouldn't be
- 33:17something just limited to his age, though I think age does play a bit
- 33:23of a factor in it. It can be hard to wrap her mind around
- 33:30this, perhaps, but at the time of this program, Jack Webb was
- 33:38just a little past twenty nine. He may have the same rank as Romero,
- 33:45but Romero is the more seasoned officer, which is illustrated in that particular
- 33:51scene. Another case, one that I remember very clearly, was from when
- 33:58he was much older, in nineteen sixty seven. Typically, while Friday is
- 34:05never indifferent, he's often just very professional and quietly works through a lot of
- 34:10stuff. Plus, you know, when you get into some later programs where
- 34:15he gets on uncooperative witnesses, let's say take the nineteen fifty four movie.
- 34:23By that point, there's a bit more experience as well as expectation the character,
- 34:30so you see an entirely different way of expressing the frustration. The interrogation
- 34:37bit at the end was fascinating, and it speaks volumes to the talent of
- 34:44Jack Webb and bart and Yarborough that they were able to keep that, and
- 34:50certainly under such a situation, it's kind of hard to keep your story straight,
- 34:54particularly if you really have got to work on something you concocted. Though
- 34:59they I'd shown one later episode I forget which one, where they used that
- 35:06on someone they thought had committed a crime and were breaking him down, and
- 35:12then they found evidence that somebody else did it, so unfortunately that's not a
- 35:15barrage that just works on the guilty. Raymond Burr here joins the cast,
- 35:21taking over for Charlie McGraw, and I think really is an improvement as the
- 35:27second ed Backstrand. The way McGraw played Backstrand, it was just too melodramatic
- 35:32to work with what Dragnet would become. And Burr's work here is pretty interesting
- 35:38and at times somewhat show stealing in the way he presents this character. Now
- 35:45I said we would talk a little bit about Bart and Yarborough. Yarborough was
- 35:47about twenty years older than Web, and he'd gotten his real start in radio
- 35:55in the nineteen thirties and was probably best known prior to Dragnet for his work
- 36:01with Carlton Morse, where he played Clifford on radio's longest running soap opera,
- 36:12One Man's Family, and he also played the role of Doc on I Love
- 36:19a Mystery, and those were his big roles, but throughout that he also
- 36:27was known as someone who did a lot of character work. As an native
- 36:31born Texan, he was called upon often to play roles of people who were
- 36:38from Texas in a wide variety of different programs. He and Webb worked together
- 36:45in the mid nineteen forties on several projects. They appeared in an episode of
- 36:52Escape together as well as an episode of Jeff Reagan, and then there was
- 36:55a pilot that they recorded with Elliott Lewis called Three Four Adventures. In the
- 37:02series, the three men would play three adventurers with very different background and Yarbroughs
- 37:09was picked to play a Texan. Believe it or not, his film work
- 37:15was really limited, but he definitely left a lasting impression on radio, and
- 37:22having someone who had been as active in the industry in so many successful projects
- 37:30certainly helped to make Dragon At such a big success. Though, his interpretation
- 37:35and the way that he played the role of Friday's partner as well as the
- 37:40relationship between the two is very different from what we would say later on with
- 37:46Frank Smith and later built in and Well, now we turn to listener comments
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