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When Church Gives You Lemons · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Start your day with Wes. You're listening to the West
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Speaker 1: Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, twentieth day of January. I'm Wes, thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. Felt actually like a long weekend. I know
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Speaker 2: not everybody had the holiday off yesterday. I hope if
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Speaker 2: you did, you were able to maybe spend some extra
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Speaker 2: time with family, get a little much needed rest, maybe
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Speaker 2: check a few things off the old honeydo list or
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Speaker 2: the I'm my own honeydo list, whatever your situation. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I can't speak for what's going on in
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Speaker 2: your house. You know, I can tell you that was
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Speaker 2: a busy day around here, and we got some things done.
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Speaker 2: That's what I can tell you. Here in our house,
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Speaker 2: we got some things done yesterday. And that was after
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Speaker 2: a weekend of football. I mean there was still some
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Speaker 2: football last night, but a week of football and lots
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Speaker 2: of crazy stuff going on in the world of the NFL.
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Speaker 2: I don't always talk about necessarily this, but kind of
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Speaker 2: a big thing for I'm h since a kid became
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Speaker 2: a New York Giants fan in uh in the NFL,
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Speaker 2: I just liked Lawrence Taylor. I mean that was the
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Speaker 2: basis for starting it out, and you just go, I
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Speaker 2: like that guy, and this is my team and through
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Speaker 2: a lot of uh, there's been some ups and downs.
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Speaker 2: It's one of it's one of the most ups and
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Speaker 2: downs things I've as far as sports goes. You know,
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Speaker 2: you have your you have a high and then a
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Speaker 2: low for a while, and then a high. And if
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Speaker 2: you actually stick with a team and you don't, you know,
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Speaker 2: jump around to whoever happens to be the popular team
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Speaker 2: or whoever's dating a pop star or whatever. You know,
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Speaker 2: you go through those those and it's been a lot
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Speaker 2: of lows for the York Giants. I'm not this isn't
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Speaker 2: going to be a lot on the Giants, I promise,
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Speaker 2: But this John Harbaugh hiring was a big deal. It
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Speaker 2: was a big celebration in the in the Carroll House.
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Speaker 2: I'll just say that it was a big It was
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Speaker 2: a big deal. Is it all was starting to play
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Speaker 2: out and finally got officially done and announced in things
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Speaker 2: so and then the Bills firing their coach McDermott being fired.
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Speaker 2: That's that's also a really big deal in in the NFL,
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Speaker 2: and rumors that the Giants old coach could be you know,
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Speaker 2: Brian Dabele could be the next coach there because apparently
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Speaker 2: he and and Josh Allen were tight, and Josh Allen
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Speaker 2: likes him a lot. So I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 2: know where all this goes. I'm not, you know, one
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Speaker 2: of those forecasters. I'm one of those guys who stood
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Speaker 2: on the sidelines behind Nick Saban for years and then
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden now talks about sports on TV
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Speaker 2: standing in the background. It's not me. I'm not that guy.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just like to watch sports and
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Speaker 2: complain when my team doesn't win and get frustrated, and
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Speaker 2: I'm just there's a little optimism in the world. That's
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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, that's all. There's just a little
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Speaker 2: optimism for the New York Giants, and I know the
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Speaker 2: Falcons have I Falcons got a great coach, So some
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Speaker 2: optimism there for the Falcons. Those are two teams that
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Speaker 2: really felt like they were just the right coach away
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Speaker 2: from being able to put things together. And I feel
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Speaker 2: like the Giants have their guy quarterback. I don't know
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Speaker 2: that the Falcons do. I'm not sold completely, but I
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Speaker 2: you know, for Falcons fans, I'm hopeful there for you
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Speaker 2: love to see those teams in the NFC Championship game
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Speaker 2: and the Giants winning. But that's me personally. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to step on any toes. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: do that. I'm not kicking indoors on a church for
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Speaker 2: a football protest. That's not what I'm doing. That's not
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Speaker 2: my goal with the show today. That's not where I'm
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Speaker 2: going at all. So speaking of that, let's get into
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Speaker 2: it because Don Lemon, of course, a lot of headlines
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Speaker 2: over the weekend as what was supposed to be. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a weekend to reflect on things.
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Speaker 2: It should be a weekend to reflect on where we
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Speaker 2: are as a country with race. It should be a weekend.
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Speaker 2: I know. People like to cherry pick Martin Luther King.
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Speaker 2: They just do. There's things about his messages that people
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Speaker 2: like to quote, and there's things about his messages that
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Speaker 2: people don't like to quote. And it's just it's just
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Speaker 2: one of those things. Depending on the sides, that's what
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Speaker 2: people do. They like to figure out which which fits
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Speaker 2: their narrative and what makes their side right at least
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Speaker 2: when it comes to this particular holiday weekend, that's what
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Speaker 2: they do. And you notice that, you know, there have
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Speaker 2: been times in the past where conservative white people would
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Speaker 2: post things I guess even conservative black people. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: you post something that from doctor King that the people
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Speaker 2: on the left don't like. They get mad at you,
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Speaker 2: and you know, he was really this guy, he wouldn't
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Speaker 2: have been a Republican, and then people on the right say, yes,
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Speaker 2: he would have and all these things, and I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I can't go back in a time machine and change
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Speaker 2: all of it. I know what I know about him,
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Speaker 2: and that's all I got. That's all I got, really,
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Speaker 2: and that's all any of us really have. Is if
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Speaker 2: we've done our homework, if we've done our research, and
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Speaker 2: that's all we can do, and then we move forward
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Speaker 2: and we try to be good people. We try not
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Speaker 2: to be pieces of garbage navigating this world. And honestly,
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Speaker 2: if we're at a point now in twenty twenty six
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Speaker 2: where race is worse than it was sixty years ago,
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Speaker 2: I'm only fifty, so you can't say that. You can't
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Speaker 2: say that I know what it was like sixty seventy
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Speaker 2: years ago. I can't do that. But I've done my homework.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. I can't tell you
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Speaker 2: where things because of life experiences where things rnant compared
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Speaker 2: to that. What I can tell you is that if
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Speaker 2: things are worse now then they were since the sixties,
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Speaker 2: we'll just go to that point. I think that if
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Speaker 2: you are from a racial sense, if you've been voting
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Speaker 2: for a Democrat party to make things better and them
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Speaker 2: telling you we're going to make it better, and then
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Speaker 2: they haven't made it better and they've made it worse,
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Speaker 2: it's worse with them being your trusted party, maybe you
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Speaker 2: should trust the other side. Maybe you should start looking
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Speaker 2: to that. Maybe you should take into consideration the fact
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Speaker 2: that those are the same people telling you it's worse now.
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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of people who think it's worse,
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Speaker 2: to be completely honest, I don't. I don't know a
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Speaker 2: lot of people who side with them on this. So
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Speaker 2: the black people in my life are not going to
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Speaker 2: tell you that it's worse now than it was in
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Speaker 2: the sixties and back. Some people are arguing this the
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Speaker 2: worst it's ever been, which is a very bold statement
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Speaker 2: and it's also very untrue, and you don't have to
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Speaker 2: go deep into the history book to find that. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: so we're coming out of this particular weekend as Don Lemon.
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Speaker 2: And the only reason race comes up in this is
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Speaker 2: because Don Lemon has made it this. So he was
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Speaker 2: on CNN. He said some offensive things. He said some
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Speaker 2: offensive things about women, one woman in particular, but it
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Speaker 2: was about women in general. When you say that women
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Speaker 2: in their fifties are past their prime and these kinds
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Speaker 2: of things. And that's the kind of stuff that he
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Speaker 2: said on TV in front of God and everyone. He
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Speaker 2: ended up losing his job at CNN, and he got
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Speaker 2: a job I guess he was gonna be partnering with
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk. That was the idea, let's get some people
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Speaker 2: in this on X and these threads and come in
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Speaker 2: and approach journalism from that standpoint. And right out of
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Speaker 2: the gate he interviews Elon Musk, he says a bunch
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Speaker 2: of things that Elon Musk says, those aren't that's not true.
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Speaker 2: You're just not telling the truth. Puts him in his
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Speaker 2: place very quickly. And then suddenly Don Lemon's out of
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Speaker 2: a job there too. So he just goes on and
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Speaker 2: becomes this independent journalist, which is fine. I'm not knocking
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Speaker 2: independent journalists at all. However, it's the independent journalists as
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Speaker 2: we have discussed now for a few months. That are
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Speaker 2: the people who are saying, well, I got to get
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Speaker 2: out there and make a name for myself, and how
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Speaker 2: am I going to do that. I'm gonna do controversial things.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do things that are gonna get people a
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Speaker 2: little uncomfortable. I'm gonna say things. I'm gonna make accusations,
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Speaker 2: these little, thinly veiled accusations, and in some case outrights
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Speaker 2: say it. And there's people who worked with large organizations
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Speaker 2: who went off on their own and decided I am
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Speaker 2: going to really stir the pot on these things. One
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Speaker 2: of them Candae Owens, one of them Tucker Carlson. Don
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Speaker 2: Lemon is in the same boat. So what did he
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Speaker 2: do this weekend? Well, he followed around I guess up
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Speaker 2: an ice protest group that decided they were going to
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Speaker 2: go into a church in Saint Paul. Yeah, just stormed in.
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Speaker 2: I guess as they're getting ready to have their service,
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Speaker 2: and this group of demonstrators decided that they didn't want
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Speaker 2: to let this city's church like have their service. And
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Speaker 2: he was saying that they have a freedom to protest,
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Speaker 2: and that's what the First Amendment's all about. That's what
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Speaker 2: he said. He has a freedom to protest inside a
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Speaker 2: church while they're trying to have their Sunday service, interrupting
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Speaker 2: and preventing them their right to practice their religion. I
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Speaker 2: don't know that he really is a First amendmentologist. I
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Speaker 2: don't know that he really gets it. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he cares. To be honest. He says
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Speaker 2: that he wasn't part of this group, that he was
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Speaker 2: just covering the whole thing, and you know, made accusations
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Speaker 2: about what ICE is doing, that they're detaining people because
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Speaker 2: of their accents and the color of their skin. These
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Speaker 2: are his words, targeting people of color, black people, brown people,
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Speaker 2: and that there's a certain degree of racism there with
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Speaker 2: what they're doing it. And then he also says that
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Speaker 2: there's entitlement from churches, like the members of Cities Church
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Speaker 2: who didn't want them in there. He said, I think
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Speaker 2: people who are you know, in the religious groups that like,
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Speaker 2: it's not the type of Christianity that I practice. By
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Speaker 2: the way, while he was talking to the pastor of
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Speaker 2: the church who was trying to have his service, he
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Speaker 2: kept telling them that he was a Christian. He says,
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Speaker 2: it's not type of Christianity I practice, but I think
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Speaker 2: that they're entitled, and that entitlement comes from a supremacy,
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Speaker 2: a white supremacy. It's all the code words, it's all
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Speaker 2: of the magic code words that come out from these things.
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Speaker 2: He says, how did I become the face of this?
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Speaker 2: And he says, my producer said, don you're a gay
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Speaker 2: black man in America and you have a platform, and
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Speaker 2: you're the biggest name. Of course you're going he is
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Speaker 2: not the biggest name, by the way, of course, you're
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Speaker 2: going to be the person that they single out and
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Speaker 2: they're going to make the headline because it plays to
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Speaker 2: their base, and the base is full of racist, bigoted homophobes.
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Speaker 2: This is what he says. His producer told him so basically,
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Speaker 2: they he was live streaming all of this. Of course,
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Speaker 2: this is all backlash and following the well, let's be honest,
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Speaker 2: the backlash and the protesting only got worse after the
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Speaker 2: shooting of Rene Nicole Good. It didn't start because of her,
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Speaker 2: it got worse. The professional agitators came in at that point.
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Speaker 2: Now you could say that people that are being paid
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Speaker 2: to protest eighty to one hundred thousand dollars in some
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Speaker 2: case to be the ones instigating and I guess showing
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Speaker 2: up with the picket signs and the T shirts and
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Speaker 2: Molotov cocktails and bricks or whatever through the other protests
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Speaker 2: in the past, and there have been reports of people
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Speaker 2: showing up with the vanloads of merch for these as well.
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Speaker 2: So you can say that there are professional agitators. Well,
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Speaker 2: if Don Lemon is getting paid to follow these people
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Speaker 2: around and actively be part like trying to interview the
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Speaker 2: pastor of the church, that also makes him a professional agitator.
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Speaker 2: Now I realize this is what he wants, This is
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Speaker 2: what he thinks is best for his career. This is
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Speaker 2: like what Candice Owens has been doing. This is like
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Speaker 2: what Tucker Carlson's been doing. You say and do things
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Speaker 2: that will get people worked up. You say and do
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Speaker 2: things that will and believe me, as I have pointed out, man,
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Speaker 2: all three of these people have bigger followings than I do.
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Speaker 2: I would not stoop to any of this to be
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Speaker 2: where they are. It's on principle that's not where I am,
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Speaker 2: and I don't. I have no no interest in that.
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Speaker 2: I have no interest at all in stooping to those
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Speaker 2: things for whatever it is they're stooping to selling their souls.
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Speaker 2: I just don't. Now you can say all three of
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Speaker 2: these people think that they're pursuing the truth, and they
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Speaker 2: have every right to do that if that's what they
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Speaker 2: want to do. Well, you don't have a right to do, though,
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Speaker 2: is interrupt church service. That's not public property. You can't
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Speaker 2: just walk into a church like you own the place.
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Speaker 2: You can't. You can be trespassed. And here's the other thing.
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Speaker 2: Don Lemon is not there for the purposes of being
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Speaker 2: a journalist, as he says, because he got involved. Once
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Speaker 2: you get involved and you're actively part of preventing the
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Speaker 2: church service from happening. Don Lemon wants to get arrested.
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Speaker 2: He's been put on alert by the Justice Department. They're
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Speaker 2: telling him, and this is what he wants. He thinks,
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Speaker 2: if he screams racism, if he thinks if he screams homophobia,
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Speaker 2: bigotry and all these things and white supremacy, this is
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Speaker 2: the go to. It's the automatic. White supremacy is the
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Speaker 2: reason for all of our woes. And he thinks if
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Speaker 2: he gets arrested, that's going to somehow boost his profile.
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Speaker 2: And it might certainly did for Trump. That backfired a
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Speaker 2: big way, didn't it arrest the guy thinking you're going
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Speaker 2: to put an end to him, and then suddenly he's
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Speaker 2: the president again and people are screaming he's going to
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Speaker 2: try to punish people and go after them with political power. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's what happened to him. You can't sit back and
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Speaker 2: accuse the other side of doing the thing that you've
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Speaker 2: already been doing. I mean you can. You're not going
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Speaker 2: to win the argument. You're not going to win the
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Speaker 2: day because in the end you look foolish. You should.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people on the left don't know the difference.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people on the left don't know what's
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Speaker 2: going on with Greenland. They don't understand there's more to
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Speaker 2: Greenland than what it seems from a world security from
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Speaker 2: a US now national security standpoint. We're not doing that today.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to all that, I'm sure later on. But
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Speaker 2: the reality here with people like Don lemen who are
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Speaker 2: just trying to get people to talk, and here we are,
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Speaker 2: we're talking about him. My concern is churches have been
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Speaker 2: under attack, Churches have been put through the ringer. Churches
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Speaker 2: are under attack. And the reason churches are under attack
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Speaker 2: and I maintain this is you have people on the left,
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Speaker 2: you have people like Don Lemon, you have politicians especially.
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Speaker 2: They don't want you to turn to the church when
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Speaker 2: you need help. They want you to turn to the
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Speaker 2: politicians because they can continue to provide for you as
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Speaker 2: long as you keep them in power. If you accept
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Speaker 2: things from your church, which is where it should be,
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Speaker 2: coming from your neighbors, your church, there's no political benefit
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Speaker 2: to them. And that's the reality. So this is just
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Speaker 2: yet another attack on a church, on a Christian church
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Speaker 2: now in Saint Paul, and you've got a hack trying
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Speaker 2: to get attention from it, doing everything you can to
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Speaker 2: in Dallas to provide barbecue on some of their flights.
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Speaker 2: Beginning next month, passengers on certain flights from Dallas to
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Speaker 2: New York will be able to skip the usual airline
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Speaker 2: food and dive into a barbecue platter with brisket, smoked sausage,
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Speaker 2: and macaroni and cheese. The meats prepared at the actual
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Speaker 2: Pecan Lodge facilities before being delivered to the runway, ensuring
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Speaker 2: travelers get authentic smoky taste of Texas while cruising over
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Speaker 2: the clouds. That's how they put it. I mean it's
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Speaker 2: a selling point. I don't know if it would make
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Speaker 2: me think I'm gonna choose this airline over another airline,
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Speaker 2: but I guess if it's a tie on all counts,
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Speaker 2: if you're saying, well, it's the same price, it's about
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Speaker 2: the same flight times, and one of them is gonna
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Speaker 2: have this what sounds delicious meats and macaroni and cheese.
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Speaker 2: I'm in I just don't know if it was a
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Speaker 2: price it was half that, especially if you've already been
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Speaker 2: in Dallas, or you know this is from Dallas too,
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Speaker 2: New York, so it's not a bad plan. Then maybe
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Speaker 2: if they've never had it before, they go, well, I
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Speaker 2: guess I need to go there when I get back.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. According to a new study, body fat
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Speaker 2: percentage and BMI are actually more important than muscle size
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Speaker 2: when it comes to male attractiveness. Yeah go figure. Researchers
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Speaker 2: found that participants consistently preferred a lean, healthy look over
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Speaker 2: big time bulk. They concluded that the ideal body fat
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Speaker 2: ranges between twelve and fifteen percent, while ideal BMIs between
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Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty seven. It seems these levels of
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Speaker 2: fat and muscle end up being a biological signal for
23:39
Speaker 2: strong genetics and overall health. How about that? Who would
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Speaker 2: have ever guessed? And I thought here, I was thinking
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Speaker 2: we were in this society, in this world. Now that
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Speaker 2: says big is beautiful. You know, you be you and
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Speaker 2: be beautiful just like you are. Don't make changes. They're
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Speaker 2: running ads. I saw on it on TV where a
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Speaker 2: guy's telling people leave him alone about his body, And
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Speaker 2: I mean I think that's fair. But now we're telling everybody, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: not so fast, big boy got to get that uh,
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Speaker 2: you gotta get that body fat and BMI down rather
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Speaker 2: than trying to bulk up. Now, that's the thing. If
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Speaker 2: you put on muscle, you're gonna get some of that
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Speaker 2: BMI down, right, You're gonna get that body fat percentage
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Speaker 2: down while you're putting on muscle. It kind of goes
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Speaker 2: hand in hand a little bit, right, I mean, maybe
24:26
Speaker 2: not exactly all right, Well, just in time for NFL playoffs,
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Speaker 2: Nintendo made Madden NFL twenty six free to play for
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Speaker 2: Switch online members through January twenty first. That's through tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: not just a demo, the full game and your progress
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Speaker 2: will carry over if you decide to buy it later
24:48
Speaker 2: if you do want to keep it. The online version
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Speaker 2: of the game discounted sixty percent through January twenty fifth,
24:56
Speaker 2: So you got, like, you know, the week right and
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Speaker 2: until tomorrow to give it a shot, give it a try,
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Speaker 2: see if you want it. Maybe you want to own it,
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Speaker 2: maybe you don't. I don't know. And it's fun. I
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Speaker 2: like the Madden games, sir, pretty good. I haven't played
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Speaker 2: it on the Switch though, I haven't done that so
25:17
Speaker 2: and finally took a while, but Lego officially teamed up
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Speaker 2: with Nintendo and Pokemon Company to release first ever Pokemon sets,
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Speaker 2: perfectly timed for the franchise's thirtieth anniversary next month. And
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Speaker 2: the sets no joke, six hundred pieces to about sixty
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Speaker 2: eight hundred pieces or the ranges. Prices are also really high,
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Speaker 2: small sets going for sixty bucks, the starter Trio priced
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Speaker 2: at six hundred and fifty dollars. Pre Orders going on
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Speaker 2: now until the official February twenty seventh release date. So
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Speaker 2: Pokemon and Lego or your thing, there you go. That'll
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Speaker 2: do it for this Tuesday edition of the show. Thanks
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Speaker 2: to our SPA answers and patrons. Thank you for listening.
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