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From Slime to Stay Puft: Why Ghostbusters Still Works · Have You Seen?! The Movie Podcast

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  Joe: What they do with that too is the bag's setting there with the eggs.
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  Dylan: Yeah.
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  Joe: But as the eggs are cracking and all that, it's zooming into that logo.
• 0:08
  Joe: It's zooming into that bag too.
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  Dylan: Oh, welcome to Have You Seen the Movie Podcast, where every movie is a premiere.
• 0:38
  Joe: This week we're crossing the streams and diving into the movie that made ghosts funny.
• 0:43
  Joe: Ghostbusters.
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  Dylan: This week's movie, Ghostbusters, is Rated PG.
• 0:48
  Dylan: If you're not ready for some slime screams and serious proton-packed power, maybe tune in next week.
• 0:54
  Dylan: Pretty much the only thing that I like solidly would remember just even before watching the movie is definitely like the iconic logo from going into Universals, you know, definitely the firehouse.
• 1:08
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 1:09
  Dylan: And then also the song.
• 1:12
  Dylan: Because I, you know, you can't you can't go anywhere and not hear that song.
• 1:18
  Joe: Yeah.
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  Joe: Any Halloween party that you're gonna go to, you're gonna hear it.
• 1:22
  Joe: If you're going to an 80s party, you're gonna hear it.
• 1:24
  Joe: Right.
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  Joe: Uh it's probably one of the most iconic.
• 1:28
  Joe: When we get there, I'll explain a little more about the song.
• 1:31
  Dylan: Okay.
• 1:32
  Joe: Three out-of-work scientists start a get ghost catching business and accidentally become New York's last hope against a giant marshmallow good.
• 1:44
  Dylan: So were did you watch this movie like when it first came out?
• 1:48
  Joe: Um, I may have.
• 1:50
  Joe: I don't remember watching it at the theater, but we would go to the theater a lot, and that was pretty much the only option at the time.
• 1:58
  Joe: Yeah.
• 1:58
  Joe: Um, I remember it was, you know, a huge cultural thing, you know.
• 2:06
  Joe: Yeah.
• 2:06
  Joe: It was just, yeah, it was everywhere, the song was everywhere.
• 2:10
  Joe: Um, I mean, it was a good time for music anyway.
• 2:13
  Joe: Right.
• 2:14
  Joe: Um, my my biggest memory of that was my aunt would take me to um the bookstore with her, and she was an avid reader.
• 2:25
  Joe: Yeah.
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  Joe: So I'd go and you know, look at look at different books and kids' books and stuff like that.
• 2:31
  Joe: And I remember her buying me the Ghostbusters picture book.
• 2:35
  Joe: And and it came with stickers and uh, you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 2:42
  Joe: And it was basically, you know, a paraphrase of the whole movie.
• 2:45
  Joe: So but it had like really good pictures.
• 2:47
  Joe: I wish I I had it.
• 2:49
  Joe: I mean, my mom's might have it somewhere, but yeah, it was really cool.
• 2:52
  Joe: And I remember that being kind of a uh what do you call it?
• 2:57
  Joe: The uh inside out uh core memory.
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  Joe: Yeah, it's a core memory.
• 3:02
  Joe: It's a core memory.
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  Joe: Because I remember sitting on the floor in the bookstore in the corner looking at it.
• 3:07
  Joe: Oh, really?
• 3:07
  Joe: She was like, You you know, do you want me to buy you that like kind of thing?
• 3:11
  Joe: And I was like, Yeah, you know, so I can't.
• 3:12
  Joe: That's awesome.
• 3:14
  Dylan: So that's so cute.
• 3:16
  Dylan: Yeah.
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  Dylan: So do you still feel like the movie holds up as well as it did?
• 3:21
  Joe: I think so.
• 3:22
  Joe: You know, um, there are obviously some uh Spielberg talked about this.
• 3:29
  Joe: Um you never want to go back on what you did, you know, you never want to go back and kind of like what Lucas did, and he he redid, you know, a lot of Star Wars effects and and you know, that kind of stuff.
• 3:43
  Joe: Right.
• 3:44
  Joe: And you never want to go back and fix that, but you know, there are some pop-out things that because they used animation and they used um uh paintings on glass to make the buildings look bigger, or uh the whole you know, the buildings on there were uh you know extended in the sky or things like that.
• 4:07
  Joe: Yeah.
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  Joe: And it there subtle things were especially in the 4K, that's what we watch today.
• 4:12
  Joe: Um, you could see it more.
• 4:14
  Joe: It's like the better the resolution, the more you could see things stand out.
• 4:18
  Joe: Right, you know, and it's almost working backwards in a way, you know.
• 4:24
  Dylan: Yeah, so yeah, I think like out of that, like the biggest thing that I noticed out of all of it, and that I even comment commented to you like in the time was the the dogs, like when they were like really, you know, running for lack of a better term, like it showed so much in the CGI, yeah.
• 4:48
  Joe: And you know, it was a mix of practical effects and it was a mix of, you know, um animation.
• 4:55
  Joe: Yeah, you know, so it it was you know hand drawn and all that, and then so you could see when the beast is, you know, like so there's that point where I'm trying to remember his name, Rick Moranis is running a around the city, yeah, and you see the you know the the statue running after him, and so you see him running, and then it it looks animated, but then when it's at a standstill, it's this beasty, big, huge, burly, you know.
• 5:27
  Joe: It's like if they could only have figured out how to make them run in in real life and get real lighting and and all that, but there's just a little bit of you know that so all those were like hand-drawn?
• 5:40
  Joe: From what I from what I've heard, yeah.
• 5:42
  Joe: Really?
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  Joe: Yeah, because the they're the first CG in a movie was um uh I can't remember what it's called, but it basically there's a scene where there's a uh stained glass window and it's of a a night, and the night pops out of the stained glass and becomes this like uh yeah, yeah.
• 6:06
  Joe: And that and I can't remember all the facts of when it happened.
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  Dylan: I can look it up while we're talking, but um, that was the first CG, and and then even in Tron there was a little bit of CG, but right, because Tron, I was I was reading the other day that Tron was like the first like big use of it of computer generated, yeah, and um it would it lost out on like awards and stuff because they what was it it because they didn't know like how to categorize it?
• 6:42
  Dylan: Categorize it, yeah.
• 6:44
  Dylan: And so like with how kind of big the first Tron was and it lost out on those awards, kind of crazy, yeah.
• 6:56
  Joe: So as far as uh comparison of or expectations of horror versus comedy, how how much do you feel like you what was met?
• 7:07
  Dylan: I feel like the like the opening part of it with the librarian like was a lot scarier than the rest of the like yeah, it was honestly one of the most scariest parts in the whole movie, but then um like later on, like Slimer was that was just funny, and with like going back to like the opening with the librarian and stuff, even when they go back to the library and the Ghostbusters like start to hunt down the librarian, then it like the the pop out of like the scary face that you know made them all run out of the building screaming, yeah.
• 7:55
  Dylan: That was funny, yeah.
• 7:57
  Joe: Yeah, and that that I think I talked about it oh one of one of the previous ones, but that original um uh shot or that original um makeup effect was was actually supposed to be scarier and it ended up in in the movie Fright Night.
• 8:16
  Joe: Oh yeah, yeah, because um so there was like more more mangly teeth and it was more demonic and it's really it was just way more intense, and so they changed it to be what it was, yeah.
• 8:29
  Joe: Because uh, and then in the movie Fright Night, uh there's a scene where the girlfriend changes into a vampire.
• 8:37
  Joe: Spoiler alert, and uh that was the effect that they were originally gonna use in in Ghostbusters, um, which is kind of a cool um crossover kind of thing, yeah.
• 8:49
  Joe: Uh pretty cool, cool throwback to it.
• 8:52
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 8:53
  Dylan: That's that's really interesting because the like having the if that were to be like that super scary, and then have the rest of the movie like it definitely leans towards the like paranormal comedy side of it, yeah, than like the paranormal horror side of it.
• 9:19
  Dylan: That's a big difference, yeah.
• 9:22
  Dylan: And so that would definitely kind of be almost like a jarring turn, like for the movie, yeah, is that like you watch it and you're you're thinking, okay, this is how all of the ghost interactions are going to be.
• 9:37
  Dylan: Like, I'm gonna have to prepare myself, yeah.
• 9:40
  Dylan: And then, you know, just a not too much longer later, um, they're chasing around uh, you know, the the slimer in the hotel who's just eating everything.
• 9:51
  Dylan: Yeah, right.
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  Joe: Yeah.
• 9:56
  Joe: Um yeah, and I guess they they referred to that as the John Belushi um uh uh what did they call it?
• 10:05
  Joe: The John Belushi ghost because uh so they do they they made it to look as like a tribute to John Belushi because in the movie Animal House um he ate a lot of food and he was like pigging out and and stuff like that.
• 10:20
  Joe: So they kind of wanted that tribute to John Belushi because he had passed like before the movie had started.
• 10:28
  Joe: Yeah.
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  Joe: And so they they wanted to make it a tribute to him.
• 10:31
  Joe: Oh, interesting.
• 10:35
  Dylan: Yeah, and it's funny too, like with like Bill Murray as Venckman, like the just the just the deadpan that he like what he would you say, like performs the lines with, yeah.
• 10:51
  Dylan: Like just the deadpan of that, yeah.
• 10:54
  Dylan: Like it's like supposed to be this like funny line, and he's just so monotone about it.
• 11:01
  Dylan: Right.
• 11:02
  Joe: Yeah, he's so he's such a his monologue in the in the um the mayor's office is so great because he starts to like you know, he's um she calls him uh a uh TV show host or something like that.
• 11:22
  Joe: Yeah.
• 11:23
  Joe: And and but he's more like a used car salesman when he gets in there and he starts to sell it, and it's almost like he's the way it's written and the way, you know, I guess I heard that he he had ad-libbed most of his lines anyway.
• 11:37
  Joe: Oh really?
• 11:37
  Joe: So yeah, so all the like anything that was written, he would just ad-lib and embellish on what was written.
• 11:46
  Joe: Yeah, and so you just in that in that scene, you could just see it in his eyes and and just things changing around to where you know he's he's selling this to the mayor, like, hey, you know, at first it's like trying to get out of the hole that they're in, but then he turns it around and it's just like, hey, you're gonna be the savior of the city, you know, and even the cardinal or whatever that guy was was like nodding, like, yeah, like I see where you're going with this, right?
• 12:16
  Joe: So um that character was actually originally written for John Belushi, but he passed before the movie could could uh so he's Jake in um Blues Brothers.
• 12:28
  Joe: So in the Blues Brothers, there's Jake in Elwood, which is Dan Aykroyd, and John Belushi.
• 12:33
  Joe: And um, and he and John Belushi played Jake in the Blues Brothers.
• 12:38
  Joe: So it was supposed to be a movie done after the Blues Brothers, yeah, that they were trying to uh Dan Aykroyd originally came up with.
• 12:47
  Joe: Um, and Dan Aykroyd had the idea of like paranormal because he studied the paranormal and and his family had like all this all these books and things like that of of the paranormal.
• 12:58
  Joe: So he always had an obsession with it.
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  Joe: Yeah.
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  Joe: Um, but there was an original movie called The Ghostbusters that um was like, I don't know, in the 40s or something like that.
• 13:08
  Joe: Uh this isn't this isn't content for perfect history of his thing.
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  Joe: But it was based on that and kind of wanted to be slapstick, but also wanted to be, you know, that that paranormal, like slapstick funny.
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  Joe: So um, yeah, he his his character was originally gonna be John Belushi, uh, the actor John Belushi.
• 13:33
  Joe: Um and then Dan Aykroyd and Hara Ramus in it.
• 13:39
  Dylan: Um definitely the the the perfect like geek duos.
• 13:44
  Dylan: Yeah, they are.
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  Joe: And and one is what I like about Ray Dan Aykroyd is that he has this like innocence about him and this this kind of purity, yeah, of like he's just uh he's just he's like he's just a believer, you know.
• 14:00
  Joe: Like he just he just knows that this is happening, and like you know uh Pete uh Peter and um Bankman are down trying to haggle with the salesperson, and all he's worried is like, have you seen this poll?
• 14:17
  Joe: You guys try this fireball then you guys gotta try this, you know.
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  Joe: Yep, and so she's gonna be a little bit more.
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  Joe: Right, right.
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  Dylan: She had him at that point.
• 14:28
  Dylan: She was like, Well, you're taking it regardless.
• 14:30
  Joe: Yeah, he goes and gets the Ecto one and he's all happy.
• 14:34
  Joe: And yeah, you know, like Peter's like, Oh man, you're spending all this money, you know, $4,500.
• 14:39
  Joe: Like, that was a lot for that time.
• 14:41
  Joe: Yeah.
• 14:42
  Joe: For a wrecked up car.
• 14:43
  Dylan: I was gonna say uh every everything on it needed to be repaired.
• 14:47
  Dylan: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:49
  Joe: I don't know if I would pay forty five dollars forty five hundred dollars now for that in that condition, you know.
• 14:56
  Joe: Maybe I would because of what the car is, but I think we have ghosts in here right now.
• 15:03
  Dylan: I think so.
• 15:04
  Dylan: But yeah, with with um with how that car is too, like it's such an icon of the whole franchise as well.
• 15:15
  Dylan: And like you definitely like recognize it whenever you walk around and stuff, yeah.
• 15:24
  Joe: Um living in California, I worked in Chatsworth and I used to drive by a place where there's actually a DeLorean dealership, yeah.
• 15:36
  Joe: And then there was another place that had star cars there, and I would see the Ecto one there all the time.
• 15:42
  Joe: Oh, it was totally cool.
• 15:44
  Joe: Like, yeah, living out there, you could see things that you just it's like okay, there's an Ecto one.
• 15:51
  Joe: Right where I went to college down the road, there was a uh filming like uh Western uh filming place, yeah, and the owner owned a General Lee from uh uh Dukes at Hazard.
• 16:07
  Joe: So you'd be at school, and then all of a sudden you just see a General Lee driving down the road, you know?
• 16:12
  Joe: It's like okay, all these iconic cars, just you know, daily drivers.
• 16:17
  Joe: Yeah, who does that, you know?
• 16:19
  Dylan: That's so funny.
• 16:21
  Joe: But yeah, it Ecto 1 is definitely iconic.
• 16:24
  Joe: I mean, there's so many parts and pieces to to put on there that it takes a lot to put together.
• 16:30
  Joe: I mean, that's a character in the movie in itself.
• 16:32
  Joe: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:35
  Dylan: It's so funny that like the the EPA is like kind of the the bad guy movie environmental protection, right?
• 16:47
  Dylan: Yeah, and like he's definitely he's definitely just a punchable villain, yeah.
• 16:55
  Joe: Like yeah, I guess whenever he would walk around New York, people would yell at him and and really, yeah, um and yell profanities and refer to the movie.
• 17:08
  Joe: I'm not gonna say it, but of what they called him in it.
• 17:12
  Joe: Um, so it was kind of hard hard for him to walk around New York.
• 17:16
  Joe: Um but with uh Sigourney Weaver, it was such a good chance for her to get into a comedy because she had done nothing but like straight roles and serious roles.
• 17:31
  Joe: But you know, sorry Jennifer Lawrence, but she is Sigourney Weaver is one of the first uh lead female action heroes uh you know in film.
• 17:45
  Joe: Like she because she was she was an alien in aliens first.
• 17:49
  Joe: Oh yeah, so she was an alien before this, and you know, she kicked butt, you know.
• 17:56
  Joe: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Joe: So like um, yeah, so for her to get a part in as a damsel in distress is just you know a different different uh kind of different role for her, but she was pretty awesome.
• 18:10
  Joe: I mean, she she played kind of the like if you looked at the old, I don't know, even if you looked at um the three stooges, there was sometimes someone in the mix that was the straight role, and so you have these bumbling dudes, and then you have this right kind of the you know, and and she was that for you know for them.
• 18:30
  Joe: Like she was the serious like, hey guys, let's get it together, you know.
• 18:36
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Dylan: Well, and like throughout like the movie overall, like the with like the trying to blend the comedy and paranormal, it definitely like starts off super trying, like trying to be more paranormal horror, and then I've like I feel like after the kind of the library scene, everything that's when it shifts into just more of the comedy stuff, and I feel like with me, I felt like that was pretty noticeable, uh-huh.
• 19:14
  Dylan: Like watching it, is that it was trying to be this darker, scarier, and then all of a sudden, you know, they're running screaming out of the library, yeah, and then that's when everything just shifts.
• 19:28
  Joe: Yeah, and it yeah, it's funny how they they kind of um they do that, they kind of build it that way.
• 19:36
  Joe: But you know, the the at the core of it, it is the hey, we're building a business here, and so they kind of show like, you know, if you're building a business, the ins and outs that you go through when you're you are building a business, because like, hey, I haven't done, you know, like I I had a carpet cleaning business, like, okay, I don't know what problems I'm gonna I'm gonna run into, yeah, but I gotta prepare for all this and I just gotta act on the fly.
• 20:02
  Joe: And so it's hilarious when they're you know, they're in they're in that first scene and they're just like, what do we do?
• 20:08
  Joe: I don't know.
• 20:09
  Joe: And then he's like, follow me, guys, just just do what I do, and they're like, okay, you know, yeah, they did her.
• 20:18
  Dylan: They definitely do a good job of that throughout the whole movie.
• 20:21
  Dylan: Of in the in the like beginning of it, is they're trying to just figure things out as they go, and it shows throughout the movie of when they're going into a place becoming more professional, if you will, because I don't think confidence, right?
• 20:39
  Dylan: Confidence, that's what it is, because it's not professionalism.
• 20:42
  Dylan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:44
  Joe: Finkman is not the most professional.
• 20:46
  Dylan: No, and it it was so funny, like when after the meeting with the mayor, and he knew he he had it, and just the show boating to the crowd before.
• 20:57
  Joe: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Joe: It's so but the cool thing too is like they show Dana and she's you know, she's watching them grow, and she's you know, they show her working out and watching TV, and there's different ads that come up, and they show the montage of of newspapers, and and she it seems like she's getting more attracted to Peter because of it, because it's like, oh, he's like a rock star.
• 21:18
  Joe: Yeah, this is not what I expected.
• 21:21
  Joe: And uh, and so like, yeah, so it does show like it it's that confidence building, especially when you start to run your business and you know what you're doing and you have a regular rhythm.
• 21:33
  Joe: Any profession, you're just like you start off going, oh what you know, what what do I need to know?
• 21:39
  Joe: And even though you've been educated in this field or you have an idea, it's not until you hit that that pavement that you start to get your groove, and you know, it's just yeah, so it it's a good especially on that side of things, like just it's good.
• 21:58
  Joe: Um you know, and then they have to uh they get so many uh so much work that they have to add employees, they add the secretary, and um, and then the Ernie Hudson character comes in, and he was originally written for um for Eddie Murphy.
• 22:17
  Dylan: Uh oh really, yeah, okay.
• 22:19
  Dylan: I could definitely see that.
• 22:21
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Dylan: But he's definitely the the unsung unsung hero of the group right there.
• 22:27
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 22:28
  Joe: But you know, I I feel like his character is really good at at being the the audience in some ways, because you kind of you're this person that's jumping in and then taking a ride, and then he's he's speaking like, hey, you know, when he tells the mayor, he's like, Hey, I I've seen some stuff that that'll turn you white, right?
• 22:54
  Joe: That's like the best, one of the best lines.
• 22:57
  Joe: That whole scene for me is is is what makes that sells up for yeah.
• 23:03
  Joe: Yeah, because he's just you know, he's ready to kick butt.
• 23:08
  Joe: And you know, yeah.
• 23:10
  Dylan: Well, and even even with like when he's going in to the secretary and she's interviewing him, and he's he's talking and she's she's listening to the things like, Do you believe in these?
• 23:26
  Dylan: Yeah, he's like, I'll believe in whatever you tell me.
• 23:30
  Joe: Yeah, if it pays enough, yeah.
• 23:34
  Joe: And then they walk in and he's like looking at them, and they're just all covered in goo and whatnot.
• 23:40
  Dylan: Right.
• 23:40
  Dylan: The ecdote.
• 23:41
  Joe: Like, all right, you're hired.
• 23:44
  Dylan: Right, go help him, go help him with this.
• 23:46
  Joe: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Dylan: So and the so going back to touching on the score and the theme song, like it's such a uh huge still is a huge like pop culture kind of big player, especially around like Halloween and stuff, right?
• 24:10
  Joe: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Joe: So that song, um I guess he wrote it, so um you know, he was a he was a big writer of other songs, and he had other bands and things like that.
• 24:24
  Joe: Um so Ray Parker Jr.
• 24:27
  Joe: is his name, and he had a band called Radio, like R-A-Y-D-O, you know, radio, and then he went on his own and was doing just music on his own and things like that.
• 24:38
  Joe: And so he he was he was a well-known name before that.
• 24:42
  Joe: Um, but he had like not very long to write this song, and he was inspired by watching TV.
• 24:51
  Joe: And at night, you'd have these in you know, infomercials or commercials on, you know, from uh you know, bug company plumbing you know, on all that stuff.
• 25:02
  Joe: Hey, call this number, you know.
• 25:04
  Joe: And so that there was something that said who you're gonna call.
• 25:07
  Joe: And so from that, he he started to write, you know, okay, the story of of the Ghostbusters and you know, all that kind of, you know, and so he he wanted that, like if you if you were writing a jingle for a for a commercial, and so that it it has that, you know, if there's something strange in the neighborhood, who are you gonna call?
• 25:30
  Joe: Right.
• 25:31
  Joe: Um, I mean you can think of think of other ads that are like that that are kind of like stick in your brain, um, plumbing or heating, or you know, all those other, and so that's kind of where he was going.
• 25:44
  Joe: The problem was that he may have unknowingly uh stole the rhythm and backtrack to another song.
• 25:55
  Joe: Oh, yeah.
• 25:56
  Joe: So there's a call, the song called uh Want a New Drug, I Want a New Drug from Huey Lewis in the news.
• 26:03
  Joe: Okay, and it has the same exact uh da da da da da da and it kind of like kind of stuff behind it.
• 26:10
  Joe: And you can compare them and they're pretty close.
• 26:13
  Joe: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Joe: So they there was um a lawsuit that happened in the 80s, and they basically said, Okay, we're gonna settle, but the the deal is like we can't talk about it, or you can't talk about how the case was, you know, settled or whatever.
• 26:29
  Joe: And so, like, long long story short, what ended up happening is like on VH1, they were doing these like um behind the music kind of things, and they got to Huey Lewis in the news, and he kind of accidentally divulged the the stuff of the case.
• 26:47
  Joe: So then, like, I guess Ray Parker Jr.
• 26:50
  Joe: ended up getting more money from it because um they they weren't supposed to talk about it, so there was this like there was this like you you weren't supposed to talk about the case or how much you made or blah blah blah, and so like because Huey Lewis talked about it, yeah, he breached the contract, and and then Ray Parker Jr.
• 27:08
  Joe: ended up getting getting more money, but uh yeah, so that was an accidental uh you know kind of case that happened, but they both, you know, I think they're both getting money from either the original song or Ghostbusters, and yeah, you know, so and there's been a lot of um in music where uh you know Michael Jackson uh told uh Hollow Notes that he stole the bass line from um from one of their songs for like beat it or something, and and they're like, Okay, you know, yeah, they're just like we don't hear it, but that's fine, you know.
• 27:49
  Joe: That's funny.
• 27:49
  Joe: They're like, Well, we don't recognize that, but if you say so, if you say so, yeah, good for you, you know.
• 27:56
  Joe: But some other people just you know aren't that way, and we'll talk more about Hugh Lewis when we go through Back to the Future.
• 28:06
  Dylan: So do you think your favorite scene from like overall for the whole movie is in the mayor's office, that scene?
• 28:19
  Dylan: Man.
• 28:19
  Dylan: Like if you if you had to pick one scene.
• 28:24
  Joe: I think the funniest line for me is the is that you know, uh, it's gonna be it's gonna be a biblical proportions, and then you know, they're they all have their own line, and then Bill Murray's like cats and dogs sleeping together, it just always makes me laugh because it's like if you read the book of Revelation, it has all these things and it talks about the lion, the lion and the lamb and all these, you know, kind of like more uh like more uh uh you know, more of those types of things happening, but like to me, cats and dogs sleeping together, it's like that that already happens, you know.
• 29:00
  Joe: It's just funny, and like that's gonna be the you know the end times.
• 29:07
  Joe: The end times, yeah.
• 29:08
  Joe: The end times when cats and dogs are sleeping together, that's it.
• 29:12
  Joe: Yeah, so that's funny.
• 29:17
  Dylan: I would say, like, for me, it would be a toss-up between um the when the containment unit explodes.
• 29:26
  Dylan: Oh, yeah, that's a good shot.
• 29:28
  Dylan: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Dylan: And like when they you know pull back and and show it from far away, and see the you see the top of the roof exploding and all of the I was gonna say zombies, all of the ghosts, yeah, you know, come pouring out of the top of it, and you're like, hmm, this is not gonna be good.
• 29:48
  Joe: Yeah, and I I just noticed that scene, just all the explosions and the practical effects of them running out and everything.
• 29:55
  Joe: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Joe: And and Rick Moranis is so behind because he's still in character.
• 30:00
  Dylan: character right and it's like man dude you're gonna get burned you know like yeah yeah they do he definitely definitely sold that or when like the top of the building pretty much like explodes outwards with all of the the fire effects like super awesome shot like they just don't they just don't do that anymore so and I think like for me like I think when when the stay puff comes out and it just comes again from Ray's innocence yeah that's it's like it's like we we could not die from from the stay puff marshmallow man yeah because he's he's essentially like the Michelin man and the and the Pillsbury doughboy right now like right Pillsbury doughboy like you you know you you press him and he does that you know you know how could he kill anybody you know and it's just like he comes out in a rage and then he was as tall as a skyscraper.
• 31:01
  Joe: Yeah I love his face when they start you know they start going at it you know they're they're shooting him and he has this like it's like oh man or like another one of like the most iconic not iconic another one of the most like memorable memorable um scenes is when they're fighting Slimer and he he goes right through him yeah and you like panda the shot of he's like on his back can't get up it's like a turtle exactly like struggling to get up and he's like what happened he slimed me yeah he slimed me yeah it's like they I guess they said that the phrase slimer wasn't coined in the movie but I did notice that so he said he slime me yeah and that's about in that scene as much as they say but I do notice that Dan Aykroyd calls when I think it's Dan Aykroyd one of them when they're referring to what's in the chamber when he's giving um um Winston when he's giving him the lesson on how to do this yeah he he says something about there's ghosts and slimers in there and I wonder if that's where it came from I don't know for sure but I was like oh that's the first time I remember hearing that in the movie because a lot of people on that yeah a lot of people be like oh well the term slimer is not in the movie but it is I was like hey it's right there got it it's always good to watch rewatch and so yeah um the movie was originally set in the future and I and I think of it like back to the future kind of like back to future part two like you know how everything's no which you famously famously which is why we're doing this right back to the future part two there's all these futuristic things or Blade Runner kind of thing and I think the original thought of how this was going to be done was just it's gonna be futuristic so you're gonna be dropped into a world of already having um ghostbusters and and so it would be like if you were calling the fire department or you know the police right but like like these Ghostbusters are so established already like you just you're getting dropped into this world of here's what's happening as opposed to here's the start of it you know right um so is it supposed to be like just the whole thing is was supposed to be set in the future or is it like supposed to be that like the characters get you know transported to the future no it was just going to be set in the future to where there's already an established ghostbusting uh you know um business or or whatever but it but it sounded like more like it was going to be more privatized or not privatized but um like government run or something like that.
• 34:11
  Joe: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Joe: Like firefighters or you know that's kind of why they they kind of did the firefighter thing and and had you know the paramedic Ecto 1 and you know all that kind of stuff.
• 34:25
  Dylan: So how like does it say somewhere like how big the stay puffed suit actually was yeah man.
• 34:34
  Dylan: Because I noticed like in a lot of those shots like they definitely use more of a practical model for that.
• 34:43
  Dylan: And so that would yeah it's a suit.
• 34:46
  Joe: Yeah it's it's a person in a suit.
• 34:48
  Joe: Oh man and yeah it it was like lots of foam um there's a whole behind the scenes on how they built it yeah um and the what they went through to create the what was on the page to what came out really yeah huh I actually thought of making one at one point to that scale to the scale yeah to the scale because it it was just the person and and they built the you know miniatures around it but um so uh yeah it could have been could have been a normal size person I can't remember but it was definitely a suit and you know they had it so that um that's why it has the one face you know right it's almost like building um uh mascot yeah yeah that that was kind of the same idea of how they do it because usually you form things in foam right and then you cover it in in material fabric yeah whatever you want and and so that's kind of the direction they went like where the the head is just kind of a fiberglass I mean you if you watch like the mass singer now there those things are coming out every week because you know those are the same it's the same idea.
• 36:05
  Dylan: Yeah um because they it has two different heads or like you know faces for it right yeah yeah so it's not like they had to go through and and do a bunch of different faces for it but yeah you can't you know camera looks away and then when it looks back that's when it has the different you know face.
• 36:29
  Joe: Right.
• 36:30
  Joe: But they use three suits at twenty thousand dollars a piece what yeah yeah that's crazy and I bet most of it was uh you know labor because oh I'm sure because you know it's foam and fiberglass and material but then you have like the design and yeah you know it's just I love how soft it looks yeah I know I just want to squeeze it right just a big old bear hut I like how in like the earlier scene of the movie when they first meet Dana is that she has a bag yes of the stay puffed marshmallows there's so many uh there's so many setups for that there's the there's the bag in there there's a lot of ads um there on the building there's there's a oh really yeah there's there's a building where it's like up in the air and the ad is painted on to the building oh really yeah oh there's just so many little Easter eggs of of stay puff like that's great yeah because it's kind of internally getting you as like you know setting you up for that like hey I'm in this world and this is right one of the major um you know marketing ads or major products that that they have in their world um and so when it comes it's like oh yeah and that's like I think one of the first that that they show is the bag because it's not only that what they do with that too is the bag setting there with the eggs yeah but as the eggs are cracking and all that it's zooming into that logo it's zooming into that bag too oh yeah yeah that's that's good input right there because like you know you're watching the eggs and they're they're frying on the counter you know I'll take mine poached please yeah so um but yeah it's it's zooming in on the eggs and like in your head you're like oh her groceries are just there on the counter but in reality it's like oh hey look at this yeah yeah yeah just with all of the all of the merchandising for it and even like I can't even say it's revital revitalizing revitalization like with the movies that have come out more recently but yeah it I think it it's been pretty steady and yeah and like the whole the whole culture of Ghostbusters has just been consistent.
• 39:22
  Joe: Right um with Dan Aykroyd just being in different movies um there was one so I guess in the 90s they did uh Casper the friendly ghost and he does a cameo in there as Ray oh yeah he comes out he's like I'm not dealing with that he goes so there are so many things across the culture like right now I'm wearing a Ghostbuster shirt that I bought Orlando and and it's so cool that at Universal Orlando not a plug but we go because we love it um but that there's so many things uh of Ghostbusters there and they still they still have merch for Ghostbusters yeah you know and and it and there was a time when there was you know it was in the theme park and there was a show and you know obviously I I hadn't gone but I always like to visit that corner next to the mummy where the firehouse is uh like Rip Right Rocket would go through that.
• 40:26
  Joe: Right.
• 40:27
  Joe: And so and then in the back there's the whole New York scene and I guess they used to do a kind of live show right there but I always like to visit it because to me that's like the Ghostbusters corner and I think a lot of people want want that nostalgia and they want Ghostbusters back.
• 40:44
  Joe: Like they would love to it it would be awesome if they would have put like an Ecto one on the Rip ride rocket and and just made it a Ghostbusters ride you know like maybe Slimer's chasing after you and you're on the ecto or yeah that would be interesting that would be an interesting spin on it yeah but uh yeah and so from from the new movies to that I mean I have a proper or uh Halloween replica of the of the um of the proton pack of the proton pack um and uh yeah anytime I I you know I work as a custodian at school and I have my backpack vacuum on I'm just I'm just a Ghostbuster.
• 41:30
  Joe: That's it you know some crunchy ghosts there.
• 41:36
  Dylan: Yeah yeah but yeah like that's all I can think about is when I think of Ghostbusters merch and stuff as is at Universal and just seeing it everywhere and your t-shirt.
• 41:48
  Joe: And my t-shirt yeah yeah I love it um I've been meaning to get one for a long time and uh yeah finally made it happen finally made it happen but I noticed too in the in the movie with that the the ghost like logo yeah I had I noticed that they put it up on the on the building front of the building there they should have done that in in the universal yeah yeah they still should you know and I don't know if they had before but um yeah oh like back when they had the kind of this this not stage show but the street show from Ghostbusters they might have had out there I remember growing up though there were two so that original Ghostbusters movie like in the 40s for some reason the the I forget what company it was they came out with a Ghostbusters cartoon and then and then there was a Ghostbusters cartoon based on the movie and they called it the real Ghostbusters and like there was this back and forth of cartoons of like because one of them was trying to capitalize on the the Ghostbusters you know the 84 movie.
• 43:05
  Joe: Right whereas like you know they were trying to just keep pushing the 84 movie and and have a kid's show you know and that one was pretty cool because like there were other storylines and like I mean I remember one as a kid where they went to this place where things got lost and they like found socks and stuff and it was like where are we?
• 43:29
  Joe: Well you know when uh you know when you lose your socks in the dryer this is where it goes I mean just stuff like that.
• 43:37
  Joe: It was like really cool storylines and um you know other other voices and things like that.
• 43:44
  Joe: But um yeah it was it was the time and it was a good good to come home after school or Saturday mornings and watch that cartoon just yeah so Joe how many slimes out of ten would you rate this man again that's hard because I don't want to be like I'm gonna call it Dave's pizza um man well if I may I think I might I would probably say probably seven out of ten.
• 44:24
  Dylan: Okay.
• 44:24
  Dylan: You know I would not call it the best it's definitely seen some age to it now but yeah it's definitely a great way to get kids like more into like ghosts and stuff and more of the paranormal opening that door.
• 44:41
  Joe: Yeah I think I mean you know I I think it's all opinion but I think I I think I could show kids you know you know if I had kids I would show my kids this movie.
• 44:52
  Joe: Yeah you know I'd sit next to them and explain things but right you know it just I mean I watched it as a kid and I didn't turn into Peter Venckman or whatever.
• 45:01
  Joe: I'm I if I like here's a good question and I'm gonna I'll answer I'll give you my answer but you can you can think of one.
• 45:07
  Joe: If you were one of the Ghostbusters um out of Peter Ray Egon or Winston who who would you be more like um I think I need to look at the I think I need to look at the MGD so Peter is the college scientist who uh uh does the testing at the beginning who ends up with Dana but oh then Ray is is the innocent let's try the flagpole or the fire pole out uh Egon is the you know probably the smarter of all and is the you know main scientist yeah you know um and then Winston uh he comes in at uh at the midpoint and is more of the kind of everyman um I I feel like I could see myself as several different ones I think probably the main ones would either be Peter or Winston.
• 46:16
  Dylan: Okay kind of the more charismatic type.
• 46:20
  Joe: Yeah yeah yeah maybe more of a Peter but I don't know he's more of a I don't know I don't know how it I could be Lewis I'm just kidding hey guys he keeps getting locked out yeah I think uh I think I'm a Ray I I think um it's kind of like you know if we ever get to Harry Potter you know being put in a certain house you know like a Ravenclaw yeah I'm a Ray uh more of a kind of innocent you know believe believer kind of like you know this is all happening this is all you know yeah coming up with a stay puff you know that kind of thing um yeah because yeah I mean Peter's kind of a skeptic if you think about it like he's he's you know but right because he starts off the movie but not believing yeah yeah and then he he himself gets convinced uh I love that line where she's like are you sure you're using this equipment right he's like I don't know yeah when he's sitting there just just pumping the little hand thing yeah they're at the fridge just like are you sure you're using this equipment right I don't know so how is the rewatch value for you oh it's it to me it's it's like it's one of those movies you can have uh you know in the background and you can jump in at any time yeah um I I think I've watched it so much having it on like that because it it just it on cable you know it's one of those things you show up and you turn your you know you know you show up people box yeah or you're at a hotel and you turn the TV on and you know it's it's playing it's you know yeah when they just you know in October when um you're having your horror movies or your you know Halloween movies spooky season yeah spooky season it's on so yeah definitely rewatchable um and uh as far as slimes uh I think I give it an eight yeah yeah yeah it's different when you've grown up with it and it's you know part of part of your world oh please don't ever do that again all right guys well thank you so much for listening and go ahead jump into the socials and let us know what your favorite scenes are thanks for listening and uh sharing this with your friends and family and that's because that's what we're doing.
• 49:17
  Dylan: So if you have any movie suggestions definitely let us know because it's always fun to to see what people suggest for things and uh you can check the disc the description for all of the socials and links to everything.
• 49:30
  Dylan: That's all for this week and remember when somebody asks you if you're a god you say yeah