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Brian talks with Cory Bowman · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Hey, oh five. Here at fifty five kerc DE talk station,
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas swishing every one in very very happy Friday
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Speaker 1: as we head on into Mother's Day weekend. On a
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Speaker 1: happy Mother's Day at all the mom's out there, and
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Speaker 1: of course most notably my mom and of course my wife.
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Speaker 1: Without my wife, our kids will not have turned out
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Speaker 1: as great as they've turned out so far. And I
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Speaker 1: give my mom all the credit in the world. Shared
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Speaker 1: a little bit with my dad, of course, But good morning, Mom,
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Speaker 1: and happy Mother's Day. And welcome back someone who understands
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Speaker 1: Mother's Day and the value of a great wife and mother.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back Corey Boum and former Merrill Kennedy. He's a
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Speaker 1: minister over on the East End. Also has a cough
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Speaker 1: coffee shop, King's Arms Coffee. Stop on it and get
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Speaker 1: yourself a cup of Joe. Welcome back, my friend's great
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Speaker 1: having you.
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Speaker 2: On, Brian. It's always good being on a happy Mother's
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Speaker 2: Day to all the mother's out there. If my mom,
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Speaker 2: or if my mother in law, or if my wife,
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Speaker 2: which is standing right next to me are listening, Happy
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Speaker 2: Mother's Day to all them.
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Speaker 1: Well. An intelligent, smart man, you are you married out
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Speaker 1: of your league there, brother, just like I did. That's
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Speaker 1: a sign of a brilliant man. And sorry you weren't
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Speaker 1: mayor of the city.
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Speaker 2: State.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best. That's a foundation for success in life,
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Speaker 1: right there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so.
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Speaker 1: Without further ado, your reaction to the primary results, twenty
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Speaker 1: percent turnout, I think a little under twenty in the
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Speaker 1: Greater since or in downtown Cincinnati, I guess was the turnout,
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Speaker 1: But any particular race sticks out as a good result
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Speaker 1: or something disappointed at Corey Bauman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean a couple of different points that
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Speaker 2: are good, which I really am looking at the bright
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Speaker 2: side of a lot of stuff, trying to find the
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Speaker 2: good and everything. What's moving forward to one of the
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Speaker 2: biggest things, Like you said, twenty percent turnout, that's going
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Speaker 2: to be a lot more than the primaries last year.
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Speaker 2: I think last year, I don't even know if we
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Speaker 2: hit ten percent in the primaries for the city election.
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Speaker 2: So you're seeing that people are more involved in years
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Speaker 2: like this. It kind of gradually goes up. But hey,
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Speaker 2: more people involved the better. In these Republican democratic primaries,
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Speaker 2: you know a lot of times you don't see contested races,
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Speaker 2: but I did see a lot of contested races. I mean,
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Speaker 2: obviously you have your state, and you have your Congress,
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Speaker 2: and you have the things going on there. But primarily
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Speaker 2: what I saw was in the state in the county
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Speaker 2: central committees and a precinct executive, which if anybody doesn't
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Speaker 2: know what those are, that's your local kind of grassroots
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Speaker 2: party involvement right there. So you have precinct executives in
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Speaker 2: every precinct. I believe there's there were five hundred in
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Speaker 2: Hamilton County, and there was a lot more contested races
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Speaker 2: or new faces that were showing up to be precinct
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Speaker 2: executives where there were none previously. So that shows that
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Speaker 2: a lot more people are getting involved locally rather than
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Speaker 2: just watching the national politics.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that as well. And I suppose
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Speaker 1: ultimately because primaries are so critically important to getting the
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Speaker 1: best possible people in there, the fact that there's so
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Speaker 1: much more interest in those positions, the question is who
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Speaker 1: who are the people feeling it and what are their
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Speaker 1: political philosophies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're definitely seeing different groups of people get involved.
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Speaker 2: You know, people have different you know, words that they use,
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Speaker 2: whether establishment or grassroots. But Ultimately, it's just people that
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Speaker 2: want to make a difference. I kind of see it
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Speaker 2: as anybody that's willing to get into this realm. It's
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Speaker 2: either you're forced into it by people, which you know
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Speaker 2: doesn't really happen a lot, or you're you're just really
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Speaker 2: passionate about getting involved in local politics. You're seeing a
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Speaker 2: lot of people that are emphasizing, like I said, the
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Speaker 2: grassroots effort, you know, going out door to door, getting
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Speaker 2: people involved locally. And I will say this, you saw
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Speaker 2: that a lot on the Democratic side as well, a
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Speaker 2: lot of people that were already pre sift executives. They
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Speaker 2: saw contested races from there were whole organizations on the
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Speaker 2: Democratic Party side locally here in Hamilton. Tell me that
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Speaker 2: we're trying to get more people involved and get more
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Speaker 2: people that emphasize like door knocking and grassroots efforts because
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Speaker 2: they're fed up with how the city or of the
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Speaker 2: county is being run, even on their side as well.
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Speaker 2: So that's encouraging.
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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't encouraged to see the capitulation from the
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Speaker 1: Republicans on the ballot in Hamilton County that they didn't
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Speaker 1: even run people in various judicial races We've got a
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Speaker 1: problem with the judiciary in Hamilton County, the woke judges
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Speaker 1: who are not hard on crime, who allow these recidivous
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Speaker 1: individuals back on the street no bonds, and when it
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Speaker 1: comes time to sentencing after either a guilty plea or
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Speaker 1: conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, very light sentences for some
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Speaker 1: quite often heinous crimes by recidivus. That was a sorry
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Speaker 1: state of affairs from my perspective. It's just like, you know,
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Speaker 1: last person out, pull the flag, We'll bring the flag
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Speaker 1: with you, but no one willing to run for these
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Speaker 1: judicial races. Did you react in a similar way when
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Speaker 1: you saw that, Corey Bowman, Well, I.
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Speaker 2: Think I'm seeing the races where I feel what is
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Speaker 2: the most important. I'm at least seeing them, seeing contested races,
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Speaker 2: like let's talk about the Juvenile court. You know you
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Speaker 2: have Judge Bloom right now, which is going to be
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Speaker 2: going against Susan Luken. And that's probably the biggest race
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Speaker 2: that I'm pushing this year, is Judge Susan Luken. Because
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Speaker 2: of what we're seeing.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said Voelugan.
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, because the thing is is that in the
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Speaker 2: city you're seeing major problems with youth violence, kids not
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Speaker 2: being held accountable. And then even so, I was even
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Speaker 2: talking with the judge, Judge McDowell. Judge Chris McDowell is
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Speaker 2: on the ballot this year as well. Amazing man, amazing judge.
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Speaker 2: He was in my church last Sunday and as we
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Speaker 2: were talking, he said, one of the biggest issues is
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Speaker 2: that anybody that's in the court system and the judges,
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Speaker 2: they when kids that are like just turning eighteen enter
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Speaker 2: into the court system, if they see a harsh charge
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Speaker 2: from that perspective, they're shocked because if they got convicted
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Speaker 2: or if they got arrested when they were younger, the
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Speaker 2: juvenile system really doesn't hold them accountable. Yah. So we've
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Speaker 2: got to start from the young up. When that starts
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Speaker 2: with the Luke and race with the Juvenile Corps, I
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Speaker 2: would encourage everybody get involved with that. I still feel
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Speaker 2: that the judicial races are the most important in Hamilton County.
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Speaker 1: This year, Well, don't worry about it, because there's not
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Speaker 1: going to be juvenile crime this year. They've expanded the
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Speaker 1: They have the Summer in City program that they just
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Speaker 1: unveiled in the city of Cincinnata to help deal with
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Speaker 1: youth violence, which includes an expanded rec night program, So
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Speaker 1: from between five and ten pm there's all kinds of
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Speaker 1: opportunities for people to engage in sports and swim. And
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Speaker 1: I just wonder, Corey Bowman, if these rec night programs
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Speaker 1: will well stop the gang members from engaging in their
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Speaker 1: nefarious activities, because I've learned that that seems to be
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Speaker 1: a big part of the problem that they're not talking about.
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Speaker 2: No, you're right, And what happened was what I'm encouraged
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Speaker 2: by this year is that if they were just talking
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Speaker 2: about the rec programs, if they were just talking about
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Speaker 2: the community initiatives, then I would be like, oh, wow,
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Speaker 2: here we go again. It's a merrygor round of crime
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Speaker 2: and just of your soft on all these issues. That's
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Speaker 2: actually what happened last year the Act for SINSI program,
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Speaker 2: three point two million dollars went into it, and the
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Speaker 2: primary focus of it was these community initiatives like rec nights,
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Speaker 2: cleaning up trash, just doing things like that that didn't
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Speaker 2: really address crime. What I will say is that this
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Speaker 2: year these programs, even though they do involve the rect
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Speaker 2: nights for the youth, which I think are important, they
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Speaker 2: are going hand in hand with it. You watch Intern Henny,
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Speaker 2: he started mentioning that they were increasing patrols and that
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Speaker 2: they were increasing the drone program, they were intituing the curfew,
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Speaker 2: So you didn't see that last year. You only saw
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Speaker 2: people talking about that last year after July, and after
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Speaker 2: all the crime was happening and the election was looming,
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Speaker 2: so then they were forced to deal with it. But
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Speaker 2: getting ahead of the game at least more than what
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Speaker 2: they did last year. And I want to commend INTERN
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Speaker 2: Chief Henny for stepping up and putting those programs out,
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Speaker 2: and actually anybody that was involved in putting the emphasis
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Speaker 2: on police rather than just community programs.
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Speaker 1: Well, going back to your point about holding younger children
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Speaker 1: accountable for their crimes before they make it to big
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Speaker 1: boycourt and find out what real consequences might be, I
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Speaker 1: guess I was a little concerned about Henny's comments about
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Speaker 1: the giving tickets out or citations for violations of the curfew,
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Speaker 1: which kicks in at eleven pm. So if they're not
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Speaker 1: going to issue citations and just give them a ride home,
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Speaker 1: basically boiled down my comments with my perception of his comments,
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Speaker 1: is that going to do anything. If they're not going
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Speaker 1: to hand out tickets regularly.
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Speaker 2: Well, in my mind, what it depends on is, Okay,
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Speaker 2: if they accept the ride home, that's great. What if
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Speaker 2: they don't accept the ride home. What if they resist
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Speaker 2: the force attacked with the curfew, then what happens? Because
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Speaker 2: I think what they were addressing was the first case,
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Speaker 2: the best case scenario is, hey, they're taking kids home,
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Speaker 2: they're getting them off the streets. But what you have
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Speaker 2: to address is what happens when you meet resistance, and
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Speaker 2: that's going to be the basically the deciding factor whether
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Speaker 2: this curfew actually works, because if they accept the ride home,
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Speaker 2: if they get off the streets, that's fine. But if
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Speaker 2: they don't get off the street, if they resist any
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Speaker 2: direction that's happening from the officers. What happened last year
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Speaker 2: was there was nothing done. It was really just like, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna make this curfew, but there's no consequence, right,
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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what the police need to focus on,
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Speaker 2: is having actual consequences to disobeying the curfew.
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Speaker 1: Well, the elephant in the room goes back to our
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Speaker 1: judicial race comments about juvenile court. If they enforce it
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Speaker 1: and they engage in, you know, actively involving and you know,
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Speaker 1: citing the children or forcing them to deal with the
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Speaker 1: juvenile courts. That's the only thing the police can do.
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Speaker 1: Then it's left in the hands of a juvenile judge
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Speaker 1: who slap them on hand let them out the door again,
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Speaker 1: the revolving door of justice. So that it kind of
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Speaker 1: seems to be that a good proposal that doesn't have
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Speaker 1: the teeth on the back end.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, one thing that they did mention, So I'm
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Speaker 2: trying to be optimistic, right, hopefully hopefully that their words
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Speaker 2: actually carry weight and they're actually going to do what
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Speaker 2: they say this time around. Who knows, but they did
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Speaker 2: mention that the police we're going to actively pursue relation
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Speaker 2: or not relationships, but conversations with the judicial system to
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Speaker 2: make sure that these low bonds and that these low
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Speaker 2: accountability convictions actually are getting dealt with. So I'm going
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Speaker 2: to try to take them at their word and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: if they're because this is stuff we were all pushing
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Speaker 2: for last year. So if they were actually going to say, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're going to address these issues, We're going to work
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Speaker 2: with the judicial system make sure that the low bonds
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Speaker 2: are not the deciding factor in getting the criminals off
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Speaker 2: on the streets again, Let's hope for the best and
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Speaker 2: let's hope for a safe or safer summer in Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: Corey Bumer was bringing back talking about this lawsuit that
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Speaker 1: was filed by former tenants of the Preservation of Affordable
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Speaker 1: Housing program about some buildings and over the Rhine that
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Speaker 1: were found to have some really toxic chemicals in the
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman stick around, will be right back with him
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Speaker 1: after these brief words.
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Speaker 2: The talk station.
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Speaker 1: Coming up, next segment, Jack windsor fingers cross primary results
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Speaker 1: have Corey Bowman on the program, a former mayoral candidate,
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Speaker 1: business owner and resident of the city of Cincinnati, but
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Speaker 1: he does not live in a Preservation of Affordable Housing unit. Thankfully,
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Speaker 1: the largest low income housing providers in the city. Apparently
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Speaker 1: now they're subject to a lawsuit. They found some really
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Speaker 1: hazardous material chloroform and benzene, which some are claiming led
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Speaker 1: to the sudden infant death of two children that were
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Speaker 1: living in the Preservation affordable housing units apparently a WCPO
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Speaker 1: and props to them. They've been reporting on this and
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Speaker 1: I got that article that you forwarded along to me,
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Speaker 1: and thanks for bringing that. One of my attention rats
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Speaker 1: sewage build ups, mold, no hot water, inoperable stoves. They
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Speaker 1: checked out Poe's more than nine hundred residential units that
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Speaker 1: have been finding these problems that have been existing for
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Speaker 1: a long time. This is I mean chloroform and benzene,
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Speaker 1: that's just toxic. Corey Bowmen, your reaction to this revelation, Well.
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Speaker 2: For us, unfortunately, it's not a new revelation. For the
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Speaker 2: last several years, being a pastor in the West End,
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Speaker 2: we've done many outreaches in the area where the attendees
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Speaker 2: are tenants of OHA and Preservation of affordable housing. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's a couple other different organizations in the city to
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Speaker 2: operate the same way. Unfortunately, a lot of these tenants
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Speaker 2: face some very bad circumstances when it comes to their
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Speaker 2: conditions for their housing. Primarily, what we've heard is mold.
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Speaker 2: We've heard the lack of HVAC he and ac in
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Speaker 2: during the seasons, and this is something that when they
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Speaker 2: actually complain to the authority. They get told either want
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Speaker 2: to just wipe up the mold, spray paint over it,
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Speaker 2: or they get threatened to be evicted because there's such
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Speaker 2: a waiting list for housing in the city that they
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Speaker 2: don't care about taking care of their tenants. Now, keep
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Speaker 2: in mind, this is organization specifically received a million dollar
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Speaker 2: grant last year from our city manager to be able
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Speaker 2: to improve the lives of tenants. And this is something
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Speaker 2: that's not only from the past, like the lawsuits coming
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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty three. These are conditions that are currently
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Speaker 2: happening right now. And I can attest to that from
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Speaker 2: specific people I've talked to on the streets that are
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Speaker 2: in the West.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know what I keep hearing from all
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Speaker 1: the climate change advocacy. We need to get rid of
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Speaker 1: gasoline and everything because of the pollution it causes asthma.
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Speaker 1: It's going to cause your asthma problems. How about the
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Speaker 1: black mold. It is documentary. You can extrapolate make up
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Speaker 1: whatever thing you want about whether or not pollution in
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Speaker 1: the air generally does causes asthma. Of course it probably does,
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Speaker 1: but black mold is noted for its causing sneezing and
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Speaker 1: coughing and irritation as well as a worsening asthma's symptoms.
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Speaker 1: So that will be a great start. Plus it would
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Speaker 1: create a habitable living environment if you got rid of
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Speaker 1: the black mold.
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Speaker 2: No, it's so true. You got to understand too that
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Speaker 2: these organizations are well funded. Yeah, these aren't like just
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Speaker 2: struggling landlords. Do you know that, hud. I mean President
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Speaker 2: Trump tried to get it down to thirty two million,
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Speaker 2: and Congress are thirty two billion, and Congress still approved
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Speaker 2: it for seventy two billion dollars for last year for
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Speaker 2: the f all this funding is coming through not only that,
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Speaker 2: but through the city budget as well. These are, for
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Speaker 2: lack of better words, it's slum lawns. These are people
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Speaker 2: that pocket money that do not take care of the
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Speaker 2: tenants that they have with the proper funding that we
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Speaker 2: know they receive. And this is a major issue. We're
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Speaker 2: seeing this with it with organizations like CMHA, We're seeing
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Speaker 2: this with many organizations in the city. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: here to just bash and just say hey, not present
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Speaker 2: a solution. All I'm saying is you're well funded, your
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Speaker 2: tenants are struggling. You know, Yes, the affordable housing situation.
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Speaker 2: We got to give people a leg up to be
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Speaker 2: able to get out of poverty. We don't want them
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Speaker 2: to just stay in this type of housing for the
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Speaker 2: rest of their life. At the same time, if they're
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Speaker 2: accepting these benefits, and if the organizations are being as
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Speaker 2: well funded as they are, I would expect ten times
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Speaker 2: better maintenance of their buildings and ten times better care of.
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Speaker 1: Their tenants, no doubt about it. And miss wildly curious
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Speaker 1: us what the salaries are for those that are responsible
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Speaker 1: for running the preservation of affordable housing just a while
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, if I was a betting man, Corey Bowman,
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Speaker 1: that's where my money would be. Corey Bowman, I appreciate
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Speaker 1: your tireless efforts on behalf of all residents of the
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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati and bringing this these issues to our
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Speaker 1: attention here on the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. You're
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Speaker 1: always welcome and I hope you have a wonderful Mother's
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Speaker 1: Day weekend. And congratulations again for well out kicking your
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Speaker 1: coverage when you got married my friend, have a great
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Speaker 1: day on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. You guys have a great day.
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Speaker 1: Thank you too. We'll talk real soon. Corey Bowman stick
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